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he's involved with the Edmonton River Hawks in

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Randy Gregg, of course, played for the

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to our guest, we're

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going to give you a snippet of

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what many people think was the

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best fight ever in minor

1:49

pro history. Torechuk

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has squared with Engelstadt

1:54

and the two and the gun to throw punches and

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boy, look at them slugging each other. I mean, this

1:59

is a great time. is a heavyweight

2:01

tilt. They both have gotten

2:03

in good punches. Mel Engelstadt

2:05

and the Solabears, Darcy Hordechek

2:07

still going at it. Oh,

2:10

left and right. Hordechek

2:12

trying to get in that last left hand.

2:15

He's a southpaw. As over

2:17

the top comes Mel Engelstadt with

2:19

what appears to

2:22

be the 900th punches. That was the greatest

2:24

fight I've ever seen. I

2:27

wonder how many times Darcy Hordechek has had

2:29

radio schlubs like yours truly sit there and

2:31

bring them aboard. Hordy, welcome back to the

2:33

show. How you doing, big man? Great,

2:36

Bob. How are you doing? Good. Can you laugh

2:38

at that? You weren't laughing at it while you

2:41

were in the middle of the fight. But could

2:43

you laugh about that now because that was an

2:46

old school Rockham soccer and robot scrap

2:48

if there ever was one? Yeah,

2:51

every time I watch it, it's kind of like an

2:53

out of body experience. I was like, what was I

2:55

thinking back then? And I think

2:57

after that game, I was like, hey, coach, I don't

2:59

know if I've cut out for this role. And they're

3:01

like, Hordy, you just fought one of the toughest guys

3:04

ever played probably in

3:07

the IHL. And everything from here on won't

3:09

be as hard as that fight. So that

3:11

kind of kept me motivated to keep playing.

3:13

I remember Engelstadt came up, I think it

3:15

was with Dallas and he went right after

3:17

Bob Probert. He wanted to fight Bob Probert

3:20

because he was a little bit bigger than

3:22

you, wasn't he, Darcy? Yeah,

3:24

you know, we're pretty close to the same size.

