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Street Light Interference: Not the SLIders You'd Eat!

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Street Light Interference: Not the SLIders You'd Eat!

Thursday, 9th May 2024
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0:10

Welcome to the Oddity Shop , where

0:13

the bizarre is always on sale

0:15

. Hello

0:29

everybody , welcome back to the Oddity

0:31

Shop podcast . I am one of your

0:33

two lovely curators here

0:35

, zach , sitting here with the other one , kara

0:38

, freaking . Whatever

0:40

, I'm always going to call you by the wrong last

0:42

name You're just Kara . What's up ?

0:44

just Kara , I'm always going to call you by the wrong

0:46

last name . You're just Kara . What's up ? Just Kara

0:48

? Well , you know , life is life and you and I are going through

0:50

it , but we are pushing through . You

0:52

are gaslighting yourself into being happy

0:55

.

0:58

I think you just need to gaslight yourself every day . I feel like gaslighting

1:00

yourself is just another way of saying that

1:02

.

1:02

Yeah , but it sounds . Maybe I think it sounds bad

1:04

. So that's where we

1:06

are . It's a gloomy , rainy

1:09

yucky , cold Thursday

1:11

.

1:11

It might be a gloomy , rainy , yucky , cold

1:13

Thursday , but this , this is the Pottery

1:16

.

1:17

It is a .

1:17

Pottery Pottery Shot podcast where we tell

1:19

you creepy , odd , weird , strange stories from around the world

1:21

.

1:28

And I feel like gloomy weather is kind of perfect for us . It actually is , but I have my blind shut so

1:30

I can't like look at it , because that would be like nice to have like that ambience . But do you want

1:32

to tell everybody what we actually committed to and we're actually doing

1:35

on saturday ?

1:37

yes , I think we've talked about it a little bit , but we're finally

1:39

going to the eloise asylumdown

1:42

where we're going to spend 12 hours

1:44

locked inside hanging out with ghosts

1:47

. I'm super excited .

1:48

I am too . I'm not even afraid or

1:50

nervous or anything . Do you know what I'm so

1:53

worried about ?

1:54

What are you so worried about ?

1:55

Once I get tired and I want to go to bed , how

1:57

mean I might be to you .

1:59

Well then , I'll just put you to sleep in your car

2:01

and I'm going to keep having fun because

2:07

if you start being mean to me , I will walk away .

2:08

No , but you know how you and I both get like when we're just done with something and we just get like

2:10

with each other , which is totally normal and we've accepted it . I just feel like that

2:12

might happen because we're going to be like tired , but

2:14

I'm hoping that we're just amped up and

2:16

like we're having such a great time that we don't ever feel

2:18

tired .

2:27

But six to us , we can just go . We'll

2:29

just go take a nap .

2:30

This is true . This is true , I'm acting .

2:32

It's going to be really dark in there . We could just find a

2:34

dark room . I'll bring a couple sleeping

2:36

beds , dude , I want to talk about that .

2:37

Should we just bring blankets ? We

2:40

would be the only ones , just like . You know what y'all

2:42

. We got to take just a little power . Now everyone's going to

2:44

be like what is wrong with you ?

2:45

Everyone else leaves at six in the morning and they just can't find

2:47

us because we're past the fuck out .

2:50

No , but I'm like super excited .

2:52

I am too . What else has been

2:54

going on in your life ?

2:55

Nothing . That's my excitement . That's why I brought

2:58

it up .

2:59

I got a trip .

3:05

I tripped home , tripped home . Oh , my god , I already can't speak .

3:06

Trip home to my parents house , oh , I thought you were gonna say a trip plan with julia . Sorry , no , you just

3:08

don't let me finish my sentences . Uh , so it was nice to hang out with

3:10

them and have a few days where I was just chilling

3:12

, yes , uh , but that's , that's about

3:15

it .

3:15

It's been a an uneventful start

3:17

to the year yeah , but I mean it's like winter and now it's

3:20

like kind of getting into spring , so it's

3:22

expected that's true so bring

3:24

on the good weather .

3:25

All right , we're rambling . Whoa

3:27

, what's your question today ? What's my favorite

3:30

band I feel like I should just be able to rail this

3:32

right out but now that I'm

3:34

having to think about it like it should just

3:36

like flow um the use

3:38

. Thank you , good job . What's ?

3:40

your favorite band probably streetlight manifesto

3:42

. Okay , so it's streetlight manifestoesto

3:44

. We're talking about Streetlight Manifesto

3:46

.

3:47

Wait what .

3:47

No , we're not . We're talking about Streetlight

3:50

Interference Phenomenon

3:52

, and every time I kept typing in Streetlight

3:54

. I kept typing in Streetlight Manifesto because

3:57

I was just thinking about you .

3:58

Because they're amazing . They know they are amazing

4:00

. First of all , anybody who has never listened

4:02

to the ska greatness that is Streetlight Manifesto

4:05

, pause this right now . Play the Kisbe Knights album

4:07

. You will immediately become a fan .

4:09

I did used to be one of my favorite bands in high school , but

4:11

I honestly don't remember .

4:12

I think that's one of the first things you and me ever bonded over

4:14

. It was .

4:16

Anyway , so we're talking about

4:18

Streetlight Interference

4:20

Phenomenon . Have you heard

4:22

of it ? I

4:27

have not Okay , so can we just call it SIF for short ? No , because it already has an abbreviation

4:29

. So shut up . So straight

4:31

to Wikipedia we go . Street

4:33

light interference phenomenon is

4:36

the claimed ability of individuals

4:38

to turn street lights or outside building

4:40

security lights on or off when passing

4:43

near them . Believers in streetlight

4:45

interference , sli , allege

4:48

that they experience it on a

4:50

regular basis with specific lamps

4:52

and streetlights , and more frequently than

4:54

chance would explain . However

4:56

, sli has never been demonstrated

4:59

to occur in scientific experiments

5:01

and those who claim the ability have

5:03

been found to be unable to reproduce

5:06

the effect on demand , and this is also

5:08

often referred to as high voltage

5:11

syndrome or HVS . So

5:13

I don't know if you've ever heard of the high voltage syndrome

5:15

.

