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be love. I'm

1:13

Jenna Fisher. And I'm Angela Kinsey. We were

1:15

on The Office together. And we're best friends.

1:17

And now we're doing the Ultimate Office rewatch

1:20

podcast just for you. Each week, we will

1:22

break down an episode of The Office and

1:24

give exclusive behind-the-scenes stories that only two people

1:26

who were there can tell you. We're The

1:29

Office Ladies. Hello. Hey

1:31

there. How's

1:34

it going today? Pretty

1:38

good. I'm pretty cozy. I

1:41

see. We've both shown up in our robes

1:43

today. I am in my pajamas. I

1:46

slept in this top. I just put a

1:48

bra on for you so I wasn't sloppy-sloppies.

1:52

I want everyone to know we did not plan

1:54

this, but moments before we were set to start

1:56

this recording, we're recording from home today. We did

1:58

not come into the studio. our robes. But

2:01

moments before I texted Angela and I

2:03

said, it's been a crazy

2:05

morning and I don't have

2:07

time to get dressed. I will be doing this

2:10

podcast in my pajamas in a robe. And

2:13

you wrote back, same lady, same. Yes.

2:16

I, when I record from home, I record in our

2:19

little closet, you know, but the closet doesn't have a

2:21

vent so it doesn't get any heat.

2:23

So it's really cool. So I always bundle

2:25

up and so we're cozy in our robes.

2:28

Well, I'm in my pajamas and robe today

2:31

because I am full-on Pam. Lee

2:33

is out of town. And we

2:36

have talked about what happens to me when

2:39

he is gone. And this

2:41

is what happens. He

2:43

is off skiing with the kids. I don't

2:45

even have the kids. And

2:48

I had such a show

2:50

of the morning with just the pets

2:52

that I did not

2:54

have time to get dressed. But

2:56

it made me think Angela, whenever we would come into

2:58

the studio or come on a zoom and we would

3:00

be like, I had the most insane morning. I don't

3:02

even know what kind of mood I'm in. Sam

3:05

would always say, oh, these are my

3:07

favorite podcast. When y'all come

3:09

in with this energy, he's like, this is

3:12

gonna be great. This

3:14

is no makeup in our robes energy.

3:16

So here we go. We are here

3:18

today to talk about Junior Salesmen. It

3:21

is season 9 episode 13 written

3:23

by Carrie Kemper and directed by

3:25

Dave Rogers. Give me

3:28

a summary pajama, Jenna. Here

3:30

it is. When

3:32

David Wallace tasks Dwight to

3:35

find a temporary replacement for

3:38

Jim, he interviews all of

3:40

his friends and family in

3:42

an effort to avoid hiring

3:44

Clark and instead create a

3:46

desk cluster alliance against Pam.

3:49

This is really an episode with

3:51

just an A story. Yeah. Well,

3:54

didn't start out that way. We'll get to it.

3:57

That is true. Alright,

3:59

today. Today, Fast Fact 1, 2, and 3

4:01

is one Fast Fact. And

4:05

it is called, We Are Halfway Through

4:07

Season 9. Oh my

4:10

gosh. Halfway through. Yeah.

4:13

I mean... Halfway through. Then

4:15

there's... That's the show. Yes.

4:18

If this season was a day of the

4:20

week, we have just hit Wednesday evening. Thank

4:22

you for putting it in that analogy for

4:24

me. You're welcome. We're

4:26

on hump day. In case everyone out there didn't

4:29

know what halfway meant. Well, listen,

4:31

we've been getting a lot of mail from people

4:34

on the subject of our rewatch coming to

4:36

an end, and I wanted to share some

4:38

of it today. I'm so

4:40

excited about this because you've

4:42

told me there's some great letters. There

4:45

sure were. First up, we got

4:47

this letter from Mackenzie C. in

4:49

Atlanta, Georgia, who said, I've been

4:51

listening to your podcast since the first episode,

4:54

and I've gone back and re-listened just like

4:56

I rewatched the show. It's

4:58

so funny to go back and listen

5:00

to earlier episodes where y'all were apologizing

5:02

about deep dives or going off on

5:04

random tangents. Now the deep

5:06

dives are everyone's favorite parts. Well,

5:09

side note, Mackenzie, we have gotten letters from

5:11

people who have said when we go on

5:13

our tangents, it makes

5:16

them want to throw their phone.

5:19

There was that guy, but I'm thinking of the guy

5:21

who wrote us and said he was going to drive

5:23

his car off the road. He couldn't take it anymore.

5:26

Yeah, he really does not like them. Yeah,

5:30

there's been a few. Yeah, but thank

5:32

you. I think for the most part, people

5:34

enjoy them. But Mackenzie went on

5:36

to say, and do you remember

5:38

when y'all didn't have this amazing feature on

5:40

your website? We all just had to email

5:42

in our questions. It's crazy

5:45

how far this podcast has come. Thanks,

5:47

Mackenzie. I mean, yeah, it's definitely been

5:49

a lot of learning curves, right, Jenna?

5:52

It's come a long way. And I feel

5:54

like it's always evolving. As soon as I

5:56

think we've found some formula, we mix it

5:59

up, which I... love. Yeah,

6:01

me too. And I feel like the audience

6:03

has been on this learning journey with us.

6:06

Yeah. Well, you know,

6:08

Mackenzie, speaking of re-listening

6:10

to the podcast, we have

6:12

Jenna gotten comments also on

6:15

our Instagram, like Mackenzie

6:18

at Michelle Goldrun's trails said,

6:20

we have been listening to them for so long,

6:23

I might just go back and re-listen to their

6:25

rewatch. And at

6:27

X fan, not sure if I'm saying

6:29

that correctly, said, how are we

6:31

already at season nine? I don't want

6:33

it to end. I've been re-listening to

6:36

their rewatch five times. That's

6:38

amazing. We love you guys. That

6:40

is so awesome and

6:43

humbling. And oh my gosh, thank

6:46

you. Well,

6:48

before we finish our rewatch,

6:50

people have some suggestions for

6:52

us, Angela. This is a

6:54

suggestion box section. I

6:57

cannot wait to hear these. Karen

6:59

W from Sharon, Massachusetts said, I would

7:01

love to hear you both interview Alison

7:03

Jones. I would too.

7:06

Yeah. Karen said, I just listened to the interview with

7:08

Zach Woods where he talks about her and I want

7:10

to learn more about her. Thanks for

7:13

your show. That's a good suggestion.

7:15

She is wonderful. And you know, I just ran into

7:17

her. Remember I was running errands and then I sat

7:19

down, had a cup of tea with her and it

7:21

was so lovely. All right. That's

7:23

gotta happen. Nicholas J

7:26

from Alton, Illinois said, have you

7:28

considered interviewing someone from standards and

7:30

practices? Oh

7:35

man, I would love to interview the

7:37

person who was always snarky to Randy

7:39

Cordray. We gotta do that. Well,

7:42

you know, I did that commercial

7:44

with those guys, that AT&T commercial

7:46

and in the commercial, Brian Baumgartner

7:49

has a little pug dog.

7:52

Guess who brought the pug? Bob

7:54

Dunn. Bob Dunn

7:57

animals. Yes. And

7:59

I was chatting. them up and

8:01

I told them we talk about them on the

8:03

podcast and I said would you ever

8:05

come on we want to interview you and

8:07

this is not Bob Dunn but this is like

8:10

the guy who works for Bob Dunn he was

8:12

like sure I remember coming to the office he

8:14

said man you know the hardest animal that we

8:16

had to work with for you guys was that

8:19

goose and I was like save it for

8:21

the podcast not

8:23

giant bandit the biggest cat I've ever

8:25

held I was shocked but I

8:27

was like I'm now I'm so intrigued

8:29

this guy's gotta have so many stories

8:33

lady there's so many people we

8:35

still want to talk to about the office

8:38

I still really want to talk to Timothy Oliphant and

8:40

I want to talk to Kathy Bates and

8:43

I want to talk to Jerry Miner and I

8:46

mean there's so many I agree

8:48

I need to hear from them all right

8:51

listen more than anything Angela

8:53

we got a lot of mail from

8:55

people asking us to just keep podcasting

8:58

in general oh for

9:00

example Olivia Kay from Cleveland said

9:02

dear office ladies my question is

9:05

more of a plea and

9:08

then in all caps Olivia wrote

9:10

please don't stop your podcast when

9:12

you run out of office episodes

9:14

Olivia went on to say I've loved

9:17

listening to you over the years your

9:19

sunny personalities and sweet relationship truly brighten

9:21

my day every time I listen you've

9:24

also had a huge influence on the way

9:26

I watch all my favorite shows I'm

9:29

constantly wondering new things as I watch and

9:31

I'm often thinking I wish Angela and Jenna

9:33

would do a podcast about this show too

9:36

so if you need an idea for

9:39

continuing your podcast here's my pitch the

9:42

rewatch ladies you

9:44

could rewatch popular movies and TV

9:46

shows together and do summaries deep

9:48

dives interviews all your usual great

9:50

stuff or you could even talk about paint

9:52

drying and I would still listen oh I

9:56

love that the rewatch ladies we got

9:58

it okay that's gotta on our list.

