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Am I the a-hole for saying I would not
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care if my partner cheated on me? Dang, this
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comes from pretendpayment9905 who says, not
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an a-hole, but a cuck, but a cuck. Yesterday
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we were hanging out with some friends
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and the topic came to cheating and
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relationships. When I was asked my
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opinion, I told them I would not really
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care if my girlfriend cheated on me. There
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is not a real need to sulk over
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it. It's just a girlfriend and cheating proves
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the point that they are not the one.
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So there's your nuance. Honestly, caught a fire.
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It's the filter, right? Caught a fire. Filter
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yourself out. From my point of view, life
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is too short to get sad about these
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things. In the end, cheating is not even
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your fault. It's just cheaters trying to fill
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the emptiness inside them or cover their insecurities
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through physical or emotional acts with other people.
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I clearly told them I would not even
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need to get over it. In one of
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my previous relationships, I was cheated on and
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they were caught during the act. I
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told them to just have
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fun and left. Wow. My
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man is stoic to the max. That is
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honestly impressive. I don't know if I would
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have that stoicism. I don't think so. Like
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I agree with the philosophy, but just in
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reality, removing your emotions that much is kind
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of really hard. It's honestly sounds like he
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doesn't have any emotions for that person in
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the first place. Mm. Psychopath?
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Maybe, dude. I don't know. This is
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really crazy. Do you really love your girlfriend? I don't
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know. I was taken aback by my
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answer and asked if anything would change if it
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was my wife instead of a girlfriend. And I
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said no. What? Yo,
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dude, this guy is cap. This guy is
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so cap. This is great. I
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would just divorce and we would go
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our separate ways. There's no need to
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prolong things and stay in a broken
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marriage. Maybe he's like a Buddhist or
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something, you know? And he's like, everything
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that can and will happen will happen
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and I am a vessel. He's reached
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such a level of meditation that he's
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just like, I am but a mere
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speck of dust on the
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ethereal flower that is The solar system
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that was beautiful Iraq. So if I'm just
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a piece of dust for why do I
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care if it's other dust bite of go
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in and make it does to so an
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hour know a don't give a shit Swiffer
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But what about with now who? What about
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what Horton hears a who says village that
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was on a.spec What about that Just another
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does backed amongst amongst a million other Doesburg
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galaxies. Why would I get? why would I
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care of someone cheats on me with another.spec
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be oh I care about Well as the
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rest of the story of rice some said
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would I not try marriage counseling first. I
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answered no because there is no reason to
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Marriage counseling should be done before the act
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of cheating instead of after it agreed. If
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cheating spouse has any problems they should communicate
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them with the other partner and try to
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solve it. If they cannot they should divorce
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and cheating is never option. Doing marriage counseling
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after infidelity is like a murderer. Going to
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the murder scene to revive the victim with
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the victim has to do most of the
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work. The past. But
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I love it as he has spilled. Different? Yeah,
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bill yeah i think this dude is
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just a straight the rock to straight
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stone edge of ah yes easter egg
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island is there a guy or easter
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island israel and that easter egg alice
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i'm going with easter egg i'll do
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it wrong words today only guy who
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wisdom and i do not care about
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closer at all i do not care
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about the reason people and especially my
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girlfriend seem shocked by my answers and
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has me amy emotions at all that's
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what i'm wondering this guy's a psychopath
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a fair question it is a fair
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question i do have emotions it's just
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that i do not see and necessary
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to spend my emotional energy on something
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i have no fault on or that
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will hurt me does man gets sad
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literally this dot watches titanic and was
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like down with a good movie his
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grandma died like to go die anyway
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i was as he supposedly supposed to
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die what you bigger rebels not going
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to what is your live wherever you're
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pretty etti and what a zombie grammy
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life is too short to be bothered
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by that girlfriend told me she does
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not see me in the same light
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anymore and thinks that I do
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not value our relationship. She is
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not talking to me now. Am
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I the a-hole and we have some
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relevant comments, but Sam, I think we
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might need to dive into some conspiracy
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theory territory. Conspiracy theory. Okay. So, but
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I see in the comments, if you
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see it before I'm about to say
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it, there you go, Sam,
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do you think that the girlfriend is
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going to leave the relationship? I think
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there is a real possibility. Yeah. So
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she just realized that her partner is
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a psychopath and doesn't have emotions. If
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your boyfriend is a rock, do
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you keep going? I would pause. I would
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pause. Yeah. I would definitely pause and it
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would be like, what would make you sad?
