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0:09
Alrighty friends, I'm excited for today's topic.
0:11
It may get a little bit exciting,
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a little bit controversial. You know, I
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love the episodes where I get to
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be really actionable and practical with
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you like our episode last week when we talked about
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wheat berries and all of that. I
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also love the episodes where I can get a
0:27
little more high level and we can look at
0:29
different trends and patterns in
0:31
the Homestead Movement. I have a vested interest
0:33
in the movement because I was
0:35
one of the first people to start talking about
0:37
this online. I'm not saying I invented it by
0:39
any means, right? But
0:41
I had one of the first Homestead blogs,
0:44
one of the first people to start doing
0:46
all these crazy old fashioned things publicly. So
0:48
I'm always interested in patterns and trends and
0:50
perceptions and where things are going. And I've
0:53
seen a big pattern emerge lately, mostly
0:55
through conversations I've had online and
0:57
in person, but
1:01
it's a little bit concerning to me. Primarily,
1:03
because what I'm seeing happen is
1:05
people are being actively pushed away
1:08
from the Homestead Movement and
1:10
the idea of growing their own
1:12
food and being a creator versus
1:15
a consumer and living more
1:17
intentional because somehow,
1:19
thank you, internet, that
1:21
idea of skills and that group
1:23
of concepts has somehow become tangled
1:26
up in the idea of
1:28
conspiracy and paranoia. And
1:31
I even had someone say, hey, I didn't listen to
1:33
your podcast forever because I just assumed that you fell
1:35
into that bucket. And then I listened to it, I
1:37
realized you don't and it was so refreshing, blah, blah,
1:39
blah. But I'm like, oh, how many other people are
1:42
feeling drawn intrinsically? We
1:44
know humans are supposed to be drawn
1:47
into this idea of being more connected
1:49
to land, community and themselves, but this
1:52
new connotation around the Homestead lifestyle is making
1:54
them go, oh, no, thank you. So
1:56
I want to break this down today. I think
1:59
it's important I have some thoughts for you and
2:01
probably some surprising revelations that you might not
2:04
see coming. So let's do this. So
2:07
welcome to Old Fashion on Purpose. This is
2:09
the show where we explore what we have
2:11
left behind as we have raced towards progress
2:13
and how we can reclaim all the good
2:15
parts and leave them into our modern
2:17
day-to-day. I'm your host
2:19
Jill Winger and way back in 2008
2:21
I bought a tumbledown farmstead that nobody
2:23
wanted with my husband out here on
2:25
the wide open Wyoming Prairie and we
2:27
turned it into a homestead bit by
2:30
bit and piece by
2:32
piece. And we have now the privilege
2:34
of getting to teach all those skills and all the
2:36
things we learned to the rest of the world and
2:38
that's what I now do here on the podcast, on
2:40
my blog and on my social media accounts. So
2:42
I have a pretty cool gig and I'm
2:44
really thankful for it. So been
2:46
in this world a long time. I've seen homesteading
2:48
go through a lot of iterations. I remember back
2:50
in the day when I didn't
2:53
even know how to describe to people what I
2:55
did because I'd be like, I have a garden
2:57
and I have chickens and I have a milk
2:59
cow and they're like, what? That's
3:01
weird. And they
3:03
would be like, are you doing this commercially?
3:06
I'm like, no, it's personal food production. They're
3:08
like, blank, no comprende, I didn't get
3:10
it. And so I
3:12
love the term homesteading. It's an imperfect
3:15
term. It confuses people sometimes and
3:17
I talked about this on the show before, but
3:19
I still think it's the best way I've
3:21
found just to encapsulate someone who's living old
3:23
fashioned. You're growing your own food, you're not
3:26
necessarily selling it, but you're just trying to
3:28
get back to basics and return to your
3:30
roots. And homesteading is just an easy way
3:32
to try to wrap it up in a single word, even
3:34
though it does have some weaknesses and sometimes
3:36
people think you're doing it on free government
3:38
land or whatever, but whatever. You know what I mean?
3:41
It's just a nice word to describe what people like
3:43
you and I do. So
3:46
it's concerning to me that there's a shift
3:48
around this term because words
3:50
do matter, right? I found
3:53
myself, even though my business
3:55
has traditionally been branded all over the place
3:57
with the word homestead, the Prairie Homestead,
3:59
and my courses all have the word homestead in them,
4:02
I've kind of thought started using it less
4:05
because it makes me a little bit
4:07
uncomfortable sometimes that people just lump it
4:09
together with a certain set of beliefs.
