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Live off my need to show
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our second and final nights in
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London. it was that The Palladium
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and ah special guest is the
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wonderful Mike was Mack ones taskmaster
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contestant. Said
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that if I'm told of fun Brady might
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was an area. And.
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A half. Away on
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else in hotels he has you. H
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T Milks Yeah the illegal greedy little
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pale but little love the make sense
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because I think that would be a
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brilliant secret ingredient for regular episode. We
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would me to explain it really nice
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on as Tall as Out and show.
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only done that yet and we hadn't.
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An eye on myself like ashamed. yeah. but what's
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what's the matter with us that we haven't done
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the that? that was your ways to move from
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hotels with? oh that's so awful. So awful Fab
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a tell you what's not awful Might was me,
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I might was. the Us is fantastic. We love
3:11
Mike and it was a joy to be able
3:13
to talk to at the palladium position into an
3:15
episode with him to have. It's a bad habit
3:18
of such a lot the audience Yes so here
3:20
it is less is get on with it. It's
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the of money. many live of my my what
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via. The
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ice cubes. Boring
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and the cream of humor. As
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intervening think friendship. Thing
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in the blood, the internet
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traffic Vanilla ice cream. That
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is a gamble, my name is James A. Casser,
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together we own a dream restaurant and every single
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week we invite in a guest and we ask them
4:07
their favourite ever, start a main course, dessert, side dish
4:09
and drink, not in that order. And this week
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our guest is Mike
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Wozniak! Long
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time coming James, long time
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coming, we've been big fans of Mike from
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day one, we're so glad that everyone's here
4:24
to see Mike Wozniak here, and his name
4:26
is Bigger's Key Choices. I'm
4:28
just a bit of a... Just
4:33
a very conscious after. How
4:36
tired out I got, my health,
4:38
so I'm just checking how much. The
4:40
old pinch test. Doing a little pinch
4:42
of the hips. But it's not about me
4:44
Ed. No. If
4:48
there's anyone I've ever met who less needs a pinch test,
4:52
treat yourself like you're an overbearing mother in the 70s.
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Yeah that's true, absolutely pinch test man, you're
4:58
all good. Thank you man.
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This is the opening menu of Mike Wozniak! I'm
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going to do this
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properly Mike.
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I'm going to do it properly. I haven't
5:32
seen James yet, is that correct? Yes, that's
5:34
correct, yes, he's not seen the teeny yet.
5:37
Now at this point, normally
5:39
we invite the guest to rub the lamp at this
5:41
point, and you can, but also knowing that James has
5:44
just pulled a muscle, I think it's quite funny to
5:46
leave him squatting there for a while. But
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if you would like to get up and rub the lamp you're very welcome
5:51
to do Mike, you go for it. Is
5:53
there any way in particular that is most effective or...
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It depends on which genie law you subscribe
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to Mike. Okay. Well, I don't know if
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you don't keep it, Steve. You
6:05
don't normally rub the lumps undercarriage. It feels
6:07
indecent to go for this and the sort
6:09
of... Just an uppet did rub the
6:11
tip, but you do what you want. Okay. No, let's
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not... I'll go for the
6:16
sort of the bulbous, fleshy... ...man.
6:18
Oh, no. You
6:26
have to have much more pressure than you most
6:28
probably expect to give a cent-time. Okay.
6:34
I mean, I've seen that maybe 12 times
6:37
now and it's always impressive. I
6:40
think it's quite impressive. I've only ever seen it from that
6:42
side, but... You
6:45
feel it come directly out of the nozzle.
6:47
You've lined it up perfectly. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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That took a lot of practice. Yeah. Lead
6:52
with this part of the... ...where
6:55
your forehead meets your scalp. Yeah. You've
6:57
got to lead with that. Okay. That's
7:00
the pathfinder, is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay.
7:02
So, what would be your... If you
7:05
had to jump out of a lamp... Yeah. ...what would be
7:07
your technique, Mike? Probably go breach. And
7:14
see if anyone came to assist. That's
7:17
the sort of test of friendship. I think her and I would be
7:19
good if you're going to go... ...if I found a genie lamp and
7:21
it was a breach, Chief. You're
7:25
going to be confused. The
7:28
old medical background coming into place right away. Yeah, Mike. Get
7:30
clear of the sign, ignore it. It kicks in then again.
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Yeah. When you were
7:34
a doctor, did you have to give a lot
7:37
of patients, like, dietary advice? Which
7:40
is... It's a food podcast. Sorry, Steve.
7:44
We've jumped from genies into the food quicker than
7:47
normal, I'd say. Yeah. That's why it's so tight.
7:49
It's a long time ago and that would probably
7:51
be more pertinent for stoma care, something like that.
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It's the early... It doesn't tend to get
7:59
most people's juices. flowing you'd
8:01
be surprised okay this crowd
8:03
might like her yeah things you told
8:06
people not to eat do
8:17
you ever have someone come to you who ate so many
8:19
carrots they turned orange that happens i
8:21
haven't had that no that but it's not a real thing i
8:23
mean i think it's sort of technically it might be a real
8:25
thing i haven't i think so i think they'd
8:27
be turned away at the door wouldn't they if
8:30
they what of the hospital i think
8:32
so if an orange so if
8:34
an orange man came to no not
8:36
if an orange man an orange man that
8:38
is more than welcome they see orange people
8:40
all the time right they're so funny okay
8:44
but so if an orange man very rarely because of
8:46
carrots so where at what point
8:48
are you turning this person away then if
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if they're carrying a wheelbarrow full
8:53
of half bean carrot it's your
8:55
imagination that's added that bit okay
8:58
but i think that'll be a reasonable move in the tree and i'll
9:01
just depends how busy it is if there've been any major disasters as
9:05
a rule if the person shows up with
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a wheelbarrow full of the things that of course are their
9:10
own ness yeah would they get turned away well
9:12
like well depends not if it's you know trap
9:14
or something like that it's
9:19
a case by case basis yeah haven't done this
9:22
for a long time do you know what i
9:24
mean but yeah that's why i seem to recall
9:26
you've not you've not been a doctor since the
9:28
time of shrapnel injury there's
9:31
very much a wheelbarrow based car park in
9:34
those days if
9:37
you were well enough to operate the
9:39
barrow you were sent home immediately yeah
9:41
it was rule number one that was
9:43
the big test yeah would
9:46
you call yourself a foodie mike you're a
9:48
foodie i'd like to think of myself as a foodie
9:51
but i don't know what qualifies me to say
9:54
that i'm i mean for example
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i'm not a very good cook i don't
9:58
i don't eat out very much What
10:03
are you eating Mike? Get through
10:06
a lot of cereal. I
10:09
know you like cereal bars. Yeah, or in
10:11
any form. Oh yeah. Bars, beers,
10:13
bowls. The whole thing, however it comes.
10:15
When we were writing on the set
10:18
called Man Down together. Thank
10:20
you. You represent the thing
10:22
less than a finger. Alex,
10:25
I didn't know that one out. Did
10:27
quite well actually. When we were writing
10:29
Man Down, Greg Davis' flat because
10:32
it was very professional. Once
10:35
you turned up really hungover but you didn't want Greg to
10:37
know. Or the way you
10:39
tried to keep it secret is you ate five
10:41
cereal bars in a row. But
10:43
for the rest of the day you walked round
10:45
the flat and every time Greg turned around you
10:47
went, I feel so weird. I
10:54
think I got away with it. The
10:59
life hack then. What's
11:02
the life hack? Eat five cereal bars and you feel
11:04
weird. Yeah, you fix these to the wind the night
11:06
before a big day at work. Five's
11:08
the number. What was
11:11
your go-to cereal bar at the
11:13
time? I mixed it up. That's absolutely pivotal
11:15
guys. You've got to mix it up. I
11:17
think there was just a sort of jumble
11:19
of whatever. I'd sort of got free from
11:22
various backstage areas. So the preceding few
11:24
months sort of dug out of a sort of
11:27
soggy hole at the bottom of a backpack basically. What
11:29
were you talking about? Is there a track in there?
11:31
There might have been. I
11:34
think there was, I mean there
11:36
probably would have been a naked bar. I remember you
11:38
used to love naked bars. You and I really got
11:40
into them at the same time and we had to
11:42
talk about them. Then
11:45
they discontinued the banana crunch. Literally
11:48
the next words out of my mouth were going to
11:50
be, they discontinued the banana crunch. Because
11:52
it hit us both really hard. Yeah. It's
11:55
hard to find a platform to talk about that. Publicly.
11:59
Welcome. And then apparently to the London Palladium.
12:05
We're seeing directly above the ashes of Bruce Forsythe.
