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Welcome to OSD . It's an Indian summer

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, with a beautiful sunshine over the

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South CC front and Lots

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of dappled sunlight in the forest . Welcome

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everyone . How is everybody ? How are you , johnny

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? I'm very well .

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I Do the how I

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use we're encroaching

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.

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Sounds a bit sexy . I like that come

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on then yeah , oh yeah , no , no , I'm really good

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, yeah , I enjoyed today .

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You've had an exciting time lately . I mean because you you're

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on Holly Bob's not longer .

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Yes , yeah , I was on holiday with Jodie

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Last weekend , all

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for five nights .

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Yeah , it'll , look lovely .

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Yes , amazing , was it crete ? Crete

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, yeah , beautiful .

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I'm not gonna sit and listen to you talk

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about Jodie , isn't it he

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better than that . It looks lovely . Who

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do you think you are ?

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It .

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We're in that joke , but still fair play you know , Fair

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enough . Bad that one back there Asked

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me how I'm . Yeah

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, it's me , it's me , I'm the emcee of OSD . It

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is there , he is . That's

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why that he's the rhymes . If

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I didn't love the rhymes much , I wouldn't do it , cuz I love the rhyme

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that you know . That's , that's why Did

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you just yes , wow , you

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just went in dry without any loob whatsoever

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. I think , wow , the

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tensions both between me and me and laughing

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boy here , robo , not me and you Did okay

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. They said well , we know , we know

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, the direction of travel . Start in this episode . Oh

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, it's huge . Oh , you're joining , it's fine , she's running fine

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, she's running fine , she's running Perry

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, she's 11 . Ask me , how are you ? Thank

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you , johnson . Thank you Robo . Fuck

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the perio , you're getting nothing out of me . Yes

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, yes , went to a wedding that started off . We got

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there for well . I actually got there for 10 to 11

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. First get the far was 10 and bullet

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chops here was stressing in the taxi thing

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and 11 Dispatch

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with a half 10 . Yeah no , we were it right , we

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were fine , we got there , okay . But then there

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the wedding . Well , we , we had our taxi

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arriving at quarter 12 . We're both like let's

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go home now . It was a long

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, it was a great day . Yeah , mark and Jess

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scour , who got married yesterday Congratulations

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. I know Robo knows mark very well as well

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. So , and

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yeah , and thanks for inviting us . Feel special

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day . I'll see anybody who just does know them . That wasn't invited

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is clearly a massive cunt . She

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got that one on . Yes

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, it was a great day . It was a great day .

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Oh , I saw you .

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Let . You had a great after that weekend with the kids . So , doggy would

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, who's the dogs that you went walking with ? Okay

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, do you want to say who

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said friend is ?

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Is my friend Vicky , so she's got six little

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, five little chihuahuas and the kids

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have always said about going out taking the dogs out .

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It's okay .

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Hey , can we pitch some of your dogs ?

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I really want to make a joke now . Do I dare make the joke

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? Can I make a joke ? Did she listen to this

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? Okay , so you played

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with Vicky's grounder today ? Oh

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yeah , not good , not good . Yes

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, as I said , we are , we're here again . I

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should not rob , I think you should . You should take that job on from now

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on at doing the intro , after you've asked

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our people now . Yep , yeah

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, because that was good . I

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like that and he's bad time . You pulled your weight a little bit

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more .

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Exactly , yeah , I thought I should encourage

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on your territory is not

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encourage you , make it better .

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It's like when you went to Harrogans chicken . It

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enhances Tarragon

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. Never Tarragon , it's a , it's a herb .

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Tarragon .

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We said Harragon , tarragon

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, yeah yeah , just put on

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just normal chicken breast , that Tarragon to it before you cook

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it , because it's slightly better . I don't tend to

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do it . I like to taste the chicken , so I don't like

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sauce on my steak . If I have a steak , I want

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to taste steak . I don't back in peppercorn

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.

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She'll be peppercorn at your bollocks , all

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right steak bit pepper , bit

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of a bit of salt , that's about it . Yeah

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, maybe a bit butter .

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No .

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Little bit of butter . No , let's go over go .

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Well , they're very docile this evening , yeah

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it's very yeah . Actually

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I'll run it . That's a good question , Johnny . Yes , how

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do you like your steak cooked ?

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Depends , which cut the steak I have now . For fuck's

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sake , I expect that from him

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.

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What cow is it from ? Where was the

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cow read ?

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if it's fillet , I'd have it medium rare . Okay

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and if it's rib eye , I'll have it medium . Yes

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.

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There's a full point rib eye , like John said . Wait , do you know this ? The

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rib eye is obviously marbled with fat the way

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through . The Fat has to melt . I was with

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an X

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, you know the worst

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one of all time . We didn't turn him . You

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know who she is and we went out from here and she ordered

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a Rib eye and she asked for it

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medium rare and the wait went . I don't

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think that's a good idea . She went don't tell me I'd have my steak

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. He gets to me now , can't you ? And

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she went I , I have my steak . I

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want you to know the listener is . She said no , I want

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, I like my steak medium rare and I want a rib eye . And I'm

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the next of the babe listen , he knows what

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he's talking about . He went no

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, I know , he just go in , get the steak

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I want . And they're like all right . He came out and

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of course the fat hasn't melted , so still quite fatty

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and chewy . So she called the way about I

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don't want this . This is a really bad cut . I've got loads

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of fat in it . The way is that I the thing is with

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rib eye . She went I want another one , get me another one . And

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the chef ended up coming out To

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basically sort of say look , I will cook you another

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one , but I'm not going to cook it unless you ask for it , at least medium

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. I don't like medium , and you know that

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. Right , listen to me , shut the fuck up and

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listen to me , all right . So then

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she's actually went . What for what ? Medium rare ? Have

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rump ? Yeah

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, what about you ? How do you like your steak ?

