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Real Blond with Mario
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Mario Courtney Lopez joining me now in studio
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the Taco from the Mass Singer
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Dancing with the Star. Welcome
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back to the show, my friend. Are you I'm
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well, I'm well Now I love that you were
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the Taco. Okay, so let's talk
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about it. Uh. Did you
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have a personal connection to the taco costume?
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What was the significance of that? None? Uh
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to tacos, I consumed
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them regularly, But I was the last
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person cast. Uh? Is
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he was executive producing when you did dancing
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right? Yes? Yes, well she's executive producing.
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Mass singer Rob Wade is over. Rob
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is the head over. He
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knew them when Mario did when so
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is? He saw that I had sung a tune
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for a Mr. Rogers tribute album,
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and she called me and said, look, I
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saw you sang this song. This might
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be daft, but would you be
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interested in Mass Singer? I said, Hey, if I
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could reunite with all you guys, sure, She
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said, we only have two costumes left because you're
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the last person for grouping. Well,
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they had cast everybody else for that group. The
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only two left were the Taco
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and a jellyfish.
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They do and they just looked. You know, it looked weird,
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and not that this didn't look weird, but it was
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more adorably weird. Everybody
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loves it time. Sure, um
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here, I thought this was really cool. Some of the guesses
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were Alec Baldwin and Regis
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filled In. Yes, two very cool people.
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Right? Did anyone come close to guess?
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The most flattering guesses were, especially
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after the Sonatra tune, Harry
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Connick Jr. Um Michael
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boublaying like that. The
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closest was Robin in that
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first show I did when he guessed sag It sag
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it, although he didn't take the height
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differential into account, right, right, But
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I thought they were getting so close then
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they would nail it, and nobody did even
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I mean, you know, I know Robert, I know Nicole, you
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know Jenny from years ago, and yeah
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I didn't get it. Wow? Uh did?
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What song would you have saying? Next? Well? Had
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I gone on, I would have gone back to the
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boubleticonic Sinatra
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songbook. That's sort of where I'm more comfortable.
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Yeah, well I don't. I've
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got some range, but it's you know, Selene
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Dion isn't threatened. How
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hard was it to keep the secret. It's
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not that hard. Well from from
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people outside the show. To
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give you a little backstory, we have two daughters.
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When my wife was pregnant with our first daughter,
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I wanted to find out the sex and she
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didn't. So the ultrasound
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towards the end of the first term, the doctor pulled
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me aside told me you're having a girl.
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Lois at that point wanted to be surprised,
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so for six months kept I
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kept the secret from my own wife
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what sex she was carrying. Never slipped.
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Never, well, no, there
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was one time that I sedentally put
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a female pronoun out there, and I
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engineered a call to a friend. We were living in the
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Boston area, engineered to call to a friend out
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here and wove the conversation, which
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I knew she was listening to, to that
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very question. And I lied and I said, well,
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you know, Chuck, I interchanged male
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and female pronouns all the time. So
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she that thought, oh, I guess he does.
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I never had, but she bought
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into that revisionist history. That's funny.
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All three of our kids we waited to find
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out, did you. We did wait to find out so
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convincing at first, because I wanted to know. I didn't
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want to know, and that you did want to know. Correct. The first
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one, yes, you think you want to prepare and
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there's so many things that you need to do, but after
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it was so much fun. Yeah, it was so much
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fun. So the other two we were just like, yeah, whatever,
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and we just waited. So were you surprised
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in any of those three cases? I thought
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the first one was a boy. I was convinced
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it was a boy and she was a girl.
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You know how I convinced Lois Uh
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deviously that it was a boy. I
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was hosting a daily live talk show in Boss
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and at the time it was like Oprah kind of
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filled Donahue, different topic every day.
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One of the shows was circumcision pro
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or con and I brought
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home. I brought home the material and
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happens to be a subject convert. What
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was what was
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put your pants back on? Show?
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So I other than Jewish
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Jewish faith and I
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made I made out that I was even more uncomfortable
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with the whole conversation. So she presumed
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we must be having a boy and he's wrestling with
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whether we do this or not, which was perfect.