12:08
Did you guys know this? Because we told the audience last
12:10
night and they were shocked. The ashes of Bruce Forsythe are
12:13
underneath this stage. Yeah, I'm
12:15
sure he'd be thrilled to know what's going
12:17
on. So
12:19
there's a small alone next to him that contains
12:21
the ashes of the banana coin spice. The
12:24
show's a bit of staple. Yeah,
12:27
correction, it did contain it. Unfortunately you two have been going there
12:30
and snuffled up the ashes. No. Naught
12:32
in it between us. Moving it
12:34
up. I want to know about Mike's
12:36
cooking quickly. Yeah, sorry. So
12:38
you say you're not a very good cook. I'm not
12:41
why. I do cook quite regularly. I've got lots of
12:43
very, very good cooks in my sort of family. Yeah.
12:46
So I've been spoiled. So Mike, I mean, you
12:48
know, there's a family at home. There's people to
12:50
feed. So I do cook. If I cook it
12:52
will be like I will
12:54
cook a piece of meat
12:56
until it is definitely safe to eat. Right.
13:01
And there will be some vegetables that
13:03
are not cooked enough so the nutritional
13:05
value has been lost. So
13:07
there'll be like broccoli and carrots that are
13:10
bloody hard work to get through. With
13:13
a bit of sort of charred fish or lamb or something
13:16
like that. So you're a
13:18
fun dad, is what you mean. A fun dad. Yeah.
13:22
Is that your speciality? Is that your special dish? Have
13:25
you got people coming over and it's your job to cook?
13:27
Are you doing the charred meat and the
13:29
hard veg? Charred meat and hard veg. I mean, I can
13:31
manage a tuna pasta bake, a spag ball. I've
13:34
never moved past the sort of student meals. Yeah.
13:38
But I mean, for example, when I left home the
13:40
first time, I can't remember going back
13:42
from sort of this is sort of in tooting. I was walking
13:44
home. Why
13:47
not? Some
13:49
fans have seen, not the fast time, people
13:51
have been amused by you and tooting, isn't
13:54
it? Lovely.
14:00
Lovely. And I was
14:02
just walking out, yeah, to our little halls of residence
14:06
and just realised that I was hungry and
14:09
kind of had this thought, I remember having this
14:11
thought, I am hungry. What
14:15
normally happens now? And
14:18
realised I had to prepare myself a meal and
14:20
went into Deepak's mini-mark and I
14:22
realised there was nothing stopping me from just
14:25
buying a jumbo pack of bacon. Just
14:28
cutting that and having that for tea. Pack
14:32
of bacon. Pack of bacon. So is
14:34
that your answer to what's your speciality? Yeah. A
14:37
pack of bacon. A
14:39
pack of bacon, sometimes separated, sometimes
14:41
just... Sometimes
14:45
it's nice when it's pink in the middle, isn't it? It's
14:49
different ways of serving it. In
14:51
a wheelbarrow? In a wheelbarrow, yeah. It's a foodie crime, do
14:53
you get it? So you convinced your
14:55
children, you
14:59
mentioned cooking for your family and
15:02
doing the vegetables. One
15:04
of the things that I
15:07
found most impressive, like
15:09
anywhere in life in the world
15:11
that I've seen ever, was
15:13
that you managed to convince your children
15:16
somehow that carrots
15:18
and vegetables were a
15:20
delicious treat. Your
15:23
kids are orange now, aren't
15:25
they? Your
15:27
wife and I picked your children up from school once. I
15:29
don't know where you were. Or
15:34
wherever, I might have needed some cereal
15:36
bars afterwards. Well,
15:39
this is a funny old situation, you and
15:41
my wife picking up their children from school.
15:44
Yeah. Oh, this is
15:47
hanging out. Did you
15:51
know about this, mate? My wife's very
15:53
gregarious, she's very sociable. She
15:56
likes a bit of company, do you know what I mean? I
16:01
wasn't about, I thought James is doing that for.
16:03
Send him down. Send
16:05
him down to Exodus. Walk
16:07
with my wife and pick the kids up. Did
16:10
you hook to dresses Mike to make his children
16:12
feel comfortable? Yes. How are your
16:14
days? They
16:18
don't know, they can't tell.
16:21
They can't tell. I
16:24
remember walking back home and
16:26
there was a little, there was a van that sold
16:28
fruit and veg. It was parked up
16:30
like an ice cream van. Directly
16:32
outside the school gates. Yeah. It was right
16:34
near there, it had loads of fruit and
16:36
veg. Sounds like a really bad pain to
16:38
find. It's
16:41
completely got the wrong end of the stick. Kids
16:44
love carrots I think. I
16:46
can see. As
16:48
soon as I saw the veg van, it
16:50
turned to my wife and my, Mummy,
16:53
please can we have a lovely juicy cat?
16:57
Please Mummy. Mummy really
16:59
begging. And then
17:01
she went, okay, thank you so much.
17:03
And then we're going home eating them like, I'm
17:06
so happy, I'm so happy, I'm so happy. My
17:09
son, delicious, thank you, I'm so happy. You
17:12
can't achieve that without years of
17:14
neglect. It's
17:18
a long game. It's
17:22
only really possible in the southwest as well. I
17:25
think I'm isolated from all advertising and
17:27
other children. Oh God, they've never heard of a
17:29
V&S, no way. No
17:32
happening. Well, we always start with
17:34
still a sparkling water mic. Yeah.
17:36
Do you have a preference? I do, is this
17:39
it? Are we
17:41
in? Yeah, unless you want that to be
17:43
a forewarning, then we can talk about other stuff for a bit and
17:45
come back to it. No, I couldn't tell. Yeah,
17:47
I do have a preference. I always
17:49
go sparkling. Always. Going
17:53
out at a restaurant, I don't get how much at
17:55
all. This for me is enormous, do you know what
17:57
I mean? Yeah. Getting a bit
17:59
of an airing. And it's
18:02
lovely. So it's a bit of a, it's
18:04
a treat anyway. But with
18:06
magical, right, we're in the magical feeling. So
18:09
can I upgrade sparkling to sort of
18:12
fizzy lifting water? We
18:15
go in like from challenge top of the country.
18:17
Fizzy lifting water. Because really, I'm just on my
18:20
own in the restaurant as Harold always imagined. Whatever
18:23
you want. Is that right? If you want that,
18:25
if you want to be alone. Yeah. Yeah,
18:27
yeah. So
18:30
why does the fizzy lifting
18:33
water directly tie into the fact you're alone? Because
18:35
you don't want anyone else to experience the fizzy
18:37
lifting water. Well, two reasons. One is like, I've
18:39
got a bit of time to kill before the
18:42
food comes, right? Yeah. So
18:44
if you've got a bit of time to kill, why not kill it
18:47
flying? And
18:52
secondly, there's obviously, there's the indignity
18:54
of how you dissent with the
18:57
fizzy lifting drink. And I'd rather that was in private.
19:01
We all know what happens when you do things
19:04
like that. Yeah. It's
19:06
a mess, yeah. But they burp,
19:08
don't they? Yeah, they burp. They burp. Yeah.
19:11
They burp. In the book, I think it's, I
19:13
think in the book, even they, I think a
19:15
number lumper dies during the testing process. Oh,
19:18
wow. So
19:23
people remember that. I'm pretty sure a
19:25
number lumper is accidentally, they haven't got the dose
19:27
right, and they accidentally fire an upland into space.
19:31
I don't know why all these wokies have edited
19:34
Roald Dahl. Ha ha ha. Kids
19:36
would love that stuff. Wow,
19:38
all right. I may have misremembered that. The guy's been to
19:40
space in his dinghoes. He's,
19:43
well, I think he's presumed dead. He, well.
19:45
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
19:47
ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
19:49
ha ha ha ha ha. He's launched, he
19:52
passes through outer orbits, and then after, I
19:54
think after that, your chances are
19:56
slim. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
19:59
ha ha ha ha. He conquers the rich guys and he's
20:01
not going to spend any money on trying to get out.
20:03
He's already, yeah, he's got a lot overhead, doesn't he? That's
20:06
the thing, it stacks up. Yeah.
20:11
And he always gave the impression that
20:14
the Inpleumpers were willing, but that's... I
20:18
quite like to see the Inpleumpers' perspective
20:21
on that situation. Do
20:23
you think it will be fun flying for the
20:25
first time completely alone? Do you think it might
20:28
be more fun to fly with other people? Your
20:32
wife and children? Yeah, yeah.
20:34
Because Charlie Buckets is
20:37
his grandpa, isn't he? The
20:39
problem is I'm quite risk averse generally in
20:41
life, so I think if I was with my wife and
20:43
children I'd be worried about one of them going off into
20:45
an electricity pile or something like that, do you know what
20:47
I mean? Or finding
20:50
their way into the wrong end of a Chinook. And I kind of...
20:52
I think I'd go one, at
20:56
least. I'd go so... Yeah,
20:58
that's fine, do you know what I mean? It's nice to
21:00
flesh out what's in your dream restaurant as well, Mike. We've
21:06
got electricity pylons and a Chinook
21:08
flying overhead. Yeah,
21:12
yeah, I very much imagine it on the
21:15
sort of Wiltshire sort of
21:17
armaments testing grounds. But
21:21
revolving, right? It is revolving.