4:13
So before I get any further I want
4:15
to say you know we're going to talk a lot about
4:17
conspiracy theories and those sorts of ideas today. I don't
4:21
like the us versus them mentality. I'm
4:23
not doing this episode to try to
4:26
create division. If you are
4:28
someone who tends to believe in
4:30
more of those things, you follow more of
4:32
those things online and that's your motivations for
4:34
homesteading, you're still welcome here. I'm not trying
4:36
to kick you out of my communities or
4:39
say you're stupid or say you're not welcome.
4:41
Like you're still welcome here. That's my point
4:43
today is not to create these you know
4:45
us versus them but rather I just hope
4:47
that it will help you ask some questions
4:50
and be curious and think through things in
4:52
a different way and maybe at the end
4:54
of this you'll have the same
4:56
beliefs and same ideas and nothing will have changed but
4:58
as long as you dislike consciously thought
5:00
through what you
5:02
believe and why you believe it I think that's
5:05
a really important exercise in all
5:07
of our life not just about today's
5:09
topic. So that's my caveat. I'm not kicking anybody
5:11
out, not pointing fingers, not trying
5:13
to create a war. I just
5:16
am hopeful we can come to this topic
5:18
with an open mind. So since COVID,
5:21
I mean not surprisingly that's when this started
5:23
and I think it started then
5:25
for good reason, you know
5:27
there is an increase with
5:30
people coming to homesteading for
5:32
potentially different motivations than they
5:34
did ten years ago, right?
5:37
They used to be all about the food
5:39
and now we have people really flooding into
5:41
the movement. We've seen so much more interest
5:43
around homesteading after COVID just because things felt
5:45
so shaky and so weird and we have
5:47
supply chain shortages. All of those
5:50
are very normal reasons that people go back to
5:52
the land. We've seen that historically during the Great
5:54
Depression. We've seen it in the 1970s. If you
5:57
have my book Old Fashioned on Purpose, I talk about this.
5:59
is a normal human response to when
6:02
our human structures feel out of whack.
6:04
So I am not surprised that homesteading grew. But
6:07
what I also saw really change during
6:09
that period is there was
6:11
a lot of people coming to it
6:13
with a very fear-based and almost a
6:15
paranoid mindset. And again, I
6:18
get it. COVID with the weird things
6:20
that happen in government and authoritarianism, and
6:23
it was bizarre, the stuff
6:25
that went down and it made everybody question authority
6:27
and question our leaders and
6:29
everything felt like we
6:32
couldn't trust anyone anymore. So I understand. But
6:34
what I see now four years later is
6:36
that fear in paranoia is still
6:38
at an all-time high. And it
6:40
has started to really seep into all
6:43
areas of the homestead movement or more areas than it used
6:45
to. We used to just have a few people on YouTube
6:47
or whatever that were really speaking to that and the rest
6:49
of the world was like, meh. But now
6:51
I'm seeing more and more creators, whether
6:54
it's on social media or YouTube
6:56
or blogs, like really diving
6:59
in deep. And
7:01
I think that's what's really causing people to
7:03
be turned away from the movement. If they don't
7:05
buy into all of those theories, then they feel
7:07
like, I don't belong here. These people aren't for
7:09
me. And I've even seen some of those people
7:11
who believe in the theories really get aggressive. They've
7:14
been aggressive towards me actually, not
7:17
to mention other people, when we don't buy
7:19
into this set of beliefs. So
7:21
I even had someone the other day, and
7:23
this is really what prompted this episode. I
7:26
posted about how you can homestead out
7:28
of different motivations and fear. And she's
7:31
like, it was kind of condescending. She's like,
7:33
aha, whatever. Obviously, you're new here. You'll
7:35
catch on eventually. Kind of alluding to the fact that
7:37
I haven't thought through it yet. And
7:40
that's why I don't believe this set of conspiracies
7:43
yet. And so it got me to
7:45
thinking, and I'm actually like, you know, it's actually the opposite
7:47
that's true. The reason I don't buy into this
7:49
same set of conspiracies and this fear that I
7:52
see that's so prevalent right now is because I've
7:54
actually been there, done
7:56
that, and got the t-shirt already. I
8:00
actually grew up in a
8:02
culture that was very motivated to this
8:04
end. We weren't homesteading, but everyone around
8:07
me believed that the end of the
8:09
world was coming very, very soon. So
8:11
that was a topic of conversation. There
8:14
was a lot of suspicion and distrust
8:16
of government woven in there. I'm not saying that that's
8:18
always a bad thing. I think the government kind of
8:21
just is not great a lot
8:23
of the time. And when humans get into power, things
8:25
get wonky. So I'm not saying that's all bad. But
8:27
that's kind of the cultural I was raised in. Back
8:32
when I was a younger girl, one of
8:34
our Sunday night activities, we'd go
8:36
to church in the morning and come back for
8:38
church in the evening. Like we would watch different
8:40
documentaries occasionally as a church. And a lot of
8:43
them were about this end of the world phenomenon.
