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your podcasts. Am
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I the a-hole for threatening my wife with
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divorce after she quit her job to be
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a tradwife? So, organiclet5948
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says, I don't
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even know where to begin with this. Me,
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34 male, and my wife, 33 female,
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have two kids together, 11 male and 9 female.
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Me and my wife have been together for 12 years
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and married for 8. Around
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a year ago, I noticed
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my wife increasingly sending me
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these tradwife or traditional housewife
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TikToks. I've got nothing against
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the type of relationship, but I don't
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think it makes sense for our current
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family situation. Wait, what is a
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tradwife? Uh, what
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do you think? Phil? You
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need to angle the camera down.
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Okay, I'll get Phil in there. Also,
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before I answer Riley's very
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good question, uh, welcome
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again. I no longer sound like a
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robot. I've regained my
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human form. I did
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a brief stint as a Dalek. You
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don't get that joke. Uh,
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what do you mean to explain it? You
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don't understand, Riley. Uh, a
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tradwife for any, any people out
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there who don't, you're
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about to see why we're laughing. A tradwife is
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like a traditional, quote unquote, like traditional wife,
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someone who wants to be a housewife or
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stay at home while, you know, Okay. Yeah.
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Um, What do you guys think? What do you think
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about it? Yeah,
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why would you say that? Oh
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my god, Phil! You're gonna
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get cancelled! Also- Alright,
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we're done, we're done. Okay,
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I think of- I like- someone
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said Bones for the other guy and
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I liked that. I had a great one. Anyway,
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let's keep going. I know,
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sure. I was like, oh
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Bones, and then Boney, Bones, I was like, Boner.
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Yeah, that was Riley's great
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name. Around
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a year ago- oh, I said that. I
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do earn quite a bit more than my wife
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and enough to sustain our family on my own,
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but I don't see the need to do so.
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I work 80% and my wife 50%,
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and besides Wednesdays where the both of us are
2:44
working, either one of us is always home for
2:46
the kids. I could work 100%
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and let my wife be a stay-at-home mom,
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but again, both of my kids are attending
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school, and in my mind, there is no
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need for my wife to be at home
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24-7. She's
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got increasingly pushy about it over
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the past two months, and
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again, I just kept on telling her that there
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wasn't any need for that, and if we did
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decide to go down that route, what would she
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do during the hours my kids attended school? I
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know damn well our house doesn't need to be
3:14
cleaned for six hours a day. She
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would constantly try to butter me up with, you
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would have dinner ready every day when
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coming home from work, and
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something about unlimited BJs or
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some BS like that. Again,
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in the nicest way possible, I
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would remind her that our kids
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weren't toddlers, and our current work-life
3:36
schedule allowed us to function perfectly
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fine. Yeah,
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before we keep going, I think that you both
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have to be on board. Like,
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it's totally fine to want to be a traditional
3:48
wife or be a stay-at-home mom, but
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you can't just decide that you're going to be one.
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If your partner's like, hey, that doesn't
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make sense. So
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she was like, I'll
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make you... and also unlimited
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BJ's. Yeah, and he's like, why?
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This is a bad deal. Bad
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deal? No, because they
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both have enough time to
4:15
take care of the kids and stuff. The kids,
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it doesn't really make sense, I don't think. Okay.
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What he's saying. Okay. It's
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not like they're overtaxed with
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the kids or anything, or it's not like
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one person is coming home significantly later and
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not able to make dinner. I
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don't know. I feel like she
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could have got this and she spun it a little better
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like, hey, let me be a tradwife and
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also pursue my photography career. Yeah, but it
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seems like that's not the case. We
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got into a pretty heated argument two
4:47
weeks ago about it and my wife
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completely stopped having spicy sleep with me
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to show me what I would be
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missing out on. This
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is very immature. She's
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basically been treating me like a roommate since. I
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just thought she would get over it and this would
5:04
just be a phase, but God was I wrong.
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I came home from work yesterday and saw a bunch
5:10
of presents on the dining table. At
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first I thought they were all for me since my
5:14
birthday was in a week, but then I saw the
5:16
labels on them addressed to my wife. I
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read one of the letters attached to one of
5:22
the presents. The last sentence on it was literally...
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It was such a
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pleasure working alongside you and I wish
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you all the best moving forward. I
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thought this was some sick prank. No
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way she actually did it. I'm
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confused. What did
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she do? She quit. She
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just quit. Whatever job
5:44
she had, she got a present from her
5:46
workplace saying, oh, so did I hurt her.
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No. No, so she just went
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ahead and quit? She already quit. I
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thought she had written that letter. I was confused.
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She pursued her dreams. What? That's
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not stop. Missick says she basically...
5:59
basically just doesn't want to work anymore. That's what
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it seems like. She's not pursuing anything else. They
6:04
don't need more help with childcare.
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Yeah, very strange. I
6:11
just left without saying, oh wait, nope, sorry.
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I thought this was some sick prank. A
6:16
few minutes later, my wife just casually strolls
6:18
into the living room acting like nothing was
6:21
wrong. I guess she
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saw my mad expression and had the
6:25
audacity to tell me that you'll get
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over it. I
6:29
just lost it. Is that
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phrase the same as like chill out or
6:33
calm down? Yeah. Saying an aggravated woman
6:35
has to calm down. Yeah, no, this is so
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messed up. Telling a guy you'll get
6:40
over it. I think anyone, if
6:42
you told anyone, you'll get over it after
6:44
it just happened. We'll see. I'll
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plot on your math. I
6:50
still have a big old ant problem
6:52
all around the house and Sam was like, get
6:54
over the ants. But it's still happening. I don't
6:57
think you can get over something that's actively happening.
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You moved her bed from the wall. I did. I
7:03
completely rearranged my room because they kept crawling on my
7:05
bed. And now they're in the kitchen. I've
7:08
been raiding the whole house. I
7:11
just left without saying another word and went to
7:13
my parents' house. I feel absolutely
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disrespected. Why the F would my wife
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think it was okay to just quit
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her job without telling me and just
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accept me to be fine with it?
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My wife has been bombarding me with texts
7:26
and calls demanding to know where I am
7:28
and that the kids miss me. I
7:31
just told her to go find a lawyer and that
7:33
I was done with her and then proceeded to
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block her. My son just sent
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me a voicemail crying and asking why I
7:40
was divorcing mom. She did
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not. She's using her kids
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to guilt trip him. I
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feel like there's more behind this. I don't think she actually
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doesn't want to work. I don't know.
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This is so weird. And I guess
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that's kind of oh and if I was leaving the
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family and I guess that kind of broke my heart.
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I haven't responded and honestly don't know what
8:00
to say to him. My mother-in-law has also
8:02
been demanding that I return home and
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apologize to my wife. My parents
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also seem to be siding with the wife
8:09
since they're traditional Muslims. My mom also used
8:11
to be a stay-at-home mom. But
8:13
this is like so different. You can't
8:15
just decide what like one random
8:17
day to be a stay-at-home mom. That's a conversation
8:20
that both you and your partner should have about
8:22
if there is like if we
8:25
one you know need
8:27
a partner to be a stay-at-home partner
8:29
and like two does
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it make sense financially or is
8:33
it going to hurt us financially?
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Yeah. I'm wondering like if I had a kid
8:37
right now would I be a stay-at-home dad? Because
8:40
I'm always at home and the kid would be with me.
8:42
That's true. I think a stay-at-home I don't
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know because I wouldn't consider my mom a
8:48
stay-at-home parent. If you had a kid right now you'd be a
8:50
stay-at-home mom. No but like technically yes
8:53
but I think that usually oh
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Katie Kate I tried cinnamon it didn't work.
8:57
I tried vinegar. Oh my god. Sorry
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what were you saying? I
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don't think technically because you are still
9:05
working you're not exactly
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a stay-at-home parent because
9:10
my mom worked
9:12
from home most of my life
9:15
but I wouldn't consider it exactly
9:17
a stay-at-home parent because she's
9:19
still working. Gotcha. So she's
9:21
like I don't know maybe people
9:23
disagree maybe it's just if you're at
9:25
home all the time you're a stay-at-home
9:28
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like I'm wrong for immediately jumping to divorce
10:01
without hearing her out and besides this whole
10:03
job drama love my wife too much for
10:05
this to be the end of our otherwise
10:08
perfect marriage but on the other hand I
10:10
feel like I've lost complete trust in her.