21:23
Yeah, yeah, sure. Yeah, of
21:25
course. Great. Anyone
21:29
want your grandfather to fly with you? What's
21:31
that? Well, Charlie Buckets has
21:33
his grandfather. All right, my grandfather? Well,
21:35
he's long dead, my
21:38
friend. Yeah, but... But this
21:40
is the dream restaurant, Mike. We can bring him back to
21:42
life. But it's not the necromancers' restaurant, is it? Can't be.
21:48
I'm quite happy. I mean, I'm missing, but
21:50
I'm happy to let bygones be bygones. Yeah.
21:58
That would be awful if you brought your grandmother. back
22:00
to life and then he went immediately into the blades of a Chinook.
22:05
It's so great to see you go... Happens
22:12
twice as well, there's two roadways again. Course
22:17
mincing and then fine mincing immediately afterwards. No
22:21
grabbing back. Pobledon
22:32
please. But
22:36
I've got a request slash
22:38
stipulation. That's okay. Absolutely.
22:40
So there was a land
22:43
at my school, I grew up
22:45
in Portsmouth, can I name names?
22:47
Yes. Or do you name names? They do need to beep
22:49
it out? Well, I
22:51
mean, I've lost touch with him but... We
22:54
can't, I will say, we can't beep it
22:56
out live. No? Yeah. End
22:59
of the corner, when this goes down, we can
23:02
beep it out. No, even with three of us, all of
23:04
these people... You'll beep try and beep it for you. Yeah,
23:06
please. Okay. So
23:08
there's this guy called Ben Beeps. Thank
23:11
you. Thank
23:16
you, I can relax now. And
23:21
I think it was him but I may have got that wrong,
23:23
my memory is terrible. So, but
23:25
I think it was him because
23:27
he lived in gospel and he, his
23:30
family were big in the curry scene in gospel. How
23:35
were they big in the curry scene? Well,
23:37
they ate quite a lot of curry. We're
23:44
talking three times a month. A
23:49
lot. Yeah. And
23:52
so he knew the scene. Do you know how I mean gospel is
23:54
just across the water from Poulson's? Yeah.
23:56
So that kind of Poulson's naughty
23:58
little cousin. There
24:01
we go, there you go. And
24:08
another place, yes. Quite
24:10
there by here. But he told me that
24:12
there was a restaurant, a carry house in Gospels,
24:15
where they, I can't remember, it was called
24:17
something like, they served, I think it was called
24:19
something like the
24:21
Maximum Pobodom. Well,
24:27
you wouldn't just go, oh, can we have, oh, how
24:29
many Pobodoms should we have, should we get, should we
24:31
get to, all that kind of discussion. They completely nixed
24:33
that argument by, the
24:36
table you were stuck at, they're all round tables,
24:38
table four appropriate size, two little round table,
24:41
you know, eight big round table. The Pobodom that would
24:43
arrive if you ordered the Maximum Pobodom would be the
24:45
size of the table. Whatever
24:48
table, size table you were on. Yeah, yeah, but
24:50
they'd sit you appropriately was the idea. So the
24:52
table would four be, that sort of size would
24:54
arrive. And that would arrive. And
24:58
I hunted to this place, high and low. I
25:00
never found it. Oh, really? And
25:05
it's only since you asked me on this, I've been
25:07
reminded of that. And I've got a tiny,
25:10
niggling suspicion that
25:13
it might have been bollocks. It's
25:20
the perfect line. How old was his name? His
25:23
name was Ben B. Yeah,
25:26
how old was he? We would have been sort of
25:29
14, some when I was 13. That's
25:31
a bit old to be lying about the Pobodom, isn't
25:33
it? But not out of the, that's what the realms
25:35
of Pobodom were. Well, they're big curry people, I'd say.
25:37
Big curry, big curry family. You know who's big in
25:40
the curry things. He
25:42
might have been lying about that as well. Maybe he
25:44
didn't have three curries a month because that is crazy.
25:50
His whole life could have been an issue of lies, mate. He
25:52
could have kind of associated it, it's true. I
25:57
did find the thing that they were big in curry because I went round and said, house
26:00
at least twice and at least once
26:04
they did order in curry. But
26:07
they weren't ordering in the maximum popular one were they?
26:09
No, it wasn't a take away option that would be
26:11
crazy. On the top of
26:13
the car? Yeah, I don't know. I
26:17
was never gonna make it. Yeah, yeah, for the fly
26:19
off. I think things were in a sort of
26:21
genie staffed restaurant.
26:25
Perhaps we could go. I mean behind you is kind
26:27
of like, I mean that's a beyond
26:29
maximum poppadom. Oh yeah, that's catering
26:31
size isn't it? That's where
26:34
I'm from. It's
26:43
a spirit of breathing man, that's it. So
26:50
you would like the maximum poppadom? Yes please.
26:53
Do you want maximum chutneys with it as
26:55
well? Oh yes please, but I don't know
26:57
where they go because the table's full. You
27:01
could put them on the maximum
27:03
poppadom, dots of different chutneys around the maximum
27:05
poppadom and then like, snap
27:07
them off and work your way in. Like in Jure
27:10
if it? Yeah, that's quite nice. Or
27:12
maybe some sort of nozzles. Like
27:16
hamster? Yeah, so nozzles,
27:19
series of hose pipes. Coming
27:21
down from the ceiling? Yeah,
27:23
or threaded through the pylons. I don't really mind how they get
27:25
it. Is
27:28
the chinook dropping them in? Yeah, maybe they could
27:30
be mortared. You could mortar a mango chutney onto
27:32
the... That
27:34
might be quite fun. Yeah. Stinger
27:38
a lime pickle. Into
27:41
my gob. So
27:44
what speed are these chutneys coming in? Mac
27:47
3? They're
27:50
hard to break the maximum, you know, so you want
27:52
a bit of force to smash up the poppadom a bit.
27:58
And you want to clean up the maximum poppadom all to yourself. It's
28:00
just you. Your dream
28:02
starter, Mike. This
28:06
is quite tricky. I've
28:08
thought about this. Because I have the...
28:11
Well... Well...
28:18
It's sort of an invention in a way. I'm
28:24
calling it the... The
28:27
gudakanufle. What? The
28:31
gudakanufle. Surprise.
28:36
I'm not saying this. Gudakan. So
28:38
you're jumping off point is your
28:40
tiddakan. Yeah? Which you're familiar with. Okay,
28:43
yeah. The tiddakan we know about. Yeah. Ducking
28:46
a chicken in a turkey. Right. The sort of
28:48
stuffing thing. I've never tried. But I don't
28:50
like turkey for me. You're
28:52
joking. I
28:55
can't eat turkey outside of Christmas, otherwise I feel like I'm
28:57
breaking a treaty. I
29:01
would replace the turkey with a goose. Okay. Which
29:04
I think is an establishment. Yeah.
29:07
The gudakanufle. Yes. And
29:10
then it's kind of... So
29:12
yeah, the chicken and the duck and
29:14
the goose. Yeah. And in
29:16
that process, I mean, I'd probably want some
29:19
assurances from the genie way so that that
29:21
sort of stuffing process was... Post-mortem.
29:32
Please. What
29:34
if... For all of them,
29:36
you're the morsel. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But
29:38
what if it happened naturally and we
29:41
found them like that? I
29:43
think that raises more questions than it answers. Really?
29:47
Really. So that, yeah,
29:49
that happens. And then within
29:51
the initial, the sort of
29:54
vanguard chicken, the surprise... I'd
29:57
like a toilet,
29:59
please. A toilet? I'm on my own. Do
30:01
you know what I
30:04
mean? You say the chicken is the
30:06
vanguard. Yeah.
30:11
Does the chicken go in the duck or does the duck go in the chicken? Chicken
30:14
goes in the duck. The duck
30:16
is more than the chicken. Yeah, does it? Mike,
30:19
have you seen that chicken in the duck? It
30:24
goes in the duck. No, but
30:26
it goes turn a duck and doesn't it? Or
30:28
goo duck? So I
30:30
don't think it's about size
30:32
or some sort of wheel, really.
30:42
They came up with a word first and
30:45
then they just had to force a
30:48
chicken into a duck. I think so, yeah. I think
30:51
so. Can't
30:54
call it the chit duck. It doesn't
30:57
work. And then the oo-flay bit, it
30:59
goes like an oo-flay. You got the
31:01
oo-flay. Just, you know,
31:03
wait. I give a souffle it, please. Okay.
31:07
So they're checking in a duck and it goes, you
31:10
have a Kinder Surprise toy. Something here. It could be a
31:12
little toy, a little puddle, anything, really. I don't mind. Like
31:15
a cracker, like a cracker. Yeah, a little Phillips screwdriver
31:17
would be fine. Is
31:20
that your favorite cracker gift? You get a
31:23
lot of use out of it, don't you? Not personally.