5:15

I've never heard of any of this and I'm really excited

5:17

. Okay , cool . Also , in case anybody

5:20

from Wikipedia ever

5:22

pays attention to us , you should sponsor us

5:24

already , because we shout you out every

5:26

freaking episode . Yeah

5:29

, might not be shouted out loud , but it's always in the

5:31

show notes . Sponsor us , wiki .

5:33

Yeah , do that , okay

5:35

. Okay , so

5:38

the term streetlight interference was coined

5:40

by the proponent

5:42

of paranormal phenomena author

5:44

, hillary Evans . And Hillary

5:46

Evans was a British pictorial archivist

5:49

, author and researcher into UFOs

5:51

and other paranormal phenomena

5:53

.

5:54

We talked about her in the African school

5:56

episode .

5:57

Yeah , so she did write a book on this called

5:59

the SLI Effect , and I was going to read

6:01

it . However , it was $75 . And

6:03

I just wasn't into that price point

6:05

oh , that's steep .

6:06

That's why I was like oh , no

6:08

, but but now I'm like , damn , I

6:10

can't get that for a credit on audible .

6:12

I know , and I kind of , but I really wanted to read it . But

6:14

then I was like it's probably gonna be one of those books where only

6:17

like 20 of it would make

6:19

it to my brain yeah , so what's 20%

6:21

of 75 ?

6:22

Mass . Yeah , that's how much I would

6:24

pay for it .

6:26

Moving on , perfect

6:28

Okay . So you might be like okay

6:31

, what's the big deal ? Lights turn on when you pass

6:33

, like that's convenient . Like when

6:35

I walk into my garage , the motion

6:37

light goes on , so like I never have to turn

6:39

the light on , I just walk right through the garage , the light

6:41

comes on and it's just so convenient

6:44

. Like I , that was throughout my house , that's

6:46

convenient .

6:47

You think you're fancy huh yeah

6:50

. It is convenient it is Okay

6:52

.

6:53

Well , people who report

6:55

to have experienced SLI have noticed

6:57

instances where

6:59

light bulbs frequently burn

7:02

out or flicker when trying to turn them on

7:04

or off . Lamps turn on and off

7:06

without being touched . Children's electronic

7:09

toys start by themselves . Volume

7:11

levels change on TVs , phones , radios

7:14

or anything that has volume levels . Watches

7:17

stop working or lose time . Credit

7:19

cards and other magnetically

7:22

encoded cards become damaged or

7:24

erased when they are in their possession

7:26

. Streetlights turn off and on as

7:28

you pass Cars or motorbikes

7:31

having difficulty

7:33

starting or stalling when they're

7:35

near them . Computers and phones

7:38

malfunctioning or crashing frequently .

7:40

So everything electronic . TV channels

7:42

changing or turning off randomly , printers

7:46

malfunctioning or printing out random symbols or characters

7:49

, which that's really creepy to me

7:51

that would freak me I don't know why

7:53

that part creeps me out more than anything

7:55

okay , I did this to somebody though what

7:58

I had stayed at a friend's

8:00

house sorry chelsea and

8:03

chelsea stole the code to her

8:05

uh wireless printer , so

8:07

I just kept printing dicks like

8:09

coloring sheets oh like

8:12

yeah , they're like penis coloring

8:14

sheets and but they just

8:16

kept coming and she had put it together

8:19

and I sent one more , I think like after like

8:21

mom had just gotten there or something

8:23

. She changed the codes after

8:25

that , which rightfully so .

8:27

Wait . So she did figure out . She put it together that it was you

8:29

.

8:29

Oh yeah , yeah , I think she knew pretty much from

8:31

Dick one .

8:33

I think I might have already told a story on here , but

8:36

it goes along with what you just said . When

8:45

we were in high school one of my friends well , she passed away now , but one of my friends , her

8:47

neighbor . He'd always kind of mess with us . So one day we had her mom when he got home

8:49

from work , like kind of stall him and like come on over . I

8:51

want to like show you something . Did I tell you this ? Or

8:54

you're just saying oh , so we snuck

8:56

into his house and programmed

8:58

our remote control to his TV .

9:00

Oh , that's great .

9:01

So then when he went back back home , we were literally hiding

9:03

in the fucking I was I remember being on top of

9:06

the fence like looking into his like living

9:08

room window and like , uh , my other two

9:10

friends were like in the bushes and we

9:12

kept . He was watching some sort of big game

9:14

and we kept changing the channel

9:16

. And it was the funniest thing because you would just hear

9:18

him like motherfucker , what

9:20

the goddamn shit . And then , oh my god , it

9:22

was so funny . Then we like we kept changing it , that's

9:25

literally the opening scene of the movie poltergeist

9:27

.

9:30

He's watching a sports game , but it's just . Their houses

9:32

are too close and , like you know , the

9:34

80s or 70s or whatever it's like the

9:36

, the remotes are just all the same well , yeah

9:39

, that's what we did , and then we would just like blast

9:41

the volume .

9:42

It was so fucking funny . And then

9:44

he did figure it out because he heard us

9:46

giggling in the fucking bushes . I

9:48

fell over the fence , so anyway . But

9:50

the printer with the random symbols , I don't know why , that just like

9:52

creeps me out . So fridges or

9:54

other household appliances malfunction , electronic

9:57

locks or security systems malfunctioning

10:00

or failing to work in their presence

10:02

, and light bulbs consistently

10:04

blow up which I had a light bulb blow

10:06

up in that apartment that was kind of haunted , that freaked

10:09

me out Cell phone calls

10:11

dropping or having like poor

10:13

signal strength , like , especially when they're near

10:15

that device . So it's kind of scary

10:18

and dangerous like the

10:20

things that transpire . Can

10:22

you imagine that's your life ? Can we take a break ? Why ? Why did you did ?

