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Jenna Fisher. And I'm Angela Kinsey. We were

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on The Office together. And we're best friends.

2:04

And now we're doing the Ultimate Office re-watch

2:07

podcast just for you. Each week we will

2:09

break down an episode of The Office and

2:11

give exclusive behind the scenes stories that only

2:13

two people who were there can tell you.

2:15

We're The Office, ladies. Good morning. Good

2:18

morning. Good afternoon. Good evening.

2:21

You're very peppy for such a serious subject. I

2:25

am really excited about this. I

2:28

am really excited about Deceptis food. Everyone,

2:31

it's murder. Oh, dun dun

2:34

dun. Season six, episode

2:36

10, written by Daniel Chun

2:38

and directed by Greg Daniels.

2:41

And we have a special treat this week

2:43

for you for our summary. We do. OK,

2:46

so you guys, you know I have

2:49

a big southern family. We're spread out

2:51

between Louisiana and Texas. And

2:53

I know it's not Savannah, Georgia, but

2:56

my sister, Billy Joe, has a great southern

2:58

accent. And I asked her to read our

3:01

summary today. And she did.

3:03

Here it is. I

3:05

do declare this been a murder. Michael

3:08

attempts to distract his employees with a

3:10

murder mystery party after everyone hears rumors

3:12

that the company might be going bankrupt.

3:15

Jim wants everyone to keep working

3:17

and is frustrated by Michael's game.

3:20

Meanwhile, Andy attempts to ask

3:23

Aaron out on a date. Angela,

3:26

she nailed it. She nailed it. Jenna,

3:29

I was so tickled by this. I knew

3:31

I wanted someone in my family because this

3:33

episode partly takes place

3:35

in Savannah, Georgia. Yeah. So

3:38

I knew I would want someone from my southern family

3:40

to give the summary a go. And thank you, Billy.

3:42

Thank you, Billy, for giving it a shot. Well, she

3:44

can do the summary anytime, Angie. Billy Joe, did you

3:46

hear that? Right now, she's

3:48

like, no, no, no, no, no. Well,

3:53

let's get into Fast Facts. Fast

3:55

Facts number one is all about

3:57

our new writer for this episode.

4:00

Daniel Chun, we know him as Danny.

4:03

He started on the writing staff for

4:05

season six. He was a supervising producer

4:07

and this was his first script. Danny

4:11

had previously written on The Simpsons

4:13

for six years. I was

4:15

able to get back in touch with him, which was so fun. He

4:18

told me that he knew a lot

4:21

of the Office writers socially just through

4:23

the comedy writing community. He knew BJ

4:25

for a long time. He

4:27

said that he loved being at The Simpsons, but

4:30

he kind of felt like 80% of working on

4:32

that show was just punching up jokes, unless you

4:34

were the show runner. So he

4:36

didn't get to do a lot of long form writing

4:38

there, I guess. He said he

4:40

was really hungry for a different challenge. BJ

4:43

had always been a big supporter of his writing

4:45

and he showed Mindy and Paul some stuff that

4:47

Danny had written just for fun on MySpace.

4:51

Remember MySpace? My God, yeah. He

4:53

said that gives you a sense of how long ago this was.

4:56

But the stuff he had written on MySpace

4:58

got him a meeting. They brought him in

5:00

and that's how he got hired

5:02

to be one of our writers for season six.

5:04

See guys, you never know, you never

5:07

know. Yeah, all that stuff that you're

5:09

writing, if it's a blog, if it's

5:11

a vlog, I don't even know. You're

5:13

creating it. All the logs out there.

5:15

All of them. Someone could see it.

5:17

Yes. So fact

5:19

number two, I was

5:22

able to talk to Danny a little

5:24

bit about the inspiration for this episode

5:26

of murder. What was it?

5:28

He said this was a card on the

5:31

wall. What did the card say?

5:33

The card said, Michael makes everyone

5:35

play a murder mystery game. It

5:38

was one of the pitches they had come up with

5:40

over the summer. He also remembered

5:43

a card that never got made. It

5:45

was this. They go on

5:47

a ski trip and someone makes a huge stain on

5:50

the wall. Ew. I

5:52

know. But he was pointing out, this is

5:54

how simple a card could be.

5:57

But they picked this one and then

5:59

they. had to figure out how, why,

6:01

what happens. How

6:04

is this a whole episode? So on

6:06

Mom Detectives, a card could be two

6:09

ladies on a train with a succulent.

6:11

Yes, and that has to be a

6:13

whole episode. That's an episode, yeah. And then

6:15

you have to turn that into something. Yeah. Danny

6:18

said they also, for season six,

6:20

had all of these mini arcs

6:23

that they were going to add

6:25

to the season. Those are little

6:27

stories that take place over several

6:29

episodes. And one of those

6:31

ideas was that Dunder Mifflin was going to

6:33

go bankrupt. And

6:36

another one was that Jim would get

6:38

this co-manager position. That's already happened. But

6:40

this episode of the Murder Mystery Games,

6:42

they thought it tied in really well

6:45

with that mini arc of Dunder Mifflin

6:47

going out of business. Oh,

6:49

for sure. So there is a DVD

6:51

commentary for this episode. Oh, so it

6:53

features Ellie Kemper, Danny Chun, and Greg

6:56

Daniels. And they talked a little bit

6:58

about this episode setting up three major

7:00

arcs, like exactly what you're saying. The

7:03

crumbling of Dunder Mifflin, the

7:05

sale to Sabre, and

7:07

Andy and Erin. Yes, the Andy

7:09

and Erin. You're right. That's another one. Danny

7:12

also told me that the

7:15

writers played one of these Murder

7:17

Mystery Games for research in

7:20

the writers' room. He said they

7:22

noticed that in all of the games, the

7:24

people had silly pun names. So they

7:26

knew they were going to have to do that. There was

7:28

a CD with a narrator that would help you

7:30

along. He said in the game

7:33

they played, his character was a Frenchman. And

7:35

so he was stumbling through a French accent while

7:38

they were playing. And that kind of gave them

7:40

the idea that they should have a game where

7:42

everybody has to have accents. He

7:45

also said that they originally thought

7:47

that this game could be murder

7:50

in little Italy. But

7:52

they were afraid that would feel too much

7:54

like the Mafia episode. And so

7:56

that's when they pitched the game B

7:58

set in Savannah. Well, Danny

8:00

said mainly he just remembered feeling like

8:03

the game was not that much fun.

8:05

It involved a lot of acting. And

8:08

so he thought about that. And

8:11

he thought that's why people like Andy

8:13

and Michael would like the game. I

8:16

just really like how much playing

8:18

this game in the writers room

8:20

informed them. You know?

8:22

Yeah. Because Danny was like, I don't like

8:24

playing this game. I don't like doing an

8:26

accent and it's too much acting. I

8:29

feel like he now could write very

8:31

well for Angela and Stanley. Yeah. But

8:34

he's like, somebody would like this. I guess

8:36

Andy and Michael. I thought

8:38

this was an amazing episode. So Danny, my

8:40

gosh, your first one out of the gate.

8:42

Home run. I really liked it too. All

8:46

right. Fastback number three. Angela is

8:48

a fan question from Megan H

8:50

in Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, who

8:53

would like to know if either of us

8:55

have ever done a murder mystery event like

8:57

in the show. Great

9:00

question. I actually have a story,

9:02

Jenna. Do you have one? I

9:04

do too. Okay. You go

9:06

first. Oh, okay. I was once invited

9:09

to a dinner party where they said there will

9:11

be dinner and then we will be playing a

9:13

game as a group. Did

9:15

they say what the game was? No. Oh.

9:18

And when I got there at dinner, the

9:21

host explained the game while we ate

9:23

our meal. Guess who the hosts

9:25

were? Who? Oscar

9:27

Nunez. What? Yes. And

9:30

his wife Ursula. Oscar

9:33

hosted you for a murder

9:35

mystery game night. Yes. Was

9:37

this before this episode or

9:39

after? Before this episode. Oh my

9:41

gosh. So the game was

9:43

called Mafia. Oh yeah. This is really a

9:45

popular game. It was like all the rage

9:47

in Los Angeles for a very long time.

9:49

I don't know if this went over the

9:51

whole country, but people were crazy

9:54

about this game. Crazy about it. And they

9:56

had the rules. I was actually texting with

9:58

Ursula yesterday. I was like. Ursula, what

10:00

did you guys call it? Because in my memory,

10:02

they called it killer. And she goes, no, Angela,

10:05

it's called mafia. Yes. And so there are about

10:07

10 of us at the dinner party. And there's

10:09

a few different ways you can play this. But

10:11

the way we played it was there was one

10:13

mafia, one killer, a

10:16

detective, a doctor, and a narrator,

10:18

and then you had the civilians.