10:12
Should I just swallow my pride and let
10:14
my wife stay at home from now from
10:17
now on or should I follow through on divorcing
10:20
her? How should I navigate the situation? Am
10:22
I the a-hole here? And there are some
10:24
relevant comments and an update but I want
10:27
to know your relevant
10:29
comments. Can we scroll up and
10:31
say okay actually there's one right
10:33
there. Oh did you do a poll? I
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like doing polls on this. Lovely. Okay there.
10:38
Kristen Foylhott says no just because you work from
10:40
home doesn't make you a stay-at-home mom that's yeah
10:43
or stay-at-home parent. When you work you still need
10:45
someone to take care of your kids for you
10:47
while you work. That one yeah that's what I
10:49
think mostly because I have babysat
10:51
for parents who work from home before.
10:54
Oh. Because they're working so
10:56
they don't have time to take care of
10:58
the kids especially. Oh yeah cuz I was like
11:00
I'm gonna be a stay-at-home dad when I grow
11:02
up because I have online work. Technically you wouldn't
11:05
be unless you
11:08
weren't working and your job was being
11:10
a like full-time parent cleaner of the
11:12
house and stuff. Rebecca
11:17
Proles is a
11:19
stay-at-home parent typically does not do
11:21
paid work that's yeah. So that seems
11:23
like it's a general consensus. Maybe
11:25
she could give me a stifle.
11:27
Yeah Logan Bad Wolf says it's
11:29
hard to work from home and it's so hard
11:32
to take care of my kid if my husband
11:34
isn't there. Yeah what
11:37
I will say is the chat. Tina
11:41
Reena says no shame in being a stay-at-home mom
11:43
or taking time off from work but the key
11:45
is communication between the two of them. That's the
11:47
thing like it's I don't think it would have
11:49
been an issue if at
11:52
the beginning of their marriage or I
11:54
don't know it could have been it sometime in the
11:56
middle of the marriage they had a conversation and she was
11:58
like hey. I think we
12:00
need this for our kids. I think we need to focus
12:02
more on the kids. I would like to focus more on
12:04
our kids or something like that. But she just kind of
12:08
quit her job. And was like,
12:10
I'm not gonna work now. Yeah. Which
12:13
is, well yeah, strange. What do you guys think about jobs?
12:18
Wow. Wow,
12:20
typical. Typical never
12:22
worked a day in their life. Unbelievable.
12:26
I can't believe you would say that. But
12:28
there are some relevant comments. So let's get into them.
12:31
About their religion. Thank you, but we
12:33
aren't strict Muslims. Yes, we pray, et
12:35
cetera, but we don't follow any of
12:37
the traditional gender role ideologies. My
12:39
wife tends to be a bit more on the
12:41
conservative and traditional
12:44
side where I am a bit more
12:46
liberal. And I mean, doesn't the same
12:48
apply for Christianity? Go back home. Someone
12:52
says go back home and Opie response. I've
12:55
told my son I'll be home by tomorrow. I'll just
12:57
be gone for two days. Another person
12:59
says there had to have been red flags
13:01
earlier than this. Opie responds,
13:03
I mean, before this, the only red
13:05
flag I saw was her constantly just
13:07
ignoring me if we had a disagreement.
13:10
But usually that was for maybe max two days.
13:13
This was the first time she did that for a longer
13:15
period of time. And then the crux of the
13:18
issue, Opie responds, the fact
13:20
that she would be home relaxing isn't the
13:22
issue. It's the fact that we now have
13:24
to significantly cut down our current expenses. And
13:26
I'm not even sure if my company is willing to let
13:28
me work 100%. And
13:31
another exchange, one commenter says, this
13:33
quote unquote tradwife stuff is cult
13:36
level bat shit. Crazy. The
13:38
women who are indebted to tradwife culture
13:40
out of some desire to be valued
13:42
and have fewer outside of the home
13:44
responsibilities and the men who encourage women
13:47
to become tradwives out of some weird
13:49
chauvinist nostalgia for the family dynamics of
13:51
the 40s to 60s. And
13:53
an insecure need to fully control their
13:56
wife and household are codimented wrecks and
13:58
borderline sociopaths, respectively. That
14:02
was a mouthful. I love that they edited it with
14:04
respectively. They're borderline sociopaths,
14:07
respectively. I
14:09
feel so bad that you've been hit so hard
14:11
by this. I imagine it'd be like figuring out
14:14
one of your parents went down the QAnon rabbit
14:16
hole or worse. You should split
14:18
with her, absolutely. Beyond a certain
14:20
point, there's no reasoning with these people. And
14:23
then Opie responds, thank you, but I don't
14:25
think that this post should spread hate to
14:27
those who are currently are or
14:29
were tradwives. It's a completely acceptable type
14:31
of relationship if both parties agree to
14:33
it. And that's my
14:36
primary issue with all of this. Whew,
14:39
that was a lot of comments. But
14:41
there is an update. But
14:45
I think, yeah, I think we've kind
14:47
of discussed this already.
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It's the communication. It's the lack of communication.
14:54
It would have been totally fine if they had agreed and
14:56
they had both been on board for this, but she just
14:58
went ahead and did it. And that's
15:00
not okay. That's not cool. Yeah. Should
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we just get into the stuff, too? Yeah, let's do it. Oh, actually, I'll
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I did listen to it back and it was it
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was strange that bad like ah
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it was like You
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just some week. Yeah, this computer
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14% of you don't think divorce a
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in the F'ing
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the gardener. I was like thin What
16:44
gardener do they have a gardener or is this just
16:46
like a general the She's
16:48
like I want to be stay at home so I
16:50
can be with the gardener. Yeah, and
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you know what I want to reach into This
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next update, okay cool,
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I didn't want to say anything Before
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I get into this next update TLDR
17:20
from all you little newcomers
17:23
around here Basically
17:26
OP's wife brought up wanting
17:29
to be a tradwife and
17:32
OP was like that doesn't make sense financially and
17:34
then his wife quit her job and Kind
17:37
of did it anyway. And so now they're
17:39
their marriage is pretty rocky
17:42
Let's get into this update. I would just said post
17:45
pre-vorce post pre-vorce
17:49
Oh First
17:52
of all, I just want to thank you guys
17:54
for the overwhelming support I've received I
17:57
received a ton of messages, but please be patient with
17:59
me I. Just went out of
18:01
of. The. As right I was giving and.
18:04
I. Just want to had a few crucial details
18:06
that I miss to mention in my original post.
18:09
I. Suffer from a genetic heart condition that puts
18:12
me at risk to. Stress induced cardiac
18:14
arrest. Move the fuck it?
18:17
I. Used to work full time but was
18:19
forced to cut down on my work
18:21
after suffering a silent heart attacks. Oh
18:23
the online is so he has a
18:25
lake literal condition. That and. Like.
18:28
Means he needs to cut down on work
18:30
and she's ignoring that. Mess.
18:34
Mess. Ya. Dude, she
18:36
could just take care of human. Go. Blue.
18:38
Know because he would needed because she's
18:40
a stay at home mom. There's no
18:42
extra. Income coming in so he has to work
18:44
more. But. If he works more,
18:46
who's more at risk for heart attack? That
18:52
this was nearly a decade ago, but since then
18:54
I've worked on my own are worth my own.
18:57
Physical. And mental wellbeing. Some.
18:59
People didn't understand me constantly mentioning why
19:01
was such an issue working the extra
19:03
twenty percent. I honestly don't know
19:06
how much time I have left and my kids
19:08
are the most important things in my life. For.
19:10
My own mental health. It's essential that I
19:12
get to spend time with my kids throughout
19:14
the week. Besides my wife and kids, I
19:17
have nothing. Oh I hate my
19:19
as a job and purely continue for the
19:21
sake of my kids and wife. This is.
19:24
The side. So.
19:28
Oh. Well. After spending a day
19:30
at my parents' house, eventually I enough time
19:32
to pass for me to gather my thoughts
19:34
on everything. What? She did seems like
19:36
the ultimate slap in the face, but I
19:38
went back that the intention to resolve this
19:41
and didn't want to escalate this effing nightmare.
19:43
My. Wife seems happy I
19:45
returned, but wasn't apologetic at
19:48
all. No. I think. I
19:50
don't have this relationship. Is gonna work out.
19:53
Of those. I. Don't think if if
19:55
she's not going to apologize. I didn't
19:58
even think about like that. Such a great point that. Made
20:00
about. If he works more,
20:02
he's going to also have to spend less time
20:05
with his kids. Which
20:07
I feel like if you're viewing it from the
20:10
tried why thing is like all the man doesn't
20:12
Will isn't as tired. As a new to be with
20:14
Arizona been. With his children. That's a woman's
20:16
job that lake you flick. I want to
20:18
parrot my kids I wanna be there for
20:21
them and you're denying me. that. Right
20:23
to Xia. Also messed
20:25
up a solid something. or like millennium.