10:24

you imagine that's your life . Can we take a break ? Why ? Why did you ? Did

10:26

you write this episode on purpose ? What ? Do you

10:28

mean , I didn't know this was a thing . This literally happens

10:30

to me every day . Yeah , so the

10:33

bathroom lights right ?

10:34

Yeah , we've talked about the light , you and I

10:36

.

10:37

There's like four or five street lights that every

10:39

time I go past them . Two

10:48

of them are by my parents house .

10:48

They always turn . Are you keeping this in the episode ?

10:49

because this is great . No , no , I'm cutting this all out . I need to know where , because I didn't know this

10:51

was a thing . Keep this in dude every time . You and me have had a phone call for the years yes

10:54

that's so . Keep all this in

10:56

. I have the keyless entry to my car . That

10:58

never worked .

10:59

I totally forgot about that . Oh my god , this

11:01

is how many times has this computer crashed

11:03

on me ? You need to keep all of this in , because

11:05

this is great .

11:06

All right , well , apparently now we're just learning about

11:08

zach , so I'll continue on which is why I've

11:10

been like okay , like what is , is

11:13

this like a real thing ? I honestly thought

11:15

, like those . I thought some street lights were

11:17

just on a thing , that they turned out when , or turned off

11:19

when you walked .

11:19

This is so funny , I totally is that

11:21

not a thing ? No , I totally forgot that

11:24

these things happen to you because I guess I

11:26

have , like you , don't ? You don't talk about them like

11:28

in a row where I would put it all together

11:30

until you just said it now .

11:32

I didn't even know it was a thing until you were saying

11:35

that it's a thing . Oh , my God All these things

11:37

happen to me all the time .

11:38

Y'all are hearing this .

11:45

Well , kind of live that . This is Zach . This is crazy .

11:46

I love this . Okay , Well , you better have some answers at the end of this one . Okay , let's get

11:48

. Ooh God , I'm so dumb because I know all these

11:50

things happened to you . I just never thought about it

11:52

this way .

11:55

I never put them all together as one thing , until you're

11:57

going down the list and I'm like , okay , yep

11:59

.

11:59

Check , check , check . That's me , that's

12:01

me , that's me Okay .

12:04

This is weird Okay .

12:05

So anyway , go

12:09

on , please my eyes are watering so

12:11

bad I can't see . Hold

12:13

on , I need a drink . Keep all

12:15

this in . It's hilarious , okay , okay

12:18

. In 1846

12:20

, poor 14-year-old Angelique

12:22

Cotton was weaving gloves

12:25

with some other girls , so that was their job . You know they

12:27

were weaving silk gloves . I don't know

12:29

I'm doing this motion to you , because that's not weaving I

12:31

was going with it so the frame that she was using

12:33

, like the glove sits on or whatever

12:35

, began to jump about and

12:38

retreated from her grasp like

12:40

repelling magnets . So all these girls

12:42

like what the weird fuck ? Like holy shit

12:44

, can you imagine that'd be so strange . So this is 1846

12:47

, so I bet you can guess what happened

12:50

after that witch witch witch

12:52

witch . Yes , she was

12:54

accused of witchcraft . She was dubbed

12:56

the electric person

12:58

and , without going in too

13:00

much to her , um so like kind of like

13:02

a long story short , but her family used

13:04

this kind of as a marketing scheme and made

13:07

their money off of like the freak

13:09

show that she was , which is so sad , but

13:11

like tables and chairs would fly

13:13

away from her when and she'd be like ejected

13:15

by like from the seat , like if she sat on

13:17

, were they metal , no , just like

13:20

things would just repel from her . It's so weird

13:22

. That is really weird they started doing

13:24

a ton of experiments on this poor girl

13:26

. She was like in a lab for a really long

13:28

time with all these different like doctors

13:30

and professors trying to do all these experiments on

13:32

her , which had to be so scary first off

13:35

because like you're like what is going on with me , and

13:37

then you've got all these people poking and prying into your

13:39

life and these are 1800s doctors

13:41

, exactly so you know they're like bloodletting

13:44

and like putting a leech on

13:46

you and giving you probably cocaine

13:48

, god , all kinds of shit . So the

13:50

left side of her seemed to run

13:52

hot and be the cause of

13:54

most of the activity , if not all of it

13:57

. So like her left side just seemed to be like

13:59

radiate more heat from that side and

14:05

like her left hand or whatever like motions of her left side

14:07

of the body would be like more active to like repel and retract like all that crazy

14:09

crap . Lafautaine was a doctor in the lab

14:11

and he stated when she brought

14:13

her wrist near a lighted

14:16

candle , the flame bent over

14:18

horizontally as if continually

14:20

blown upon . So like you know , you

14:22

can vision that when you blow a candle and it kind of like

14:24

bends . So when she put her left hand over

14:26

it it just kind of like bent away from her

14:28

continuously .

14:30

Isn't that wild , so weird , is it like

14:32

a magnetic field thing ? I ?

14:34

don't know . So this phenomenon

14:36

lasted for 10 weeks for this poor child

14:39

and then it just stopped . How weird

14:41

is . One day you're just knitting and shit

14:43

starts flying away from you and then like that

14:46

or like some sort of electrical like . I

14:48

mean , our bodies are electrified . You

14:50

know , I wonder it's electrified . Okay

14:53

, I got you . They're

14:55

multiplying .

14:56

I knew you couldn't not say the next words .

14:58

Okay , I can't . In 1976

15:01

, a 12-year-old , vivian Jones

15:04

of Bristol found that he could

15:06

illuminate light bulbs by touching

15:08

them , and this was discovered after breaking

15:11

his arm .