8:45
And it would depict all of these horrible things
8:47
that were going to just befall people. And I
8:49
remember one where people's heads were getting chopped off
8:51
and families were being torn apart and there was
8:54
mass killings and black
8:56
helicopters. Like we were all
8:58
sitting there in these little girls dresses watching these documentaries
9:00
in church. So
9:03
many nightmares after that. Like I've talked to so
9:05
many other people who watched similar things
9:07
in the 90s. That was like a 90s church
9:09
culture thing. I'm not really sure why. But
9:11
like, you know, persistent nightmares after
9:13
that. As a teenager,
9:15
we prepped for Y2K because we didn't know it
9:17
was going to happen, which, you know, I don't
9:20
feel like that's all bad. But we
9:22
had buckets of rice and beans in our
9:24
basement and we watched the TV as we
9:27
started to hit midnight around the world and we were
9:29
waiting for all the lights to go out and all
9:31
the technology to go away. And
9:33
even the area of North Idaho where I grew
9:35
up, like a ton of people moved to that
9:37
area to live in the woods and they made
9:39
bunkers and forts and all sorts of structures
9:42
because they thought Y2K was the end of the world.
9:44
And so we were ready and it felt normal to
9:46
me to prepare for that. It also was a
9:49
little anticlimactic when we realized like,
9:51
oh, well, these places all hit midnight.
9:53
Nothing happened. So moving on, like
9:56
this normal again. Even
9:58
after I moved away from home. I
10:00
still just was positively surrounded by people who
10:03
believe this end of the world was imminent.
10:05
And that even people, and I saw this
10:07
a lot and I think it's hard for
10:09
people to admit this, but
10:12
like they were kind of hoping it would happen because then
10:14
they could, you know, shoot, they would always say,
10:16
I'm going to shoot the UN peacekeepers and I don't really know where they
10:18
got that. But that was like a big thing. And I have my bunker
10:20
and I have my guns and I'm going to do this. And if someone
10:22
tries to take away my guns, this is what I'm going to do. And
10:24
there was like this such this, we would
10:26
talk about that over lunch. Like it was a
10:28
normal topic of conversation. Like obviously this
10:31
is happening soon and now I
10:33
can kind of do whatever I want and
10:35
justify whatever actions because it's the end of the world
10:37
and there is no rules anymore. And
10:39
again, that was normal to me and
10:42
I was constantly surrounded by that. So
10:45
I see a lot of different conspiratorial
10:48
beliefs come and go throughout
10:50
the decades. And it's funny because the ones
10:52
that were such a big deal back in
10:54
the 90s that felt so imminent are now
10:56
like forgotten. And now we have a whole
10:58
new set of conspiratorial beliefs that we think
11:00
are like the thing and they're so real
11:02
and they're so accurate. And I
11:05
think the biggest thing that kind of started to
11:07
pull me out of that culture and really changed
11:09
my mind is to see how
11:11
cyclical it was. Right. And
11:13
seeing that, oh, well, we
11:16
all believe that thing to happen then, but it
11:18
didn't. And now we're onto a new thing and
11:21
it's just like kind of replacing one
11:23
for the other. And
11:26
when you start to understand those cycles, not just of
11:28
those sorts of beliefs, but
11:30
just about economies and nations
11:33
and governments in general, it's
11:35
kind of reassuring in an odd way. And I
11:37
think one of our biggest issues right now as
11:41
a culture, because we're all kind of
11:43
wound up tight right now, I think
11:45
that our worldview is so tiny
11:47
and we have this idea that we're
11:49
like the most important time in
11:51
history and it all is pivoting around our
11:53
little era, which is so short in the
11:55
grand scheme of things. And when we start
11:57
to get hyper-focused like that, Get
12:00
pretty skewed. I'm. We
12:03
think our era is just so
12:05
novel in so unprecedented as actually
12:07
not. Pretty. Precedented if you want
12:10
to be honest, So I'm
12:12
one of the ways that I've
12:14
really. As. If he did myself. About
12:16
this is centered bucks ago and I love
12:19
to read. Ah, here's a few examples of
12:21
you guys wanted to add dig into this
12:23
little deeper. So I'm right now listening to
12:25
a book called Pill Writer by Laura Linney
12:27
And it's about the Spanish Flu Than eighteen
12:29
eighteen flu epidemic. Fascinating.