20:27
Dads are spending way more time with
20:29
their kids in their dead the. Yeah,
20:31
that makes sense. As.
20:33
Also I think it's probably a
20:36
little bitty because there is a
20:38
split of income earth but of
20:40
like working between partners. Third, Eye.
20:42
People are now able to up kind of a more
20:44
equal time with her kids. My.
20:48
Wife I read that the. Kids
20:50
especially my son were is static.
20:53
That. That sort of made me ignore the lack
20:55
of remorse for the time being at same
20:57
night. After putting my kids to bed I
20:59
told her we need of a serious discussion.
21:01
I. Told her how I felt about everything she
21:04
did, the fact that she knows about my
21:06
health condition and still went through it. That's.
21:08
The. Fact that I sat clear boundaries and
21:10
she still chose to quit her job
21:12
without my consent. How
21:14
the fact that she told my son that I
21:17
was going to abandon the family really felt like
21:19
a stab and the back of. Throughout all of
21:21
this she didn't even seem. Remorseful once.
21:24
The. Fact that she chose her own happiness
21:26
to the detriment of mine. the fact that
21:29
I sacrificed so much for the family and
21:31
I got repay that like this. The fact
21:33
that we now as a family have to
21:35
make major lifestyle changes since a third of
21:37
our family income just. Her split
21:40
second, I saw an ounce of
21:42
sadness in her eyes before she
21:44
went right back. To being
21:46
annoyed with me. And. Then Barbie
21:48
as he says why did she changed her mind was
21:50
suddenly want to be a stay at home wife or
21:53
yes it is is all just a sudden for her
21:55
to make. The. Issues: Snow laps
21:57
such a. Giant. Lack of
21:59
communication. And it's just happening
22:01
very quickly. I
22:04
then simply told her to lay out her half of
22:06
the story. Here is a summary of what she said,
22:10
or maybe about to get a reason for
22:12
why she did this. I think a
22:14
lot of her friends with their mom's in their
22:16
life. Oh my gosh, it's so fun. You need
22:19
to do it. You're working? It's
22:21
crazy. You should do that.
22:23
That's a man's job. And she's like, well,
22:25
is it going to quit? She
22:29
felt ignored by me constantly rejecting
22:31
her proposal. She had worked long
22:33
enough, and this was finally the
22:35
time for her to enjoy her life as a true
22:38
wife. What? She's
22:40
like, I've worked so long.
22:42
You just have to keep working so I can
22:44
quit. That's not
22:47
how this works. That's not how it works.
22:50
She also said that I was being a baby about
22:52
the whole spending extra time with the kids thing. That
22:57
really pissed me off. And we ended up
22:59
getting into a heated argument. I couldn't bear
23:01
any of it anymore and just ended up
23:03
sleeping in the guest room. Until
23:05
yesterday, nothing changed. She
23:07
constantly tried to play everything off and
23:10
wanted to embrace her new role by
23:12
constantly trying to have spicy sleep with
23:15
me and by making me my
23:17
favorite dishes. This is just a rubber
23:20
band of emotions. It's just
23:23
constantly snapping back and forth. It's
23:25
crazy. It
23:28
just felt like she was trying to manipulate me
23:30
again. I wasn't having any of it. I just
23:32
kept on sleeping in the guest room. Well,
23:34
my birthday was yesterday. Birthday.
23:38
Happy birthday. And after work,
23:40
my wife and kids picked me up and we ate
23:42
dinner together. This was probably the
23:44
first time I genuinely had a smile on my
23:46
face in a week. Well, that
23:48
smile vanished because she tried to seduce
23:50
me again later that night. I
23:53
rejected her, and to my surprise,
23:55
she had a full-on mental breakdown.
23:59
Oof. Uh-oh. I
24:01
feel like she's like, gotta
24:04
like go back on her original
24:07
thought about being a stay-at-home mom. I
24:10
feel like she's, yeah, she's gonna change her mind now
24:12
maybe. Or they're gonna divorce. I could see
24:14
that. Yeah, I feel like either the, I think the
24:16
only way that this can work out is if she
24:18
changes her mind or if they get a divorce. R.I.P.
24:24
Mm. Wormlady says, you think she got radicalized
24:26
by Tradwife forums? Well, it seems like she
24:28
was showing him a lot of like TikTok
24:31
videos about being a Tradwife. So
24:33
it seems like she was kind of in that echo chamber
24:35
for a while. Yeah, Nate Mackey
24:37
said a little bit ago. She's
24:39
red-pilled. Yeah.
24:42
That's what, yeah, it seems like she's been stuck in
24:44
it for like a, I don't know, they said at
24:46
least a couple months, I think. Yeah. It seems
24:48
like she kept bringing it up to me and I was ignoring it. Yeah.
24:53
Um, I
24:55
just held her as she started to apologize for
24:57
what she did. She claimed she didn't
25:00
understand how much she hurt me. She was sorry
25:02
for making me feel like an afterthought, etc. We
25:05
ended up sleeping in the same bed yesterday. I
25:08
felt like things were finally moving in the right direction
25:10
and I again asked her about
25:12
searching for a new job today. Instead
25:14
of getting mad, she just replied with, I need
25:17
to think about it. Okay, okay, so
25:19
maybe they're getting somewhere. There's some thought
25:22
behind it. She needs to think about it.
25:24
That's still not, still
25:26
not, you know, much, but it is
25:28
a thought. It's more than
25:30
before. Yeah,
25:35
that's where things are as of today. It
25:37
feels like progress is being made, but I
25:39
don't know if this is just another one
25:41
of her manipulation tactics. I'll
25:43
probably make a final update in a month
25:45
or so. Reddit isn't doing my mental health
25:48
any favors. Fabiors.
25:51
How would you guys move forward in this
25:53
situation? Could I have done something better? Is
25:55
she being genuine? And to those insos who constantly
25:58
bring up Islam as a way to get to the point where they're not as good as they are, to
26:00
justify her behavior, please shut the F up."
26:03
And there are some relevant comments,
26:05
but no more updates. So
26:08
should we just get into
26:10
those? Or actually, I'll read some of
26:12
your fuel comments first. Duchess
26:15
Kasana says, if he'd talked to her instead of
26:17
ignoring her for months, maybe things would be different
26:19
now too. That is also
26:21
what I was thinking because we've been
26:24
talking a lot about communication. And
26:26
if she had kind of been broaching this
26:28
subject for months, I
26:31
probably shouldn't have ignored the issue. He
26:34
probably should have been like, hey, that's not going to
26:36
work out for us. We just aren't financially
26:38
in the right place. Miss
26:41
J. Bird says, time for her
26:43
to lose some things since no one
26:45
should lose anything due to her financial decisions.
26:47
Yeah. If she can't
26:49
afford it, then maybe she doesn't get a buy-it.
26:54
So someone brought up earlier, I
26:56
don't know who said it, but someone brought up
26:59
her trying to seduce him to get
27:01
a baby, which would
27:04
probably... Baby trap. Yeah, kind of
27:06
a baby trap. Thus, resulting her to stay at home. Having
27:08
to stay at home, yeah. Tanja
27:11
Sisny says, what choice does she really
27:13
have? If they divorce, she'll certainly need to
27:15
go back to work. Yeah. So
27:18
it's like she either gets
27:20
help in income or she has
27:22
to work on her own. Or
27:24
like she has to go back to work and gets a
27:26
second income or she doesn't get a second income
27:28
and still has to go back to work. Either
27:32
way, I feel like she's got to have to go
27:34
back to work. Work because of
27:36
mine. Noemi
27:38
says, okay, to be fair, he sounded jerky when
27:41
describing stay at home moms like they do nothing
27:43
all day while the kids are at school, but
27:45
that's no excuse for her behavior. She should have
27:47
done therapy long ago. Yeah, that's
27:49
fair. He was... Well, I
27:51
don't know if he was necessarily describing
27:54
all stay at home moms like that. I think he
27:56
was just saying that it... Like the...
28:00
kids are school, she would
28:02
be doing significantly, she wouldn't
28:04
be doing as much work as
28:06
a stay-at-home mom to babies,
28:10
especially because he's coming home at five
28:12
or something. So it's not like she is
28:16
alone in the house all day. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
28:18
yeah. Maybe not five, I don't know, that was
28:20
a random number. Yeah.
