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specializing in internal medicine

1:04

and hospice care. He's an internationally

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recognized educator and thought leader

1:09

on the microbiome as it relates to health,

1:11

disease, and food systems. Please

1:14

welcome to On Purpose, Zach Bush.

1:16

Zach, thank you for being here.

1:17

What a pleasure to be with you, Jay and the whole audience.

1:19

Thank you.

1:20

Yeah. I'm so grateful, honestly to talk to you today

1:22

because one of the things I love doing on the show

1:24

is sitting down with people who've dedicated

1:27

their life to helping people feel

1:29

better, do better, and do good. And I feel

1:31

that a lot of your work is entirely

1:33

dedicated to that. And in order for

1:35

me and my audience to get to know you a bit better, I'd

1:37

love to start off by asking you,

1:40

you know, what was your journey from conventional

1:43

medicine to internal medicine and

1:46

how did you even move in that direction, because

1:48

I think that today we're seeing

1:51

a lot more of that. But you've been doing this for

1:53

a long time, so I wonder what that transition

1:56

was like.

1:56

It was a step wise journey into a lot of left

1:59

hand turns and pivot, I think. But the journey

2:02

began in the Philippines. I took a hard

2:04

left turn in my career. I was going into

2:06

engineering, took a year off, and then had

2:08

the opportunity to birth babies in the Philippines with

2:10

a group of international midwives, and that experience

2:13

of being around the birth of human

2:15

life was so riveting and

2:17

so engaging that the idea

2:19

of returning to a program in robotics and

2:21

machines just couldn't capture my imagination

2:24

anymore. And so that was my interer pointing

2:26

to the health career and initially

2:29

thinking maybe nursing nurse practitioner, and then

2:31

eventually slippery slope took me into

2:33

the idea of just going down that medical

2:35

doctor route, and that journey

2:37

came along in an interesting point in human

2:39

history where I didn't realize in the nineteen

2:41

nineties, none of us knew at the time that we were about

2:43

to witness the most extraordinary explosion

2:45

of chronic disease in human history. We

2:48

were about to see the complete collapse of

2:50

the human immune system, the human neurologic

2:52

system, and the debut of things

2:55

like attention death is a disorder, gluten

2:57

sensitivity, lime disease, chronic

2:59

fatigue syndromes, chronic pain syndromes,

3:02

things that had simply not existed ten years,

3:04

let alone in the previous thousand

3:06

years. And so it was a very interesting

3:08

time to enter into this world of

3:10

science and medicine at the point where

3:13

we would lose it all. And now

3:15

we recognize, you know, thirty years

3:17

later, that we're now in the midst of the sixth extinction

3:19

event, where we're losing biology at such an extraordinary

3:21

rate, and we see not only cancer epidemics

3:24

and autimmune epidemics and the rest, we're seeing

3:26

pandemics and the results of this

3:28

real disruption of neural

3:31

anatomy and attention deficit to autism

3:34

from Parkinson's to Alzheimer's, and

3:36

this breakdown in our cell cell communication

3:38

such that we would really lose our self identity

3:41

in this milieu of inflammation and

3:44

destruction at the cellular level, which

3:46

of course is manifesting at the macro level

3:48

as well. And so we see the dissolution of socio

3:51

political systems and this polarization

3:53

and the fear, guilt, shame paradigms

3:56

amplifying as our biology collapses.

3:58

So never before or so interesting

4:00

a moment to step into this space, and it's

4:03

been a real exciting journey into realizing

4:05

that the end is near

4:08

of an old paradigm and the beginning is knife

4:10

for everything that we perhaps

4:12

have not even yet imagined, because

4:14

we are starting to realize that to be human, to

4:17

be human, health is to really a

4:19

description of an ecosystem rather than

4:21

a single species trying to met out a

4:23

survival paradigm within a complex

4:26

ecosystem of life.

4:27

You know, one of the reasons why I've been so interested in your

4:29

work is because I found myself

4:32

going from being quite a healthy individual to

4:34

then randomly having inflammation and having

4:37

gut issues and whatever it may have been. And none of

4:39

them were things I could even explain,

4:41

like I was living a generally healthy diet

4:43

or I was pretty active or

4:46

whatever it may be. But still I'd

4:48

started to see all these things, and so what

4:51

started in the first place at such a global

4:53

level, like what has been going

4:55

on with our health, the

4:57

food system and everything else it's

5:00

been happening that has caused it today where

5:02

I think the majority of us either are experiencing

5:04

it or know someone who's experiencing it.

5:06

Yeah, I think I

5:08

had to go into the problem before I found some

5:11

of the answers to your questions there and diving

5:13

deeper and deeper into the problem. I was as

5:16

trained in internal medicine, which is general hospital

5:18

care kind of your adult medicine, and conventional

5:21

pharmaceutical model, running ICUs

5:23

and the like running how was the chief resident,

5:26

training residence and med students at the University

5:28

of Virginia, and was finding that I

5:30

wasn't finding the answer as to how do I make

5:32

my patients healthier. I was chasing disease

5:34

and it was getting more and more difficult. It seemed every

5:36

year to actually have a positive outcome

5:38

with my patients. And so I felt like I needed more training,

5:41

and I did endochronology and metabolism for

5:43

another three years, and that training really took

5:45

me into what is the communication network of

5:48

this exquisite symphony that we would call a human

5:50

body. How's liver talk to the brain, How's the brain

5:52

talk back to the adrenal glands. How the adrenal

5:54

glands talked to those kidneys? And

5:56

so that was the fascination of that hormonal

5:58

network of communicator, and that drove

6:01

me down deeper into the second half of

6:03

that specialty, which is called metabolism. How

6:05

does energy get liberated within a human

6:07

cell to manifest life and the

6:10

answer was just becoming obvious,

6:12

was that it's actually not the human cells

6:14

creating the energy. It's these tiny little microbes,

6:17

these little bacteria that live inside of our cells,

6:19

that was liberating energy for the human cell

6:21

to thrive upon. And those little

6:24

bacteria, often called mitochondria,

6:27

are very susceptible to toxins.

6:30

I was developing toxins to kill

6:32

cancer cells and was watching those toxins

6:34

damage this ecosystem within and then make

6:37

it very difficult for a cell to recover on

6:40

a cancer journey. And so it was

6:42

a realization that this paradigm

6:44

of poisoning for the effort of health was just

6:46

chasing for the wind. So I'd spent seventeen years

6:49

of academia becoming an expert in celluar

6:51

biology, becoming an expert ultimately and

6:53

this little niche of chemotherapy, realizing

6:56

that at the end, oh my gosh, I'm chasing the

6:58

wind. No matter how good my chemo theay he

7:00

gets, it's never going to actually solve the

7:02

problem that I face because actually,

7:05

in human history, not a single case of

7:07

cancer has ever been caused

7:09

by a lack of chemotherapy. And

7:12

so it was that kind of slippery slope of root

7:14

cause roots solution with cause res solution to realize

7:16

I'm not anywhere near the root of this thing. But

7:19

my chemotherapy was in vitamin A compounds,

7:22

which are nutrients obviously from food

7:24

systems, and so that was a backdoor

7:26

into the question of what happened to nutrition

7:29

that we would suddenly have all this cancer. If

7:31

nutrition can kill cancer, where did

7:33

that nutrient base go? And

7:36

that led us then to some pretty exciting

7:38

answers. And I had to leave the university

7:40

setting at that point because the research

7:42

that I next wanted to do couldn't really fit

7:44

into the paradigm of here's a drug, here's

7:47

the disease, and I was starting

7:49

to want to ask deeper questions about how does

7:51

life happen, how does biology happen? So

7:53

I left in twenty ten started a clinic

7:56

that was based in nutrition,

7:58

an idea that nutrition could be the base for

8:00

reversing chronic disease and perhaps ultimately

8:02

preventing it. And that was a daunting and scary

8:04

moment for me because I had been trained nothing at all on nutrition,

8:07

and so I was desperately looking for everything I could

8:09

put my hands on, and the nutrition sciences

8:12

to try to find a path forward, and I was finding

8:14

that the nutrition science is really disconnected

8:16

from the deeper understanding of how biology

8:18

worked. We were practicing on a fifty

8:20

year old beliefs about nutrition with the

8:22

feud pyramid and all this, when

8:24

in fact we kind of knew already at the biology level

8:27

that that was a miss, but

8:29

we hadn't matured that science

8:32

and long winding path.

8:35

It turns out that I found myself back

8:37

to not recent medicine, but ancient,

8:39

ancient medicine. And we find that long

8:41

before Hippocrates came along to say we are what

8:44

we eat kind of thing, Chinese

8:46

medicine had recognized that we must

8:50

realize that we are manifestation of the nutrient

8:53

nutrition, the connection to nature. And

8:55

maybe deeper than Chinese medicine are veda,

8:58

which was a deep, deep feel

9:00

that you've studied extensively with your tea company

9:02

and everything else. This science

9:04

of iravative dates back nine thousand years,

9:07

and comparing that to like fifty years of food

9:09

science that we throw at the wall right

9:11

now, it's been proven over

9:13

and over and over again in vast different

9:17

people's groups and genetics and everything

9:19

else, and so in the end, that long winding

9:21

path took me back into this indigenous realization

9:24

of we are of nature, We are of the earth.

9:27

Each one of us is of the earth, and this

9:29

is why we call ourselves earthlings,

9:32

I suppose. But this human condition identifies

9:35

that nature intended us into our existence

9:37

and into our resilience and into our full potential.

9:40

And it's in this last one hundred years where we've accelerated

9:43

this march away from that nature and the convenience

9:45

lifestyles and the technology boom and everything

9:47

else. And this has been that pivot

9:49

point of how did we lose health? We

9:51

simply distanced ourselves from nature further than

9:54

we'd ever been, and we did it at

9:56

these fundamentals, as you point out, of the food system.

9:59

And so that was my slippery slope into what's

10:01

happened to the food, which took us into what happened

10:03

to the soil, which has taken us into a

10:06

realization of, oh my gosh, we became chemically

10:08

dependent, both in our farming practices and

10:10

our pharmacy of the hospital. And

10:12

when we took both of those industries

10:14

and said we will technologically create

10:17

a new chemical that will allow us to grow food

10:19

better, and be healthier. We

10:21

lost our underpinnings, We lost the foundation

10:24

of nutritional health on the planet

10:26

and the vitality of humanity.

10:28

It's incredible, isn't it That it feels

10:30

like such small,

10:33

simple changes, but then they achieve

10:36

incredible scale, right

10:38

like the idea of if

10:40

you could find that to be the root. But

10:43

the rate at which we've all been negatively

10:45

impacted by it has been colossal.