31:27
No? The little screwdriver. I use a
31:29
tiny screwdriver all the time. I'm
31:31
going to love imagining that. The thing
31:34
is, if I was you, I would decide. I know
31:36
it's meant to be a surprise. Yeah. But
31:39
if I was you, I wouldn't leave it up to us because
31:42
we're already disappointed that we didn't get to use
31:44
our necromancy earlier. Yeah. I see. So
31:47
you suggested the surprise in the chicken is going
31:49
to be Mike's granddad. Miniaturized,
31:54
mummified. Not miniaturized. It's more
31:56
about will than it is. I
32:04
think Stannis Lab had the kind of grits where he'd be
32:07
up for that challenge. And you
32:09
want it souffle-ed on the outside like a baked Alaska? No,
32:11
I just want it to be the whole thing to be
32:13
sort of magically souffle-ed. What do you
32:15
mean? Well,
32:18
I'm not completely sure, but I
32:23
like the texture of a souffle-ed. But I
32:25
want to sort of, I don't want to spoil my appetite.
32:27
I've already eaten a table-sized
32:29
poppadum. And
32:32
I'm looking forward to sort of a big main course.
32:34
So I think I'd like... I forgot this was your
32:36
starter. Yeah. So I'd quite like it
32:38
to be sort of made sort of bubbly and
32:40
light and get the sort of, you know, the
32:42
taste and the experience. You sort of get the
32:44
layers. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Obviously
32:46
a layered souffle. Yeah. But
32:49
it's goose, chicken. No,
32:51
goose duck chicken all the way down. A
32:54
toy. Yeah, a toy. A
32:56
toy at the bottom of a souffle. Yeah. Yeah.
32:59
Okay. I absolutely make
33:01
that happen to you. Yeah, great. Good dutch
33:03
souffle. Yeah, yeah. Good dutch souffle. Are you
33:05
eating the whole thing? Yeah,
33:08
yeah, because I... I don't know. I'm assuming
33:10
in the magical souffle-ing process it's going to
33:12
reduce to a degree, isn't it? Oh,
33:15
that's interesting. I'm imagining a souffle... A
33:19
souffle the size of a sort of... Like
33:21
a carpenter's fist. That sort
33:24
of size. Yeah. Decent
33:27
hand. Healthy. Yeah, yeah. Healthy
33:30
clump. Yeah, yeah. Have
33:32
you ever... When you were a doctor, did you have to study a carpenter's fist
33:34
at any point? I mean, they're
33:37
very rare to come in, those guys. Halen
33:39
Harpy. Just the old Nick
33:41
and Callis, that's it. So it's... It's
33:45
the platonic ideal for the fist, really. Not
33:52
afraid, I thought we'd heard him. But it's the sonic ideal of
33:54
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Your dream main course, Mike. This
35:33
is quite tricky. Oh,
35:36
I bet it is. But
35:39
it does need some genie help. Oh,
35:41
yeah? It'd be nice
35:43
for you to finally use the
35:46
genie in this meal, Mike. Well, I've got a backup dish. It's
35:49
required there's a backup dish. But the main
35:51
dish is... I
35:54
want to make sure that I'm
35:56
not I want what they're having,
35:58
please. Why
36:04
I mean by that is when I do, I don't go out to
36:06
restaurants very often and I do have a nice old time and I
36:08
try and be a good boy and I try and be... You
36:12
try and be a good boy? I try
36:14
and be a good, brave boy and I
36:16
try and, you know, it's important to try
36:18
new things, yes? So, you know, if
36:20
there's something I don't know what it is, I'll normally, I'll give
36:22
it a go, that kind of stuff and
36:25
I'll make the order and I think, great, I'll
36:27
have a little experiment, see what that is, you
36:29
know, I'm quite happy
36:31
to buy a pig and a poke, basically, when
36:33
it comes to a restaurant. What? I'm
36:36
quite happy to buy a pig and a poke. A pig
36:39
and a poke? A pig and a poke. Okay.
36:41
Yeah? Yeah, yeah. But
36:44
I'll order. Hang on. Well...
36:47
I just assume it's a phrase. Well,
36:50
yeah, but what? What?
36:54
It's a well-established phrase, no? Thank
36:57
you. That's five people in 2000.
37:00
Like, um, buying a pig and a poke. Just
37:04
repeat the phrase, by all means. So,
37:09
normally, you don't want to buy a pig and a poke. So,
37:12
it would normally be used... Mike, we do not
37:14
know what a pig and a poke is. What
37:19
is a pig and a poke? Well, the pig, the pig
37:21
is standard, pig, pig is the pig. Got
37:24
it. Not your cat? No, it is
37:26
called pig. It's called pig, a pig. Yes. And
37:29
a poke, I think, was like a sort of bang or something. So, it
37:31
would be the idea of buying a pig. In
37:34
a bang? In the olden times. Yeah,
37:36
I see. It must have been a
37:38
problem at some stage, where
37:42
pig mongers were going around the place, door
37:45
to door and saying, do you want to buy
37:47
a pig? Yeah, I'm interested in a pig. How
37:49
much for the pig? Five-er. Here
37:51
you go. It's in this poke. And
37:54
then they'd give you the poke, you know,
37:56
which had some weight to it, and you'd get in and you'd... open
38:00
up your poke thinking, oh great, we've got a pig now,
38:02
that's great news, and there'd just be,
38:04
you know, rocks. There'd
38:06
be rocks, there'd be some wet straw,
38:10
a broken
38:14
palette of cereal bars, but
38:18
there would be no pig, and
38:21
the pig salesman would be
38:23
long gone. So the advice would be don't buy
38:25
a pig in a park. It's a cautionary tale,
38:27
it would have been a cautionary tale and another
38:29
cautionary tale that eventually became, you
38:31
know, an idiom. But
38:34
you're using the idiom to say you do want to
38:36
buy a pig in a poke. I am assuming that
38:38
advice, yeah. Yeah, but you're comparing this to being in
38:40
a restaurant, yeah, and
38:43
while you're in a, you will buy a pig in
38:45
a poke. Yeah. You will order something
38:47
knowing that it is not what it says it
38:49
is on the menu, and
38:51
then it's a plate of wet straw. I'm
38:55
willing to take that risk, yes. And
38:57
I would also take the risk of, if there was a main course where it
39:00
was just, you know, mystery
39:02
poke, you know. It's
39:04
pronounced, Mike has pronounced poke. Okay,
39:07
okay. Mystery bag of
39:09
food, then I'd probably go, I'll go for
39:12
the mystery bag of food please. So you'll
39:14
just, yeah, okay, I'll get it now. You
39:16
mean you'll just roll the dice. I want
39:18
to be surprised, I wish to be surprised normally.
39:20
But you don't want to be tricked by the
39:22
pigman. No, I mean in day-to-day life, no, but
39:25
I mean I'm willing to take the risk in
39:27
a restaurant setting that I'm not
39:29
going to be presented with a plate of wet straw.
39:34
But the first thing you said was your
39:36
main course is you'll have what they're having.
39:38
Yes. Even though you did specify at the
39:40
beginning that you will be alone for this
39:42
meal. That's
39:45
true. But the there is what they had. What they
39:47
had. You want what they had.
39:54
I want that. When
40:00
I do order the thing, whatever the thing
40:02
may be, like enough time has
40:04
passed that you can't change, but
40:06
then almost every time I go to a restaurant, five
40:09
minutes after the time has passed to change
40:11
your order, like the kitchen doors are booted
40:13
open. All of
40:15
the staff have been corralled to
40:18
deliver this dish to another
40:20
table, and there are flames
40:22
gushing from everywhere, steam, smoke,
40:24
sirens, everyone's ooing, and someone breaks out into the
40:26
national anthem. It's that level of like the fuss,
40:30
you know, the sort of burning griddle pans, people with
40:32
special gloves, all this kind of stuff is happening.
40:34
Trolleys, things are on wheels, things are coming down
40:36
from the ceiling. Space, like
40:39
tables being kicked out, we just make enough space
40:41
for this extraordinary dish, and everyone's
40:43
applauding, and that's, I mean, I
40:46
want that, what's that? Oh, yes. Please,
40:56
I've never heard that. I've never succeeded.
40:58
I've never read on the menu, there's no
41:00
clue on the menu that this, that
41:03
there will be a fanfare. Usually for
41:05
heaters. And
41:08
that's normally a face mask, if you want that sort of thing,
41:10
Mike. For heaters and a poke.
41:12
Or a birthday cake. Okay. So
41:15
maybe it's for heaters then. Yeah. You
41:21
want one there, Had, we know that. I want one there,
41:23
yeah. They do the most possible. Uncle Phil does good
41:26
for heaters. So do
41:28
Uncle Phil there? From first friends. You
41:35
and cousin Carlton enjoy those? You've
41:38
got quite, when you danced on, you had real
41:40
Carlton energy actually. Yeah, you couldn't, yeah.