12:32
I'm. So fascinating. I
12:35
mean obviously lots of anecdotes and there, but like
12:37
the party just blew my mind was a she
12:39
was talking about the government response to the flu,
12:41
the people's response to the flu. The.
12:43
Conspiracy of the People Created or snuff
12:45
Will could. that was scary. And it was.
12:47
You know? Bizarre. To them on
12:50
it. and honestly it was so.
12:52
That. On. I stopped the
12:54
book audio book and i with google
12:56
to see when it was written had
12:59
i'm like oh god she had to
13:01
have after cove it. And she's trying
13:03
to prove a poll about quoted. Know.
13:05
It was written in two thousand and seventeen. So.
13:08
It could have been a play about of
13:10
what happened during poll bad thing even had
13:12
a fight back in nineteen eighteen or whenever
13:14
about what to call it and they were
13:16
some an awkward failure Dramatic called it the
13:18
Spanish flu and then other countries are trying
13:20
to call it a flu from another country
13:22
to point is if you remember we did
13:25
the same thing with how that in arguing
13:27
about. What? Hunter It came from a
13:29
what we should name and and if it was offensive
13:31
right like down to that. Ah, we've
13:33
been. Here before, not to
13:35
mention virus in themselves. Are
13:37
cyclical and we can see throughout history as
13:40
it is little and we have recorded. That
13:42
there have been viruses that go
13:44
through and wipe out masses of
13:46
the population. And that just happens
13:49
in humanity. It's just a thing
13:51
that happened and it happens more.
13:53
now. I'm because. We. Are so
13:55
connected to the culturally travel and it doesn't take
13:57
a comet awful. To pop up off the world. Walker
14:00
debate on whether I received from I'm Not. I'm
14:02
not wanting to get into that the day on.
14:05
That is really a moot point. My point is
14:07
that. The. Response to the virus
14:09
which we feel like was so and same with
14:11
it I mean I will admit it felt and
14:13
saying a reports about by didn't like in you
14:15
know I talked about that publicly than the prove
14:17
with how the government's respond to that but it's
14:19
an echo of what has happened in the past
14:21
and I remember so many times. We also this
14:23
is unprecedented and I'm like actually. It
14:25
was President and ah. You
14:28
know it. Unless and year everyone is obsessed
14:30
with the election and Rp want to talk
14:32
about voted completely consuming our focus. On.
14:36
I. Was googling prior election that
14:38
were super dramatic and go google
14:40
the Eighteen Twenty election between John
14:42
Quincy Adams and Andrew Jackson. Kind
14:45
of hilarious. Like epic mud slinging.
14:47
I think maybe even more mudslinging
14:49
that we have now. I'm like
14:51
they were making jokes about each
14:53
other's moms and their wives being
14:56
fat and like. Like
14:58
on that believable. You think that
15:00
people like. John. Adams. Then I'm.
15:03
Andrew Jackson without a little more truth but
15:05
know it was rolling around in the mud
15:07
doing. Whatever. It's up to track. Try to win
15:10
the election. Played super dirty. Everyone
15:12
super wound up about interest. Rates right now
15:14
I get at a high. If you're trying to buy
15:17
homes that it's frustrating. Ah, We've
15:19
actually really recently seen high interest rates before
15:21
Nineteen eighties, right? I think I was googling.
