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Welcome to the oddity shop where

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the bizarre is always on sale

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Welcome in Oddballs . This

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is your curator Cara , with your other curator

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, zach .

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And this is the oddity shop podcast , where

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we tell you weird , creepy , odd , strange , bizarre , paranormal

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, psychotic , mysterious , unsolved

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stories .

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I like how you said paranormal , pernormal

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, pernormal Psychotics .

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I was trying to add some new ones in there

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and make it longer than usual . I want

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people to really know what they're getting

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into . Psychotic Pernormal

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Is I'm wearing my cat shirt Pernormal

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?

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There , you go .

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There we go . Do you have anything

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to say to me ? Today Is it your

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birthday . Yesterday was .

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I hate this Happy

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belated birthday .

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Thank you so much , in all fairness , and I think

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we're going to try to fix this

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issue soon . Yeah , but

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it is only February for us . We'll see , but

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she should have known what date this was coming out , whatever

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.

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You didn't know my birthday date .

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That's true , you're right . Happy

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fucking birthday , thank you . Thank you

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, I hope it's a good one . Dude

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, we need to go to a paranormal

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convention . What is wrong with us ?

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Just the way you said that .

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I hope it's a good one . I hope it's a good one when

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you're all listening to this , ask me , ask

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me if it was a good one .

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Ask me , ask me

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, well , we might

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be going .

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We might be already have gone to one , two . We're contemplating

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going to one 12 days

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before this airs . So you

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know , you might you might see some pictures of that too

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. That's what all I got . What

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do you got ?

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I asked you like I

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don't know two weeks , whatever it does matter . I'm

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like , hey , don't do your stickers

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peel off of your water bottle . And you're

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like , if you get blah , blah , blah sometimes they do , what

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is fine ? I'm like , okay , and then

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I sat there for like two hours

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contemplating putting stickers

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in my water bottle and having like the

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worst anxiety about it . Don't

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know why I even went to and

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I have like all my stickers I

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have , okay . So like I have ropes

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hanging in front of me like rope lights , yeah

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, and I have them just like all hanging

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from it . So like you know what I mean , like I look at them

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all the time when I'm recording . But anyway , I was like

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, oh , I could put them on my water bottle , whatever . Then

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I was like , no , that's giving me anxiety . So

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then I was going to go to red bubble and reorder

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all the stickers that I have to put

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on my water bottle .

2:51

Oh my God .

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Right , okay . Anyway , this went on for like

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three days of me doing this back and forth

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and then I was like I just see to this

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is giving me anxiety .

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You're actually insane .

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Okay , so I'm at work , my

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water bottle is in my backpack . My backpack is

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like a stiff backpack , so it's like always

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open , like I don't ever shut it because I don't really need to

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.

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Yeah .

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But I forgot my badge . So

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I leaned over my car to grab my

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into my car to the passenger seat to grab my badge

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. My water bottle fell out of my backpack , hit

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me in the fucking head , fell in the parking

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lot and fucking broke . So

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I'm glad .

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The bottle , part of the top part .

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So this handle cracked

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.

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Yeah , okay , the clippy , so the handle

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cracked .

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This doesn't work right anymore . I can

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still use it , but , like the whole purpose I bought

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this was because I wanted this handle and it cracked

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. So really I'm going to probably stop

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using it . But I was like so thankful

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I didn't have all my stickers on it .

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That's the only reason I actually put the stickers all

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over my bottle is because the tops I can replace

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and , like I mean , there's

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no clippy thing .

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Yeah , it's not like a clip it's , it's

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just a handle .

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Yeah , but yeah , anyway .

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so that was that , and then

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my one tree

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Hill Jersey finally came in , the mail

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that I ordered like four months ago .

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Why are you not ?

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wearing it . I'm not wearing it . I'm putting it in a fucking

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frame and putting on the wall . It's signed by Chad

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Michael Murray . I'm not , he touched it

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. He did touch it . I

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smelt it .

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You know , did it smell like

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him ? I don't know what he smells like In that

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case , you want to

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know what I got in the shop today . You want a question

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?

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Well , is that you don't have anything to tell me

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?

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No , not really . I

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just am so happy that you remembered my birthday , without

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it being unprompted , or

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with it being unprompted . What

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the fuck is the question ? The fuck the

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question is , I don't

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know . I was trying to it , just it didn't work

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. Whatever , your question is do you think

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that the sets of

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horror movies themselves can conjure up

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some real darkness ? Yes

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, do you care to elaborate ?

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I feel like I don't have to because my listeners know

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me . But yes , we

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talk about all the time manifesting energy

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, agragoras , topos , all

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that stuff . So if you have like a set , that's

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like all dark stuff actually

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a lot of movie sets are haunted

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because of you know the movies

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that have been filmed there- in the past , so you

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hear that actually quite often , so

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I'm assuming you're going to tell me about a set

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that's haunted .

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Oh yeah , Not not only just

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haunted , but also

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cursed .

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So bring it on baby 1982

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.

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Steven Spielberg writes a movie

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. Did not actually direct it , but wrote a movie that

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came out that captured the entire

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world in the long lasting fear

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. 82 horror movie

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. Spielberg , do you know what it is ? Poltergeist

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baby ? Do

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you ? Do you know of the weirdness and

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the curse of the Poltergeist ? Have you heard of it ? Do you know

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the details ?

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I don't know the details , but I want harbors

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on all that . There's a lot of fucked up shit that

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happened .

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Yeah , yeah , I would say fucked up . Shit barely

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scratches the surface , but give

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it to me . We're gonna start with some movie facts first

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. So , like I said , came out in 82

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, written by Spielberg but directed

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by a gentleman named Toby Hooper

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, basically because Spielberg was

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working on another movie

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at the same time . I can't remember which movie it

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was I want to see . Was ET actually , or

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maybe no , that's too early . I don't

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remember what it was , but it's another one . They actually

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almost got it to be directed by Stephen

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King , which would have been kind of cool . Steve Spielberg

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and Steve King .

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Tell me about wilds , then I probably really would

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have been haunted .

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Seriously Well , I mean , they didn't have any problems

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with that . Let's be for real . It

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was immediately , though , really , really successful

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. It was the top or the

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eighth most highest

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grossing movie that year , and

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you know it's still regularly on like the top hundred

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scariest movies of all time lists . It

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reached cult classic status relatively

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quickly , so much so that

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it spurred , you know , two sequels

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. So there's poltergeist , poltergeist two and three

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.