3:26

But I think by then he already had a

3:28

thousand penalty minutes and about 600 fights more than

3:30

I did. So his nose

3:33

was on the other side of his face. And I

3:35

think he fought, you know, all the big boys

3:37

in the NHL by the time I got up

3:40

as a 20 year old. All right. Well, you

3:42

know, Darcy, this is I mentioned the fact that

3:44

Randy Gregg, of course, the good doctor, when five

3:46

Stanley Cups of the orders, he actually finished his

3:48

career with the Vancouver Canucks. You

3:50

played in both Vancouver when

3:52

the Canucks were on the rise with, you

3:55

know, to the classiest. I

3:57

love the Cidines, those guys. And those guys were

3:59

tough. because toughness is when you're a

4:01

skill player and you play through the crap and

4:03

bring it. And that's what they did. You

4:06

played with those guys in Vancouver and then you came

4:08

to Edmonton late in your NHL career. So

4:11

you must feel pretty privileged that you got to play

4:13

in a couple of Canadian markets, even though during a

4:15

time in Edmonton when maybe the team wasn't quite as

4:17

good as it is right now. You

4:20

know what, any time you get to play in the

4:22

Canadian markets and get a chance to, you know, experience

4:24

just the passion of all the fans. And like you

4:26

said, in Vancouver we were right up on the rise

4:28

and I think we finished first that year and we're

4:30

expected to make a good push

4:33

in playoffs. But that's when the Blackhawks got

4:35

hot and we couldn't move old

4:37

Bufflin in front of the net and I think he kind of knocked

4:40

us out of that series. But yeah,

4:42

I know both teams, I'm just excited

4:44

for this series and obviously a

4:47

little bit of a disappointment with Vancouver coming

4:49

back in Edmonton. But in the end that's

4:51

kind of what makes you better as a

4:53

team and an organization. And I'm sure they're

4:55

going to bounce back tonight and it's going

4:57

to be a great series. And the fact

5:00

that Rick Tockett got this team to where

5:02

it's at and, you know, having your backup

5:04

that played whatever, three, four games all season and

5:06

him to be able to do this under

5:08

pressure is unheard of. So

5:10

at some point I feel like McDavid

5:13

and Nooch Hopkins and all the boys will

5:15

get to the sky and be able to,

5:18

you know, have some success against this guy. Well, we'll have

5:20

to wait and see. I mean, I ain't talking. It's like

5:22

I vote for the coach of the year. He did a

5:24

great job and he got my, I mean, I had no

5:27

block in there too. It was hard to ignore. Chris had

5:29

a seven. He's from Imperial, Saskatchewan. How

5:31

far is that from Cam Sack? Do you know? It's

5:34

pretty close. Yeah, no, Saskatchewan spread

5:36

out, but all these small little

5:39

towns are not too far from each other. The

5:41

greatest line ever about Saskatchewan was from the late,

5:43

great Pat Burns. And he said, Saskatchewan is so

5:45

flat you can watch your dog run away for

5:48

a week. You still want that?

5:51

No. And another one is why is it

5:53

so windy in Saskatchewan? Cause Manitoba sucks and Alberta

5:56

blows. you

6:00

go. You know,

6:02

age, Jerry, the agent, Jerry Johansson

6:04

will always say, Bob, uh,

6:07

you never go wrong with a guy from the

6:09

letter S Sweden. And this is God

6:11

to it. Those guys are good people usually. So,

6:14

uh, there you have it. Now the game has

6:16

changed a bit, um, since your

6:18

time. And I think you'd

6:20

be the, like, you know, when I think

6:22

back to the Canucks playing the Bruins in

6:24

the 2011 Stanley cup final, it seems what's

6:26

still good. Now, I guess you can argue

6:28

Florida and Boston kind of gotten nasty the

6:30

other night. Kachuk went, you know,

6:32

path and I took the fight and squared up with

6:34

him. I was a little surprised seeing pass

6:37

to get out of his comfort zone and

6:39

Kachuk in fairness has fought a

6:41

lot of guys after he didn't want to fight Zach Cassie

6:43

and then eventually took the fight. Um, but

6:45

it is a different game where we'll get to your son in

6:47

a second. Cause he was a high end pick. And I know

6:49

the last time I saw you, you were

6:51

in Edmonton for a tournament, but just

6:53

a thought on this, cause I

6:56

know you got a chance to watch it on a

6:58

daily, the players today, and we're watching the

7:00

most advanced player of all time. His name's

7:02

Connor, but they are incredibly advanced today, aren't

7:04

they? These guys are

7:07

unbelievable. Like just the training and you

7:09

know how they were able to, you know,

7:12

specialize in whatever they're doing. I'm going to,

7:14

you know, through it with my kid right

7:16

now where, you know, he's working with his

7:18

stick handling coach and then he has this

7:20

obviously skating coach. And after every time he

7:23

does something, they'll break down the video and

7:25

show them right then and there just his

7:27

angles and why he's not, you know, not

7:29

gliding around the ice properly. And honestly, my

7:33

kid trains in this basement here that has a

7:35

rink in Arizona, ironically, and I've

7:37

learned more watching him in

7:39

the last six months. I'm like, where was this

7:41

when we were kids, you know, and it's just

7:43

so far ahead with all these guys have. And

7:45

now you could see it on the bench after

7:47

every shift players are watching, you know? Um, so

7:51

no way, that's why the game is so incredible right now.

7:53

And it's so fun to see, you know, these teams battle

7:55

it out. And as you guys were finding

7:57

out in every other team, it doesn't matter once you get into

7:59

the playoffs. You know, it just, uh,

8:01

the goaltender gets hot and, uh, guys start to

8:03

play well in front of you. It's

8:06

a whole different game. Wow. The

8:08

owner of the last three years are the only team in

8:10

the Western Conference to advance to round two. They obviously want

8:12

to get further than that. You mentioned your son. His name

8:14

is Braden. Uh, number one,

8:16

a U S priority draft of

8:18

the Regina Pats. You of course

8:20

were a legendary Western league enforcer

8:23

in the late 1990s with the

8:25

Saskatoon Blades. You envision

8:27

Braden going the WHL route.