10:01

All right, we've got another pitch from

10:04

Emma Grace from Texas. Hey

10:06

ladies, will you please add the

10:08

edge to your breakdown list? I

10:12

watched it because of Jenna and it

10:14

is one of my all time favorite

10:16

movies. She's right. So inspirational. I

10:18

know it would be stressful, but I'll do it for

10:20

you guys. And

10:23

finally, Larry P from Harrisburg, Pennsylvania

10:26

said, please do at least one

10:28

whole episode of The Office Ladies

10:30

Burn It to the Ground. You're

10:34

both so kind and polite and

10:36

diplomatic, 99.999% of the time,

10:38

but surely there have been

10:42

occasions when you could have said more

10:44

but chose not to. After all these

10:46

years, aren't you entitled to have a

10:48

say? Let it out, ladies. Love you

10:52

both. That's

10:55

awesome. So

10:58

we have a lot of ideas here, Angie. We have

11:00

a lot of ideas. We really do. Well, here's the

11:02

thing I know, Jenna. I

11:04

don't want to stop podcasting. I just, I

11:06

love it. I love doing this with you

11:08

and I love our Office

11:11

Ladies family. I love that

11:13

I get to spend each week with you all.

11:15

It's just such a wonderful community and I loved

11:18

getting to know everyone and I don't want it to

11:20

stop. I agree.

11:22

This is my happy place, Angie.

11:25

It is. It really is. Look at me. I'm in

11:27

my robe and I

11:29

just love reading all those letters. I love podcasting

11:31

with you. And Angie, I'm going

11:33

to say something. I'm going to put it out there. Okay.

11:36

You know how I feel about putting stuff

11:38

out there. Put it out there. What are

11:40

you going to put out there? I'll come

11:42

in agreement with you. Would

11:44

it be totally insane for

11:47

us to go back and rewatch

11:49

it again and just keep

11:52

talking about it? Because listen, I

11:54

am genuinely curious to

11:56

go back and watch season one again. I

11:59

want to. see it now that I

12:01

have the scope of the whole series

12:04

in my head. I mean, this is what people

12:06

do. They go back and rewatch. Why can't we

12:08

just go back and rewatch and keep talking about

12:10

it? I mean, you're not crazy.

12:12

There are people that have written in and said

12:14

this. I have a comment right here. Oh, it's

12:17

from at Brisa Rodriguez. They

12:19

said, I really need you guys to

12:21

start from the beginning again. I'm not

12:23

ready to move on. I mean, I

12:26

know. And you know

12:29

what? I think about all

12:31

the stuff we didn't have in the beginning.

12:34

Like I didn't have the DVDs. I didn't

12:36

have the deleted scenes. We didn't have all

12:38

the cold sheets. We didn't have some

12:40

of the candy bag alts and the

12:42

shooting drafts. Like we have gathered information

12:44

as we've gone. And I

12:46

know some of those early episodes, we would

12:48

have more to share. Well, lady,

12:51

just the other day we were out to

12:53

lunch with Dave Rogers. And he

12:55

reminded us of a behind the scenes

12:57

tidbit from Garden Party that we had

13:00

completely forgotten about. And I'm

13:02

not even going to say it right now. Just

13:04

in case we really do rewatch it again, I'm

13:06

going to save it. We already have a Garden

13:08

Party tidbit is what I'm saying. That's true. We

13:10

were so excited at lunch. And

13:13

then I feel like there's just so many more

13:15

things that are in the world of the office.

13:17

There's the webisodes, for example. Yes,

13:19

people have asked us to break those down.

13:21

I would like to do that. You want

13:23

an Emmy for that. I did

13:26

for the accountants. Yeah. And then you and

13:28

I both loved the original version. Yes.

13:30

Why are we not breaking down the

13:33

British office? Of course.

13:36

And you know what else? Oh, how about this?

13:39

Because I don't know if this one was

13:41

blown up, but mine was blown up because

13:43

there's some new tidbits about the possible spinoff slash

13:45

reboot. I mean, they haven't started shooting or

13:47

anything, but there's a big update. Yeah,

13:50

you should tell people. All right. So

13:52

writer Michael Komen has joined Greg

13:54

Daniels to co create the new

13:56

office spinoff. Some of you might

13:58

know Michael because he co-created the

14:00

series Nathan for You alongside Nathan Fielder.

14:02

That show is so funny. It's so

14:05

funny. Did you watch it? It's so

14:07

funny. Nathan is so funny. It

14:10

just sounded like my mom. We both

14:12

did. That was a funny

14:14

show, people. Oh, I laughed. Oh my

14:16

goodness. We turned into the two old

14:18

aunties on that one. Michael

14:20

has also worked on the Colbert Report,

14:23

Mad TV, Late Night with Conan O'Brien,

14:25

and a little tidbit. Both

14:27

Michael and Greg got their starts as

14:30

writers on Saturday Night Live. But Jenna,

14:32

we know Michael. We know

14:34

know Michael. Yeah, we know him

14:36

very well because he is Ellie

14:38

Kemper's husband. I'll tell

14:40

you a sweet thing about Michael. When

14:43

I was in New York and I

14:45

was shooting Mean Girls with my broken

14:47

shoulder, when it was time for me

14:49

to leave town, I

14:51

couldn't get my bag down to

14:53

the car. And Michael, who

14:56

was nearby, hopped over

14:59

and grabbed my bag for me and took it

15:01

down to my car for me. Such

15:03

a sweetie. Do you see what I'm

15:05

saying? So nice guy, and also very

15:07

funny. And also someone we

15:10

could say, hey, we're gonna break down

15:12

the reboot. We should do it. We

15:14

have to break down whatever the reboot

15:16

spin-off ends up being. We definitely need

15:19

to podcast about that. We will go

15:21

on set and we will

15:23

talk and take notes. Sorry,

15:25

guys. We're coming. Get ready.

15:28

And then here's the other thing. I love

15:31

doing our Dear Office Ladies episode. I loved

15:33

when our call to action was right in

15:35

about your workplace dilemmas. That was so

15:38

fun. I would love to do more

15:40

Dear Office Ladies. We could do

15:42

a lot of themes. We could do BFF advice

15:45

or wedding advice. I mean, I

15:48

feel like we could have guests come on

15:50

and help give us advice. I

15:52

don't know. This is a lot of options. What

15:55

we know is that we are not going

15:57

to stop podcasting. We know that. So

16:01

how do we pick? I

16:03

don't know how we pick. I don't know. But

16:05

can we do all of them? I don't know.

16:08

Maybe we can. Maybe we are. I

16:11

don't know. Guys, maybe we'll put a poll in

16:13

stories. What do we do? We do the,

16:15

we rewatch the office again. Are

16:17

we rewatch something else? Or we

16:20

do Dear Office Ladies? Are

16:22

we do a hybrid? I mean,

16:24

for me, my top

16:26

contenders are rewatch

16:28

the office again. I can't believe I'm saying

16:30

that. I know. When we started, I didn't even

16:33

know if we'd finished and now I want

16:35

to do it again. I would

16:38

want to watch other office centered

16:40

content and

16:42

Dear Office Ladies. But

16:45

also maybe a bonus episode where we watch

16:47

The Edge. Yeah, I don't

16:49

know. That's not a poll anymore. That's doing it all. Well,

16:53

wait, Cody is

16:55

saying something. Cody, what are you saying? Cody, hop

16:58

on the mic. Cody, as our

17:00

executive producer, what are your thoughts? Well, I

17:02

love Dear Office Ladies, number one. But second,

17:04

it was like when we were starting the

17:06

podcast, we were trying to find the vibe

17:08

of the show, what listeners liked. And I

17:10

was like, well, we could probably redo the

17:12

first 1015 episodes to make them

17:14

in the style of this episode. And not like

17:16

the first ones were bad, but it's like, but

17:18

the styles changed. I don't know. You guys come

17:21

at it in such a fun, unique

17:23

way that like we found as we went along,

17:25

you know, I don't know, just a thought, pick

17:27

it or leave it. All right.

17:30

We like it. I take it. We take

17:32

it. We redo the beginning. All

17:35

right, to sum up, we love you all. And

17:37

we want to hear from you. We do. We

17:40

are halfway through season nine. And we want

17:42

to hear what you want us to do

17:44

next. We're here for you. We should probably

17:46

start making a plan. So we'd

17:48

love to hear your thoughts. For

17:50

now, why don't we take a break? And

17:53

then when we come back, we will start

17:55

talking about junior salesmen. Let's do

17:57

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18:13

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18:16

Listen, I always want a kitchen with kids.

18:18

Yep. I don't want to call

18:20

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18:22

have my groceries. I need a kitchen. Yes. Well,

18:24

this is why doing the Airbnb thing was so

18:27

perfect. Yep. And the family

18:29

we were staying with told us that

18:31

they listed their house on Airbnb back

18:33

in California. Oh, that's so smart. I know

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18:37

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This episode starts with

21:01

such a juicy moment.

21:04

The camera is rolling but it's sitting

21:06

on the floor and from

21:08

the waist down we see like two

21:11

sets of legs and feet right and

21:13

it's Pam and the boom operator Brian

21:15

and Pam is kind of

21:17

apologizing to him for getting him into trouble

21:19

and he's saying you know

21:21

how are you and Jim doing and

21:24

then Erin says Pam you know you have a phone call

21:27

and she kind of leaves Meredith

21:29

of course has to hit on Brian the boom

21:31

guy which apparently she's been doing for a while

21:33

because he's like Meredith you know what they're telling

21:35

us we can't really talk to you guys anymore.

21:37

It's true.

21:41

I have one quick background catch

21:44

at 33 seconds I'm calling this

21:46

a sensible shoe catch. What

21:48

is it? Did you see Pam's heels? I

21:51

mean is it 1960? I feel like

21:54

my grandmother who loved a sensible

21:57

shoe. Lena McKenzie loved a sensible

21:59

shoe. I feel like she

22:01

would be like, that's a very sensible high

22:03

heel, Pam Beasley. That

22:06

is a working woman's shoe. It's

22:09

a sensible shoe catch. We got

22:11

some fan mail about this cold open, Angela.