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All of them have their weird shit , I didn't realize there was

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three .

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There are three . The third one didn't really

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like . Hit that , yeah

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, but I mean all you have to do is say they're

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here and people know exactly

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what you're talking about , like it's , it's famous , famous

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. When was the last time you watched the movie

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?

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I think I watched it once when I was little . I

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was at the babysitter's Awesome Older kids

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were watching it . Probably shouldn't have , probably

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shouldn't have .

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I would say another one too , where I watched it like way

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too young and it terrified me for so long

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.

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Did you rewatch it for this episode ?

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I did .

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Okay , I should rewatch it .

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It's . It's worth a rewatch . Obviously

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, you know effects from 82 don't

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hold up , but I loved that stuff

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doesn't bother me .

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Yeah , I know there are some people that can't watch older

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stuff because of that , that that stuff doesn't

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bother me .

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I think the coolest thing about going back and rewatching

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it is realizing how much

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of an effect it's had on other movies . So like

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the entire way

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all of the Conjuring

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Universe movies are set up is very

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poltergeist . Okay

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, so it's . You know they're bringing the Paris psychologist

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, but the way like obviously it's not

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Ed and Lorraine being portrayed in the poltergeist

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, but the way those characters are is like kind

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of you can see how the writing influenced the Conjuring

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Universe . Gotcha Okay but we'll do

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like a quick recap of the whole

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movie and then get into the strangeness . Cool

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. So the official description

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is strange and creepy happenings

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beset an average California

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family , the Freelings Steve

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played by Craig T Nelson , Diane

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played by Joe Beth Williams , teenage

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daughter Dana Dominique Dunn

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, eight year old Robbie Oliver

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Robbins and five year old Carol

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Ann Heather O'Rourke . When

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ghosts commune with them through the television

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set , Initially it's friendly and playful

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, but the spirits turn unexpectedly

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menacing . And when Carol Ann goes missing

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, Steve and Diane turn to a Paris psychologist

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and eventually an exorcist for help

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.

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I really don't remember this movie .

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Yeah , it was . Honestly , it was really different than I remembered

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it too . So I mean , it starts off though . You

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have your typical American family , right . So it's mom

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and dad , three kiddos . Dad

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is so Steve . He is like

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that kind of like salesman trope

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, but you find out he's actually the realtor who

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sold . He's the top salesman

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of the development they live in , which is called

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Quest of Verde , california

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. So they have their three kids Dana

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she's the teenager 16 , and then there's

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Robbie and Carol Ann , eight and five

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, who share a bedroom together . It

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starts off pretty normally , you know . It's family doing family

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crap , and then one night Caroline

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sees some like white lights coming out

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of the TV like a mist , and she

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starts talking into the TV set . So

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that's the first thing .

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Wait , I'm sorry . Who started

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talking ? The little .

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Caroline , the little five-year-olds

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Little one , okay . So then the next

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night they're all kind of , I think , there's

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like a storm or something and they're all in the parents' bedroom

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like the two younger kids and

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Caroline's kind of watching . And it's like you know , at night when

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the TV used to switch over to like the static after

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it played the anthem . So that's

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happening and she's looking at it again and

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like the entire room starts to shake and

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things are falling off the wall . The whole room is getting like

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disheveled and that's when

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that like mist comes out of the TV

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again hits the wall behind the bed

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. Everyone wakes up and then

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she goes . They're here , the

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TV people , as Caroline calls them at

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first . So the family's like okay , was

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it an earthquake ? Was it this ? Was it that

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you know ? Trying to figure out what's going on .

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Oh yeah , earthquake , that makes sense .

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Well , because , like , everything is like thrown

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around the room , you know . Yeah , no

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, that makes sense , and it's California so Exactly

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, I thought you were being sarcastic at first . No

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, no , no , no , no , no . So then the next day they're

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all kind of eating together and like weird

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little things are happening , right , so like Robby

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looks away for a second and his silverware

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is twisted in bed .

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Oh , that just gave me goosebumps .

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Yeah , and then little things start to move , and

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then the mom makes like a point of

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making sure , like telling everyone to push their chairs in

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when they get up and walk away , and so they like

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turn and the camera goes back and all the chairs

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are pulled like a couple feet out . Diana's

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like what the hell , guys , stop playing tricks

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. She pushes them all back in , she talks to Caroline

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for a second , she turns , and then they're all stacked on the

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table .

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Oh , of course .

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They're like you know what's going on , whatever . Then

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they're like if they set a chair in a certain

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spot in the kitchen , it would slide across back

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into the dining room . And Diane's

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, like you can see , she's like excited about this

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, like we don't know what's going on . She

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at one point puts a helmet on Carol Ann and sets

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her in the spot and she slides across the room . They

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show the husband like okay , whatever , this is fun

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, what you know , it's fine

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. But it starts to like get

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more sinister . The

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next night there's a storm and

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like it had kind of alluded to the fact that Robby was

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afraid of two things in his room this giant

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tree outside and then this clown

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, that's this giant stuffed clown that sits

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at the end of his bed and like stares at him .

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I would be terrified of that as well . Why do we have

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that ?

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Well , the funny thing is is like it starts off like

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it's like the clown's going to do something , so he

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throws a jacket over it every night , you know . But what ends

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up happening is , as the storm comes in , the tree

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breaks into his room , grabs

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him with its branches and starts trying to eat him

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. Okay , mom and dad run outside

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to try to save him from this tree . Mind

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you , they're also building a swimming

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pool in the back . They're very worried . The kids are

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going to fall into this pit . Okay , dad's

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trying to save him from being eaten by a tree . Nobody

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is watching . Carol Ann , though . In her room

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there's a bright light coming from the closet

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and a vortex sucking everything in

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and trying to like pull her in . Okay

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, anyways , the tree . They save Robby from the

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tree . Somehow the tree gets sucked up into

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the sky in a tornado . So now they think

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it's a tornado .

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I like how you're like , anyway , anyway .

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Carol Ann does get sucked into her closet and

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disappear . So they go like throughout the house

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everyone's trying to find her . They can

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, but then they start hearing her

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like a disembodied voice

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. So she's saying , mommy

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, like I can't see , okay

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, so like they try to ask the neighbors if anything weird happened

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, you know , but they're trying not to like seem

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crazy .

