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1:01

Welcome to great therapy. I'm your host, Caitlin Bristow.

1:03

You may have heard JBN mention her

1:05

a few weeks back when we podcasted he

1:08

was very passionate about

1:10

Ellie Black. One of the most successful gymnasts

1:12

in Canadian history. Okay?

1:15

So we got her on the pod. That

1:17

is one way you can, you know, support what

1:19

JBM was saying, support the Canadian Olympic

1:23

athletes. You can do that by listening to this

1:25

podcast today. She is so sweet. Of course, she

1:27

is just Canadian She continues to inspire

1:29

young goodness with her dedication, her hard

1:31

work, impressive performances on the

1:33

world stage. I really enjoyed talking

1:36

to her. It's just cool to hear what these Olympic

1:38

athletes go through and they're

1:40

always just such solid people. So I'm excited

1:43

for you to hear this conversation. With Ellie

1:45

today. Hi.

1:53

Hello? Hi. How are you?

1:55

I'm good. How are you? I'm so good.

1:57

Hold on. I'm gonna take off these headphones because they

2:00

look obnoxious, and I just wanna make

2:02

sure it sounded

2:02

okay.

2:03

It was A75. Do do you think

2:05

so? Yeah. I liked it.

2:07

I feel like they could be cuter. They're just like these

2:10

clunky big black things

2:12

that I feel

2:12

like. I need like a cute like neon

2:14

pink or

2:15

something to match the vibe over here.

2:17

Yeah. But thanks. I feel like you're just being nice

2:19

because you're Canadian. We're

2:21

both Canadian. No. You hate that

2:23

excuse. I was like, oh, they're just Canadian. They're

2:25

so nice. And you're like, you have a donut. Underestimate

2:27

you all cut a bitch. No. Exactly.

2:29

Exactly. And I am too nice sometimes.

2:32

I realized

2:33

that. And I'm like, I think I'm just too nice.

2:35

Like, I feel like that sometimes,

2:37

but then my fiance would definitely disagree

2:39

with me on that. He'd be like, no, you

2:41

could act to be a little nicer. Yeah.

2:44

The people who really know you. Yeah.

2:46

Exactly. But I'm so happier here. And

2:49

did you hear or did someone tell you about

2:51

the JBN podcast where he was very passionate

2:53

about Canadian

2:54

Olympian. Oh, yes. Oh, yes.

2:56

So someone actually in the gymnastics community

2:59

here sent that to me. Yeah. And she

3:01

was like, you need to listen to this. So

3:03

I'm like, yeah. Because I've like heard some of your episodes

3:05

before. I just hadn't heard that one. Yeah. And

3:07

I put it on. And I was like,

3:10

living. I was like, first off, I'm not retired,

3:12

so don't get too upset. I'm still going.

3:14

And then second off, when

3:16

can I do gymnastics with you? And

3:18

also, can I get on this podcast?

3:20

Like, all of

3:21

these sound great to me. That's we

3:24

just need to make so now you're on podcast and

3:26

now we need to make it. So we're in

3:28

the same city, me, you, JBN, and

3:30

you guys could teach me, like, how to do some

3:32

sort of I'm I'm, like, absolutely

3:35

coordinated. My trainer would say

3:37

I'm athletic. But if you see me, like, try

3:39

and play any sport, you would definitely disagree

3:41

with that. So I'd be curious how I would do

3:43

with,

3:43

like, that's okay. My hand eye coordination

3:46

is not quite it. So

3:49

you may actually be, like, secretly really

3:51

great at

3:52

gymnastics. Like, who knows? You know what?

3:54

I guess, we're gonna have to teach you. Okay.

3:56

We'll we'll find out. And as JBN

3:58

pointed out in that podcast several times, you're

4:01

one of the most successful gymnasts in

4:03

Canadian history, which is

4:05

so cool. Like, what a legendary

4:08

thing to be like, I'm, you know, the most successful

4:10

gymnast in Canadian whatever. So,

4:12

what inspired you to pursue

4:14

gymnastics? Or did you just come out of the womb

4:16

like tumbling? Well,

4:18

I think I actually didn't really know about gymnastics.

4:21

Knew that did my parents and someone actually

4:23

suggested to my parents to put me in

4:25

gymnastics because I was like so

4:28

powerful and strong and just like jumping around

4:30

and like so much energy. So they

4:32

suggested to put me in gymnastics. And I think my

4:34

parents were, like, a little bit hesitant because, like,

4:36

like, gymnastics, like, that's dangerous. Like,

4:39

you know, I don't know about that. But

4:41

once I got into it, it just, like, clicked and

4:43

being in that environment and, I don't

4:45

know, just like the feeling of flipping and flying.

4:47

Like, nothing beats that. I I

4:49

mean, that does sound like fun, but you have

4:52

to have so many other things that add

4:54

up in in yourself to be a gymnast,

4:56

like, the training that would come along with

4:58

it, the competitiveness, like

5:00

-- Oh, yes. -- the structure

5:02

of your life, like, basically

5:04

probably taking over of just like eat sleep

5:06

and breathe gymnastics. So you

5:09

obviously were, like, bread as an

5:11

athlete because you have that in you. But,

5:13

like, what does training for the Olympics

5:15

look like? Is it every single day do you get

5:17

days

5:18

off? How does your body handle that?

5:20

Yeah. Well, I mean yeah. Like, I do have

5:22

a competitive nature, so I feel like that just,

5:24

like, drives me. And -- Yeah. -- I have goals that

5:26

I wanna achieve, but it is, like,

5:28

fully it just, like,

5:30

takes over your whole life, like, you know, in

5:32

and out of the gym. Right? Because you're trying to get your

5:35

proper rest and your proper nutrition, proper

5:37

recovery. Your training, like

5:39

everything kinda just consumed

5:42

by gymnastics. Mhmm. But,

5:44

you know, like, training for the Olympics.

5:46

We kinda look at it in, like, quad.

5:48

So every four years, the Olympics happen.

5:51

And then you kinda, like, set your goals towards

5:53

the next one each year. It's, like,

5:55

we've got qualifications for Olympics,

5:58

like the first round and the next year, it's like

6:00

the second round of Olympic qualifications. And

6:02

then you kind of move on to like, okay, it's

6:04

like Olympic prep year and So

6:07

you're kind of, like, preparing for the Olympics,

6:09

like, many years in advance. Yeah.

6:11

I mean, you do get these off where you

6:13

should. Yes. I advocate

6:15

for that. Highly.

6:16

Yeah. Especially as you get older in the

6:18

sport. But, yeah, I think it's important

6:20

to have good balance of, like, training hard,

6:22

but also doing as

6:25

much recovery as you are training because,

6:27

you know, the amount you put into the gym, you almost

6:29

have to do that full amount to

6:31

recover and be able to come down the next

6:33

step. Can you even

6:33

imagine what the recovery would look

6:35

like for that? Because it's probably more than

6:37

just rest. It's probably,

6:39

like, certain have you ever done, like, ice

6:41

baths? Yes. Yeah.