15:23
There were up to sixteen seventeen percent, I
15:25
think is. The highest they bought and came
15:27
back down and they go back up. That. That
15:29
like that. the cycle of economics. And
15:32
Pulsar on. it the
15:34
second happen a lot. right? So.
15:37
I think if we can kind of. See.
15:39
Our place in human history as
15:41
a speck on a timeline. Instead
15:43
of like this magnifying glass, April
15:46
focused on every little detail. I
15:48
think it helps I'm not saying or make our day to
15:50
day. Now. Much easier because the
15:52
reality of the reality of them have another
15:55
wonky election this year. We
15:57
have her into say. I'm you
15:59
know? Fluid. And viruses
16:01
happen. But. I think for me a
16:03
gives me some solace. Know hey this is. Happened.
16:06
Before and part of the bigger cycle. If
16:09
you want them reading. Ah, To
16:11
get into that a little deeper. This two bucks
16:13
they're not easy reads. They are. Books.
16:15
You have to really to your way through. But.
16:18
There's a changing world. Order by rate. I'll yell.
16:20
I. Will admit some it apart really gets
16:22
into the super financial stuff. I. Like
16:24
zone out side fast forward it. But.
16:27
Ah, the man's brilliant with an incredible
16:30
perfect of a governments and economies And
16:32
how this cycle. Added. Another
16:34
and called the Sovereign Individual by
16:36
James Dale David thing. again not
16:38
an easy read that talks about
16:40
cycles back from kind of when
16:42
we started recorded history. When. The
16:44
industrial revolution came. Now we have the
16:47
tech technological revolution and he talks about
16:49
the transition to power and government and
16:51
all of that fascinating. Also.
16:53
Does. He noted me some
16:56
peace to know that it's happened before and
16:58
it happened again. So. I tell you
17:00
all this not because I don't. Believe
17:02
that we. Could be facing. Some.
17:06
City. Times in America? I think
17:08
that possible. And. We.
17:10
Felt the seeking a stirring poll then
17:13
and it could still be continuing. I
17:15
have sued in my basement. If you watch
17:18
my youtube. Video that showed you my book, food
17:20
storage, I was so thankful to have
17:22
that during cold that I didn't see. Supply
17:24
chain saw it is coming and they did
17:26
and I was so grateful that I had
17:29
wheat various and a grinder and. I'm hooked.
17:31
Ohio and Salt in both. I didn't have to
17:33
go to the story like we would have run
17:35
out of food and saw that. Allows us and
17:37
how to com score store. I didn't have to worry
17:39
about it, it was. So awesome and
17:42
so reassuring. I'm. Christian.
17:44
And I have our assets and our finances
17:46
set up in a way that Anna, no
17:49
matter what the economy does, were cushion right
17:51
and might not mean or businesses are riding
17:53
in a certain year if work in the
17:55
middle of a recession. But we have our
17:58
athletes an organized and we have enough. Christian
18:00
and we have enough different diversification of
18:02
what. We're doing that if one part hang it
18:04
not been it is breakers overnight right? For we
18:06
aren't we. Do think about this. Chris
18:08
and I are very much minded to
18:11
be prepared. What I love about home
18:13
setting and I have read this from
18:15
the rooftops is the best part of
18:18
this lifestyle is. When. You can
18:20
see him to it and learn the skills
18:22
and do the thing just for your own
18:24
enjoyment and pleasure and because he loved the
18:26
food and rub the land and rather community.
18:29
The. Side effect of that. Is
18:31
that you are prepared for whatever life
18:33
throws at you. You are more stable,
18:36
you are more resilient, and you're not.
18:38
Losing. Sleep. On.
18:40
Having high blood pressure because of this year
18:42
and the panic and that's what I have
18:44
seen happen. In. Some of the circles I
18:46
have runway. Prior the
18:49
him and a previous life is
18:51
those people who built their entire
18:53
lives on paranoia and conspiracy. That.
18:56
Affected them physically after a while.
18:59
At that meeting physically fill you could see it
19:01
in their bodies. He a see in their faith
19:03
and it makes sense right? if you feel like
19:05
you're gonna have. An. Event:
19:08
The papers for lack of a better, were
19:10
under susan. Acrobats. What people have to say?