22:14

Oh, I bet we did. This

22:16

first one is from Shaley D.

22:18

in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Hi, Shaley. You

22:20

write in every episode. Every episode

22:23

you've got this question. Multiple

22:25

questions. And they're always so good.

22:27

Yeah. Shaley said,

22:29

does Pam make sure to

22:32

ask about Alyssa when she's talking

22:34

to Brian just to let the

22:36

viewers know that nothing happened between

22:38

her and Brian? Was

22:40

Brian's original storyline going to be that

22:42

he would have been trouble for Jim

22:44

and Pam's relationship? Oh,

22:47

Shaley. Yes. Yes. Tell

22:51

us, Jenna. Spill the tea. Well,

22:54

that's what they say, right? You spill the tea.

22:57

Do you serve the tea? No,

22:59

you spill it. You spill the tea. Is

23:02

it because when I was drinking my tea, you

23:04

told me such a good gossip moment that I

23:06

spilled it? Is that what spilling the tea

23:08

is? I don't know,

23:10

but it doesn't matter though. It doesn't matter.

23:12

I did just learn what the ick is.

23:15

What's the ick? The ick. Okay.

23:18

My teenagers told me, it's like if you like someone

23:20

and you're like, oh my gosh, they're great, they're great.

23:23

And then all of a sudden they do something and you're like

23:26

ick. That's the ick. If you like them, but

23:28

then maybe you go on a date and they

23:30

chew with their mouth open, that's the ick. Yeah.

23:33

Then all of a sudden it's like the

23:35

ick. Anyway. Anyway. Anyway,

23:38

I don't think Pam has the ick about

23:40

Brian. I think Pam cares

23:42

for him as a friend. Yes, that

23:44

is true. And originally in the script,

23:46

in fact, in this scene, as scripted,

23:51

Pam tells Brian she talked

23:53

to Alyssa about what's

23:55

going on with her and Jim and

23:57

that Alyssa sort of took Jim's life.

24:00

side and they have a

24:02

whole banter about how that's

24:04

typical of Alyssa and they kind

24:06

of laugh about it and what

24:09

we were trying to do with that storytelling

24:11

was express that Alyssa and Brian

24:13

are like couple friends with Jim and

24:16

Pam. Yeah. And that Brian

24:18

comforting Pam was like as if

24:20

your friend's husband was comforting you

24:23

in a difficult moment.

24:26

But we ended up cutting it out and

24:28

making it simpler and just having Pam reference

24:30

Alyssa. I think that's good. I

24:32

think that was a good cut. Yeah.

24:36

We also got mail from Clara

24:38

D in Germany who said probably

24:40

not a very niche opinion but

24:43

the Brian storyline dot dot dot

24:45

it feels physically painful to watch.

24:48

Do you remember the fan reactions when these

24:50

episodes first came out? Oh wow

24:53

Clara. From

24:55

the moment Brian appeared fans

24:58

went completely berserk. I

25:01

mean they lost their minds.

25:04

Their reaction was so much stronger

25:06

than we ever expected and we

25:09

actually started scrambling and pulling back on

25:11

some of the plans we had because

25:13

just this spy shot of the two

25:15

of them talking where Pam even references

25:18

Alyssa. People got so

25:20

upset. You know our

25:22

long time editor Dave Rogers who Jenna and

25:24

I just had lunch with he directed this

25:26

episode right? And we were catching up

25:28

with him and we told him we were about to

25:30

break down this episode. He's gonna share

25:33

a bunch of audio clips but the

25:35

first thing we asked him was about this Pam

25:37

Brian storyline and here's what he had to say.

25:39

I have a pretty

25:41

strong opinion on the Pam Brian arc.

25:43

I don't have any issues with

25:46

Brian being a potential threat

25:49

to Jim and Pam's relationship. He's

25:51

supposed to be. He's supposed to you know

25:53

that's what he was there for was

25:55

to you know be someone like oh is this

25:58

is this gonna put a deeper wedge in

26:00

between Jim and Pam who were already fighting.

26:04

But that never bothered me. I

26:06

had no issues with that. And I

26:08

had no issues. I loved how Brian shows up

26:11

for the first time. I loved the reveal of

26:13

Brian. To me it's mind blowing. It's like, oh

26:15

my God. And we left the episode at the

26:17

end of that and then it's, you know, what's

26:20

going to happen next. And that's

26:22

what I have issues with, that we

26:25

kind of retconned him in, that suddenly

26:27

we have this character that we've never

26:29

seen before that Jim and Pam have

26:31

had this relationship with. And

26:34

that bothered me. Like that they knew him and

26:36

that they were friendly with him and his wife.

26:39

I just had a lot of trouble with that. It

26:41

didn't feel real to me. Like we know so much

26:43

about them. We were with them

26:45

every day, you know, we're watching the show

26:47

and all these components of

26:49

their life. And then suddenly there's this,

26:52

you know, this character that supposedly has

26:54

been there the whole time. And I

26:56

guess it's plausible, but I struggled with

26:58

that. Dave, I

27:00

hear you. I hear what you're saying. And

27:03

we did discuss this when we were kind

27:06

of playing out this storyline. And

27:09

I guess the excuse we came up

27:11

with is that we

27:13

haven't really followed any of Jim

27:15

and Pam's real life friends unless

27:18

they showed up at

27:20

an occasion like, for example,

27:22

the christening or

27:26

maybe how like Jim's friend came in to

27:28

play a prank on Dwight. Like we don't

27:30

know a lot about their personal

27:32

lives or their personal friends. So

27:35

that's how we thought we could get away with it. I

27:38

would even say there's times where we've gotten

27:40

a little nugget even in deleted scenes that

27:42

like Jim might make his

27:44

usual salmon and we're like, Oh, Jim

27:46

makes salmon. We really don't know about

27:48

their lives at home. Like, yeah.

27:52

So that wasn't as big a jump for

27:54

me. It was just

27:56

weird though to see such a

27:58

cutie patootie. Who

28:00

had been I guess there with Pam all along

28:04

He's very fit. He's

28:06

like super fit Yes, the

28:08

cutie patootie that you are referring

28:10

to is Chris Diamantopoulos who played

28:13

Brian the boom operator And it

28:16

occurred to me that I hadn't done a good Introduction

28:19

of him because we're hoping to have

28:21

him on the pod Yes, but

28:24

I will say I did read

28:26

with him I did auditions with all

28:28

of the final contenders for Brian the

28:30

boom guy and this was one

28:32

of those times When just

28:35

like when I read with Rashida for

28:37

Karen It was like

28:39

oh, it's you of course. It's you

28:41

like he ran away with it and

28:44

he was so wonderful and You

28:46

know, here's a little tidbit of trivia

28:48

about him. He does a ton of

28:50

voiceover work Like yeah,

28:53

and he is the voice of Mickey Mouse

28:56

No way. Yes, if

28:59

you go to Disneyland and you ride

29:01

the ride Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway

29:04

That's him as Mickey Mouse But

29:06

he's like the current voice of

29:08

Mickey Mouse and all kinds of

29:10

animated stuff That is

29:13

making my brain go what? Because

29:16

I just picture him I don't

29:18

see that voice that's crazy Yeah,

29:21

and I would make him talk to

29:23

me as Mickey Mouse on set because

29:26

it was I mean, it's

29:28

crazy if you close your eyes It's

29:30

Mickey Mouse. That's wild I

29:33

don't know if he comes on the pod if he'll be

29:35

allowed to do it or not Oh,

29:37

he might not be allowed to but we

29:39

can like play a little bit of Mickey

29:42

Mouse like oh But we can find an

29:44

audio clip of him doing it. Okay. Yeah.

29:46

Yeah Just know

29:49

That's Mickey Mouse crying the boom

29:51

guy. Does that make it easier to like

29:54

him knowing that? Maybe when

29:56

you watch the show feel like I can't

29:58

hate Mickey Mouse. Oh, man But

30:00

they definitely can hate Brian the Boom guy.

30:03

I felt bad for him. It was like

30:05

him and Lindsay, man, they got so much

30:07

heat for playing these characters. I

30:10

think that Chris, Lindsay, Rich Summer, and Rashida

30:12

Jones should all go out to dinner sometime

30:15

and talk about what it's like to play

30:17

a character trying to come between Jim and

30:19

Pam. I'd

30:21

love to record that dinner. Yeah. Well,

30:24

this episode is going to start with

30:27

Clark approaching Dwight in the break room.

30:30

He heard that Dwight is going to be

30:32

interviewing people for a new sales position and

30:34

Clark would like to get the job. Yeah.

30:37

Basically, Dwight has to find someone to

30:39

temporarily take Jim's place while Jim is

30:41

in Philly. And

30:44

Dwight is really excited. He's

30:46

looking forward to having someone at his desk clump

30:48

that really gets him, you know? Yeah,

30:51

he says, you know, like someone who knows

30:53

the difference between a slaughterhouse and a rendering

30:55

plant. Duh, Jim. I

30:58

looked it up. Did you really?

31:01

I mean, I knew what a slaughterhouse

31:03

was because it's in the name. You

31:06

know, that's where

31:09

you slaughter animals. But

31:12

I was like, what's a rendering plant? Do

31:15

you want to know? Is that where

31:17

they repurpose parts of the animals? Yes.

31:21

Yes, that's exactly right. Didn't

31:24

know that. Neither did Jim. That's

31:27

right. I

31:29

have a call sheet tidbit for you. What

31:31

is it? Our first day of filming

31:33

this episode was Monday, December 12th, 2012. The

31:37

high was of 68 degrees and the low

31:39

was 47. That would

31:41

be our average weather for this whole entire week.