6:43

So ice baths or, like, contrast baths?

6:46

I don't know if you've ever heard of, like, they're called norm attacks.

6:48

They're, like, these the legs that

6:50

goes

6:50

on. And the compression, the air --

6:52

Yeah. -- those are great. You know, seeing

6:54

physio, like, all of that

6:56

is it just, like, kinda feeds into that

6:58

recovery. And then as well, like, you know, sleep

7:00

and proper nutrition and It's

7:03

just like everything. I mean,

7:05

that's and and that's everything physical. And

7:07

then I'm sure you add the mental element

7:09

of taking care of yourself as well.

7:12

I feel like, how would you mentally prepare

7:14

for things like that on your recovery days, on your

7:16

working days, on the days where, like,

7:18

like, if I don't know if you do, but I suffer

7:21

so bad from PMS or cramps

7:23

or anxiety. And on those days where I

7:25

I can a lot of times to say, you know what,

7:27

I'm actually gonna give myself this day to just

7:29

stay in bed or do all

7:30

that. Mentally, what can you do

7:33

to prepare? Yeah. I guess

7:35

there's like a fine line for us because

7:37

like you'll have those days where you have to go to

7:39

the gym and you feel like,

7:41

oh my gosh, mentally, I'm just not there today

7:44

or physically, like, I don't I

7:46

don't know what I can do. If it's like that

7:48

mental aspect, you gotta be careful and

7:50

I always just, like, talk to my coach and I'm, like, okay,

7:52

I don't think I can do these things today because, like,

7:54

my mind's just not with it. Basically, you

7:56

can kinda, like, push a little bit and be, like,

7:59

a cam sword, but, like, I actually

8:01

might be able to get some stuff done and, you know,

8:03

what happens if you're sore the day of competition?

8:05

Like, you you gotta kinda have that under

8:07

your belt or practice that a bit. But

8:09

I think, like, on the rest days and recovery

8:11

days, your body almost feels like worse

8:14

because your body knows you're

8:16

resting. Your body knows that it's like time to

8:18

relax and everything just, like, crashes

8:20

down, and then you gotta, like, pull yourself

8:22

back up. But it's also really important

8:24

to have those because yeah, without

8:27

those rest, you're just gonna burn yourself out.

8:29

But I think it's just like knowing when

8:31

you have those days and cycling and having

8:33

a schedule, like, we're very schedule based

8:35

because obviously you gotta be able

8:37

to plan for your week and plan for your schedule.

8:40

And but I think it's important too to recognize

8:42

if you do need day off, like, and that's

8:44

gonna be more important and more

8:46

beneficial. Like, you should do that -- Yeah.

8:48

-- for yourself. Yeah. I agree.

8:50

It's listening to your body and and your mind

8:52

and all of those things. Do you have any like,

8:54

rituals. I know some athletes are

8:56

superstitious. Maybe you're superstitious.

8:59

Maybe you're little suspicious. Like, do you have any

9:01

of your crazy routines where you're like, I

9:03

must eat this bowl of cereal with

9:05

this amount of milk and where these socks

9:07

to.

9:08

No. No. No. I actually tried not to

9:10

be super dishes because

9:12

I think my coach got me into this a little

9:14

bit, but like, you know, you travel all around

9:16

the world. The food's different.

9:19

You probably are going to be sleeping

9:21

in like a really different environment.

9:23

Your whole schedule is going to be different. And so

9:25

if you can kind of keep something similar.

9:28

That's great. You feel comfortable, but not

9:30

like having to feel like you need

9:32

to do this or you can't perform.

9:35

I think that's what I try and stay away from. So

9:37

I think that I like to do and I prefer

9:39

to do. But if it doesn't go that

9:41

way, it's okay. I can still

9:43

do my gymnastics, but

9:46

I I would say one thing I'd like to have when

9:48

I compete is I have like a little flower that I

9:50

put in my hair. Yeah. Yeah.

9:52

And that actually comes from my first Olympic

9:54

Games. I was, like, very new to the scene,

9:56

but one of, like, my gymnastics, like,

9:58

idols that I looked up to, and she probably

10:01

would have been on the Olympic team had she had

10:03

knock on injured. Her name is Ping Ping

10:05

Li or Bristowe Li, but

10:07

she always wore flower in her hair. And

10:09

so she got injured that

10:11

year of the two thousand twelve Olympics,

10:14

wasn't able to compete. So our team collectively

10:17

all wore little like flowers

10:19

in our hair because she was like our pink

10:21

captain and sweet. Yeah. So we, like,

10:23

had her with me and that's just something that's kinda

10:25

like stuck with me. Since then,

10:27

basically. Oh, that's sweet. Yeah.

10:30

So that's I guess that's, like, the one kind

10:32

of vicious thing that

10:34

I

10:34

have. But I can still compete without

10:37

it. Right.

10:37

It's just a nice little touch that makes

10:39

you feel good before. Because I I feel like

10:41

anytime you're

10:44

doing something, especially on that level of a

10:46

stage like the Olympian, your

10:48

stress and nerves must be

10:50

out of control. And

10:52

sometimes a simple thing of, like,

10:54

you know, that little reminder in your

10:56

hair, that little flower can, like, be, like, okay,

10:58

I can do this. Like, it can be something

11:01

so small like that. So -- Yeah. -- when you're

11:03

when people feel comfortable. Yeah. And

11:05

I think that's huge. When you're feeling nervous,

11:07

no matter what you're doing in your

11:09

life. People can apply the tip. You're on a stage

11:11

like the Olympics or if you're just like nervous about

11:13

work meeting or whatever you're doing,

11:15

what are some things that you do to calm

11:17

your nerves? Yeah.

11:19

Oh, for sure. Like, you can use this, like,

11:21

any day. Things that I like

11:23

to do. It's like breathing is number one for

11:25

me. It's like calming down my nervous system.

11:28

Like, bringing me down, making sure that

11:30

I can actually breathe and you're actually then

11:32

focused on something other than

11:34

the nerves. So like regulating your

11:36

breathing, I think is really good. I also

11:38

do visualization, so I like to

11:41

and do it in a positive way. Don't visualize

11:43

yourself doing something negatively. That's

11:45

not really productive. But, yeah,

11:47

like, visualizing my routines are

11:49

doing it successfully, and then

11:51

just like focusing on

11:54

everything that I've done to pair. And everything

11:56

that I know I've put all that

11:58

hard work into and, like, kinda just finding

12:01

that self belief and confidence and To

12:04

be able to, like, just go out and be

12:06

like, look, I can handle this. And if

12:08

something comes up weird, I can handle

12:10

that too. Like, I'm gonna be able to pivot I'm

12:12

gonna be able to take this on, but

12:14

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12:23

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12:25

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12:26

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14:08

Is there anything that stands out to you

14:10

as the most memorable moment in your career

14:13

even if it's something like obviously certain

14:15

ones are gonna be really great, but do you have, like, embarrassing

14:17

ones? Most memorable, like, top three.

14:19

Top three. Oh

14:22

my

14:22

gosh. Anything that comes to your mind? I've

14:24

been doing gymnastics a long time.