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So she thought it was going to be a boy. That's
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funny. You did a whole subject. I
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was Machiavelli in with it right
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and you actually have sang before you
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were on the Mr. Rogers tribute album right
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right together. That was you know, it was
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funny. I was asked first if I
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would do a companion video
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to kind of host the behind the scenes like you know,
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you see and the extras when you get a movie on Apple
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TV or something, and I agreed to do that,
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and then out of the blue, I got an email
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from the producer, Dennis Scott, asking
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if I sang. And I
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was sitting I just had a training session. I was
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sitting at in the parking lot of the Whole Foods
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eating a gluten free pizza, and
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I say, well, you know I can't. I So I brought up
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my voice memo on my iPhone and
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googled some Mr. Rogers lyrics and acapella
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sang into the voice memo send
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it to him. About an hour later, he gave me
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three song choices. Yeah,
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and so that you know, that turned out to be
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a lot of fun, and it led to this yeah,
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exactly exactly. So Group C kicks
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off this week. Do you know anything about what's
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in store now? No, I don't, nor do I know who
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my companions in Group B were.
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They They're amazing with the security.
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I'm really isolated.
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So when you get there, do they cover
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you immediately in your car even before
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you it's in the car before you drive
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on the lot. I had the driver shows
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up, I had a mirrore advisor
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mask, a hoodie, gloves
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like it really was, and they and they follow
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you all the time. And the irony
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for me is they shoot mass singer
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where we did we do nexts with Stars?
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So I was home, but you
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couldn't be. I was like hitting
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homecoming. That's funny. So well, speaking
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of let's talk a little dancing. What do we know
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so far about this coming season? Nothing
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has no official pick up yet I
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have. I even reached
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out to one of the exacts saying, hey, I'm gonna be doing
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press this week? Should I what should I say? I
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didn't hear it, didn't hear back, So
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I don't know. I mean, my assumption is it'll
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be back in the fall, but it's not real
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till it's real. And it seems
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that for a few seasons, some of the some of
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the fan favorites or best dancers were
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leaving. Um earlier, we just weren't
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getting the post. Did the show Does the
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show try to address that? Or is it is just
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one of those things like it is what it is. No. I think they did
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try to address it. Uh. Last
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season they gave the judges that um,
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that extra little power at the end of the show
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to pick from the bottom two. UM.
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I don't know that it. The downside
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of of the new approach was that the West
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Coast I couldn't vote
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UM. So I think I would presume anyway,
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if we come back, that they're still looking at
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ways to make that a little bit more palatable
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for everybody. Right, what a run?
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Huh? Fifteen years
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you were? Season or two three? Season
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three? Very good season. Funny because we
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were talking about the producers that worked on the show.
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So Rob Wade, where the producers is now running
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Fox? Paul Telegdi, all
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right, is it running NBC? Boss
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running NBC. But it's so funny that they all came
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from that show, and it's like the Brits sort
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of just took over the Beatles the invaded
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well exactly in the show itself is
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a transplant from England from strictly
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come dancing, which still
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every year Brune was still doing that. Lens stopped
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flies like every week. Can you imagine
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he does our show on a Monday during
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the fall, and then he flies to England
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neither Tuesday or Wednesday, does their show
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on Saturday, gets back on a plane
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Sunday and does our show on Mond. Oh my gosh, you must
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be exhausted. He is, he is, but he still
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has that energy Mario. And
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then let me tell you what, he's
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just like a cartoon characters. He's
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exhausted, but he's rich. Do
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you believe Mario should have won his season? Way
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to put him on the way to put I'll
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tell you.
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I'll say season three was my favorite
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season. I'll take that. And
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what was unique about that season at
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that stage was watching an
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NFL guy suddenly
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become a dancer. And as
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we were getting closer, because it's you
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must have at some point thought I got this locked. Well
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I mean yeah, no, no,
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no, but I mean if we're going and my pure ability,
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right yeah, And and and
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my perception was that
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that Emmett was like, you know, the
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tortoise and the hair kind of thing. He was suddenly
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gaining and gaining and we were in
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the elevator at CBS
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where we shot the show, and uh, I said, Emmett,
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you just seemed to be getting more relaxed as
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we get closer to the finale, and he just
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kind of held up his super Bowl ring and said, I've
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dealt with stress. That was
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the thing. Tom. I just needed one super Bowl, right, Yeah,
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super Bowl. I think I would have been
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in there. That's great to hear about season
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three. Thank you. Um,
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this is a fun fact. This is kind of cool. Your first interview
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back in the day was with Mo Howard of the
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Three Stooges. Yeah, I love the Three
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Stooges. How did that come about? Well,
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I was and by the way, to link
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it to the mass singer, there was a clue of a hairpiece.
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If you look at that clue, that's Mo's hair, That's
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the haircut Mo had. So I was
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sixteen year years old at my
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parents home, my childhood home, and
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I cold called l A. Now this
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is harl Massachusetts, like cold called
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l A. My folks were out and I knew
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two of the three Stooges were alive, and
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this is early seventies and I
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was looking for either one Larry or Mo called
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information. I got a number for a Larry fine
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that it can't be that easy. Called
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that number. A woman answered the phone, say,
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oh, we get these calls every so often. It's
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not him, but you know where he is. He's
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at the Motion Picture home in Woodland Hills. So
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I called there. The switchboard
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answered, I'll get him.