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Like Johnny , the fillet is medium

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rare .

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It's got to be , you know .

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I don't like it too rare , that medium rare , because it's

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a lovely cut of meat , really tender , lovely

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. But my favorite cut is rib eye

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yeah , especially if you get that crust on it .

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Yes , Good point

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, good point . Um , what's your favorite

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cut Johnny .

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At the moment it's rib eye . It was fillet .

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I'm I

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like fillet but I don't feel it's got like a Supposedly

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it's wanky Greg Wallace in the house . Philip

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doesn't have a meaty enough taste . That's

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why I actually like . I like rump because

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I think he's got . It's not like the tenderest , but

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he's got . If you get a decent bit of rump , steak okay

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it's got a real personal flavor

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.

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Anyway , how the ?

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fuck , do we get on here ?

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You are .

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Good point . That's a nice little discussion .

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They like that .

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That's nice yeah .

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Yeah , it's real that anybody . Should we just set

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this off now and go and have a steak ? Do

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you remember a jock that used to work with in the hyperlites

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years ago when I first met you ? Guy called jock

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you know , imaginatively he was a Scottish man

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, johnny right Right Nickname came from and

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, um , yeah and uh , basically

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he would buy a raw steak from the butchers

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and then just eat it completely utterly raw

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.

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Yeah , walking on the road , wouldn't he ?

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At least gets , yeah , blue gets , at least

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seared a little bit . So there's a little

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. Yeah , it pretty

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much is inside , it's just very yeah

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, almost literally like yeah , 30 seconds or something

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. Yeah yeah so , but

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it's can be . It's not as dangerous as raw chicken , but

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it can still be dangerous . That's like steak

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as long as it's cooked with citrus

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, doesn't it ? I think states targets cooked

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to talk about , or yes , tile Capaccio

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, yeah , it's a .

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Add , like a citron lemon to it . I think that's how

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it basically looks like .

8:12

I didn't know that is that part of you all today . He's old , was that just

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? An extra bonus content Johnny

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Greenfield , adding value speaking of it

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.

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It's food as well .

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Yeah , and it's not beige

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. Yes , no , johnny , right

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, johnny here's with you all today . He's older the week , buddy .

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Um , so the first one actually got sent this

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. Um , so it's quite interesting subject

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for , I think , for a lot of people . Um

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, and it's actually on citizens advice . So

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I sent the , got sent the website . Uh

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, look at the link . Um , I think I actually

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knew this because somebody at work actually did

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it , but apart from that , I wouldn't have

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known , but it's good to know . So , basically

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, if you put holiday off and

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you end up being sick on

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holiday , yeah , you

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can claim those holiday days back

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in exchange of sick days .

8:58

I have heard this .

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Yeah , but then there is Additional

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advice on here as well which sort of says well

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, it depends on how much you get paid

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sick day versus your holiday day . Have you got enough holiday

9:08

? So it's really just , it's your own personal choice . Yeah so

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it's not Definitely you have to do it or

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not , it's just that you legally have

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the right to do that yeah . Every employee has

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to abide by it , apparently . Um , also interesting

9:19

what's quite interesting Is if

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you're on long term six

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or save , you've got , say you've got four weeks

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holiday allocation , you've

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got . I know you've had that . You've been

9:29

busy all through work but you've had two months

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off with like a leg break or something you

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can legally carry over

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. If you didn't have a chance to take

9:39

your four week holiday and that calendar year

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, you can legally take that over the

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four weeks . If you've had to sit , pay

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off , okay , into next year for 18

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months when is interesting

9:50

. I think , I think the rule is just about five

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days is like a discretion of the discussion

9:54

yeah , but I think max for tax reasons , so

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not five days . But If

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you've been on long term sick you can claim them over for another

10:01

18 months , or I'll say interesting

10:03

.

10:03

He said an employee themed one so far

10:06

.

10:06

Yeah , anyone mate or yeah , I've got two more .

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Okay , cool , oh two more , so five in

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effect . Today he's on fire .

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Yeah , Uh , there's one . I saw Um

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again . It's actually food based . Again , I don't

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know how I go about food .

10:17

I was just gonna say what . So , johnny , I just think it's only

10:19

thinking of gaming the system at work , because all of a sudden he's

10:21

coming out with these yeah

10:24

, food going Um

10:26

, but no , so this is food based , so you

10:28

know when you cut up like a pepper a red yellow or green

10:31

pepper , mm-hmm , and it's a real pain in the ass

10:33

getting that middle bit out .

10:34

Oh yeah , without all the pips go everywhere , mm-hmm . So

10:36

I saw a video earlier and it was Rather

10:40

than trying to cut around it . There's lots of different ways you can

10:42

do it . Mm-hmm , you literally just pop .

10:45

The oh straight in straight in .