31:45

And I want you to know when Steve Burgess

31:47

sent me the call sheets, he included a photo

31:49

from his yard. So I sent him back

31:51

one of my yard. And we now do

31:53

this every week. We sent each other a snapshot

31:55

from our yard. I asked him if I could

31:57

share them and he said yes. Oh,

32:00

well, lady, we've started doing this as

32:02

well. When I sent him

32:04

my fan questions and production questions, he

32:07

now sends me back a photo as

32:09

well. So I love it. Is this

32:11

fun? He's the cutest

32:13

human. Clark is really

32:15

going to pitch himself for this job.

32:17

He reminds Dwight of some of the

32:19

sacrifices that he has gone through for Dunder

32:22

Mifflin in his short time here. But

32:24

Dwight has a talking head where he says

32:27

Clark has no chance. Dwight

32:29

is going to interview Rolfe, who

32:32

fishes with hand grenades and Trevor, who

32:34

will laugh so hard you'll puke your

32:36

pants. Here's something

32:38

that Dave shared with us on our

32:40

lunch, Jenna, which is that in

32:43

the initial draft, Rolfe wasn't included.

32:45

Remember? Yes. And

32:47

that Dave was like, what? You can't

32:49

not have Rolfe. And Dave pitched so

32:51

hard to have the character of Rolfe

32:54

be in this episode. And

32:56

I have to say some of my favorite moments are

32:58

of Rolfe. Well, on that

33:00

note, I have a little tidbit that Dave

33:02

shared with us for a scene that comes

33:04

later. I'll save it. Save

33:06

it? It's about Rolfe. It

33:08

is. I need everyone to

33:10

go to two minutes and 20 seconds. What

33:13

for? Dwight has

33:15

super flat, like,

33:18

flatty flat bangs, like super

33:20

flatty bangs. Did he

33:22

have a hat on? No. Sure something. I

33:25

think maybe someone got a new flat iron

33:27

in the hair and makeup

33:29

trailer. Please note, flatty

33:31

bangs at two minutes, 20 seconds.

33:33

They're real flat. Well,

33:36

next up, Dwight and his flatty bangs

33:38

are going to antagonize Jim and Pam.

33:41

He's going to tell them there's going to be

33:43

a new alliance and it's going to be Dwight

33:45

and a friend against Pam. Pam

33:48

is sort of worried. Jim has

33:50

a talking head. I don't know. It

33:52

kind of annoyed me. I felt like he was a

33:54

little bit flippant. He

33:57

says things between me and Pam are

33:59

delicate. So adding more Dwight to her life

34:01

could only make things worse. What

34:04

bothered you about that? It just

34:06

seems like a little blasé about the state

34:08

of affairs, if you will. Like

34:11

a little bit of like to the camera

34:13

like, oh, things are kind of crappy with

34:15

the missus. Whoop-o.

34:18

Bippa-doo. Whoopsies. Oh, boy. You

34:24

do not usually get so hot to trot about,

34:26

Jim, but here you are. It's

34:28

because I'm in my cozy pajamas in my

34:30

robe. It's starting. Sam,

34:33

if you're listening, it's starting. Yeah,

34:35

Sam. So

34:38

Clark and Rolf are now in

34:40

the conference room and they're waiting

34:42

to interview. This is now the

34:44

waiting room. Although Rolf

34:46

says to Clark, you're

34:49

interviewing, I'm getting the job, which

34:52

was very funny. Yeah. Dwight

34:54

now has a talking head where he says Rolf is his

34:57

best friend and he's the man. Cool,

34:59

calm, collected, sweet guy, can't

35:01

be rattled. And

35:04

then this cuts to a scene where

35:06

Rolf is just yelling, like yelling at

35:09

the sweetest little bunny. He's like, he's

35:11

bending over in the grass yelling at

35:14

a bunny. We got a

35:16

fan question from Stacy S. in Santa

35:18

Cruz, California, who said that Benny that

35:20

Rolf is yelling at at three minutes

35:22

and 36 seconds is perfect. Please

35:25

tell me about the bunny actor and how the Wranglers

35:27

got the bunny to turn away from Rolf as he

35:29

is yelling at it. Well,

35:31

Stacy, Steve Burgess

35:33

told me that the bunny was from Bob

35:36

Dunn. And if

35:38

we get to interview Bob Dunn, we will ask them,

35:40

how do you train a bunny to disregard someone who

35:42

is yelling at them? I

35:45

don't have that answer now, but Steve said

35:47

that Bob Dunn not only brought the bunny,

35:49

but they also brought the rabbit poop. What?

35:53

Yeah, that was surrounding the bunny. Steve

35:56

Burgess says the bunny was $150. The

36:00

train will see was $600. Transportation

36:03

for the bunny was $250 and the poop was

36:05

free. The

36:08

transportation costs more than the bunny.

36:12

Yes, it was more expensive to

36:14

transport the bunny than

36:16

the bunny charges to appear.

36:18

Yeah. Yeah. It's a good

36:20

thing the bunny can't read. He

36:24

didn't get a good deal. He

36:26

didn't. Everyone else made more money. Jim

36:29

is now on the phone. He's assuring his

36:31

athlete teammate that he will talk to David

36:33

Wallace today but says, don't get your hopes

36:36

up. And we learned

36:38

that athlete lost a really big investor

36:40

last week and his co-workers want Jim

36:42

to ask David Wallace for

36:45

some money. That's going to be

36:47

awkward. Yeah. So he

36:49

says they lost a big investor last week.

36:52

Remember, they also lost a big investor

36:54

when Jim couldn't drive home for the

36:57

recital. So have they lost two big

36:59

investors now? I'm worried

37:01

for athlete. I know. Well,

37:04

Rolf and Dwight now loudly, very

37:07

loudly approach the desk clump where

37:09

Dwight and Jim and Pam sit.

37:12

Dwight's saying, that chair is going to be

37:14

yours and this desk. And Jim's trying to

37:16

talk on the phone. And

37:18

Jim's like, I'm on the phone. And Dwight

37:20

goes, no, doi. Who says that

37:23

anymore? Who says no, doi? Is

37:25

that out? I think that's out. You know

37:27

what that is? That's an ick. That's an

37:29

ick. Well,

37:32

Rolf says to Pam, you better like

37:34

Norwegian black metal because I don't wear

37:36

earbuds. So that's

37:38

what's in store for Pam. If

37:41

Rolf gets the job and

37:43

you know, Pam tries to brush it off.

37:45

She says, you know what? It's just a

37:47

seating arrangement. It doesn't matter. And that

37:50

kind of hits Jim. He's like, ooh. Well,

37:53

next up in Andy's office, Dwight is

37:56

going to look over Rolf's resume. This

37:58

was my favorite interview. of all the ones

38:00

that Dwight did, and I think we need to hear it.

38:04

So, I've got your resume here, but it's

38:06

not telling me everything. A lot of information

38:08

is private. How do I know you're qualified

38:10

to evaluate me? I'm the one offering

38:13

the job. What are your credentials? I've worked here for 12

38:15

years. I won Salesman of the Year. I'm an assistant to

38:17

the regional manager. I think I've heard everything I need to

38:19

hear. Wait, wait, no. I mean, if you need to know

38:21

more, you can call David Wallace. I'm sure he'll give a

38:23

reference. Thank you, Dwight. I'll be in touch. Well,

38:27

they can all be winners. I

38:31

love it so much. I really

38:33

want to have an interview where

38:35

I hand over a resume, and

38:37

I've redacted it. There's like redacted

38:40

those bars, black bars. Yeah. How do

38:42

I know you're qualified to know these

38:44

things about me? I

38:47

just loved it. James Urbaniac is so great

38:50

as Ross. That's another person I would like

38:52

to talk to on the podcast. Yes. See,

38:55

next time we rewatch this episode,

38:57

we'll have James Urbaniac on. That's

38:59

right. The redo of the rewatch

39:01

is writing itself. Well,

39:03

next up is Trevor. Yeah. And apparently,

39:05

Trevor is a real professional who loves

39:08

to jump on people. Like he actually

39:10

jumps on people. Yeah.

39:13

In his interview, Trevor seems

39:15

blindsided by the fact that he's

39:17

going to be asked questions. He

39:21

has clearly never interviewed for anything

39:23

before, I guess. And

39:26

we got a fan question from

39:28

Carly O. in Chicago, Illinois, who

39:30

said, wouldn't Oscar recognize Trevor and

39:33

be mad that he's interviewing at Dunder

39:36

Mifflin after trying to break his kneecaps?

39:38

Yeah. Carly, if you

39:41

look in the background over Trevor's

39:43

shoulder, kind of through

39:45

the blinds, you can see

39:47

Aaron and Oscar at reception looking

39:49

in on the interview. So I

39:52

think that this was meant to

39:54

express Oscar's concern. Yeah, I think

39:56

you're right. Clark and Jim are now going

39:58

to have a moment. He calls Jim

40:00

for permission to review the price sheets before

40:02

his interview. And Jim wants

40:05

to see if Clark's going to be a good

40:07

desk mate for Pam. And

40:09

he's liking him. And of course

40:11

Dwight sees this and he does not like

40:13

that. He says, you know what? I

40:16

can't hire Clark. He may look like a shrewd, but

40:18

he thinks like a Halpert and he acts like a

40:20

Beasley. That's right. Clark

40:22

is now in Dwight's office and he

40:24

is doing a good job at

40:27

this interview that Dwight is really trying

40:29

to make him fail. That's

40:31

right. He's asking him a whole bunch of

40:33

questions. And then Clark

40:35

says, that's just a classic

40:37

no one situation. So I'd Kobayashi Maru

40:40

it. And Dwight says, damn

40:42

it. Perfect answer. Again.