10:20

OK. And the narrator kind of

10:22

moves it along. The narrator's who

10:24

knows who's who, right? Oh,

10:26

OK. That seems like not

10:28

as much fun of a part. It

10:30

actually is. I've been the narrator before, and it's

10:32

kind of fun. Oh, OK. Go ahead. I never

10:35

played mafia, which I kind of can't believe, because

10:37

I'm a sucker for these games. I

10:39

want us to do this. Oh my

10:41

gosh. Ear Wolf Company Party. We

10:44

play mafia. Have you guys played it? Sam,

10:46

Cassie, have you played mafia? No,

10:49

I haven't. But I do remember the

10:51

absolute stranglehold that it had over everybody

10:53

for a while. Oh, yeah. Wurdle or

10:55

Animal Crossing at that time. Everybody

10:57

was playing it. So in

10:59

mafia, the game is divided into two

11:02

phases, day and night. During

11:04

the night, everyone closes their

11:06

eyes, and the

11:08

narrator awakens each role.

11:11

So the narrator starts with

11:13

the mafia person, lets them know who it

11:15

is, because in each round, it's someone new.

11:18

And as the mafia person, the

11:21

way you kill someone is you

11:23

wink at them. So you have to

11:25

be real sneaky. At least that's how we played it. And

11:27

then the doctor can choose to save someone

11:29

or not. And

11:32

the civilians have to try to figure out,

11:34

because every time they awaken, someone is dead.

11:37

Oh. Right? Because the mafia person kills

11:39

someone each time. So the civilians begin

11:42

questioning each other, and there's a detective

11:44

role. But I imagine, though,

11:46

also the mafia person and

11:49

the doctor, everyone's pretending

11:51

to be a civilian. Yes. Right.

11:53

Yes. And it's so

11:55

much fun. And one time, I was the mafia person,

11:59

and no one figured me out. Out. Fight.

12:01

But does that say it says you

12:03

are very good at pretending to be

12:06

a civilian? That he or diabolical. It

12:08

was really really fun. But yes, I

12:10

played a version of this murder mystery

12:13

with Oscar in realize. How.

12:15

Before this episode. For this episode that's

12:17

very cool. I know that crazy I did

12:19

not have to wear a funny hat or

12:21

have an accent. I should say. I

12:24

guess you could have taken to. Well.

12:26

It is very funny that you

12:28

say that angela because I did

12:30

a mini deep dive on the

12:32

murder mystery game genre and they

12:34

believe that it began in the

12:37

first half of the nineteenth century

12:39

with a party game called wink

12:41

Murder. One

12:43

player is secretly selected as a murderer

12:45

and they kill other players by winking

12:48

at them. That's what. If

12:50

you get killed, you have to

12:52

count to five before you die.

12:54

Yes, Rice said yes because you

12:56

can't just. Give it away. See

12:58

You have to like make a moment of it.

13:01

This is so weird. is mafia just

13:03

based on week? So far it's own

13:06

little. I will say this.

13:08

If you play mafia with your friends and

13:10

your the murderer and you're not good at

13:12

winking. Muscle know who

13:15

I never thought of that's like

13:17

me. I think I'm I'm good

13:19

with one eye. You. Just

13:21

winked at me. Great with both I

13:23

a related fine oh. Well.

13:25

Now sorry am I right bots you

13:27

closer to sign the right A You

13:29

do regular week with this I and

13:31

then the other I you go. I

13:34

know. So I

13:36

cited week in normal speed with one

13:38

eye. but the other one is like

13:40

moon Moon. Yeah Moon Moon. I can

13:42

see you concentrating on it to try

13:44

to wink. Yeah, See. You gotta figure

13:46

out what's your good. I. Will. I

13:49

have never played mafia. I have

13:51

never. get a murder

13:53

mystery game yeah what's your

13:55

story but i was an

13:57

actor my an murder mystery

14:00

didn't theater. Come on! Yep.

14:02

Is there any footage of that? Can I

14:04

see any of that? I have a photo

14:06

of myself in my

14:09

crushed velvet gown. I played

14:11

several parts in several different shows. This was

14:14

my very first paid live

14:16

theater acting gig. I

14:18

did it in St. Louis, Missouri at the Lymph

14:20

Mansion. A bunch of people would

14:23

come in. Wait, was it like an old mansion?

14:25

Like a haunted sort of cool like old mansion?

14:28

Yeah, and I even had a ghost encounter

14:30

there. Come on. I was lurking there. I

14:32

did! I did. I saw the lavender

14:34

lady. Come on. I

14:37

did! What is the lavender lady? I

14:39

don't know. I didn't know who the

14:41

lavender lady was, but I was in

14:44

what was one of the rooms of

14:46

the house that they designated for the

14:48

actors to change in. Uh-huh. And no

14:51

one was supposed to come in there because that was

14:53

our changing room. And I heard

14:55

the door open behind me. And

14:58

I looked up in the mirror in front of

15:00

me and behind me by the door I saw

15:02

a woman. And I said, I'm sorry you can't

15:04

be in here. And when I turned around there

15:07

was nothing there. The lavender lady.

15:09

So I was fired up. I

15:12

went to the owner of the place and I

15:14

said, listen, if you're gonna give us a place

15:16

to change our clothes you need to make sure

15:18

it's secure. A woman walked right into that room.

15:20

And he said, no one was

15:22

in that area. And I said, well explain to me

15:24

how this woman walked in. He said, what'd she look

15:27

like? And I

15:29

said, well, she was, I kind of tried to

15:31

describe her, like as I was describing her I

15:33

realized like, she's wearing a big hat

15:36

and like a dress and

15:39

sort of, I realized I was describing an old-timey

15:41

lady. And then, you know,

15:43

face got all white. And he was like, oh my

15:46

gosh, you saw the lavender lady. What?

15:48

Yeah, I'm out at that point. I'm bye-bye.

15:50

Bye dinner theater career. I'm gone. I have

15:53

to go entertain folks. They're on their salad

15:55

course. I've got to get out there and

15:57

tell them a murder has happened.

15:59

Wow. Wow. Yeah. Oh

16:02

my gosh, that's creepy. Yeah. Wow,

16:05

you did dinner theater, lady. You did theater

16:07

while someone was like buttering a baguette. Well

16:10

here's the thing, we did it between courses. So

16:12

we'd bring everybody in, we'd sit them down, they're

16:14

getting their drinks, we're handing out slips of paper.

16:17

It was our job during this mingle

16:19

to find the people who seemed outgoing

16:22

enough to play the major roles. Because

16:24

you don't want to give- Wait, the

16:26

people eating dinner play a part? Oh

16:28

yes. Everybody gets a part. Everybody

16:31

has a funny name. Someone in

16:33

the room is the murderer. Oh

16:35

I didn't realize that. I thought you

16:37

were performing a murder mystery while people

16:39

ate dinner and watched you. No,

16:42

interactive improvisation slash scripted.

16:44

We had jokes, we had to

16:47

keep people kind of on the

16:49

plot. But you

16:51

know, you'd walk people to their table, you- waiters

16:53

giving them a drink, you're hobnobbing with them in

16:55

character, and you find the people that seem like

16:58

they can play the different roles. And then you've

17:00

got these slips of paper and you hand it

17:02

to them. And then

17:04

later you'd be like, where's Bobby

17:06

Oilton? Bobby Oilton? Oh

17:08

yes, I saw you when you came in. Bobby,

17:12

what do you have to say for yourself? And then

17:15

he has to read off of his little slip

17:17

of paper. You were Michael Scott. Yes, I sort

17:19

of was. You were Caleb Crawdad. I

17:21

was sort of Caleb Crawdad, yeah. Wow.

17:25

Yeah, so I did that for two

17:27

years. But I

17:29

got 50 bucks a night. That

17:31

was like good money. For

17:34

acting, for doing what I loved. I

17:36

need mom detectives to go to a

17:39

murder mystery dinner theater. Put

17:41

it on a card, Jenna. Yeah, we

17:44

should investigate the Lavender Lady sighting. Yes!

17:47

We'll get to the bottom of it. We will, but we'll

17:49

have to be in character where it outfits. Yes,

17:52

because we'll pretend like we're part of the dinner theater.

17:54

Part of the show. My God, it

17:56

writes itself! My

17:58

God! If

18:00

I see this on T V one day I'm I'm

18:02

sure you some world as it's not you and I.

18:05

I. Now taken some butts. Are

18:07

eight. Let's take a break in college and. So.