41:43
That's a shame. Well, come on,
41:45
Mike, you didn't know how I knew. You were well, did you? No. We
41:48
all like to think that we've got a bit of
41:51
willingness, don't we? We
41:53
didn't walk on and slap us. Different
41:59
on good. an Uncle Phil. Doesn't
42:01
mean for Ethan. But
42:03
yeah, I mean, I would say if you know what that is, if
42:05
it's not for Ethan, it's more interesting. I mean, the full bottom, I
42:07
mean, quite, be quite happy to just have a Lancashire hotpot with a
42:10
sparkle in it. But
42:13
you want that presentation, you want that presentation. Yeah,
42:15
and again, it's not, I don't want this sort
42:17
of, I mean, I don't have to have the
42:19
reaction. Yeah. Because I'm on my own, that's fine. I'm not,
42:21
I'm not trying to sort of, you know, sort of draw attention.
42:24
I just want, just want to want to experience that. Oh
42:26
my God, here it comes, moments. I
42:29
want there to be the genuine jeopardy
42:31
that I could burn myself to
42:33
the point where I'm unrecognizable. Just
42:37
from the delivery of the dish,
42:39
just from judging it wrong, just from trying
42:41
to clear that mustard pot out of the
42:44
way to be helpful. And being sort
42:47
of seared, stuck to the side of a four
42:51
foot griddle pan, you know, becoming part of the dish.
42:53
Do you know what I mean? I want that
42:56
chance, you know, for someone to have a scrape
43:00
of a crispy mike skid and tell
43:03
me what it was like. Is there plenty for heaters that you're
43:05
talking about? Is there be? Yeah. Uncle
43:08
Phil's, please. Where's Uncle
43:10
Phil's? What's that? Where's Uncle Phil's?
43:12
What is Uncle Phil's? It's
43:16
quite how Uncle Phil lives, Ed. Hang on, is it
43:18
a restaurant or is it your Uncle Phil? Neither.
43:24
But it is a man. It is my
43:27
brother-in-law. Your brother-in-law? And you call your brother-in-law
43:29
Uncle Phil? Been
43:31
known to. Sometimes
43:34
we squish that into Funkle for
43:36
a bit of fun. That is
43:38
funny. He is a fun guy. So
43:41
when Funkle does his
43:44
for heaters, is there the fanfare? Does he bring them
43:46
out on the sizzling platter? There will
43:48
be sizzle. I don't know.
43:50
It's not the level of sizzle and
43:53
flames and all that stuff that I'm
43:55
after. He will be more
43:57
likely to compensate with the visual
43:59
factor. fair with some
44:01
choice swearing. So
44:06
there is, it's an event, it's definitely an event.
44:10
But it's not, it's not, yeah, it's not kicking through
44:12
the swing doors kind of. I get what you mean,
44:15
you're anticipating it, when the fungal brings it out you
44:17
know that they're coming out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
44:19
This is what we're doing for heaters tonight. Yeah. Here
44:22
they are. Fuck, cunt, whatever he's saying. Yeah. And
44:25
then like, and then like, when you're in the... He
44:30
gave it a go, it might work for the guys up there maybe if it's
44:33
sort of... Depending
44:35
on the sound trajectory. Yeah. But
44:38
you want to be not expecting it, you're
44:40
in a restaurant, you hear it. Yeah. And
44:42
then you see it and you get jealous. Yeah. Do
44:45
you want the Chinook pilot to be looking
44:47
over and being like, what's he got? I
44:49
want the Chinook pilot to be on standby
44:51
because he needs to be, the whole Chinook
44:53
crew, they need to be carrying a sort of
44:55
you know, an 18,000
44:57
litre vat of water over the top of
44:59
the restaurant in case of a catastrophe. In
45:01
case you get stuck to the griddle. Yeah,
45:04
yeah. If you do get stuck
45:06
to the griddle. Yeah. Are you going to
45:08
carry on with the rest of the meal? Because
45:10
you seem quite excited by the notion of,
45:12
I believe your phrase was becoming part of
45:14
the dish. Yeah. Yeah,
45:17
I carry on absolutely regardless. Because you became
45:19
part of the dish. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
45:22
You said you had a backup dish. I'm very happy
45:24
with it. Languish it in your hot pot with the
45:26
sparkle in it. Please. Is that the backup dish? That's
45:28
the backup dish, yeah. Lovely. Yeah, a
45:30
couple of sparkles. How do you get some offal going? Position
45:32
a sparkle in your languish it. Good
45:34
question. Hot pot, is that, is it
45:37
fairly solid? In
45:39
my mind it's not. I think the,
45:42
and forgive me if I'm wrong, but I think
45:44
the other potato layer is going to handle that.
45:46
And you've got, beneath
45:49
the potato layer you've got hopefully, hopefully
45:51
a very, very dense, thick collection
45:54
of lambs,
45:57
kidneys, other bits of lamb,
45:59
miscellaneous lamb. We're an adhesive gravy
46:01
and I think that's
46:03
gonna plant very nicely in that. I
46:06
think you could even put a few in and some of
46:08
them could even be a sconce and you'd be okay. Yeah,
46:12
I think so. Because there's so much offal
46:14
in there. The chances of a
46:16
sparkler going through are not hitting a bit
46:18
of offal before it hits the bottom of
46:20
a slim aren't they? Yeah, I
46:22
think a kidney would be quite a good little anchor
46:25
for the ballast. Yeah, I think so. The
46:27
thing is with the sparklers once they've gone out, you
46:30
still can't approach it can you? What?
46:34
Well you shouldn't go back... Okay, well I... Hang
46:38
on, hang on. Can I... well then I'll request
46:40
maybe the genie brings the
46:42
Lancashire hot pot with sparklers and
46:45
as well as my fork can I have some
46:47
sort of gauntlet please? Yeah.
46:50
To remove the... yeah. What do you mean James? Well
46:52
you should never go back to one. Oh.
46:55
Once it's been lit. I believe the phrase is don't
46:57
go back to a lit firework and I... I
47:01
don't think sparklers count. Yeah. You
47:04
should never go back to them. In
47:07
Kessering all the recreational grounds are just covered in
47:10
layer upon layer of abandoned sparklers. It's all metal
47:12
parts now isn't it? Yeah. You can't go in.
47:14
Yeah, we never go back to a lit spot.
47:16
We never go back to the lit spot. How
47:18
do you hold it? Aren't you supposed to light
47:20
a sparkler and then hold it? Are you just
47:22
lighting the sparkler and then immediately throwing it away?
47:24
Yeah, that's when it becomes dangerous. It's all fine. There's
47:27
someone lights it and then you've just got to let go of everyone. And
47:31
never go back to it. I
47:34
like the fajitas choice mate. Okay. It's a lovely
47:36
choice. It's what it turned out to be. But are there other
47:38
things? I mean is that... is that... there's nothing else you recognise
47:40
as that? You eat out a lot don't you? You
47:43
do? Is there? Nothing
47:45
that I recognise from your exact description. Maybe
47:49
like a dish where like in a fancy
47:51
restaurant they might bring it and there's a
47:53
cloche. There's a cloche or a
47:55
glass dome or something like that. And
47:57
they'll... together all of the waiters will do it.
48:00
this and then they'll whip the cloche off and
48:02
there's smoke, smoke billows. It says like back draft.
48:07
It's back draft. It's actually the answer to that. Yeah,
48:10
yeah. It's experience. They'll normally
48:12
play pin smoke but in
48:14
the kitchen. Some sort
48:16
of like woody smoke. Okay. And
48:19
then they'll lift it up and the smoke dissipates
48:21
and makes absolutely no difference to the
48:23
flavour of the dish. Okay. You know what I
48:25
enjoyed just then Mike? Yeah. Was
48:28
watching you listen to Ed describe something that
48:30
is actually real. As if what
48:32
Ed was saying was fucking bonkers. So
48:35
are you saying that was real?
48:37
That is real. That's the real thing. Yeah.
48:40
Is that a real thing? Yes. What?
48:44
Well for that theatre that you're talking about that
48:47
you enjoy, that's what you wanted, wasn't it? That
48:49
sort of thing? I don't know. That seems a
48:52
bit sneaky to me. What's
48:54
sneaky about that? Because I don't
48:56
think I want to be delivered a cloche
48:59
of smoke. There's
49:02
other food in there. They're
49:04
not going like enjoy your dinner.
49:08
Fuck you, it's just smoke. Okay. There's
49:11
other food, there's food in there. Okay fine. And
49:13
the smoke's been piped in and it's just like a magical
49:16
way of presenting it. Okay. So the
49:18
smoke can affect the flavour sometimes? The smoke
49:20
can affect the flavour sometimes, yeah. Okay.
49:22
It's normally dispersed, right? It would
49:24
be bad if I agree. I think I want the journey. I think I
49:27
want to see them coming. Yeah. That
49:29
feels like an ambush. Right. Do you
49:31
know what I mean? Yeah. I
49:33
want to see the, yeah, I want to
49:35
see the whites of their eyes.
49:37
I don't know. It's not the right phrase. Yeah.
