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My family who excommunicated me

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suddenly contacted me. What should

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I do? This comes from

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C-Lengtheness6278 and they say, Please

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don't bash my grammar. English isn't my first language and

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I'm still learning. Aren't we all? When

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I, 26 female, was 2, my

0:42

parents had another child who we shall call

0:44

Emma. Emma is smart, disciplined,

0:46

and a very kind person. She

0:48

is my family's favorite. Ouch.

0:50

I also love the another child, kind of

0:52

like a subtle dis instead

0:54

of sister. Ha! Had

0:57

another child, yet another sister. That's a

0:59

good catch, bro. Wow, that's a good

1:01

catch. I come from a very rich

1:03

and known family in China. We have

1:06

several company and properties, so that's why

1:08

everything she wants is always given, while

1:10

I had to do the extra chores

1:12

just to get allowance. Wow. So they're

1:14

rich and OP is still getting like,

1:16

you know, still has to like wash

1:19

the floors. Crumbs. That his

1:21

sister walks on. No,

1:23

she's hoverboarding over it. Oh, that her sister.

1:25

Sorry, her sister. Her sister. Yeah. That her

1:27

sister walks on. Yeah. Like,

1:30

it's like with those curlers, you know, when you're

1:32

like, like when they curl the thing and they

1:34

have the sweepers right behind him. Yeah, exactly. He's

1:37

sweeping right behind the, or she's sweeping right

1:39

behind the ground she walks on. Love that,

1:42

and actually. When I was 14, I

1:44

was given a red pocket

1:46

for Chinese New Year. Emma

1:49

also got one. When we opened it, Emma

1:51

received a bunch of red bills. If I

1:53

remember correctly, she got 12 red

1:56

bills signifying they want her to have a

1:58

prosperous new year and hope. That

2:00

money will never be a problem for

2:02

her. While I. Only. Got

2:04

six read bills me I cried say

2:06

it's unfair as punishment for my tantrums.

2:09

My parents took my red pocket and

2:11

told me to go to my room.

2:13

I remember being comforted by Emma and

2:15

she even offered to split in half,

2:17

but I declined and told her to

2:20

leave. Of low sweet yes.

2:22

Ever saw the A toss? We are

2:24

Now it's the parents that are the

2:26

issue here. If it's a classic case

2:28

of like the parents favoring one shot

2:31

chopped death as stata parents are favorite,

2:33

One child actually makes the other child

2:35

resent that child at the parents hundred

2:37

percent. It's. Been that way

2:39

since every Chinese New Year Emma always

2:42

receive twelve items such as gold and

2:44

money and even receiving blessings and praises

2:46

from the elders while I the eldest

2:49

always got a smaller amount and as

2:51

I grow older I received a smaller

2:53

and smaller amount due to their excuse

2:56

the I was getting old inflation stuff

2:58

out here, an outsize only getting like

3:00

one goal. Of

3:02

a Circle. A scoop of essays Ways

3:04

still years ago for the Chinese New

3:06

Year, my family went all out for.

3:08

Chinese a year and even went

3:10

as far as to give all

3:13

the employees a red pocket that

3:15

was very sick when my grandfather

3:17

started giving every grandchild the red

3:19

pocket, every one. But. My

3:21

sister. Got. One. Everyone.

3:23

But my sister so in this

3:26

tables have to her maybe it

3:28

was suspicious by care. My grandfather

3:30

called for Emma and told her

3:32

to take this and he handed

3:34

her an envelope and when she

3:37

read. The. Contents of the

3:39

envelope she started celebrating. Turns

3:41

out since just received a

3:43

letter full of read pocket

3:45

notes on not the more

3:48

money know she receive way

3:50

more. Turns out she received

3:52

twelve. Percent. of

3:54

one of the companies my

3:56

family and whoa twelve percent

3:59

and put. In context, if is

4:01

is a wealthy family, if a company is

4:03

worth even a few million bucks, you're going

4:05

twelve percent of of of a few million.

4:07

Yeah, you had a few. Really a nice

4:10

to see. I behavior to leave our New

4:12

Years. This view of business. And

4:16

I were a couple hundred thousand

4:19

dollar company ended up real old

4:21

rich white man's on over her

4:23

hip is outdated feel vision a

4:25

monopoly man assistance the past see

4:28

who have the monopoly? Mr. Clinton.

4:31

Oh God yeah I mean but like. Most.

4:34

Likely it is a few million dollars

4:36

based on the wealth of this than

4:38

two percent or really quick do we

4:40

do. What do we think of this

4:42

situation So far there's much more to

4:44

the stories, but so far breaking it

4:46

down, do you think Opie is being

4:48

treated unfairly by. Their sister.

4:51

Getting. Twelve percent of the company

4:53

and Opie getting nothing even though hope

4:55

she's the eldest child, which I believe

4:57

in a lot of cultures China included

5:00

means that you are doing favorite typically

5:02

favorite off. It. Of except maybe in

5:04

the case like this is that you know

5:06

traditional general the south but except in the

5:08

case with the first born boys but they're

5:10

both the girls. Yeah so that's where it

5:12

doesn't make sense to me to. Be

5:15

I question is. What

5:17

year was Opie board and vs her sister

5:19

or with her sister? Like the year the

5:21

dragon or yeah I'm a dragon. Nice.

5:24

Did so A mole rat? I don't know what I

5:26

am. I could be totally wrong. You bring the

5:28

same you. Know. Like. Sixty Six

5:31

And Ninety Ninety Seven. Day. On.

5:35

Saw a but okay so and are

5:38

you specifically asking? Ah? is the sister

5:40

being unfair or is like. The.

5:42

Dowd you the elders of a family

5:45

thing and hope he is being treated

5:47

unfairly. Yes, absolutely. I mean just that.

5:49

Like pure dollars and cents. she's

5:51

getting by twelve percent of his company

5:53

a lot more like money gold other

5:56

gifts like pound for pound dollar for

5:58

dollar the sister is getting more. She

6:00

is being treated unfairly. Yeah, and I

6:02

guess like, I guess the

6:04

family is like, oh, she is just better

6:07

in every way. And that's why she's getting

6:09

it. Bang! That's tough. You're

6:12

an ox. Oh, I'm an ox. Go! Am

6:14

I a rat? Yeah. Woo!

6:18

So you're a sexy rat. Really? Look

6:20

at that rat. It's so cute. It

6:22

is cute. No, it's sexy. Like, I would rather

6:24

it be a mouse. Like,

6:26

at least a mouse is cute. It looks,

6:28

that looks like a cute little mouse. Who

6:30

killed the most people in the world?

6:33

Rats with bubonic plagues. That's true. That's

6:36

you, buddy. I don't want to kill people. That's you.

6:38

But you did. Aw. For context, in

6:40

order for me to receive extra money for

6:43

my school, I started working at the company.

6:45

I learned everything that I needed to learn.