14:26

Like, I have a lot of moments.

14:28

Yeah. Okay. So I would say probably

14:31

one of my favorite moments

14:33

was from my first Olympic Games. So

14:35

just a little bit of background. I went from

14:37

being like this little girl from Nova Scotia

14:40

I wasn't even on national team in January,

14:42

and then I went to making the Olympic team

14:45

in June. And so, yeah,

14:47

just, like, over the course of a couple months,

14:49

made an on to national team and and

14:51

got like an Olympic spot. And this was something

14:53

that me and my longtime coach

14:56

were really like working towards and honestly

14:58

never knew if it was gonna happen or not.

15:00

But I remember I was at the Olympic trials

15:03

and my coach from

15:05

before he passed away last year. But he Sorry.

15:08

So my current coach he's he's

15:10

coaching me still, but my longtime coach from

15:12

before he passed away last year. But

15:14

he was the one who was coaching me at the time. He didn't like

15:16

to travel, so he wasn't at the Olympic trials with

15:19

me. And I remember calling him

15:21

from the Olympic trials and saying,

15:24

like, cagey, like, I made the Olympian.

15:26

And he thought I was joking. Like, he thought

15:28

I was kidding. He didn't believe that it

15:30

was actually true because this is something we were

15:32

like working towards for so long. So I think that was

15:34

just a really special moment in like my gymnastics

15:37

career and being able to go compete

15:39

at the Olympian, being the first female gymnast

15:41

from Nova Scotia to ever make it to the Olympic

15:43

Games, like, very, very

15:45

cool. And then I would say another

15:48

amazing moment was also competed at

15:50

the World Championships in Montreal. Wow.

15:52

We hosted them there. So it's not every day you

15:54

get to compete in your, like,

15:56

home country --

15:57

Mhmm. -- you know, with all

15:59

your family and friends coming to watch.

16:02

So --

16:02

Yeah. That's huge. -- that was yeah, that was

16:04

just incredible. Like, it was just the environment

16:06

having everyone there watching. And

16:08

I actually won a silver medal for Canada,

16:11

which was the first ever all around metal

16:14

a female head one at a world championships, and

16:16

I got to do that on home soil

16:18

with everyone

16:18

walking. Like, just

16:21

phenomenal. And then I went home and all

16:23

my teammates were chirping me because I didn't get gold.

16:25

But, you know, yes.

16:27

First of all, I love that you say chirping because I

16:29

say that all the time and it's such a Canadian,

16:31

like, I I don't know if it's like athletes or

16:33

because that's what, like, my ex who's

16:36

always say chirping and he was an athlete. And

16:38

then I it stuck with me. And I used to

16:40

say it all the time on the bachelor and bachelor.

16:42

People will be like, what is that? And so I love

16:44

hearing, like, little Canadian I'm so glad

16:46

it's not just me either. No. I don't

16:48

know. It's that's amazing.

16:49

Oh, my gosh.

16:49

They're chirping you for not getting gold. Yeah.

16:53

He was like, but only silver. I'm like, are

16:55

you kidding me? Come on, man. It's like, this is

16:57

history right

16:57

now. Yeah. History. Awesome. That's

17:00

so cool. What a freaking feeling?

17:02

Wow. Like, when you said that I

17:04

flexed, like,

17:06

I was like, yeah.

17:07

I was so bad ass. Do you have

17:09

any, like, idles in the space, like, in

17:11

in that world that you look up to that you've gotten to

17:13

meet? Yeah. I mean, like,

17:16

I've had a lot of gymnastics idols over

17:18

the years. Like, Shawn Johnson was

17:20

always one for me because she was very

17:23

very similar bell to me, kind of like short

17:25

powerful, like, you know, just I

17:27

I felt like I could relate to her a lot.

17:30

And then there's some others like Julia

17:32

Steingruber. I don't you know, who she is. She's

17:34

from Switzerland. Super awesome. Definitely

17:37

a vault or two, so someone I could, like, relate

17:40

to. Of course, someone vials everyone

17:42

looks up to her. She's just,

17:43

I mean, I didn't know that same world.

17:46

Exactly. Yeah.

17:47

People who aren't in gymnastics just like,

17:49

everyone looks up to her. Like,

17:51

she she can, you know, set standards

17:53

in pretty much every aspect of life. But,

17:56

yeah, lots lots of gymnasts

17:58

that I've been able to kind of meet

18:00

throughout my Chirped. Of course, like Christine

18:02

Lee. She was also one, two, But,

18:05

yeah, like, it just amazing that I actually got to

18:07

meet them and be able to

18:09

connect with them. And I think you

18:11

realize, like, you're like, okay. These

18:14

people are just regular people too.

18:16

Yeah. And, you know, because sometimes

18:18

everyone yes, their life is a

18:20

little bit different than ours, but you know, we're

18:22

all, like, put on these platforms and and

18:24

really, we're just individuals who are really passionate

18:27

about what we do. And so it's kinda cool to

18:29

be able to meet them and connect and be, like, okay.

18:31

Like, Actually, this could be a possibility for

18:33

me as

18:33

well, especially when you're young and you're a young kid

18:35

and you're able to meet your idol. Like,

18:37

yeah, it's just phenomenal. Sean

18:40

has become such a dear friend of mine here in Nashville.

18:42

I just love her and Andrew so much.

18:44

And I see them with their kids, you know,

18:47

doing, like, the flips and doing

18:49

things and training them already. And I'm like, that's

18:51

so cool because it also I knew

18:53

I saw somebody there's some guy that went,

18:55

like, viral on TikTok or doing

18:57

these crazy tricks with his little girl

18:59

for, like, cheer. Did you ever see that? Yes.

19:01

I don't think I saw that. No. Oh, it was, like, next

19:04

level and people were so

19:06

mortified that this guy was doing that with his daughter.

19:08

And then there's, like, so many people that were like,

19:10

they're building trust and, like,

19:13

more so much more than that than what people people

19:15

are just like scared because it was kind of dangerous.

19:17

But at the same time, you're building a lot of trust

19:19

and, like, I don't know.

19:21

Did

19:22

What age did you start? I started

19:24

when I was, like, six, seven years old, but,

19:26

like, gymnastics is such a foundation sport

19:29

that. Like, it teaches you balance. It teaches you how

19:31

to fall properly. It teaches you, like,

19:33

body awareness. Like, you learn

19:35

how to do those things. And so for

19:37

me, like, as kid. I'm like,

19:39

I I hope every kid gets the chance to experience

19:42

NASA. It's not because, like, well, I'm I

19:44

am biased. I think it's -- Yeah. -- I think it's the

19:46

best word out there. But That being

19:48

said, I think it's just such an incredible

19:50

like stepping stone because you can use those skills

19:53

like in daily life walking down the street.