10:48

I guess right now, the individuals that are listening

10:50

and all of us, it's kind of we're in a challenging

10:53

place because I think people

10:55

want to be healthier, but they feel extremely conditioned

10:58

by how they've been raised, they grew

11:00

up, the kinds of foods that they've been exposed

11:02

to, the types of convenience

11:04

as you said that they have already. And

11:07

I find that that's probably one of the

11:09

hardest things, is habit change,

11:12

because like you said, we've marched so far

11:14

away from being at one with the environment,

11:17

or being at one with the soil, or being so close

11:19

to our food, and now it's being so far

11:21

away that it almost feels more

11:23

abnormal to go back to

11:26

nature because of the conditioning that

11:28

exists, and so how difficult

11:31

have you found it to help people actually

11:33

reconnect with that which we've forgotten,

11:36

when that's actually who we were. If that makes

11:38

sense.

11:39

I think it's almost impossible when you sit down

11:41

with somebody in the constructor I'm

11:43

going to prove to you that you're wrong. But

11:46

it's incredibly easy to get there when

11:48

you start in a state of compassion. Compassion

11:51

is a much different energy than empathy,

11:53

and I think we've lost

11:56

compassion for our belief and empathy.

11:58

Empathy is that effort to bring

12:01

my energy, my vibration to

12:03

your vibration. Let you be the tuning fork,

12:06

because you might have been just been diagnosed with a condition.

12:09

If I sit down with a cancer patient, their vibration

12:11

is in fear and you know, maybe

12:13

guilt and shame because they're gonna leave their children

12:15

behind at a young age or whatever it is. And so

12:18

if I dive into empathy and

12:20

try to match that vibration, we get stuck there.

12:23

We get stuck in the fear, guilt, shame paradigm,

12:25

and I'm suddenly steeped in fear of like, I

12:27

don't think I'm equipped to help

12:29

you free yourself with this disease.

12:31

I think you are going to die, I think that you know, and so I

12:33

have these deep fears within me around

12:35

the death of my patient, and they have that deep

12:37

fear of death within themselves. And

12:40

so that's typically where we go as

12:42

humans right now, as we're taught that this empathic

12:45

state of what is the vibration of the other person

12:47

across from you? Can you match that that before

12:49

you're in it together, whereas compassion is

12:52

a much different state of recognizing where

12:54

they're at, listening to the song they're singing,

12:56

but not becoming part of that symphony, and

12:58

holding this other space, this other potential

13:01

reality of Okay, yes this

13:03

has happened, but what is the alternative

13:05

to it? And I think you lose that when

13:07

you slip into that fear state, when you lose your

13:09

creativity. As soon as that fight or flight state

13:11

kicks in on your sympathetic nervous system,

13:14

the creative part of your brain shuts down. When

13:16

we stimulate the adrenal glands, which

13:19

is of course what we're doing to our children with adderall

13:21

and all this, we stimulate with drugs those adrenal

13:23

glands and they lose their creativity. So we have

13:25

whole generations now that have been taught

13:28

to answer multiple choice tests at

13:30

the cost of their own creativity and performance

13:33

is linked to their adrenaline levels.

13:36

That is basically the same

13:38

thing that's happening in every doctor's office in the world,

13:40

as the physician is afraid that they're not going to prevent

13:43

death in this patient, and the patient is afraid that

13:45

they are dying. And for all that

13:47

fear of an endpoint, we

13:49

can't imagine life as a continuum,

13:51

as a continuing energetic

13:54

event that's vital and constantly regenerating

13:56

itself. And so that's kind of

13:58

the spiral that

14:00

we were in and finding

14:02

our way out of that had to deal with realize that nature

14:05

has never seen an endpoint, has never seen

14:07

death of an individual or species,

14:10

as endpoints always new potential energy,

14:12

and the beauty on this planet has continued

14:15

to get more rich, more

14:17

diverse, and ultimately more intelligent

14:19

with every single iteration. We

14:22

call it the sixth extinction that we're in because

14:24

there's been five others, and yet

14:26

life booms on this planet in ways

14:28

that we couldn't have imagined before that last

14:31

extinction. Sixty million years ago,

14:33

the dinosaurs were walking around on top

14:35

soil levels that were thirty feet deep. We're

14:38

lucky to find three inches of good time

14:40

soil on the Earth right now, thirty

14:42

feet deep top soils, root systems

14:44

of ferns and palms that allowed for

14:46

those forms of vegetation to

14:48

fuel those dinosaurs in to

14:51

these massive bodies, because there was so

14:53

much nutrition, so much energy

14:55

available. And then the

14:57

top topsoil died. An asteroid

14:59

hit, It choked the top soils out, and

15:02

life on Earth disappeared for

15:04

a moment, and then it came back,

15:06

not with dinosaurs, but with birds,

15:09

mammals, humans, not

15:12

with palms and ferns, but palms, ferns

15:14

and flowering trees, deciduous

15:16

trees, flowering plants, wild flowers,

15:20

and so this has been a journey of iteration

15:22

on this planet of life more rich and more

15:24

intelligent at every single turn. And

15:27

this needs to be embraced as

15:29

a society right now, as we anticipate the

15:31

death of many things, we need

15:33

to get excited for what will come next. More

15:36

richness, more beauty is going to happen, and

15:38

that's programmed into the matrix of life.

15:40

It will get better, it will get more diverse,

15:42

and it will get more intelligent. And

15:44

if we imagine the Earth leaping from

15:47

dinosaurs to birds and mammals and humans.

15:49

Where do we go from birds, mammals and humans

15:51

to what? What species has

15:53

this Earth already imagined and already

15:56

coated for in the virom? The

15:58

virom is a description of a library of genetic

16:01

potential. It's all of the viruses of the planet.

16:03

It's a database. Those viruses

16:06

are new potential genes waiting to be

16:08

expressed by whatever life happens next.

16:11

Right now, in my body, there's ten to fifteen

16:13

viruses coursing through my bloodstream.

16:16

It's ten billion viruses in my bloodstream

16:18

right now. Not the same virus, has repeated,

16:20

different viruses, ten billion new genes

16:24

checking in with every cell in my body. To say,

16:26

is this an opportunity? Is this an opportunity? Is this an

16:28

opportunity? So as I let go

16:30

of my own biology, if I let go of fear,

16:32

guilt and shame, is there a possibility

16:34

for me to leap forward with my own biology,

16:36

with the genes that are within me right now

16:39

coursing through my bloodstream. Because

16:41

I'm a microcosm of extinction and

16:43

rebirth. And this is where

16:45

medicine has really failed us as it was

16:48

a belief of scarcity rather than

16:50

abundance, death rather than

16:52

rebirth, fear of

16:54

being that everything was against us rather

16:56

than perhaps everything is for us. And

16:59

this has been slippery journey for me of realizing

17:02

at each turn I under estimated

17:04

our potential and we are sitting here

17:06

at the pinnacle of a great rebirth of humanity

17:09

if we choose to go that direction.

17:11

I guess if anyone's feeling

17:14

that way on a personal level,

17:18

where they're living in that scarcity,

17:20

they're living in that fear, they're living in that insecurity

17:22

of and just challenge

17:25

of I don't know what to do. I don't know where

17:27

to start. There's so many things

17:29

that I need to sort out. With my health, there's

17:32

you know, I'm worried about I keep hearing about my nervous

17:34

system and the microbiome, and it just feels

17:36

like overwhelming because

17:39

we've been so uneducated and untrained

17:42

in our bodies. Right, It's almost like we've

17:44

been given these bodies since we've been born, but we're

17:46

so uneducated about

17:49

how to use them and what they need and

17:51

what's good for them and what's bad for them. And so

17:53

if someone's feeling in a state of overwhelm,

17:56

Where do you suggest they begin.

17:59

We've we've been working for the last fifteen

18:01

years in our laboratory and in

18:03

our clinics to sort out what's

18:05

the simplest approach

18:08

to beginning again, because

18:10

I think we really are at the end of physiology. When

18:12

we see two year olds with osteosarcoma, when

18:14

we see fifteen year olds with psychotic

18:17

major depression, and when we see a twenty

18:19

year old with life threatening autommune disease.

18:22

All of these conditions are saying that we need

18:25

a radical revolution. And so we've

18:27

been working through all of the complexity

18:29

of the diseases and the root causes and everything

18:31

else to find that there's really eight very

18:33

basic things that start to build

18:35

physiology from the ground up at the cell

18:37

level and therefore at the organism level, and

18:40

from the organism to the species. And

18:42

those eight things really revolve around

18:44

some very basic lifestyle interventions,

18:47

the first of which is coming out of fear. And

18:50

so we spend the first segment of this process

18:53

of finding self within the context of

18:55

all the anxiety that you have that you might feel

18:58

like you're dying, that you feel like it's so feel

19:00

like all the cards are stacked against you. How do we get out

19:02

of that paradigm quickly? And

19:04

that's an effort of really bringing the arrow inwards,

19:07

because right now the medicine

19:09

and the world at large are trying to point outside

19:11

of you to say there's your problem, there's your problem, there's your problem,

19:13

there's your problem, there's a problem. So turning

19:16

that arrow inward to say, where's my solution? And

19:18

you and I talked about this briefly before the podcast

19:21

started, of like, how did you know your journey?

19:23

How did you get from North London

19:26

to Los Angeles and everything in between? And

19:28

you answered very beautifully. You said, I

19:30

just listened to my intuition and

19:32

I never tried to judge it for did

19:35

it make sense or non And that's

19:37

basically what's happened at our clinic is we had to

19:39

go inward and ask where does this health

19:41

come from? Because I wasn't trained into

19:43

health. I was trained into disease management.

19:46

And so as myself and my

19:48

colleagues started to put that arrow inward, we

19:50

found while this is really exciting, it's

19:52

super simple. In the end, It's not a thousand diseases

19:54

against humans, It's one health

19:57

waiting to emerge. And

19:59

so as you come out of the fear paradigm

20:01

and that external definition of self and you

20:03

become you, then your guide

20:05

is your future self, your highest

20:08

self, whatever is it being expressed to make you

20:10

alive today with a self identity,

20:12

which is pretty bizarre. It's strange

20:14

that you know, you wake up every morning and you know your Jay.

20:17

It's strange that I haven't woken up and at some point

20:20

thought I'm j shehddy because we're

20:22

really the same thing, like we're saying

20:24

biology same thing. I think I'm

20:27

in Los Angeles. I could have bumped into

20:29

the jwave very easily and been like, I'm Jay

20:31

shehtdy. And yet you keep

20:33

being you, no matter how close and proximity

20:35

others are around you, no matter how much food you

20:37

share the same beliefs, you share, the same You keep

20:39

being you. And the really trippy

20:41

thing is I get to in that ic U setting,

20:44

see people let go of the body and die, heart

20:46

stops, brain waves come to a standstill,

20:49

they leave that body, and then they suddenly reanimate.