8:29

Yeah. He just, uh, he's

8:31

going to commit to the Regina Pats here in

8:33

the next couple of days. So it's pretty cool

8:36

that they took them first overall pick and, uh,

8:38

me and my wife, uh, after it happened, it

8:40

was kind of a surreal moment. We looked at

8:42

each other and we're like, is he this good

8:44

or, you know, and it's funny talking to scouts

8:46

because they always, you know, ask Braden, who do

8:48

you compare yourself to? And he,

8:50

he said, listen, my goal is to be kind of a, a,

8:52

to Chuck kind of player out there that can finish,

8:54

uh, finish in score and still be a pest

8:57

out there and run guys when he has to.

8:59

So he's got a little old stool and we have a

9:01

group chat with me, Burrows, BX, Mason Raymond. They're like, what

9:04

kind of player is your kid? And I said, you know

9:06

what? He just keeps his head up. I said, I didn't

9:08

realize I should have won another 180 picks earlier. If

9:11

I know when I get to keep my head up when I'm sick, Emily,

9:13

I would have seen where I'm shooting. But,

9:16

uh, obviously my dad did teach me that growing up. So

9:18

it's a, it's a little different game, but I'm excited for

9:20

his, uh, his path and, uh, for

9:22

him to play in the Western Oculi. All right.

9:24

I got to ask you right now, since I

9:26

mentioned Jerry Johansson, BX, uh, and I'm sure most

9:29

of the listeners know this or maybe they

9:31

don't, but Kevin works for Kurt Overhart. Has

9:33

he already tried to get you aboard with,

9:36

with KOs for, well,

9:38

they, uh, I got to, uh, who's

9:41

the assistant GM, uh, for the coyotes right now?

9:43

That wasn't worth it. Yeah. Yeah.

9:46

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

9:49

I Remember. Yeah. I

10:00

didn't think you needed an agent at fourteen

10:02

years old, but there's also some stuff kind

10:04

of behind the scenes to make sure everything

10:07

goes well. But right now are Dern Hermanson

10:09

is gonna help in a sound, guiding us

10:11

And you know how? I think he'll take

10:13

his eight dollars on every one of Britain's

10:15

paychecks. I think it's two hundred fifty dollars

10:18

a month, so you'll make a dollars off

10:20

of them births when he does make the

10:22

team in the future. So do a lot

10:24

though as your dirty Zero Play with front

10:26

of cycle or Nationals or and similar there

10:29

and you're there. Are

10:31

ya the a verge of told me he

10:33

likes a get Ready for all the calls

10:35

covenant of inflicted with first overall energy to

10:37

say it's they drafted. You know your your

10:39

to got drafted because your dad and you

10:41

know that feel or even Burgess to get

10:43

ready for all this stuff and I said

10:45

listen birds as you and I both know

10:47

you can get drafted first overall or last

10:49

overall and I said there's always some tough

10:51

kid from substantial under somebody that's going on

10:53

a farm and you know that there is

10:55

a little bit more motivated for you to

10:57

a cab to take your spot. So. We

11:00

the look at has dropped as anything,

11:02

it's just an opportunity to our Walt

11:04

Weiss quite similar plays for the Amazon

11:06

Wilkins Solar ago when oil is just

11:08

so two years in our know how

11:10

the of and simmer down a rivalry

11:12

between the heart attacks on the settlers

11:14

us and if I don't even read

11:16

I'd was weren't even draft and I

11:18

think he was an undrafted free to

11:20

the in an appliance you know several

11:22

hundred years by the way. Speaking to

11:24

be Access Time settlers mimic Px a

11:27

memory made sort of my business as

11:29

a set of Italy. Video blog Darcy

11:31

was allows one of honestly

11:33

the or size or yard

11:35

so I have a labor

11:37

job Love love. with

11:40

march everybody and time i think the

11:42

mod for to get by birds adler

11:44

and of those guys are sisters or

11:46

guys that have personalities and if you

11:49

know anything in the trooper mattress us

11:51

as you know you're gonna lose wow

11:53

this is a unique match up here

11:55

at rogers arena vancouver canucks the amazon

11:57

or stormer to knock an oiler darcy

11:59

or Chuck who willed his way

12:01

relatively speaking, I think it's fair

12:03

to say, Darcy, you were I

12:05

mean, there were super heavyweights like

12:08

Steve McIntyre and the late Derrick

12:10

Bughard in the league. When

12:12

you were in the league, you fought all those

12:14

guys and you were given away a lot of

12:16

size. So you showed a tremendous amount

12:18

of character. The

12:20

orders in Vancouver in this series from here and

12:22

now the Canucks have got JT Miller and Besser.