15:12

I've heard of this kid .

15:13

Oh really .

15:13

Yeah .

15:14

Televisions and lights would also flicker

15:16

in his presence , and his hair just stood up straight

15:19

on his head .

15:21

It's just straight up . I have seen

15:23

pictures of this .

15:24

But how weird that you just break

15:26

your arm and then all of a sudden , like you

15:28

can , touch a light bulb and it lights up .

15:30

It makes no sense .

15:32

It doesn't .

15:32

That'd be super convenient though .

15:34

That part would , because then you could just hold a light bulb , you don't

15:36

need batteries for a flashlight or you don't need to light

15:38

a match for a little torch , whatever

15:40

they're using in 83 , 1983

15:44

. Wait

15:54

, little torch , whatever they're using in 83 1983

15:56

wait flashlights .

15:57

Oh my god , keep that in back of the dog . This should just be a raw episode .

15:58

Don't even edit , fuck it , you guys can see the real oh god believe

16:01

, believe it .

16:02

The other episodes you have listened to are somewhat

16:05

polished .

16:06

It's worse okay

16:09

, wait , to be fair , whatever

16:12

, I don't care . So , um

16:14

, no , he was in 76

16:17

. Still , it doesn't matter . Okay

16:19

, I'm , I'm dead , all right , um , in 1893

16:23

, jacqueline prriceman of

16:25

Manchester . I love it when

16:27

they give of the place

16:29

.

16:29

Right Like she's some hot to do person

16:32

.

16:32

Right . She claimed to have blown up 30

16:34

vacuum cleaners , five irons

16:37

and two washing machines

16:39

.

16:39

Girl did chores .

16:41

She tried . I don't think she got them done , probably

16:44

not . And then she also caused television

16:47

to change channels . Mandy

16:49

Broadman , which I don't know of where

16:52

because it didn't say , but she got through

16:54

six vacuum cleaners and

16:56

six TVs in three years . So

16:58

not 30 vacuums , but still six

17:00

. Vacuum cleaners are expensive . So that

17:02

really fucking sucks , because I bet you they

17:04

don't , unless you could use , like , the warranty

17:06

If they completely blow up , though

17:09

. No , well , could you , because I'd

17:11

be like I don't know what's wrong with this vacuum .

17:12

I have never used a warranty in my life . I

17:15

have no idea .

17:15

Here's what I would do if I were these two , I would

17:17

for sure buy different vacuums

17:19

every time because I wouldn't want to buy the same manufacturer

17:22

, because then they're probably like what are you doing to these

17:24

vacuums ? You

17:53

know , like if you keep , it's going to last that long ?

17:54

anyway , that's a good idea . You're so smart . Okay , so for her .

17:55

her friend said that she always gave them a shock when touching them . Now we're saying it's not so

17:57

convenient , like it's not just lights are turning on . You know , right , you're just frying everything you

17:59

touch . So what's going ?

18:00

on here . I would like to know . Well , we don't know , damn it . So just to give a little more credence to

18:02

why I'm so shocked my family literally

18:04

so they called it the christmas

18:06

curse . If my parents bought me anything

18:08

electronic for christmas , the

18:11

receipt would be in it and we would

18:13

be there , the person in the return aisle

18:15

, the day after Christmas , because it never worked .

18:17

I didn't know that part .

18:18

Three PlayStation 2s .

18:20

This is so crazy Okay

18:22

.

18:22

This is really weird , so I'm mad that

18:24

you don't have answers , okay , so not so open-minded folk would say that the light

18:26

flickering is a coincidence right .

18:27

Also open-minded folk would say that the light flickering

18:30

is a coincidence right . Or

18:32

, like you said , the lights

18:34

coming on as you walk under it is like motion

18:37

activated or

18:39

you thought it was just like I straight up thought it was .

18:41

I'm actually really interested in this now

18:43

.

18:45

Okay . So Mark I think

18:47

it's Pilkington wrote an article

18:49

in the Guardian and this is what he said

18:51

Okay , okay . Also , I can't

18:53

remember if I said this earlier , I think I might've skipped

18:56

over it . So they're called

18:58

so S-L-I is the abbreviation

19:00

of it . So if you

19:02

have this , you're called a slider

19:04

, but it's capital S , capital

19:07

, l , capital I lowercase

19:09

D-E-R-S , so you're a slider Lowercase

19:11

der .

19:11

Der , so you're a slider .

19:14

So he says . Mark says the majority

19:16

of sliding incidents are easily

19:18

explained when common sodium

19:20

and mercury vapor streetlights

19:23

wear out , they cycle

19:25

, flicker on and off owing

19:27

either to changes in the

19:29

consistency of the vapor inside them or

19:31

to aging electrodes .

19:33

Electrodes- Makes sense .

19:35

At other times , the light-sensitive cells

19:37

that operate them can develop glitches

19:39

leading to the whole banks of

19:41

the light behaving peculiarly . On

19:43

witnessing this , our pattern-detecting

19:45

minds make the connection and assume

19:48

that we have interfered with the light

19:50

.

19:51

Okay .

19:51

No , no , I'm not going on

19:53

with that . No . So how

19:55

about something to do

19:57

with the electronic impulses

20:00

of the brain ?

20:00

Ooh are you saying , my brain is extra

20:02

electric .

20:03

Yeah , maybe Stephen Wagner

20:05

wrote all of our thoughts

20:07

and movements are the result of electrical

20:10

impulses that the brain generates . At

20:18

present , it is known that these measurable impulses only have an effect

20:20

on the individual's body . But is it possible that they could have an effect outside

20:22

the body , a kind of remote

20:25

control ? So now I like

20:27

where we're going .

20:28

Okay , I have a lot of racing thoughts if

20:30

that equals energy where we're going . Okay , I have a lot of racing thoughts

20:32

if that equals energy .