19:55

We all need to do that. And then as well that

19:57

if you go to any other sport, like gymnasts

19:59

are like pretty universal. They

20:01

can go at least attempt and try

20:04

pretty much any other sport because the

20:06

base of, like, learning that we

20:08

have is just so wide and

20:10

you just learn so much. But those people

20:12

are also probably professionals

20:15

Yep. In our aspect. Right? So,

20:17

like, I don't know. Yeah.

20:18

Trust the professionals. Just because That's the

20:20

thing. Bristowe Susan 498291

20:24

at home to go back into kid

20:25

like that. These are professionals. Yeah. That's

20:27

Gong is an Olympic champion, and she's bringing her

20:29

kids to the gym. Like, that makes sense to me. Yeah.

20:35

Okay. And at that time of the pod where we are

20:37

going to do a little what do you call it a

20:39

zapular? Is that what you Zachler

20:41

or Zachler? Because it spelled Zach

20:44

let's just go with Zachler. Okay.

20:46

Our recap for our Peloton romance

20:48

roundup, I've got my producers Madison

20:50

and Alicia with me. And we all

20:52

watched the episode last night and it

20:55

definitely had a lot of romance. At least

20:57

before the Zoom rose ceremony, were you

20:59

guys LLC like I was doing that? I

21:01

was more cringing than -- Oh. --

21:03

nothing romantic about like screen

21:06

and what did they call it a virtual virtual

21:08

rose ceremony? Like, never been done

21:11

in Bachelor That's so funny.

21:13

Okay. So quick word about Peloton's sponsors

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21:35

Just kidding. Do I mean it? No, I don't. Yes, I do.

21:37

Do you? I don't know. Yeah.

21:41

Booching. Let's get into

21:43

it. Who gets the first one on Monday again?

21:45

So Gabby

21:48

got the first one on one date and

21:50

he brought her to a perfumery a

21:53

perfumery where they create their own

21:56

scent called zabby, that's

21:58

kind of fun. Very clever

22:00

and very cute. Very clever. And then

22:02

they had royal corgis and that really sold

22:04

the date for me. I was like, alright, I'm so into

22:06

the crown and so seeing the

22:08

royal corgis, I was like, get out of here.

22:11

They were their date was really cute and really romantic

22:13

at the end. I really liked them together.

22:15

It was sweet. I loved their genuine

22:17

conversation and Greer. She's

22:21

feeling a little envious of Gabbie's date

22:23

and said she's never felt like somebody's queen,

22:25

which I think we can all relate to. But I think

22:27

let's get real the real romance

22:29

is between rear end t. Okay.

22:32

So group date comes, double up

22:34

on love. As soon as they said, double up on

22:36

love. I was like, clearly, they're doing a double decker

22:38

bus in London. I didn't get them till

22:40

right now. Come on, Madison.

22:43

I was, like, half watching and I I

22:45

didn't put it together. Well, you know what?

22:48

The good thing, there's three of us with six

22:50

eyes on this episode

22:53

because the two of them caught that. Yeah.

22:56

Four of us. The people who caught that were the

22:58

ones who were not sober. Busy. I

23:00

was little buzzed up. Alicia was high.

23:02

Yeah. Wow. That's actually embarrassing

23:04

for you, Madison. Alicia was higher than

23:06

their knacled titties. Sure

23:08

was. Never gets old. Okay.

23:11

So big group dates. Obviously, Charity

23:13

was not on it, so she gets the one on one date.

23:16

Which has been a long time coming. And charity

23:18

is also, by the way, Chirped and family

23:20

therapist at twenty six years old, which makes

23:22

me feel better than the twenty two year olds

23:24

this season. But twenty six years

23:26

old as as child and family

23:28

therapist, I was still a child at twenty six

23:30

years old. I didn't know my ass from my elbow.

23:33

Okay. Mercedes starts hyperventilating about

23:35

charity getting the one on one date. We

23:37

I had hope for Mercedes. We'll get into that later.

23:40

But honestly, do you think they're sad about not having

23:42

time with Zach? Or are they sad about losing

23:44

potential followers at this point? Because

23:46

obviously someone was asking Anastasia about,

23:48

like, getting brand deals. And

23:50

it's just so hard to tell this season. I don't want

23:52

to sound bitter because I'm not. I think

23:55

everybody should be able to get Instagram

23:57

followers and make money that way. It's great. I

23:59

I think Jason might have posted about this,

24:01

but I I think there's something to say of, like, it's

24:03

twenty twenty three -- Mhmm. --

24:05

not going on the bachelor to find

24:07

justify love. I mean, yeah, that's an option.

24:10

But, like, you know what comes out of

24:12

it. It's past its prime

24:14

of getting followers, though. That's what

24:16

I'm saying. People aren't just giving out follows

24:18

anymore. Like, it's are you going

24:20

to follow any of them? Oh,

24:23

yeah. I probably will I've been little

24:25

behind this season and I like to follow once

24:27

I feel connected to them. And,

24:30

like, I would actually want to hang out with them

24:32

in the future. I haven't I don't even know if

24:34

I follow any of them yet, but last night was truly

24:36

the first time I've sat down and actually watched. I

24:38

really like Gabby. Okay. Anyways back to

24:40

the hotel in an ITM Greer refers

24:43

to Zach as her boyfriend, which is a lot.

24:45

Do you think that's the right time to use the

24:47

term boyfriend for him? Like, I'm

24:49

trying to think of when I started calling

24:51

Bristowe my boyfriend, but I actually don't think I

24:53

did the whole time because I was like, is he?

24:56

I don't I don't know. They always

24:58

do that though. What are you supposed to call them?

25:00

What are they? The bachelor. Yeah.

25:02

The bachelor. The main event. What

25:05

would you have wanted to be

25:06

called? My crush. That's

25:08

my crush. Oh, that's my girl. I

25:11

like that. That's cute. Yeah.

25:13

That's a girl. But I don't like

25:15

that's my man. No. I don't

25:17

like that's my man. And I don't like that's

25:19

my boy. Oh

25:23

my god. It was so when

25:25

he was sick, I actually genuinely concerned

25:27

about him and it felt like the group date. Like,

25:30

it was raining. All the girls are like, oh my gosh.

25:32

Like, this sucks. We feel stood at

25:34

the betrayed, and I'm like, nobody cares

25:37

if he's like, got a fever? Seem

25:39

like a great time. I have a

25:41

big insider scoop secret

25:43

here. Oh. And I probably shouldn't

25:46

tell it, but I'm going to. Well,

25:48

I don't know if I told you this last night,

25:50

but when they

25:53

show b roll of Zach and he,

25:55

like, really doesn't look like he's doing

25:57

too bad despite of the dramatic footage of him

25:59

blowing his nose. You

26:01

remember him? He's, like, in his hotel room, in

26:03

the bed blowing his nose. He's got a fake cup of

26:05

tea. That's a hotel in LA.

26:09

That makes so much sense.

26:11

And so they must have had to be like, oh, shit.

26:13

We need to b roll of Zach looking sick.

26:15

And so then he's back in LA. And

26:17

they're like, can we just get you blowing your nose and like

26:19

holding cup of tea in the hotel room?

26:21

He was great. He looks like he was driving.