6:47

I started projects that benefited the company. I

6:49

did everything to boost the sales, yet all

6:51

my efforts were not rewarded. Instead,

6:53

they gave Emma the rewards I deserved. I

6:56

saw red that day, and not the good

6:58

kind of red that you get one of

7:00

those pockets. Exactly. I lashed out

7:02

at everyone, questioning why I didn't receive the

7:04

shares, that it was not fair, and Emma

7:07

didn't deserve the shares. All right,

7:10

to OP's credit, I think this is bad, right? Yeah.

7:13

Like, super mean. Yeah. But it's

7:15

like, Papa, I want the company. My

7:17

sister doesn't deserve it. It does. It

7:20

is me, Papa. It, like, sounds bad. It

7:22

sounds bad. But in actuality, like, and to

7:24

the best of our knowledge, maybe the sister

7:27

doesn't work there at all. It sounds like

7:29

OP has been there, putting in the

7:31

work. Yeah. It's like if they gave

7:33

me the rights to the sawmill, and

7:35

didn't give my brother anything. Yeah, that would

7:37

be, no, no, it would be like, it would

7:40

be like giving your younger brother the rights

7:42

to the sawmill, and you nothing.

7:44

But, and me working at the sawmill? Yeah,

7:46

you were working, dude. It would be like

7:48

you working at the sawmill for as long

7:50

as you did, and then your kid brothers

7:52

getting, not even Kate, your kid

7:54

brothers getting the sawmill. Oh, dude, the kid brothers?

7:57

And you'd get nothing. That

7:59

would suck. Right? Not

8:01

the kid brothers. Not the kid brothers. Yeah.

8:04

Kid brother. Uncle dad? The

8:06

kid dad? My

8:10

emotional outburst was met with criticism.

8:13

My father got up and

8:15

slapped me. Oh my

8:17

god! Told me I was an

8:20

ungrateful child and screamed at me

8:22

to get out of his house.

8:25

Jesus! What if, conspiracy theory,

8:27

what if it was like, alright. Emma,

8:30

you're getting 12%, and OP,

8:32

all your hard work, you're getting 20. But

8:35

OP didn't let them finish. That's true.

8:37

No. No? No.

8:40

I have a conspiracy on top of your jersey. Yeah, yeah, throw it on top of me. What

8:43

if OP is

8:45

in a fair baby? And

8:48

the dad said, I will

8:50

raise her, however, I am,

8:53

you know, this, the real

8:55

daughter, and

8:58

I'm not going to give her any special treatment.

9:00

And that was the deal. That is such

9:02

a good conspiracy theory. I'm on board. I

9:05

think that's real. I'm with that. Why? It

9:08

goes against all other logic. Exactly. Because

9:11

in most cultures, firstborn, favoring the firstborn,

9:14

or simply just getting the company. That's

9:16

like a classic thing to do for

9:18

the firstborn. Yeah,

9:20

I'm kind of on board. But I see you

9:22

in the comments if you think that's

9:24

what's happening. Also, by the way, Riley, I

9:27

love this. Yeah, me too. I love it. I

9:29

haven't seen your face in a while. I know. It's

9:31

been, it makes me very happy to be like, like, like

9:33

when you're saying something about.

9:36

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he screamed to get out of my house

11:11

or he screamed to get out of his house as

11:14

he does not want an ungrateful child to stay

11:16

at his house anymore. So I left,

11:18

I didn't even pack, I just left and

11:21

drove off. So two years passed and I

11:23

moved to another country. I didn't contact any

11:25

of them, nor did they contact me two

11:27

years. I imagine you leaving your family

11:30

doesn't even say it will work. I didn't bother

11:32

to find out what happened after I left. All

11:34

I know is they basically disowned me. It

11:37

was ridiculous to disown me just because I

11:39

lashed out at them. Which is

11:41

like, even if you lash out, like

11:44

if a kid lashes out at their parents, you don't just

11:46

own. No, not at all. Like

11:49

it's just like, this is unfair. And then

11:52

leaves, like yes, maybe someone

11:54

could see that as childish. Yeah, but

11:57

you don't disown over that. Crime doesn't fit

11:59

the punishment. No. In this slide

12:01

it's super egregious. No. Super egregious.

12:03

No. Well, on February

12:05

2nd, my father emailed me asking

12:07

for my attendance at Chinese New Year at

12:10

their house. When I read the email, I

12:12

cried. But

12:15

not for the reason you think. There

12:17

was nothing else. Just asking for my attendance, not

12:19

even telling me they were sorry. I

12:21

had a mental breakdown that day and it even took

12:23

two days leave at the company I currently work for.

12:26

I didn't respond and now three weeks later

12:28

I received another email asking me to visit

12:30

China to spend time with them. Even

12:33

offering me to pay for my tickets and

12:36

allowance. I'm hesitant to reply. I want to

12:38

go back to China and spend time with

12:40

my Gong Gong. I

12:42

guess that's like grandma? Maybe. Gong

12:45

Gong. That's kind of cool. Gong Gong. I

12:47

love that. Should I go back?

12:49

So, should I go back? And there are

12:51

some edits and

12:53

a thick update. This

12:55

story is far from over. There's

12:58

a lot of juicy twists and turns. There's a lot

13:00

of juicy twists and turns. But

13:02

before we get into the

13:04

relevant edits, the relevant comments and

13:07

the juicy thick update, should OP

13:09

go back? So, we've gotten two

13:11

emails now. There has

13:13

been no admission of

13:15

any kind of wrongdoing on OP's.

13:18

Yeah, this is really hard. I

13:20

kind of don't blame OP. I

13:22

think there's been... We

13:24

kind of got a highlight reel of

13:27

the history of their interactions. But it

13:29

sounds to me like OP

13:31

has just been treated terrible their whole life. Do we know how old

13:34

they are right now? I

13:36

mean 26 years of being treated so

13:39

unfairly and then this ultimate moment of

13:41

your own dad slapping you in the

13:43

face, telling you to get out that

13:45

you're disowned. I

13:47

could totally see OP wanting

13:49

to go no contact with them or low

13:51

contact or no contact with them. And

13:54

to be clear, Emma is 24. This

13:57

is Emma 24. So, she could be Chinese here because I'm...