40:45

Were you wondering what that meant? I was.

40:49

Well, then you'll be happy that we got

40:51

a letter from Anne Marie Kay in London

40:53

because Anne Marie Kay, thank you very much, is

40:55

going to explain it to us. Is

40:58

it Kobayashi from the usual suspects?

41:01

No, it is a Star Trek reference.

41:05

Oh, Anne

41:08

Marie said this is a very quick

41:10

exchange between Dwight and Clark. But since

41:12

my husband is a huge Star Trek

41:14

fan and I am an office fan,

41:16

I got him to explain this

41:18

reference and I did a deep dive for

41:20

you. Thank you. The Kobayashi

41:22

Maru is the name of

41:24

a stranded ship from a

41:27

Star Trek training simulation. In

41:29

this training simulation, the ship has

41:32

lost power and it is drifted

41:34

into enemy Klingon space. Crossing

41:38

into enemy space will be seen as an act of

41:40

war, but it's not a real ship.

41:43

This is a simulation. It's a

41:45

simulation. However, in the

41:47

simulation, if you don't cross into

41:49

this enemy territory, a hundred people

41:52

will die. In real life or

41:54

in the simulation? In the simulation.

41:56

So the simulation is asking you,

41:58

what do you do? do? What

42:00

do you do when there's no good right

42:02

answer? Oh, you

42:05

Kobayashi Maruit. Yes,

42:07

Captain Kirk famously hacked

42:09

the simulation, lowering the

42:11

Klingons attack shields so

42:13

that he could win so that he

42:15

could pass into the territory without 100

42:17

people dying and also without

42:19

starting a war. And so

42:22

this is the sort of cheat

42:24

that Clark is calling out in his

42:27

interview. But no one was ever in

42:29

harm's way because it was just a practice. Lady,

42:32

I will tell you again, because you

42:35

have been worried. I'm

42:37

it is a simulation the whole

42:39

time. You will not accept

42:41

that it was a simulation. Okay, okay.

42:44

No one was ever gonna be

42:46

harmed, lady. All right. Also, if

42:49

it wasn't a simulation, it's still

42:51

a TV show. Well,

42:53

yeah, so in either

42:57

scenario, simulation or not,

42:59

it's just a television

43:01

show storyline.

43:04

And everyone was always safe.

43:06

Everyone's okay, including people from

43:08

this made up universe that

43:11

doesn't exist. Okay, thank you.

43:13

Good. Don't worry. I needed to

43:15

get that out of the way. You're so

43:17

sweet. And you're worried about them. Well,

43:22

Jenna, on that note, I think we should

43:24

take a break. And

43:26

when we come back, I have

43:28

a mallard update. No, you do not.

43:31

I do. We get to find out

43:33

about the band mallard. Today. I did

43:35

not know this was coming. Sort of.

43:37

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45:49

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45:51

in my life. No pressure. Well,

45:55

this is definitely going to be a let

45:57

down. put

46:00

that out there. Or maybe you

46:02

tell me. So a few weeks ago we

46:04

got a question about the mallard duck in

46:06

the suit warehouse episode. We did a side-by-side

46:08

is it the same duck that Dwight used

46:11

to spy on Jim? And then we got

46:13

a request to do a little deep dive

46:15

on mallard ducks which I did and I

46:18

shared a stat that I found

46:21

on allaboutbirds.org that said the oldest

46:23

known mallard was a male at

46:25

least 27 years and seven months

46:27

old and he was shot in Arkansas in 2008 and

46:29

then the

46:31

stat went on to say that he had been

46:33

banned from the state of Louisiana since 1981.

46:36

This made Jenna and I both go, what?

46:38

Why is he banned? But I didn't look

46:40

it up so I promised to follow

46:43

up. Well, yeah.

46:47

I have been keeping myself from

46:49

googling it all this time and

46:51

do not Google it. I didn't.

46:54

Okay. Because I

46:56

got to the bottom of why this

46:58

bird was banned and it's pretty embarrassing.

47:01

What? Not

47:04

for the mallard. Oh. But

47:07

for me. What is it?

47:10

Well, you know when I

47:13

finish my document each week for the

47:15

podcast I go through and

47:17

I do a misspelling and typo path. No.

47:19

No. And

47:23

well, Microsoft Word suggested

47:25

the correct spelling and

47:27

I hit fine. Here's

47:29

how it actually read on the

47:31

website. No. The mallard had been

47:34

banned from the state

47:36

of Louisiana since 1981.

47:38

Banned not

47:40

banned. I

47:45

want to apologize to the mallard

47:48

bird community for that typo. And

47:51

I then had to find out what it

47:53

meant for a bird to be banned. And

47:56

here's what I found out. Waterfall

48:00

are banded only by federal and state

48:02

agencies. They basically get this

48:04

little band around their leg with a scanner

48:06

code thingy so you can track them. One

48:09

of the primary motivations for banding ducks

48:12

is to identify the wintering areas and

48:14

migration routes. They can also

48:16

learn about the mallard's annual survival,

48:19

their population, hunting behavior, harvest,

48:21

and so much more.

48:23

And probably

48:25

because I felt so bad, I then went

48:27

on YouTube and watched a lot of videos

48:29

about duck banding and how it's done and

48:31

what you learn from it. And

48:34

the one I found very informative was from

48:36

the New York State Department of Environmental Conservation

48:39

and I will put a link in our stories to

48:41

those videos as well. You

48:44

are speechless. This update

48:47

exceeded my expectations.

48:50

So basically what

48:53

we learned was that this bird had

48:55

migrated from Louisiana

48:59

to Arkansas, not been

49:02

thrown out. He had not been kicked

49:04

out of the state of Louisiana. He

49:06

just flew to Arkansas. His

49:08

mistake though, he was

49:10

doing okay in Louisiana. He'd lived

49:12

a ripe old age. Yeah. Thank

49:16

you so much. Because

49:18

you know what? If I had googled band

49:22

mallard from

49:25

Louisiana, I

49:27

wouldn't have gotten the answer because

49:29

it never happened. I want

49:31

you to know I typed in

49:33

the band mallard ducks from Louisiana in

49:36

1981 and I searched and

49:39

I searched and I couldn't find anything. And it

49:42

kept referring me back to this all about birds,

49:45

you know, article. And

49:47

then finally I looked and it said,

49:49

oh my god, it says banded. Anyway,

49:54

there you go. One letter can make a difference,

49:56

guys. It's a one story. This

49:59

is a good reason to

50:01

continue to do mailbag episodes. Because

50:05

we got a question for me to look

50:07

up mallards. Yeah and look where it led.

50:10

Oh I want you to know I

50:12

feel very well versed on banding birds

50:15

now. Sort of

50:17

like because of my shame I

50:19

really went deep into bird banding

50:21

and watching videos about migration. Thank

50:23

you so much for that update

50:26

Angela. You're welcome. Should we

50:28

get back to this episode? We

50:30

should because in the conference room a

50:33

real cast of characters is gathered waiting

50:35

to interview. They're all of Dwight's friends

50:38

plus Mo's. We

50:40

got a fan question from Vicki S. in

50:42

Little Elm, Texas who said I would love

50:44

to hear the story behind bringing back all

50:47

the amazing characters in this episode for job

50:49

interviews. This felt like such

50:51

an Avengers ensemble moment in the best

50:53

way. Please give us all the details.

50:56

Vicki I was so excited about this too and

50:58

here's how it was described in the shooting draft.

51:01

Interior bullpen. The office is staring

51:04

with concern at the conference room

51:06

where Dwight's army of freaks is

51:08

assembled. Nate, Mo's,

51:10

Gabor, Zeke, Trevor, Wolf, Malvina

51:13

and Sensei Ira. Some

51:15

are looking over notes preparing nervously to

51:17

be interviewed. Others are stretching pointlessly or

51:20

taking photos of everyone in the office

51:22

with a cell phone. Someone

51:24

eats a lunch marked Stanley.

51:27

Mo's combs his hair alfalfa

51:29

style. Troy under bridge is

51:31

at the water cooler filling a ziplock

51:33

sandwich bag with water. He sees

51:35

Dwight. Wow. Dave

51:38

Rogers also talked about this scene and what

51:40

it was like to have everyone back. Here's

51:42

what he said. God it

51:44

was a that was a pretty fun

51:46

episode getting all these people together all

51:48

these people from Dwight's past. It's

51:51

kind of like if this is your life for Dwight. It

51:53

was pretty fun. This was something Greg

51:55

Daniels really wanted to have all these

51:57

weirdos together in one room and see

51:59

them. interact with each other and with

52:01

Dwight. I really liked

52:04

having Rolf return and you know,

52:06

Mo's and Nate and even

52:08

Trevor who was you know just on

52:10

recently who's just great great to see

52:12

these guys and interacting with with Troy

52:14

Underbridge and Melvina got

52:16

Beth Grant from the dinner

52:18

party episode came back and Sensei

52:22

Ira from I think

52:24

that was a fight where

52:26

he originally showed up and

52:29

you know we got some some great

52:31

newcomers with Gabor and Wolf and

52:33

Cousin Zeke. Yeah this was a

52:35

this episode was actually a delight to direct it

52:37

was it was really fun and

52:40

all of the actors were really

52:42

really up for it they were

52:44

just excited everybody was so excited to be there

52:46

and they knew we were kind of doing something

52:48

special just having all of these you know Dwight

52:51

friends together side

52:54

note James Urbaniac who plays Rolf is

52:56

originally from New Jersey and his father

52:58

Frank ran the Marlboro Recreation Summer Camp

53:00

program that I went to for many

53:02

summers as a kid so

53:04

we chat a little bit about his dad and

53:06

the camp that I went to. That's

53:09

quite the cast of characters

53:11

I will also add that ultimately

53:13

he day interviews as well.