26:24

Wait. It was like, I actually

26:26

thought in a moment, I was like, damn. I could've used

26:28

five days off with some tea and bed,

26:30

like, during my season. But that's

26:32

yeah. So it does not make sense. That

26:35

makes so much sense. It's the hotel

26:37

they always put all of their people

26:39

in when we do, like, final rows

26:42

or the women towel,

26:44

men towel, that's where they stay in this, like, very

26:46

specific bed that has writing on the back.

26:48

I just thought that was funny. Now, that's some

26:50

tea. Now that right there,

26:52

ladies and gentlemen, is some tea. Okay.

26:54

So the gals got dressed up with date and

26:56

night, and yet again, MIA Greer is

26:59

upset. She says that everyone's

27:01

experience being stood up. I

27:03

haven't, so I don't know what she's talking about.

27:07

Never been stood up. Yeah. I don't think

27:09

I've I've never been stood up. Wow.

27:11

Aren't we? Three little bitches. We

27:14

cut that. Let's make that

27:16

careful. But he's also not sending

27:18

them out because the poor guys got the bid. So

27:21

that was sad. Charity's date gets canceled

27:23

too, which, oh my god, have you seen a more beautiful

27:26

crying woman in your life? Ten

27:28

out of ten standing perfect everything, and

27:30

then just like her beautiful single tears

27:32

going down her beautiful face. Yeah.

27:34

It was like Lauren Conrad in the hills.

27:37

Oh, yeah. Mhmm. Yeah. I

27:39

don't even know what that means, but yeah, I think

27:42

I think in a meme. I think I've seen a meme.

27:44

So that was sad and hard breaking, and I really am

27:46

rooting for her too. Okay. And then Jesse

27:48

announces, Zach is feeling better. He wants to do

27:50

virtual cocktail hour. Whoo. That

27:53

was so awkward. I had why

27:56

couldn't they see themselves? They all didn't know what to

27:58

do. They're all saying the same thing. And then

28:00

the awkward encounter with Greer, she,

28:02

like, makes a comment about, yeah, it's like

28:04

a difficult end of quarter with

28:06

sales. He's like, I actually don't think it's

28:08

like that at all, which I loved that he did that.

28:10

I loved that he was like, I know she was trying

28:13

to relate and actually feel really bad for her

28:15

after the fact because she was so embarrassed and she

28:17

was like, I was just, you know, that's an uncomfortable situation.

28:19

She was just nervous. And

28:21

then we get the virtual rose ceremony. Well,

28:24

I I don't know, but the show must go on.

28:26

This is show his baby. And the women are

28:28

all in their dresses, and Zach is up on a TV

28:30

and is suit and not even

28:32

the Vid can mess up the traditional format

28:34

of the show. So Kylie and Mercedes get

28:36

sent home. Well, I'd high hopes for Mercedes.

28:39

I really did.

28:39

Okay. Well, that is a whole lot of romance or

28:42

at least something like that. Okay.

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Do you have any BTS, like, behind

29:00

scenes moments from Olympics or training

29:03

or Anything that you wish people knew

29:05

more about that they don't give you guys

29:07

enough credit for?

29:08

Okay. Well, this is something that I actually kinda

29:11

do on my Instagram. I call it the grind, but

29:13

it's kind of just like show what

29:15

athletes go through behind

29:17

the scenes. Yeah. I mean,

29:19

like, I'm a pretty, like, I

29:22

don't know, foolish, kind of like I'm very focused

29:24

when I'm in the gym, but I like to have fun. I like to

29:26

joke. I always like sing and

29:28

dance. In the gym. So that's something that I do

29:30

a lot of the time. I'm sure all my teammates know

29:32

that. But maybe the public doesn't

29:34

necessarily know that. Actually, I'm sure that

29:36

I do it at competition too. But, yeah,

29:38

I just think, like, it's it's kind of

29:40

that whole, like, brine that goes behind it because

29:43

it's not just I don't know, when you they

29:45

see us competing. We're at our peak. Like,

29:47

we're at most prepared, you know,

29:49

at the Olympic Games at World championships.

29:52

Like, we've been, like, preparing the whole year,

29:54

multiple years for this moment. But

29:56

it's like everything that goes behind that in the

29:58

daily life. Like, those ice baths that

30:00

are, like, completely freezing. Right. So,

30:02

like, gross gelatin you have to mix

30:05

with water or, like, collagen before you go to

30:07

training and, like, swallow down that goopy,

30:09

like, goop. You know, like, it's just

30:11

there's lot of stuff and the

30:13

hard days in training too, where you just fall on

30:15

your face. Constantly every turn, you have to

30:17

get back up and keep trying and keep trying and

30:20

so don't know. There's like a lot that goes behind

30:22

it that I feel like not everyone sees

30:24

and that's kind of what I like want to show

30:26

because then I think they can appreciate

30:28

and understand more of like what

30:30

we do and what it takes to kind

30:32

of get to that, like, higher level,

30:34

like, preparedness, just

30:36

like ready to go. Well, because I was thinking

30:39

about this Is there any,

30:40

like, reality TV shows out there

30:42

about behind the scenes of that world?

30:45

Because, like, I think that's why people love

30:47

dancing with the stars so much. Because you kind of

30:49

watch this transformation happen,

30:51

where at the beginning, like, this person might not

30:53

even know they're left from their right

30:54

foot. And then by Monday nights on live television,

30:57

they're doing a whole wall like, it's

30:59

I think people love seeing people overcome

31:01

things, and I feel like that would be such a good trial

31:03

idea for something like

31:05

gymnast. Yeah. No.

31:08

I actually don't think there is anything. I think

31:10

maybe in Italy, like years ago,

31:12

there used to be like an MTV on,

31:14

like, some of the Italian gymnasts. So, I

31:16

mean, they probably already got it got it started.

31:19

But, I

31:20

mean, if anyone wants to do a show, I'm sure

31:22

we can get some gymnasts on board. Like, if you're

31:24

they can come see me sing and dance. And

31:26

and because everybody's level of,

31:29

like, competitiveness, but

31:31

also maybe I'm just

31:33

making this up in my head because I like think this way.

31:35

But I feel like athletes all kind of root

31:37

for each other, but at the same time, they are

31:39

competitive. So it's like this interesting

31:42

dynamic of rooting for someone because

31:44

you kinda know what they've been through and know what they

31:46

go through on a daily

31:47

basis, but also like you're my competition,

31:49

like, and I'm gonna beat you. And I like

31:51

that. That's that's so true though.

31:53

It is so true because you're you're competitive.

31:55

You're like, well, I'm here

31:58

to compete and I wanna beat you, but

32:00

also I want you to do well because I know

32:02

everything that you've been through, I know everything you've

32:04

had to overcome And, like, I I've

32:07

been there, and I've I've been through that, and

32:09

I wanna support that because, like, what

32:11

what you're doing is incredible. But

32:13

also,

32:14

like, I'm competitive and I wanna do

32:16

well. But you wanna do well when everyone does

32:18

well. Right? Yeah. But I think that's so fascinating

32:20

about athletes. I feel like it's may and

32:22

maybe that's in more things than just the

32:24

athletic world, but I do find it so

32:26

much with them because of that level

32:28

of understanding what you

32:30

all go through on the daily grind and what

32:32

you do to your body. Like, how do you

32:35

deal with setback and injuries of

32:37

your career? Like, everybody

32:39

in their life has setbacks, but your

32:41

body goes through so

32:43

much. How do you guys deal with these challenges?