28:23
Evening time. Evening, three to five
28:25
maybe. Um,
28:28
but let's get into these last relevant comments.
28:30
Nice. One commenter says, if you're
28:32
still questioning things at this point, respectfully take
28:34
your effing head out of your butt. Obie
28:37
says, I guess you're hinting at divorce. Let
28:39
me make it clear for you, in our
28:42
culture divorce is the last resort and extremely
28:44
frowned upon, and especially if there are kids
28:46
involved. I wanna fix this,
28:48
if she shows no improvement after I've
28:50
tried everything, yes, then I'll
28:53
go to divorce. Commenter, another
28:55
commenter says, she's not even being a
28:57
good tradwife, since they're supposedly
28:59
meant to put their husband's needs ahead of
29:01
their own, but she's definitely putting her wants
29:03
out of your needs. It sounds like you
29:05
really need couples counseling. Obie
29:08
responds, she believes my needs
29:10
solely revolve around sex, that's
29:12
the problem. And
29:14
Obie responds to a different comment saying, she's
29:16
always been like this, she f's up or
29:18
wants something from me equals trying to f
29:21
me 24 seven. That's
29:23
also pretty messed up, like trying
29:25
to resolve all of your problems with
29:28
like sleeping with the person, doesn't
29:31
seem like a healthy way of communication.
29:33
Yeah, because then soon, it's
29:35
like the dog in the bell. Pavlov's
29:37
dog? Yeah, yeah, the Pavlov's
29:39
thing. Yeah, it just doesn't seem very
29:42
healthy. Another
29:44
commenter says, when she came to you with her issue,
29:46
what did you do to help find a solution? Obie
29:49
says, I constantly told her she can reduce
29:51
her hours if she
29:54
wants. Okay, so they did have a kind of solution
29:56
brought up. That's fine with me, being at home 24
29:58
seven without my consent is. where
30:00
I draw the line. Another
30:02
person says, do you have life insurance?
30:04
Yeah, I work for insurance. And
30:06
then couples counseling, thank you OP says. Couples
30:09
therapy can definitely help. I love that that was
30:12
the last comment on here. What?
30:14
Couples therapy. Couples therapy. I
30:16
was like divorce just forget about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And couples
30:19
counseling. Yeah. I
30:21
think that's, that seems like the
30:24
answer that OP is most comfortable with
30:27
right now because he doesn't want divorce.
30:30
But if they don't
30:32
come to an agreement, it just seems like
30:35
they're both at an impasse right now. Like
30:37
she so desperately wants this tribe, like
30:39
tribe life lifestyle. And
30:42
he's like, I can't, we can't afford that. Yeah.
30:45
Gabby V says, damn, she's using sex
30:47
as a weapon, a weapon slash bargaining
30:49
tool. Yeah. Very
30:51
not good. But
30:54
that's all the, that's the whole story.
30:56
That's the full thing. There's no more.
30:59
Maybe he'll update and we'll, we'll
31:01
include it on our update episode. But
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people that... My girlfriend. Dude.
32:02
She... I love
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it when she talks to me, but last night
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there was just something. It's just a wave. But
32:09
people with ADHD though, if they talk at you
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nonstop, that's like their version of like, I love
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you. Yeah. So I adored
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let's get you a mic and camera because you
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engage with people when I'm like, I
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guess, I mean, that's everyone. If I'm
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Do you not like the Will Spin? We have 705
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all of you guys who haven't liked wouldn't You
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wouldn't change your fate Whoa Let's
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get into this next story Am
34:32
I the a-hole for rejecting my
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ex-husband when he begged me to give
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him his old life back? What's
34:40
his old- Like he wants to
34:42
restart the marriage? We
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got nerfed Mmm, I don't know about that
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So, Throwray, lovebaking says, throw away
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because he uses Reddit regularly Forgive
34:54
any grammar mistakes this may have I
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grew up speaking Spanish because my parents
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moved to the US from Puerto Rico
35:01
Okay, I'm sorry If
35:03
you are gonna have a throwaway account Don't say
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things like I came here
35:08
from Puerto Rico and I'm in America now
35:11
And I don't speak English as my first
35:13
language Dude, he's gonna- no You're
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doxxing yourself, man You're doxxing yourself
35:20
Me and my husband were teen parents and had
35:22
our oldest daughter when I was 16 and he
35:24
was 18 This is a lot of info if
35:26
he uses Reddit a lot He
35:29
and I agreed we'd get married and start a family
35:32
so our daughter would grow up with both parents I
35:35
know this wasn't a good decision, but at the time
35:37
I truly believed we would make it work We
35:39
have three kids together, two sons and one
35:41
daughter My ex lived in Boston
35:43
while I and the kids were in San Francisco while
35:45
he was in college I finished
35:48
high school but didn't get to go to college because
35:50
he said he'd like for me to be a stay-at-home
35:52
wife and mom A lot of
35:54
stay-at-home partners in
35:56
this collection of stories What's
36:00
good be you Riley? I'd like that.
36:02
Yeah, I don't I don't think
36:04
I want to be stay at home partner I
36:07
mean as long as I can still podcast Yeah I
36:09
don't want to spend I want to have a job that
36:11
allows me to spend a lot of time with my kids
36:13
But I still want to have a job like this
36:15
schedule is perfect like yeah with kids in the
36:17
morning And then I in the night livestream at
36:20
12 get done around Hopefully never
36:22
have kids will you guys let me be done
36:24
by like six to hang out with my kids?
36:26
Yeah No
36:28
bring them on I'm gonna
36:30
have my kids be on any sort of social media like
36:32
I don't want to I don't want to like advertise them
36:35
on My social media. What do you mean? Dude? Those are
36:37
cash cows right there. No exactly I'm
36:39
not profiting off of my children. We monetize everything.
36:41
No, I don't want to be one of those
36:44
like youtubers that Just
36:46
post their kids for content. I
36:48
thought my life I Think
36:50
they're costing you a lot of money. Why not get
36:53
that money back? No,
36:57
I made them come into this world. I
37:00
have to take care of them. They don't owe me anything And
37:04
I agreed because I wanted us to get
37:06
along at the time and trusted his judgment
37:11
During our marriage I did most of
37:13
the housework and dealt with the kids
37:16
school stuff extracurricular activities playdates Etc.
37:19
Also Riley. Can you change the TLDR? Oh
37:21
my gosh Yes, thank
37:23
you. Sorry guys. He was very busy during
37:25
most of it. So whenever he was home He
37:27
spent the time he wasn't sleeping playing with the
37:29
kids. So he didn't make much time for
37:31
our marriage Oh, I
37:34
tried my best to entertain him I wanted him to
37:36
be interested in me a little more and I just
37:38
wanted him to spend time with me But
37:40
he refused most of the time because he
37:42
was tired from work and other things Our
37:46
main issue was that he didn't do anything with
37:48
the kids besides playing with them or buying them
37:50
things I was the only one
37:52
enforcing some type of discipline and he was undoing
37:54
all of it If I scolded any
37:56
of our kids in front of me, he'd side with
37:58
the kid and disregard me It was very
38:01
frustrating but I loved him so I
38:03
stayed. I basically spent our
38:05
entire marriage trying to appease him
38:07
until 2021. What
38:10
happened in 2021? What's
38:12
about to happen? Also
38:16
before we get into the juicy
38:18
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Sorry I just bones. I really
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the little merm. Bones. His
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name is Bones alright. Wait, so Bones. Oh
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Bones. Bones. And Phil.
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you needed two. Someone put
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you Dominica Strangierka for the 246. Love
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you all and we love you. But
39:21
let's find out what happened in 2021. I
39:28
found out he slept with a coworker of
39:30
his. Exactly
39:33
blue. He
39:36
begged to go to therapy but I said no.
39:39
He never believed in couples therapy up until that moment.
39:41
I was depressed
39:43
for months because of this. I
39:45
filed for divorce a week after I found
39:48
out and after a lot of resisting he
39:50
finally agreed and we had a peaceful divorce.
39:52
No fighting, no threatening, no nothing.
39:55
He has the kids on the weekends and I have them on the weekdays.
39:57
So I see him. only
40:00
on the weekends. After
40:03
the divorce, we barely talked, mostly because
40:05
I was avoiding him. But when
40:07
I started going out with friends, he started sending
40:09
me angry messages about the way I was dressing
40:11
at my age as a mom. Basically,
40:14
he started sloot shaming me for
40:16
going out and living my life without him.
40:18
He sucks. Yikes.