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But their child is still missing .

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Anyway , they go to the cops . The cops they

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find like a parapsychologist and they come

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in and it's like very much like they're saying the

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kind where you know they set up all their equipment , they're going to debunk

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, they're going to do this , and

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what they start to show her is a couple of things

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. Right , appert , appertion Is

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that right ? Where like items just fall out

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of nowhere ?

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Oh yeah .

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In that movie they were calling it by location

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because it was coming from a different location to this one

15:03

. They showed them the kids room

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, which was just . All . Their

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items are just swirling in a vortex in the room

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. Nobody goes in there , they just keep it locked .

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So it's consistently swirling .

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Oh yeah , just consistent . And they

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show like if they turn that static on

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the TV they can start to have a conversation

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with Carolyn , but they can't find her

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, like physically find her .

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This is like stranger things .

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That's what I was saying . There's actually some tie ins to stranger

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things . As we get further into like it , you

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can see how it's really .

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Affected other .

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Yeah , inspired a lot of other things

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. Things get weirder and weirder , right ? So

15:37

as the investigators of their longer , like one

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guy , he's in the bathroom and he has this vision of him

15:41

ripping his own face off . Other

15:44

guy goes like get food and it turns to

15:46

maggots . You know typical horror movie trope . They're

15:49

seeing these apparitions fully manifest

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. The Paris psychologists are like , hey , listen , this is

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like above what we can do . So

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they bring in the one , the

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only the lovely exorcist

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named Tanjaina . She's

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amazing , by the way . I guess

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she was actually like a medium in real life

16:07

and they just brought her in where , like you're actually , they wanted

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to like consult with the medium and they're like , actually

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, you're just going to be in the movie .

16:13

What was this ?

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That was her real name in the movie . It's Tanjaina

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Her real name . I've got

16:18

it further down in the note .

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Okay , that's fine . Who came up with that name

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?

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I don't know . And anyways

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, what they're finding is that there's tons

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of angry spirits in this house who don't

16:29

know their dad , and Carol Ann needs to lead

16:31

them to the light , but she can't go into the light because

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then she'll cross over and she can't come back .

16:35

Okay , that's a lot for a five

16:38

year old .

16:38

All this is happening , steve is like

16:41

with his boss and his boss is like hey

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, you're the number one salesman , great job . Like I'm going to

16:45

show you the new development . They go there and there's

16:47

it's like overlooking the one they live in

16:49

and there's a cemetery . He's like

16:51

oh well , we'll just move these bodies . Steve's

16:53

like you can't do that . He goes . Well , we did that where

16:55

you live .

16:56

No Cute .

16:57

Yeah .

16:58

Okay , first off , hold on . Can

17:01

I just whatever ? If you were , I don't care if

17:03

you're top salesman or not , your child's

17:06

missing , you ain't going to work .

17:08

So it was like I can't remember

17:10

the exact reason because he was like calling out

17:12

of work and saying he had the flu , because he was like really

17:14

freaked out .

17:15

Okay .

17:16

So it was before it got like super intense , but

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there's some reason he had to go meet with his boss

17:20

.

17:20

Okay .

17:21

So , anyways , though , they get back at the house

17:24

like tons of commotion going on . So the medium

17:26

tangi , or the exorcist tangina , basically

17:29

comes up with the plan . Right , she finds

17:31

out that the by location is happening for items

17:33

that go into the closet . They're coming out of the ceiling

17:35

in the living room .

17:36

Oh , okay .

17:37

So this closet is some portal . But she also

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says there's like one main

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angry evil spirit who wants

17:44

to keep Carol Ann and like , keep all the spirits

17:46

there .

17:47

Okay .

17:48

So one who's like pushing back on , you know , everyone

17:50

else being saved and going into the light

17:52

, okay , so

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basically , the only way they can do this is with love . Obviously

17:57

, they have to tie a rope to Diane

17:59

, send her in once . Carol

18:02

Ann gets everyone to go to the light and

18:04

then , of course , they fall through

18:06

the living room ceiling in this

18:08

. It's very traumatic . Are they dead ? Are they not

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dead ? They're alive , it's fine

18:12

. But Carol Ann helped everyone

18:14

crossover and the

18:17

movie starts end with Steve's

18:19

going to go quit his job , he's going to stick

18:21

it to the boss , and they're all moving and packing up

18:23

the house and Everyone's happy

18:25

. So and the house calmed down , right

18:27

, cuz they saved the day . So Diane

18:30

is like , okay , well , he's like I just gotta go take care

18:33

of some things . You know , stay here with the kids , I'll come

18:35

back and we'll leave . And he specifically

18:37

says if the kids start to get tired , you know , just let him conk

18:39

out , that way they'll sleep in the car . So it's getting

18:41

late , diane takes a bath and

18:43

then she goes into her room . The kids are

18:45

in their room and like shit hits the fan 10 times worse

18:48

than it ever has before . So now

18:50

out of the closet is very stranger things like it

18:52

opens and it's a mouth and it's trying to suck

18:54

the kids in and Diane is getting spun around

18:56

the ceiling of her room . She realizes

18:58

like she needs to get these fucking kids out

19:00

right , so she burst into their

19:02

room or no . Before she does that , she

19:05

she's trying to save them because

19:07

they're like getting sucked in there . So I think she goes outside

19:09

for help and Gets locked out of

19:11

the house . Like the house locks her out as it's trying

19:13

to suck the kids into this giant mouth . Now

19:15

that's in their closet and this giant demon comes

19:18

out of it at one point . It's just it's all over the top

19:20

. Yeah , as she's in the backyard , she

19:22

falls into the pool pit and

19:24

Of course Skeletons start

19:26

coming out . You know , oh cuz what they find

19:29

out . Oh , steve pulls up

19:31

at this point with his boss like why

19:33

, I don't know . So Diane comes

19:35

like she finally gets freed of all these skeletons

19:37

, trying to pull her back in the pool . She's running around like

19:39

coffins are coming out of the ground and skeletons

19:42

are falling out of the . Steve

19:44

looks at his boss . He's like you didn't just move the graveyard

19:47

, you only move the headstones , like you asshole

19:49

. So all the bodies are still buried

19:51

under the development . So now

19:53

we know why it's haunted and of course it's going

19:56

for the top salesman right . And

19:58

in the nicotine team time they

20:01

get the kids out of the house . Diane had

20:03

gotten back in there as bodies are coming through

20:05

the floor of their house . She gets everyone out , they

20:07

yell at the demon and as they come out

20:09

of the house like the entire house sucks into her vortex

20:12

and just like disappears and then the family drives off . Okay

20:14

, okay . So now that you have a

20:17

refresher on everything that

20:19

happened , let's go through . Do

20:22

you want to go through the weirdness or

20:25

do you want to go through some movie

20:27

facts ? Do you need like a palette cleanser

20:29

?