49:41
It's quite a sort of military
49:43
meal generally so far, isn't it? It's
49:45
turning out that way, isn't it? Yeah. I'm
49:48
worried that the Chinook's person, when
49:51
someone's really burst out of the kitchen, is
49:53
basically attacking you, some old
49:55
train that might kick in. It's
49:58
a risk, isn't it? But then you've got to... being
50:00
attacked has actually just been served some phases and very
50:05
badly damaged Chinook pilots attacked one of the
50:07
way since you know
50:09
spit chat fuel isn't it? RIP
50:12
and cofil. Your
50:15
drinks side dish Mike? Alpha
50:19
bites please. A
50:23
lot of fans have had alpha bites then? Never allowed
50:25
them. To this day?
50:29
Well still never quite dared to pick them out
50:31
of the old freezer. It
50:33
was deeply ingrained. Yeah. Taboo.
50:38
So yeah I think this is to the next
50:40
of note. So
50:43
I've never had alpha bites either but I have
50:45
a request that I... Are they potato? Yeah
50:47
yeah. Basically
50:49
chips, alphabet shaped chips. I've
50:52
never had them either. Have you not? No. Who's
50:56
had alpha bites? That
50:58
was good chance. A shit. Footy
51:04
Adamments. Didn't think it
51:06
was that sort of gig. Our
51:09
listeners get pretty rowdy Mike. Especially
51:12
when it comes to alpha bites. It sounds like
51:14
yeah. I do apologise. But
51:16
I'm going to stick to my guns. Would
51:18
you spell some things out with the alpha bites
51:20
before you ate them? Would you have fun with them? I
51:23
think it's great fun to be had isn't it? Yeah. What
51:25
sort of things would you spell? Maybe
51:27
some rude words. Go
51:30
on. We can spell
51:32
it out one letter at a time. So we can visualise it on the
51:34
plate. Would you want to
51:36
be it out? Letter by letter.
51:40
Bum. Do you know what I mean?
51:42
There's options. Would you start with bum
51:44
would you? Start
51:46
with bum. I work my way up. Every
51:51
so often Mike I remember that you're having this meal alone. Bum.
51:57
Looking around. Down
52:01
the way around the floor. With his one
52:03
good eye, the best of it. Chin
52:09
up helicopter pilot having a panic attack in the
52:11
corner. Are
52:15
you dipping it in anything, the alphabites? Oh
52:18
yeah, yeah, they're very much the... Well, it
52:20
depends on what the dish is. Like if
52:22
it's back up Lancashire hotpot, then I'll be dipping it in the old
52:24
gravy. Yeah. Big
52:27
time. If it's the... Well,
52:31
is it for heaters? So
52:34
heaters was the other choice. I think I'm fulfilled for
52:36
heaters, but what they're having. Yeah.
52:39
Oh yeah, what they're having. I'll
52:42
probably risk popping the
52:44
letter C in a bit of quack. See
52:48
what happens. Is
52:50
that the best of jet quip, do you reckon, the letter C? I
52:52
think so, because you've got to hook with it, do you know what
52:55
I mean? Yeah, yeah. Do
52:58
you think in the alphabites, because none of us have had
53:00
them, do you think they include the letter L, or is
53:03
that just too similar to a chip? The
53:05
lower case L. Yeah. Lower case
53:07
L. These are capitals, you might. These are the
53:09
case. I've
53:11
never had them. How
53:14
in the name of God are they going to do a lower case I? Just
53:20
chuck it all in. Madness, madness.
53:25
Well, he got you mad. You've
53:27
been burned. I'm happy to learn. He
53:29
just got burned by Wozniak and the Palladium. I
53:32
got burned by the most burned man we've ever had on
53:34
the podcast. Well,
53:37
I guess. Same question with a cap at the
53:39
line, right? Yeah. Is
53:41
that just like a normal chip? Or
53:44
are they putting those bits in the top and bottom? Oh yeah, they're
53:46
putting the bits on. Fucking do it, Mike. He
53:49
thought it was just going to be a straight eye. Fucking
53:51
happen. I'm trying to
53:53
help you. It's going to be like that, isn't
53:55
it? You idiot. Look at this cunt. It
53:59
ain't. He just got into some bad fonts, do
54:01
you know what I mean? I thought... I
54:04
thought... Wrong crowd, wrong
54:06
fonts. Yeah. He didn't
54:08
know any better. So it
54:10
doesn't bother you that they're shit apparently. No,
54:14
I don't mind eating shit from time to time.
54:18
I think we have sometimes sort of great comfort
54:20
from eating total crap and I
54:22
think in a way it may be the
54:24
fact that they've been sort of... Well,
54:28
for want of a better term,
54:30
or lust objects. There are
54:33
better terms. Yeah. I
54:35
think we can definitely find better terms. That letter
54:37
always been in there, but how about now? It's
54:41
more a matter of whale, isn't it? Yeah.
54:46
Oh, he will. I
54:49
think there's something fundamentally wrong with
54:51
him. I think that it'll
54:53
feel like it's a vice. It'll feel all the
54:56
more exciting if they're a
54:58
bit of work. If they need a lot of
55:00
sound cream or guac or... If
55:02
I've got to reactivate the nozzles from earlier on
55:04
and... From
55:06
firing everything at it. Yeah. Then
55:10
I'll be like, okay, Mum, you were right. Are
55:13
you going to rub it in your parents' faces that you're
55:15
eating them? Are you going to be like... No, they've got
55:17
enough of them, they're playing to me. They worry enough.
55:21
Do you know what I mean? Where do you
55:23
stand on potato smileys? Because they're essentially the same
55:25
thing, I guess, right? Yes.
55:29
For reasons that aren't clear to me, I
55:31
realise now they didn't cross the line of...
55:34
The forbidden potato products line.
55:37
So you used to have potato smileys? Rarely,
55:40
but it did come up. So
55:44
your parents... I'm wondering
55:46
why they were allowed, whereas the
55:48
letters were... They're left to time-conceive.
55:51
The letters you're going to get distracted. You
55:54
start smelling words, doing stuff. The
55:56
smiley faces. A bunch of them
55:58
seem one. That's it, innit? Yeah,
56:01
surely parents should be encouraging literacy
56:03
shouldn't they? True, unless,
56:05
yeah, I can't really think what the scenario would
56:07
be. I mean, yeah, if it was a necromancy
56:09
based restaurant, yes, then you don't want people to
56:12
come just certain, like, letters and you don't want
56:14
to be able to Ouija board your side plate,
56:16
do you? A
56:19
potato, smiley Ouija board. Yeah, but that
56:22
wasn't happening, so I don't know what the explanation is.
56:24
But yeah, but I'm more on the Todd, so I
56:26
think I'll go for the letters. Yeah. A
56:28
bit more diverting. One of every letter. No,
56:32
I think I'm going to want a few spare
56:34
vowels. Please. Yeah.
56:40
I'm happy to go with just one of
56:42
J, X, Y and so on,
56:44
because I think I'm going to want a banana gram at some
56:46
point. Do you know what I mean? I don't want to rush
56:48
the evening. And I'm hoping because they're
56:50
sort of, because it is the genie element, they're not going to
56:52
go cold. You can serve them
56:55
on a hot plate at the very least, can you? On
56:57
a hot plate? Well, not really. I
57:00
mean, do you want
57:03
me to sit this course out and make sure Riley
57:05
can serve these to you? You
57:07
can ask for consonants and vowels
57:09
to your house content. I'll stick with the genie. I'll stick
57:12
with the genie. Yeah, well, Riley, can you hear this? Oh,
57:14
come on, man. Voderman, every time. Sorry.
57:17
Of course, Voderman. You're getting Voderman in for this.
57:19
Yeah. All right, all right.
57:21
We'll Voderman it. Well,
57:25
the option of Voderman, if I'm feeling tasty,
57:27
if I'm on good form with the lettuce,
57:30
then we can conjure Voderman to
57:33
throw down the gauntlet. But otherwise, yeah, I
57:35
think I'll just carry on just playing with
57:37
the hot, salty fat. You
57:41
dream drink, Mike. That's tricky. Well,
57:43
it depends. This depends again. What did we
57:45
settle on? Did we settle on the griddle? I'm
57:48
going to go for a drink. I'm going to go for
57:50
a drink. Back-up Lancashire hot pot, I'd go for a pint
57:52
of old thumper. No? Don't allow it.
57:55
I'm not shaking my head because you can't have it. I'm shaking
57:57
my head because I've never heard of a pint of hot pot.
58:00
Oh right, and it sounds like the sort of thing
58:02
you would make up for. We're now in a world
58:04
where we accept these things. At the
58:06
start of the gig I was questioning stuff
58:08
like picking a pope, and now I'm just
58:11
accepting that a pint of old thumper is
58:13
a thing. Ringwood
58:15
breweries. Yes. I think it
58:18
was the first kind of pint of bitter that I had
58:20
really. In the little pub where we used to go to
58:22
where, in that era when you're trying to
58:24
get served and all that kind of
58:26
stuff. People were going for
58:28
ales because they thought it seemed more convincing
58:30
that they were older. That
58:32
thing yeah? Yeah. They wanted the
58:34
ice cold lager but they were like I'll have a pint
58:37
of the old thumper because they thought it was incredible that
58:39
therefore they were 52 years old. And
58:42
didn't need to be ID. Wearing
58:45
a cardigan, going in. From the
58:47
few occasions we were served everyone else would be like.