20:52

We're doing chest compressions, we're shocking on whatever's

20:54

going on, or sometimes they just spontaneously

20:56

come back into that body, and

20:59

they traveled after that body

21:01

stopped, after that heartbeat stopped,

21:03

they traveled around, sometimes in the

21:05

room, sometimes great distances around the

21:07

planets that visit loved ones, et cetera. Sometimes

21:09

off the planet into the cosmos. And

21:12

at no point in that after death journey

21:15

do they lose track of their self identity.

21:18

And so that is a very strange

21:20

thing about near death experiences that has I

21:22

think has been under explored.

21:25

Your identity preceded your biologic

21:28

expression and will follow your

21:30

biologic expression as your body. But

21:32

you're you when we begin health at

21:34

that point of realizing that's a permanent condition

21:38

that can't be destroyed by biologic

21:40

processes. That's your original

21:42

math. That's the vibration you're going to follow.

21:45

For me, that's the anatomy of the soul. A

21:49

soul is something that has been

21:51

captured by the religious world to describe

21:53

the thing that will supersede your life.

21:57

But on the science side, it is

21:59

perhaps a great description of the energy

22:01

field that allows you to organize in your

22:03

mother's womb. At the beginning of your one

22:05

cell that starts to divide, just like a tumor

22:07

divides, and then suddenly around

22:10

replication two hundred and sixty. You

22:12

start to differentiate, and suddenly

22:14

a cell becomes a kidney cell or

22:16

anu logic cell or whatever it's going to become. And

22:19

not only does it become a unique cell, it knows where

22:21

to migrate to in a three dimensional map

22:23

to become that organ system. And

22:26

we cannot find that map in this

22:29

inside the human cell or in biology.

22:31

That map seems to be in the physics field,

22:33

which is to say, in the electromagnetic field, which

22:35

is to say, in the space between everything.

22:38

Your body, as solid as it appears to me right

22:40

now, is ninety nine point ninety nine nine percent

22:42

vacuum space filled with

22:45

an electromatic field, which is super dense

22:47

that organizes the reality of tissue around

22:49

it. This solid is organized by the

22:51

vacuum. And so that

22:54

thing, that thing that organizes jays

22:56

shetty every millionth of a second to

22:58

reorganize itself, because you just appear and reappear

23:01

constantly, approximately every

23:03

millionth of a second, and you keep being you,

23:05

you keep coming back every millionth of a second, So one

23:07

million times a second, I'm remanifesting

23:09

in front of you with a map from

23:12

that electromatic field. So perhaps that's

23:14

the anatomy of the soul. Perhaps that's the

23:16

thing that holds the original you, and

23:19

we have set this world up for disease

23:21

by convincing you you're a whole bunch of identities

23:24

outside of yourself. You're a son,

23:26

you're a father, you're a mother, you're an employer, you're

23:28

an employee, you're a boss, this

23:31

or that. It was Harely. The more altruistic

23:33

those titles get, the more likely they are to

23:35

diverge you from self. For me,

23:38

that was the title doctor.

23:41

The whole world wanted to make me feel like that was the

23:43

most important thing I had accomplished, and

23:45

this is what gave me value in society.

23:47

And it's been a long, bumpy thirty years

23:50

since getting that MD kind of in

23:52

behind my name to realize it's not the thing,

23:55

It's not me. I'm something

23:57

bigger than that. I am something more

23:59

true, true than a compilation of somebody

24:02

else's curriculum and some doctor's

24:04

title. And when you find

24:06

that original vibration of this is me, you

24:09

become very potent. We start to tune

24:12

to something bigger than the biology

24:14

would have you believe in, and

24:16

in that you start to do something different. With your

24:18

relationship to everything. And that's the a point

24:20

journey that we've put together for the Journey

24:23

of Intrinsic Health, which is our program that we've

24:25

been helping answer that question how do you get to

24:27

health? These eight steps are laid out in

24:28

this eight week journey and

24:30

it's about that change of relationship to

24:32

your food, to actually water. Water is

24:35

really backwards as to our understanding

24:37

of how we hydrate and what water is. And

24:39

then we also get confused about breath

24:42

and our relationships to each each

24:44

little respiration we take. We're

24:46

confused about what it happens when

24:48

we fast and what does that paucity

24:50

of stress on the neurologic system

24:52

look like. Confused about exercise.

24:54

We do exercise backwards as well,

24:56

and so it's re forming

24:59

the relationship to all of these lifestyle

25:01

things that you've been told are important,

25:03

but when you go and do the thing that's important, you don't

25:05

get healthier. And that was a big

25:07

question mark for all of us in the medical field

25:09

of like, we know people should exercise, and

25:12

yet when we tell people who are overweight and

25:14

diabetic to go exercise, they don't actually

25:16

consistently lose weight, and they very rarely

25:18

improve their diabetes. Why

25:20

is that we know movement is

25:22

important and yet it's not working. And

25:25

I think it's because of this externalization of everything.

25:27

And so since you're not you, and you're

25:30

this external representation of yourself,

25:32

your relationship to all these things food, movement,

25:35

breath, fasting, the rest are

25:37

all backwards as well. And so this

25:39

is the eight week journey into the obvious, but

25:42

in a completely new lens of everything's

25:44

going to go internal instead of externally

25:46

sought after. And that's changed a

25:49

lot of everything, and it's allowed

25:51

me to close my physical clinic where I was

25:53

seeing one patient of time and go to a coaching

25:55

model where we are witnessed to the healing process

25:58

rather than mandating the healing process,

26:01

rather than the prescriptive process of an MD

26:03

writing down eight prescriptions and

26:05

saying this will make you better, realizing

26:08

that can never make anybody bigger better because those

26:10

prescriptions are eight externals,

26:12

you know, stimuli that have absolutely

26:14

nothing to do with the roof cause of their disease. And

26:17

so this has been an exciting journey of reversing

26:19

out of my education and into the

26:21

realization that there's nothing more beautiful and

26:23

potent than a human being in their own

26:25

field, in their own self, in their own

26:28

original math.

26:29

I'd love to dive into some of those eight if

26:31

it's okay, because I

26:33

think identity is such a cool one, which you just

26:35

touched on beautifully there. You touched

26:37

on water there. I'd love to understand a bit

26:39

more about that, because I

26:41

think that's kind of like not even talked about.

26:44

I've barely heard. I don't

26:46

know my wife's I always

26:48

call my wife a water snob because she's

26:50

very, very careful about the what do we drink and the what do

26:52

we you know, shower

26:55

with and everything else. But if you could

26:57

guide us to understanding what

26:59

you're sharing a new a week program around

27:01

water, at least as a high level, could you

27:03

guide us through that right now?

27:05

When we think about liquid water, we tend

27:07

to think of this stuff in this glass here and

27:09

tastes good to drink, It feels good to drink

27:11

when it's clean, and it has

27:13

this kind of refreshing quality

27:15

to it for a lot of us. But my

27:18

body is seventy percent water, and not a

27:20

single ounce of that is in this form. The

27:23

vast majority of the water within my

27:25

body is actually in a crystalline structure.

27:28

If you've ever seen jello eaten jello made

27:30

jello, you see liquid turn into a solid.

27:32

And that gel like structure with hidden yellow

27:35

is the result of complex crystal

27:39

structures of the water organizing itself

27:41

around proteins. And

27:43

that's how I hold water. And it turns

27:45

out that my biologic age

27:47

and my likelihood of disease correlates

27:50

perfectly with how much crystal water do I hold.

27:52

That crystal water is holding

27:54

something within it, and it's

27:57

light. In a very amazing bio

28:00

logic phenomenon, this planet is

28:02

able to capture solar energy in

28:04

chlorophyll, which are tiny little mitochondria

28:06

that live inside of plants, a little bacteria,

28:10

and these chlorophyll have been able to take CO

28:12

two and turn it into batteries, and

28:15

the battery is a long chain of carbon

28:17

double carbon bond is the most efficient battery

28:19

ever invented by nature that takes no

28:21

energy to maintain the light within

28:23

that. So sunlight is captured between

28:26

two CO two molecules and then eight and then

28:28

twelve, and these long carbon chains,

28:30

and then we digest those by consuming food,

28:33

and we liberate glucose sugars

28:35

carbohydrates, fatty acids, and

28:37

the oils in our foods, and we

28:40

package that up in our liver and send it out to every

28:42

cell in the body. And it turns out that

28:44

human cells don't know how to use any of that glucose for

28:46

fatty acids. There's no mechanism for releasing

28:48

the sunlight, so it has to pass it down

28:50

to the mitochondria living inside our cells. So

28:53

it's basically the mitochondria in plants communicating

28:56

potential energy to the mitochondria within us.

28:58

Those mitochondria start breaking apart the CO two

29:01

and start releasing sunlight back into

29:04

the side of their matrix, and that's

29:06

what's being held within the crystal structure of water.

29:09

And it turns out that when I drink water like this,

29:12

I'm doing very little to support the crystalline

29:14

structure within my cells. For this to

29:16

turn into a crystal, it takes a complex

29:19

relationship to a vast

29:21

array of salts, mineral amino acid

29:23

complexes, and protein structures. And

29:26

that's where we kind of lost the hydration story.

29:28

If I drink this water's going to feel good. It's going

29:31

to feel like I'm hydrating myself for a few minutes.

29:33

But I'm going to pee this out in the next forty five

29:35

minutes. It'll if I haven't

29:37

emptied my bladder, it will be citty in my bladder. It's

29:40

no longer in my body. It's outside of my

29:42

body again. Because this pure

29:44

water has no reservoir in

29:46

my body. It has to pass quickly through

29:48

my bloodstream back to the kidneys and get out to my

29:50

urine. And so the

29:53

journey into health is really a rediscovery

29:56

of how do you get water into the crystal

29:58

stage. And it's a complex journey

30:00

in some ways, but it is an exciting

30:02

premise to begin with. Is I need to

30:04

be more full of light? How

30:06

do I become more full of light so that I'm more vital,

30:08

so I can repair at a faster

30:11

rate than ever before. Because there's more poisons in

30:13

my environment than any other time in human history,

30:15

I need more crystalline structure. And

30:17

so we reevaluate water at that journey

30:20

from your gut into the crystal form

30:22

inside your cells, where it turns into that gel battery

30:25

storage place for that light liberation

30:28

from the sunlight, for the

30:30

animation of life to happen. And

30:32

so that's a little bit of a nutshell of a

30:34

lot more content that can be drilled into. But

30:37

that's a little bit of that flip on the head of water.

30:40

Yeah, absolutely, I mean, and

30:43

you said you can actually test you

30:45

can actually see your age through

30:47

the quality of that crystalline

30:50

structure. You can test for that. How

30:52

do you test for that?

30:53

The easiest way to test for is a relatively

30:56

old technology. It's called a phase angle calculation.