20:33

Well , I just think that , like I

20:35

like that better than

20:37

coincidence okay coincidence

20:40

is just such a cop-out explanation like I understand

20:42

why no , I think that brains do

20:44

look for patterns , but we do . But

20:47

when anyone says enough weird shit

20:49

yeah , and in anything I don't know . Like I

20:51

can't think of another example . But if anyone

20:53

were to be like oh , it's a coincidence , I'm just like

20:55

it's because your brain is puny

20:57

and it can't comprehend anything

21:00

else Right , or just think outside of the box

21:02

.

21:02

Puny little brain .

21:05

Okay , back to Wiki .

21:06

But not our listeners , because they believe you guys have huge

21:09

brains listeners

21:14

because they believe you guys have huge .

21:15

So back to wiki we go . So okay , wiki says where some

21:18

proponent proponents huge brains , my puny little

21:20

brain , it's try . At least my

21:22

puny brain tries , okay , that's fair

21:24

. Some proponents believe static

21:26

electricity or some kind

21:28

of energy emitted by

21:31

the human body is responsible

21:33

for SLI . Others claim the

21:35

alleged phenomenon is caused by individuals

21:37

having psychic or psychokinetic

21:40

ability . So now I'm on board

21:43

Research at Princeton

21:45

Engineering , anomalies Research

21:47

which is PAIR for short

21:49

, but I don't think they operate anymore which

21:51

is PAIR for short , but I don't think they

21:53

operate anymore . So at their lab they

21:59

suggested that the subconscious can indeed affect electronic

22:01

devices . This was based on the study of ESP and telekinesis that they

22:03

did . So it wasn't directly SLI , but it was a research

22:05

that they did around that stuff . So

22:08

tell me now if this is also

22:10

you . Emotions seem

22:13

to play a part in sliders . So

22:15

SLI effect isn't

22:17

conscious , but sliders seem

22:20

to pinpoint some of their episodes

22:22

, if you will , and times when they're highly

22:24

emotional . So Slider Debbie

22:27

Wolf told CNN . Cnn when

22:29

it happens is when I'm stressed

22:32

about something , not manically

22:34

stressed , just when I'm really

22:36

mulching something over , really chewing

22:38

something over in my head , and then

22:40

it happens .

22:41

Okay , well , I mean , if we think about like

22:43

the kid on Christmas , right , my electronics

22:45

weren't working , probably because I was so overly

22:47

excited , like I was just frightened .

22:49

I was an excited Christmas .

22:50

Kid you , freaking would be oh yeah , your emotion was an excited christmas kid

22:52

you freaking would be . Oh yeah

22:54

, I was I was just see you , I was

22:56

big on christmas I mean

22:58

I was too .

22:59

But like when you're super stressed out

23:02

, do you feel like ?

23:03

I feel like that's when , like my computer stopped

23:05

working electronics . But I always just thought like it's

23:07

. You know , it's like , uh , when your belt loop

23:09

gets stuck on the , the or the

23:11

drawer .

23:12

Oh God damn .

23:13

When you're already having a bad day . I always just thought

23:15

it was a coincidence , but hey .

23:16

You puny mind Okay

23:21

.

23:23

Listen , watch out , I might have .

23:25

ESP .

23:26

I'm going to bend all your yeah , I'm going to bend all your spoons

23:28

from here .

23:29

I hope you become Matilda .

23:30

Oh , me too .

23:31

Okay , so well

23:33

, I just want to- .

23:34

Every time I think of Matilda , I think of that song On my Way .

23:36

I know . But also , wouldn't it be great to

23:38

be adopted by Miss Honey ? Not that we don't

23:40

like our parents , but like Miss Honey Ugh

23:42

.

23:43

Loved her as long as I never got put in the chokie

23:45

Okay .

23:47

Okay , I

23:54

think , and so do some other open-minded peeps , that this is possibly

23:56

a psychic event that is just beginning to be recognized for

23:58

a psychic thing . You

24:00

know what I mean .

24:01

Yeah , okay . I think , though , when

24:04

we break it down that way and I'm sorry if I'm

24:06

getting ahead of you , right it's like a

24:08

psychic event , isn't what you're

24:10

thinking in your head , like I'm having a that's raven

24:12

moment looking into the future . I

24:15

feel like psychic events are more just like

24:17

, at least in this sense , a high , strange

24:20

event thing that's like outside

24:22

of your control but still created by the body , almost

24:24

like a poltergeist being created by like psychic

24:26

energy , but it's not always like yeah , that's

24:28

like singing to the future and talking to ghosts

24:30

.

24:31

Like an agrigore-ish type of thing

24:33

. Yeah , um , okay

24:35

, so

24:37

sorry , I just lost my thought because I was getting

24:39

goose bumpy . Hillary Evans told

24:42

CNN . It's quite obvious

24:44

from the letters I get that these people

24:46

are perfectly healthy , normal

24:48

people . It's just that they have some

24:50

kind of ability , just a gift they've

24:52

got . It may not be a gift they

24:54

would like to have . When I

24:56

was like kind of doing this research and stuff

24:58

and thinking about it , kind of like the way you were , like I

25:01

don't know , it really gave me in

25:03

a different like , in a different way but

25:05

in the same way like Satori and Cody

25:07

vibes yeah , like something about their

25:09

bodies , bring on the phenomena

25:12

. That that they have it kind

25:14

of like made me think , yeah

25:17

, it's just weird . Like how does ?

25:18

somebody . There's more to like this , like

25:20

psychic expenditure of energy

25:22

.

25:22

That's just like your typical table medium

25:24

yeah or parlor tricks yes

25:27

, so here's where

25:29

we can discuss . I gave this time to discuss

25:31

if you have any other thoughts that you may have , or

25:33

if you want to share some of your other , like

25:35

things you can think of about you .