58:52
Trying to get through it. I was sitting
58:54
there going I think this is delicious. And
58:58
I think even as a sort of 17
59:01
year old boy I didn't realise at the
59:03
time I realised now I was already inhabited
59:05
by the spirit of a middle aged man. Yeah.
59:09
So that's and it would go very well with the hot
59:11
pot if that's happening. I mean if it's
59:14
the flambé spectacular just
59:18
give me an oozer. Literally
59:23
chucking fuel on the fire. Taste
59:27
of holiday isn't it? Oozer. It
59:29
is. Yeah I guess so. Very specific.
59:32
I've never had it. No? No.
59:35
I remember the insane clown posse used to drink it.
59:37
Did they? That's what I know about Oozer. Don't they
59:39
have their own drink though the insane clown posse? Maybe
59:41
now. Called Faygo. What
59:44
is that? Is there only a... Is it so? What
59:47
is it? Juggalo in the audience saying yes.
59:50
What is it? Pure sugary filth. Pure
59:52
sugary filth. I think it's a very very sugary
59:55
alcoholic drink. It's called Faygo. Do you know the
59:57
insane clown posse Mike? I
1:00:02
mean, very surprised if you did, to be honest.
1:00:04
I can't imagine you and the posse ever crossing
1:00:06
paths. What kind of acts are we talking about?
1:00:09
Guess. Guess what the insane clown
1:00:11
posse is. I'm
1:00:13
going to say neo-folk
1:00:16
punk fusions. Electric
1:00:19
accordion. They
1:00:21
probably do that, no? They're a white rap
1:00:24
group, but they paint their faces like sort of
1:00:26
evil clumes. And all
1:00:28
of their fans are called juggalos,
1:00:31
and they just get quite drunk and violent. But they
1:00:33
don't drink, as far as I'm aware, ouzo. Well,
1:00:38
that's what I knew about them when I was a
1:00:40
teenager. I read an interview with the insane clown posse,
1:00:43
and they said that they drank ouzo a lot. OK.
1:00:47
And then I was quite surprised when I was
1:00:49
older, and they released a song about how lovely
1:00:51
miracles are and how they believe in God. Yeah,
1:00:54
they had a swerve later on in their career. It's
1:00:57
a rap about all the lovely things. But still
1:01:00
does the fancy dress rap. Yeah, yeah. But
1:01:02
rapping about how amazing all the things in the world
1:01:04
are. They sound like a lovely bunch of boys. It's
1:01:08
a really funny song. Yeah,
1:01:10
they say, aren't they? They
1:01:13
say, aren't they seeing miracles every day?
1:01:15
Yeah. And they
1:01:17
say, it's really good. They're like the miracle
1:01:19
of a rain moment. Are
1:01:22
those the miracles? Do you like that? They're not. You
1:01:26
know about ouzo? Apparently, ouzo, when you
1:01:28
drink it, crystallizes in your stomach. So
1:01:31
the next day, you drink water, and it re-dilutes it, and
1:01:33
you get drunk again the next day. Definitely
1:01:36
bollocks. What's
1:01:38
the name of the boy who told you that? Why
1:01:42
is that bollocks, Mike? Because
1:01:44
it's just absolutely ironclad
1:01:47
bollocks. It's
1:01:50
not just going to sit in your, well, how's it going to do that?
1:01:54
You're in a state of constant sloughing. What?
1:01:57
Beg your pardon. Speak for yourself, mate. A
1:02:00
bit of constant sluffing. Yeah. Is
1:02:02
that another beer? Boiling away. Roiling
1:02:05
acids and sloughed
1:02:08
linings. Don't stand a chance. Sloughed
1:02:11
linings? Yeah. Never
1:02:14
felt more uncomfortable about my own body ever. I
1:02:18
could have broken that one gently, couldn't I?
1:02:21
How was your bedside manner when you were a doctor? Well,
1:02:26
I did have to leave the profession. You
1:02:30
kept on bringing up sluffing every time people came
1:02:32
in. It wasn't appropriate. Yeah. This
1:02:34
is difficult now. So I want you to have the
1:02:36
pint of old something. Yeah. But that would mean you'd
1:02:38
have to have the Lancashire hotpot. And I want you
1:02:40
to have what they're having. Well, let's settle. I'll
1:02:44
lock it in. I'll have
1:02:47
what they're having. And I'll risk
1:02:51
sinking it down with a little Uzo, despite
1:02:54
the naked flames. Do you want the insane
1:02:56
clown posse to be with you drinking the Uzo? Happy
1:03:00
for them to be coming through the speakers. Sounds
1:03:05
unfriendly, doesn't it? And you have to describe it. They do sound
1:03:07
like a lovely group of boys. Yeah. Yeah. I'm
1:03:10
being very selfish. They can drive you to the main
1:03:12
course. Yeah. It's a group. It's a
1:03:14
group meal, isn't it? What we're talking about. That amount of smoke.
1:03:16
You can't eat that on your own. You can't have figs. There's
1:03:18
going to be poppadom left over. Yeah, yeah. Bring them in. Bring
1:03:21
them in. Bring them in. Yeah, actually, it
1:03:23
would blow their mind, because they love miracles. Yeah.
1:03:25
If they came in, they see
1:03:27
the giant poppadom. They see you, busy
1:03:29
lifting drinks, flying around. Yeah. You've
1:03:32
somehow got a chicken in a duck.
1:03:34
Yeah. So revolving. They've got to be
1:03:37
like so many miracles. Yeah. One
1:03:39
of them is bound to need a mini screwdriver. Yeah.
1:03:43
I do feel like you should have a pint of Old Thumper,
1:03:45
though. Because it was a lovely story. Could you
1:03:47
have a pint of Old Thumper, as well? We arrived at
1:03:49
your drink dessert, Mike. It's very exciting.
1:03:52
I'm kind of anticipating more genie magic
1:03:54
here. Am I right? Yeah.
1:03:58
Yeah. for
1:04:00
pudding please, because I have, I would
1:04:02
like, well it goes by many names. Okay.
1:04:09
But some people would call it the peace of shame. Some
1:04:13
people? Yeah. Some people would call it
1:04:16
the decency slice. Are
1:04:18
you familiar with this, any of you? One
1:04:20
person. I
1:04:22
think the Germans would call it the, the, the, the, the, the,
1:04:24
the, the, the, the, the, something like that. Dutch
1:04:28
something very similar. Yeah, okay. I think
1:04:30
in the Philippines it's, it's the peace of shame. It
1:04:33
is of shame. It's the last bit of cake. We're all
1:04:35
very relieved that that's what they call it in the Philippines.
1:04:37
Yeah. It's
1:04:40
the last bit of cake, for whatever it is.
1:04:42
Yeah. It's the last bit of
1:04:45
a table on the, the plates, whatever it may be. Yeah.
1:04:48
Every, everyone wants, but no one, you know,
1:04:50
it feels shameful to, like it has a
1:04:53
name. We don't have that here, a name
1:04:55
for it, but there are many nations where
1:04:57
they, they have a name for it
1:04:59
because it's a thing, because it's so alluring. And
1:05:02
I, I, I understand that allure. Yeah.
1:05:06
I feel like I'm going to be quite burdened up. Unless
1:05:12
I've had a bit, a bit too
1:05:14
much post-crystallized Uzo. I
1:05:20
will never go for the peace of shame. And
1:05:22
I just, I just want, just once, just once.
1:05:24
I don't mind what it is particularly. It could
1:05:26
be any kind of, it will require the genie
1:05:29
to take the revolving restaurant somewhere where I mean,
1:05:32
it's a bit intrusive. It does require us to
1:05:34
sort of track the beam out someone's cake from
1:05:36
a sort of family occasion. Anniversary,
1:05:40
wedding, something. Yeah.
1:05:45
If we could do that discreetly, I don't think that's a job
1:05:47
for the Chinook. I think that's one for the genie. Yeah.
1:05:50
I can do that. I mean, is
1:05:52
it, is that, so there's a shame in this sense
1:05:55
coming from the fact that you have tried to beam it
1:05:57
away from a family. Obviously,
1:06:01
there's not people around. And
1:06:03
there's not the shame of taking that long. It needs to be
1:06:05
active. The events still need
1:06:07
to be ongoing. For
1:06:10
the piece of shame to be habits
1:06:12
allure, there needs to be people almost
1:06:14
hovering around, kind of licking
1:06:16
their lips. Did that again?
1:06:18
Sort of like this. Sort
1:06:22
of stalking it a little bit, maybe
1:06:24
sort of approaching it and then noticing
1:06:26
that Uncle Gilbert's also stalking it. And
1:06:28
then Marjorie's also interested in, you know,
1:06:32
Cathy's picking off a couple of crumbs here and
1:06:34
there. So we're not
1:06:37
just like bringing the cake
1:06:39
in from another occasion. We're bringing some of
1:06:41
the guests as well. The
1:06:44
guests are pivotal. We need to see the
1:06:46
guests. I don't want to intrude. But
1:06:49
you need to intrude for this to be the piece of
1:06:51
shame, don't you? Yeah, okay. So, well,
1:06:54
the restaurant, we've backtracked a little bit then. So the
1:06:57
restaurant is gonna need to be this sort of mobile,
1:07:00
sort of translucent orb.