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Do you have the capacity to have that
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emotion? And do I want to be with
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someone who doesn't have that capacity? A hundred
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percent. Feels like a business transaction, almost as
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that way, right? Yeah. The fact that you
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would feel nothing if your partner, who you
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should love, disrespects or lies
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to you, like to say that you would
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feel nothing makes me feel that you felt
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nothing to be in with. So highly possible
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that the girlfriend could leave on our conspiracy
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theory. Where you leave? I
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would pause. I would pause. I would
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pause. It's pause-a-rooney. It's pause-a-rooney. You know,
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pause. Pause. Yeah. Pause. But let's get
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back to reality. Answering OP's question, is
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OP the a-hole? I don't think it's
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an a-hole. Like a psychopath isn't an
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a-hole. They're just a psychopath. Do I
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think OP is a psychopath? Maybe. But a-hole,
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I don't think so. It's just being honest.
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It's kind of like if you lived on
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your own and you're an absolute slob and
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a mess and everything, you're not an a-hole
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because it's just you. But if you have
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a roommate, then you're an a-hole. And I'm
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not even throwing any subs. I would, I
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would, I would say names if I was...
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Yeah. Like if you like would continually just
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break your washing machine, for example, and then
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the whole house can't wash their clothes, then
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you might be an a-hole. Or if you
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like continually cook and you leave your pan in
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the sink and you never, you know, clean it, then
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you might be an a-hole. I'm the Switzerland of the
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field. Those
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are the shots going right by me. I'm catching nothing. I'm
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catching no shrapnel. Riley and I live together by the way,
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and we love each other. You can put the pieces together
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on who's talking about who there. If Riley cheated on me,
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I wouldn't give a shit. Ooh!
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Ooh! I have something to
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tell you. Oh
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no. So, OP, not the A-hole. I don't think
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A-hole. I'm saying not the A-hole. Again, again. I
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don't think the A-hole. But you're in a relationship,
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so is a psychopath an A-hole? Like, in your
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analogy, a psychopath becomes an A-hole once they're in
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a relationship. That's true. With the roommate. With the
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roommate. The roommate has to also be a slob
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of equal slobbiness. Yeah, yeah. Or know that they're
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entering into a slob. Or disagree to entering into
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a slob. He might not even know he's a
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psychopath. That's true. He could be like, I'm the
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cleanest person on Earth. Meanwhile, he's... Or
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he's just like, wait, I thought everyone has apartments
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like this. You know, I thought everyone like... That's
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true. Just... We're
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really fucking twisted in the knife of this
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metaphor. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to go
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and understand what actually happens in this relationship.
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to some relevant comments real quick. From
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Raingirl1-1 who says, not the a-hole, I have
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a question though. If you caught your girlfriend
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slash wife cheating, would you be hurt? If
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someone you love leaves your life, there is
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usually a period of grief. Question mark, would
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you go through it or would you just
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be carefree and happy the very next day?
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Opie says, I caught them during the act in
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one of my past relationships. I told them to
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have fun. I just left their relationship. That is
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such an insane thing. So he's carefree and happy the
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next day. He is a psychopath. Psychopath. Psychopath.
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Right? I Moved on with my life
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as usual after that. There's no reason to get sad
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for cheating. It means they are not. The one
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for you. However, for one of my
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past relationships I had to part ways
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with my ex partner due to different
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life choices. I felt sad because the
10:08
relationship ended in grieved. What matters for
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me is how it ended. If it's
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due to cheating or betrayal I just
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do not see the need to get
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sad. One of the life choices I
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want to know more Clyde like that
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is of pages Answer: it is history
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I chose to not be receive ready
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for that is my life Toys Yeah
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what is it Yeah was like I
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mean technically sitting. On your partner is
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a life choice. That is true every
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in a toys me pick it up
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this know I'm is a life choice.