40:22
He called me crying a few hours ago begging
40:24
me to get back to him. He's so
40:27
needy. He's so pathetic. He's
40:29
shaming her
40:32
and then he's like, I want you back. No.
40:34
Grass is always going to the other
40:37
side, but it's the most scream where
40:39
you water it. Yeah. Should've thought about
40:41
that. Should've thought about that. Where
40:46
was I? I didn't hang up.
40:49
I just listened. I kept listening until he
40:51
had nothing else to say and hung up.
40:54
I cried for an hour and now I'm just thinking
40:56
of what to do now. I know
40:58
I can't go back to him because it isn't fair to
41:00
our kids or to me, but I don't
41:02
know how to reject him without upsetting him. He's
41:05
got to be upset either way. He did that
41:07
to himself. Yeah. He did that to himself.
41:09
He cheated on you and now he's being
41:11
a baby about it. You
41:15
deserve better and you don't owe him your
41:18
kindness. Yeah, I really don't.
41:21
Just tell him no. Say I
41:23
have no intention of getting back together with
41:25
you. You suck. Yeah, and it
41:27
seems like you're a very kind person. You have the
41:29
right to be mad about this. You know
41:31
what you should do? Uh-oh. You
41:34
should find a 24-year-old pop
41:37
star. I knew it.
41:40
And start a
41:43
sling with him where you travel
41:45
around Europe together until the
41:47
paparazzi find you and expose
41:50
your relationship and then you
41:53
go back and forth on whether or not you can stay
41:55
together and then you break up
41:57
because your daughter is getting so much fling. at
42:00
school and then five years later
42:04
something stop stop you just said the
42:06
plot of the movie okay Sophia and I I
42:08
can't I cannot watch movies with you anymore
42:15
you get so she gets
42:18
so like excited about seeing like handsome
42:21
men oh yeah that's not why
42:23
I was excited really cute moments
42:25
happening we saw a movie last
42:27
last night but
42:30
you were all like I kind of spoiled it so
42:32
now I'm like should I just not tell you guys
42:34
the name don't tell him the name of it second
42:39
yeah cuz I did kind of spoil parts
42:41
of it but oh my good
42:43
like just like sliming around in her
42:45
chair the whole time yeah it
42:48
was just a good movie it was a good
42:50
Riley liked it too it was pretty
42:52
nice is nice what are you doing dude well
42:55
we're doing you're sitting on my
42:57
word you're sitting on my word
42:59
this is
43:02
filling bones time yeah but
43:05
you know what time it really is now wait
43:09
wait wait Sam I
43:11
want to name the other one not
43:13
bones of a boner and I want
43:15
to keep it bones no give
43:19
me my worm you scally
43:22
down rolls
43:24
story why
43:32
dragons before I am a part
43:34
of even gang yeah I
43:36
love listening to your show whenever
43:38
I can you're all very entertaining
43:41
I'm Finn starting to get to
43:43
listen to the livestream oh finally
43:45
fine fidda
43:47
the thanks for the fun worm queen
43:50
you're welcome anything for
43:52
you thank you Stanley ghost star for
43:54
the pipe but tip come on guys let's get
43:56
another hour I need to write my paper other
43:58
well yes We need to help
44:01
Stanley goes to write their paper. And
44:03
they only know. Yeah, chatty, chatty. I
44:06
don't approve of chatty for writing papers.
44:09
Use your own words. No
44:12
plagiarism in this chat. But
44:14
let's get into this next story. Let's
44:17
get into it. Woo! Are you joining or are you just hanging out
44:19
for a bit? I'm just hanging out for a bit, I have other
44:21
words to do. Did John handle the
44:23
ants downstairs? Is there ants? In the kitchen.
44:25
There's ants in the kitchen? There was
44:27
a whole line of them. A wine?
44:29
You know why? Why? Because
44:32
you leave crumbs everywhere. That is not true.
44:34
I didn't even have anything this morning. Well,
44:36
anyway. Anywho, I think
44:38
he raided the kitchen. Let's
44:41
get into this story. Yay, cancer
44:43
in our food. Woo! Woo!
44:46
We already got it in there. It's okay. Microplastics. Am
44:49
I the a-hole for wanting to leave my
44:51
husband after he stole from me? No,
44:54
I think that's, can you bring me water, Sam?
44:57
Me too. I think that's pretty
44:59
natural if your husband steals
45:01
from you. I
45:03
feel like you should divorce. So,
45:07
okay, prestigious guest says, when I was five,
45:09
my nana gave me her tea set. It
45:11
was given to her by my mother. Oh,
45:14
by her mother. My nana
45:16
had no daughters of her own and I
45:18
was the only girl of her 11 children,
45:20
grandchildren. So she gave it to me. It's
45:23
a full bone china set. Bone
45:27
china set? What
45:30
makes it a bone china set? Interesting.
45:33
Cuban bones? I don't think so. Made it
45:36
to China. I
45:38
don't know if it has monetary value
45:41
but its sentimental value is immeasurable. I
45:43
have had it, kept it, used it
45:45
for nearly 28 years. Wow.
45:49
I wanted to pass it down to my own
45:51
daughter or granddaughter one day. My husband knows all
45:54
of this. I'm really worried about
45:56
this tea set. I'm really
45:58
worried about this tea set. What do you mean? It
46:00
sounds like it's going to be fine. I'm
46:02
so worried about this tea set. Her
46:05
sister and her family came to stay with us for
46:07
a week. Whenever I'll have little girls over, I pull
46:09
out my tea set for a tea party. I
46:12
make tea sandwiches, scones, cakes, biscuits.
46:15
My Nana made tea parties a big deal
46:17
with me, and I carry that on. So
46:20
me and my sister-in-law and her daughter had
46:22
an afternoon tea party. It was
46:24
a couple of weeks after that I had my friend
46:26
and her daughters coming to visit. I
46:28
planned a tea party. Morning
46:30
of, I baked my sandwich, made sandwiches,
46:32
went to pull my tea set out,
46:34
and it was gone. This
46:37
is so messed up. This is so messed
46:39
up. He took something that
46:42
she uses all the time. Or
46:45
he was going
46:47
to go clean it. Mm,
46:50
we'll find out. I
46:52
kept it in a cabinet in my kitchen. I
46:54
wash it and put it away every
46:56
time until the next time. Nevermind.
47:00
Mm, and put it, I
47:02
went a little mad looking for it. The visit
47:04
came and went. I spent
47:06
days tearing my house apart looking for it. Every
47:09
cabinet drawer covered. The whole house
47:11
was turned inside out. My
47:14
husband even helped me. No,
47:16
he helped her. He
47:18
helped her. This
47:21
is unbelievable. He was insistent
47:23
that it couldn't have grown feet and
47:25
walked away on its own. Not the
47:27
gaslighting. No, no, no. Oh,
47:30
that's funny. It looks like you have feet and
47:32
hands and you could have taken it from there.
47:34
And a thieving spirit. That's
47:37
what gets to me. He knew
47:39
damn well where it was, but he
47:41
pretended that I had misplaced it. He
47:44
knew how upset I was and tried to comfort me
47:46
with the promises to buy me a new set, as
47:49
though a new set could replace my nana.
47:52
A few weeks later, he came home with a
47:54
cheap, thin looking set that he had bought at
47:56
Walmart or something. I threw it in the bin.
47:59
Call me ungrateful if you have a new set. you want I don't
48:01
care I wasn't grateful something
48:03
you treasure something of great sentimental value
48:05
given to you by your long dead
48:07
Nana cannot be replaced no matter how
48:09
much or little in this case the
48:12
replacement costs Oh guess
48:16
what Sophia what
48:19
oh my goodness was that
48:21
Kristen for a hat yeah gifted memberships
48:24
look at you guys go
48:26
you're incredible constantly
48:28
raising the bar for us all and
48:31
thank you Jojo 45 for the 25th 25 buck
48:34
tip happy Friday worms and
48:37
then lastly they are maybe not lastly Heidi Browning
48:39
thank you for the one buck tip Sophia could
48:42
be the lead of my girlfriend is an alien
48:44
the alien race reacts to testosterone like we
48:47
do to a very addictive drugs so
48:50
anytime she sees a hot nail she sniffing
48:52
them and trying to feel them up
48:54
oh my gosh yes what
48:56
are you talking about every time there's
48:59
a guy on the movie you're like
49:01
funny and it makes you squirbe
49:03
and it's funny to do that it
49:05
is pretty hilarious and I do
49:07
stop like I don't actually care
49:10
what ah okay I doubt that
49:12
if you were to see her in the
49:14
movie theater she's like that
49:16
is not true I'm laughing you I'm going
49:21
because it's funny
49:24
y'all crazy blushing now she knows
49:26
look at her look at the
49:28
blush that's just
49:30
my blush on my cheeks I put it on
49:32
them this morning anyway Courtney thanks
49:35
for the 10-buck tip y'all are the best
49:37
you're the best best
49:39
lady Morgan thank you for the one the
49:42
two buck tip and thank you
49:44
blamify for the 10-buck tip just got
49:47
here hoping for another hour at your wish is
49:49
granted all hail the
49:51
worm queen the pigeon army stands no
49:53
chance all right all right
49:57
you're right and you should say it I
50:00
feel like this is like my I need a crown and
50:02
this is my septa. Yeah Yeah,
50:06
you know what you know what scepter is right? Okay.