1:07:03
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! So
1:07:05
that's all right? Yeah, yeah. Quick and
1:07:08
retro for that. Yeah, absolutely. Sort
1:07:10
of glass bottoms. We
1:07:14
then need to be able to see
1:07:16
through the roof and the ceiling and
1:07:18
whichever bedrooms or bathrooms are sort
1:07:20
of impeding the view into the
1:07:22
kitchen or the dining area. You're
1:07:24
sort of floating over a village.
1:07:27
Floating over a village. This is
1:07:29
like... Sort of in a glass elevator, really. Yeah.
1:07:32
So, for one thing again, yeah. Also a
1:07:34
bit giant peachy. Yeah. Bit giant
1:07:36
peachy. Very dull. The whole thing's very dull. And
1:07:39
we need to, yeah, we need to be able to sort of,
1:07:41
yeah, sort of seeing, yeah, we need to make that, I mean,
1:07:44
it'd be ideal to be able to, I don't want to sort
1:07:46
of blast a hole through these people's, like
1:07:48
they've worked hard for their house. Do you know what I mean? It's
1:07:52
important to bear in mind. And
1:07:55
getting laborers out to fix it. So, they might
1:07:57
be waiting for months. They'd be having a... a
1:08:00
bit of tarp over the roof and it's not going to do with
1:08:02
this weather. Do
1:08:04
you know what house you're going to or are you
1:08:06
just floating over a village hoping that some people are
1:08:08
eating a cake and there's one slice left? The
1:08:12
second one. Because
1:08:14
we could make it easier for you because you're
1:08:16
getting tied up in that they've worked hard for
1:08:19
the house. Yeah. But we could choose like a
1:08:21
horrible family who you won't
1:08:23
feel bad about doing
1:08:26
this. But then it's not a piece of shame. No exactly.
1:08:28
Then it's yeah. What is that? They have
1:08:30
to be good people. No it's not a piece of retribution.
1:08:32
Yeah yeah they've got to be the best people. Okay. They've
1:08:36
got to be absolute salt of the bloody
1:08:38
ass these guys. So
1:08:41
when we find the house or the
1:08:43
church hall or whatever is happening say wedding I
1:08:45
think the wedding was. Well weddings
1:08:47
quite good yeah I guess it's a wedding cake sure. So
1:08:49
there's one slice of wedding cake left. Yeah although no because
1:08:51
they're going to want to freeze that. No it can't be
1:08:54
wedding cake. Sorry
1:08:57
that's probably the only one that yeah. Funeral?
1:09:00
Funeral cake. What was
1:09:02
your funeral cake like? I'm
1:09:04
trying to think of that. What
1:09:08
was that funeral cake like? Is
1:09:12
there a funeral cake? I don't think so. Not
1:09:14
a thing is it? Maybe a wake cake. A
1:09:16
wake cake. A christening cake.
1:09:19
Christening again is complicated isn't it? Let's
1:09:23
say ruby anniversary. You can
1:09:27
always find one of them. How many
1:09:30
years is that Ruby? Even
1:09:35
easier. What's 50? Silver
1:09:37
gold? So
1:09:43
you're floating over a ruby anniversary in a
1:09:45
village. Yeah. And you can see
1:09:47
through the roof of a venue. And they've got married young. I
1:09:49
don't want to be taking off a couple of like non-agenarians
1:09:53
or anything like that. Yeah so they're 60
1:09:55
maybe. Yeah if
1:09:57
late 50s maybe we might be talking
1:09:59
about. I think we've got a Gretna
1:10:01
Green job there. Yeah. But
1:10:04
a Gretna Green wedding. Yeah. So
1:10:07
they eloped to Gretna Green. They got married. And
1:10:09
now they're late 50s. So they
1:10:11
couldn't un-fund these guys. And it's
1:10:14
worked. They proved everyone wrong. Yeah.
1:10:16
Absolutely. It's a triumph.
1:10:18
It's lovely, lovely. Really, it's a lovely
1:10:20
story. Yeah, it's a great story. There's
1:10:23
one slice of cake left at the
1:10:25
Ruby anniversary. I bet I'm
1:10:27
going to say, I'm not expecting what's about to
1:10:29
happen next. And
1:10:33
the thing about those two is they
1:10:35
plan everything very carefully. Yeah. And
1:10:37
they feel that they are people that
1:10:39
expect the unexpected. But this is
1:10:43
coming from the blind spot. So
1:10:47
now I'm just trying to imagine how then you
1:10:49
go about this height. Yeah. Yeah. Are
1:10:51
you being teleported from the orb into
1:10:54
the event? No, I'm going to stay in the orb. Right.
1:10:59
The orb is going to beam it
1:11:01
through the house, first of all, so
1:11:03
that we can see what's going on.
1:11:06
And then it's going to attract the beam, suck up the
1:11:08
last bit of
1:11:12
cake. The
1:11:14
only person who is going
1:11:16
to witness that is the
1:11:18
10-year-old grandson who everyone
1:11:21
will think is lying. Yeah. And
1:11:26
who's making the perfect
1:11:28
creation? Does
1:11:31
it make it the piece of shame? If no one
1:11:33
else sees you do it, surely the piece of shame
1:11:35
that everyone sees, they just want it. They want it.
1:11:37
They all want it. So it's the shame
1:11:39
all on you. It's all internal shame. Yeah, yeah,
1:11:41
yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Internal
1:11:43
shame cake. It's internal shame, which brings
1:11:46
out the
1:11:49
acidity of the blueberry.
1:11:53
I don't know. Good ganache. Apricot.
1:11:56
Cheese cake. Apricot cheese cake. And the
1:11:58
crunch of the... the three
1:12:02
and the so on.
1:12:05
You'll need your menu back to announce here yourself about that.
1:12:08
Is there anything else
1:12:10
you want to add Mike before we read your
1:12:12
menu back to you? No, we absolutely stuffed after
1:12:15
that, thank you. Enjoy
1:12:17
reading this one back James? Yep. There's
1:12:20
not an iPad in here. James
1:12:24
had a little problem with the iPad in Glasgow
1:12:27
and accidentally loaded up a Lewis Capaldi video on
1:12:29
YouTube. I
1:12:31
don't know how he managed that one in a row.
1:12:40
Would you like to be left in water please?
1:12:42
You would like the maximum poppadom with
1:12:44
maximum chutney. You would like
1:12:47
a Gouduck and O'Flay with a toy. You
1:12:50
want what's that? Gouduck
1:12:55
and O'Flay surprise, the thing would be quite,
1:12:57
yeah, but I don't, yeah. But
1:13:00
you're right, yeah, a bigger problem. Apologies. What
1:13:03
there had, brackets, uncle fills for heaters. We've
1:13:07
turned back a Lancashire hot pot with a
1:13:09
sparkler. Alphabet.
1:13:11
Please. Oozo and a
1:13:13
pint of old Fumper. Dessert,
1:13:17
a piece of shame. Okay,
1:13:20
there's the menu menu. Mike,
1:13:22
what's your name? Mike. Mike,
1:13:26
what's your menu menu? AP
1:13:29
bottom of my pan with
1:13:35
the Colby
1:13:50
from my home,
1:13:52
on the vindo iconic mine.
1:13:55
We should have come imagine my bed. We do
1:13:57
that lie. Yeah, they're going to start
1:13:59
demanding that He does a strip tease. And you know what? He'd
1:14:02
do it. He'd do it. So we're lucky in a way
1:14:04
that that didn't happen. I do listen
1:14:06
to Mike's podcast, Three Bean Salad, wherever you
1:14:08
listen to your podcast. It is fantastic. And
1:14:11
it sent Elwix as well. And sent Elwix as well.
1:14:13
I think that stopped. But
1:14:15
like, go back and listen to all those episodes. I
1:14:17
do. With Three Bean Salad, I would
1:14:20
say really ration out. If you'd ever listened to it before,
1:14:22
ration it out. Because I listened to Five in
1:14:24
a Day once and my brain went really bendy.
1:14:27
Yeah, yeah. That could happen. Yeah, yeah. It's
1:14:30
a very dense podcast. There's a lot of stuff going
1:14:32
on in there. Yeah. I
1:14:34
like it. Oh, and there's not much. No, really. There's
1:14:37
a lot. It's buggy. Mike, Henry
1:14:39
and Ben. They're great
1:14:41
guys. But there's just a lot going
1:14:43
on. Yeah, yeah. With all three of them.
1:14:45
There's more beans than three. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot
1:14:47
of beans knocking around in there. Yeah, yeah. Or
1:14:50
one. Or one bean between the three of them. Yeah. Yeah.
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