25:37

Okay . So

25:39

I mean , as far as , like the discussion goes

25:41

on , it right Like I think we're kind of onto something

25:43

there where it's an uncontrolled thing

25:46

on your body I don't know if it's psychic doesn't

25:48

feel like the right way , it feels like it's almost

25:50

like Well , I will say Like

25:52

maybe more electric than other

25:54

people , because your entire body runs

25:56

on electrical impulses and everything else , like your

25:58

brain , does . Maybe some are just more like charged

26:01

than others or run at a different , probably

26:03

wrong , voltage .

26:06

I don't know what the term would be .

26:07

I forgot the electronic law . I know Ohm's law comes

26:09

into it , but that all I know what I will

26:11

say .

26:11

Is that the what are , what

26:14

is the ? I was gonna say the paper versions

26:16

, but like the written stuff or like

26:18

, uh , fuck

26:20

, like the quote-unquote , research

26:22

stuff says that it can't be controlled

26:24

. But that's wrong . Some

26:26

people can control it and

26:28

manipulate it in a way . So then it is

26:31

more of like a telekinesis type of

26:33

thing . So I think it just depends on

26:35

your ability , and that is kind

26:37

of like psychics and mediums and things like that

26:39

.

26:39

They all have different abilities and different strength

26:41

levels I guess like that , almost like the esp

26:44

, is the better right that maybe , yeah , I guess maybe

26:46

that would be better than any

26:48

of it .

26:49

But yeah , I totally forgot that all this shit

26:51

happens to you . Now you've got to start .

26:53

Well , I never really put it together until you're

26:55

making the whole list . I'm just like , oh shit

26:57

.

26:57

Yeah , so now it's your homework to start , like

26:59

when things happen , to think about like if you're really

27:01

stressed or like what's happening when it

27:03

happens . Now , I'm really curious .

27:06

All right , I'll keep a little journal for you . What

27:12

lights do it when you drive by ? Do they do it every single time ? It's not so . There's two really old streetlights

27:14

in my parents' neighborhood that always did , and I just always

27:16

kind of assumed they were on some sort of timer .

27:18

Which I mean I probably would too .

27:20

But then so it's happened a couple of

27:22

times in Grand Rapids I know one time a co-worker

27:25

had called me to talk about like some creepy stuff

27:27

that was happening . Of course they called me Right

27:32

and like I always took like the a flickering light as a sign that some sort of spirit thing

27:34

is happening and we wouldn't have talked about . Happens often

27:37

in my bathroom but that's like this time

27:39

the co-worker was talking to me . I'm standing

27:41

outside and the street light kept turning off

27:43

and on and I'm like , oh well

27:45

, this is happening to me now . So it's

27:47

just like it's . It seems to be like

27:49

when it's charged situations or emotional

27:52

or whatever especially like my computer electronics

27:54

they all seem to go at the same time . Yeah

27:56

, it's always when I'm already having a terrible day .

27:58

OK , so yeah , yours is probably more emotion

28:00

based .

28:01

I think so , damn Pisces and

28:03

me and not controlling my emotions .

28:06

Fucking emotions .

28:07

I bury it so deep that I just

28:09

destroy all the electronics

28:11

around me .

28:12

Listen . Now we know what we need to do . Don't bury

28:14

them down . Don't have them . You know what ? Fuck

28:16

, if I knew how to do that . You

28:18

know what ? Go back into the old

28:20

times when boys didn't have feelings

28:23

, they weren't allowed to talk about them .

28:24

Just internalize that shit , and then maybe your electronics

28:26

would work . Toxic masculinity

28:29

will finally save me .

28:35

Don't . Toxic masculinity will finally save

28:37

me don't do that okay .

28:38

So now that we've kind of discussed some thoughts , I have some slider stories

28:40

from sliders . I knew it okay . First of all , though

28:42

, like I really , really really

28:44

want a shitty greasy

28:46

slider burger . I

28:50

want sliders . So bad , I'm so sorry

28:52

.

28:53

All right , are you ready ? Yes , okay

28:55

.

28:55

I'm ready .

28:58

My sister and I both have it . Hers

29:00

is when she is stressed angry

29:02

and really is specific to streetlights

29:05

. Mine can do that too . My

29:07

other symptoms include watches and

29:09

clocks . Batteries die and

29:11

the hands fall off , which that was

29:13

crazy to me . The fucking hands of watches

29:15

and clocks fall off . I've had batteries

29:17

die and the hands fall off watches of

29:20

other people around me wearing them

29:22

. Back in the day , when we had Walkmans

29:25

and CD players that ran on batteries , my

29:27

mom would get so mad at me because batteries

29:30

would go dead on me in hours and

29:32

we were poor . Watches and

29:34

batteries don't seem to Do you remember how expensive

29:37

? batteries used to be . They still are .

29:38

I mean they still are , but they're . I mean I feel

29:41

like they're the exact same price they were 20 years

29:43

ago , which is I guess I don't really remember that , to

29:45

be honest , but I just know they're expensive . Now oh . I do because

29:47

my mom kept reminding me . Well , makes

29:49

sense . Now . My mom always reminds me how

29:51

expensive batteries were , but Denise , putting

29:53

it all , together .

29:54

Denise is going to be listening to this episode and just be like oh

29:56

wow , that happened .

29:57

Denise , I am a slider .

30:00

It's not his fault . Okay

30:03

, watches and batteries don't seem to be

30:05

related to emotions . I also

30:07

had a thankfully brief phase

30:10

where steak knives were

30:12

breaking apart in my hands , just

30:14

snapping in half like the metal

30:16

part . Other odd metal things that shouldn't break have broken

30:19

in my hands , just snapping in half like the metal part . Other odd metal things that shouldn't break have broken in my hands Metal

30:21

faucet turn handles

30:23

, piece of rebar , just

30:25

random , some interference

30:27

with laptops and tablets . But it seems to

30:29

be more related to things I am in physical

30:32

contact with , things like automatic

30:34

sinks and hand dryers and toilets

30:37

. Won't sense that I'm there . I once

30:39

accidentally pulled the door off a van

30:41

. That

30:43

may just be my unusual physical

30:45

strength . Overall , just this

30:47

is I don't understand this , so maybe you will Overall

30:50

just call it the Kvorka

30:52

and it's a stolen from Seinfeld

30:54

and my Kvorka .