10:46

Okay , open up , and it all comes out like a stalk

10:49

oh so you just push down

10:51

, push it down , yeah , but it's when it's rounded

10:53

full . Push it down and they just come

10:55

. Then you're under , then you peel it or put

10:57

a part .

10:58

Yeah , the stalk's in the middle oh

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did you know you can get male and female peppers

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? Oh , I

11:06

don't know why .

11:06

Yeah , come no , I don't know what . I've heard it though .

11:08

Oh yeah , if it's got , you know , the bumps at

11:10

the bottom , yeah , you get . If it's got three , I

11:13

believe , it's a female pepper , and if it's got four bumps

11:15

it's a male pepper . Oh , that's what I read . That

11:17

could be bollocks , you know . So , listeners

11:19

, only slightly drunk , um , no

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info . Only slightly drunkcom

11:24

. That's the email address . Please email in , uh

11:27

, if you want to um debunk

11:29

that or give us any uh extra information

11:31

.

11:31

Got it , johnny . You got one more . I didn't see any more . Today

11:33

is older , I think I haven't found that's

11:36

more than happy to be sent in .

11:37

That is a great idea . Yes , if you've got today is

11:39

old , send one in . Uh

11:42

, send it in . And Whoever

11:44

we feel is sent in the the best one

11:46

that week ? Uh , we'll get a free

11:48

OSD mug . Sounds

11:52

good , okay In . Finally , slightly drunkcom

11:54

, send in your today is old suggestions

11:56

. Johnny will filter them and decide

11:58

which ones , if any , he wants to put on , and

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then might be the story of us . It'll be Johnny will decide which one

12:03

he likes the best , because you're ? yeah

12:05

, obviously , but it's your , it's Johnny segments , so Johnny will decide

12:07

which one , uh uh , sent in , wins

12:09

the mug that week . Yeah . Nice

12:11

and um , also if anybody wants to send us some money

12:13

so we can afford some mugs .

12:15

Yeah , um , and

12:18

I think this uh plays well into

12:20

the subject , or one on the subject , or a couple of the subjects

12:23

for today's podcast . It's film

12:25

related . Um , so

12:27

Did you know the

12:29

On the hocus pocus

12:32

? I think it must be the the

12:34

intro and the friends intro

12:36

. It's the same house with

12:39

the fountain .

12:40

Hocus pocus . That's a bit middleer film , isn't it ? I'm

12:43

actually focus , focuses yeah .

12:44

That's the one that the sequel recently came out was on netflix

12:47

or amazon , like years later

12:49

the sequel Came out

12:51

. You know I was putting that face because you know we're doing bollocks

12:53

on that later .

12:54

Yeah .

12:56

Yeah , you know we're doing bollocks on that later . Yeah , the

12:58

Averymore of the question is gonna find out .

13:01

Actually do you know what that's ?

13:04

I think rubbo suggested it a while ago and we agreed

13:06

to it , but we didn't do it and that was to actually Johnny's

13:08

reminder be set out at the beginning of each episode , uh

13:11

, or what's on the agenda for the

13:13

episode . Yeah , we forgot to do it . So

13:15

let's start that now . Obviously , today is old

13:17

. In a minute . We've got a new segment that's

13:19

going to be robos baby . Uh , it's going to be called

13:21

bits of space . So what's going to happen is , each week

13:23

, robo's going to take a few minutes , uh

13:26

, to Answer a question again

13:28

. Similar thing people want to send any questions

13:30

in about space , such as why you

13:32

know why is the logan's mouth

13:34

so big ? It has a certain gravitational

13:36

pull . Um , robo will answer a different

13:39

question about space each week , um , because he's

13:41

very passionate about this and he makes it very interesting

13:43

to listen to . Once we finish with that , we're

13:45

going to be on to the next segment , which is going to be Hopefully

13:47

semi-regular . We're going to ask a man question

13:49

. You know we had the airplane one last week which

13:52

we had great feedback . Uh , our friend Lauren

13:54

, uh , that Johnny and I used to work with

13:56

, she mentioned me going . She thought was hilarious

13:58

because she said basically the answers from all three

14:00

of you were indicative of your personality

14:02

. She doesn't know you , robo , but she's obviously

14:04

listed the podcast . She said she loved the fact that

14:07

scott , within seconds I'd almost not even finished

14:09

asking the question rob went . Fuck yeah , said

14:12

johnny , basically sat there and went . If I was trained to

14:14

do it , I could do it . And then Robo

14:16

started going . Is it a jumbo jet ? What size of plane is it ? Where

14:18

am I ? Where am I landing ? What am I doing ? So

14:21

we're going to ask a question about that this week . We're going to ask could you

14:23

disarm a bomb ? That should be interesting . Then

14:25

, uh , we're going to talk a little bit about football . Uh

14:28

, sarca , has football become too

14:30

toxic ? And we'll talk about why we

14:33

think that maybe maybe the case or maybe not . Um

14:35

, and then johnny's idea for a quick

14:37

segment , which , uh , I think's a really good one , which is , uh

14:40

, going to get the opinions off the boys as to which

14:42

film did they go and

14:44

see , really looking forward to , but was the biggest

14:46

disappointment , the biggest letdown ? And which film

14:49

did they go in , uh , to see or

14:51

they saw on video ? Did video , christ , oh man

14:53

, they're even DVD now . Is it blu-ray

14:55

streaming about

14:57

?

14:57

20 years before behind .