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My heart's beating like a jackhammer. Guy comes
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back on the phone, says, Larry's playing poker
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right now. He's got a good hand. Can you
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call in half an hour? And
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you just said who you were, Yeah,
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I'm a fan, and I had my cassette
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tape recorder and all this now they would go, yeah,
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yeah, exactly. So I called back.
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Larry comes on. He's recovering
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from a stroke. You can hear a little bit of that issue,
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but very clearly himself. About ten
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minutes in he goes, swear
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to God, you want Ma's number. Really.
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He gave me Mo's home phone
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number,
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and I ended up recording interviews
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with both of them if on Howard's
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Sirius XM channel Howard Stern. We turned
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those interviews into a special called
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The Lost Stooges. So you can hear
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me at sixteen sounding like I'm forty
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interviewing Mo and Larry. That's incredible.
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I would like to check that out. Yeah, it's really
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cool. It was such a treat and and
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uh we we transferred
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the quarter inch tapes which I had
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transferred from cassettes to
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digital for the special, and
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the Mo thing held up pretty well, but the
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real to real on the Larry interview was actually
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falling apart as we made the transference.
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Really only had one pass at that but
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the Mom interview sounds like he just walked off the sound
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stage. That's incredible. Yeah, that's such a cool
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story. Thanks for sharing that. All
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right, Tom, before we let you, am gonna put you on the spot.
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Quick questions. Okay, go
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to karaoke song, don't
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do karaoke, Never do karaoke.
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No, no, although now I might I
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might bring I
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might bring a taco karaoke
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bar. See the move I like, Tom is. I
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don't like the the public karaokes
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somebody can records in the whole deal. I like
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the Korean karaoke style. I do
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karaoke. You're like James
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Cordon. Yeah, I'm good with that too. That
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or the private rooms with friends. That's
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the move. There movie. You can quote
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the most uh star Trek
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to the Wrath of Con. Oh you're a start
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your enterprise to episodes?
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Oh wow, that's another fun fat
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out enterprise. Season one.
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The episode is called Oasis. The
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very opening scene is this alien
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trader of exotic goods having
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dinner with the captain, the engineer, and the
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Vulcan science officer. That's me. Is that you
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four and a half hours of makeup? Wrath Con?
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Wow? Yeah, Ratha Con. That
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was with recorded montal one, right, yes,
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I remember that was the was a
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good one. That was a good one. Celebrity
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crush growing up, Um,
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Sally Field, that's a good
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one. Yeah, is it? Yeah? Remember
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I'm almost sixty. No, no, I didn't just don't
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get Sally would you would just from getting
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cute? He was super cut. I'm smoking
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the bandit. No, I know she was cute, She's
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cute. I wouldn't say it crush. I'd say more like Raquel
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Welsh So Phil Laurel.
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I had to think, I like more, do you like more more
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like Maryanne than Ginger? I didn't. Yeah,
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oh yeah
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I get your style. Okay, we got along
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great. I would feel like I'm punching about
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my weight. You know, you
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don't want to find it out of your Okay,
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go to cocktail. Well,
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I'm not as much of a drinker, and I'm more into
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I p a s now. My niece
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is my professor of beer, who's sitting over there.
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But if I got hard alcohol,
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it's usually a vodka's sodas
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and clubs. Dreamcasting
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for Dancing with the stars, I've
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often said this, I would like uh,
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Tom Hanks, um
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uh and and that retired pope. That's
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what's he doing? That's right? Is that a lot of time? What's
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he doing? He's got a lot of time. He's
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still around. You know, he's probably
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just hanging out at the Vatican looking
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like he's well arrested, looking like a fifth wheel?
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Right? I like
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that? Yeah? Um, who would you
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cast to play you in the Tom burg John
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story? You know who I would
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love to see plays Steve Coogan. Steve
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Coogan is a British comedian. Uh
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and is brilliant and
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he recently did a Laurel
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and Hardy film and stand
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Laurel. Yes, yes, yes, I would just
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I would just love to show up on set and hang out with Steve
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Coogan. Okay, you never know we
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might see that. Thank you so much for taking the time.
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It's nice to catch up. Really,
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the Mass Singer, he punched above his weight. I
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did, I did. I outkicked the coverage
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right there. Mass Singer airs
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tonight on Fox. Big Things to Tom,
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Thank you again. So On with
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Mario Lopez
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