30:58

But you use an impedance monitor,

31:01

which is a description of just measurement

31:03

of resistance. And it looks like ekg

31:06

leads. If you've ever seen an ekge twelve leads

31:08

around the heart and all that stuff. They're

31:10

sticky little paths. You'll put one on the wrists,

31:12

one on the forefinger, one on the ankle,

31:15

one on the toe, and then you lay perfectly

31:18

flat and you measure across that column

31:20

of water that's now at an equal lateral

31:23

level to the Earth and to gravity. You measure

31:26

the amount of electrical resistance across that

31:28

column, and from that you can calculate,

31:30

based on body weight and your height

31:33

and all this stuff, how much water is

31:35

inside every cell. And when you

31:37

calculate that, then you get a very good biologic

31:39

age and biological estimate of your vitality.

31:42

An ideal phase angle is up around ten

31:44

twelve. I've never seen anybody at ten or

31:46

twelve. The healthiest patients walking my

31:48

clinic are typically around a seven or

31:51

an eight on their phase angle. Anybody coming

31:53

in with disease, let's go with cancer

31:56

for the endpoint. There is typically

31:58

around a four. Death

32:00

happens at three point five. And

32:03

so what I just told you is ideal health is ten, death

32:06

is three point five, and cancer

32:08

shows up at four. And here we're

32:10

telling everybody they're dying of cancer. As

32:13

it turns out, when you look at the simple

32:15

reality of water inside a

32:17

cell, cancer is

32:19

one of the last symptoms of a complete

32:22

disconnect from the energetics of life.

32:24

Cancer happens when you no longer are connected

32:26

to the energy of that plant,

32:28

of that chlorophyll, of that sunlight

32:31

that charged life in the first place. And

32:33

so that's where we go with this eight week journey is where

32:36

did it break down? How did you go from

32:38

ten to three? How did you get

32:40

from ten to four? Whatever it is? And then

32:43

how do we start to back you up that track of crystaline

32:45

water? How do we get your body to hold more light

32:47

energy? So that you're more vital, so that you accelerate

32:50

every enzyme process, detoxification,

32:52

repair, regeneration, protein

32:54

structures throughout all matrices. All

32:57

of that happens automatically when the light goes

32:59

up. You mentioned a product

33:01

earlier, the gut supplement

33:03

you probably got put on by your nutritionus. But the

33:07

journey into that phenomenon was

33:09

our understanding of soil and

33:12

food And how did it break down so quickly

33:14

was the question we were trying to answer. How did we go

33:16

from nineteen ninety two to two thousand and two that

33:19

ten years saw the complete dissolution of

33:21

human health across all ages, across

33:23

all organ systems in a ten year period,

33:25

across all peoples. Really that we're touching Western

33:28

civilization, Western food systems. And

33:31

in that journey we discovered glyphisate,

33:33

and glyphasate is the primary herbicide

33:36

or weed killer in the vast majority ninety

33:38

plus percent of the weed killers on the planet.

33:41

We now spend billions of

33:43

dollars a year spraying this thing into our environment.

33:45

We have an estimated four billion pounds

33:48

of glyfe staate being sprayed into our soil and

33:50

water systems worldwide. And

33:52

it turns out as our laboratory has been studying

33:54

this compound for a decade now.

33:57

Every time you touch human cell systems with glyfe

33:59

state the communication between them,

34:02

it disconnects you from the boundary

34:04

of being human, and it dissolves that to

34:06

the point where you don't know where your begin or

34:08

end of human biology, and your immune

34:10

sism has to turn on to fight everything. So

34:13

you were eating pretty healthy, you were

34:15

exercising, you were living a pretty affluent

34:17

lifestyle compared to the rest of the world, perhaps,

34:19

and yet you weren't thriving because

34:22

there was a chemical now in your food that was dissolving

34:24

the boundary event and your energy was now

34:27

leaking out of your body. Quite literally.

34:29

We've popularized the term leaky

34:31

gut, but it's much deeper than that. That that's happening

34:33

at the individual cell level. That's leaking the light,

34:35

leaking water outside of itself.

34:38

And if you can't hold that crystalline water, you

34:40

can't hold the vitality, the energetics

34:42

of the plants you're eating, of the nutrition you're eating,

34:45

and so you start to fade with your energy levels,

34:47

and with less energy, you repair less well,

34:49

and you start into this chronic disease that

34:51

happened between nineteen ninety two and two thousand and two,

34:54

chrontic fittigue, centers, chronic pain, everything mentioned.

34:56

And so that was your personal journey. And

34:59

then you got put on a supplement. What

35:01

is that supplement? It's not actually a

35:04

traditional supplement. Most supplements are like pieces

35:06

of the nutrition cascade of a vitamin

35:08

or a mineral or protein or

35:10

whatever it is. This is way way upstream

35:12

of that. This is not a nutrient.

35:14

This is in fact the small carbon

35:17

molecules that form a redoc

35:19

singling system, which is a

35:21

fancy word for a wireless communication

35:23

network between your cells. There's

35:26

two ways cells communicate. One is

35:28

through hard fiber optic cables they

35:30

can pass light energy back and forth for communication.

35:33

And the other one is through this more ethereal wireless

35:36

communication similar to your cell phone.

35:38

Your cell phone sits there all the time with a

35:40

complex transmitter in there. A transceiver really

35:42

can receive and transmit tiny little signals, but

35:44

it has to be picked up by a cell phone tier

35:47

that will propagate that information at distance.

35:49

So I can talk to my grandmother. For

35:52

me to talk three thousand miles away, I need lots

35:54

and lots of connections between all those cell

35:56

towers to cascade through to carry

35:58

that message. If you lose

36:00

one cell tower nearby, your

36:03

cell phone selling doesn't work. Nothing

36:06

broke in the cell phone is an important, real reality.

36:08

It just can't reach the bigger system.

36:11

And so the disease of today is not

36:13

actually a disease of a single cell. It's a

36:15

failure of that wireless communication network.

36:17

And so when a single cell gets injured, now it

36:20

can't send out the signal of hey, I'm

36:22

injured, I need repair, and it sits there

36:24

and accumulates injury. And without

36:26

accumulation of injury, we reach cancer. Cancer

36:29

is a single human cell that has twenty thousand

36:31

unrepaired genetic injuries in it. And

36:34

so this journey towards cancer

36:36

is not only a loss of electric light

36:38

and light potential. It's a loss of

36:40

communication and the loss of that regenerative

36:43

potential. And so we now have a whole

36:45

society of humans, eight billion of us that are

36:47

losing our light. We are dimming, and

36:49

we are losing our cell cell communication.

36:52

The cell phone towers are going down and we cannot

36:54

repair. But nature

36:56

always prepares for the worst, and the antidote

36:59

it turns out to the death of communication,

37:02

which is happening at the human level

37:04

is actually the microbiome, which is a term

37:06

that's now thrown around a lot, and I think we all

37:08

have a vague understanding. I think that's like bacteria

37:10

or something, but really what it's describing

37:12

as complex ecosystem. It's

37:15

thousands, if not tens of thousands, if

37:17

not millions, of different species of bacteria,

37:19

fungi, protozoa, and human

37:21

cells alike, all getting into this coherent

37:24

communication network. And so the microbiome

37:26

is a description of a complex landscape

37:28

of biodiversity. And each

37:31

of those microbes, bacteria, fungi, protozoa,

37:33

and the like are making another variant

37:35

to these small carbon snowflakes. And

37:37

when those carbon snowflakes go into a liquid

37:39

state, into the aqueous state of your bloodstream,

37:42

or into that semi aquis state of the gael

37:44

within your cells, they're able to transmit information

37:46

long distances. And so we

37:49

started extracting these from fossil soils

37:51

before the last extinction sixty million

37:53

years ago. Again, thirty foot top soil

37:55

levels the healthiest microbiome the

37:58

planet has ever seen. And so we back

38:00

into the fossil layer of soil and start

38:02

extracting that communication network. And

38:05

the first time we put this on human cells was twenty

38:07

twelve, and I got to see in my lab,

38:10

which was rudimentary at the time, some

38:12

of the most ridiculous things happened in

38:14

a petri dish that I just didn't even believe possible.

38:17

And it was a journey from stop asking

38:20

questions about the cancer cells. We were talking

38:22

and asking questions and studying too

38:25

healthy biology. Is are we

38:27

witnessing health in a petri dish? Is that's what's

38:29

really happening because so many things we're fixing and

38:31

repairing at such a rate I've never imagined

38:33

before. And so it's been a very

38:35

exciting journey to realize that the Earth

38:37

has coded into her deep fossil

38:40

soils a communication network

38:42

that can help us out of our crisis, that can help

38:45

us beyond this isolation of the single

38:47

human cell, and ultimately the isolation of a

38:49

single human species, back

38:51

into an interpretive dance

38:53

with life itself. This vast biology

38:56

within us and around us as ready to re engage.

38:58

We just need those cell phone towers

39:01

up and running, but in our bodies, and

39:03

that's what happened to you when you started ion.

39:05

Yeah, no, thank you for explaining that. It's incredible

39:07

how little

39:10

we know. I mean, when I'm listening to you, I'm

39:12

just thinking to myself, I'm like, we

39:14

we just don't know enough, and

39:18

individually and collectively

39:20

as well. But one of the things

39:22

you talked about water. We talked about a bit about

39:25

microbiom which I want to get back into, but a

39:28

big area that you're focusing on is soil regeneration.

39:31

I think that's been something that's

39:33

been more recently talked

39:35

about as opposed to something that

39:38

we've thrown around as you were saying about

39:40

the microbiome. But talk

39:43

us through that very key element

39:45

of the environment, and

39:48

again, if you can give us that sort of synopsis

39:50

version as you did with water, for us to just understand

39:53

the value of that, because I want people

39:55

to go and follow you and figure out through your

39:57

work the depths of everything we're discussing today.

39:59

But I think think at least for the benefit

40:01

of this conversation, if people could get a sense

40:04

of just the breadth

40:06

of areas

40:08

that we may know. Me considering a negatively impacting

40:10

my health, just as you said, I had no idea when

40:13

I was taking eye on what

40:15

was really going on behind the scenes.