14:59

Which one did they go in thinking this is going to be shit , but they

15:01

ended up really enjoying . And then we're going to close

15:03

with a special movie , themed version of bollocks or

15:05

not .

15:05

So that's what we've got today .

15:06

I got to remember to get the start of each episode . I think

15:08

that's my fuck up boys . Yeah

15:11

, uh , actually you can take that

15:13

on from the album I . You could do that as soon as you seem

15:15

to be encroaching , right and

15:17

yeah intro

15:20

. How is everybody ? And what's

15:22

coming up ? Yeah , there

15:24

you go . Uh , right , should we have a quick pause

15:26

for drink refill ? Johnny's

15:28

dancing around holding his winkeys . I think he needs a weebie

15:30

. Yeah , like you know , like young boy , young kids do that

15:32

. You go . Jakeb , does that because you need

15:34

a wee . No , you need a wee . No , in the six months later

15:37

I've wet myself . Um , yeah

15:40

, quick pause back in . Set Right

15:44

, tiff , that Johnny , that was a

15:46

five in the end , four

15:49

normal ones and the extra one at the start which

15:52

I've already forgotten where that was . We

15:55

had to pause it for a drink refill folks

15:57

. So my memory's not that

15:59

shit . We

16:01

got a new segment coming up which John and I are excited

16:03

about . So regular listeners or people going

16:06

right back to the early days of ISD will know that

16:08

one of Robo's biggest passions in life is cock

16:10

sorry , space . He's

16:13

interested in all things space and astronomy and the

16:15

one thing that we've had feedback on this from listeners

16:17

is even people aren't necessarily

16:19

interested in space per se . Love the

16:21

passion and the way that Robo does

16:23

have a you know . And look , we've

16:26

all heard Robo get the hump in the past because I like poking

16:28

him and annoying him . So when I pay compliment

16:30

it is sincere , because I'd rather piss you off

16:32

because it's funny . Well , until I

16:34

genuinely I'm in fear for my life . But

16:37

yeah , so genuinely . Robo does have a

16:39

really good way of explaining this in a way that

16:41

is easy to understand and make sense for people like me

16:43

and Johnny , who know very little about it .

16:45

Well , I think that was proven last time . On

16:47

the air bollocks or not ? Yeah , on the home away .

16:49

Well , yeah , but you still only just lost

16:51

, though . Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , is

16:54

that because Robo took a lot of Bloody

16:57

trotters .

16:57

so that was all .

16:58

You took quite a few swings and hit , didn't you ? Yeah , yeah

17:00

, swinging them in , swinging , hit . So

17:03

, yes , robo is very passionate about it . He does know a lot about

17:05

it and you know what he doesn't know he

17:07

can very quickly find out about , because he knows where to get information

17:09

and he explains it in an interesting way

17:11

that makes sense . So we're calling this segment it's

17:14

of space . I

17:16

like that you can do that every week , in

17:19

which Robo himself is going to choose a question

17:21

about space or something he thinks people might want

17:23

to know . How does that happen ? Why does that happen ? What causes that

17:25

? And he's going to explain it to us . So , robo

17:27

, take it away .

17:29

Well , one of the things that I find

17:31

quite fascinating about the whole of

17:33

space and all the stuff that's way out

17:35

there is the scale of it all , and

17:38

so it's kind of I

17:41

find it almost impossible to comprehend how

17:43

big some of this stuff is , you

17:45

know , and it's one of those things where you

17:47

kind of try and relate it to something , and

17:50

when somebody says , oh yeah , the speed of

17:52

light is traveling for a year , sorry

17:56

, a light year is traveling at

17:58

speed of light for a year , and

18:00

that's how far you've gone , and it's like , okay

18:02

, that's obviously a very long way , but have

18:04

no means of quantifying that

18:06

and understanding it . It's like

18:08

when somebody said to me

18:11

that the speed of light

18:13

goes around the earth seven times

18:15

in one second , that you

18:17

go , oh , okay , I'll get it now .

18:19

That's pretty quick .

18:21

But I find it really difficult to comprehend how

18:24

far that distance is

18:26

for a year , because they're just

18:28

astronomical amounts

18:31

of distance , anyway , one of the

18:33

things I saw a while

18:35

ago was , that is , to

18:38

comprehending the size of

18:40

the planets and how far away we

18:42

are from certain things . So when

18:45

the earth and the moon are

18:47

obviously locked in their orbits

18:50

, when the moon is

18:52

closest to the earth

18:55

, there's not enough room to

18:57

fit all of the planets in between

18:59

the earth and the moon . But when the moon

19:01

shifts to its apogee , that its furthest

19:04

point away , you

19:06

can actually squeeze all of the planets

19:08

of our solar system , and I think

19:10

it's Pluto and Eris which

19:12

is the two exoplanets .

19:16

What three reasons are they ?

19:19

Why they call it the war for exoplanets .

19:21

They don't satisfy the rules

19:23

to be a planet .

19:24

What's that ?

19:26

I know one of them .