19:13
hum to your door it any day and
19:15
take your children and your guns. Like yeah,
19:17
I'm not going to sleep super well either,
19:19
But I think we have to be honest
19:21
with ourselves that maybe we're just working ourselves
19:23
up a little much. So be prepared. Think
19:26
ahead, be wise. But. That doesn't
19:28
mean you have. To be paranoid.
19:30
And another thing that can help me.
19:33
Sit Out Of This. Belief.
19:36
System of Conspiracy The or maybe even
19:38
paranoia that I carried as a younger
19:40
person. Was. It's kind of understanding
19:42
how are human brains work? right?
19:44
And it makes sense when he so to
19:46
understand of pieces why people are so easily
19:49
kind of seduced into movement. Whether.
19:51
It. conspiratorial movements or
19:53
other movements and we have some
19:55
weaknesses are brain of name's a
19:57
belief can a capitalize on So
20:00
a big one, and you probably are familiar with
20:02
this, and it's confirmation bias, right? Another way to
20:04
phrase it is if you look for something, you
20:06
will find it. And
20:08
this works in so many places
20:10
in your life. We
20:14
like to find information that
20:16
is consistent with our existing beliefs, right?
20:20
We all do that. It feels good
20:22
to us. So for example, I recently
20:25
read the book, Bad Therapy by Abigail
20:27
Schreier. It's not on this
20:29
topic at all. It's about parenting and how this epidemic
20:31
of kids not wanting to grow up and being stunted
20:35
loved the book. But one
20:37
of the big reasons I love the book is because it
20:40
validated what I already believed about
20:42
child rery. So I
20:44
love that there's evidence. I love that she's speaking to it, but
20:47
I had to be honest with myself. I'm like, you
20:49
liked it a lot because she's a brilliant woman,
20:51
but also you kind of already agreed with
20:53
it, right? So I
20:55
asked myself a lot with my beliefs of all
20:57
kinds. I love reading things that make me feel
20:59
good about what I already think, but what can I read if
21:01
I'm gonna challenge what I think? That
21:04
doesn't mean I just flip flop silence all
21:06
the time, but it means I'm being open-minded
21:08
and not falling into that confirmation bias trap.
21:11
One of the scariest parts about social media, and
21:13
this has totally happened to me, the
21:16
algorithms are set up for confirmation bias.
21:19
I do not believe this is a
21:21
government plot. I believe it is a
21:23
plot by corporations to make more money
21:25
on social media. So
21:27
if one of the algorithms learn what you like
21:30
and learn what makes you react, whether it's a
21:32
like, a share, or a comment, they're
21:34
gonna show you more of that thing. The algorithms
21:36
are smart enough to do that. They do
21:39
it all the time. So if you
21:41
like a post about, let
21:44
me think of an example that's not too
21:46
dicey here. If you like
21:50
a post about giant green lizards
21:52
living under the Yellowstone volcano,
21:55
then they're gonna show you another post of
21:57
that same theme. And You like that one.
22:00
Misha you more and so you more because
22:02
they want to keep you liking uncommon thing
22:04
and what happened to us you start to
22:06
go oh my gosh every one believe there
22:08
are dying breed mother that living under the
22:11
Yellowstone volcano. We. Are the majority the
22:13
have to be right. This is the only
22:15
way to think about. This is the only
22:17
way to believe, which is the only. The
22:19
case is probably a very small percentage of
22:21
people who actually believes that others have a
22:23
lot of other evidence that opposes that. but
22:25
you're not being so not because of the
22:27
algorithms. so. That the weakness never been
22:29
a weaknesses maybe I the doesn't do that
22:31
on purpose again not to try to her
22:34
our brains. That to try to make more
22:36
money for their corporations are we need understand?
22:38
That. We can discuss really
22:40
fast things to confirmation bias. Another
22:44
principal on that is helpful here
22:46
when you start to get wrapped
22:48
up, are worried about events or.
22:50
Things. Happening And you're watching youtube videos and
22:53
they're claiming that there are these motivations for
22:55
this thing. All the scary thing. Happening. That
22:57
just. Flat out, not everything is a
22:59
conspiracy, and that's one thing that concerns me
23:02
right now. How do you think?