53:16

Yes well I asked Steve

53:18

Burgess about how this came about as well

53:20

and he said that Greg and the writers

53:22

made a list of everyone that they would

53:24

want for the episode and

53:27

like you mentioned earlier Angela we shot this

53:29

during the second week of December but

53:32

Alison Jones started reaching out to

53:34

people the week before Thanksgiving. We

53:37

almost never reached out to people that early for

53:39

things but Steve Burgess

53:41

said Alison and her associate Ben

53:44

did an amazing job of trying

53:46

to coordinate everyone's schedule to

53:48

see who could be available this same

53:51

week of shooting. Steve said

53:53

they booked 19 non-regular

53:55

actors for this episode and

53:57

in the end basically what they did was

54:00

they wrote for who they could

54:02

get. So there

54:04

were some people that they were trying to get

54:06

that they did not ultimately get. Steve

54:08

Burgess also said that the most

54:11

difficult person to schedule

54:13

was Mike Schur as Mose because

54:15

he was actively working on Parks

54:17

and Recreation, but they made

54:19

it work. I'm sure Mike was

54:21

so excited to get dressed back up as

54:23

Mose. I know. Well,

54:25

everyone else in the bullpen is looking

54:28

in to the conference room and they're

54:30

not happy about it. They

54:33

say they don't want to judge, but these

54:35

people smell. Meredith says, hey, if I ever

54:37

get that bad, will you tell me? And Kevin goes,

54:39

I tell you this all the time, Meredith. I

54:42

know. And she says, walked right into that one. I

54:45

love that exchange. Well,

54:47

we asked Dave about directing this episode and

54:49

any shots that stood out to him. And

54:51

he mentioned this scene. Here's what he had

54:53

to say. You know, from

54:56

a directing standpoint, I don't really have

54:58

any groundbreaking shots or any crazy camera moves

55:01

or even, you know, strange

55:03

editing things in this episode. You

55:05

know, most of the action takes place in the

55:08

conference room, the bullpen and Andy's office. But

55:10

I will say, do get a kick out

55:12

of the shots of the weirdos in the

55:15

conference room where the main cast is just

55:17

looking at them from the bullpen. It's

55:19

like they're looking at a zoo or

55:22

a fish tank behind the glass window.

55:24

And they're just, yeah, it's like

55:26

looking at a zoo. I

55:30

totally get that. Yeah. Moses

55:33

up next for his interview and

55:35

he's really patted his resume. So

55:38

I'd like, why would you put this on

55:40

there? We live together. I know everything about

55:42

you. Yes. So most does

55:44

what most does and he runs away.

55:47

Yes. Steve Burgess said we

55:49

had to use a photo double for

55:51

that part. That's not Mike. Sure. Running.

55:53

No way. They really got

55:55

the most rundown whoever they were. I

55:57

know. Clark watches most out the

55:59

window. and then he's gonna ask everyone how

56:03

they heard about this position. Nate's

56:05

response is my favorite line in the

56:07

entire episode and I'm gonna play it.

56:10

Okay. So how'd you guys

56:12

hear about the position? My

56:14

mom. Dwight called my house but he

56:17

didn't realize that I had already moved out because

56:19

my mom and I are quarreling because I can't

56:22

stay out of her stuff. Yeah

56:25

I can't stay out of her stuff. It

56:29

made me laugh so hard. Like what

56:31

is he getting into? Her Tupperware? Like

56:33

what is he messing with that she's

56:35

like you're out? We're

56:37

also gonna learn in the

56:39

scene that Dwight attended a special

56:42

school where he would learn to

56:44

harness his mutant abilities. Mm-hmm.

56:46

And it just turned out to be run by a

56:49

con man. Go figure.

56:53

No kidding. In

56:56

this next scene

56:59

Angela is not having it now. She

57:01

says someone needs to do something before

57:03

I am stuck working next to one of these

57:06

people for the next 20 years.

57:08

20 years? Angela

57:10

Martin is in it for the long haul. She

57:13

sure is. And now

57:16

everyone's about to turn on Jim.

57:18

Yes. It's because of Jim that now

57:20

they might have to work with one of these oddballs

57:22

that Dwight's bringing in. Well we

57:24

got a very impressive fan catch from

57:27

Maddie N in Cocoa Beach, Florida who

57:29

said around 11 minutes and 30 seconds

57:32

when everyone is talking around Pam's desk

57:34

about who the next hire will be

57:36

Pam says quote I'm in a position

57:39

to vote for Nate and that just

57:41

feels wrong but

57:44

her lips move differently like what

57:46

she's really saying is that

57:49

just feels weird. Am

57:52

I crazy for seeing that? Am I completely

57:54

making this up or did Jenna actually say

57:56

weird instead of wrong and have to fix

57:58

it in a voiceover? Maddy,

58:01

I watched it. That

58:03

last word of my line is 100%

58:05

dubbed. It's a dub catch. Why?

58:10

Why were you dubbing? I don't

58:12

know because I looked at the script and

58:15

my line was supposed to be... That

58:18

just feels off. I

58:20

was supposed to say off. I wasn't

58:22

supposed to say weird or wrong. Huh.

58:25

I don't know why we did this. I

58:27

don't remember going in and doing any kind

58:29

of dubbing so I think they must have

58:31

grabbed that word from a different take and

58:34

put it on this take. Yeah.

58:36

That's what I think. That's a good

58:38

catch. It's a really good catch. Oh

58:41

my gosh, the next scene is

58:44

just cringe at Jim's desk

58:47

with the call with David Wallace. Oh

58:50

yeah. Oh my goodness.

58:52

This is when Jim calls David

58:54

Wallace because he's trying to get

58:57

some say and who is hired

58:59

so he can protect Pam. Yeah.

59:01

But instead he is gonna learn

59:03

that number one, David Wallace

59:05

is gonna cut his pay in half

59:07

to pay for this replacement and

59:10

two, he tries to

59:12

ask David to be an investor,

59:14

an athlete and David cuts him

59:17

off mid-sentence. I know. Oh. And

59:21

Dwight is just rolling on the

59:24

floor. He's so happy. Mm-hmm. Pam

59:26

has gotten set up and decides to

59:28

go to the warehouse. She's down there.

59:30

She's gonna be working on her mural and

59:33

he has a lot of

59:35

notes for her. Yeah. And

59:37

she's like, you know what? Thank you. Why don't

59:40

you go upstairs and interview

59:42

for the new position? They're hiring.

59:45

He's genuinely thankful. He's like, thank

59:47

you for this information. I will.

59:49

We're now gonna see a montage

59:51

of all of Dwight's odd friends

59:53

doing things around the office. One

59:55

is drying his pants in the

59:57

bathroom. Another one is... at

1:00:00

the vending machine, one tries to touch Daryl's

1:00:02

hair, and the rest of the co-workers have

1:00:04

had it. Jim Nellie and Daryl find white

1:00:06

in the kitchen and they confront him about

1:00:08

it. Yeah. So

1:00:11

we got this fan catch from Chris

1:00:13

Kay in Vancouver, British Columbia who said,

1:00:16

at 13 minutes and 55 seconds, is

1:00:19

Phyllis sitting in the back annex

1:00:21

by HR? Why would she be

1:00:24

back there? And I looked at it,

1:00:26

Angela, and she is. She's sitting right there.

1:00:29

Yes. Well, I have the answer for

1:00:32

you. There was a really big storyline

1:00:34

for Aaron, Pete, and Phyllis in this

1:00:36

episode. It went through the

1:00:39

entire episode and the whole thing

1:00:41

was cut. There's a

1:00:43

lot of it in deleted scenes if you have

1:00:45

the DVDs. I'd like to play you two clips

1:00:47

from it that really set up the storyline. Great.

1:00:50

The storyline all starts because Aaron is

1:00:53

trying to get a bank account, and

1:00:55

Pete is helping her online set it up.

1:00:58

And here are the clips. Now

1:01:01

you just need a password. It needs to

1:01:03

be six letters long, at least one capital,

1:01:05

and a number. A, B,

1:01:09

C, D, E, F, Washington,

1:01:12

D.C., six. Pete

1:01:14

is helping me get a bank account online.

1:01:16

It's official. I'm a nerd now. So,

1:01:19

security questions. What was

1:01:21

your mother's maiden name? I

1:01:24

don't know. Okay,

1:01:26

how about... What's

1:01:28

your father's occupation? No clue. I don't

1:01:30

know who my dad is. Oh,

1:01:33

that's right. I'm sorry. What

1:01:35

is the middle name of your oldest sibling? I

1:01:38

don't know if I have one. What street was

1:01:40

your first home on? Hmm.

1:01:43

Wow. They do not make these orphan friendly, do they?

1:01:45

Uh-uh. Aw, I know. So then Aaron decides to approach Phyllis

1:01:48

because she knows Phyllis had a child

1:01:54

the same time Aaron was born, and

1:01:56

maybe Phyllis might have some

1:01:58

clues as to Aaron's origins. origin story.

1:02:00

So they approach Phyllis. Phyllis says

1:02:02

she's sorry. She can't remember anything and

1:02:05

she can't help them. But then she

1:02:07

remembers, oh wait, my mom videotaped my

1:02:09

childbirth and I was at the hospital.