19:28

Do you not remember what happened last time ? My

19:30

toys went south without the pram ? I think they nearly reached Eris

19:33

. I was not having it , I was going . You said three . You

19:36

don't know this , do you ? Because I was too ashamed to tell

19:38

you . So I wrote two and two . And this is funny , as

19:40

you remember , when Robbo said to me I

19:43

said ask me a question about space , ask

19:45

me a question off the cuff . Robbo said what's

19:47

the reason that Pluto doesn't

19:49

satisfy ? There's

19:52

a reason that Pluto doesn't satisfy to become

19:55

known as a planet , which means it's a dwarf planet . Then

19:57

Robbo went there's three reasons . There's one that

19:59

Pluto doesn't satisfy . I heard that

20:01

, as there are three reasons , when

20:05

I couldn't name even one of them Bollockchops

20:07

, tropsy had a few drinks here I tried to

20:09

say Facebook and I said what are the other two reasons ? Robbo said they're

20:12

very calmly he's afraid to say

20:14

there aren't another two reasons . There's

20:17

one reason that it doesn't satisfy . I think

20:19

the other two did satisfy something . It

20:21

was literally a week later . I picked him up to

20:24

come and do another podcast . We were driving here

20:26

Again . Because I'm a dickhead , I started

20:28

going . Do you remember last week ? Robbo said

20:30

fair play to him very calmly sat there , nodding , obviously

20:32

thinking I can't be bothered to get into it again . I

20:34

said hang on a minute . Did you mean ? There

20:37

were three reasons and as

20:39

long as it satisfies one of those reasons , it doesn't

20:41

count . And Pluto satisfies one of those reasons

20:43

, robbo went . Yes , oh , I misunderstood

20:45

, that's why I was getting goby .

20:48

You thought it was us who pulled three , but it

20:50

wasn't .

20:50

Yeah , exactly , good work , logan .

20:54

I think I've got two of them that I can remember . One of them is it's

20:56

got sufficient mass for

20:59

it to make itself into a sphere

21:01

. The more things that clump

21:03

together over a period of time

21:05

, they will create a sphere . Pluto

21:08

does that . It's a

21:11

spherical object . The other one that

21:13

I know is that in its orbit

21:15

around the sun it has

21:18

to have sort of cleared out all of the debris

21:20

and gas and whatever

21:22

that's there so effectively

21:24

. If you look at its orbit around the

21:28

sun with all of the crap that's there , there

21:30

would be an empty space in its

21:32

orbit because it's cleared it all out , can't ?

21:34

remember what the third one is .

21:36

Yeah , something else , but

21:38

yeah , so when these ? Oh

21:41

, excuse me .

21:42

Excuse me , the wine's going down well .

21:44

It is going down very well . So when

21:46

you've got the Earth and the Moon and they're

21:49

sort of a set distance apart . But there's

21:51

a point where the Moon will get closer to the

21:53

Earth I can't remember

21:55

the perigree , so that's the bit where it's closest

21:58

and then apogee , where it's furthest away . When

22:00

it's furthest away , you can get all

22:03

of the main planets . So you

22:05

get , oh God , no God , I don't remember what

22:07

they are , I've had a few drinks now . So Venus

22:10

, mercury , mars , jupiter

22:13

, saturn , neptune , uranus

22:16

, and

22:19

you can get the Pluto and Eris

22:21

to fit in the distance between the Moon

22:24

and the Earth .

22:25

You missed one . Did I , I think you did

22:27

.

22:27

My done , I did .

22:28

No , because .

22:29

Earth is there , on the Moon there , yeah , so

22:31

we're going to Neptune , did you say ? Neptune . Yeah

22:33

, I did say Neptune , you did , I did say Neptune .

22:35

Done it again .

22:36

Done it again . We're a wanker .

22:37

I was actually counting as well .

22:39

He was . I

22:41

could see him on his fingers , but I also saw him get confused

22:43

. When he got past four I lost count .

22:45

So yeah , I always find that quite interesting because it's like you

22:47

know that these things are massive and you know

22:50

, we know roughly , that the Earth and the

22:52

Moon are sort of 275,000 miles

22:54

apart roughly . So

22:56

in that distance you can get every single

22:58

planet in our solar system .

23:01

And I find that pretty impressive . I think it is . Yeah

23:03

, they say economies of scale . You

23:05

get those videos on Tintweb , can't you ? On YouTube , where they kind of do the zoom out

23:07

thing to kind of give you an idea . They do it as well

23:09

with things like how deep the deepest

23:11

parts of the ocean are . Yes , because

23:14

your idea is they do similar ones to space .

23:15

They go to certain parts of the ocean . It will show you like the Eiffel

23:18

Tower . Yeah , yeah , yeah .

23:21

And that's really useful because that is , that

23:23

is a referenceable thing , that

23:26

you can go . Oh well , I've seen the Eiffel Tower and I know that

23:28

it's this big and somebody says a hundred meters

23:30

and you go oh , I know what a hundred meters is , but

23:32

it's on these scales , with this

23:34

sort of stuff , it's just absolutely

23:38

unimaginably huge .

23:40

Isn't there the famous Blue Jewel photograph

23:43

? I think it might have been taken by one of the voyagers that

23:45

was sent back , and it's . I think it was when it was

23:47

past the Saturn or something like that , and he sent the photograph

23:49

back and you can see a . You can see a tiny

23:51

, small blue planet , which is Earth , and I think

23:53

it's called the Blue Jewel photograph . Am I wrong ? I think you

23:55

might be right .

23:56

Was that on this ? Yeah , that was from New Horizons .

23:58

I don't know . It could have been buddy , I don't know .