14:00

like 23 so it could be

14:02

the Chinese year thing oh here wait really quick

14:04

24 if she

14:07

was born 2000 like you two could

14:09

be born in the same year I think

14:11

I will I think we'll get some more

14:13

information on that I see what what your

14:15

conspiracy theory is is she was born in

14:17

the year of the dragon which

14:19

is why she's getting all the special preferential

14:21

treatment we don't know whether what year she's

14:23

born yeah

14:26

I I think you always ask

14:28

me like what would I do I

14:30

think I would go back

14:33

however I really don't blame

14:36

OP for not yeah I think they've

14:38

shown their character her reaction to the

14:40

email having a mental breakdown yeah yeah

14:42

no that's another thing to consider well

14:46

I Riley is completely right because

14:48

like I can only imagine

14:50

go going into this

14:52

Chinese New Year is going to be

14:55

emotionally tumultuous yeah like if an

14:57

email is having her go

14:59

into a mental breakdown imagine what

15:01

confronting seeing them seeing them and

15:04

I from everything that we've seen they're not

15:06

gonna treat her with respect

15:09

yeah you know they're not

15:11

gonna say sorry so maybe

15:13

you write back and you

15:15

break down everything like this

15:17

is how you've treated me the

15:20

only way I would even begin to

15:22

can begin to consider coming back is

15:24

if you gave me a full apology

15:27

and you promised me like all this stuff

15:29

then if I feel

15:31

you are having a true apology

15:33

that is sincere and will actually

15:35

help mend our relationship I will

15:37

consider coming back I think there

15:39

needs to be a like facetime

15:42

Skype conversation yeah face-to-face

15:45

over online yeah face-to-face on

15:47

the interweb yeah before you go over

15:49

totally the air needs to be cleared

15:52

yes thousand I think the apology should

15:54

happen before you even

15:56

go over absolutely absolutely

15:58

but Again, this is not

16:00

where the story ends. There's a lot of juice to

16:03

squeeze. I don't know if I'm ready, Sam. There's a

16:05

lot of juice. This is a really interesting story. Yeah,

16:07

it is. We're getting a lot of interesting cultural information.

16:10

My family is very strict, so my emotional

16:12

outburst was seen as a defiance. One of

16:14

the questions from the commenters, how do you

16:17

know that they hated you? Opie responds, my

16:19

father fired me after I left and banned

16:21

me from stepping foot at the mansion. Damn,

16:24

they're rich, rich. And the companies we

16:26

owned. I was also not allowed to

16:29

visit any properties. Damn, they rich, rich.

16:31

And they banned, banned. And they banned, banned.

16:34

Opie did not decide. Yeah, they can't step

16:36

foot in the mansion or any of the

16:38

companies. That's basically everywhere. I

16:40

would be like, where does Opie

16:42

even go? You want me to fly back? They

16:45

left China. Yeah. Or

16:47

yeah, I think this is before. This is before

16:49

when they initially banned. My mother told her friends

16:51

that she wished she never gave birth to such

16:53

a defiant child. I cried at her

16:56

words because how could a mother wish

16:58

her child did not exist? My

17:00

brother blocked me on his

17:02

social media account, but I saw his

17:04

final post before blocking me and it

17:06

said, do not contact my name. She is

17:09

not our family anymore. We have no more

17:11

ties with her. Posted about

17:13

that. Essentially all of their

17:15

mutual friends and family to ostracize her.

17:17

Emma was also mad because she thinks

17:19

I looked down at her. My aunts

17:21

and uncles and cousins decided to not

17:23

talk to me. So basically I was

17:27

completely excommunicated. And

17:30

there is a little minor update before we get

17:32

into the big update. I responded to the email

17:34

and sent them the following question and

17:37

message. Why did you contact me?

17:39

What is your purpose for contacting? How

17:41

are you and the family? That's all

17:43

I asked. I will give an update

17:45

if they contact me again. We

17:48

have another edit with a little mini update.

17:51

My father responded to my email saying he

17:53

contacted me because he missed me and he

17:55

was apologetic for how he treated me and

17:57

wanted to reconcile. Well, I said,

18:00

sent another email with a link to a video

18:02

call and told them to call me at 2pm

18:04

Chinese time. In the

18:06

call were my mother, father,

18:09

brother, Emma, and my

18:11

grandparents from the paternal side.

18:14

We gave each other basic greetings and talked about what was

18:16

happening in China in my life here. But

18:18

I got tired of small talk so I started asking

18:21

why my efforts were never rewarded and why they were

18:23

always strict with me. I got an answer, in

18:25

our culture, being born

18:28

in the year of the dragon was

18:30

a lucky thing. It

18:41

means you will be blessed and always

18:43

dominate whatever field you work in. Emma

18:49

was born in the year 2000 so

18:51

that's why my paternal family saw

18:53

it as an auspicious blessing and

18:55

decided Emma should be around the

18:57

company more as she may bring

19:00

more blessings. It basically explained

19:02

why she always receives 12 items

19:05

while I only get what they

19:07

give me. 12 because the

19:09

year is like every 12 years it recites.

19:12

Also just saying since Riley came

19:14

on, we've been blessed yo. We

19:18

are blessed with Riley's dragon

19:20

presence. I never fully

19:22

hated Emma but I admit there is

19:25

a feeling that will sometimes arise when

19:27

I feel that they prioritize her over

19:29

me. As for me, it was

19:31

not planned back then. My parents only wanted a

19:33

single child, a boy. I was born 3 years

19:35

after my brother and although they cared for me,

19:37

my parents had a hard time loving me as

19:40

they saw me as the extra child. I asked

19:42

them why they had Emma and they answered that

19:44

Emma was going to bring blessings to her family.

19:47

I was the only baby in the year of

19:49

the dragon and I broke down and screamed that

19:51

it was not fair that I was their child

19:53

too. A

19:56

billion percent! This story

19:58

is about to get even juicier. But you

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you. My mother and father broke down, saying they

20:12

were sorry and if they could turn back time,

20:14

they would love me more. They

20:16

said it broke their hearts to see one

20:19

of their children grow without them overseeing my

20:21

progress. They regretted not being at

20:23

my piano recital and not being there

20:25

when I graduated from high school. I

20:27

cried saying it's not fair that I

20:29

didn't get a happy childhood and basically

20:31

at that point everyone started crying. I

20:34

asked why they did not reward my efforts

20:36

at the company and my grandfather admitted that

20:38

his views were outdated and he did not

20:40

want me to get any position at the

20:42

company but he apologized saying he broke my

20:44

heart with his actions and told me if

20:46

I moved back, they would give me the

20:48

position of director. I know what

20:50

you're thinking, the company is going downhill, that's why they

20:52

want me back but nope, the company is still strong

20:55

and provides a stable income. The

20:57

call lasted for one hour and basically we

20:59

talked about the family, how my life here

21:01

is and even that I went to a

21:03

Taylor Swift concert at Australia, my parents

21:05

were happy that I was

21:07

happy so they offered to buy me four

21:09

tickets at a Taylor concert in Singapore. That's

21:12

a big one. Singapore is a big one

21:14

because it's adorable. Four tickets. That's

21:16

crazy. Do you know how expensive that is? I mean

21:18

that's got to be 15. 15

21:20

each? 15k a seat. Yeah. Can

21:23

you look that up Riley? Yeah. I'm

21:26

putting money on it. Check your BT. I

21:28

think it could even be more. Yeah.

21:31

For the VIP. Look up Taylor Swift. What

21:34

did Taylor Swift concerts

21:37

in Singapore cost for

21:39

four tickets? Was it Singapore or Japan?