32:46

Oh, yeah. I've I've had lot of

32:48

injuries along my

32:50

way. Yeah. I've had multiple

32:52

surgeries. And I've yeah. I've, like,

32:54

dislocated my elbow. I've had

32:56

couple ankle surgeries,

32:59

busted a lot of my ankle ligaments. And

33:03

it's tough. Like, I remember one of my

33:05

biggest first injuries. I broke my

33:07

big toe and I like dislocated it and

33:09

had some chips out of the joint and yeah.

33:12

That was my first surgery and I was, like,

33:14

fifteen years old. And it kept me out

33:16

of the sport for, like, six months and that was, like, really

33:18

hard to deal with at the time. And

33:21

so I think for me, it was, like, changing.

33:23

Obviously, you have to, like, feel those emotions and

33:26

it sucks. Like, there's no way to put it. It

33:28

just, like, sucks. But it's a little bit of acceptance

33:30

and knowing that this is the situation and

33:32

what can I do to make this situation better

33:35

or what can I do to, like,

33:37

do one percent every day

33:39

to kind of get back to what I wanna be doing?

33:41

Right? Yeah. So I think yeah. It's

33:43

like, changing the narrative or changing

33:45

your mindset into more of, like, a positive forward

33:48

thinking mindset. And

33:50

then just like being like, okay, how can I make

33:52

this situation better? But every

33:55

time you're kind of faced with an

33:57

obstacle, I think

33:59

you gain a little bit of confidence or knowledge in

34:01

yourself. So then the next time, obviously, we

34:03

train to not have injuries or, you know, any

34:05

setbacks. But the next time you're faced

34:07

with it, you feel like, okay. Well, I was

34:09

able to overcome this thing last time,

34:11

which was super difficult and super tough, and I

34:13

didn't think I was gonna be able to overcome.

34:16

And I did. So, you know, there I

34:18

can do it this time. Right? And it kinda just builds

34:20

your confidence. So that's what I found kind of

34:22

over the years with my injuries is

34:24

you know, whatever it is, I'll be able to handle

34:27

it. Even if it's I have to pivot my plan

34:29

or change the path a little bit, it'll

34:31

be okay and just kind of like

34:33

reinforcing that because that is

34:36

the situation and how can I just kind of

34:38

create a positive out of

34:39

it?

34:40

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And it must be tough to knowing like

37:00

I hope I podcast till I'm a

37:02

hundred years old. I I

37:04

feel like that I

37:05

could. Even if I'm not you know, even if nobody's

37:07

listening anymore.

37:08

Even even

37:09

if nobody's listening. I'm just, like, off my freaking

37:11

rock or being

37:13

I'll be listening. Don't worry. Also

37:16

in my rocker.

37:17

Yeah. So I feel like it would be, like,

37:19

I can I could do that if I wanted to?

37:21

Whereas, what you do, your

37:23

body cannot do that for a

37:25

long period of time. So does

37:28

that bum you out? Because you're like, I don't

37:30

even know. Like, what I will do

37:32

after this? Or are you like, hey, I have time limit

37:34

and I have goals for after I'm done with

37:36

being a gymnast?

37:37

Yeah. think it's tough because, you

37:39

know, there is time limit for something that

37:42

you love and I wish I could do forever.

37:44

But also one of the cool things is is

37:46

that gymnastics has Chirped. And you're

37:48

seeing girls stay around in the sport so

37:50

much longer. It used to be you hit sixteen,

37:53

one Olympian, and you're done. And now

37:55

you're seeing girls stay into their, you know,

37:58

late teens into their twenties, some

38:00

even into their thirties and, you know, multiple

38:02

Olympic cycles. So I think that's,

38:04

like, pretty great and pretty inspiring, but

38:06

also it's yeah. It's so hard on

38:08

your body that, you know, there is there

38:11

is probably an end date. And

38:13

I think for me, I just, like, don't I

38:15

don't wanna set an end date for myself.

38:17

You know? I'm I monitor my body

38:19

and my mind. And as long as I'm

38:22

still loving what I'm doing and my body's able

38:24

to handle it, you know, why not

38:26

do it because yeah, there is only such,

38:28

like, kind of a short timeline to be

38:30

able to do that thing you're so passionate

38:32

about. And I

38:34

think yeah, it's just exciting because you

38:36

know there'll be like another

38:38

adventure, another chapter when

38:40

you're done. Kinda scary because you

38:42

don't know exactly what that is or most

38:44

athletes don't. It's a little bit of transition

38:47

period. Yeah. It's unknown and you have to

38:49

kind of find yourself outside of

38:51

like who you are as an athlete because your

38:54

your athletic life is like all encompassing.

38:56

It just kind of takes over

38:58

every aspect of your life and you have to find yourself

39:00

outside of that when you're done. But I think

39:02

I'll always be connected in sport because

39:05

it's been such a big part of my life and I wanna be

39:07

able to give back in that aspect.

39:09

Oh, that'd be cool. Yeah. You can yeah.

39:11

You're right. You can do things beyond just being

39:13

that Jimness yourself. I always think about that

39:16

with with athletes how tough that transition

39:18

would be because you do start at such

39:20

a young age and it is your whole

39:22

life. And then all of sudden when that chapter's

39:25

over, it's not something that you went

39:27

you'd have your life, then you go to college, and you get

39:29

your job, you get your education. It's like, no,

39:31

I've been doing this since I was like five years old,

39:33

and it's it's what I know. So that's kinda like

39:35

what you know. Yeah. Yeah. That's gotta be tricky.

39:37

I wanna know how fans of gymnastics

39:40

could support and advocate for the sport.

39:42

Like, and that even just fans, people in general because

39:45

JVM doing his very best out

39:47

here just advocating for you

39:48

guys, best to support What people

39:50

do to help the sport and to help

39:52

you guys? Yeah, well, I think

39:54

that's incredible that he does gymnastics and

39:57

it just shows like, you know, diagnostics

39:59

is for everyone. Everyone can do it.

40:01

And if you if you want to

40:03

do it, then do it. You know? Like, the

40:06

amount of older athletes that

40:08

I've seen who did gymnastics before and just

40:10

came back to do gymnastics because I love it.

40:12

Like, why not? That's so incredible. But

40:15

I think the biggest thing that they can

40:17

do or even if you're involved in the

40:19

sport or not is, like, I think it's important

40:21

to talk about the challenges that we face in

40:23

the sport so we can better it. But as

40:25

well talk about, like, the positive aspects

40:27

and, you know, the joy and how

40:29

great the sport can be. And so just

40:31

kind of, like, developing the sport in that way

40:33

by having those conversations. Yeah.