18:17

Lady, you know how we went recently

18:19

to Chicago to visit least family. So

18:22

what we did was we got an

18:24

error. Be and be in the same

18:26

neighborhood that his brother lives so that

18:28

than I am glad I was. Yeah

18:30

they could walk between the houses that

18:32

we had our own schools and we

18:34

could. Make breakfast in the morning.

18:37

We do the same thing when we go to Colorado. Well.

18:39

I love the Air Bnb experience and

18:41

I was talking to the host and

18:44

she told me that every time they

18:46

go out of town to travel or

18:48

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18:50

place that we've how we were able

18:52

to get it and I was like

18:54

that. So brilliant because you've got this

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site has a while you're vacationing, you're

18:58

also earning money. I was like it's

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brilliant. Yeah, I love that you know

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Dwight Schrute presents this year

21:37

in martial arts, colon updates, advancements

21:40

and etc. Yes, like Jim said,

21:42

there's always lots of changes to

21:44

the 1000 year

21:47

old martial arts traditions. Dwight's going

21:50

to start with Phyllis. I clock some

21:52

moves. Phyllis charges Dwight with what looks to

21:54

be a two finger eye jab. Dwight

21:57

stops her with an arm block that I guess would have

21:59

broken her arm and And then he's going to flip her over. He

22:03

tries to engage Kevin. Kevin's a big no.

22:06

And all of this is going to lead to

22:08

Dwight fighting himself. Yes. I'd

22:11

like to point out in this scene at

22:14

39 seconds Meredith is wearing the designer sweater

22:16

vest again. I cluck that

22:18

too. I mean, I feel like this is some

22:20

sort of personal trolling of me. Well,

22:23

I have a few tidbits about this cold open. Oh,

22:26

really? I have some as well. Well,

22:29

I'll start by saying we got a lot

22:31

of mail of people asking if

22:33

Dwight's self-fight was choreographed. And

22:36

I would like to tell you guys

22:39

that was all Rainn Wilson. Bravo, Rainn.

22:41

Yes. He came up with

22:43

all of those moves based on descriptions in

22:45

the script. We did have our

22:47

stunt coordinator Eric Solky on board for the

22:50

day just to make sure that Rainn didn't

22:52

actually hurt himself. Well,

22:54

in the DVD commentary, Danny shared that

22:56

the original version of this cold open

22:58

ended with Dwight and Michael kicking

23:01

each other in the groin. Oh,

23:03

yeah. But instead they

23:06

went with a pitch from Jen

23:08

Salada where Dwight fights himself instead.

23:11

It still ends with Dwight punching

23:13

himself in the groin, but

23:15

it was originally scripted to be

23:18

a self-kick in the

23:20

groin. It said this. How

23:22

did he kick yourself in the groin? Exactly.

23:25

Yeah. Here's what the script said. Quote,

23:28

Dwight snaps his leg up and kicks

23:30

himself in the balls. Dwight's

23:33

face shows equally the pain of the

23:35

kick and the pride of winning. That's

23:38

so great. On

23:41

the day, they realized there was no

23:43

way for Rainn to self-kick himself in

23:45

the balls, that it was just sort

23:48

of physically impossible. However,

23:50

Danny said in an interview that

23:52

Greg was convinced there was a

23:55

way to do it if

23:57

maybe they could attach a...

24:00

strap to rain a

24:02

leg that would help sort of hoist

24:05

it up somehow. He even sketched it

24:07

out on the back of

24:09

his script, which is a very

24:11

Greg move. Can't you see

24:13

Greg turning a script over and like sketching

24:15

out the self groin kick strap? Here's

24:18

how it works. Here's the mechanics. I want that

24:20

sketch and I want it in a frame. Right?

24:22

Where is that sketch? In

24:25

the end, obviously, this was

24:27

not happening. So they had rain punch himself

24:29

in the brain. Greg shared

24:31

that he really enjoyed directing the

24:33

cold open and the tag for

24:35

this episode because they were like

24:37

mini action movies or the closest

24:39

thing our show got to little

24:42

action sequences. And Jenna Ellie shared

24:44

something. She said the cold open

24:46

was filmed the morning of the

24:48

Emmys. Oh, so after rain beat

24:50

himself up, he had to go

24:52

to the Emmys. We all did.

24:54

Wow. We worked that day. We have

24:57

shared this before that many times we

24:59

worked right up until an event and we

25:01

would have to get ready at the set.

25:03

Yeah. And the Emmys were

25:06

traditionally on a Monday night. Yeah. Which

25:08

was rough because it would be like the

25:10

beginning of your work week. Oh, and you'd

25:12

be wrecked for the whole rest of the

25:14

week. Wow. We worked this

25:16

day and then we went to the Emmys. Oh,

25:20

one last thing. I have a

25:22

Dwight flyer count. Oh,

25:24

because clearly you need to have multiple

25:26

flyers for your year in martial art

25:28

update. We have

25:30

one on each of Jim's class walls

25:33

and we have one on the door by accounting. Three

25:36

in view during the whole cold open. I don't

25:38

know about the rest of bullpen or

25:40

the kitchen or the break room. I know.

25:42

I'm sure they're everywhere. They're not there for

25:44

the rest of the episode, but there's three

25:46

visible for the cold open. Well, now

25:48

we're going to get into this episode. It

25:51

opens with some weird

25:53

banter between Michael and Andy

25:55

about sculpting standup comedy. And

25:58

it's interrupted by Dwight. receiving

26:00

an email and Michael's

26:02

like you need to be more specific I

26:04

get like eight emails a day. Eight Jenna.

26:07

He gets eight. It's really weird

26:09

that before we started recording today

26:12

we were discussing our email inboxes.

26:15

Yeah so guys Sam and Jenna are

26:17

really tidy about their email inbox like

26:19

they get to zero and then

26:21

they asked me what my inbox said and

26:23

my inbox says 1,582. And Sam and I

26:28

are still processing that and we're,

26:31

it gave you like hives per minute. Yeah we're having

26:33

a hard time. I don't mean this as

26:35

an attack but the way you live is

26:38

chaos. Sam's

26:41

at zero right now I'm at 10 unread

26:44

emails. Actually do you remember in the break there

26:46

was a great Jenna moment where you were looking

26:48

for an email and you couldn't find it and

26:50

Jenna goes I'm sorry can you not? Yeah

26:53

I was like oh you can't find the email I

26:55

sent you? I think I

26:57

sent it on Monday or Tuesday. Well I got a

27:00

few emails since I last checked and now I'm 1,583. See you

27:02

do what Lee does which is

27:08

if you can tell that it's something you

27:10

don't need to read like it's I don't

27:13

know an ad or something you don't delete

27:15

it you just skip it and then it

27:17

stays unread. Yes. I delete

27:19

those I don't want that cluttering me. No

27:21

you do it right that's

27:24

the way you should do it but if it doesn't

27:26

bother you then you're not doing it wrong. It would

27:28

bother me if I did it your way. Well

27:31

Michael only gets eight so I guess he's not

27:33

super stressed out. I guess he's

27:35

not. The email that

27:37

Dwight is talking about is from David

27:39

Wallace and it is referring to an

27:42

article in the journal. I mean

27:44

the wall. Yeah as Michael calls

27:47

it. Oh the wall right. Oscar

27:50

finds the article but in order to read

27:52

it you have to pay an extra dollar

27:54

ninety nine to get past the paywall. Danny

27:57

shared that they spent like five

27:59

hours reading. researching the rules of

28:01

the Wall Street Journal's paywall at that time.

28:04

He said apparently if you're referencing a

28:06

specific publication, you cannot make up a

28:08

fact like that that's not true. Oh,

28:12

so at that time that was the

28:14

rule of the paywall. Interesting. Why did

28:16

it take five hours to get that

28:18

information? I think they just had to

28:20

get it correctly and Jenna they didn't

28:22

have the Google back then. They

28:24

had Google back then. It was like

28:27

2009. No. They

28:29

didn't have the same search engines. 100% they did. How

28:34

old do you think Google is? It's

28:37

new. Google is new. I'm going to

28:39

Google when did Google start? Well,

28:42

I don't know why it took him five

28:44

hours, but that's what he said on the

28:46

DVD commentary. They had to be thorough, Jenna.

28:49

What were you Googling in 2009? Don't

28:52

put this on us. Any number. I'm not

28:54

saying you. I'm saying you. People

28:57

listening. Hold on. What

28:59

did you Google in 2009? Google

29:02

started September 4th, 1998, but their search

29:04

engine. I'm

29:07

going to get more specific. Thank

29:10

you. When did the Google search engine really

29:12

come into effect? Not really

29:15

come into effect. When did people

29:17

start using the Google search engine?