21:41

They were offering the Singapore ones. 1800 I

21:44

think. I mean still

21:46

expensive. Tickets

21:49

start around 1600 and go up to 8300. There you

21:51

go. Per ticket. This

21:53

is, did they offer two floor tickets

21:55

for OP? The most expensive ticket

21:58

was 95k. Wow. I guess

22:00

too, yeah. Wow. My

22:02

mom told me that Gong Gong misses me and to

22:04

come visit him in Shanghai. She even

22:06

told me she'd pay for my tickets and hotel

22:08

just to visit them. I accepted the

22:10

offer. Oh! I know. How

22:13

could I just forgive them like that? But honestly,

22:15

I miss my family. Right. Especially

22:17

Gong Gong. So I'll be flying back at the end

22:19

of February, so I'll give an

22:22

update once I get back. Wow. And

22:25

there is an update. April 10th, 2024.

22:28

Oh! Recent. Recent.

22:30

Mere days ago. Recent.

22:33

But before we get into that update, I

22:35

do have some relevant comments, but I would love to

22:37

know in the comments, how do you think it's gonna

22:39

go when she goes back to China? And I wonder

22:41

what do you all think? What's your

22:43

predictions? I

22:46

mean, I am definitely feeling

22:48

that the family's on the right track

22:51

and if they continue this, like in

22:53

this lane, that it could be great.

22:55

However, I am skeptical.

22:59

Also, what made the change?

23:01

Where did this change come from? Right? I

23:04

mean, to me, there's almost no context to it. I

23:07

think it's extremely important to know what

23:09

the reason for the change is. I

23:11

think it's extremely important. Because is this

23:14

change coming out of a need?

23:18

A scarcity mindset. Yeah, is

23:21

it coming out of a scarcity mindset or

23:23

an actual desire to reconnect? Is it coming

23:25

from, oh, Emma actually doesn't wanna

23:27

run the company, so we need

23:29

someone to step in, and that's why we want you

23:31

back? Or is it coming from,

23:33

we realize what we did is actually

23:35

wrong? And how after

23:38

two years did they finally realize it?

23:40

What clicked? I wanna know what the

23:42

journey was. Yeah, and I really wanna

23:44

know what Emma thinks about this because

23:46

the grandfather, this was a very

23:49

old traditional mindset, how

23:51

does Emma feel like, oh, you only favored

23:53

me because the year I was born in? Also,

23:56

it was a unanimous decision

23:58

of the family. family to

24:01

excommunicate OP and to

24:04

bring her back because so most people

24:06

are on the call what's the deal

24:08

what's the deal what's the deal they

24:11

know what you man this is because they don't live

24:13

in a democracy what are you talking about every

24:15

decision in China is unanimous yeah

24:17

cuz one person says so and everyone has

24:19

to follow it yeah so they're all about

24:22

decision it's a grandpa and then like

24:25

oh yeah what did you say grandpa oh

24:27

I wonder if it is like the patriarch

24:29

of the family is making all the calls

24:31

like the calls yeah is Gong Gong the

24:33

evil mastermind puppeteer dude going the string bro

24:35

I think he could go on the boss

24:40

boss yeah I mean Gong Gong

24:43

is like gone gone and then they're out

24:45

of there or back well

24:50

let's see what actually happened before we

24:52

get into this juicy thick update that

24:55

happened recently yep let's get into

24:57

some of the top comments talk about present

24:59

background V6 says I'm sorry that you've been

25:01

treated this way clearly you deserve better and

25:04

much better from the family I'd have guessed

25:06

that they want something from you that only

25:08

you can provide related to finances medical health

25:11

and perhaps something else these people have already shown

25:13

you who they are nothing has changed if they

25:15

want to see you then they can come to

25:17

visit or agree to a neutral location if you're

25:20

curious but want to protect yourself suggest a virtual

25:22

meetup they'll make it happen if they want it

25:24

badly enough yeah is there something that maybe they're

25:26

trying to trap her in China you

25:29

know is there something weird

25:31

yeah I thought it could be some

25:33

fishy or okay this is a big

25:36

conspiracy theory and how I met your

25:38

mother Barney Stinson has like this job

25:40

and his job is basically to sign

25:42

all the papers of like the illegal

25:44

doings of this company and

25:46

essentially be the fall guy if the company

25:49

is like like illegal actions

25:51

ever catch up to it are

25:53

they trying to put her in

25:55

place so she is

25:58

taking responsibility for any shift

26:01

behavior that the company has engaged

26:03

in. Is this like a fall

26:05

guy? I feel like it could

26:08

have something to do with the

26:10

company and they need

26:12

OP to be the fall

26:14

person, the worker, be something

26:16

along those lines. They need

26:18

to essentially use OP for

26:20

something for the family's benefit. Yeah, that

26:23

could definitely be okay. I can't imagine OP is not being

26:25

used. I also think, I

26:27

just think it's risky to go back to

26:29

China. Yeah. Without understanding fully everything. Yeah, something

26:31

that just doesn't feel right. We

26:33

don't know all the information. But let's get back to reality

26:36

and get to this update after one more

26:38

comment. Old Meal says, do not go back.

26:40

They want something for you. You have moved

26:42

on from that life, so stay moved for

26:44

your own sake. And Queen Legolas

26:46

says, don't go back. They'll probably want something from

26:48

you. Possibly an organ. That's

26:51

crazy. True. Emma can't have

26:53

kids and wants you to be a surrogate. Someone

26:55

is ill and they need you to be a

26:57

living maid. It could be anything. You block them

26:59

all. None of them deserve you. Don't tell them

27:01

where you are, what you do, nothing. Could be

27:04

someone is terminally ill and they

27:06

expect you to forgive them and then

27:08

will emotionally blackmail you. Oh

27:10

my gosh, I wanna know what's happening. And

27:12

there is an update. Oh my gosh. I didn't

27:14

even think about the organ thing. Yeah, gosh. The

27:16

black market organ trade in China is like wow.

27:19

Big. Money's up. Money's

27:21

up, dude. Dude, you can

27:23

sell a kidney for like. And you get somebody you

27:25

have. Two. Two. And

27:28

then three. Extra 150K could go a

27:30

long ways. That's true. We got

27:32

healthy. We're pretty healthy boys. We're healthy boys? We

27:34

could do it. Riley doesn't drink, his kidneys are

27:36

great. Dude, that's 100K. Yeah.

27:39

That's a 100K kidney right now. Right there. 100K

27:42

kidney. Also, I just realized we're talking about

27:44

kidneys, not livers. Yeah,

27:46

I know. I know. Wait, how many

27:48

kidneys do we have? Wait, we could snip her off her kidney.