40:36

I think that's I think it's so important as we

40:38

move forward. Just with, like, the culture

40:40

and sport, and trying to create

40:42

a better culture for the next generations

40:45

and the young ones coming in. And then as well,

40:47

like, you know, coming out to events and supporting

40:49

the athletes and also just like tuning

40:51

in and following their journey whether that's following

40:54

them on social media or, you know,

40:56

whatever they're involved with. And

40:58

then I know for athletes as well, like sometimes

41:00

funding is a big thing

41:02

as well. So, you know, there are avenues that

41:05

you can go into to support athletes

41:07

for sure and be able to kind of get back and help

41:09

their journey and feel like you're a part of it as

41:11

well. But I think that's one of the biggest

41:13

things for me is like, knowing the community

41:16

and everyone who's been behind me. And then when

41:18

I go represent, I'm like

41:20

thinking about all these people who have helped

41:22

me to get to where I am and I'm like, it's

41:24

not just me competing right now. Like, this is

41:26

for everyone, and everyone can kind of

41:28

feel a part of that. And yeah. So I think

41:30

that's kind of cool but as well in

41:32

sport, something that I think, which I

41:34

think would be cool at the Olympic level is

41:36

that we I feel like

41:39

in in this society, we, like, really

41:41

only celebrate, like, the medal

41:43

winners of, like, Olympian?

41:45

You know what I mean? Like, I

41:47

think everyone who goes to the Olympics just

41:50

realizing how incredible that is and whether

41:52

you had a top five performance or top ten

41:54

or you had, like, a personal best or just,

41:56

like, even making it there is incredible. And

41:58

so just kind of, like, celebrating that a little

42:01

bit more. I mean, like, medals are great. Like and,

42:03

like, people who win, like, phenomenal. Truly

42:05

phenomenal. Of

42:06

course. But, like, I'm telling you, like, the fourth

42:08

place, fifth place finish, like, it's

42:10

tough, but that's still, you know,

42:12

something to be celebrated. I mean, you're in the,

42:14

like, zero point 001 percentage

42:17

of people that can do that. It's,

42:19

like, out of billions of humans,

42:22

And it's like the tiny little, like, handful of

42:24

people that can be able to say they did

42:26

that is incredible.

42:29

Yeah. And then sometimes we lose that

42:31

because we're like, oh, like, we felt short

42:33

of what we should have. But really, like,

42:35

that's still an incredible accomplishment,

42:38

then Even if it was like a personal

42:40

record or like a best ever,

42:42

you know, just like having more

42:44

understanding or support, I guess. And

42:46

knowing, like, well, what it took you to get there

42:48

and, yeah, maybe just everyone

42:51

would know that and be able to support that a bit

42:53

more. Totally. I think that's really important.

42:55

I I don't think I even really ever thought about that, but

42:57

that's really good point that you just made. And I feel like

42:59

there's so much conversation around

43:02

mental health in your

43:05

sport lately. Well, actually, just athletes

43:07

in general. I feel like they're talking about it more, which

43:09

is incredible. But what

43:12

changes would you like to see in the way athletes'

43:14

mental health is addressed and supported? Because

43:16

my God, that was controversial when some

43:18

owned vials that that, you know, took herself out

43:20

and and she made a good point. It was like,

43:23

if I'm not mentally in a good place,

43:25

I could really hurt myself and I have to

43:27

put that

43:27

person, you know. And I just feel like people

43:30

need to be more supportive,

43:32

I guess, in that way. No, absolutely.

43:34

And I think that's where, like, having

43:36

a better understanding of what the journey

43:38

actually is. And, like, for

43:40

us as Jimmiss, when

43:42

we heard that, like, that's what she was experiencing,

43:45

what they call, like, the twisties or whatever.

43:48

Like, we all right away understood. Like,

43:50

we knew and we were like, that is

43:52

no joke. Like, you don't mess with that, especially

43:54

in a competition setting where the

43:56

maps are hard. You're not in your home

43:58

club where there's like, a soft pit

44:01

or soft mats to be able to, like,

44:03

figure this out. You don't know where up and

44:05

down is. You don't know where your

44:08

hands or your feet or your head

44:10

are gonna land, and that's terrifying.

44:13

And so I think it was really

44:15

truly incredible for her to be able to stand

44:17

up on that platform and prioritize her

44:19

safety and her health. Yeah.

44:22

And her mental health over, you

44:24

know, results. And then also

44:26

she was putting her team first in that way because

44:29

if she wasn't gonna perform or be able

44:31

to perform, and her

44:33

team was counting on her to do that.

44:35

Put in someone else who is able

44:37

to do that and you can count on And

44:40

so stepping down actually was her prioritizing

44:42

her team. Right. So, you know,

44:44

I mean, as an athlete in the sport,

44:46

I really get that, and I really understand it. But

44:48

think it's just looking at

44:51

athletes as

44:53

humans first, really. And

44:55

knowing that, like, what we do

44:58

is really hard and I

45:00

think everyone's gone through this especially after

45:02

COVID like mental health is important

45:05

and everyone struggles with that. Whether

45:07

you do sport or whether you, you know,

45:09

sit at a nine to five job or you host

45:11

a podcast, like, everyone has

45:14

those struggles. And I

45:16

think it doesn't matter which

45:18

level you're on, it doesn't make it any

45:21

more difficult than someone else. So

45:23

I think it's just like kind of realizing that athletes

45:26

are humans first. And we're

45:28

not just athletes or

45:30

like machines. And I

45:32

think also too for us we

45:34

need to kind of learn how to prioritize our

45:37

mental health as well because sometimes we're like,

45:39

well, I should be able to do it or I should be

45:41

able to handle this. But really, it's

45:43

that fine line of like, yes, you can push yourself

45:46

to a certain level. But then there's

45:48

a like a threshold that you're going

45:51

to

45:51

pass. That it's not safe and you shouldn't

45:53

be and it's okay to take a step back and

45:55

prioritize your health. That

45:57

is such a good point. But like athletes

46:00

really do have that ability to push

46:02

beyond even like physical pain.

46:05

But when it gets to a point of it not

46:07

being safe is when you really

46:09

do need to take a step back and look at

46:11

like what what am I doing here?

46:13

Yeah. And part of that too, I think,

46:15

is like education too because,

46:17

you know, and, I guess, the culture

46:20

in sports, but, like, we will push ourselves

46:22

to the extreme and to the max. And sometimes,

46:24

like, we probably shouldn't or

46:26

to have people you know, in your

46:28

support team who can see that and

46:31

be like, okay. Actually, we need to,

46:33

like, kind of intervene or, like, take a step back

46:35

and, you know, we can come at this. From

46:37

a different angle after after we've taken

46:39

some time to actually work on what we need to work

46:41

on. But, yeah, like, just

46:43

kind of definitely working on that because

46:46

I think that's something that's super important within

46:49

sport and and within life, but just

46:51

being a little bit more understanding

46:53

that everyone's thought things are going

46:56

through and sometimes you just say,

46:58

yeah, you've got to prioritize your safety and

47:00

your mental health first. Over, you know,

47:02

the expectations and the, you

47:04

know, pressure from other people who

47:06

don't even know or understand what

47:08

you're doing.