40:17

I want to step in that first point

40:20

for you too. You made the statement that we don't

40:22

know enough, and that's how I felt most

40:24

of my life as a doctor. That's what led to seventeen

40:26

years of higher education and chasing

40:28

that proverbial knowledge that i'd feel less

40:30

afraid. I feel like my whole

40:33

world has just flipped on its head in the last fifteen

40:35

years to the point where I now realize

40:37

I know everything, but I don't know it up

40:39

in my head. I have access

40:42

to information throughout the

40:44

cosmos through something deeper

40:46

than my mind. And that's

40:48

again where you are acting from in your

40:50

career, and not just in your career, with your interaction

40:53

with humans in general. Your recent book on

40:55

human relationships, not just

40:57

the relationship to human cells, to human

40:59

beings. How do we start to relate

41:02

differently than we have in the past,

41:05

And that journey, I think is really exciting

41:08

to realize we actually know everything if we listen

41:10

inside. And this is the experience

41:12

I'm sure you had in those few years living

41:14

as a monk and everything else. When you spend more

41:16

time in silence than you do

41:19

talking, you find you know so

41:21

much and it's not something

41:23

up in your head. It's not an intelligence,

41:26

it's a connection. The

41:28

real truth within you will be remembered

41:30

rather than discovered, and

41:33

so that is an exciting journey into Let's

41:35

take a deep breath and realize nobody

41:37

knows about crystal water, or nobody knows about

41:39

all this stuff, and that doesn't matter, because

41:42

ultimately it shows the

41:44

layers that I can show you in our laboratory

41:46

will give you a glimpse of beauty that you

41:48

may not have been realizing it. But

41:50

how you get to that beauty is something

41:52

you all innately know. Your relationship

41:55

to your water, to your food, and ultimately

41:57

to your soil and ultimately to your planet

42:00

is something that precedes human

42:02

intellect, human consciousness.

42:06

And so we are now in a state of

42:08

being where we can actually realize, Okay,

42:10

if everything existed, our capacity

42:12

to become human existed before the moment we

42:14

were human, what does that mean for our

42:16

connection to the future. It's already

42:18

here, It's already connected. It's already manifesting

42:21

through the genome of the viruses, through the genetic

42:24

potential of the planet itself. It's

42:26

already here. So not only do I know myself

42:28

right now, I have access to information of the future

42:31

because it's already coded for in biology that hasn't

42:33

quite yet appeared, but the information is already there.

42:35

In the same way I can remember the past because

42:38

it's coded for in my genes, that all

42:40

the trauma, all the remembrance, is all the experience

42:42

of my ancestors. It coded for in my genetic

42:44

code. It's not in my head, it's within

42:47

every single cell of my body resonating in

42:49

a crystalline structure that we would call the

42:51

fourth phase of water. And we resonate

42:54

in that liquid crystal state to

42:57

no self and then to express self

42:59

within that mature so deep breath

43:01

for all of us right now this part of the podcast of

43:03

like, you know what we're connected to all of it. We

43:05

don't need to know it in our heads because

43:07

we already have access to it.

43:09

Beautiful.

43:10

Yeah, then the soil, So how does the soil

43:12

come into importance? A soil

43:15

is a living life form, the most complex living

43:17

life form on the planet and

43:19

in life itself, as we understand it, We've never measured

43:22

a more beautiful system of than the

43:24

soil. A teaspoon of soil

43:26

has more organisms than our humans

43:28

on the entire planet a teaspoon,

43:31

and so that there's a complexity and

43:33

a brilliance and a beauty of that living ecosystem

43:35

of soil that dwarfs

43:37

our current understanding of cell biology.

43:40

We can't actually

43:43

measure in a petri dish that behavior eight billion

43:45

different species and a teaspoon of soil, because

43:47

we haven't developed good enough scientific measures

43:50

and fast enough computers to compute that much information

43:52

so fast. So we tend to study one

43:55

species of bacteria and make a whole bunch of conclusions

43:57

that maybe it's bad for us. Well,

44:00

this whole concept of bad bacteria and good

44:02

bacteria of the probotics has really dissolved.

44:04

Now we realize there is no such thing as a good bacteria

44:07

or a bad bacteria. There's only a healthy

44:09

ecosystem or a monoculture.

44:12

Monoculture or the death of biodiversity

44:14

is the demise of life.

44:17

A push towards biodiversity is the

44:19

matrix of health. And it is unfortunate

44:22

that over the last one hundred years we've developed a deep

44:25

economic and physical

44:28

labor dependence on chemicals for our

44:30

farming and agriculture. These chemicals

44:32

destroy the biodiversity of every ounce of

44:34

soil we put these chemicals on. They function

44:37

as antibiotics. Glyphsate, that

44:39

most common of herbicides, has been

44:41

patent as an antibiotic, antifungal, antiparasite.

44:44

It literally demolishes life within the soil

44:46

that it touches. And yet this is what farmers are trained

44:49

to use. We genetically modified all of our seeds

44:51

so that the food would be sprayed repeatedly through

44:53

its lifespan with that chemical,

44:55

and so round up ready seeds

44:57

means poison tall in

45:00

food system. But

45:02

when as a microbiome you are not prepared

45:04

for that poison, or as a consumer

45:06

as an animal upstream, you're not prepared

45:09

for that injury, you become poisoned

45:11

in a way in which you are right not round up

45:13

ready. Neither was your microbiome in your gut, which

45:15

is your soil system. And so all

45:17

this focus on gut health of the last

45:19

ten years is simply a description of soil

45:22

is important. It's where life comes from. Life

45:25

comes out of biodiversity and

45:27

relationship cooperation of

45:30

biodiverse inputs. Regina

45:32

agriculture is a description of this revolution

45:34

that is a foot that we are participating

45:37

in our nonprofit Farmer's Footprint has been part

45:39

of this effort to increase awareness

45:41

and learning, impact and innovation

45:44

around the opportunity for farmers to

45:46

shift away from the belief that they're there to grow bushels

45:48

of corn and instead they're there to grow

45:50

life within their soil systems. And

45:52

when every day they wake up asking how can I

45:54

create more life and diversity within my soils

45:57

instead of what can I kill today? Which is what

45:59

chemical farm is, which invasive

46:01

weeds are now attacking what you

46:03

know, I ICU life support. Do I need to put

46:05

my farm on? Oh gosh, I'm out of

46:07

all these nutrients. So I need to intraveniously

46:10

inject all these nutrients with all these chemical inputs.

46:13

It's an ICU condition in the farm, just as

46:15

is an ICU condition in my hospital. And

46:17

so this is a journey really into

46:19

realizing that we are doing ICU

46:22

care because we lost the matrix of life,

46:24

which is biodversity, which is the soil within

46:26

your gut, soil beneath your feet.

46:28

And it's exciting to realize that we can participate

46:31

this at every level. If

46:33

we walk out in your yard right now you have an

46:35

American lawn, and an American

46:38

lawn is the third largest crop

46:40

grown in the United States. There are forty

46:42

million acres of lawn Kentucky

46:44

blue crass grown in this country. There's only

46:46

one hundred and twenty million acres of farmland

46:49

forty million acres of

46:51

grass. So that it looks nice or whatever

46:53

it is, we have lots of reasons convenient in as

46:55

mowed whatever. If we were

46:57

to take that forty million acres of lawn and

47:00

convert that to food force in our backyards,

47:02

front yards and the rest, we would never go hungry.

47:05

In the next seventy generations. There could not be

47:07

hunger because we would have so much food

47:10

bursting from every yard. In World

47:12

War Two, we came close. We had lost the food

47:14

system, we had lost supply chains, we'd lost

47:16

economics, and so we were growing our food in our

47:18

backyards again. By nineteen forty

47:20

five, Americans and the British

47:22

in London and unres were growing forty five percent

47:25

of their food system in their backyard victory gardens.

47:27

We called them victory gardens because the campaign was if

47:30

you don't grow your own food, we're all going to lose. The war

47:33

if you grow your own food, we will be victorious.

47:35

Russians long knew this. Russians had really

47:38

built really complex systems of what

47:41

we call today peasant farming systems, where

47:43

there was a lot of redundancy and a lot of hyper

47:45

local marketplaces for food systems. Russians

47:48

survived some of the worst fast

47:50

starvation events in history

47:52

during World War two, and they won the war against

47:54

the Third Reich for their resilience,

47:57

and a lot of that resilience was their connection in age,

48:00

their proximity to their food system.

48:03

Their Germans ultimately failed because they had three

48:05

thousand mile supply chains and the food couldn't

48:07

get to them. Today, the United States

48:10

of America is failing because we have three thousand mile

48:12

supply chains to the food that's not grown here

48:14

in this country anymore, because all of our soil is dead.

48:17

The cost of putting seed in the ground

48:19

now exceeds the cost that they can be sold

48:21

for. And so we have all these governed

48:24

subsidies to keep telling farmers to plant

48:26

genetically modified crops and put them under

48:28

dollar expensive high

48:31

intensity inputs, which is

48:33

bankrupt between basically every farm and they're

48:35

all on life support economically getting these

48:37

subsidies that we call USDA Crop Insurance

48:39

and all these fake things boosting

48:43

up dead soil, dead dirt.

48:45

And so if there is a belief of homeland

48:48

security, if there's really a belief of nations

48:50

are capable of safety,

48:53

you have to begin with the soil. And presidents

48:55

long back I've recognized this. Franklin

48:57

Delamo Roosevelt said the future of every

48:59

country is in their soil. And

49:01

he said that because we were in the dust Bowl, which

49:04

was a devastation of our top soils due to poor

49:06

farming practice, and we were starving as a nation. My

49:08

grandfather worked in the White House with the

49:10

Roosevelts, and he was the head

49:12

of Philansbury and the New Deal in getting

49:14

these soup kitchens rebuilt, and so

49:16

traveling around with Elinori Roosevelt serving

49:18

suit lines that were miles long of

49:21

people starving in this country because

49:23

they're top soil to died. So twice

49:25

in a single century we've destroyed our top

49:27

soils through poor understanding

49:29

of biology originally and now a codependence

49:32

on chemical farming and antibiotics

49:34

as a mechanism for growing food, and

49:36

so for that we have three thousand mile supply

49:38

chains and every city has now become

49:41

a really vulnerable island. And

49:43

we saw that in the pandemic. Suddenly the grocery store

49:45

shelves were empty because the ships couldn't

49:47

get into the ports, the trucks had stopped driving,

49:49

and there was no food on shelves. Is

49:51

a very desperate situation we're in the United

49:54

States, but unfortunately we have exported

49:56

that behavior of food systems to

49:58

the entire developed world. London

50:00

is now as vulnerable as the United States, and the rest.

50:03

Paris is vulnerable. Los Angeles,

50:05

where we sit today, has a three day food supply

50:09

to millions and millions of people, and

50:11

so if an earthquake happens and

50:13

disrupts the one highway system that comes into

50:15

Los Angeles, we will lose

50:17

our food supply in three days, and we will have a massive

50:20

riot and humanitarian crisis on our hands.

50:23

We are an island unto ourselves, and our food is

50:25

three thousand miles away and we're not realizing

50:27

it. Instead, we have forty

50:30

million acres of grass that we can't eat, and

50:32

we're spraying that with roundup in our backyards

50:35

to kill the few dandelions, which are the only edible

50:37

and anti cancer compound that's in your backyard

50:39

right now. And so we need to start realizing

50:41

we need to eat that dandalion green, not

50:44

the dandeline flower. Even before it flowers.