27:50

We still have two kidneys. Well, I thought we could

27:52

like cut off a little bit of the kidney, give it to someone. No

27:55

livers, that's what you do with livers. You can do it with livers. You

27:58

might be able to do with kidneys too. No, we have two kidneys. We

28:00

have two kidneys, but I think you can you cut off half

28:02

a kidney? Oh, but you've been about the alcohol thing with kidney

28:06

Doesn't have an effect. I actually don't know

28:09

let's go the comments. We're not doctor,

28:11

but we are reddit story readers This

28:15

update do our thing. Hello everyone. Thank

28:17

you for patiently waiting for an update

28:19

here is what happened I

28:21

met with my family at a hotel in Guangzhou

28:24

And we had a heartfelt talk I

28:27

tried not to speak with my parents and

28:29

siblings But they kept asking me things about

28:31

my life abroad and what I work at

28:33

my aunt may have seen my discomfort So

28:35

she told them to let me eat first

28:37

I admit it was quite awkward since to

28:39

me the pain of rejection and betrayal is

28:41

still fresh Well when we were done

28:44

eating we started having a conversation my aunt encouraged

28:46

me to speak my heart out and tell me

28:48

all the Wrongdoings that were done to me after

28:50

I was done I was tearing

28:52

up and luckily we were in a private

28:54

room So I cried my heart out that

28:56

night and my cousins comforted me and fed

28:59

me Mmm-hmm yummy

29:01

the same cousins that ex

29:03

communicated you yeah ops the

29:06

night ended with all of us crying Overall

29:08

we had a slight reconciliation Emphasis

29:11

on slight they asked if I

29:13

wanted to go back home But I declined saying I

29:15

had a plane to catch up to they were shocked

29:18

thinking I'm already going back abroad But

29:20

I said I was going to visit Gong Gong

29:22

my mother told me to postpone the flight so

29:24

our entire family could visit Gong Gong I agreed

29:26

so I canceled my flight I booked a hotel

29:28

as I didn't want to be back in the

29:30

place where I was humiliated and betrayed I spent

29:32

my remaining time with Gong Gong which was two

29:35

weeks But during our tea he

29:37

gave me a folder and told me

29:39

to open it and I got the

29:41

surprise of my life What do you think

29:43

the surprises Riley? What do you think? Probably

29:46

something to do with the company stuff like

29:48

20 or given Emma share in the

29:50

share It was a legal

29:53

document that contains Half

29:56

of the company my Gong Gong owned he

29:58

told me that life keeps screwing me

30:00

over. It's not accurate but it's what I

30:02

interpreted as. He told me I deserve all

30:04

the success I achieved and he is giving

30:06

me full control over

30:09

the company he owns once

30:11

he passes or when I'm

30:13

ready. I cried and my

30:15

family was happy for me

30:17

and overall I finally felt

30:19

that I needed and appreciated.

30:21

Wow. Anyways

30:24

the entire trip was too long for me to

30:26

share everything that happened so I'm only writing the

30:28

important events thank you all for your support and

30:30

kind messages it helped to see the bigger picture

30:32

and guide me to the right path and there

30:34

are some final relevant comments

30:37

and some edits but really

30:40

quick what do we

30:42

think about Gong Gong giving OP

30:44

full control over this company? Like

30:47

I'm happy that OP is giving

30:50

these things and hearing these affirmations

30:52

like you deserve everything from your

30:54

hard work. I'm still

30:56

like why? What's that? What's

30:59

changed? What's changed? What's changed? That's what I

31:02

want to know because like what

31:04

if OP is the fall guy? Yeah.

31:07

Like you give control of

31:10

a company so that OP can

31:12

be put in jail for the company's

31:14

misdeeds. Yeah. That's what I think is

31:16

gonna happen. They're like they're like about

31:18

to be sued by whatever like the

31:20

equivalent of the SEC. Forget sued. Forget

31:22

sued. Frickin like Xi Jinping

31:24

was it like he did what? Xi

31:27

Jinping just imprisoned Jack Ma. Yeah. Jack

31:29

Ma was it seen for Jack Ma is like

31:32

one of the richest people in China was abducted

31:34

and it's not seen for months because he got

31:36

too powerful and Xi Jinping wanted to just do

31:39

like a show of force. Yeah. Apparently. Apparently. Like

31:43

China they'll just imprison you. Wow.

31:45

Yeah. The smoke might be

31:47

coming for OP and they're like oh

31:49

well now that you are like legally

31:52

the front face. Yeah. Take the smoke.

31:56

That's what I think. But you know it'd be

31:58

so crazy it would be even more sinister. and

32:00

cruel given that they were all like comforting her like

32:02

I don't think it said they were crying with her

32:04

but like they were they were crying with her like

32:07

they would have to kind of like fake that

32:09

in a way to get

32:12

her to do this which is

32:14

even more freaking evil yeah

32:16

and like would they actually do that um I'm

32:19

not saying your theory is wrong but it would

32:21

make them that they are actually sad about it

32:23

but they're like hey this is what we need

32:25

to do like what if they are sad they

32:27

are they're crying because over throwing her sister under

32:29

the bus again they feel guilty but they're doing

32:32

it anyway they're doing it anyway well

32:34

I want to know in the comments what y'all

32:36

think and also if you know anyone in like

32:39

a traditional family like this like how does it

32:41

play out but there are some edits where we

32:43

get a little bit more context so edit hello

32:45

everyone thank you for your comments but I would

32:47

like to clarify one thing my Gong Gong is

32:50

the only one who supported me these past two

32:52

years so I she so I assure you there's

32:54

nothing suspicious with his actions that's

32:56

a little bit better so Gong Gong maybe

32:58

isn't pulling the strings so Gong Gong didn't

33:00

tell her to leave and banish no I

33:03

it seems like Gong Gong was supporting

33:06

her throughout this entire time she was separated

33:08

from the family Wow OP

33:10

on the Taylor Swift tickets the Taylor

33:12

Swift tickets they were offering in Singapore

33:14

which I did not attend and yes

33:16

my paternal side has multiple homes however

33:19

my paternal grandparents live in Guangzhou while

33:21

my maternal family lives in Shanghai and

33:23

top comments BHV and Nits says I

33:25

smell the rats there is

33:27

something going on with the business or company that

33:29

you are not aware of I cannot believe that

33:31

in just two years your whole family had a

33:33

change of heart after going to the extent of

33:35

disowning you nah I

33:37

think you need to find out what is

33:40

actually happening in your company what has prompted them

33:42

to give you ownership of half the company to

33:44

me it seems like a trap which is what

33:46

we've been saying trick delivery 4 6 0

33:48

9 has a final comment I am worried about you either

33:51

the family knows you are inheriting half

33:53

flesh all the business and that's why

33:55

they're being nice all of a sudden

33:57

or worse you are being given a

33:59

bad business with a lot of

34:01

debts. Check in with a lawyer or

34:04

private investigator. Take everything they say with

34:06

a grain of salt." I

34:08

would agree. Tread lightly, OP. She

34:11

has another subreddit and asked

34:13

a lawyer or legal advice, can I hire

34:15

a lawyer to represent me in China if

34:17

I'm currently living in another country? Oh.