23:04
we'll all. People. And government that don't
23:06
have our best interest in my i do
23:08
think that power corrupts. I. Do think
23:10
that vehicle to the system of government weather
23:12
for Roman empire anywhere else in the world
23:14
over thousands of years like. That
23:17
stuff happen thousand and get. This
23:19
toxic. Will quit So that's not.
23:22
that's not an A conspiracy right? The
23:24
government corruption, But. I'm.
23:28
Really? Sad to see every little thing
23:30
that happens in our culture every Facebook
23:32
as it hits every time on. You
23:35
know, The. A food planetary and
23:37
then they get a lot of he malibu that
23:39
so does hear me out. Every
23:41
every see, every single thing is
23:43
a conspiracy that can. I get
23:46
us into that world of paranoia,
23:48
right? I'm the Outcomes Razor Principle
23:50
is one to smell your eyes
23:52
yourself with and what are comes
23:54
Razors as is the simplest explanation.
23:57
that will account for a circumstance
24:00
or an event is most likely the correct one. I'm
24:03
not saying always, but it's most likely the
24:05
correct one. So could a chicken
24:09
plant burn down because it was
24:11
foul play? Yeah. And there
24:13
could be this incredibly complex web of people
24:15
who report to the president. The president hates
24:17
this and he wants to starve Americans and
24:19
then they he hires these people in like
24:22
black sweatsuits and they go in and they burn
24:24
the chicken plant and then they make it look
24:26
like this and that and then they you know
24:28
stage it so it looks like an accident. That
24:31
could happen. I don't have enough first-hand evidence to
24:33
prove otherwise, but is it
24:35
also possible that factories
24:37
are pretty complex and have a lot of
24:39
moving pieces and some wiring hadn't been updated
24:42
and it caught on fire because that happens
24:44
a lot. That's also possible. So
24:46
again, not speaking to one
24:48
or the other as being the answer.
24:50
I'm just saying let's be open-minded enough
24:53
to consider the more obvious possibilities
24:56
or the most obvious solutions sometimes.
24:58
And then the other psychological principle I wanted
25:00
to bring to your attention and this is
25:03
one you've probably heard of before in concepts
25:05
but maybe not in title. So it's called the
25:07
Biter or the Bader Meinhof
25:09
phenomenon or the frequency illusion. Sounds
25:12
fancy. It's really not. What this is is simply
25:14
that thing, that phenomenon that your brain does to
25:16
you, you know, you buy a new car and
25:19
all of a sudden you see everyone else driving
25:21
that same car and you're like, oh my gosh,
25:23
they're copying me. I have the most popular car
25:25
in the world. We all kind of laugh
25:27
about that because we know that's not the case. We just
25:29
know that now our brains are calibrated to see that car
25:31
because you weren't aware of it before.
25:34
Before you just ignored it, right? It's happened to me
25:36
so many times in so many things. It kind of
25:38
goes back to that confirmation bias. When you look for
25:40
it, you will find it. And
25:42
so if you start to
25:45
look for conspiracies and all
25:47
these crazy signs to tie together
25:49
and all of that, you're
25:52
going to find it. One of my silliest
25:55
examples is years
25:57
ago I did a YouTube video and I did something
25:59
with my... hands. I don't even remember what I did,
26:01
but I had like people commenting on the post. I'm like,
26:04
she's a part of the Illuminati because the way she's holding
26:06
her hands. I'm like, how?
26:09
I didn't know I was a
26:11
part of the Illuminati, but I also maybe just
26:14
accidentally figured out their secret hand symbols. If that's
26:16
the case, they really need to work on
26:18
some better secret hand signals. But
26:21
you know, we start to look for it.
26:23
We're going to find it. When you're hyper
26:25
focused to watch someone's hands, symbols or signals,
26:27
then you're going to see it everywhere. I
26:29
can assure you definitively that
26:31
I am not a member of the Illuminati. FYI,
26:34
just so you know, I'm sure that's what
26:36
they all say, but you know, just
26:38
putting that out there. So anyway, we
26:41
have confirmation bias. We have Occam's raise and we
26:43
have this frequency illusion. And it's just important to
26:45
know our brains are wired to play tricks from
26:47
us sometimes. That's just part of being
26:49
human. We all do it. We all been there,
26:52
done that. Right? And just be aware of that.