1:02:11

Maybe there's something in this video footage

1:02:13

that will be a clue for Erin. And

1:02:16

then there's a scene in the break room.

1:02:18

It's got a major old tech alert

1:02:21

because it says an old TV

1:02:23

is hooked up to a Betamax

1:02:25

machine. Phyllis, Pete and Erin watch Phyllis'

1:02:27

videotape. You never see what's on the screen.

1:02:29

You just see them reacting to it. And

1:02:31

Erin goes, how long does this go on

1:02:34

for? And Phyllis says, oh, I was in

1:02:36

labor for 56 hours. And then

1:02:38

Daryl walks in and he's like, what are you

1:02:40

guys watching? And he's like, freaked

1:02:42

out. And then it ends with

1:02:44

like a video tour of the nursery

1:02:46

of all the babies and there's a

1:02:48

little red headed baby. And they

1:02:51

kind of all freeze the TV and look at

1:02:53

each other like, oh my gosh, is that Erin?

1:02:56

So it was a huge storyline. Well,

1:02:58

I remember Angela and when I read

1:03:01

that fan question, I went to the

1:03:03

script as well. And after

1:03:05

they see the video,

1:03:07

they realized she was born at this

1:03:09

one particular hospital. So her and Pete

1:03:11

go take a walk in the neighborhood

1:03:14

near the hospital and they, they

1:03:16

wonder like, oh, is this maybe where

1:03:19

she grew up? Is this her

1:03:22

background? Right. Her neighborhood. She, there's

1:03:24

a very sweet line where on

1:03:26

the, in the nursery on the crib,

1:03:29

the name just says St. Margaret's

1:03:31

and Erin goes, oh, my

1:03:34

original name was St. Margaret's. I guess I

1:03:36

was a really religious baby. And Phyllis

1:03:39

was like, no, honey. I think

1:03:41

that's the church. Well,

1:03:45

we asked Dave Rogers about this and

1:03:47

he sent us in an audio clip

1:03:49

explaining why this entire storyline, this very

1:03:51

elaborate storyline was cut. Here's what he

1:03:54

had to say. You know,

1:03:56

often in our episodes, we have scripts that

1:03:58

are way, way longer. then

1:04:01

the time allotted to the final broadcast

1:04:03

of the television show. So a lot

1:04:05

of stuff gets cut out. Sometimes

1:04:08

there's a beat here and there or a

1:04:10

runner or a scene or

1:04:12

multiple scenes. In this case, we

1:04:15

ended up removing an entire storyline from the

1:04:17

episode, which had Aaron and Pete

1:04:20

exploring Aaron being an orphan. They

1:04:23

go to talk to Phyllis. This was a tricky

1:04:25

story. I think we all did our best to

1:04:28

execute it and Jake and

1:04:30

Ellie do a great job. We really

1:04:32

get to see them connecting in a nice

1:04:34

way. But ultimately, the story

1:04:36

deals with Aaron being an orphan and not

1:04:38

getting any closer to finding her parents or

1:04:40

any other real information. It

1:04:44

wasn't very satisfying. There's

1:04:46

also a sad undertone between her being an

1:04:49

orphan and Phyllis giving up a baby. It

1:04:53

might have worked better in a supersized episode where the

1:04:55

beats are a little bit more spread out while we

1:04:57

have the comedy of the Dwight story. But in a

1:04:59

21-35 minute episode, it just felt really heavy. I

1:05:05

did let Ellie and Jake know that we ended up cutting

1:05:07

it and I explained the same reasons

1:05:09

I'm telling you now. I reassured

1:05:11

them that what they were doing together was great and

1:05:13

to keep doing it as their

1:05:16

storyline keeps moving on. But

1:05:18

this was just a matter of this particular story

1:05:21

and the time that we had for the show and

1:05:23

that we just couldn't trim out a

1:05:25

beat here or there in their story. It was

1:05:27

like every beat depended on the beat before. It

1:05:29

was very linear. So that's

1:05:32

what happened. We ended up cutting this

1:05:35

whole storyline out and

1:05:38

just focused more on Dwight and

1:05:40

his freaky friends and

1:05:42

had a little room in there for

1:05:45

the Pam, Brian, Jim relationship arc.

1:05:52

It is so like Dave to

1:05:54

reach out to us if

1:05:56

he ever had to cut something that we had

1:05:58

done. He would always

1:06:01

reassure us. He is so

1:06:03

thoughtful. Just so you know this wasn't your performance. Yeah.

1:06:06

This was a story thing, this was a time

1:06:08

thing, this was a whatever. We

1:06:11

just didn't have time to tell this story. Yeah,

1:06:14

he's a standup guy that way. Yeah.

1:06:17

Now Dwight is gonna interview Wolf, but

1:06:19

this interview goes off the rails really

1:06:22

quickly. Yeah, it really does.

1:06:24

And I think Dwight's starting to get

1:06:26

nervous. He's now gonna interview Hide. And

1:06:29

that doesn't work out either. So

1:06:32

Dwight is in the conference room and he's got

1:06:34

this sort of like cork board and he has

1:06:36

the name of all the different applicants on the

1:06:38

board. And he's saying,

1:06:40

I just can't seem to decide.

1:06:43

Here's the little tidbit I teased earlier. And

1:06:45

remember when we were at lunch? With

1:06:48

Dave, yeah. Yes. And

1:06:50

he told us how they didn't

1:06:52

confirm Rolf for the episode. They

1:06:54

didn't have James Urbaniac confirmed

1:06:56

to be in the episode until after

1:06:59

we already started shooting the episode. Yeah,

1:07:01

he wasn't even on set till like

1:07:03

day two or something. Yes. But

1:07:06

Dave told us he was so hopeful that

1:07:08

it would work out that he

1:07:10

shot this scene with a blank

1:07:13

note card up in the corner and he

1:07:16

wrote Rolf on it in post. That's

1:07:19

right, that's right. He put

1:07:21

a little placeholder just in case they got

1:07:23

him on that cork board. Yes. Dwight's

1:07:26

in a tough spot now. He's actually kind of

1:07:28

rolling around on the floor in Andy's office. And

1:07:31

Melvina wants to know if he needs to

1:07:33

be changed. He says no, he does that

1:07:35

himself now. And she says, well,

1:07:37

are you going to have a decision soon because

1:07:39

I've been double parked for five hours? And

1:07:42

Dwight's like, no, your car's been towed by now. And

1:07:46

then a few more of his friends come in and

1:07:49

they promise, listen, no matter who

1:07:51

you choose, we'll still be your

1:07:54

friend. And Dwight's like, yeah, I

1:07:56

mean, even if I choose none of

1:07:58

you. Well,

1:08:01

that wouldn't happen. You wouldn't drag us all

1:08:03

down here and waste all of our time

1:08:05

to pick none of us. Yeah,

1:08:07

that would be insulting. So

1:08:09

Twite is gonna have to team up with

1:08:12

Jim. Yes, he's gonna seek out

1:08:14

his enemy because he has no choice. And

1:08:17

he says, Jim, will

1:08:19

you please pick someone? And

1:08:21

he basically says, I don't

1:08:23

want to hire any of these people. You

1:08:25

can hire Clark, but you have to break the

1:08:28

news to everyone. And we're gonna make it seem

1:08:30

like it was your decision. Twite

1:08:32

says, it turns out my standards for

1:08:34

co-workers are higher than my standards for

1:08:36

friends. You couldn't imagine any

1:08:39

of them in the old golden gray. And

1:08:42

yes, he did design uniforms for

1:08:44

Dunder Mifflin. Okay, as a talking

1:08:46

head, he shows us the uniforms.

1:08:48

They are summer, winter, jungle, and

1:08:50

formal. We got a

1:08:52

fan question from Megan B. in Toronto

1:08:55

and Martha B. in Malta who said,

1:08:57

Who drew the Dunder

1:08:59

Mifflin uniforms and were they given any

1:09:01

instructions by the writers? Well,

1:09:03

this was such a quick pop, but I loved it so

1:09:05

much. I went to the script.

1:09:08

There was not a description for these drawings

1:09:10

in the script. Steve

1:09:12

Burgess thinks that Alicia, our costume

1:09:14

designer, might have drawn these. And

1:09:17

we asked Dave Rogers. He couldn't remember who

1:09:20

drew them, but he did have a fun

1:09:22

tidbit to share. Here's what he

1:09:24

said. One of the

1:09:26

things that was really fun was Twite's

1:09:29

talking head where he shows off sketches

1:09:32

of Dunder Mifflin uniforms that

1:09:34

he designed. I do

1:09:36

remember giving small notes to color them

1:09:38

in so they'd read better on camera,

1:09:40

that they weren't just pencil

1:09:42

sketches. What's really

1:09:44

interesting is that when we got into editing, Greg

1:09:47

actually thought they were too fashionable,

1:09:50

and he had us reshoot with new versions. And

1:09:53

so we had alternate versions. We

1:09:55

shot a new version of the talking head

1:09:57

where the uniforms really leaned more and more.

1:10:00

into the military. The

1:10:02

summer outfit was practically a

1:10:05

geely suit, but

1:10:08

after seeing the new costumes, he changed his mind.

1:10:11

And so he liked the original costumes better,

1:10:13

and that's what you see in the show.