20:29

No , I mean , I don't care . However you want to do it . I'm

20:31

just thinking that this doesn't seem like

20:34

a poltergeist , so it's weird that

20:36

we're okay , so that that's the last

20:38

of the movie fact . I have .

20:40

It's not a poltergeist . Poltergeist are

20:42

not Okay . So commonly , yes

20:45

, they were thought of as being spirits that can move things around

20:47

, but I think more parapsychologists

20:49

. As research has gone now , it was believed they were spirits

20:52

in 80s . Now we know that poltergeist

20:54

is really psychic energy , so this would be more

20:56

of like , I would say , an intelligent

20:59

spirit mixed with demonic possession

21:01

. Like I said , though , it it

21:03

it was super , super popular

21:05

. You already asked me . I said I

21:07

watched it last week . It holds up pretty well . It's

21:10

got a couple scares , I think like . The biggest

21:12

part , though , is it's like especially because it was

21:14

before everything else , it was really , really original

21:17

of a story . Yeah when I said was the eighth

21:19

top grossing movie that year . In 1982

21:21

, it actually brought in over seventy six million

21:23

dollars which is do you know what that's converted

21:26

? I don't , but it's a lot more than seventy

21:28

six million . Yeah Well yeah

21:30

, but it's like there's

21:32

something about like not

21:34

only the influence this movie has right

21:37

on Horror movies going forward

21:39

, like you could almost say , it's like it's kind

21:41

of haunted horror movies in its own way . It

21:43

was actually really really fucking haunted

21:45

and it caused a lot of bad things

21:48

. So there's a lot of stuff that

21:50

was starting to happen on and around

21:52

the set , then in people who were working

21:54

on the show they're the movies homes and

21:57

then in like an entire slew of deaths . So

22:00

just so you know what's coming . Well

22:02

, the first oddities that were starting to happen

22:04

with the filming was

22:06

onset . So that clown

22:09

that I said like at the beginning movie didn't do anything

22:11

. At that culminating scene

22:13

, when everything is going crazy , robbie

22:15

goes to look out the window remember , he was afraid of the

22:17

tree . So he's like goes , the tree gonna come back

22:19

. And he turns around . The clown Wraps its arm

22:22

around him and pulls him under the bed and starts

22:24

choking . Oh , God , I'm not watching

22:26

this that scene was actually filmed

22:29

in reverse and then played

22:31

reverse , so like in the 80s , it's

22:33

hard to have a clown doll drag him under the

22:35

bed . So this whole it was tied to this whole contraption

22:37

that it would actually come out and done , unwrap

22:39

his neck got you supposed to be really

22:41

safe . Except Oliver Robbins

22:44

, who played Robbie , was actually

22:46

choked by the clown . So when

22:48

he's under the bed waiting for that film to

22:51

like , start the scene so they could start to move

22:53

in reverse . Yeah the arm actually

22:55

got stuck around his neck and started

22:57

choking him . And remember he's under a bed . Under

22:59

the bed , when

23:01

this is happening , think God there was one producer

23:04

who's sitting off and who could kind

23:06

of see , like Robbie really clearly

23:08

, or Oliver's is really see

23:10

, oliver , you know , and he was able to notice

23:13

that the kid was actually like not playing

23:15

around , like he was Struggling and trying to

23:17

pull the the arm off . He

23:19

ends up pulling Oliver out and out of harm's

23:21

way and Oliver Robbins

23:24

actually says like who knows what

23:26

might have happened otherwise . It all happened so

23:28

fast and I didn't think anything

23:30

could have happened with this . But who

23:32

knows , maybe if they didn't see it

23:34

I wouldn't be here today . Thanks , okay

23:37

.

23:37

I would not want to do that scene again .

23:39

Yeah , right then remember our friend

23:41

Hangeina . Okay , her real name is Zelda

23:44

Rubenstein , which is even cooler

23:46

yet . I love the name

23:48

Zelda Rubenstein . I knew I had her name down

23:50

in my notes here . You know , actors

23:53

don't live at home when they're filming . Okay

23:56

, and she wasn't really an actress or anything . She was just a

23:58

medium who ended up getting pulled into the

24:00

movie and during the filming , she

24:02

had a dream where her dog came to visit

24:04

her . Okay , and the dog

24:06

in the dream spoke like a human and

24:08

looked at her and said goodbye .

24:10

When she woke up , she had received a phone call from home

24:12

letting her know that her dog had passed

24:15

away and Nobody could really

24:17

knew why so I don't

24:19

know if I would attribute that to the movie

24:21

, though , or the set , just because she's already , like

24:23

, a medium type of person , so that could

24:25

have just been coincidental .

24:27

I was with you on that too , except for

24:29

the fact that they can't

24:31

really pinpoint why the dog passed

24:33

like it Wasn't an old dog

24:36

. It wasn't a hurt dog .

24:37

Yeah .

24:38

During the filming of the second movie . When Zelda

24:40

comes back , there is

24:42

another premonition she gets where her

24:44

mom and her dog come to say goodbye . Oh

24:47

no , her mom did pass . Now , whether

24:49

this one's part of the curse or the haunting , she

24:51

found it out after filming . But the

24:54

they figured out . The time that she did

24:56

pass lined up perfectly with this really

24:58

weird shot from the film when

25:01

they were getting an unexpected light

25:03

anomaly right in front of Zelda

25:05

weird , so fire mom probably

25:07

her mom . So I'm kind of with

25:09

you on that one .

25:10

Those two are just be coincidental , but

25:12

that is weird .