24:00

They've got . There's a picture , and it's a really weird picture

24:03

and I think as it passed

24:05

Saturn , it looked back . So

24:07

Saturn is lit from behind and

24:09

it's this really strange ethereal

24:11

object and

24:13

you can see the rings around Saturn

24:15

. And then there was this tiny , tiny little

24:18

dot , and that

24:20

tiny little dot is us and

24:22

it's it's literally a slightly

24:24

brighter spec .

24:25

Yeah .

24:26

In one of the rings . Then you know , you can see there's a couple

24:28

of stars and this and that , but there's this tiny little

24:31

spec and that is us and it's like

24:33

holy shit Awesome .

24:36

Don't think we'll be doing that again . That was a bit of shit . Yeah

24:38

, that was great mate . Thank you , Rob . Did you know

24:41

Johnny was invested Because you asked him questions ? It's always

24:43

a good sign , Even though he's

24:45

still . He's folks . For those of you who can't see

24:47

, Johnny is now taking his socks off to use his toes

24:49

to count on as well . He's currently

24:51

sitting with his legs in the air .

24:53

Hang on a sec .

24:55

It's Friday night already . Yeah , oh

24:58

, no .

24:58

No , no , no .

25:02

I'll tell you what . When you first started speaking , did you see me sort of

25:04

sit there and put my head in my hands and shake my head slightly ? Did

25:07

you notice ? When you first started talking , I think ?

25:09

I thought you , I thought you did .

25:10

All right . No , no , I did it because I suddenly realized

25:12

there's a volume button that I can turn up individually

25:15

for each of your mics on here . Oh

25:19

, I just you know they were fine anyway , but it does look

25:21

a bit better now . Oh lovely . That's

25:24

been there the whole time .

25:25

This is why you shouldn't trust me All those

25:27

weeks of frustration that he's been like nearly throwing the laptop

25:29

out the window and it's

25:31

actually been on the soft side , hey hey , come on , I'm the

25:34

MSD of OSD , right ?

25:35

I know what I'm doing . That's why it's two different things tonight

25:37

where I've gone . How long we've been doing this Today

25:40

is old . Okay

25:42

, cheers boys . I love that , rob . I genuinely

25:44

. That was really interesting , mate . As I said , you know

25:46

, not just plain as makeup . You're asked because I'm the first person

25:48

to take the piss at you , because it's funny to watch you get worked up

25:50

. That

25:53

. Yeah , I love the energy and the passion you bring to that

25:55

and I don't want to

25:57

sound patronized if it does . I don't mean to be . It's

25:59

the way you explain it in a way that

26:01

, like you know , you get those

26:03

things and you can read it like it explains me , like I'm five

26:05

year old . Yes , people go . I don't know the sound Somebody

26:08

actually put today about the Israeli conflict , which we're not going to say anything more

26:10

about . It sounds like it explains me like a five year old

26:12

Israeli conflict , and someone's reply was no

26:15

, I can't .

26:16

It's not that simple , it's not possible .

26:18

Speaking of , read it very quickly before we move on . I saw

26:20

this over there , a photograph

26:22

. It's so funny . There's a Portsmouth group

26:24

in Reddit , right Portsmouth sub , and somebody's

26:27

put on there to the cup and in lime grove

26:29

who were shouting their head off at each other all the time . Could

26:31

you shut the fuck up ? I can't have a barbecue

26:33

or dinner outside without hearing Portsmouth finest

26:35

argue about what , when and why . Shut up

26:37

. Somebody replied well , what are they arguing

26:40

about , mate ? Don't come here with half a story . Somebody

26:43

else put oh , that's me , sorry . And then my favorite reply

26:45

was one at the bottom what's the only put ? Yeah , because

26:47

they'll definitely be reading this . That

26:51

was good . Let's move on football , football

26:53

, football . I love football . Johnny loves

26:55

football . Well , johnny loves a lower standard of football

26:57

. Obviously , robbo doesn't

26:59

hate football , and we've had many

27:01

fun times watching England games in the pub , haven't we ? So

27:03

you will watch it . Yeah , man

27:06

United , that kind of thing .

27:08

He said about big games .

27:10

Don't watch the shit ones like Pompey .

27:12

I watch Pompey because that's effectively that's my

27:14

local team .

27:14

Yeah , exactly , I can agree with my goal . I

27:16

can agree with my goal . Yeah , yeah , I can hear

27:19

them from my goal , and we've

27:21

won a lot of them , haven't ?

27:22

we , I am . Yeah , I haven't heard much from my goal

27:24

, were they at Top of the League ?

27:25

Top of the League . We're actually leading

27:28

in the whole country of unbeaten

27:30

unbeaten in 23

27:33

games now .

27:34

The longest-known beaten run in

27:36

the country .

27:37

What was this ? New manager ? New set up

27:39

Playing well , okay , yeah he's a guy , he's

27:41

a small contact .

27:43

Yeah , he came in last year . What's 30 saying

27:45

?

27:45

He's 36 . He was actually playing

27:48

for Oxford United last season

27:50

and he's chairman of the PFA , and

27:52

then , yeah , he signed with his manager

27:54

.

27:54

Was it your mate ? So who knows him ?

27:57

Yeah , a friend of a friend basically said that

27:59

I think when he first

28:02

got signed as the manager , no one heard of

28:04

him and there was

28:06

a couple of statements on Twitter at the time

28:08

saying oh , pompey , have gone for the cheap option

28:10

here . And then

28:13

actually the chairman came out and

28:15

said we haven't gone for the cheap option . We really he's

28:17

got a lot of good pedigree .