34:20

So like their username, they're like, they

34:22

just posted about that. Wow. When did

34:24

they post? Eight

34:26

days ago. This is like happening in real time.

34:28

Yeah. Did OP respond to any of those? Um,

34:32

I think no. You could look at

34:34

OP responded. You could filter by OP responded, I

34:36

believe. If you look at like newest. Yeah, I'm

34:38

looking at it right now. She

34:41

has another post. Am I the ale for not giving

34:43

up my spot in a Taylor Swift concert? But

34:47

no, she didn't, she hasn't responded to any of

34:49

the legal stuff yet. It seems like

34:51

we might be able to get an update on this soon. I

34:54

would be excited. This was, this is an

34:56

incredible story. Yeah. I think what I like

34:58

about this is we read a lot of

35:00

stories from like America on like family dynamics.

35:02

And I think this is giving like an

35:04

insight one to a family that is uber

35:07

wealthy. And so the dynamics of familial relationships

35:10

change when a lot of money and power

35:12

is involved. And two, we're looking at what

35:14

it looks like to be imbued

35:17

with a lot of cultural

35:19

restriction and a lot of

35:22

like heritage and history

35:24

and honor and all

35:26

of these things that can make

35:28

familial dynamics stressed and complex. And

35:30

like, OP is caught in the middle

35:33

of one of these things. And it's

35:35

kind of, I mean, sad for OP,

35:37

but incredibly interesting to, to the voyeur

35:40

into. And is this the end

35:42

of the story so far? Oh my. So

35:47

we don't know, is OP going to

35:49

accept? Is OP going to go to

35:51

China and go back and take over

35:53

the company? There's so much that is

35:55

left up in the air. I've never

35:58

felt a seemingly on

36:00

the surface, happy ending, and

36:02

been so uncertain. Yeah. My

36:05

thing, though, she's doing good for herself.

36:07

She was able to get tickets to

36:10

a Taylor Swift concert in Australia at

36:12

26. Yeah,

36:14

yeah, she's probably, I mean, she's wealthy.

36:16

Yeah, she probably, whatever her position was

36:18

at the company, she's probably making bank,

36:20

doing it for whatever company, wherever she's

36:22

at right now. Also, I have a

36:24

suspicion that when she

36:26

says allowance, it's like

36:30

50K a month. Yeah. It's

36:32

like something ridiculous. Yeah.

36:34

It's like multiple companies, multiple properties,

36:37

well-known family in China. If you're

36:39

a well-known family in China, you

36:42

have money. Yeah. You

36:44

have money. It was that versus like, oh, she's just

36:47

being given it, but they're like, oh, go clean

36:49

your room, and then we'll give it to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

36:51

and it's like, okay, we'll clean your room and then we'll give

36:53

you 50K. Yeah, I'll clean my room for $1,000

36:55

an hour. I

36:59

honestly think that is on the scale of

37:02

the money she's getting. Even as a child? Yeah.

37:05

Dude, okay, okay, story time.

37:08

So I was gonna open up an English

37:10

school in China when I was like in

37:12

junior year of college, and so I taught

37:15

in Hangzhou for a little

37:17

bit, and the kids were

37:19

total little brats, but were given

37:22

everything. The amount of money these kids spent

37:24

in a week, and they were like 12

37:26

and 13, was thousands of dollars, if

37:30

not tens of thousands of dollars, and they're

37:32

like one of the well-known families in China,

37:34

so they're like hanging out with all the

37:37

politicians and the gangsters in China, like had

37:39

a fundraiser with like Yao Ming. So they

37:41

were super centralized, but the amount of money

37:44

that they gave these kids was obscene. And

37:46

it's a case of like, they're not maybe

37:48

not like, well, maybe they are writing out

37:50

a check, but it's just like they just

37:52

have their parents' credit card basically, and they're going

37:55

crazy and buying stuff and all that. Yeah, I

37:57

mean, and like my, I

38:00

had an ex's mom that was the assistant

38:02

to a Saudi Arabian

38:05

prince, and my ex

38:07

would hang out with the prince's daughters, and

38:09

they would go to Rodeo Drive and just

38:11

drop 80k on a purse. And they would

38:13

be like, oh wait, do you want anything?

38:16

Why don't you get something? And

38:18

she was like, she was wealthy. But

38:21

she's like, I don't have 80k to drop on a

38:23

purse right now. So it's

38:25

like, when you get to a certain level of

38:27

wealth, you have just an

38:29

obscene amount of disposable income that

38:33

to the point where you are completely

38:35

blind to the fact

38:37

that people don't have that money. Yeah, absolutely

38:39

insane. Wait, what is

38:41

this backstory you just told us?

38:43

Yeah, actually, that was two of

38:45

the most insane like, okay, sorry

38:48

times of all time. I

38:51

thought you just got this out of your ass, I'm

38:53

like, there's no way he had- No, dude. You

38:57

taught kids like that what?

38:59

And Hangzhou, so when we were teaching,

39:02

we did such a good job that

39:04

they wanted us to move to China

39:06

for five years to open up an

39:08

English school for the Chinese elite, and

39:11

we're going to fund it. But the thing is,

39:13

like when you open up a business in China,

39:15

a Chinese person has to own the majority of

39:17

the company, so you actually don't have control of

39:19

the business. And we were fearful

39:21

that if we open up this school, we

39:23

might make enough, like what is common is

39:27

they like lead foreigners on with like

39:30

a golden carrot, and we'll

39:33

always give you just enough to

39:35

survive, but not enough to

39:37

like leave. But we had like a business

39:39

plan and everything, we were almost

39:41

gonna move to China to start this business.

39:43

Who's we? Me and my ex-girlfriend. Oh my

39:45

gosh. Oh, yeah, because I've

39:47

maybe heard about this once

39:49

or twice very briefly. We

39:52

know most of each other's like back

39:54

stories, but this one I haven't gotten

39:57

like the full download on. Crazy, absolutely.

40:00

Wait, how long ago was this? Wow.

40:03

Absolutely not. How old were you? I

40:06

was 21. Wow. Insane. Absolutely

40:08

not. Yeah. Hum

40:11

Joe is beautiful too. Also, that sounds like the beginning

40:13

of like a great TV show. It's like these two

40:15

kids, kids are like, oh yeah, we'll start this English

40:17

school. And then you end up like with all the...

40:20

Well that's what was so interesting because we were, we were

40:22

thinking like we either wanted to do that or Peace Corps.

40:24

Why are you laughing, Riley? No, how the f*** do

40:26

you have those options at school? Why do

40:28

you have those options at 21? It

40:31

is core or... Everyone

40:33

has the option of doing the Peace Corps. She actually,

40:36

she actually applied to do Peace Corps,

40:39

but COVID messed

40:41

it up. Oh wow. She was going to do

40:43

it. She had been accepted and then COVID canceled.