25:13

That's a both but both movies

25:15

, somebody close to her , yeah that's strange

25:17

. Okay , some of the stuff that started happened

25:19

then outside of the set , and

25:22

this is like we're not even gonna get into everything

25:24

, or or every death , we just don't

25:26

yeah but people's houses started

25:28

to get haunted . So Jo Beth Williams , who played Diane

25:30

, the mom or Diana she

25:32

had crazy things start to happen around her own

25:34

home so her bed would shake , just

25:37

like her bed shook in the first movie , or

25:39

she'd come home and things would be like a skew

25:41

or moved around like really similar

25:43

to what her character was actually going through . Interesting

25:46

, she started to get this like feeling

25:48

that whatever was in her home didn't want

25:50

her to do the film . Oh Huh

25:53

and Dominique Dunn , who played the teenage

25:55

daughter . She came into her house

25:58

one day and watched her bookshelf tip

26:00

over as all the books flew off

26:02

the shelf at her . But it's like you

26:04

know , when something's tipping right , those books

26:06

would go down and not fly yeah , they wouldn't shoot

26:08

yeah , so that doesn't make sense at

26:10

all . Then there was James

26:13

Kahn . James Kahn wasn't actually

26:15

in the film . He was hired by Spielberg to

26:17

write the novel alongside

26:19

the film . So Spielberg wrote like the screenplay

26:22

for the movie , but he hires this man

26:24

to write like an actual novel to

26:26

go along with it , because screenplays and novels are written

26:28

very different . James Kahn and his assistant

26:31

are working in Spielberg's office late

26:33

one night when the building gets hit by lightning

26:35

and all the lights go out . Oh , then

26:38

the lights come back on and , as they do

26:40

, the AC came out of the window and hits

26:42

James Kahn . What

26:44

? Which ? Think about that ? A window unit

26:46

AC . If you open

26:48

a window , it's falling out

26:50

of the window .

26:51

This seems like , um , like , some

26:54

cartoon . Uh , what's

26:56

the ?

26:57

Acme .

26:59

Yeah .

27:00

Yeah , like the piano is falling on people . Yeah , spielberg's

27:04

office also had a lot of , like , video

27:06

and arcade games . So

27:09

as the lights came back on , every one of the games

27:11

came on and were going off full blast . And not

27:13

only that , like that's not too

27:15

weird , after lightning , right , yeah

27:18

, the games started

27:20

playing themselves

27:23

. So Mr Kahn and his assistant

27:25

ran from the building .

27:27

See this type of stuff to me seems

27:29

more poltergeist than the actual movie

27:31

poltergeist .

27:33

Exactly , uh , but it was

27:35

. I think it's so weird that it's like things

27:37

that were happening in the movie are mimicking what's happening

27:39

in the actor's lives

27:42

to an extent , but it's like just like

27:44

where it started off . Like you know , kind of light

27:46

, things are getting more

27:48

and more malicious .

27:49

Sinister yeah .

27:51

So throughout the filming of the first and

27:53

the second movie and into the third

27:55

, things for all the actors and

27:57

production staff your typical

28:00

hauntings right Lights turning on and off , electronics

28:02

not working at home and dying . Some

28:05

are seeing apparitions of women wearing like

28:07

a woman wearing all black . So

28:10

, like I , basically all your

28:12

typical haunting tropes are happening

28:15

. A lot of people are hurt in

28:17

like so kind of like Robbie were like sets

28:20

that would go wrong . There was an explosion

28:22

that almost maimed two

28:24

guys legs . Any

28:27

scene that was like uncomfortable

28:29

to film to , so they weren't only getting

28:31

like hurt from special effects going

28:33

wrong , but like you know , as scenes

28:35

that aren't fun , like vomiting scenes

28:38

or whatever like that would put the actors

28:40

in like physical , uncomfortable situations

28:42

. The cameras would always

28:44

fuck up and glitch out and

28:46

they would have to do these scenes over

28:48

and over and over again . It

28:51

starts to get so bad in the

28:53

second filming and at one

28:55

point they're in a cave and everyone

28:57

has this uneasiness to

28:59

where one of the actors literally

29:02

got permission to do an exorcism

29:04

on the set itself

29:07

to like try to lighten things up

29:09

.

29:09

Then yeah .

29:10

Yeah , so

29:13

I mean that's . I think there's

29:15

enough there that it's beyond coincidental

29:17

, right ? Like well , Zelda

29:19

, yes , could be coincidental but you're

29:22

having that many things happen

29:24

.

29:24

Right , and if you , your voice just

29:26

happened .

29:28

I know .

29:29

If you were to go to any other set or ask

29:31

any other set of something else and be like how many

29:33

things went wrong , it would be nothing like

29:36

what you're telling us , like Exactly

29:39

.

29:40

And Spielberg . During these movies he

29:42

had a lot of actors

29:45

, right , like your typical actors , but

29:47

he also did a lot of

29:49

like finding people

29:51

who weren't necessarily actors . So

29:54

, like you know , you're bringing in an actual medium . Now

29:56

you're giving somebody who probably has never done an exorcism

29:58

in their life the actual

30:00

you know what I mean so

30:03

permission to do it .

30:04

Yeah , no . So

30:06

like your , somebody that has like

30:08

power , is not the right verbage

30:11

, but you know what I mean . Like that spiritual

30:13

, that , that type of power I guess

30:15

you could call it . And then , even though you're

30:17

, you're acting , quote unquote

30:19

, you're still putting that out into

30:21

the universe , you're still yeah , so

30:24

you're manifesting , you're bringing somebody who's a natural amplifier

30:26

of these energies . I'm surprised

30:29

she did it , Like I'm surprised

30:31

she said yes , Like I guess I would feel like

30:33

I mean it's definitely

30:35

a different time , but I feel like yeah

30:37

. I don't know , if that were a case , you

30:39

, I would imagine , unless you

30:41

like , really need money or something . I

30:43

just would imagine somebody like that would be like yeah , no , that's

30:45

not a great idea .

30:47

Like no , so where are you sitting

30:49

now ? Curse or coincidence , or

30:51

somewhere in the middle ?

30:52

I think curse for sure , but I do think

30:54

that maybe her Zelda with her

30:56

family members might be a coincidence

30:58

.

30:59

Okay , that's fair , I'll give that one to you . Um

31:02

, let's get into the deaths . Okay , like

31:04

I said , I don't even have time to cover all of them . I think

31:06

we've got . I've

31:09

got five for you . Some

31:11

of the others would be like literally finding

31:13

production people on set dead in their

31:15

car .

31:16

Oh , my God .