28:19

And there were other people that could have got cheaper with more

28:21

experience .

28:22

I think Neil Warner was even in the fray and then the few

28:24

others .

28:26

Didn't he manage Pompey ages ago ?

28:28

No , but yeah anyway

28:30

. So then mate got a message saying

28:32

oh look , he knows his stuff . Hopefully

28:35

the fans won't give him too much grief and

28:37

look at now , if he wins , he'll be fine .

28:40

Look at us now at Top of the League , haven't ?

28:41

lost what League one .

28:43

The old division three .

28:44

Yes , that's two down from the Premier League . Yeah , oh , that's

28:46

not bad .

28:47

Mars will be a hundred down from the Premier League . Mars

28:49

will be a hundred down from the Premier League . Oh , that's a word

28:51

to say For nearly every team that's not taking us up . I've

28:55

lived in Pompey my whole adult life , so of course I

28:57

have a little affinity for them , but you know

29:00

I have to take the best because

29:02

I'm a cunt . So , yes , I've

29:05

been on football . How tired it is . Oh yeah , I've just demonstrated

29:07

it , haven't I ? Oh , fucking hell , I'm

29:09

about to get on my soapbox about it and I've just got to go

29:12

. Oh , nice one . Do you know what , Robbo ? You're on fire tonight

29:14

, but you're also going to get on my fucking nerves a little bit

29:16

, because you just called me hell Very

29:19

cleverly and it's quite cute because you two are quite

29:21

clearly . You know you're a little bouncing off each other tonight

29:23

.

29:28

No , please don't .

29:30

For the benefit that listens at home . Robbo actually just put

29:32

his wet finger in Johnny's ear . Well

29:34

, he didn't eat what they didn't even kind of pretend

29:36

to , he just went and did it . So we're gonna talk about

29:38

football next . Again the magic of podcast , though I can

29:40

see Johnny needs a top up and he may even

29:42

need St Long and thin

29:44

in his mouth . So

29:51

, yeah , we're gonna , we're gonna pause it . We

29:53

will be back really shortly , but as far as your concern

29:55

, it'll be straight away . So yeah

29:57

, so basically what we're gonna talk about now as we briefly

29:59

discussed then , and of course I do like

30:02

to impomp you do well , I've lived here for

30:04

years . I would say it's because I like to wind Johnny

30:06

up , but he doesn't get . We end up about it you know , Is

30:08

that a famously ? when I tried to , when we

30:10

know , he caught me about a guitar but it's taken

30:13

another man United in the next week . I was so smug

30:15

so I'd add him about the Russian oligarch

30:17

with all arm of dealer and said , what about you ? And he's went

30:19

. I don't care and Unlike

30:22

you , logan , I didn't get on my soapbox about it . So

30:25

, yeah , what I talk about is that you know I'm interested in

30:27

a D E Boys . Just give me your thoughts

30:29

and we'll start with with Johnny

30:31

. I Should

30:34

give me the finger . I

30:37

love football . I mean , I love football , very passionate about it

30:39

. I've done two years . I was

30:41

very lucky and that I chose a team to support

30:43

just as they started to become fucking

30:45

awesome . That you know they're they . They . You

30:48

know you see it there as a fan . You think

30:50

you should . This is shit . This is shit , like you know . But

30:52

yeah , there is , we're doing shit . Now that's

30:55

some saying , but you know . You

30:57

know you football yeah , but you

30:59

can be quiet now if you want , for

31:01

about the next hour .

31:03

Another thing I'd get you with this

31:05

is lovely in it , though she's really nice .

31:07

He's all just a full of happy energy tonight

31:09

. Love you Go . Little sparkling , you're right , it's

31:11

good . Yeah

31:14

, boobs , we're not doing so

31:18

, yeah . So what's gonna say was you know , but United

31:20

, you get frustrated as United fans . I wouldn't

31:22

know , you and you think yourself we're doing really shit , like

31:24

we're ninth in the Premier League having spent over a

31:26

billion pounds . You know are . My

31:28

version of shit is like the spoil kid and

31:30

again I have to pull myself back and think , christ , you know

31:33

, I think how many teams had loved

31:35

to be in position . We are shit . Anyway , what

31:37

is is I ? I Before me more and more

31:39

. I love with football , not so

31:42

much from the United perspective , so I love watching

31:44

United , so all the stuff that comes around it

31:46

. It's the toxicity , the tribalism . To

31:49

me and this is what I want to get your guys opinion

31:51

on it feels like football

31:53

is becoming more and more toxic . It feels

31:56

like the , the violence is creeping

31:58

back in . That we kind of grew up within , the 80s

32:00

evenism . It

32:03

feels like you can't

32:05

have a sensible discussion with many people anymore

32:08

. You know we have a chat group

32:10

. As you know , there's some of the lads in the

32:12

group you can have a really intelligent discussion about

32:14

football . There's other people just to forget about

32:16

it , you might as well , just you know , try and talk to your toilet paper

32:18

. There's another guys they weren't mentioned who

32:20

I've known for many years . I've recently blocked

32:23

him on Facebook and got rid of him because I just got fed

32:25

up with how just how violent he was about football yeah

32:30

, and it was safe ruining my enjoyment , but it's also

32:32

like I just I don't want that in my life . So the

32:34

point is is football

32:36

becoming more toxic

32:38

? It is there more

32:41

and more Anger and toxicity

32:43

creeping in football , johnny

32:46

, what ? What do you think ? I ?