50:46

You're eating that green, and you're getting the nutrients,

50:48

and you're getting life back in and you go

50:50

beyond that and you say, let's get some beats and turnips

50:52

and all the rest. Let's get some other root vegetables in there,

50:55

and suddenly your backyard could turn into

50:57

a bounty of safety for your family,

51:00

for your community and the rest. And so this is the

51:02

paradigm shift that Farmer's Footprint is really working

51:04

on, is can we realize how

51:07

vulnerable we've made ourselves as individuals,

51:09

not just at the biological level level of our chronic disease,

51:11

but also the societal level as

51:13

we have divorced ourselves from soil.

51:16

Is there any way I mean hearing that, is

51:18

there any way to

51:21

have an optimal life still

51:24

eating from a supermarket like the idea

51:26

that you know, I'm

51:29

assuming that the majority of people listening

51:31

are not going to rush to

51:33

start growing something in their backyard, not that they should

51:35

not, and not that we're not encouraging

51:38

it. I think it's incredible when people can.

51:40

But again, going back

51:42

to that conditioning habit

51:44

formation, all the challenges that come with

51:46

that, what can we eat

51:49

or how do we eat in order

51:51

to protect ourselves?

51:52

Well, we learned it in space. During the pandemic.

51:56

You might remember there was a moment where we every

51:58

place in the country sold out of seeds

52:01

and so we started growing again. And

52:03

we're seeing a very exciting movement in young people

52:06

right now. A lot of people are leaving the

52:08

cities to go start farming. They've

52:10

never farmed before, they have absolutely no idea, but

52:12

they have this deep knowingness inside of them that I'm

52:14

supposed to get not just to a farm,

52:16

but I'm supposed to build community around that farm. So

52:18

I'm going to take me and my best ten friends and we're

52:20

going to move out into the country and we're going to start farming.

52:23

And the regenera agricultural movement has been led

52:25

mostly by women and mostly by youth in

52:28

this country, and so there is a real movement

52:30

not just here but now as we've spawned

52:32

farmers footprint in the UK, farmers footprint in Australia,

52:35

the Western world is starting to reimagine its

52:38

relationship to food and soil. And

52:40

it's really the women and the youth that are

52:42

finding this path forward for us. And it's

52:44

because I think deep inside of that feminine

52:46

archetype that we all have access to male

52:48

female arrest. That femine

52:51

archetype is about nurture and it is about

52:53

connection, and that's ultimately

52:55

what I believe the regenda of agriculture movement

52:58

is. In one word, it is a reconnect. Reconnect

53:00

to nature and there's many ways to

53:02

do it, and there's not a prescription for here's a regenitive

53:05

farm. It's about listening into your

53:07

nature, listening into the reality

53:09

that's trying to express itself on that piece of land,

53:12

and then being in support of that rather

53:14

than trying to micromanage that thing. And

53:16

so that's very much a femine archetype

53:18

we can all connect to, is how do we let life

53:21

start coming into our lives in a biodverse

53:23

fashion. It doesn't necessarily

53:25

have to happen, just that the food and the soil can

53:27

happen with your community and

53:29

the inputs you're taking on. If

53:32

your input every day is CNN

53:34

or Fox News, you're gonna become a monocrop

53:37

almost immediately. You're gonna lose all biodiversity

53:39

of information. You're gonna become very monotonous

53:41

in your belief systems. You're going to be very

53:44

easy to push into a small box of fear, gill

53:46

in shame. If you go out

53:48

and nature and spend hours a day hiking

53:50

and walking through nature and smelling real

53:53

soil and touching ferns and

53:56

being in awe of the wildflower and bathing

53:59

in a waterfall, you can't

54:01

be put in the same box because you

54:03

are seeing the complexity and beauty of nature

54:05

that predated our existence, let alone

54:07

the existence of a television or a news

54:09

channel or whatever it is. And so the

54:12

excitement is for me, as far as

54:14

way as this might sound to you right now, to be growing

54:16

your own food all this time, you're just a few

54:18

seconds away from your introduction to that

54:21

universe. Get out to

54:23

a park, preet a park,

54:25

even lay down in somebody's

54:27

yard that has a tree. If you lay

54:29

down on your back and look up through the branches of

54:31

a tree at a blue sky that has clouds

54:34

passing over, your brain will

54:36

start to rewire just with that light

54:38

pattern that's coming through that tree, because

54:40

in that it's like looking into a fire. If

54:42

you can't do the tree, stare into a fire

54:44

at night. If you can't do a fire, stare into a candle.

54:47

Because in the frequencies of those inputs

54:50

into our neurology, we put

54:52

in information in the form of storytelling.

54:56

A recent study demonstrated that if we look

54:58

down at a fire, a fireplace

55:00

between us here, If we look down at a fire

55:03

around a campfire, the like all

55:05

the stem cells in our bodies turn on. They

55:07

tried to figure out, like, how is how are stem cells

55:09

being activated by the fire, and turned

55:11

out that it had to do with not

55:14

just the fire and its presence, but our

55:16

eye trajectory too. If I looked

55:19

past the fire and didn't look into the fire, my stem

55:21

cells didn't turn on. But if I dropped my gaze

55:23

away from the horizon and looked down at the fire,

55:25

my stem cells turn on. And

55:28

I believe it a story of instead of chasing

55:30

the future on the horizon, we need to look

55:32

down into the

55:35

energy that is between us, this fire

55:37

that sits between us. We look down for a moment become

55:39

present instead of future looking to the

55:42

horizon. We've become present enough to sit

55:44

in stillness and watch that vibrational

55:47

experience of a red coal glowing

55:50

and pulsing in the night. There's

55:53

something in that that remembers

55:55

ourselves. And it was around

55:57

those fires that we sang our first songs,

56:00

danced our first dances, and told our first

56:02

stories as humanity. And that

56:04

runs all the way to dead Today. The

56:07

place I have felt as an

56:09

earth lean for the first time in my half

56:12

a century, it's in the African

56:14

bush around fire, listening

56:16

to African drums, hearing the vibration

56:19

of voices and tongues that

56:21

I have forgotten existed, and

56:24

remembering that I find my humanity

56:26

again. I realize I am from here, I

56:28

do belong here, and I am of this place

56:32

that is remembered around a fire. Looking

56:34

down and so gather

56:36

around a candle or a fire, whatever

56:38

it is. It start to tell stories again of

56:41

things remembered or of yesterday

56:43

if you need to, but start telling story

56:45

around flame, and that is maybe

56:48

your journey back into growing a piece of

56:50

food yourself in your backyard. There's

56:52

going to be a deep remembrance of you. Of This is what

56:54

peace feels like, This is what that

56:56

pause does. Staring into the flame

56:59

you can find in the silence necessary to

57:01

find that guiding sense

57:03

within you that we call intuition, that

57:06

guiding sense that you have followed in your career

57:08

to bring you to the success you've had. And

57:10

so we all have that immediately available

57:13

before we've even grown in our own food, before

57:15

we've grown anything. All of that is intact.

57:18

And I have again and again seen people

57:21

on the deathbed. As a hospice doctor,

57:23

I was admitting eighty patients a week to die.

57:27

So I've seen a lot of things that we call death.

57:29

And even when biology is completely failing

57:32

and they have a few heartbeat beads left,

57:34

a few breaths yet to take, they

57:36

can get into that fire moment and

57:39

they are crossing the veil on their back again. They're

57:41

crossing the veil and they're coming back. And then they open their

57:43

eyes. And it happens so so often.

57:46

Some of you who's been kind of in this comatose milieu

57:49

of barely here, suddenly comes

57:52

crystal clear, looks you in the face and says

57:54

a deep truth that may or may

57:56

not make sense as you the receiver, but in saying

57:58

it, you can see them reconnect to their original

58:00

self and they are more true to themselves

58:02

in that moment of death than they ever were in

58:05

their state of living, in a

58:07

state of disconnect. And

58:10

so it doesn't matter how close

58:12

you are to death. That firelight

58:14

is burning inside of you, if not in front of

58:16

you, and in the silence in front

58:19

of that fire, you can remember why you came here

58:21

and why you did what you did. On

58:23

purpose is your show, and

58:26

it turns out purposes not outside of you. It's

58:28

not something to go find, it's not something to go discover.

58:31

That purpose is you being you, that

58:34

original math that vibrates to animate

58:36

your biology into a living life form

58:38

for a moment that we would

58:40

call a human life span. You're

58:43

vibrating there, and the purpose is to

58:45

be you in this form, to

58:47

take in the light energy of the cosmos, of

58:49

the food you eat, and express it in vitality

58:52

within that liquid crystal of your body,

58:54

to vibrate. It's the vibration

58:57

that makes you alive. And that vibration

59:00

can be shaped by your thoughts, your beliefs,

59:02

the words you carry, and the feelings that you have

59:04

towards one another. And so this

59:06

is our moment right now, as we can burn

59:09

bright at our death moment on our

59:11

deathbed, sixty years, eighty years left,

59:13

however long is there on our march into

59:15

that we can rebirth now, to come off

59:17

of hospice and become a new species, become

59:20

a new humanity, become a new expression

59:22

as we lose fear, guilt and shame because we look past

59:24

the death that we all fear and realize

59:26

that life is abundant, and it's infinite,

59:28

and it's always in its next transformation,

59:31

next expression, which is always chasing

59:33

more beauty and more intelligence than the rest.

59:36

And so we sit here around a fire now

59:38

talking about the demise of all things to

59:41

realize the birth of everything.

59:43

I find your response is

59:45

so refreshing. There

59:47

is such a rejuvenation and rebirth

59:50

hearing the ideas that you're sharing with the

59:52

world, because I can definitely

59:56

personally attest to so many of the things that you're

59:58

mentioning, whether it's lying down

1:00:00

under the tree looking through the branches, whether

1:00:02

it's deeply

1:00:05

excavating and looking at the roots

1:00:07

of a plant, whether it's looking out into

1:00:09

the sky or cloud gazing, which is probably

1:00:12

one of my favorite things to do, which is

1:00:14

why I live where I live, or whether

1:00:17

it may be just feeling reconnected.

1:00:20

One of my favorite things was when

1:00:23

my wife and I went to Hawaii a few years

1:00:25

ago, and we

1:00:27

fell in love with it because we felt

1:00:30

the people there had

1:00:32

their own language for a culture

1:00:34

that we've learned differently.

1:00:37

So having studied the Vaders,

1:00:41

the worship of the Sun and the moon as such big

1:00:43

parts of the Vaders, and when we were in Hawaii,

1:00:46

we would go out on a kayak every

1:00:48

morning and pay our respects to

1:00:50

the Sun, and it always felt beautiful to do it in the

1:00:52

Hawaiian culture and through

1:00:55

their traditions, and I remembered we

1:00:58

walked around where they were showing us

1:01:00

and the writings and the stories

1:01:02

on their rock and there

1:01:05

was this one particular one which repeated

1:01:07

itself, which was a expanding

1:01:10

circle. And it was said that whenever

1:01:13

a child is born in Hawaii, it's

1:01:15

umbilical cord is placed on the earth and

1:01:17

a circle is drawn around

1:01:19

it in that very spot, so they can always come back to

1:01:21

that and remember that they're always connected

1:01:23

to the earth and that's what they belong. It's

1:01:25

incredible how these very simple ideas

1:01:28

can be so sacred and so powerful.

