In this fourth podcast with my guest host, David Gushee, we have an enlightening conversation with John Kingston, founder of a movement for spiritual renewal called "American Awakening."  We spoke to John as he was at his farm in Vermont, away from the cares of the world.  What's most interesting is that, while he might be able to ignore what's going on in this country, he has chosen (or perhaps has BEEN chosen) to devote himself fully to this cause.

In what's turning out to be a series of discussions with extraordinarily courages leaders, you won't want to miss this enlightening conversation who has much to say about reaching out, crossing boundaries, bringing people together, and renewing our spirit.