40:46

Now she has no peace. She has no

40:48

peace. Wow. But look

40:50

at you now five years later. That is like

40:53

such a completely alternate Sam

40:55

timeline. Bro, the Sam. The

40:58

multiple universe. What is it? Multidivisions.

41:01

The multiverse. Yeah, the multiverse

41:03

of Sam becoming the

41:06

teacher in or running this like teaching

41:08

business in China is a

41:10

crazy different timeline. That

41:12

is crazy different. Yeah.

41:14

I was learning Mandarin too. Oh,

41:16

I can imagine. Mandarin? I'm

41:18

not sure what I'm talking about. Leon

41:21

Pichao. What can this man not do?

41:23

Oh my gosh. That probably

41:25

to anyone who actually speaks Mandarin, that

41:28

was probably garbage. You're like, oh, I'm

41:30

speechless. I'm

41:34

so speechless right now. Well

41:37

you know what's the cure for your lack

41:39

of speech? Me speaking

41:41

this next story to your face. Oh,

41:43

let's get it. Am I

41:45

being disrespectful by telling my parents good

41:48

luck with that when they tried to

41:50

ground me? Might be.

41:52

I'm from aggravating bat three fourteen who

41:54

says I live at home while going

41:56

to university. I'm in my final year and I have a

41:58

job lined up after I graduate. My parents

42:00

have been charging me rent since I was

42:02

16 years old What I

42:05

have a small company that makes me

42:07

around 60k a year. Nice and OP.

42:09

We don't know that Opie's

42:12

still 16, but that's

42:15

impressive. I started in high school Wow,

42:18

it's when it's one of the reasons I graduated

42:20

early from high school and why I got attention

42:22

from recruiters My parents said that

42:24

since I was earning adult money I could

42:26

take in or adult responsibilities. I like that

42:28

fair I like that. It's kind of

42:31

it's kind of fair. Yeah, I

42:33

thought that was fair So I paid I paid

42:35

for all my own stuff starting at age 16

42:37

Wow kind

42:40

of badass You

42:43

would get my Camaro, yeah That

42:47

this feels very John John

42:52

I will say for a crazy Okay,

42:54

it's like quick. Okay. Sorry time for

42:56

me It was very crazy

42:58

going to Silicon Valley at 17 and

43:00

meeting other 17 year olds who had

43:02

raised a million dollars from like Soup

43:05

like billionaires and that

43:07

completely broke my brain. Yeah.

43:09

Yeah crazy stuff Well the guy that I

43:11

was running with the other day like he sold

43:14

his first company for six figures at

43:16

16 in 17

43:19

or something little bit or high Probably

43:21

low still bro still I

43:24

had 10 bucks at 60. I was like Oh

43:31

Man not University. I got a scholarship and their

43:33

rent may charge me was minor 300 bucks a

43:35

month Opie

43:37

is winning Opie is winning

43:40

But I basically considered my room to be

43:42

completely mine after that. I kept it tidy

43:44

I like it that way, but they had

43:46

no say in when I cleaned it Oh,

43:49

I oh, so this is Opie talking about his

43:51

room at their house Still when I did

43:53

my laundry other than not to do it

43:55

at a time when I would disturb the family for example

43:57

at 3 a.m I bought myself

44:00

Food and I ate what I wanted they tried

44:02

to say I was separating myself from the family

44:04

But I saw it more as having my own

44:06

schedule I

44:19

can't even think about hanging out with you. Yeah,

44:22

I got fat facts of here. You do it

44:24

at 16 exactly I got

44:26

a schedule Put

44:28

in my cow, dude Cal

44:31

invite speaking of Cal invite. Sorry Sam. I

44:33

have an okay story. Tell about Sam and

44:36

a calendar invite I'll make it

44:38

quick. Okay. Okay, Sophia asked hey Sam.

44:40

When can we go on a hike? He

44:42

said hmm how does May 1st sound it

44:44

is currently May 18th. He told his no,

44:47

it's April 18. It's April 18

44:49

Okay, sorry, it's April 18. He does this or

44:51

he could hang out with her until May 1st

44:53

going to hike for a morning hike I

44:56

have a thing every morning Here's

44:59

a schedule for family. I Think

45:04

I was so be a everyday we went to

45:06

the heart. We went we went to

45:08

the beach yesterday But

45:11

it was just hilarious. I was like wow, he's probably

45:14

gonna say something may indeed I First

45:17

to be fair. I said April 29th or May 1st Two

45:21

options, okay Yeah,

45:24

I do I said I sent the girl

45:26

that I'm seeing a calendar invite to hang

45:28

out what you think about weird

45:33

Hey, you know, we're weird together buddy. Ah Yeah,

45:35

dude, it's great. It's great. I don't know. I don't

45:38

have to keep track of anything It is a better

45:40

way to live life. I will I will agree to

45:42

that this year for spring break I went to Mexico

45:44

with my friends again just ballin. My parents

45:46

were upset 16 at 16 My

45:50

parents were upset because they were hosie actually

45:52

still 16 he started his business at 16

45:54

Oh, sorry this year we and

45:56

we don't know how old Opie is yet. I would say But

46:00

this was, like he said, once I started

46:02

high school, I gather were a few years

46:04

out, probably, but we're not sure. Probably sub

46:06

20. Yeah, could totally be. My

46:09

parents were upset because they were hosting a

46:11

big Easter family get together. When I got

46:14

back, they said I was behaving badly by

46:16

not being around for a family gathering. I

46:18

said it was my last spring break in

46:20

university, there you go, senior in university, and

46:22

that I was not responsible for their schedule.

46:24

Damn. Dude, that's one way to

46:26

say it. They said I

46:29

was grounded and I laughed, ha! And

46:31

said, good luck with that. I went to my room

46:33

and locked the door. They tried banging

46:36

on it for my attention, but I am done.

46:38

My grandfather came over to talk to me later. He

46:41

is the one who helped me get my company started

46:43

and he is always there for me. He said that

46:45

I was rude to my parents when they were trying

46:47

to be there for me. I asked him how much

46:49

rent he charged my mom when she lived at home.

46:52

He said it was ridiculous to think that he

46:54

would charge his kids rent. I

46:56

told him that I had been paying rent for

46:58

four years. $300 a month. Still

47:01

paying rent. Still

47:04

though, $300 a month. So he is 20 now. Yes.

47:06

Or yeah, 2021, something like that. I mean, all

47:09

right. This is what I actually kind of

47:11

agree with him a little bit. I don't think he is,

47:13

I mean maybe he is being a little bit the a-hole,

47:15

but if you are making that kind

47:18

of money since 16, nobody can tell

47:20

you nothing. Yeah. He

47:23

is like a little cocky, right? Which

47:25

you know, the error of youth. But

47:29

to be fair to him, he is making his

47:32

own money. He is paying for

47:34

rent in the house and

47:36

he has his own business, needs

47:38

his own schedule. I think making

47:40

adult money, having adult responsibilities

47:42

and having adult freedom is

47:45

the third thing. Yes. Yeah.