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Me talking into the microphone doesn't like
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toys is so it's for his is
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it's own move with the federal appellate
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though. you know you not I see
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you. For
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those who use a gun at the movie would have
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thought of that were on their cleaned off a don't
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do the. So
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Queen Doc says sad feelings are going
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to be sad until processed. That's the
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point now. he said he'd never process
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the emotions and move on he said
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he just be like cake and end
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of the girlfriend is upset that he
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is saying that he wouldn't grieve the
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end of something that until that point
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would have seemed to have been working
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okay the lack of grief in the
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scenario he is presenting is what concerns
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the girlfriend because if you don't grieve
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the loss of something seats you even
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love it to begin with snaps in
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the sats for that sad is the
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question opie i would like to be
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take an end it if i were
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to be cheated on let's say we
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had a part ways due to different
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choices in life tell the what choices
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what that is so vague oh i
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know he added fitness fff up nicely
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for to have that you for years
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and bagged in a man i don't
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have suffered see a besides iraq i
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would cherish the memories of his relationship
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and grieve for at ending however if
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there is cheating involved i just move
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on there's no need to get sad
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that opiates just like we're breathing just
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like that is no need is that
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okay I've gotten zero more context since
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then I would completely agree with you
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here context I don't know what he's
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I really I think I think it's
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like trying to make up reasons that
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people should think he's not a psychopath
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forcing the logic to try and like
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make it make sense it doesn't make
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sense Opie on not being emotionally invested
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into his girlfriend and not care about
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the facts of being cheated on Opie
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says it is just not the romantic
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relationships if my friend betrays me in
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an unforgivable manner I take losses and
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end the relationship too so basically he
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would cut ties the same way and
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kind of like see he just he
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doesn't feel emotions in the same way
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like other people do I think that's
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what's happened I think we can diagnosis
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heck yeah what are we diagnosed where
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you dude where are you going I
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know you know what you're talking about
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over there I can empathize with people
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I get sad when my friends feel
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down I get sad when my loved
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ones get hurt however there's no need
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to get sad over something that you
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have zero fault over oh he's like
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totally empathize people so instead I get
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sad I swear yeah I'm so sad
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here I just squeeze it out I
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just forced my I Jesus to make it work is
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it I love someone until they betray me
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after that there is no need to prolong
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the relationship why work on getting back together
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with a cheater you say prolong the relationship
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that's how you know you're a psychopath it's
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really on a final note I strictly hold
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my values I do not cheat I do
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not betray and I do not intentionally hurt
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people and there is an update also I
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would like to be clear you could be
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a good psychopath I guess that is technically
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possible I've met a couple like
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legitimate psychopaths and like I met
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a guy that fantasize about killing
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people but he has a strong
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moral coat and like just because
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Wow getting real
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all right
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yeah I'm locked in All
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right, go ahead. He has a strong moral
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code and it's like just because you are
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born with a brain that is very different
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like it honestly is more Moral
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and and I think like it should be
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more lauded for a person to be Moral
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actor in the face of tendencies
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that would maybe push them towards
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immoral behavior And so in this
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case this guy doesn't seem like
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he necessarily Feels
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emotions in the same way but still has
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a strong moral compass of like I know
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what is right and what is wrong And
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I'm still going to do that Even though
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it's divorced from me like being personally affected
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by that most people when they do something
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bad to someone else feel bad Yeah, right
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and that's like their moral their moral compass
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is like I feel like when I do
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this I'm not gonna do it again But
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with this person it's like an intellectual moral
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compass. I agree The only danger here is
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like you really got to find someone who
14:53
is that like exact same like type and
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mindset as you because otherwise They're
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gonna feel like the girlfriend is feeling right now and
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maybe not feel reciprocated different question
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Do you want to be in a relationship with someone like
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that? I know I don't know if I do I
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don't I don't think I do I may have been in a
15:08
relationship Potentially potentially potentially
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it was great enough said it was
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a good relationship. Ladies and gentlemen, we
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have an update Let's get it. So
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my girlfriend broke up with me on
15:20
a phone call this morning We saw
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it. We saw it. We saw you.
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She did not speak to me at
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all before I tried to
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explain to her what I said would be
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applicable only in a case of cheating and
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I value our relationship I read most of
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the comments on the original post and tried
15:37
to clarify everything that people pointed out Did
15:39
people say he's a psychopath from our relevant
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comments? No, but I think they were kind
15:44
of Specifically digging in on the like would
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you not even feel hurt? Like I get
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like not like trying to like spend your
15:50
time on it But like and then he
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just kept saying no, No, no.