31:17

I just like crazy happen since . So there's

31:19

more than just these . But

31:21

the first kind of the victim that we're going to

31:23

highlight from the poltergeist film

31:26

is Dominique Dunn . Oh my God

31:28

, so remember . The movie came out in 82 . Dominique

31:31

Dunn was born November 23rd 1959

31:34

. She played the teenage daughter Dana

31:37

. She actually she was in quite

31:39

a few films before you know

31:41

this was . This was her last one , but

31:43

she was in diaries of a teenage hitchhiker

31:45

, the shadow writers . She

31:47

was in a few TV series . So

31:50

in 1982 , though very

31:52

shortly after the movie comes out , she

31:54

had gotten into an argument with an ex-boyfriend

31:57

in the driveway of her West Hollywood home

31:59

. On October 30th

32:02

, as a result of the argument

32:04

, he began to strangle her

32:06

and he was so intense with it

32:08

that he put her into a coma . Five

32:11

days later , on November 4th

32:14

, dominique passes away . And

32:16

how old was she ? She was 27 at the

32:18

time . Her boyfriend charged

32:20

with and convicted of involuntary

32:23

manslaughter , and

32:25

he spends a total of three and a half years in

32:27

prison for his crime .

32:29

Fuck that .

32:30

I know it's disgusting

32:33

80s again , jesus

32:35

Christ , that's fucked up . It's

32:37

really fucked up , and if that was a one off

32:39

, I don't think it'd be like that shocking

32:41

or it's shocking , but you wouldn't relate

32:44

it back to the film , relate it .

32:45

Yeah , yeah , yeah , no .

32:46

Right , but once

32:48

we start to add in everything else like , it becomes a

32:50

little more than just coincidence . Our

32:53

next victim is Julian Beck . Beck

32:56

was born May 31st 1925

32:59

. He was an actor , a stage

33:01

director , a poet and a painter .

33:04

Very creative .

33:05

He's actually in the second

33:07

movie , so he plays Henry Kane who

33:10

is the malevolent preacher A

33:12

malevolent preacher , not a good guy , right

33:14

? Okay , right before the

33:16

filming starts , julian is diagnosed

33:19

with stomach cancer , progresses

33:22

oddly quickly through

33:24

the filming , or like through the

33:26

whole filming of the movie the second

33:28

movie , in 1985

33:31

, he actually passes from complications

33:33

due to the cancer Just

33:36

about the same time he wraps up his final

33:38

scenes . So he died in 85

33:40

. The movie doesn't even come out until 86

33:42

. So throughout the filming he

33:44

got like progressively worse very quickly

33:46

and then passed away within days

33:49

of wrapping up his shots . So

33:52

Julian Beck was 61 years old

33:54

at the time of his passing . So sad . And

33:56

then , like I promised you , the line would be in here

33:58

our next poor , unfortunate soul

34:00

. If you haven't

34:02

listed the last week's episode , I got very

34:05

upset when , kara , because I had already had mine

34:07

written and we used the same Ursula line- yeah

34:09

, cute Ursula on her eels . So

34:13

our next poor , unfortunate soul is

34:16

William Stamson . This

34:18

dude had a life , okay . So

34:20

he was born September 1933

34:22

. He was a painter

34:24

and actor and a rodeo performer , which

34:26

he did rodeos for 20 freaking years

34:28

. So yeah . Have

34:31

you ever watched and or read one

34:34

flew over the cuckoo's nest , a famous

34:36

Kubrick film .

34:37

I have it and I need to watch it .

34:39

Have you ever seen the cover of it , probably , or

34:41

any clips from it where you see chief Bromden

34:43

, the big Indian guy ?

34:46

is that movie ? Is that that's okay

34:48

?

34:48

Yeah , he was in some other like

34:50

Western style movies , ton of

34:52

stuff right . But so he's also in the

34:54

second movie . He plays the medicine man . He's

34:57

Native American , which I find

34:59

right . Like the ones who are going , we have the preacher

35:02

, the medicine man , like they're the ones who are usually

35:05

the saviors in the

35:07

real-life situations he had

35:09

suffered from for a long time

35:11

, from a disease

35:13

called scleroderma

35:16

, which is it's a gender

35:18

or degenerative condition that affects

35:20

, like , most of your major organs . Oh , God

35:23

just like back , though , during the filming

35:25

of the movie that he is in . It gets

35:27

worse a lot more quickly than it should . Huh

35:30

, I don't know if this adds any weight to this

35:32

character's death , but this is also the gentleman

35:34

who thought that the Set

35:37

had really , really bad energy , and

35:39

he is the one who performed the exorcism

35:41

. Okay shortly

35:44

after the premiere of the movie in 1986

35:46

, he drops from 260

35:49

pounds to 140 pounds

35:51

. Why does it had the disease

35:53

had gotten so bad ? Oh yeah . And

35:55

lung transplant , oh oh

35:58

. And in June of 1987

36:00

he passed from post-operative kidney

36:03

failure , which was the complication

36:05

of the transplant surgery . So

36:08

will , samson was

36:10

53 years old . Now

36:13

, our next one is

36:15

I'm gonna let you have your

36:17

argument . I want you to say if you think this is part

36:19

of the curse or not . Okay , lou Perryman

36:21

was an actor , and the first one who played

36:23

Pugsley , which is one of , like , the assistants

36:26

of the parapsychologist . Okay , he's born in

36:28

1941 , but

36:30

he was in a number of other movies like blues

36:32

brothers , boys don't cry . Texas chainsaw

36:34

massacre too . Our boy Lou probably

36:36

thought he had invaded the curse from the

36:38

movie . Until 2009 he's

36:41

in his home in Austin .

36:43

He was in the second movie .

36:45

He was in the first oh okay

36:47

, when they came out in 82 . So

36:49

he he's done other movies since

36:51

. Like he was in Texas chainsaw massacre

36:53

too . I think that's where you get in the tube . Oh , yeah , Okay

36:55

so he's in his house in Austin

36:57

, texas , and he here's kind

37:00

of like a commotion . He sees somebody trying to steal

37:02

his car , he goes outside and

37:04

man named Seth Tatum murders

37:06

him with an axe that escalated

37:09

quickly . Yeah , so Seth was

37:11

recently released from prison . He was

37:13

on a concoction of alcohol and

37:15

drugs . He was trying to steal

37:17

Perryman's car totally by chance , because

37:19

he had just Burglized another home

37:22

. And then the cops found out about this because

37:24

Tatum showed up to a jail nearby

37:26

later that day and just went up to officials and he goes

37:28

. I'm pretty sure I just killed the owner of the car

37:30

I just stole . Oh okay

37:32

, and then they go and find Lou's body . I

37:38

don't know what are your thoughts .