47:09

That's the only reason for it is. It's always

47:11

the people who are uneducated and

47:13

don't do their research and don't think

47:16

anything else. Like, they just think that

47:18

this is the little bubble and they know how it

47:20

is and they don't know anything of outside of it and

47:22

those are the ones that are always so freaking

47:24

loud. No. Exactly. So

47:26

I always say, like, it's the people in

47:29

your your bubble or the

47:31

ones who are on your team who actually

47:33

really understand everyone else. They have

47:35

like a distorted view or an outside picture

47:37

of what's actually going on. So you

47:39

shouldn't be like trying to do

47:42

stuff for them. You should be doing it

47:44

for you or your team. But, yeah,

47:46

if you're doing it for them, they actually don't really

47:48

understand

47:49

what you're doing or why you're doing it or plan

47:51

that you're going through. It's also so cool that everything

47:54

you're saying can relate to so many different things

47:56

in life. Like, it it just it just

47:58

makes sense. To think the way that you're thinking

48:00

in so many aspects and avenues of life

48:02

other than just like, you know, that what

48:04

you're talking about. It's it's so cool that

48:07

whoever's listening can relate it to that. So Thank

48:09

you so much for taking the time to come on

48:11

and talk about all these things. And I know

48:13

JVN is gonna be so proud of of

48:15

us for doing this. And oh, wait.

48:17

Can't believe I almost let you go without confession. Oh,

48:21

yeah. Oh, I was waiting for that. Oh my gosh.

48:23

I'm sorry. That's like my favorite part of every

48:25

podcast confessed to me. My child's my

48:27

Canadian child. Okay.

48:37

So I was I was saying this before. I was like, I

48:39

was trying to figure out something that was embarrassing.

48:41

And then I was like, I'm just embarrassing. Like, every moment

48:44

of my life is embarrassing. So the Everyone

48:46

knows this already. I I texted

48:48

my friend. I was like, I need an embarrassing

48:51

story. And he was like, well, everything

48:53

you do is embarrassing. So that's all. This

48:56

is a little bit tougher, maybe. But so

48:58

I I have a confession, I guess. It's something that

49:00

people don't really know. It's not really embarrassing. And then

49:02

I have just like a couple embarrassing embarrassing

49:05

things. Right. So my favorite place to travel to

49:07

is Japan. And the first time I

49:09

went, I was, like, twelve. I was on this, like,

49:11

big group trip and I remember

49:13

I I was trying to get an apple

49:15

juice from the vending

49:17

machine and it had an

49:19

apple on it. I'm like great, like getting

49:22

my apple juice. And I'm like taking

49:24

a sip. I'm like, this kind of tastes

49:26

a little weird. Like, I don't know. But

49:29

it's probably apple juice. It's fine. And

49:31

drinking it turns out it was like an alcoholic

49:34

like apple drink because

49:36

I guess you could buy alcoholic drinks

49:38

like, can

49:39

you

49:39

be, like, anything out of the vending machine there?

49:41

You

49:41

can literally get anything. Anything you

49:43

want and apparently alcohol at twelve

49:46

years old. So, that has was

49:48

great. Like my dad was there,

49:50

he didn't even know. Did you start feeling drunk

49:52

at twelve? Or you're like, what am I feeling? Or

49:55

did you not drink

49:55

it? I was really sipping this so

49:58

slow slowly because it tasted like super

50:00

gross. Like, you know, I was

50:01

like, this But it's gotta be, like, busy

50:03

apple juice. I don't know.

50:04

That's hilarious. Anyways yeah. And then

50:06

it was pointed out that it was, like, alcoholic

50:09

and everything made so much sense you

50:11

know, yeah, my dad was there all, like, laughing

50:14

because it's just hilarious, but that is funny.

50:16

And

50:17

then I'm I'm pretty sure I proceeded to, like,

50:19

walk down the street into a poll also

50:22

at one point of that trip. So,

50:24

really, it was a great great trip for me.

50:27

And then I realized that I'm just embarrassing and

50:29

I need to embrace it. And now every aspect

50:31

of my life is kinda like that. So, yeah,

50:34

if you just follow me, I'll probably do embarrassing

50:36

things. But the one confession,

50:38

that's not really embarrassing, but I don't think a lot

50:40

of people know it when I was

50:42

preparing for my second Olympic Games, Rio

50:45

twenty sixteen, I actually

50:47

got a massive tooth infection, like

50:50

a week before I was supposed to go down. Oh,

50:52

no. My my cheek

50:54

was, like, massive. Like,

50:56

two sizes on one side. My eye was,

50:58

like, swollen up. Like, And

51:01

so I go to the dentist and he's like, yikes.

51:03

Like, I don't even know how this happened, to be honest.

51:05

It's all like, I think I've blacked it out. And

51:08

anyways, I had to get my tooth extracted

51:10

because I needed to, like, go down and

51:13

compete. And we went through the antibiotics.

51:15

We're gonna, like, do it in time. So I

51:17

missed, like, a whole week of prep camp before

51:19

it went down, went down to the

51:21

Olympics, had to, like, go see the dentist

51:23

there to make sure everything was okay, and

51:25

I could, like, go upside down and So

51:28

that was my Olympic prep. Prep

51:30

for twenty sixteen. I had

51:32

a massive leg face, tooth infection, got

51:34

my teeth pulled out, and then went and competed

51:37

at the

51:37

Olympics. So I don't know how many people

51:39

know that.

51:40

Yeah. That's crazy.

51:42

Yeah. To have this

51:43

in affected tooth removed before

51:45

and misprepped to go to the Olympics. That's

51:48

crazy.

51:49

Oh, yeah. Yeah. The the stuff we go

51:51

through. Now I A lot of people don't know that

51:53

behind the scenes, but My gosh. Yeah.

51:56

I can't that's they need to make a TV show about

51:58

y'all. That that just needs to be a thing. I'm gonna, like,

52:00

all executive produce it. We're making this a big

52:02

thing. Because that's on television.

52:05

Yeah. It's great. Right.

52:07

Great. TV. Okay. And also I wanted to

52:09

make sure you got my wine because I want

52:11

to oh, you

52:14

cool. That'd be super lumpy. I'm so

52:16

excited. I haven't had a chance to try it yet, but

52:18

I'm really excited

52:19

too. Well, let me know how you like it

52:21

and we'll send you more if you

52:23

drink it all and and you like it. So let

52:25

me know. Thank you so much. You're

52:27

such a sweetie and so easy to talk to, and

52:29

I just had such a great time with

52:31

you. So I really appreciate your time and

52:33

you're just lovely. Yeah. Thanks

52:35

for having me on. So super fun

52:37

and I'm very and keep trying the wine,

52:39

so will let you

52:40

know. I'm gonna love it. I I'm just alrighty.

52:42

I know. I'm Caitlyn Your session

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