1:10:16

I think I have pictures

1:10:18

of the alternate ones. I will send

1:10:20

that to you guys. So

1:10:23

Dave is so amazing. And you know

1:10:25

what? He saves everything too, Jenna. We're

1:10:27

kind of both like that. You are

1:10:29

digital clutter buddies. We are, except his

1:10:32

are organized. It's

1:10:34

true. But you know, I looked

1:10:36

at all of those sketches, and they did

1:10:38

remind me so much of the sketches that

1:10:40

I saw Alicia do over the years. Me

1:10:43

too. Such a good artist, and it had

1:10:45

her sort of style. So I feel like

1:10:47

they were hers. But I will put

1:10:49

them in story so you guys can all see. Next

1:10:51

up, Jim is going to break the news

1:10:54

to all of the applicants. He says, I'm

1:10:56

hiring none of you. Dwight

1:10:58

pretends to be outraged. Jim's like, tone

1:11:01

it down. Tone it down. Yes, exactly.

1:11:04

Ralph is like, I know what this was.

1:11:06

I know you're behind this.

1:11:09

I wouldn't open any suspicious packages.

1:11:11

Or maybe you should open them.

1:11:13

You do not want to cross Ralph. You do

1:11:16

not. All of Dwight's friends start to leave,

1:11:18

and they're kind of unsure what they're going to do for

1:11:20

the rest of the day. Then they

1:11:22

decide to go paintball without Dwight. He

1:11:24

is bummed. And Creed, as

1:11:27

they leave, kind of sneakily joins them

1:11:29

in leaving. Yes, we

1:11:31

got a fan catch from Emily B.

1:11:33

in San Diego and St. Louis, who

1:11:36

said, I'm not the best at fan catches.

1:11:38

So I was pretty darn proud of myself

1:11:40

for noticing this one. Dwight's friends all

1:11:43

leave to play paintball, and we see

1:11:45

Creed run out after them, presumably to

1:11:47

join them. But when Dwight later gets

1:11:49

an email with a picture of the group,

1:11:51

Creed isn't in the photo. Maybe

1:11:54

Creed just used the opportunity to get out

1:11:56

of work early. Emily,

1:11:58

I think you're right. was

1:12:00

just a plain hooky. No,

1:12:02

ladies. He actually went.

1:12:06

But he's not in the picture. I know.

1:12:09

Here's how it was in the shooting draft. There

1:12:11

was a tag written for the episode where they

1:12:13

all go and play paintball, and

1:12:16

it said, exterior paintball field day.

1:12:19

Creed is on his knees, begging for

1:12:21

his life as Wolf holds a paintball

1:12:23

gun to his head. Gabor stands nearby.

1:12:25

It's also in deleted scenes,

1:12:27

and I'm going to play it for you. Okay,

1:12:59

I'll talk. The Hobbit and the

1:13:02

old woman are hiding in the

1:13:04

porta potty. Oh

1:13:08

my gosh. So I knew about this tag

1:13:10

lady, but I didn't know Creed was in

1:13:12

it. Yes. And

1:13:14

Creed ultimately gives up Melvina and Troy. I guess

1:13:17

they were hiding in the porta potty, like he

1:13:19

said. But here's my theory. I

1:13:22

think Creed took the picture. Oh,

1:13:24

that's good. Uh-huh. I

1:13:27

like that. That's why he wasn't in it. And

1:13:30

you know, when we had lunch with Dave,

1:13:32

he told us shooting these paintball tag scenes

1:13:34

were his favorite. He loved it so much.

1:13:37

He said it was just so fun to shoot something

1:13:39

that had some action, you know? But

1:13:41

they ultimately didn't use it. But it is all

1:13:43

in deleted scenes. Listen,

1:13:45

I think that the episode ends

1:13:48

perfectly. I think that this tag

1:13:50

was probably really funny. And

1:13:53

fun to do, right? They all got to be

1:13:55

outside running around. But ooh,

1:13:57

the way it ended was so powerful. We're

1:14:00

almost there. We are almost there. Clark gets

1:14:02

the job and Jim is going to help

1:14:04

him get all set up at his desk.

1:14:07

Pam comes back from the warehouse. She's

1:14:09

very happy that it's Clark and not

1:14:11

one of Dwight's friends. Jim's

1:14:15

going to leave and go back to Philly. Yeah,

1:14:18

Jim kisses her goodbye and he

1:14:21

leaves. They're sitting there

1:14:23

in their new clump and Clark says to Pam,

1:14:25

hey, I'm going to the kitchen. You want anything?

1:14:27

I think that's a good desk mate. Very

1:14:30

nice. Pam says

1:14:33

she's okay. Dwight says, I would love some

1:14:35

more coffee, but then Clark

1:14:37

says, oh, sorry. You

1:14:39

have to be this tall for coffee.

1:14:41

He calls back that little bit that

1:14:43

Dwight did to him to break room

1:14:45

earlier. Yeah, Dwight's not cool enough for

1:14:47

coffee. Yeah. So Pam sees

1:14:49

that Dwight is sad and she says, hey, do

1:14:51

you want to haze the new guy? Dwight

1:14:54

is so tickled. Pam's like, okay, here's some

1:14:56

Saran wrap. Next time Clark goes to the

1:14:59

bathroom and Dwight interrupts her, he's like, no,

1:15:01

no, don't worry. I know what to do.

1:15:03

And they kind of get tickled. And

1:15:05

then Clark returns to his desk and

1:15:08

Dwight covers his face in Saran wrap.

1:15:11

He's a neat, cute, cute, cute, neat,

1:15:13

the toilet trick. So lady, I

1:15:15

remember reading this and I remember thinking,

1:15:18

we're going to kill Clark. We're

1:15:21

going to kill him because I mean, Rain admitted

1:15:23

that he would

1:15:25

really go for it in scenes like

1:15:27

this. Yes. He goes all out. Yes.

1:15:30

So when we were planning this scene, I was

1:15:32

like, we need a signal. We

1:15:35

need a safe word. We

1:15:37

need some way that we

1:15:39

know the difference between Clark acting

1:15:42

and Clark actually suffocating. We

1:15:45

also asked Dave about this scene and here's what he

1:15:47

had to say. Rain

1:15:49

fully commits to being Dwight in his

1:15:51

performance every time. And I remember being

1:15:53

a little nervous when reading

1:15:55

the script and it said Dwight was going to

1:15:58

wrap Clark's head in shrink wrap. So of course

1:16:00

we get the. to set and everyone is there

1:16:02

telling me, we need to watch Clark and make

1:16:04

sure he can breathe. Like everybody's just anxious and

1:16:06

nervous. So it builds up all this anxiety for

1:16:08

this, you know, really small, I mean,

1:16:10

I wouldn't call it a stunt, you

1:16:12

know, this physical action between two actors,

1:16:15

you know, on a controlled set or a little

1:16:17

office set. I will say that

1:16:19

they shot take one. It looked pretty good to

1:16:21

me. And when we cut, they

1:16:23

were both laughing. And then Rain asked, you know, you okay?

1:16:26

Clark was like, oh yeah, that was fine. You can go

1:16:28

even more than that. So, you

1:16:30

know, they did several takes. The two of

1:16:33

them really had fun doing the gag. Clark

1:16:35

was never in any real danger, but

1:16:38

he sold it that he was, you

1:16:40

know, choking and suffocating and, you know,

1:16:42

it was just, to me, I was really happy with

1:16:45

how it came out. It came out, you know, really,

1:16:47

really funny. It was

1:16:49

so realistic to me. I had forgotten this moment, you

1:16:51

know, and then in our rewatch, I felt like

1:16:53

I saw it for the first time. And I was

1:16:55

like, ah, I

1:16:57

was in full panic attack mode the entire time

1:17:00

we shot this scene. Oh, I bet. My

1:17:03

performance is my real

1:17:06

reaction. All

1:17:09

right, are we ready for the final

1:17:11

moment? Yeah, here

1:17:14

it comes. Jim is

1:17:16

gonna have a talking head. He

1:17:18

says, of course it matters who

1:17:20

sits next to Pam. Who you

1:17:23

sit next to is who you spend your life with.

1:17:26

He fell in love because he spent all those

1:17:28

years staring at Pam. And

1:17:30

then the camera reveals

1:17:33

Brian holding

1:17:35

a boom over Pam and

1:17:37

just looking at her with such

1:17:40

adoration and smiling. And

1:17:42

Jim's last line of his talking head is,

1:17:45

that stuff definitely matters.

1:17:49

I mean, people lost

1:17:51

their minds. Mm-hmm, yeah.

1:17:55

Turns out maybe Brian and

1:17:57

Alyssa's marriage isn't. As

1:18:00

strong as we thought it was. He

1:18:03

definitely likes looking at Pam. I

1:18:06

have one funny behind the scenes detail

1:18:08

about this moment. What is it? I

1:18:11

remember when you guys were doing it, we were

1:18:13

there. I was over in the accounting nook. You

1:18:15

don't end up seeing us, but

1:18:17

I'll never forget Chris. He was so funny and

1:18:19

charming and he was having to

1:18:21

hold that boom over his head. He's

1:18:25

a super fit guy, but

1:18:27

his arms after take after take started

1:18:29

to shake. He was

1:18:31

like, I gotta rest this

1:18:34

boom. We all had

1:18:36

such appreciation for our boom operators, but

1:18:38

I think Chris above all were like,

1:18:40

wow, you guys are so damn strong.

1:18:43

Now that you say that, I do remember

1:18:45

that. Chris was very committed. He's one of

1:18:48

those actors. He's like, if I'm playing a

1:18:50

boom operator, I'm going to hold the boom.

1:18:52

I don't know if you noticed in the

1:18:54

first scene, he's doing all

1:18:56

that business, like wrapping up chords. He

1:18:58

learned that. He

1:19:01

was like, I want to look like

1:19:03

a real boom operator. He was all

1:19:05

very committed. Very method. There

1:19:08

you have it, everybody. That

1:19:10

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1:19:13

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1:19:15

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1:19:17

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1:19:20

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