37:40

Oh , no , are you ? Do you have more to tell me ?

37:42

I have more . I held back something

37:44

on this one , so I need you to like actually

37:46

put your thoughts together .

37:48

Well , did he take something from

37:50

the set , or something ? No okay

37:52

, I don't know . I'm just thinking that it could

37:55

be because , like we kind of have talked about

37:57

other cursed objects and I don't

37:59

know , I have a hard time with this one , only because

38:01

I'm thinking if he took something

38:03

that may make sense .

38:04

Because , you know , I Don't know my

38:06

the , the way I pieced it together

38:08

, and I didn't find this from anywhere online . But

38:11

in the movie he is one of the assistants

38:13

of the parapsychologist who he's

38:15

the one who he's in the bathroom and he

38:17

has this like premonition of ripping

38:19

his own face off Okay after

38:22

that he's just never in the face

38:24

, not no , he just peels it

38:26

off .

38:26

No , no , no . I did he end up getting axed

38:29

.

38:29

He was bad it was axed kind

38:31

of everywhere . Okay , the next time the

38:33

parapsychologist talking to the parents like the

38:36

next day they're like it pugs , they's not

38:38

coming back , like he is too freaked out . He ran

38:40

so like did he like run

38:42

his character run ? And then it

38:44

like kind of caught up with him later sort of

38:46

deal . Like I don't know if maybe there's a line

38:48

to draw there it's . It's definitely a reach , but

38:51

yeah , I don't know . Still very strange .

38:53

I don't . Yeah , it is definitely strange

38:56

. I think so . Like with curses , they

38:58

don't necessarily all make sense

39:00

as to the when and the where , the what , like you know what

39:02

I mean , like why that's like final destination

39:04

shit . Exactly . So I could

39:06

definitely say , yeah , it could

39:08

definitely be for sure part of that curse

39:10

, but I don't , I don't know , and

39:12

like it's one thing if it's one

39:15

or two people .

39:16

We're up to four stories

39:18

right now that you've heard Two others

39:20

that we're not even covering , like the guy found in his car

39:22

, and we have one major actress

39:24

left , so it's just too

39:27

much . You know what I mean . Yeah , the

39:29

final victim that we're going to cover

39:31

, at least probably the saddest

39:33

, and this is Heather

39:35

O'Rourke , who was born December

39:37

27th 1976

39:40

.

39:40

Okay .

39:41

Her older sister , tammy , was an actress

39:44

.

39:44

Okay .

39:45

And Tammy , heather and

39:47

her mom one day are eating at a

39:49

eating lunch together at a restaurant

39:51

near the set of another film that Tammy

39:53

, her older sister , was filming in Spielberg's

39:56

, also eating here . And remember I told

39:58

you he just was kind of finding people

40:00

, yeah , for the poltergeist film . So

40:02

he clocks Heather and thought that

40:04

she would be a perfect fit for the casting of

40:06

a young , really pretty

40:08

girl named Carol Ann for his film

40:10

the Poltergeist .

40:11

Oh no .

40:12

So Carol Ann , she's actually in

40:14

all three films .

40:16

Okay .

40:16

Sadly , after the second

40:19

movie came out , she was diagnosed

40:21

with Crohn's disease , which is like a

40:24

yeah Bowel , you're to

40:26

buy Bowel , but it's awful . It's

40:28

awful , but she starts to present with

40:30

a lot of the symptoms that are very

40:32

similar to Crohn's . What we

40:34

find out later really happened is that

40:36

she had been drinking the well water from her

40:38

home and contracted , or contracted

40:40

, grr I'm not going to say it right

40:42

GRD-ASIS which is , like you know

40:45

, giardia , the bacteria or the parasite

40:47

.

40:48

Oh , poor girl , so they weren't even treating her for the

40:50

right thing .

40:51

So she does not have a chronic bowel

40:53

disease , she has a parasite . During

40:56

the third movie she's being

40:58

treated with cortisone

41:00

injections to treat

41:02

the Crohn's . Even though she's not presenting

41:04

symptoms , they think these injections

41:06

are keeping the Crohn's away . They

41:09

make her really self-conscious , though , because it makes her face

41:11

swell and she's really really upset

41:13

about that , because these are really really

41:15

really strong steroidal injection

41:18

that you know 76

41:20

, what in ? 82, ? She's six , she's

41:23

10 , 11 , 12 by

41:26

the last one .

41:26

Yeah , she's like 10 , 8 , 10 or 11 . Oh my God .

41:28

On January 31st 88 , so

41:31

she would be 12 . She is

41:33

at home and she gets really , really sick

41:35

and collapses . They think it's

41:37

influenza , so she's

41:39

rushed to the hospital and

41:41

on the way she suffers cardiac

41:43

arrest .

41:44

Oh , my God .

41:46

She's airlifted to another children's

41:48

hospital in San Diego and

41:50

, as they're trying to like work on her for that

41:53

, there's a bowel obstruction and

41:55

she actually dies during an operation

41:57

after the cardiac arrest where they were trying

41:59

to correct the bowel obstruction . Oh my God

42:01

. So here's what's really strange here . Daniel

42:04

Hollander , who's the head of gastrointinology

42:06

at University of California Irving

42:08

Medical Center , so like huge medical

42:11

facility states

42:13

that overworked death was distinctly unusual

42:15

as she lacked any of the priors to

42:17

the illness of a bowel defect . He would have

42:19

expected her to have a lot of digestive difficulties

42:22

, like throughout her life . If it was congenital

42:24

or like leading up to this , that

42:26

was indicative of obstruction

42:29

. So she collapses from something

42:31

that's like the flu throughout

42:33

the . You know all the movies . They think she

42:35

has Giardia , but the Giardia

42:38

parasite , or she has that , but it's

42:40

actually Crohn's , so she probably still had

42:42

the parasite . She's suffering

42:44

cardiac arrest . She's on all

42:46

these steroids .

42:47

And I'm sorry , when did they actually ? Doesn't make

42:49

sense she said she had that parasite , like after

42:51

she died .