12:24

Lynn Holmes, a great third line center. They got

12:26

Quinn Hughes. The orders with Connor

12:28

and Leon and the last three years Darcy, Connor

12:31

and Leon are the two highest scoring players in

12:33

the NHL playoffs over those three years. In fact, they're

12:36

number two all time tied with Mario LaVue

12:38

in points per game in the playoffs.

12:41

Only Wayne Gretzky's ahead of him. Kind of puts things

12:43

in comparison, doesn't it? It's amazing. Just

12:45

watching those guys. We just went to

12:47

the Kings game there a few weeks ago and

12:50

just watching Driztidal and McDavid and warm up with

12:52

some of these guys, what they're doing at the

12:54

clock. Everybody's like, JT got lucky on that shot

12:56

right in the crease. And you're like, I go

12:58

out of the 30 pucks he shot warm up. He

13:01

put 29 of them in the same spot. I'm

13:03

like, these guys are just workhorses. They love the

13:05

game. They studied the game. And I

13:07

don't know if you ever heard this story, but McDavid actually

13:09

ended up staying in one of my rentals on

13:12

my street, two houses down. And

13:14

it was just fun to see this little kid who had

13:16

come over to my house, you know, a few years back.

13:18

And the only one to do is just shoot pucks and

13:20

play spike ball. And, you know,

13:22

it's crazy to see the success that they're

13:25

having. And I'm just hoping that

13:27

Driztidal, whatever is going on with him, that he's

13:29

able to come out and play tonight because

13:31

he's an important factor to that team.