29:21

It really became popular around 2000. Thank

29:23

you Sam. I don't believe it. No

29:26

one was Googling until like two years ago.

29:34

Okay, everyone. I discovered Google

29:36

a couple of years ago. Listen, I

29:40

don't know why it took them five hours, but they clearly had

29:42

to get it right. Maybe they had to get

29:44

on the phone with someone. I'm not judging our

29:46

writers, Jenna. I just thought it

29:49

was a long time. Well, Jenna's judging

29:51

you guys. Here's what I want to

29:53

point out about this scene as we're

29:55

all gathered around the computer and everybody's

29:57

reading this article off of Oscar's computer.

30:00

We're learning that Dunder Mifflin might be,

30:02

I guess, going into debt, going

30:04

under, filing for bankruptcy. Angela,

30:07

this entire scene, you

30:10

are blocking me. You cannot

30:12

see my face in the scene because

30:14

you're standing directly in front of me.

30:16

And then finally, you move out of

30:18

the way and John blocks me. I

30:21

took pictures. Did you take a picture? Yes, I did.

30:24

It was so funny to me because one of you

30:26

is blocking me the whole time. We

30:28

talked that morning and we were like, today

30:30

is the day, John. You and

30:32

I, I'm going to

30:34

wear my three-inch heels and I'm going to make

30:36

sure I block that shot. Here,

30:38

I put them all together. We

30:41

really are. Why didn't anyone

30:43

say anything? I don't know. So

30:46

we don't know how Pam feels about this

30:48

article because we can never see her. You

30:50

can't see her face.

30:53

Sorry. I

30:55

rarely was able to block anyone. Personal

30:58

victory, I guess. I know. Well,

31:01

what's funny is they all stop at the dollar 99. They're

31:03

like, I guess we're not going to

31:05

know what really happens with the company.

31:07

And then Jim enters in his information.

31:10

Yes. This sends Michael on a spiral

31:12

and he calls David Wallace. But

31:14

David's in a meeting. I

31:16

was curious about two moments in this scene.

31:19

Okay. One was I was

31:21

wondering if Steve improvised the way he said,

31:24

you should spy on him. Wouldn't that be so

31:26

hilarious? Okay. I

31:29

was like, did they tell Steve to say it like

31:31

that? I went to the script and

31:33

it said on that line in

31:35

parentheses, Valley Girl. Oh

31:38

yeah. So they did give

31:40

him sort of a line read. Yes.

31:43

The other thing I was curious about was the line in

31:45

the script when Michael says, catch you on the flippity flip.

31:47

I was like, that sounds like something

31:49

Steve would improvise. No. So

31:52

that line was in the script

31:54

too. And Danny shared on the

31:56

DVD commentary that Gene Stapnitsky actually

31:58

pitched. Catch you on the flippity flip. the flippity-flop for

32:00

a different episode and the writers loved it but

32:03

it didn't make it in so they kept trying

32:05

to get this line in. Oh my gosh. Episode

32:08

after episode and they finally got it in.

32:10

Well you know when Michael goes to the bathroom and

32:12

he's been vomiting but then he tries to tell Kevin

32:14

he was just pooping.

32:18

We had a fan question from Kelly C. in

32:20

Michigan who wrote the line just poopin you know

32:22

how I be? That was

32:24

Danny. Danny said it's one

32:26

of the lines he's most proud of. It's

32:29

a great line. Oh I

32:31

also wanted to say one more thing Angela. Back

32:33

in the office when Michael calls and tries to

32:35

get in touch with David Wallace once

32:37

again we had Suzanne Watson as the

32:39

voice of David's assistant Stephanie and she

32:41

is always great. So great. So

32:44

in the script Jenna they

32:46

built in more scenes to show Michael

32:49

really spiraling. You know he calls David,

32:51

he vomits in the bathroom. He

32:53

also just starts pacing in front of

32:56

Erin's reception waiting for the phone call

32:58

waiting to see if she signals him

33:00

that someone's calling. It's

33:02

so funny. I want to play it for you.

33:04

It's in the deleted scenes. The first part I'm

33:07

calling Michael is pissed. If

33:10

it's not for me don't make it look like it's for

33:12

me okay. I'm sorry. Because I'm going to. Okay

33:14

I'm sorry. Michael. I'm

33:22

sorry before that I did not know what you were talking about.

33:25

Don't okay. You

33:28

want any. Don't even talk. Don't

33:30

even talk to me. Okay. All right. If

33:33

they do call don't. Only if they call me then

33:35

talk to me okay. If it's anything else or if

33:37

you want to apologize to me for calling me when

33:39

they weren't calling then don't do

33:41

that. All right. Do

33:43

you understand. You're very very nice

33:45

but you're you're really you're you're kind of

33:47

pissing me off okay. Hard. Did

33:52

she laugh at the end. No. I

33:55

thought she said sorry. So

33:57

her sorry looks like she's about to laugh.

33:59

But then she turns it into like a

34:02

cry and then poor

34:04

Erin she's so confused by Michael

34:06

it continues and you've got to hear it. Don't

34:08

cry please. Don't

34:11

cry. Everybody sort of

34:13

has drunk so. Talk

34:15

it up to that. We're all together. Well

34:18

don't laugh either. Just don't cry and don't laugh.

34:21

Good? Alright. It's

34:24

such a funny moment. Oh

34:27

my gosh. I love the dynamic between those

34:29

two. They really did a good job of

34:31

creating a different dynamic than what Pam and

34:34

Michael had. Yeah I mean. She so earnestly

34:36

wants to help him. She so earnestly wants

34:38

to be liked by him. Yeah. And

34:41

Michael with Pam it's the reverse. Michael wants to

34:43

be in Pam's life. Yes.

34:46

Well instead of all that he's going to go into

34:49

his office and

34:51

play the Sean Mullins song Lullaby.

34:54

I found out from Randy Cordray that it cost us $45,000 to

34:56

have this song in the show. To

35:00

have this clip. Hmm. Well

35:02

I have a background catch at five minutes 29

35:04

seconds. Michael

35:07

says he needs more Mullins and he hits

35:09

the volume button on his keyboard repeatedly. Okay.

35:12

Greg shared that they worked really hard

35:14

in editing to get that sound to

35:16

match Steve hitting the keyboard and Danny

35:18

shared that after the episode aired the

35:21

comment boards were full of people saying

35:23

that that was a Mac sound and

35:25

Michael is using a PC. Oh

35:28

my gosh. Is that funny? Yes.

35:32

Oh wow. They picked the wrong

35:34

volume up sound. Well

35:36

Jim's going to come in during all of this. He's

35:39

like Michael you have to pull it together.

35:41

Like basically he's saying you're our leader and

35:44

if you're freaking out it's freaking out everyone.

35:46

We need to just make this a normal

35:48

day. What's on the agenda? Michael's

35:50

like well we're supposed to have a

35:52

staff meeting and Jim's like great. Right.

35:55

Everyone in the conference room. Have we ever seen

35:57

Jim so excited to go into the conference room

35:59

before? No, but he says

36:01

he only slacks off when things are good. So

36:03

I guess you know when the hits the fan

36:06

He becomes very professional It's

36:09

so funny because I feel like people

36:11

would be equally freaked out by Jim

36:13

suddenly having a work ethic They

36:15

like oh, oh what's happening stuff

36:17

is bad Jim wants to work.

36:20

Yeah, mom is getting serious. What's

36:22

going on? Exactly In

36:24

the conference room Jim addresses

36:26

the group at

36:28

five minutes fifty six seconds Ryan is

36:31

wearing glasses That was my

36:33

big takeaway. Ryan is wearing

36:35

glasses and everyone's in the

36:37

conference room, but Kelly Where's

36:40

Kelly? Where is Kelly? Let me tell

36:42

you she's only in one scene this

36:44

entire episode What was she doing? Where

36:47

was Mindy? I don't know Michael

36:50

has to leave the conference room to take

36:52

a phone call and Dwight has

36:54

one of my favorite lines in the episode. What

36:57

is it? He says he needs me

36:59

seat saved infinity. Oh Our

37:03

kids save seats. They're still in that phase

37:05

of their life. We're like, I want that

37:07

seat. That's my seat seat

37:09

saved infinity Dwight came

37:11

to play. Well, Michael's gonna come back

37:15

His phone call was bad news Angela. Yeah,

37:18

very bad news There's been

37:20

a murder in Savannah

37:23

and that was the end of the act break It

37:25

was supposed to be they were

37:27

supposed to go to commercial Yeah, and then

37:30

when they were editing they thought that would

37:32

be stressful. They thought it would be mean

37:34

also to the audience But

37:37

instead we have this Michael

37:39

talking head where we also

37:41

see him going through his

37:43

closet He's looking for something

37:45

office armoire. Yes, there

37:47

are many games inside and we realize

37:49

there has not been a real murder

37:52

But we're gonna play a murder

37:55

mystery game. Yes, because Michael thinks

37:57

games help distract you in stressful

37:59

situations Yes. Did you

38:01

see the games in his armoire? I did. Let's

38:03

read them off. Alright, I don't

38:05

know if we wrote them in the same order. Well,

38:08

you do one, I'll do

38:10

one. Alright, connect four. Stratego.