1:01:31

As you said, internally, you feel these

1:01:33

things don't necessarily make sense in your head,

1:01:35

or you can't compute

1:01:37

them in a logical reasoning

1:01:40

point of view, but you can feel them. Even

1:01:42

when we were there, you could see it and you could

1:01:44

feel it. You mentioned

1:01:46

twice there, you mentioned at the beginning breath

1:01:49

as one of the elements. You then mentioned it again when

1:01:51

people in their last breath. Could

1:01:54

you walk us through the same kind of refreshing

1:01:57

insight on breath.

1:02:00

Mechanism of breathing is the allowance

1:02:03

to create new life. And

1:02:05

we exhale so that we can breathe back in. And

1:02:08

if you've ever been told suddenly in an audience, like okay,

1:02:10

everybody, inhale, it's very hard

1:02:12

to inhale because they didn't tell you to exhale,

1:02:14

And so to really take a good inhalation, you've

1:02:16

got to tell the whole audience, all right, everybody, exhale, blow

1:02:19

it all out, blow it all out, blown out. Now you can inhale,

1:02:22

and in that exhalation, you're

1:02:24

basically exchanging the life

1:02:26

force with the environment around you. When

1:02:29

I exhale, I push out millions

1:02:32

of different little tiny variants of my genetics

1:02:35

through something called micro rna. It's basically my version

1:02:38

of expressing a viral

1:02:41

message to the world of here's who

1:02:43

I am right now, here's what I'm expressing genetically,

1:02:45

here's what's happening. So I have a genetic signal

1:02:47

that I breathe out, and I have a new

1:02:49

potential for life that I breathe out in the form of

1:02:51

carbon dioxide that I just derived from all

1:02:53

the glucose and fatty acids that I'm deriving

1:02:56

all of that sunlight from. So I'm

1:02:59

releasing sunlight and then I give back the CO two

1:03:01

to the atmosphere so I can breathe it back in.

1:03:04

And turns out I need CO two exchange.

1:03:06

I need to breathe it as much as they need to exhale it,

1:03:09

because it's really the pulse

1:03:11

of life, and it's the way

1:03:14

in which I use oxygen at the sider level.

1:03:16

So I can't use oxygen unless I've got CO two.

1:03:18

So I breathe out a big gift of CO two in the

1:03:21

atmosphere gives me back CO two in a

1:03:23

ratio that allows me to use aucygen more effectively.

1:03:26

And so CO two is really the coursing

1:03:28

bloodstream of life itself. It's

1:03:30

the currency of life,

1:03:33

and so that currency of energy is pulsing

1:03:36

with every breath, and when I start to develop an

1:03:38

addiction to breathing, I don't take

1:03:40

that deep breath, and instead I have all these short

1:03:42

little breasts that I take all the time because I'm in a fight or

1:03:44

flight state, and I don't slow

1:03:47

that respiration down. My neurology is reading

1:03:49

all the time panic and

1:03:51

so in the same way that we're addicted to water that

1:03:53

can ever turn into a liquid crystal, and therefore

1:03:55

we're always thirsty. In the same way,

1:03:57

I always taking all sixteen to twenty

1:03:59

breaths a minute because I'm afraid I'm going

1:04:01

to run out of air because I haven't been

1:04:03

taught to actually breathe, And

1:04:05

so the planet is now doing this as well as

1:04:08

humans. The planet

1:04:10

can't take a deep breath right now because its lungs

1:04:12

are the soil system. We've

1:04:14

now killed ninety seven percent of the soil systems

1:04:17

the planet. Ninety seven percent of arable

1:04:19

soils on the planet are now depleted,

1:04:21

are severely deproleted of their metabols

1:04:23

and their ability to breathe. In

1:04:26

an ideal state, this planet breathes in a

1:04:28

deep breath at night and then exhales

1:04:31

in the morning, and you can watch

1:04:33

this happen, especially in humid areas.

1:04:35

I live in Virginia and along the Blue Ridge Mountains

1:04:37

at night, if you stand up high on the mountains,

1:04:40

you get to see that the forests of Virginia

1:04:42

breathe in and these it looks like banks

1:04:44

of clouds, suddenly gets sucked down

1:04:46

onto the surface of the trees, and then down

1:04:49

into the canopy and down into the earth. And

1:04:51

so the trees are returning the breath

1:04:54

to the soil and with it all the water.

1:04:57

In the morning it exhales, and all that

1:04:59

water or appears on the surface as dew, on

1:05:02

the grass and in the canopy and everywhere. Well,

1:05:04

that de is now very cold because it

1:05:06

was breathed out by a deep geothermal

1:05:09

cooling thing that we call the planet. The

1:05:12

warming of the planet is not being caused

1:05:14

by CO two or greenhouse

1:05:17

gases. We've been given a very half

1:05:19

truth by our political systems that

1:05:22

with Al Gore and the rest have said CO two is

1:05:24

our crisis. We've now pledged forty

1:05:26

trillion dollars by twenty fifty to suck CO

1:05:28

two oul asim atmosphere and all that because

1:05:30

we've been told it's the problem, but

1:05:33

in fact, whether it's a dying patient of the bedside you

1:05:35

can no longer breathe, or me addicted

1:05:37

to my short breathing, or the planet that's

1:05:39

lost its lungs. And now, as emphasema, CO

1:05:42

two starts rising the atmosphere and the heat

1:05:44

goes up because we're not bringing that into

1:05:46

the earth and out of the earth, into the earth, out of the Earth

1:05:48

on a daily basis to cool the planet. We

1:05:51

lost the lungs. Therefore we've lost the

1:05:53

exchange of life through CO two and we lost

1:05:55

the geothermal cooling that comes

1:05:58

with breath. And so the plant

1:06:00

it has a fever, not for CO two,

1:06:02

but for a lack of breath. And

1:06:05

so this is the transit that we need to do

1:06:07

as a planetary participant,

1:06:10

is we need to be part of the solution. We need

1:06:12

to allow the Earth to breathe again. I

1:06:15

find it interesting that, you know, we always

1:06:17

find the micro story in the macrocosm,

1:06:20

and you find it fractally, which means at every

1:06:22

single level of expression of nature you'll

1:06:24

find the same truth. And here we

1:06:26

were in the middle of the pandemic where people were going

1:06:29

blue because the oxygen

1:06:31

could not exchange from their blood cells into their

1:06:33

cells, perhaps in part due

1:06:35

to a virus, but deeper than that, we had covered

1:06:37

our planet in the highest levels of carbon contamination

1:06:40

in history because of the largest fires that had raged

1:06:43

for the year and a half before the pandemic,

1:06:45

and then all the way through the pandemic, we had the largest

1:06:47

fires all over the world that had ever happened. So

1:06:50

for all the poisoning in the atmosphere, we had cyanide

1:06:52

in the air levels unprecedented. We were breathing

1:06:54

in sinie, which causes this respiratory

1:06:57

failure. We were ascribing it again just to the

1:06:59

virus. I think it was a lot of different factors happening

1:07:01

at that time. We were losing our ability to breathe.

1:07:04

Meanwhile, the planet's warming up, warming up, warming

1:07:06

up, and coot's going up in the atmosphere. We can't

1:07:09

breathe, the planet can't breathe, We couldn't breathe a species.

1:07:11

And then we get this extraordinarily tragic

1:07:14

moment where we watch a police officer with his

1:07:16

knee on the neck of an African American

1:07:18

man and who dies in the streets screaming,

1:07:20

I cannot breathe. At

1:07:22

every one of those fractal levels, we got to witness

1:07:25

the suffocation of life, and

1:07:28

it was suffocating in that moment with

1:07:30

a police officers too afraid to move, and

1:07:33

maybe angry, maybe lots of other negative emotions

1:07:35

in there, but ultimately it's fear of death,

1:07:38

fear of different, being different, fear of everything

1:07:41

other than self. So that knee

1:07:43

stays on. And right now

1:07:45

we have our proverbial knee on the neck

1:07:47

of this planet. We are not letting this planet breathe

1:07:50

because we're afraid we might go hungry. So we're waiting

1:07:52

for technology to save us. So we have more and more genetic

1:07:54

technologies. We have robots trying to mind

1:07:56

food out of the earth. We're waiting for more and more

1:07:58

technology, and we just will not let the knee

1:08:01

off the neck of the planet because we're afraid

1:08:03

she won't provide for us. We

1:08:06

need to let the knee up. We need to be confident

1:08:09

that we are one species, that is the

1:08:11

compilation of hundreds of thousands of species

1:08:13

that has made life possible. We need to start

1:08:15

to breathe together. We need to move

1:08:17

to a point where there is grace rather than

1:08:19

fear, where there is joy rather than guilt,

1:08:22

there is love rather than shame. And

1:08:25

to get there, we're going to have to

1:08:27

trust that we are supposed

1:08:29

to be here. We are not the

1:08:31

cancer of the planet. We are the potential

1:08:34

energy of the planet. We are the highest expression

1:08:36

that the planet has made so far, and

1:08:38

we can stay to play if we choose. And

1:08:40

so we need to take the neck off the planet. We

1:08:42

need to take the knee off the

1:08:44

neck of the planet, take the knee off the neck of one another,

1:08:47

and start to move in a state of abundance.

1:08:49

And we will do this as we find those quiet

1:08:52

spies around the flame, breathe

1:08:54

slower, breathe deeper,

1:08:57

as individuals, as a planet, and

1:09:00

in so doing start to feel the future.

1:09:04

And this is the mystery that we see baking

1:09:07

all over the world. I'm very gifted in

1:09:09

my career right now that i get to travel all over

1:09:11

the place all the time. And so in

1:09:13

the more than one and a half million miles

1:09:16

I've flown over the last ten years, I've gotten to meet

1:09:18

nearly every people group on the planet. And

1:09:20

I've spent time in so many continents

1:09:22

over the last couple of years, and

1:09:24

for all of the fear and guilt and shame that we just

1:09:26

exercise as a plan that I have never seen

1:09:29

more optimism, more excitement, more

1:09:31

of that bubbling energy of oh my gosh,

1:09:33

it's about to arrive. We are about

1:09:35

to arrive. Something is about to happen.