42:52

That part I couldn't quite

42:54

figure out , but I would imagine it was probably during

42:56

the autopsy . So I mean she's

42:58

like the main actress

43:00

of the movies . You know what I mean . Like she is pretty

43:03

much the main character , she's in all three of

43:05

them and she dies when she's 12 of like

43:07

you can't even say she died of one thing

43:09

. It's all these things that just don't make

43:11

sense together , Okay .

43:12

That's wild .

43:14

Now that we're through all the deaths , coincidence occurs

43:16

. I mean it's occurs . What do you think caused

43:19

it , zelda ? I would already give

43:21

that she was probably an energy amplifier . You

43:24

hit on another theory a little bit earlier

43:26

, like the manifestation

43:28

or topos , or thought forms or all that . Right , like

43:30

we're around a lot of dark topics , you're

43:32

in it all the time . What ?

43:34

other You're feeding ? Do you know what

43:36

other movies were filmed on that set

43:38

?

43:38

I don't , but I know something about

43:40

the set that I haven't told you .

43:42

Didn't somebody kill themselves , like hang themselves

43:44

or something , or my thing is seeing their friends

43:46

Very likely .

43:47

I didn't cover all the deaths that I think

43:49

you might be thinking was a vase .

43:52

No , no , no , no , I know that one . No , I was .

43:54

It's related to deaths that happened before

43:57

it may be a different movie , but

43:59

I think there was a set before the

44:01

movie filmed that somebody had like hung themselves

44:03

in the set Anyway you

44:05

might have a whole new theory , but what I was

44:08

held from you is so

44:10

the end of the movie , when all the bodies

44:12

start popping out of the ground , 1982

44:14

, before we're very heavy into plastic . Skeletons

44:17

are very hard and expensive to

44:19

recreate from rubber , I didn't know this .

44:21

They used real skeletons .

44:22

They used real fucking skeletons

44:25

. I did know that the actors

44:27

did not know until after

44:29

.

44:29

Yeah , yeah , can you

44:31

imagine . So ?

44:32

Joe Beth Williams who kept . No

44:34

, Joe Beth who kept thinking

44:36

somebody was telling her not to film this

44:38

movie . I don't know , Maybe the real skeleton

44:41

she went swimming with . Can

44:43

you imagine when she found out ? Oh my God

44:45

, so you've . Now

44:47

I can't imagine they were donated

44:49

. So you've probably somehow gotten these bodies exhumed

44:52

or whatever you put them on a film

44:54

that is hugely popular and

44:57

you have all these actors and people and

44:59

a real life medium

45:01

working in these sets dealing

45:04

with all these dark topics . I mean literally the

45:07

story or the

45:09

oh my God , why can't I think of the word ? What's it like

45:12

? Fairy tales have a lesson . The lesson

45:14

of the movie right is don't disturb

45:16

the dead to build your perfect

45:18

neighborhood . You know like , respect

45:21

people's resting ground and

45:23

you distinctly go

45:27

against the lesson of the movie

45:29

you're filming to create a scene that's

45:31

literally the whole movie really . Yeah

45:33

, I mean , it's beyond ironic

45:35

right ? So no wonder you know , and why

45:37

it goes into the second and third movie Like you've

45:40

. You've literally pissed off spirits

45:42

by doing to them what you're

45:44

warning not to do in your movie .

45:46

That is actually really damn disrespectful

45:48

.

45:48

So most people are in agreement that

45:51

this is actually what caused the curse

45:53

.

45:53

No , for sure that makes that makes sense . But

45:55

yeah , I definitely think that's held up energy

45:57

and like what she probably practice or

45:59

you know whatever , definitely amplified

46:02

if not like , yeah

46:04

, dummies .

46:05

Now I will say there was , but I

46:08

completely meant to put his name in

46:10

my notes . I forgot to do it . I wanted

46:12

to leave you with one . There is a survivor

46:15

.

46:15

Oh my God , just one .

46:16

Somebody who survived , who was in the

46:19

first movie , who actually survived a plane

46:21

crash .

46:22

Yikes so .

46:23

I don't know if it's like a final destination thing .

46:25

He better get him at Izzy Alive Fazing

46:28

and his sage and Florida water

46:30

every night . I wonder if he's still

46:32

alive .

46:33

Yeah , I should give an update on that one , maybe

46:35

at the beginning of the next episode . I should have put it in there , but you

46:38

know .

46:38

Yeah , how he ended up . There's a lot to that curse

46:40

already , jeez .

46:42

So yeah , that's the , that's the curse of the poltergeist

46:45

movie .

46:45

Yeah , it's definitely definitely

46:48

cursed , for

46:50

sure . Yeah , let's

46:53

not use .

46:54

Real body is . Yeah , let's not Good Lord

46:56

. I mean , even if they decided to donate

46:58

their bodies right , like it was probably donated for science

47:01

, not to be a put on movie that

47:03

is still being watched regularly today

47:05

.

47:05

Can you imagine watching

47:08

that film and it be like

47:10

one of your loved ones or something , and

47:12

that's their ?

47:13

skeleton .

47:13

I mean , you probably wouldn't know because , like you said

47:16

, you can imagine it was . They were donated willingly

47:18

, but can you because you know

47:20

that happened for sure it happened .

47:22

It's just wild and

47:24

like that was a call to Spielberg . And look

47:27

at how many people's lives you've now affected .

47:29

That's insane .

47:30

There's other movies that have used real

47:32

and there's like when you start

47:35

to look into cursed movies . There are so

47:37

many and it makes sense when you

47:39

you break it down it does Anyways

47:42

.

47:42

Yeah , yeah , yeah .

47:43

With that . If there are any other cursed movies

47:46

you want us to cover , we're

47:48

still writing in . We'll figure out a

47:51

way for you to to call

47:53

in and leave voice memos soon . That's going to

47:55

happen , yeah yeah . Any curses

47:57

, any stories you want to hear , we

47:59

would absolutely love . We ask you every

48:01

week tell us your thoughts and your feelings

48:04

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48:06

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48:08

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48:10

here , leave us some nice words . We need

48:13

. We need our egos boosted .

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48:16

Yeah , tell Kara , she's pretty as always

48:19

. What else should they do

48:21

before we close the shop up ?

48:23

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48:26

, most importantly , creep it really eyeballs

48:28

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48:29

Goodbye , bye .