38:12

Operation. Trouble. Sorry. Risk.

38:15

Battleship. That's it.

38:17

That's what I had. Me too. Well,

38:19

the game he brings in to the

38:21

conference room is called Bell's Bourbon and Bullets,

38:23

a murder mystery dinner party game. Yes, we

38:26

got a lot of mail. People wanted to

38:28

know, is this a real game? Can I

38:30

buy it? Can I play it? Well,

38:32

it was a made-up game. The

38:35

box and all the cards and the

38:37

props inside were created just for our

38:39

episode. The box and

38:41

the logos were designed by our

38:43

new graphic designer, Henry Sane, and

38:45

Phil Shea worked with Danny Chun

38:48

to come up with all of

38:50

the props and paraphernalia that each

38:52

character would have. And

38:54

Randy even shared with us

38:56

that the box and cards

38:58

were printed by Phil's go-to

39:00

prop manufacturing company called The

39:03

Hand Prop Room. Now

39:05

we know where all this stuff comes

39:07

from! Well, they crushed it. I thought

39:09

it looked so amazing. I zoomed in on

39:12

it. I love the catchphrase on the front.

39:14

What was it? Everything you need to have

39:16

a deadly good time. Ooh! Ooh! And there

39:18

was like a fan with blood on it

39:21

and like a pistol and a glass of

39:23

bourbon. I love it. Jim is

39:25

not for this. Jim does

39:27

not want this, but Michael's like, you

39:30

owe me one. Tube City. Tube

39:32

City. Yeah, he

39:34

shut down Tube City, so he owes

39:36

Michael one. Tube

39:38

City is a bunch of tubes with a hamster

39:41

inside that was going to go all over

39:43

the whole office. We had

39:45

a fan question from Emmy in

39:47

Baltimore, Maryland. Who set up

39:49

Tube City? Phil Shay? Yes,

39:52

Emmy. Yes. And the

39:54

hamsters were provided by Bob Dunn's

39:56

Animal Services. Denise Sanders

39:58

was our hamster room. Greg

40:01

shared they only had half an hour to

40:03

shoot the whole b-roll of Tube City. Oh

40:05

my gosh. Not a lot of time. No.

40:09

And he said that this whole b-roll idea was

40:11

kind of an afterthought and so they

40:13

really didn't have a ton of time to do it. Tube

40:16

City made me laugh out loud. Laugh

40:18

so hard. The little hamster in the

40:20

very end, he's just cute little hamster nose coming

40:22

out of there. I know. Well,

40:26

back in the conference room, Michael plays the recording that

40:28

sets up the whole murder

40:30

mystery game and I am so

40:32

sorry to say that despite my

40:34

googling... Mm-hmm. ...that you

40:36

just learned how to do in like the last five years ago... Just a couple

40:38

of years ago. ...and Randy's research,

40:40

we could not find the name of

40:43

the person whose voice is on the

40:45

tape. Anywhere. So listen, if

40:47

you are the voice of Bell's Bullets

40:49

and Bourbon, will you let us know? You

40:52

can write to us at officeladiesatearwolf.com.

40:55

We'd love to hear from you. Well,

40:57

this is what the voice on the CD player said.

41:00

Should I do it in an accent? Please.

41:03

Please, Angela. Okay, who knows

41:05

how this is going to go. August

41:07

the 5th, 1955. It's

41:09

a sad day down here in

41:12

Savannah. Local magnet Bill

41:14

Burban was killed last night and

41:16

all y'all have congregated tonight for

41:18

a meal to celebrate Bill as

41:20

he passes on to his great

41:23

reward. You're not just here

41:25

to pay your respects. You

41:27

have to figure out which of y'all is

41:29

the no count scoundrel who killed him. That

41:33

feels good. I'm

41:35

ready for my dinner theater. You'd

41:38

be great. You'd love it.

41:40

It's a lot of improv Angela. I'd have

41:42

a great time and I also love like

41:44

vintage costumes. Oh, we

41:46

got to do one of these. Nifty fifties

41:49

murder mystery dinner theater. A special

41:51

episode of mom detective. I

41:53

mean, God, we just don't

41:56

have enough time to do it all. Michael.

42:00

starts passing out the character cards and

42:02

the props, Angela does not like

42:04

her character. No. We

42:06

had a fan catch from Katie K.

42:09

in San Jose, California. I think

42:11

I have a Southern Angela catch. When

42:14

Angela says I don't like my character

42:16

at 8 minutes and 54 seconds, Cassie

42:19

pulled an audio clip. Let's hear

42:22

it. Michael, I

42:24

don't like this game. It's scary. It's

42:26

not scary. I don't like my character.

42:28

Who are you? Voodoo Mama Juju,

42:30

the witch doctor of the Savannah Swamps.

42:32

I'm not comfortable with this. Hmm.

42:35

There's so many words that are Southern. I

42:38

don't like this game. I don't like

42:40

my character. I don't like my character. I

42:42

don't like the game. I don't like my

42:44

character. It's scary and it's set in a

42:47

swamp. Yeah. Voodoo Mama

42:49

Juju. Yep. I hear a hint

42:51

of it. I don't think it's your strongest accent

42:55

flip, but I hear

42:57

a hint. It's always there guys. I

42:59

want to point something out as we rewatch

43:01

these episodes, Jenna and I

43:04

have talked about this. Sometimes we'll just watch

43:06

a scene and a flood of memories come

43:08

back that we had totally forgotten about. It's

43:10

like in a little folder in your brain.

43:12

Yeah. Hasn't been opened in years. As

43:15

I watched this scene, when Angela

43:17

goes to leave and Michael

43:19

says, they'll be baby carrots and

43:21

she pivots back to her seat.

43:23

My skirt is so bunched up and

43:26

I instantly remembered that

43:29

this was the week I wanted to

43:31

wear tights. I was cold. I never

43:33

wore tights and I wore thick winter

43:35

tights, but I was wearing a gray

43:37

pencil skirt that would climb up all

43:39

day because of the

43:41

static and the tights. I

43:44

wrestled that skirt this whole episode and when

43:46

I watched this moment with the baby carrots,

43:48

I was like, oh my gosh, that

43:50

was the week with the skirt that kept

43:52

crawling up my legs. They used

43:54

to spray me with static guard.

43:57

Yeah. It didn't matter though because of

43:59

my tights. Anyway,

44:01

this is a week I wrestled a skirt. Sometimes

44:04

those are the things you remember when you rewatch a

44:06

show. And you know what? We

44:09

are going to leave no detail unturned in

44:11

this rewatch. In this oral

44:13

history that we're creating for all

44:15

time, we're leaving nothing out.

44:18

Nothing out. We are going to

44:20

tell you the week that Jenna's allergies were bad. Yep.

44:23

And she sneezed a bunch. And this is the

44:25

skirt bunch. This is the skirt bunch. Forever to

44:27

be known. And now it's the skirt bunch episode.

44:30

We got a continuity catch from

44:32

Leah in New Albany, Indiana, who

44:35

says, I think I have a continuity catch.

44:38

So you know, Michael gets mad

44:41

and he takes Oscar's blackberry at nine minutes, 25

44:43

seconds. Yeah. Michael

44:45

is seen holding it in his hand at nine minutes,

44:48

44 seconds. But

44:50

then at nine minutes, 46 seconds,

44:53

when Pam stands up to do

44:55

her character intro, Oscar is

44:57

looking down again. Like maybe he's looking

44:59

at his blackberry. And then at

45:01

nine minutes, 59 seconds, the camera

45:03

switches angles and you can clearly see

45:05

that Oscar has his blackberry back. Good

45:08

catch. I know. I thought that was

45:10

pretty good. Yeah. Well,

45:12

speaking of Pam does offer to go first

45:15

and she speaks in an accent

45:18

to introduce herself

45:20

as Deb Youtant. Deb

45:22

for short. Then

45:24

we're going to go through. We're going to

45:27

meet Andy's character, Nathaniel Nutmeg and

45:29

Aaron's character, Naughty Nellie Nutmeg.