1:09:38

This is so exciting to be alive right

1:09:40

now. I hear that all the time. It's

1:09:42

so exciting to be alive right now. So

1:09:45

what is the light that's shining so bright in

1:09:47

humanity as our biologic light

1:09:49

dims. I think it's the original

1:09:52

math. I think it's the soul. The

1:09:55

energy that animates life is burning bright

1:09:57

right now because it is not diminished by

1:09:59

the energies that it was putting into the biologic

1:10:02

expression of humanity. It is burning brighter because

1:10:04

it says, look beyond the flesh

1:10:06

to find the truth, and in that energy

1:10:09

field you will find the new life that will code

1:10:11

for your new future. And so we

1:10:13

have to get to that hospice moment. We have to

1:10:15

let the lights almost die out so

1:10:17

we can cross the veil and see the truth and then come

1:10:19

back and change everything.

1:10:21

Incredible, Doctor Zach Bush. If anyone's

1:10:23

listening right now and they want to find that

1:10:25

optimism. Maybe join your eight day

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1:10:32

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The easiest place for all the work is Zachbush

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1:10:47

the deep soil science and the supplements

1:10:50

and everything else that have come out of that soil science

1:10:52

and the study of life state and the solutions

1:10:54

to it. There's an opportunity

1:10:56

for you guys to engage also just in community

1:10:59

with us, because it's one thing to take

1:11:01

a supplement or take a class,

1:11:03

but ultimately, if we don't come into connected community,

1:11:06

we're not going to create that future that we have. And

1:11:08

so there's an opportunity for you to engage in the

1:11:10

community platforms that we've been creating across

1:11:12

many of these products, going deeper than the product

1:11:14

to really start to create the

1:11:16

solutions for the future that we can all

1:11:18

feel is already here. And that's my

1:11:21

greatest excitement is watching people come together.

1:11:23

There's something called quorum sensing that I find

1:11:25

really beautiful. When you get enough

1:11:27

biodiversity into a living environment.

1:11:29

Suddenly the whole thing does something more intelligent

1:11:32

than any constituent can do. And

1:11:34

so we need to do a quorum sensing moment

1:11:37

as not just humanity, but as a planet. And

1:11:39

so we need to connect to our ecosystems and diversity

1:11:41

and cultures and for their diversity, the

1:11:44

arts and their diversity, the dance and the storytelling

1:11:46

and the flames and a million different iterations.

1:11:48

Then we need to bring that in together for

1:11:51

a very bright flame to burn and for us

1:11:53

to connect to that quorum sensing moment where

1:11:55

we do quantum intelligence not from the mind,

1:11:57

but from that knowingness within you community

1:12:00

connect that we've we hope to meet you.

1:12:02

It's beautiful. Thank you so much. I hope that everyone

1:12:04

has been listening and watching. I hope you go

1:12:06

and check it out. And Zach, we end every

1:12:09

episode of On Purpose with a final

1:12:11

five or a fast five, and these

1:12:13

questions have to be answered in one word to one sentence

1:12:15

maximum, And Zach

1:12:18

Bush, these are your final fives. So the first

1:12:20

is, what is the best advice you've

1:12:22

ever heard, given or received?

1:12:25

Slow down?

1:12:27

What is the worst advice you've ever heard

1:12:30

or received?

1:12:31

Stop?

1:12:31

Moving, Stop moving? Question

1:12:35

number three, what's something that you used

1:12:37

to value that you no longer value

1:12:39

anymore?

1:12:41

Marriage?

1:12:42

Interesting? In what sense?

1:12:45

You said? One word?

1:12:46

Yeah, and now I'm digressing.

1:12:50

It was my most important value system

1:12:52

through most of my life. And

1:12:55

it's not to say that marriage is not important

1:12:58

on our human journey, but

1:13:02

it was the course of miracles that really unveiled what

1:13:04

was happening in my effort towards

1:13:06

marriage. And I enjoyed my marriage at twenty year marriage

1:13:08

with my wife and two amazing kids.

1:13:11

And then she found a new path, and there

1:13:14

was a decision whether to see that as a failure

1:13:16

or to actually, for the

1:13:18

first time in our twenty years together,

1:13:21

practiced the unpart of unconditional

1:13:23

love. And I realized

1:13:26

during our journey towards divorce,

1:13:28

when I realized that she was definitely going to take this other

1:13:31

pass, it was a realization of I

1:13:33

really do love this person, and I'm sitting here telling

1:13:35

her how much I love her, and therefore she shouldn't leave

1:13:37

me. Oh my gosh,

1:13:41

what is that? That is the deepest condition

1:13:43

I could possibly I love you, but only if

1:13:45

you stay right next to me, and I own this

1:13:47

thing, and so that was my journey

1:13:50

personally and to deep

1:13:52

heartbreak that led to the deepest

1:13:54

joy that a person cann't have. Is the exercise

1:13:57

of unconditional love. And

1:13:59

I certainly I didn't do it perfectly. I didn't

1:14:01

do it well, But my gosh, did I live

1:14:03

differently after that moment where I realized

1:14:05

I can love her on this path that she knows

1:14:08

she's chosen. And we've gotten to watch both

1:14:10

of us bloom into people we could have never become

1:14:12

in that marriage because it was

1:14:14

a box that was an agreement of

1:14:16

no change. And

1:14:19

as we back up, I think we're going to realize that we

1:14:21

put love and relationship into

1:14:23

a box of ownership just in the last couple hundred

1:14:26

years. It never existed before. We developed

1:14:28

this ownership model so we could pass wealth

1:14:30

from generation to generation, not

1:14:32

realizing when we built the box, we

1:14:35

would crush love, which

1:14:37

is ultimately the capacity to see beauty in another.

1:14:40

And if for a moment you think you can own another's

1:14:42

beauty, you have stolen it from them ultimately,

1:14:45

and they will become miserable and you will forget why you

1:14:47

fell in love with them because you can't see their beauty anymore.

1:14:49

And so in a radical way. We're

1:14:51

going to have to release each other from the

1:14:54

boxes we put each other in. It

1:14:56

doesn't mean the end of relationship is probably the

1:14:58

birth of human relationship. Maybe for the time,

1:15:00

but certainly in recent modern times.

1:15:02

We're going to have to release ourselves from the box and we have

1:15:04

to do partnership relationships

1:15:06

in much, much radically different ways. And they're

1:15:08

going to have to come out of the fear of not having

1:15:11

enough love and start to come from an

1:15:13

abundance model where everything.

1:15:15

Is love, beautiful. Thank

1:15:17

you for sharing that, thank you for opening up, and that's

1:15:20

really really beautiful to hear. I'm glad.

1:15:22

I asked us to go off piece

1:15:24

to orr a question of before, what's something you're trying

1:15:26

to learn right now? Are skilled?

1:15:28

You're trying to learn beauty

1:15:31

the witness of beauty.

1:15:32

And the fifth and final question is if you could

1:15:34

create one law that everyone in the

1:15:37

world had to follow, what would it be?

1:15:39

Biodiversity?

1:15:40

Could you expand so that we can contextualize

1:15:43

it.

1:15:44

There's a known

1:15:46

phenomenon of blue zones around the planet where

1:15:48

people tend to live a past one hundred years, and so here

1:15:50

we are on the Number one Health podcast, in

1:15:52

the world what makes people live

1:15:55

longer than one hundred years? And we've tried to boil

1:15:57

it down to nutrition, and we found that almost everyone to make

1:15:59

completely differently, and some of them

1:16:01

made only cooked food, only meat, only veggies,

1:16:04

the whole thing only raw. We saw it

1:16:06

all. In the end, what we have found

1:16:08

is that those that will live on our years live

1:16:10

in a culture and communities that hold at

1:16:12

their highest value the opportunity for new connection

1:16:14

to buy a diverse ideas and peoples.

1:16:17

And this was taught to me by a couple out of Ikorea,

1:16:19

Greece, a Grecian island that is an incredible

1:16:21

blue zone there, and they

1:16:24

came and prepared a traditional five course

1:16:26

Greek meal for a group of us, and

1:16:29

I gave this toast at the end that said, you know, this

1:16:31

is the micro biome being nourished, and we'll live forever. We'll

1:16:33

be like a blue zone because the nourishment is so to

1:16:35

eat, the nutrients were so rich, it was all from so

1:16:38

this beautiful thing. I was crying. Everybody's crying. Is a

1:16:40

beautiful toast. And then guy from Akorea

1:16:42

stands up and says, doctor, that was very interesting, but you're

1:16:44

completely wrong, and he

1:16:47

said that the only reason we live past one hundred years

1:16:49

is not for what we eat, but is because every night

1:16:51

there's a chair set at our table,

1:16:53

hoping that somebody we don't know shows up and

1:16:56

shares that meal with us. In Korea, we never

1:16:58

ask each other what did you eat last night? We always

1:17:00

ask who did you eat with last night? And

1:17:03

that's what we're missing from society today.

1:17:05

And so when we talk about biodiversity, it's

1:17:07

certainly true at the soil level. If we don't start

1:17:09

living for the soil beneath our feet and enriching

1:17:12

that with every action we take,

1:17:14

whether it be a political move, a social move,

1:17:16

and industrial move, economic

1:17:18

move, if it's not supporting the soil,

1:17:21

we would destroy ourselves in the same way. If

1:17:23

we continue to listen in the echo chamber

1:17:26

of our minds and those people we are

1:17:28

married to, and we create these nuclear

1:17:30

families, and we listen to the same box every day,

1:17:32

whether it be a TV or

1:17:35

our own brain, we will diminish

1:17:37

our biodiverse ideas and our biodiverse

1:17:39

capacity for creativity, and therefore we will

1:17:41

lose the opportunity to stay in play.

1:17:43

Doctor Zach Bush, thank you for such a fascinating

1:17:46

and unique conversation, one

1:17:49

that was full of refreshing insights

1:17:51

and ideas. And I'm hoping to everyone who's listening

1:17:53

and watching, wherever you are in the world, I hope that you will go

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and follow doctor Zach Bush learn more

1:17:57

about his incredible work, to

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tag us both and share your insights,

1:18:02

your takeaways, the nuggets that stood

1:18:04

out to you. Maybe there were messages or

1:18:07

words that are ones that

1:18:09

you're going to hold on to and it's going to shift the way

1:18:11

that you practice your health and wellness routines

1:18:14

and regimes. And so if you've been listening

1:18:16

on watching, make sure you tag us and share

1:18:18

what you learned and what you gained from this episode.

1:18:21

And doctor Zach Burst, thank you so much for your time,

1:18:23

your energy, your presence and

1:18:26

everything that you've shared with us today. Thank you so much.

1:18:28

Honored be heard and seen by you.

1:18:30

Very grateful. Thank you. If you love this

1:18:32

episode, you'll enjoy my interview

1:18:34

with doctor Daniel Ahman on how to

1:18:37

change your life by changing your brain.

1:18:39

If we want a healthy mind,

1:18:42

it actually starts with a

1:18:44

healthy brain. You know, I've had the

1:18:47

blessing or the curse to scam

1:18:49

Over a thousand convicted felons

1:18:52

and over one hundred murderers, and

1:18:54

their brains are very damaged.