13:33

But even without him, I'm sure

13:35

I got the horses that'll step up and be able to

13:37

give the Canucks a run. I know

13:39

you made it into Edmonton last year. I think it was

13:41

for tournament stuff that was going on. Any chance? Well,

13:44

you're going to come to town if your boy

13:46

gets a chance at some point to I've

13:48

got a friend who's steps on

13:51

as a six foot four right shot defenseman that

13:53

played for Victoria this year. And

13:55

We've had 16 games in the regular season

13:57

in the playoffs. James Patrick Loved him. There

14:00

are. it's four hundred ninety

14:02

five pounds of foresees for

14:04

I see. It

14:07

as if your friend gets an opportunity to get

14:09

him some games going to be I make your

14:11

way up to Canada. Hundred

14:14

percent. the outfit slides right down the road

14:16

and when you said those numbers, I feel

14:18

like that was George the Rocks to Do

14:20

just described. So I'm sure we'll probably see

14:22

or another episode of or to check in

14:24

the right. but I don't think it'll come

14:26

down of fighting. it'll be more us who

14:28

could put the puck have an adverse. To

14:30

to the for generations as a leader

14:32

with this darcy of all of a

14:35

guy's every year old George had a

14:37

lot of respect for the guys wrongly

14:39

didn't fight man a lot ah did

14:41

with robbery and almost destroyed and we

14:44

said if he ever fought marry my

14:46

see my really seriously hurt somebody be

14:48

honest with his or her euro you

14:50

know probably us oh a wider size

14:53

tabby way for their anybody this like

14:55

were you scared everytime he jory about

14:57

we that were myers do so. And

15:00

talk about dealing with the nerves of the role Where

15:02

there are other times you're a little bit nervous on

15:04

a game day knowing that if you you might have

15:06

to go up against or city just kind of accepted

15:08

as part of a your job at your own. Everyday

15:12

you're nervous here. One punch away in

15:14

front of seven teams and seventy thousand

15:16

fans get booed. So you know. Obviously

15:18

I grew up with a lot of

15:20

face and I knew that obviously a

15:23

freezer Mcduffie was going to be done

15:25

to be under orders. Sir Knight said,

15:27

you know matter, whoever I played at,

15:29

always have. to watch their fight video and

15:31

just break down on who beat them how

15:33

they beat images study at sandown you know

15:36

it's it's one of those things when he's

15:38

stubborn or you never know what's gonna happen

15:40

but the dirt boogaard was deaf we the

15:42

guy were i knew that i was one

15:45

points away from feel basically i get my

15:47

career ended in their souls yeah there's there's

15:49

always guys like that in business i was

15:51

i was probably the smallest heavyweight i kinda

15:53

got sucked in that category does not have

15:56

a middle way to ever stop and or

15:58

solo finally did a nice I think I

16:00

beat the snot out of him so that was

16:02

the last time I got to play the middleweight.

16:04

But yeah, so it's a

16:06

crazy journey and I think guys like McGrattan

16:08

and maybe Mack and Tyre and Beauregard were

16:10

probably the only guys not getting nervous because

16:13

they knew that not only did

16:15

they have the reach but they

16:17

didn't mind eating a punch and giving a punch.

16:20

I grew up playing against a guy named Todd Ewan

16:22

from St. Albert and of the 66-borns they had

16:25

Emmanuel Vivaros as well and Vivaros was like

16:27

Bobby Orr. I mean he was the CHL

16:29

player of the year when PA won the memorial cup and

16:33

Todd was a really good player, right?

16:35

But when he went to junior he

16:37

became a fighter and he knocked Bob

16:39

Probert out one night when

16:42

he was with St. Louis. You can type it up

16:44

right now Todd, you know, like probably neither of them

16:46

are with us anymore and

16:49

Todd and Probert came back

16:51

in the same game that he got knocked out in

16:53

a fight and beat him. And

16:55

that's just the way it was and he beat you within the fight.

16:59

That's how those guys rolled at a little bit different

17:01

time but not as much

17:03

of that unfortunately. I don't think we have, you

17:06

know, sort of the designated guys in those roles.

17:08

You could argue that McDermott does it and Reeves

17:10

does it a bit but most of the teams

17:12

have got guys that are sort of functional toughness.

17:15

It is a different game. It's great watching, hearing

17:17

the news about your son. You

17:20

know the Oilers passed on that if you could check in 2016. Even

17:23

though Chris Noblock called me when he was

17:25

coaching area and Matthew was playing for London

17:27

and said, Stoff, tell Pete Shurelli to draft

17:29

Matthew Kaczuk. If

17:32

Braden Hornechuck is sitting there and he uses

17:34

anything close to Matthew Kaczuk and if I'm

17:37

still involved in the Oilers you can guarantee

17:39

me I will be putting some calls in

17:41

because as you know I am willing to

17:43

put in a call for a Hornechuck, Darcy.

17:46

Oh hey, you got me another year with the Oilers

17:48

when they were going to let me go so no,

17:50

I still owe you. So just know

17:52

that whatever I was as a player my son

17:54

is the opposite but he still has that grit

17:57

and I'm sure he'll be willing to drop a call.

18:00

gloves as need be. So enjoy the

18:02

ride and enjoy watching the playoffs and

18:04

thank you for joining us on our

18:06

throwback Friday feature. Appreciate

18:08

you having me on the channel. You bet.

18:10

There we go. That is Darcy Hornacheck former

18:13

Vancouver Canuckia, Edmonton, or we'll take a quick

18:15

time out. It is 5 24 in Edmonton.

18:19

The old minor pro goalie, Hermes, Texas on

18:21

the Ashley five floors text line. Bob Darcy

18:23

Hornacheck is one of the toughest kids in

18:25

the WHL. We loved his leadership when I

18:27

was with the blades. The only thing I

18:29

feel, one thing I still feel the orders

18:32

are missing. You may think that that time

18:34

has passed us by. No,

18:36

it is not. That

18:38

one comes to us from her. Thank

18:40

you for reaching out. We go to

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one of the Western Hockey League

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final tonight in Portland. 20 year

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old has 15 points in 14 postseason

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the opportunity to compete for the Memorial

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Game two of the series goes tomorrow

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night so we'll have lots to report

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Adam Henrik. My guess

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Dr. Demko remains out lower

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