45:33

This is when Andy is very sad to learn that

45:35

they are brother and sister. Phyllis

45:39

is Beatrix Bourbon. Michael

45:43

is successful playboy Caleb

45:45

Crawdad. Angela, we know

45:47

you are Voodoo Mama Juju.

45:51

Well, Danny revealed that he wrote names

45:53

for the whole cast and

45:55

Phil created cards for everybody

45:57

and we didn't get it. to

46:00

hear all the names but he told me what

46:02

they were. Do you want to hear? I absolutely

46:04

do. All right Kevin

46:07

is Dixieland. Okay

46:10

Oscar is Chad Anuga.

46:14

Dwight is the butler

46:17

Jeeves Julep. Jim

46:19

is George Apich. Ryan

46:23

is Paul Mettow. Meredith

46:26

is Connie Federate. And

46:29

then he can't remember who got assigned

46:31

these characters but he did have to

46:33

write two more prop cards and they

46:35

were Barbie Q and Carl

46:39

Earned Greens. Earned Greens

46:42

like it's a play on collared greens but

46:44

it's like Carl Earned Greens. So

46:48

those are all the names you didn't hear. Well

46:50

I did make note of

46:52

all the props that went

46:54

with each character. Voodoo Mama

46:56

Juju Angela had a

46:58

voodoo head and a hat

47:01

she had to wear. Yes I

47:03

did have a wardrobe fitting for that hat.

47:06

Somewhere there are photos of me and multiple

47:08

versions of that hat and that's the one

47:10

the writers put. Pam

47:12

had lace gloves. Yes. Meredith

47:15

had a long cigarette. Like

47:17

a cigarette holder. Yes. Kevin

47:20

had a cigar. Phyllis had a

47:22

feathery fan. Dwight had white butler

47:24

gloves and it looked like a napkin over

47:26

his arm. Erin had a lace

47:28

garter and there was a deleted

47:30

scene of her putting it on that didn't make

47:32

it but you see it ever so slightly at

47:34

the end when she runs in the conference room.

47:37

Andy had on men's sleeve

47:40

garters. And

47:42

I could see what everyone else had but those

47:44

were the main ones that were visible. So

47:46

Andy is going to try to teach Pam

47:48

how to do a better accent because everyone

47:50

thinks she just sounds like Forrest Gump and

47:53

he is able to do like

47:56

a Florida panhandle accent and then

47:58

he gets a into his

48:00

description of a Savannah

48:03

accent where he says it's like molasses

48:05

coming out of your mouth. Yeah. It's

48:07

so good. Danny said they

48:09

were originally planning for Andy to have

48:11

a horrible accent, but

48:13

on the day they realized that

48:16

Ed was very good at these

48:19

different accents and so they rewrote

48:21

it. Well he is from Georgia

48:23

and he probably has a good

48:26

ear for all the accents there. Interestingly

48:28

enough, there was an Andy talking head

48:30

in a shooting draft that did not

48:32

make it. This is what it

48:34

said. I went to dialect

48:37

camp every summer from the age 7 to

48:39

18. Then I was a counselor for 10

48:42

years. Hmm. What?

48:45

It was Andy's childhood. So

48:47

we learned in the meeting that he

48:49

spent a summer in Toulouse apprenticing for

48:51

a fomager. Now we find out that

48:53

he went to a dialect camp for

48:56

years. Well it's interesting

48:58

Angela because we have wondered if

49:01

deleted scenes count. If

49:03

something doesn't make it into an

49:05

episode, does it still

49:07

count in that character's lore in the

49:09

story? Right. Whatnot. And sort of in

49:11

the canon of the show, is it

49:14

part of that? And we sort

49:16

of said no. No. It's

49:19

what aired. Yes. That is what would

49:22

be the show Bible. Well

49:24

I found an old article on

49:27

office telly.com from

49:29

2007. Right

49:32

when Google started. Right. There

49:37

was an interview with Greg Daniels. And

49:39

he talked about this? Yes. What do you say? He

49:43

said quote, for the writers,

49:45

in our minds those scenes have

49:47

happened. We wrote them, we shot

49:49

them, and at the last minute

49:52

I cut them in the editing room. But

49:54

we're relying on them anyway for the

49:56

mythology of the show. Wow. Okay,

50:00

so, per Greg, if

50:03

it made it in the shooting draft,

50:05

if we shot it, right,

50:07

then it's part of the mythology of the

50:09

show. So that would mean that, yes, Andy

50:11

did send a summer as a fromagee. He

50:15

did do this weird accent

50:17

camp. But

50:19

here's the problem. Well, the

50:22

exception that proves the rule would be

50:24

Pam's painting. It

50:27

was Pam's painting. They

50:29

shot it being destroyed. It stayed

50:31

off the wall for several episodes.

50:33

It's still off the wall in

50:35

this episode. In this episode, there's

50:37

still just golfing inspiration, but

50:40

it came back. So,

50:42

I don't know. I

50:44

think it's still up for debate, Greg. Sorry,

50:47

Greg. We don't know. This

50:50

interview does predate the destruction of

50:52

the painting. So, okay. He's

50:55

allowed to change his mind on that one. People

50:57

are pretty impressed by Andy's accents. Kevin

51:00

has a request. The Swedish chef. Andy's

51:03

like, what province is he from? And

51:05

Kevin says, he lives on Sesame Street, don't ask.

51:09

This got such a huge laugh at the table read.

51:12

Like people lost their minds. And

51:15

when the final edit of the episode came

51:17

and Greg saw it, it wasn't in. It

51:20

got cut. Really? Where's

51:22

Kevin's line about Sesame Street? He

51:25

absolutely loved this line. And

51:27

Greg fought really hard to

51:30

have it put back in. Well, I'll

51:32

have you know, Stephanie M. from Salt

51:34

Lake City, Utah would like

51:36

to point out that the Swedish chef does not

51:39

live on Sesame Street. He's from the Muppet Show.

51:41

Yes. Which makes the line even

51:43

funnier. Yes. Well, why don't we

51:45

take a break? Because when we come back, I

51:48

need to point out a line that

51:50

Phyllis could not say. Oh,

51:52

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We're back. And

54:00

as you guys rewatch this episode with us,

54:03

please go to the conference room scene where

54:05

Phyllis has to say, I overheard

54:08

you asking the butler whether pistol

54:10

was kept. Okay. Jenna,

54:13

do you remember every time Phyllis got to the

54:15

word pistol, she

54:18

started to snicker and we

54:20

all started to break? No. If

54:23

you listen to it, she says,

54:25

pistol, because she

54:27

can barely get through that word. We

54:29

got tickled every single time. Oh

54:32

my gosh. Now that you say

54:34

it, I remember that. That

54:37

would happen with Phyllis in general, too. Yeah.

54:40

It was everything. It was the Southern accent. She

54:42

had to be doing the fan. And then when

54:44

she said, pistol, it made me laugh. I

54:48

remembered instantly how tickled we got.

54:51

Well, guys, Creed is going to arrive to

54:54

work. He's late. He's sorry. Yeah.

54:57

He's like, what's going on? And

54:59

Michael says, as Caleb Crawdad, there's

55:01

been a murder and you're

55:04

a suspect. And

55:06

Creed is like, oh, okay, great. Can I just

55:08

have a... Let me get settled. I'll be right

55:10

back. I'll be right back. And he just high tails it

55:12

right out of there. Well,

55:14

some people on some message

55:17

boards think that this is an

55:19

indication that Creed is the Scranton

55:21

Strangler. Oh. Sorry.

55:25

That reaction was like a cartoon. Oh,

55:29

I do declare. Yes,

55:32

my goodness. However,

55:34

I will say this. We

55:37

see Creed leave. We see him jump into a

55:39

car. I was

55:41

like, oh, I think this is our first time

55:43

seeing Creed's car. I even asked Randy about it.

55:46

He said that our transportation

55:48

coordinator, Jesse Duchover, rented that

55:51

car from Cinema Vehicle Services.

55:54

It is a picture car. That means cars that

55:57

are rented out to productions to be in movies

55:59

and TV. And that the rental

56:01

facility was just a few blocks away. And

56:04

we established this as Creed's car. And

56:06

whenever we needed to see Creed in his car,

56:08

this was the car they rented from this facility.

56:11

Until he drove a Porsche years later.

56:14

Correct. But in the future,

56:16

when we see news footage of the police

56:19

chasing who they think might be the Scranton

56:21

Strangler, look at the car. Oh.

56:24

It is not the car that Creed jumps into

56:26

right here. Now, does

56:28

Creed have many cars at his

56:30

disposal after his work

56:33

as a Scranton Strangler? Possibly yes.