30:56

Oh , I was never a Seinfeld fan .

30:58

My Kvorka tends to be electrical

31:00

or metal and that's from Old Times , blue's

31:02

97 . Okay , that one is

31:04

strange to me , because

31:06

it's weird that automatic

31:09

things don't sense it , because I

31:11

would think that they would sense that person

31:13

the instant that they walked into the

31:16

room .

31:17

Yeah , those are usually done by light

31:19

. It might be like instead of the motion

31:21

part failing , the electronic behind

31:23

the motion failing oh , I guess

31:26

.

31:26

Yeah , you're right , I was thinking about the actual

31:28

component oh , yeah , yeah . Yeah , that makes sense

31:30

, because I was thinking oppositely , like if you're

31:32

charged , like it would be , like like the hand

31:34

dryers would just go off as you walk

31:37

in . Right , okay , that makes more sense

31:39

. I wasn't thinking about it , that part . But the

31:41

steak knife got me . Can you freaking

31:43

imagine a steak knife just breaking , like the metal

31:45

part of a steak knife just breaking in your hands ? No

31:47

, what would ? What would you do ?

31:49

you could never have steak I'd pick up the

31:51

steak I'm just going to . I'm

31:53

not gonna not eat the steak but

31:56

like forks .

31:57

But like forks are fine , just not

31:59

the steak knife .

32:00

It's like you know , like tuning forks are flat

32:02

metal . It's just hitting a weird frequency .

32:05

And that's sad . I'm

32:08

sorry . Okay , moving

32:11

on , my experience isn't much

32:13

street lights . I don't tend to go

32:15

out much at night , but most electrical

32:17

things don't like me . I can't wear

32:19

watches . I've had three smartwatches

32:21

this year alone and they've all died after

32:23

a week or so . Did yours ever break ?

32:26

No , no , I just wore a dead watch for

32:28

a year because I never remembered to

32:30

charge it and I felt naked without it . That

32:32

one was 100% on me .

32:34

Yeah , that one was true . Okay

32:39

. So the battery dies , then refuses to charge . I have had several laptops

32:41

. All refuse to open apps or load pages at times and continuously

32:44

go screwy . Mobile phone batteries

32:46

last only hours . Sometimes it's been

32:48

the reason I renew my phone early . The

32:50

batteries stop charging or just can't hold a

32:52

charge very long . My current phone goes

32:54

from 100 to zero in around three

32:56

hours , even if it's not in use . Two

32:59

cars have broken due to monumental

33:02

electrical faults . I unlocked

33:04

my car and the immobilizer instantly

33:06

activated . The mechanics were perplexed

33:09

and couldn't deactivate it , so it never

33:11

started again and it had to be scrapped

33:13

. If I stand near the TV , it

33:15

sometimes switches off , and walking through

33:17

the electronic department in the store once

33:19

caused all the . Is it dab

33:22

radios ? Just dab . What

33:24

is that ? I don't know , caused all the dab

33:26

radios to go static . After

33:28

I'd walk through the aisle they went back to

33:30

normal . The guy in the shop even

33:32

commented that it's a pretty cool superpower

33:34

. If I go into the , they

33:37

actually wrote ha ha after . If I go

33:39

into the garden at night , the motion detector

33:42

on the external light doesn't pick up . However

33:44

, it'll switch on for everyone

33:47

else , including our two very small dogs

33:49

. Light bulbs used to blow up constantly

33:51

, not so much now with energy

33:53

efficient bulbs . My kids always tell

33:55

me not to touch their electronics or I'll

33:58

kill it , and my husband comments that our

34:00

house is a place electronics come to die

34:02

. It's kind of comforting to know I'm not alone

34:04

. I don't really mention it to anyone because

34:06

most people think I'm nuts and

34:09

that's from Fly Long Jumping 1816

34:11

. That's you . Electronics

34:13

go to die .

34:15

Electronics go to die more than

34:17

I've probably had . 10

34:19

reptile heat lamps explode yeah

34:22

, you have . And right now my tv

34:24

just keeps filtering on and off every like

34:26

you know 20 minutes when I'm watching it

34:28

you've been very emotional I've never

34:30

put any of these different things together . That

34:32

at least , like she said , you're not

34:35

alone . All right , I really thought you picked

34:37

this one on purpose for a second . I wish I did

34:39

.

34:39

I really wish I would have put this all together to

34:41

teach me something about myself today okay

34:44

. So I used to do this all the time

34:47

when they still had the high pressure

34:49

sodium lights everywhere , but now that those

34:51

have been all replaced I haven't noticed it at all

34:53

. In the last 13 years or so I

34:55

even took a friend of mine to a randomly selected

34:57

parking lot and

35:00

did it with every light in the parking lot . Let

35:02

me preface , this was off of a thread when people were

35:04

talking about passing the lights . That's why it

35:07

sounds so weird . Too bad , we're poor

35:09

and still had flip phones back then , or I might

35:12

have the best case of proof Another

35:14

time . The radio glitched out while I

35:16

was driving and I got 10 in a row

35:18

on major main roads by my

35:21

hometown . This is so poorly written , I'm

35:23

so sorry . 10 , he means lights

35:25

in a row on . Are they major

35:27

main road in which hometowns ? While

35:30

talking about it with friends which were skeptical

35:32

on its epic timing , the only

35:34

thing I noticed that changed .

35:36

So is he saying like he hit on the green , okay . So what he's saying ? He hit on the green , okay . So

35:38

what he's ?