50:09
It's like a It's
50:11
like a whether they call it the cane kind
50:13
of thing like a royal cane.
50:15
Oh John has one of those But
50:19
it's like a regular game
50:21
then I heard my husband on the phone Hello,
50:25
I Heard him
50:27
say that when we visit to put it
50:29
away and tell Mellie not to mention it
50:31
because I'm still upset about it He
50:33
didn't say the words he said that
50:36
I knew I knew That's
50:39
what he was talking about. I walked
50:41
in while he was still on the phone and called him
50:43
a thief He
50:46
was like a deer in headlights. He quickly
50:48
hung up and tried to explain. I
50:51
wouldn't hear it. I Told
50:54
him to get it back his sister called me
50:56
and I called her a thief I
50:58
told her to return it in the same condition She
51:00
took it or I would be calling the police then
51:03
I hung up on her My husband
51:05
tried reasoning with me. He told me his
51:07
niece loved it so much and that that
51:10
kind of thing is really is for little girls It's
51:14
a tea set What
51:17
how is it just for little girls? Adults
51:20
have tea. Yeah, if you don't see movies, they
51:22
have tea all the time in the British stuff.
51:24
Yeah, what are you talking about? He
51:26
said he was going to talk to me about leaving it
51:28
to her anyway. So where is the harm that she is
51:30
it now? He said
51:32
I was too old to be playing around with
51:34
kids toys What
51:37
you are also too old to be
51:40
taking toys. Yeah away from people And
51:44
I really should grow up he said I
51:46
was immature and it means nothing when he
51:48
meant what he meant Is that it means
51:51
nothing to him? So I should forget it
51:53
divorce this man divorce this man
51:55
He is a thief and a scoundrel Jellbus
51:58
Jellbus says it Heirloom
52:00
Real Bone China. Yeah.
52:04
Obviously this means something and is important
52:06
to OP. And
52:08
it is outrageous. This man would steal it
52:11
and then gaslight her about it. The
52:14
next day, I not only went to the
52:16
police to report the theft, I also called
52:18
my brother who lives in the same city
52:20
as my husband's sister. My
52:23
brother went around and got my peace
52:25
set. My husband was livid and spent
52:27
a couple of days calling me a
52:29
lot of derogatory names. His tune
52:31
changed when he came home to find me packing
52:33
my stuff. He stole from me,
52:36
pretended he didn't know anything about it,
52:38
insulted me, tried
52:41
to gaslight me, and now he's saying how
52:43
sorry is and that we can work this
52:46
out? I don't think we can.
52:48
I look at him and see someone who
52:50
steals from me, lies to me, makes me
52:53
feel small, someone untrustworthy, who doesn't
52:55
care about me. Yeah, we're
52:58
a minion, says divorce and press
53:00
charges. I've
53:03
been told that I'm an A-hole to leave
53:05
him over a tea set but it's not
53:07
just a tea set. It's my Nana's history,
53:09
it's my history, it's years of happy memories
53:11
with my mother and other female relatives and
53:14
friends. He stole all that from
53:16
me when he gave it away. Am
53:18
I the A-hole for calling it quits?
53:21
No. OP, you are. Hondo
53:24
percent, not the A-hole. You're good.
53:26
Not like, he
53:30
stole, he got slighted ya. He
53:34
insulted ya. He's
53:36
the worst. That's crazy. And
53:40
then he has the audacity to be like
53:42
it didn't mean anything. You don't
53:44
get to, you don't get to like decide
53:48
what has meaning for people that are not you.
53:52
Like if Riley, if you really
53:55
liked that tape measure and
53:58
you're like this is sentimental value. for me. My
54:01
grandfather got it for me. And
54:03
I was like, no, it doesn't. That would
54:05
make me an A-hole. And
54:07
that's what he did. Oh, if you
54:09
said like Guitar Hero's stupid. Yeah. Or
54:12
like took it away and like sold it. Yeah, I
54:14
sold it. That would be... And you were like, but that
54:16
was mine and it meant a lot to me. And I'm like,
54:18
well, it doesn't mean anything to me. So it
54:21
can't mean anything to you. Wow. Yeah, no, you're the
54:23
A-hole if you did that. Yeah. Yeah.
54:25
Wow. Pigeon Proselytizer says, dump him. Some
54:27
people see things as just things and
54:29
some people see things as personal history.
54:32
Give away your own stuff. Opie's husband. Yeah.
54:35
Give away the husband. More like it. Uh.
54:39
Also, change the TLDR. Uh.
54:43
Guys, I'm so sorry. Okay. We have to change
54:45
it again. Because we're
54:47
moving on to the next story. And
54:49
we have
54:52
449 likes and 842 people here. Guys,
54:57
please. Jay? Jay? Why?
55:01
Jay? What is making you from
55:03
like doing one of these? What's stopping you from doing... What's
55:07
stopping you? Or
55:09
you can use one of these. Uh. Or
55:11
if you're feeling funky. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Pinky
55:14
action. Ooh, get creative.
55:16
Get creative. Maybe a two finger. Like
55:18
a uh. Okay. What else?
55:21
What else? Uh. I'm
55:23
trying to find the story. Uh.
55:27
Whoa. Okay. Or like a uh. What
55:31
other body parts could you use? I
55:33
don't know about that. Your nose. Uh.
55:36
Your elbow. Mmm. Your
55:38
toes. I won't show this to you. Don't
55:41
do that. Don't do that. Okay, we're good now. Bam.
55:44
We're ready to start this next
55:46
story. What's the score? Okie dokie.
55:48
I'm already on that. Uh.
55:50
We got some donations. Do we now? Uh.
55:52
Ted, Ed, and Lime Juice. Thank you for
55:55
the one buck tip. I'm. Oh. You read
55:57
it. You read it. You
55:59
have it. Oh, yeah.
56:02
Oh. You
56:05
can read it. You read it. Okay. I'm
56:08
pretty sure I was the first one to say the
56:10
name Bones that's still up for debate. And
56:12
it's a really cool name and I've
56:14
chosen it for our wonderful little worm.
56:16
Yes. Agreed. Not
56:19
confirmed yet. Thank you, Ted. I think
56:21
it's confirmed. Bones. My
56:23
other option was boneless, like toothless? Yeah.
56:28
What if I want to name it? You can. Hey,
56:30
worm. Martika Waterman, thank you for
56:32
the one buck tip. Riley, be nice to John.
56:35
There's going to be a day that you're going
56:37
to be his age or older. I know it's
56:39
all fun, but nice. Also, my
56:41
son said be nice to John. That's his
56:43
favorite. LOL, I'm older than
56:45
all of you. LOL, back to my video
56:47
game. Lol. Yeah, I probably should stop.
56:49
I don't know if you can handle it. At
56:53
his age. Damn. Damn, I
56:55
was waiting. I was like, what's happening? What's he going to
56:57
do? And he got me. Well,
57:00
he got John, I suppose. Oof. He's
57:02
not listening. He can't hear me. Can
57:04
you scroll up? I
57:07
knew that water. Sam was supposed to get water. Help!
57:11
Water! That
57:14
echoed. Titania, thank you for
57:16
celebrating your one month of memberships.
57:19
Tell that horrible man that he can
57:21
find something more mature to lie and
57:23
steal. Oh, he can find someone
57:25
more mature to lie and steal
57:28
from, not the A-hole. Oh,
57:30
because he was like, you're immature for caring about a tea
57:32
set. Yeah. If you want
57:34
someone more mature, go, I don't know, go
57:37
steal some. You could be like
57:39
that Tinder date that stole perfume from someone. You
57:42
remember that? Stole perfume? Yeah, I do remember
57:44
that. My voice is so dry. I
57:46
yelled. But
57:48
let's get into this story. Am
57:52
I the A-hole for refusing to donate my
57:54
hair to my aunt with cancer? Was
57:59
she asking for all? your hair? How
58:01
much hair was she asking for? Were you
58:04
already cutting it? What are the extenuating
58:06
circumstances? So,
58:10
donate hair throwaway says, for
58:13
context I'm adopted and have super
58:15
long and very thick red hair.