56:36

But I did just want to point out that

56:38

there's a little bit of a car thing

56:41

going on. I mean, Creed also, we have

56:43

found out, lives under his desk and has

56:45

a home in Canada. So, yeah, anything

56:48

can happen with Creed. I have some things to

56:50

share as well. Greg

56:52

said that Creed running to his

56:54

car was actually a lot harder

56:56

to shoot than it looks. Really?

56:59

First of all, the timing of it. I mean, Creed had to really

57:01

book it. He had to run

57:03

to the car. He had to jump in and

57:05

then doing this back out and pull out move

57:07

with a car as big as a Lincoln Town

57:09

car, which is what it is, was not

57:11

easy. So this quick little

57:14

moment actually took a little bit of planning.

57:17

And lady, it's at this moment I realized

57:19

that Creed, the character and me

57:21

in real life, have a little something in common.

57:24

What's that? We have both driven

57:26

Lincoln Town cars. Oh,

57:29

you had a Lincoln Town car once?

57:31

My grandmother's car was a green Lincoln

57:33

Town car with a white top. And

57:36

my grandmother's who taught me how to drive, because

57:38

in the summers I would go stay with my

57:41

grandparents for a visit. And when I

57:43

was turning 16, she took me

57:45

out in her enormous Lincoln Town car.

57:48

And that's what I learned to drive a car in. Wow.

57:51

You know, I learned how to drive in an enormous

57:53

car as well. What was the enormous car? It was

57:55

a 1978 Pontiac Catalina. Hey!

58:00

long car. That's a big long car. My grandmother had

58:02

pedal extenders so that was

58:04

good so I wasn't right up on the steering wheel.

58:06

You sort of had to learn in your grandmother's

58:08

car. Why? Because I'm short. Well

58:11

yeah those pedal extenders really helped you out. They

58:13

were very helpful. Apparently I made my mom stressed

58:15

out when she rode with me to teach me

58:17

how to drive. She gave

58:19

it to your grandma. Yeah my dad was like I'm not getting in the

58:21

car with her so my grandmother said

58:23

I'll teach her to drive and she

58:25

did. Well as your BFF who's ridden

58:28

in many cars with you, you're a

58:30

great driver. Thank you. Yeah no pedal

58:32

extenders anymore either. The seat goes all

58:34

the way up. Although I wouldn't mind.

58:37

Really? Yeah because then you're not so close

58:39

to the steering wheel. Yeah so

58:41

now we have a little romance in the kitchen. Andy and

58:44

Erin they're chatting. They're

58:46

still doing their accents but he

58:48

asked her out on a date and she says yes. But

58:51

then later in the conference room other

58:54

people start asking her out on a date

58:56

and she's saying yes and then Andy is

58:58

like oh wait was she just in character

59:00

in the kitchen? Yeah did I really going

59:02

on a date? Did I ask out naughty

59:05

Nellie or did I ask out Erin? Well

59:08

in the conference room at 12

59:10

minutes 36 seconds there is a

59:13

really good shot of Kevin's character

59:15

card where you can very plainly

59:17

see that his name is Dixieland

59:20

and he's also has an extra

59:23

prop in this scene. He's got a lot

59:25

of money. Oh yes it

59:27

said in the script that he was one

59:29

of the richest men in all of Savannah.

59:31

Yeah well so much so that he walks

59:33

around carrying a lot of money. Oscar

59:37

interrupts the game he shares

59:39

that he received an email

59:41

from corporate instructing the accounting

59:43

department to stop all payments

59:45

to vendors. Wow that's serious.

59:47

Yeah well Michael insists that

59:49

Oscar give no more details unless

59:52

he is speaking in character.

59:54

Yeah he cannot use his Yankee accent

59:56

Michael says. So

59:59

Oscar tries. to give

1:00:01

important news about the company as

1:00:04

a southern character. We got

1:00:06

mail. Mm-hmm. Fan mail

1:00:08

flurry on this one. Starting with

1:00:10

Zach M. from Venice Center, New

1:00:12

York. Does Oscar struggle

1:00:14

with a southern accent in real life

1:00:16

or was this just more of his

1:00:19

brilliant acting? Zach, it

1:00:21

was just brilliant acting. A hundred

1:00:23

percent amazing acting job by Oscar.

1:00:26

We did about six takes of this and

1:00:29

Danny Chun spoke about this in an

1:00:31

interview with officetelly.com. He reminded me that

1:00:35

at first Oscar was doing

1:00:37

a really deep voice. Mm-hmm.

1:00:40

And it was the last take where he

1:00:42

did the super high voice. Yeah. That we

1:00:45

used in the show. None

1:00:47

of us were expecting it. We

1:00:49

had gotten used to his low voice southern

1:00:51

accent. That's right. We had

1:00:53

a fan question from Jenny F. in Amarillo,

1:00:55

Texas and many others who wanted to know

1:00:57

how did we keep a straight face during

1:01:00

this scene. Oh, we

1:01:02

did not. No. Especially not on that

1:01:04

last take. Not the one you see.

1:01:06

No. When he came in in that

1:01:08

higher falsetto, he's talked about the green,

1:01:11

but we were on the floor. Even

1:01:14

Steve broke and Steve never

1:01:16

breaks. It made it onto

1:01:18

the season six bloopers. I asked

1:01:20

Cassie to pull it so we could hear it. This

1:01:24

here plantation is run low

1:01:27

on greenbacks. Um, we

1:01:30

ain't got no money to pay

1:01:32

those people who sell us the

1:01:34

slaves and the money. I

1:01:36

can't do this. Basically.

1:01:39

You can start to

1:01:41

hear Steve. I can

1:01:48

recognize everybody's different laughs. I

1:01:50

do too. I hear John.

1:01:52

I hear definitely Brian and

1:01:54

Steve. Oh, yeah. Ah,

1:01:57

man. I Rewatched the bloopers for that as

1:01:59

well. And from the camera

1:02:01

angle from our backs my head

1:02:03

is just spent over like I'm

1:02:05

sent over assists. Oh

1:02:09

I have to say when ever

1:02:12

Oscar and Steve were paired together

1:02:14

in a scene. Just.

1:02:17

I don't know what it was those two I think

1:02:19

because they were the to that never broke. They.

1:02:22

Got each other. They really did

1:02:24

Zola. I wish you know there

1:02:26

were more Oscar Michael moments like

1:02:28

in Real Washing. I'm like Kashmir.

1:02:30

I really wish that. Oscar

1:02:32

had to like do a sales call a

1:02:35

spiteful or something. While I know there's some

1:02:37

good ones coming up, Oh yes, This.

1:02:39

News from Oscar really bums people out

1:02:42

and they go back to works. Also

1:02:44

the murderers revealed on the tape it

1:02:46

was so us and she was really

1:02:48

bummed to see. Felt like she was

1:02:51

doing a good job. And.

1:02:53

He wants to figure out. If he

1:02:56

asked Aaron out or she asked out

1:02:58

naughty nellie right? So they have this

1:03:00

great scene of front reception eyesight. Ed.

1:03:03

And al he did such a great job. Just.

1:03:06

Plain to people who like each other but

1:03:08

are afraid to admit it. I.

1:03:11

Agree. It. Ultimately ends up that

1:03:13

neither of them admit that it was real

1:03:15

when it was real for both of them.

1:03:18

Yeah, So. It's not

1:03:20

gonna happen yet, but we

1:03:22

are solidifying the information that they're

1:03:24

into each other. Merkel.

1:03:26

Insists the game as an over. he

1:03:29

is now. A think he's

1:03:31

in a full spiral. He will

1:03:33

not break character. Danny talks about

1:03:35

this and the challenge of writing

1:03:37

for Michael when Michael isn't his

1:03:39

true self. Oh, he said he

1:03:41

had to write for Michael as

1:03:43

Caleb cried and. Inbred

1:03:46

compared this episode to grief counseling

1:03:49

when Michael was unaware of what

1:03:51

was motivating him and the episode

1:03:53

was playing out in his subconscious

1:03:55

and he said this episode is

1:03:57

a variation of that where Michael

1:03:59

is. I'm not sure what's motivating him,

1:04:01

but he's locked into this character. That's

1:04:03

really interesting. You know, Pam and Jim

1:04:06

are going to have a talking head

1:04:08

where they ask the question, has Michael

1:04:10

snapped? Is he stuck in

1:04:12

character? What's going on? I

1:04:15

noticed something in this talking head. What?

1:04:18

I am wearing the same

1:04:20

outfit that I wore

1:04:22

in Double Date, which was

1:04:25

last week's episode. It's

1:04:27

exactly the same. I kind

1:04:29

of noticed it earlier in the episode,

1:04:31

but this talking head solidified it for

1:04:34

me. Yeah, now that

1:04:36

you say it, it's the exact same

1:04:38

outfit. Exactly the same.