26:54
Again, it might not change your mind. And I
26:56
do know that probably not going
26:58
to change anybody's mind from this episode. I
27:00
know if you believe what you believe, you're
27:03
probably going to stick with that. But what I do
27:05
hope that happens is
27:07
that you just maybe hold your beliefs
27:09
with a slightly open hand. You're
27:11
willing to ask questions. And
27:13
maybe you go through that process and you still come
27:15
out the other side with the same beliefs, or
27:18
maybe not. But I think that
27:20
process is so healthy. And it can
27:22
grow us so much and help us
27:24
mature as humans to just
27:27
ask better questions and be curious
27:29
instead of being stuck in our
27:31
ways. So I
27:34
don't know what the next 10 years holds.
27:36
I'm not predicting anything. I feel
27:38
like I'm ready for whatever, good
27:40
or bad. It would
27:43
seem that according to the books I've read, the
27:45
different cycles and empires and nations, America
27:47
could be on a decline of sorts.
27:49
I'm not saying it's a World War
27:51
3 situation necessarily. I don't
27:53
really think that it's a
27:56
top secret group of people
27:58
who are living in a bunker. somewhere orchestrating
28:00
everything like puppets, that just doesn't feel
28:03
plausible. But I do think that governments
28:05
have a life cycle and
28:07
people tend to get corrupted
28:10
by power. And I think that corporations
28:12
are motivated by profits. I think
28:15
we bring all those things together, just
28:17
things crumble after a while. So again, I don't
28:19
think it necessarily means that we're going to
28:21
be occupied by a different country or it's World War
28:23
III. But I think that the economy could
28:25
be little rocky, you know, little recession eat
28:28
for a while or things might feel a
28:30
little rough with the selection. But
28:33
I don't lose sleep over that because I
28:35
know I prepared and we hosted
28:37
out of love, not
28:39
fear. And I think that's really
28:41
important. And that is
28:44
going to help you enjoy what you're
28:46
doing in your kitchens and your gardens
28:48
with your animals and your barn so
28:50
much more than coming at it from
28:52
a place of this is falling. So
28:54
I want to encourage you today that even
28:56
if you've dabbled in a little bit of that
28:58
conspiratorial thinking, you felt your heart be a little
29:00
faster when you're watching videos or reading posts online.
29:02
I'm going to invite you to step away from
29:05
that because here's the deal.
29:07
You can wind yourself up and feed your
29:09
brain a constant diet of that and then
29:11
you're going to see it everywhere. Or,
29:14
you know, odds are you
29:16
watching a YouTube video about it isn't going
29:18
to change what happens anyway. So here is
29:20
my invitation for you as we wrap up
29:22
this episode. You know, the
29:25
world's going to do what the world's going
29:27
to do regardless of how many YouTube videos
29:29
you watch about the end of the
29:31
world or whatever else may be happening. And
29:34
all that happens when we feed our brains a
29:36
constant diet of that is it works us up,
29:38
it raises our blood pressure, and it
29:41
makes us start to see the bad
29:43
things everywhere because we start to look for it.
29:46
So you can choose to live like that
29:49
in a heightened state of
29:51
fear or you can choose to say, you know what,
29:53
it's going to happen, what's going to happen? And
29:56
I can still love this homestead lifestyle and
29:58
grow food. and connect
30:00
with my neighbors and build healthy soil
30:03
and create in my kitchen for
30:05
my own motivations. Out of love for all
30:08
of those things, out of joy and out
30:10
of passion, the results of what you create
30:12
and produce on your homestead will probably be
30:14
the same. You'll just be a lot happier
30:17
in the process and you'll still be prepared
30:19
no matter what the world may throw at us. So
30:23
I hope that was encouraging for you today friends.
30:25
Again, if you are more of
30:27
the conspiracy crew than I
30:29
am, cool. You're welcome here. I
30:31
hope you enjoy my content. I'm
30:34
not trying to ostracize or push aside. I
30:36
just want to keep our movement where it
30:38
is wholesome and welcoming to folks of all
30:40
walks of life, regardless of what they believe
30:43
about the end of the world. Because there's
30:45
so much good here. There is so much
30:47
good for all humans and all humans need
30:49
this, not just a certain group.
30:51
So I will keep preaching that till the cows
30:54
come home. So that's all I got for you
30:56
today. Thank you so much and we will chat
30:58
on the next episode of the Old Fashioned On
31:00
Purpose Pad Chat.
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