58:18
No one in my adopted family has hair like
58:20
mine and it's been kind of a thing for
58:22
them to touch, admire and talk about my hair
58:25
at family gatherings since I was a kid. Don't
58:27
touch other people's hair. Don't do
58:29
that unless they ask you to. Stop it.
58:33
My aunt has lung cancer and it's really taken a
58:35
toll on her. She's lost all
58:37
her hair and has talked about getting a
58:39
wig but they're too expensive and she says
58:41
she wants real hair. My
58:43
mom suggested I donate my hair to make a
58:45
wig for my aunt at Easter dinner and
58:48
my aunt got so excited she started
58:50
crying. Hold up! That
58:52
is so messed up. The
58:55
mom didn't even ask OP on her own. She
58:57
brought it up in front of everyone. She's
59:00
trying to like guilt her into doing
59:02
this. This is messed up. I
59:07
felt horrible about it and didn't say anything. We
59:09
went to this wig place and the lady said
59:11
she could make a shoulder length wig for my
59:13
aunt using my hair. I keep
59:16
it up extremely well and it's
59:18
down to my knees. Wow that's
59:20
all I'm hearing. My aunt
59:22
started crying again and again and I
59:24
feel so awful but I really don't
59:26
want to part with my hair. I
59:29
know it grows back but still no
59:31
one has asked me how I felt but I think
59:33
my mom could tell I wasn't very excited about it
59:35
because she asked the lady if she could donate her
59:37
own hair. Thank you very much. Thank you very much.
59:44
Just told me thank you. All
59:50
right I'm good now. I'm moist and Anyway,
1:00:01
so where
1:00:04
was I? Because
1:00:07
she asked the lady if she could
1:00:09
donate her own hair and she said
1:00:11
she'd need both my sister, mom's biological
1:00:13
daughter and my mom
1:00:15
to donate their hair since it's very thin
1:00:18
and she could only make
1:00:20
a chin length wig with
1:00:22
it. My aunt also wants red
1:00:24
hair so the lady said she'd have to
1:00:26
dye it and that would cause it damage
1:00:28
and cost more than using my hair. My
1:00:31
uncle then said it'd make much more sense to use
1:00:33
mine. You can't just take
1:00:36
someone's hair. Wait so she
1:00:39
was like I
1:00:41
need your hair, mom's hair, ancestors hair?
1:00:47
Oh so
1:00:49
she was saying that basically either we could
1:00:52
use OP's hair because it's
1:00:54
thicker and longer or if
1:00:56
we use the mom's hair like OP's
1:00:58
mom's hair it wouldn't be thick
1:01:00
enough to use on her own so
1:01:02
you she would have to use both the mom
1:01:04
and the mom's biological daughter and
1:01:07
then also have to dye it because it goes
1:01:10
on wants red hair. I think
1:01:13
the aunt is being a little too picky like
1:01:16
she can't just use people's hair that don't
1:01:18
want to give their hair just
1:01:21
because she likes the
1:01:24
color. It's been a month
1:01:26
and my aunt wants to know when
1:01:28
we can make the appointment. So presumptuous.
1:01:30
I don't know what to
1:01:32
do. I told my sister and she called me
1:01:35
ungrateful and told me to stop being selfish because
1:01:37
it would grow back. If I'm
1:01:39
the a-hole I won't hesitate to donate it but
1:01:41
I don't know anymore. In the
1:01:43
edit people suggested I clarify I have knee-length
1:01:46
hair and I'd have to cut it all
1:01:48
off to the scalp in
1:01:50
order to make the wig. What? There's
1:01:55
not much hair that's crazy. Just to shave
1:01:57
off basically shave off her hair.
1:02:00
It's years. You
1:02:02
cannot ask someone to do that,
1:02:05
especially when it seems like OP
1:02:07
cares deeply. Her hair is a
1:02:09
part of herself. But
1:02:11
that's why the aunt wants it because she
1:02:14
cares so deeply about it. It's like, I'll care
1:02:16
so deeply about it too. Yeah, but that's, yeah.
1:02:18
A Gabby B says aunt should
1:02:20
remember beggars can't be choosers. Yeah,
1:02:22
she can't just be
1:02:24
super picky about the hair. To
1:02:28
all the people saying it doesn't take that much
1:02:31
hair to make a wig, it does. One
1:02:33
average donation of hair doesn't make a full
1:02:36
wig. They match it with other donations. It
1:02:38
usually takes two to three heads of hair
1:02:40
for a full wig. Mine
1:02:43
is long enough on its own for a full
1:02:45
wig and my aunt doesn't want synthetic hair mixed
1:02:47
in to supplement it. I completely
1:02:49
understand everyone that said I was the a-hole
1:02:51
for not saying no in the beginning. I'm
1:02:54
not trying to justify that, but I want to
1:02:56
make it clear that's extremely difficult for
1:02:58
me to stand up to my family. I
1:03:01
don't think I've ever had a say in anything since
1:03:03
I started living with them and that's how it's always
1:03:05
been. They never give me a
1:03:07
voice even though I should have spoken up.
1:03:09
It always goes without saying that what my
1:03:11
mom says will happen. And
1:03:15
there are some relevant comments and
1:03:17
an update. But let's
1:03:20
get into what y'all think. What are
1:03:23
y'all thinking? Because I think this
1:03:25
is pretty easy. I think it's not the a-hole. Kristy
1:03:29
Steele says OP is probably gorgeous and
1:03:31
they're all jealous. We
1:03:33
know that OP was adopted so I
1:03:35
feel like there might be some kind
1:03:37
of othering going on like the family
1:03:39
is othering OP and making her
1:03:41
a bit of an outsider or making her feel that
1:03:43
way. Devil Girl says I can
1:03:45
understand why the aunt would want the
1:03:48
wig and such but OP should be doing this
1:03:50
of her free will. Yeah, it shouldn't be an
1:03:52
expectation. It should be a
1:03:54
gift given freely. And
1:03:57
Logan Bagwulf says people freeze up all the time. That's
1:03:59
not on her. Also
1:04:01
again, her whole family at
1:04:03
dinner all together said, hey,
1:04:06
OP, give your hair. That's
1:04:09
like, how do you say no in that circumstance?
1:04:11
That's really hard. Maggie
1:04:15
says, I would literally rather shave my eyebrows than
1:04:17
my head. It's crazy they want her to do
1:04:19
that. No, for a lot
1:04:21
of women, hair is a big part of
1:04:24
our sense of self, which is not to say that,
1:04:26
you know. I agree. It
1:04:31
is your self, but it does
1:04:33
change how people feel about themselves.
1:04:35
And to tell a woman
1:04:38
who has knee length hair that she
1:04:40
has to shave her head or cut
1:04:42
all of her hair off is pretty
1:04:44
hard to deal with. Wait,
1:04:51
can you scroll down? Wait,
1:04:53
scroll up. Lady
1:04:57
Morgan says, I'm wondering how old OP is too. I
1:05:00
don't know. It seems like she's
1:05:02
under, oh, I think she's under 18. Under
1:05:05
18? Because she's living
1:05:07
with her family. Oh, well, I would say
1:05:09
like in her 20s, maybe like going to
1:05:11
college or something like that. Did
1:05:13
they say anything about college? For
1:05:16
the month. Okay,
1:05:19
Riley says college, I think she's under 18. But
1:05:22
let's get into these relevant comments. Deleted
1:05:27
says, not the a-hole, but you have to
1:05:29
stop stringing your aunt along. Tell
1:05:31
them that you are feeling pressured and it's making
1:05:34
you uncomfortable and you aren't going to donate your
1:05:36
hair. It was completely inappropriate of your mom to
1:05:38
donate your hair for you in the presence of
1:05:40
the aunt. OP says, I
1:05:42
do really wanna tell her no and not get
1:05:44
her hopes up anymore. It's just that she got
1:05:47
so excited the moment my mom suggested it. I
1:05:49
can't figure out how to tell her and
1:05:51
I'm afraid I'm in the wrong. So I
1:05:53
haven't told her anything. Also,
1:05:55
I feel like, well,
1:05:58
yeah, obviously there's the ex-addiction. The
1:06:00
expectation that she just has to donate. That says, not
1:06:02
really getting at it like. Yeah.