1:04:40

It's that very kind

1:04:42

of dark gray shirt with

1:04:44

that lighter gray blazer. Yes.

1:04:47

Thank you. I was trying to get the words.

1:04:50

The only thing that's different is that in

1:04:52

Double Date, I'm wearing some little hoop earrings

1:04:54

that I'm not wearing in this episode. I

1:04:58

tried to figure out how did this happen? Why

1:05:01

would Alicia put the same outfit

1:05:03

in my trailer on back to

1:05:05

back weeks? Well,

1:05:07

she didn't. I have

1:05:09

a mom detective moment. What? What'd

1:05:12

you find out? I found out that

1:05:14

we filmed these episodes in a different

1:05:16

order than they aired. We

1:05:19

originally filmed Double Date, then

1:05:22

Koi-Pond, then Murder. Oh.

1:05:27

So there was a week in between. They

1:05:29

aired as Koi-Pond first,

1:05:31

then Double Date, then

1:05:33

Murder. So I

1:05:36

had gone up to the bigger belly

1:05:38

bump, the Belly Bee, and it was

1:05:40

only meant for these three episodes. We

1:05:43

had to tailor the clothes to the bump. I

1:05:47

think Alicia was trying to get

1:05:49

a little extra mileage out of

1:05:51

my B-Bump wardrobe. She

1:05:53

thought, well, as long as I throw an

1:05:56

episode in between, we won't notice that Pam

1:05:58

has recycled this outfit. then

1:06:00

they ended up airing back to back.

1:06:02

So Pam's in the same clothes. Same

1:06:04

clothes, two weeks in a row. Good

1:06:06

mom detective catch. Thank you. You

1:06:09

know Dunder Mifflin closing is really gonna

1:06:11

hit Pam and Jim hard. They both

1:06:13

work there. They're married and both working

1:06:16

at the same company. With a

1:06:18

baby on the way. Yes, I know. And

1:06:21

they're talking about that in Jim's office when

1:06:23

Michael busts in and he's like,

1:06:25

come on Deb, we need you, we need

1:06:27

you. And Pam

1:06:29

goes at 17 minutes, two

1:06:31

seconds. If you're curious what is splattered

1:06:34

on the floor by Meredith's head, that's

1:06:36

roast beef. It's from the

1:06:38

little lunch platter that is there on

1:06:41

the table. You can see all

1:06:43

the roast beef has been placed on the floor. Jim

1:06:46

has really lost his patience at this

1:06:48

point and he demands to speak to

1:06:50

Michael and Michael snaps

1:06:53

back at him so hard. He's like, you

1:06:55

shut up. Yeah, and

1:06:57

we have one of those drama moments. Here's

1:07:00

the thing. We've been

1:07:02

wondering is Michael losing it? Has

1:07:05

he gone crazy? And here's where

1:07:07

you realize he's actually

1:07:09

quite lucid and this is a

1:07:12

choice. He is choosing to lose

1:07:14

himself and help the office lose

1:07:16

themselves in this game. Yep. It

1:07:19

is a strategy. During all

1:07:21

of this, David Wallace finally calls back.

1:07:25

Jim takes the call. I

1:07:27

thought Andy Buckley did such a

1:07:29

great job because you can just

1:07:31

hear how distracted slash

1:07:33

worried slash trying to like put out a

1:07:36

bunch of fires like his

1:07:38

day, you know? Yeah. Yeah,

1:07:40

he was just sitting back in the annex at

1:07:42

Kelly's desk making this phone call in real life.

1:07:45

That's where he was. Well, everyone

1:07:47

knows that Jim has just taken this call and

1:07:49

they're so anxious about what he's gonna say. And

1:07:52

there's no really anything good to

1:07:54

say. And so Jim decides

1:07:57

to join Michael. And he's like, turns

1:07:59

out. out there's been another

1:08:02

murder. And the look on Michael's

1:08:04

face of like, oh, thank God,

1:08:07

he's with me. Well, I love

1:08:09

their talking head. Michael has

1:08:11

this line that ranks so true to me.

1:08:13

He says, today is the hardest I've worked

1:08:15

in a long, long time. That

1:08:17

was a pitch from Steve. Yeah, it's

1:08:20

good. It's so good. I didn't

1:08:22

know that he pitched that. Yeah.

1:08:25

I mean, I also just thought of how

1:08:27

hard Steve worked this week. Yeah. Like,

1:08:30

that was a hard week. Yeah.

1:08:33

Well, now Andy, Michael and Dwight are in

1:08:35

a three way standoff with like finger guns.

1:08:38

They're like pointed at each other. I guess

1:08:42

Jim shares that Andy revealed himself to be

1:08:44

a double agent and then so was Dwight.

1:08:46

And as it turns out, so was Michael.

1:08:49

So it's six o'clock and Jim would really like to go

1:08:51

home. Yeah. But guess

1:08:53

who he needs to get out of

1:08:56

the conference room. Pam is part of

1:08:58

this standoff. She is. Her finger guns

1:09:00

are drawn as well. And she says

1:09:02

to Jim, grab the key, start the

1:09:05

car. She's going to slowly back out

1:09:07

of the conference room. And

1:09:09

then the three way standoff

1:09:11

turns into a dramatic shootout. Everyone's

1:09:14

riding on the floor. We

1:09:17

had a fan question from Caroline

1:09:19

P and Honolulu Hawaii for

1:09:21

the tag at the end. How much of

1:09:23

that scene was scripted and how much of

1:09:25

it was just Steve, Ed and Rain improvising

1:09:27

and having fun with it. Well,

1:09:30

I'll tell you what in

1:09:32

the script, it ends with Pam

1:09:34

backing out of the conference room.

1:09:37

It was supposed to just end

1:09:39

on a standoff. Yeah. And

1:09:41

then on the day they

1:09:44

started doing the shootout, all

1:09:46

shooting each other. And this

1:09:48

is how it ended up being. Greg

1:09:50

shared that when the guys fell on the

1:09:52

ground and were like convulsing and everything, that

1:09:54

was just them. They were just having fun.

1:09:56

He said it was like little kids getting

1:09:59

to play. Yeah. It looks like it.

1:10:01

It did. Well, at 20

1:10:03

minutes 44 seconds, I wanted to

1:10:05

point out one thing. The

1:10:07

reveal of Pam is so great.

1:10:10

And Greg shared what really made that happen with

1:10:12

our camera operator, Matt Sohn. His

1:10:14

ability to whip around in a

1:10:17

circle like that is

1:10:19

what really captured the moment. Matt

1:10:21

and Randall were so amazing, so whenever we can

1:10:23

give a shout out to them, way to go,

1:10:26

Matt Sohn. We got another

1:10:28

fan question from Patricia B. in Oklahoma

1:10:30

who said, Jenna, how much did you

1:10:32

enjoy that final scene when you were

1:10:34

in the conference room doing your finger

1:10:36

gun standoff? It was so

1:10:38

fun. And it's like a very popular

1:10:40

meme of me. Yeah. You

1:10:43

know, that says, I'm not going down for

1:10:45

this. Yeah, that line. It

1:10:47

was so funny. I remember

1:10:49

the direction from Greg was

1:10:51

like, you need to

1:10:53

act like you are 100% invested in

1:10:56

this. Like this is real in your mind. You

1:10:58

have to get out. You have to get out and you're

1:11:01

going to get out. So I

1:11:03

was like, all right, let's do it. And you got

1:11:05

to be in a mini action movie. I did. I

1:11:09

did. Well, there you have

1:11:11

it. That

1:11:13

is murder. I want to give a

1:11:15

big thank you to Danny Chun for all of his details.

1:11:17

He said you can find him at Danny

1:11:19

Chun on Twitter. He's got

1:11:22

a bunch of fun stuff coming up, but

1:11:24

he said it's going to be a while,

1:11:26

not till the summer, but we'll post all

1:11:28

about it when it's there. Well, of course,

1:11:30

we always want to give a big shout

1:11:32

out and lots of love to Randy Cordray

1:11:35

every week answering our questions. We love you,

1:11:37

Randy. All right, you guys. Well,

1:11:39

we're taking next week off for spring break, but

1:11:41

we'll be back the week after with shareholder meetings.

1:11:44

Oh, that's the recycle. Oh, yeah. And

1:11:47

I am already trading emails with our

1:11:50

costume designer, Alicia Raycraft to get all

1:11:52

the details on that recycle. I can't

1:11:54

wait. You

1:11:57

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