47:48

It is a tricky thing because it is like obviously

47:50

you want to spend time with your family. This

47:53

is the, I mean. He doesn't want to.

47:55

He doesn't want to. He doesn't want to.

47:58

You are right. I think... He

48:00

might be a but adult freedom. He's an adult.

48:02

He might be a but he's entitled to being

48:04

a he's it He is yes. Yes, every adult

48:06

is entitled to be a yeah

48:08

every every dog. Yes Yeah, every dog is

48:10

entitled to be there's your girl The

48:15

second the parents were like you have to pay rent I

48:17

do think he earned adult freedom so he could he doesn't

48:19

have to Do all great stuff and also he's 20. Yeah

48:23

Man, so he went into the house and I

48:25

heard a fight when he came out He said

48:27

that I needed to treat my parents with more

48:30

respect But since they are my landlords they do

48:32

not have a say over how I spend my

48:34

time that I think is a very Fair

48:36

statement should always treat like

48:39

you should always treat people with respect 100% what like he Can

48:44

be if you want to yeah, they can't like force you

48:46

to do something Yeah, you are

48:48

independent and they think it's still a bad

48:50

thing. Yes, exactly I'm

48:52

avoiding my parents for now and I'm renting

48:54

on Airbnb right now until I graduate Baller

49:00

I took everything that was important to me and

49:02

I left six hundred dollars for the last two

49:04

months. I had claimed on me Wow Classy

49:07

just breaded they keep calling me but I

49:10

am currently getting ready to move for my

49:12

new job I don't have the energy to

49:14

deal with them hung white boy 25 says

49:16

Wow I

49:22

wrote that yeah There's

49:26

only one thing only one lion there

49:29

Riley's only 23 Yeah

49:33

So they tried to ground a grown

49:35

adult who pays their own bills and

49:37

works full-time. Yeah, you're not the a-hole

49:39

by a long shot Why

49:41

don't you just moved out legit don't see

49:43

a reason for you to be there and

49:45

then OP says rent was cheap,

49:48

bro Frugal so so

49:51

baller ladies and gentlemen, I agree with

49:53

that comment. What about what about this comment

49:55

right here? I don't have the energy to deal with them.

49:57

I mean, they give a young money

49:59

right there Yeah, he's a little

50:01

brat. He's a little bit some

50:04

brat vibe. He is being disrespectful and

50:07

And not be kindness to his parents. Yeah

50:11

He is right. You don't like you can't

50:13

control me. Also, I wonder just

50:15

like From a

50:17

practical parenting perspective them

50:19

being like oh you're grounded and like oh,

50:21

no you can't do this Like is that

50:23

really the way you're going to get

50:26

your son like back on the right back?

50:29

You know bro sounds like he's on

50:31

the right track though, but they're like like Financially,

50:34

but I would as a parent. I would

50:36

be worried that like he

50:38

kind of Continues down this

50:40

path and kind of becomes an app. Yeah.

50:43

Yeah Yeah, he definitely is like

50:45

trending towards the Instagram

50:47

Lamborghini asswholeness exactly right and

50:50

like I Do

50:52

I would love I think I secretly do

50:54

what my? children to

50:57

do what I did and like leave home early and do

50:59

all that stuff, but I Don't

51:01

want them Like

51:08

they're getting no inheritance I

51:16

was fed by the streets when I

51:19

was 60 streets provide I Cook

51:22

rat and top Robin You're

51:27

the rat baby, yeah But

51:30

what what what should be the

51:32

parenting? Yeah, it is tricky I mean

51:34

like you yeah, you can't say you're

51:36

grounded Yeah, I think you just I

51:38

think the parenting move is to talk

51:40

to opie as an adult in

51:43

the same way as if one of your Adults

51:47

friends or family members disrespected you

51:49

yeah, you'd be like hey I

51:51

felt disrespected here You are

51:53

an adult now you have adult

51:56

responsibilities, but I want there

51:58

to be respect in this relationship Not

52:00

necessarily just because we're your

52:02

parents, but because we

52:04

are, I think this is how you should

52:06

treat all the people that are important to

52:09

you and in your life. Because if

52:11

you keep acting this way, you may

52:13

be rich, but you're going to be

52:15

really lonely. You know? And like, if

52:17

you want to have a full life,

52:19

it's not just about money, it's about

52:21

the relationships that you have with your

52:23

family and your friends and your loved

52:25

ones. And like, maybe you're not

52:27

going to understand this lesson right now and

52:29

that's okay. But just know that when

52:32

you are ready to have a respectful

52:34

relationship with us, we're going to be

52:36

here. I think I've just developed an

52:38

entirely new fear of

52:40

not having a... Because

52:43

my fear is always like having a

52:45

kid spoiled from like your money, but

52:47

then raising a kid who's spoiled and

52:49

an asshole from their own money. It's

52:51

kind of a dream though. Dude, new

52:54

fear on locks of God. Well, because

52:56

you're going to give them all the

52:58

information they need. Yeah. The dream

53:01

scenario is they become self-sufficient, right? Or

53:04

like they go after it and get

53:06

it themselves. Yeah. The thing I learned from this was

53:09

if I have a kid and they don't clean or

53:11

want to do anything like that, I'll be like, all

53:13

right, you can pay rent. And then you are free

53:15

of not doing any of that stuff. It's kind

53:17

of sick. I think I like that option. I kind

53:20

of like that. Yeah. If you're working doing other stuff.

53:22

Yeah, totally. Yeah. Like you don't have to do chores

53:24

if you're paying. Yeah. What

53:26

did you guys get your first? Fourteen. Fourteen.

53:28

I saw that at the song. Ten.

53:32

Doing firewood. Yeah.

53:34

Like little odd jobs. I

53:37

would go around. We had like an annual

53:40

big neighborhood yard sale and I would

53:42

go around with coffee and donuts. But

53:44

like actual job, I was

53:46

16 working as a day camp

53:48

counselor. Well, 16. Two

53:51

years earlier. Fourteen.

53:53

What? Because we can't

53:55

we can't say I was like, get

53:57

him in trouble. But you're supposed to work

53:59

there at. 16 no it was

54:01

it was okay it was legal to work at 16

54:03

yeah it's legal to work at 16 yeah oh yeah

54:05

that's like a little for before 16 is not legal

54:07

so I worked at 16 I

54:10

think in Florida I knew people legally

54:12

working at Publix at 14 years old

54:14

what a hundred percent yeah maybe at different states

54:16

I think I legal limit I think lower I

54:19

think Florida's crazy oh

54:21

god I've been free no

54:23

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54:25

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