1:06:04
Not getting any other anything out of the souza supposed
1:06:06
to do it out of the kindness of her heart.
1:06:09
But. She doesn't even like. He was
1:06:11
even asked. Ah, not
1:06:13
an Npc. Sixty Nine says not the a
1:06:15
whole Jesus Christ. I can feel your stress.
1:06:17
Through the screen. Oh pieces
1:06:20
honestly, I don't know what to do at all.
1:06:22
It's kind of terrifying. I know it's I'm stupid,
1:06:24
but my hair's the only thing I have that
1:06:26
I feel is connected with my birth family. I
1:06:28
love my family, but I have a weird thing
1:06:30
with my hair. I know it grows back those.
1:06:32
The that something. And
1:06:34
then S J S as a
1:06:37
base of zero says I also
1:06:39
a natural red hair. It's extremely
1:06:41
long. Term.
1:06:49
It's extremely long. Maybe
1:06:52
not quite as much as yours and I
1:06:54
honestly started sweating to thinking about this. I
1:06:57
get that it's a very selfless thing to
1:06:59
do, but there are decent quality synthetic wigs
1:07:01
that put no one in an awkward position.
1:07:04
I consider my hair to be a vital part
1:07:06
of my identity. It ties me to my gran,
1:07:08
as I have inherited the color from her. If.
1:07:11
Anyone asks me about their comment is
1:07:13
always. Oh the girl with a long
1:07:15
red hair. I
1:07:18
think because so few people naturally have
1:07:20
red hair, they don't realize how important
1:07:22
it becomes. do your own identity and
1:07:24
not lie. Folks are seriously weird about
1:07:26
red hair. Not the a whole. I.
1:07:28
Understand you completely. And
1:07:31
Opie says thank you so much the
1:07:33
comments and how old is Opie? I
1:07:36
was right. I. Turned seventeen
1:07:38
weeks a few weeks ago. I
1:07:40
was adopted when I was a southern I
1:07:42
when I was seven and I don't really
1:07:44
know why my parents gave me up or
1:07:47
anything about them, so there's no contact until
1:07:49
I turned eighteen. I'm really grateful
1:07:51
to my mother for adopting me and taking
1:07:53
care of me, but I feel so awful.
1:07:55
About the situation. And.
1:07:57
There is an update. To.
1:08:00
They'd later is yours either. Inquest:
1:08:04
He was adopted. Michigan is.
1:08:06
Are here to. It's
1:08:09
all been leaving to those moments.
1:08:11
Yeah, I'm Missy Birds as it's
1:08:13
just hair. it'll grow back So
1:08:15
the Us. so why should? Oh
1:08:17
Pico balls. Dad. This, it seems
1:08:19
like that kind of a double standard Here
1:08:22
are. Is Catholicism? Her hair is part
1:08:24
of her identity. Telling her to donate
1:08:26
is awful. And the know
1:08:28
me says they can all putin and by the
1:08:30
on a real Wags and the second monkeys as
1:08:32
I had a really long hair when I was
1:08:35
younger but how to cut it off and as
1:08:37
they are just there to put the hair into
1:08:39
a bag because my hair meant a lot to
1:08:41
me Now I cut all my hair. Ah,
1:08:44
Every three years yet here to be very
1:08:46
important people. Ah, and think
1:08:48
you since does. For the for Fifty
1:08:51
Nine donation, there are organizations that donate
1:08:53
leagues from other patients in remission. I.
1:08:56
Feel like there are other. Other
1:08:58
routes that they couldn't go before they
1:09:01
make this girl color hair off. Lydia.
1:09:03
Whitaker think that three forty donation
1:09:06
definitely not the a whole. Yeah.
1:09:09
Definitely. Not. Very sure I'm. Aware
1:09:12
of roots, Do makes.
1:09:15
Have you want was. No.
1:09:18
Rude you ever were rid. Of
1:09:25
the video. Was. A
1:09:27
Let's get into this update. Thanks.
1:09:30
To who commented and especially those who
1:09:32
offered to help with sending me there
1:09:34
wigs. I've talked to my mom about
1:09:36
it and she said we could have
1:09:38
bought hair from anyone that this is
1:09:40
special to your aunt because it's your
1:09:42
hair but it's hard out. That's
1:09:45
the point is her hair seek it's
1:09:47
decide. Though.
1:09:49
I decided to just go ahead
1:09:51
and do it. I.
1:09:55
Feel so bad for her. Or to
1:09:57
the all she. Was bullied into this.
1:10:00
I feel was. Drooling.
1:10:02
She owes its own because they adopted our.
1:10:05
Oh. The. Cell is
1:10:07
not cool Oh boo
1:10:09
boos the chat blue.
1:10:13
Of family. Ah, Nosing
1:10:16
he family, Ah,
1:10:20
I salts after reading all the your
1:10:22
the able comments who is going lpt
1:10:24
a whole. List do
1:10:26
the right to hold. A seventeen year
1:10:28
old girl and a whole for not wanting
1:10:30
to caught all over hair. Off the people
1:10:33
just like to comment been things. And.
1:10:35
That's literally get off. League the
1:10:37
fact that she's seventeen years old is
1:10:39
even more I, they even more is
1:10:42
a. Lead. Signal.
1:10:44
To me that you should not maker cut off her
1:10:46
hair. To. Is one like. Impressionable.
1:10:49
To the desires of her parents
1:10:51
and is wanting to follow like
1:10:53
what they ask her. But.
1:10:56
Also like. Hair. Is so
1:10:58
significant? A teenage girls. That
1:11:01
ah. Hit Assembly. We
1:11:04
want to the salon yesterday. Oh.
1:11:06
Wait, sorry I saw the I We went to the
1:11:09
sign yesterday. I. Cried.
1:11:12
I have a really gross a hipster crew
1:11:14
cut now. My.
1:11:16
Aunt was so happy They told her he
1:11:18
wouldn't be ready for a few months so
1:11:20
she bought a blonde wig. Are
1:11:23
You Kidding me? Are.
1:11:25
You Kidding me? She could
1:11:27
have bought the way you the whole time. To
1:11:30
told the she's going to alternate between the
1:11:33
blonde wig and my wig to matter outfits.
1:11:39
I hate this woman so much. I
1:11:43
don't even care of the sound selfish anymore
1:11:45
because I did what they wanted. I hate
1:11:47
not having my hair. I look like a
1:11:49
boy now. I hope that happiness that wig
1:11:51
brought my aunt hopes are get through the
1:11:53
cancer but it won't because she is going
1:11:55
to keep smoking as he survives this Anyways,
1:11:57
I don't know how I feel about anything
1:11:59
but I miss my hair. My mom is
1:12:01
really happy though, so as my aunt so
1:12:03
hopefully I'll just get over my hair. I
1:12:05
don't know. His
1:12:08
aunt. Sucks. And
1:12:10
I feel so bad that she went. That's yeah
1:12:12
to go through this. That.
1:12:15
Swords or do not believe the are
1:12:17
the worst thing. Amateur and on. The.
1:12:19
Worst thing is her alternating the wigs.
1:12:23
The. What's the matter else to say? You know
1:12:25
that.the. worst thing? The fact that she said
1:12:27
specifically, oh, I have to match my outfits
1:12:29
to my wigs. Your.
1:12:32
Nieces. Gave up her air
1:12:34
which meant a lot to hurt so
1:12:36
you couldn't match your hair to you.
1:12:39
I'll sit and like the fact that
1:12:41
she's like. A. Minor
1:12:43
soon young she has no other are there
1:12:45
would probably would guilt trip or and to
1:12:47
probably. So. What They did it. Up. Just.
1:12:50
Let us know we're gonna do and they wield Scepter.
1:12:53
So. As
1:12:56
is like. Oh. My God I hate
1:12:58
everyone I hit the family and I and everyone
1:13:00
in the comments he said that Opie was in
1:13:02
a whole. He's. Up. And
1:13:05
your they will. Oh God.
1:13:08
Knows out doctor. is there anything we can
1:13:10
do to save our boys? I. Not
1:13:14
never knew stores. There's only
1:13:16
one way to do that.
1:13:18
You listening right now to
1:13:20
kill profiles. Really
1:13:23
sorry. I'm
1:13:27
so sorry. your podcasts reserve bird
1:13:29
dogs were dogs. Rate of five
1:13:32
stars or will haunt you for
1:13:34
of ours. Do it.
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