35:38

saying is I and I edited this

35:41

. If you can believe that or not , what he's

35:43

saying is that he used to just purposely

35:45

drive by all these lights and watch them go on and

35:47

off as he drove by Gotcha . But then

35:49

he's saying that he went to a randomly

35:51

selected parking lot he's never been to and showed

35:53

, proved to his friend that it kept happening . And

35:56

then on the way home on the highway

35:58

, every light that they hit did it

36:00

like turned off so and then the radio

36:02

also glitched while they were doing that . Okay , so

36:05

this is this was really funny

36:07

. This is the only reason I put it in here , even though

36:09

it's like poorly written . The only

36:11

thing I noticed that changed when

36:13

I was at the height of the ability

36:15

to the point where I could almost

36:17

do it voluntarily was

36:20

I was taking large doses of

36:22

LSD every day .

36:24

Oh my well , I know there

36:27

might be something else to it . Then you

36:30

might have been imagining a few of those . I had to

36:32

put this in .

36:33

Okay . So for some reason that boosted my ability to affect streetlights , not just while tripping

36:35

, mind you . Most of the time it happened while coming down or sober . Okay . So for some reason that boosted

36:37

my ability to affect streetlights , Not just while tripping , mind

36:39

you , Most of the time it happened while coming

36:41

down or sober . When I stopped

36:43

doing acid and stopped smoking weed

36:45

, this stopped happening completely . It

36:47

could be related or just the new lights

36:50

not having the same vulnerability to

36:52

whatever weird static discharge I

36:54

made when my mind was expanded

36:56

. And that's from Ether serve

36:58

three to six . Don't

37:07

really take hallucinogenics like see tracer lights afterwards I feel like he was maybe just seeing

37:09

some trace First . Okay , I enjoy that he started . I

37:11

was they started the episode started this

37:13

by saying that it used to happen all the time

37:15

, but it hasn't happened in 13 years since

37:18

the lights got replaced . But then he goes

37:20

on to say that it might just

37:22

be because he's not taking .

37:24

LSD anymore .

37:28

Listen , there was a time when I took

37:30

acid every day and the lights

37:32

were flickering . Okay

37:37

, so those are my stories . So

37:39

, um , I had to add that one in there

37:41

because I thought it was so funny so

37:43

I wish now that I really had like

37:45

an answer for you , but I think

37:47

that we kind of do have an answer I

37:50

think we have .

37:50

I mean , as usual , we make our

37:52

own answers .

37:53

Let's be for real because it's

37:55

our podcasting weekend .

37:57

Yes , um no , you

37:59

know what we're gonna do I'm gonna do , now

38:02

that I have this newfound diagnosis

38:05

yeah , I mean , I guess it could be ability

38:07

. You have an ability I'm gonna start a slider

38:09

support group . All right , listeners . So anybody

38:12

here who thinks they might be a slider , if

38:14

you just found out something new about yourself too , we're gonna

38:16

start a slider support group . We're going to figure out what

38:18

the hell is going on and I don't know . Maybe

38:20

come up with a couple of bright ideas on how to fix it . See

38:23

what ?

38:24

I did there , yeah

38:26

, or that would be cool to see how many other sliders

38:28

we have . You know what we should do ? We

38:31

should go live one day while

38:33

we all eat sliders and we talk

38:35

about sliders day

38:38

. While we all eat sliders and we talk about sliders , I'm here for that , just so that we could have

38:40

sliders .

38:40

I listen , it does not take a big excuse needed

38:42

for me to eat a couple of slides .

38:44

It would be fun if we went live and everybody

38:46

, everybody ate .

38:47

We need to go to green dot I've never been there I

38:50

don't . It's all sliders , no I've never been there

38:52

.

38:52

Let's go . Do you just pick ?

38:53

a bunch of different ones that you want yes

38:55

, and they have like a bunch of like rotating ones

38:58

and stuff and they're all so good . Downtown

39:00

Detroit . I've never been there . Green

39:02

Dot Stables oh my God , I'm taking you . Okay

39:04

, it's so good .

39:06

Well , okay . So I was going to ask you

39:08

do you feel better about this ? But I think you do . Now

39:10

you know that you have an

39:12

issue .

39:13

Crazy about all these random things . No , literally

39:15

. Like the christmas curse is like an ongoing

39:18

thing in our family . Like they just assumed

39:20

, whatever electronic I get would die denise

39:22

but

39:25

yeah , no , this is that's why

39:27

I was like I I know we're gonna leave it in now , but

39:29

I was like we need to have a side talk

39:31

here for a second like did I tell you ?

39:33

about this . I thought that I fucked something

39:35

up because you're like did you do this on purpose ? And I was like I that I fucked something

39:37

up because you're like did you do this on purpose ? And I was like I thought I

39:39

fucked something up . I was like was I ? Did I forget

39:41

something ?

39:42

like I was supposed to do something else , like I kind

39:44

of we finally write the same episode that

39:46

we've been , and that's also what I thought too , and I was like

39:48

oh fuck , what happened . But no

39:51

hurry , this is wild , all right . Other

39:53

sliders let us know um

39:55

other weird psychic abilities

39:57

. Let us know those too . Listen

39:59

, in a year and a half we put out one paranormal postcard

40:02

episode , which is your stories read

40:04

back to you . We are ready to do more

40:06

write in babies anything weird

40:08

. Otherwise , though , great job

40:10

.

40:11

I learned so much today thank

40:13

you , thank you all right

40:15

. Well , thanks for listening . We appreciate

40:18

you . Like zach said , we'd love more stories so

40:20

that we could share your experiences with everybody

40:22

else . Send us photos , videos , weird

40:24

shit that happens . Hopefully we have some

40:27

content , if you will , from

40:29

the loes that we can share with you once we

40:31

get back stay tuned so excited

40:33

um and that's really

40:35

everything like subscribe , comment

40:38

, but most importantly , creep it real

40:40

yabbles goodbye bye .

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