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In the end It did not work
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and I was blocked. Funny how I
15:58
do not feel. That when the other
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party cheats on me and I can
16:03
move on. But when it's a reason
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like that I feel sad and hurt.
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So O P is seemingly sad part
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and said okay buddy where we thought
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he may be couldn't feel ya as
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he just said try to appease us
16:16
our a ah I think the approved.
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I feel like that only for teething.
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Losing our relationship for something like that
16:22
feels surreal. It is upsetting. do we
16:25
believe Opie as for a pretty better
16:27
reason to to lose a relationship or
16:29
heists? Yeah, like. You would it be
16:31
sad if we broke up so I
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breaking up with you which has made
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you said yes while maybe the most
16:37
full circle sorry we have never are
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at that is a crazy of that
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the crazy real I've is like that
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get wise he would have broken up
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yes by in breaking up with him
16:48
she has proven it's like when they
16:50
like would bird which is you know
16:52
it's like oh if the weeds floats
16:54
see the weights fc drowns is not
16:56
always liked the which is still that
16:58
damned if you do. Daves the I don't
17:01
Do damned if you don't know the same situation
17:03
this is tough. Do we think that Opie telling
17:05
the truth that actually feel fat or as he
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just like being like see I told you I'm
17:10
on a sense I feel it might be a
17:12
little the performative but I think my current theory
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as of right now is that obe he does
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this not out of stoic this but out of
17:18
pettiness. So he once the other person to be
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like look how on bothered by I'm like god
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you think I care You think I value this
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at all I think it's like he's like a
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little way of getting a little bit of petty.
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revenge i think it's not that deep as
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he as a psychopath bill or do as
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they put your as is the guy was
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blow let us know we'll have to now
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i think it's best if i keep my
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ds to must have in the future not
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sure i can do that though given i
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am very straightforward get don't say might die
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the bad and good experiences in the past
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make up current us this break up will
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be one of the bad experiences that will
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make the future me and honestly when i
17:56
think about it that is really bothered me
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wishes that about Yeah, when he really
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like it be It's
18:04
supposed to happen. Why would I be? Yeah,
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come on point however I tried to
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explain myself and mend the relationship I
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believe it's best to move on and
18:14
learn from it life goes on he
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basically just said what we mockingly just
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yeah Oh, no funny. Oh,
18:21
he's predictable of anything Thank you
18:23
for the advice and we're closing
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out with a final relevant comment
18:28
from initial czg Who
18:30
says they tried to shame you into being
18:32
upset about being hypnotically cheated on I think
18:34
they probably said something like if you don't
18:37
care if I have sex with her girlfriend
18:39
right now Do you really like her
18:41
yourself opie? I mean if they do they
18:43
are not my girlfriend anymore at that point
18:46
They are free to do what they want
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just wish them have fun and move on
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Opie is the most rock of a human
18:54
I have ever witnessed in my life. He
18:56
doesn't feel emotions This is a dude that
18:58
don't feel emotions. He's Batman Batman feels
19:00
emotions Batman gets that yeah the bathroom
19:04
Yeah, dude. Have you not see you? Are
19:07
you seeing your Batman I? Can't
19:10
see Riley at all so oh no however
19:12
you've lost sight wait can we order a
19:14
mirror and put it on top of the
19:16
printer? That's pretty fun. Oh, that's what okay.
19:18
Yeah, that seems solvable. That seems solvable okay?
19:20
I'm a fun one, but yeah I think
19:22
that opie the way that opie is sad
19:24
is like oh, I can't like spend time
19:26
with you anymore I can't hang out like
19:28
I'm kind of losing out the same way
19:30
if you like lose a job that you love you
19:33
get laid off You're like oh, man. I love like
19:35
going here spending time like it's more So it's not
19:37
like the emotional connection to the person. He's missing
19:40
It's like the like what he gets out of
19:42
it that he's missing exactly which I think is
19:44
a very different way of Looking
19:46
at a partner then most partners would want
19:48
to be looked at yes And for that
19:50
reason I'm out well there you go But
19:54
Sam, but John could I invest in this
19:57
next story 15% for five? $10,000
20:00
steel I Found
20:05
it this podcast isn't rated five stars.
20:07
Well, it's your own damn ball. You
20:09
got two thumbs in a brain Or
20:21
wherever you get your podcasts
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