32:49

Guess , from a personal stance , I see us

32:51

port ports man when we're

32:53

in . I don't know whether that toxicity

32:55

is more . I think , from where you're

32:57

coming from , Andy , it's more premier

33:00

league base , because I think there's a Lot

33:03

of dick swinging with your clubs and

33:05

who's gonna , who's got most money , who can afford the best

33:07

players , and , and it more

33:09

gets down to that . It's like , well , if you spent this amount of money

33:11

and your second , you should be

33:13

top or this . This team

33:15

has spent billion or however much , and

33:18

their fifth , or like United from years

33:20

ago , they were always known as the best team throughout

33:23

the 90s and early 2000s

33:25

, and Now

33:27

people are sort of and then Chelsea again

33:29

, they were a next one . Now man City are . Liverpool

33:31

have always been big anyway , and they

33:34

won the Premier League once , I think , and and it's

33:37

I think with that . I

33:39

think that's where the toxicity is , whereas

33:43

when we , when you talk about

33:45

the lower leagues , ports are

33:47

for League one , I Think

33:50

it's .

33:52

Oh no , sorry mate . Oh , which is good

33:54

, to be fair , not even

33:56

necessarily lower league . You quite often go to watch non leagues

33:58

. I think you're really good mate . Tom said oh , he's

34:01

a captain of Ferrum , yeah

34:03

, but you know you will go and watch gospel and stuff like

34:05

that . So to be fair , yeah , I was worse

34:07

than society trucks to say Johnny knows what he's

34:09

talking about . Even you know talking

34:11

about that kind of more grass roots , because you really go and

34:13

watch it .

34:14

So sorry to interrupt . That's all good . No

34:16

, I think . And then when

34:18

I think Portsmouth , I

34:20

think through financial fair play , when

34:22

they went to bankruptcy and stuff like that

34:24

or close to it , they got deducted

34:27

points and got pushed down to the league Like

34:29

such a ridiculous thing to do

34:31

.

34:31

It's man struggling with money .

34:33

Okay , we're gonna find it's bad management , isn't it

34:35

? But the yeah

34:38

, and then went down to lead to , which

34:40

is the bottom league , and we're in there a few years and got promoted

34:42

Really one . We've been there seven

34:44

. I think it's the eight year in league one . I

34:46

think that level , it

34:49

doesn't seem , the

34:51

Oxysities there

34:53

is you're talking .

34:55

I think what you might be talking about

34:57

is you . You're looking at real

34:59

football fans who support their local

35:01

teams . This is my uneducated

35:04

outside of you , so they're like real

35:06

Grassroots football fans

35:08

that they go . That's , that's where I live

35:10

, that's my town , that's my team . I'm

35:14

gonna , I'm gonna watch this because and I'm

35:16

gonna support this team because those , those are my people

35:18

.

35:19

You shut your whole mouth .

35:22

Honestly when , when Robo was telling me that I was

35:24

looking at me .

35:25

More and more purple .

35:28

Steam were coming from his ears and I'm

35:30

just laughing .

35:31

I gave myself whiplash . My head said around . So

35:33

much then , like , take

35:35

my football team's name , addy , your fucking

35:37

mouth . I think the actually

35:39

thinking . But yes , I think you're thinking of Rob , yeah

35:42

, and I think the passion for the

35:44

your home club is is there

35:46

.

35:46

So I think don't I . I

35:49

don't think I don't get worked up on people

35:51

from another team getting , I

35:54

rate , about all saying about Pompey not doing very well

35:56

. Okay , well , we're enjoying it . It's good football

35:58

, it's fun , fans are great and

36:01

, yeah , go and watch lot non-league . What

36:04

I like about non-league actually is you

36:06

can go to the ground and drink throughout

36:08

the whole game , because I got bar open throughout

36:10

.

36:11

Oh , but in the premier ones you can't from

36:13

Lee to .

36:13

I don't know what it's like , a conference , national

36:16

, good confidence premier , but

36:18

the yeah lead to

36:20

lead one Championship Premier League

36:23

. You're only allowed to drink for the game

36:25

. Then when the game's on , you can't take

36:27

a drink to your seat . And then you

36:29

get , I think 10 minutes before

36:31

half time , about five minutes after

36:33

no , then that half after half time they shut

36:35

the bars . So if you want to

36:37

go out for a day with the boys , whatever , it

36:40

sort of stops the drinking side unless you taking

36:42

a drink with you , which no one ever does . But then

36:44

yeah , I think , yeah

36:47

, I don't see it from On

36:49

the on this side of it , the only toxicity

36:52

I see is again From

36:54

the Premier League teams and bigger clubs , and

36:57

it is again . I think there's there's

36:59

sort of hoping that they don't

37:01

succeed , nothing . That's where it is . Well , I think with

37:03

the lower teams , I think there's a lot of ah . I'm

37:06

like I want to back them . I hope they do well .

37:08

Yeah , that's the difference . I think we have an underdog

37:10

, don't we exactly for the love of the game .

37:12

To be fair , about probably a year ago

37:14

. Friend of the show . Scott , yeah , obviously

37:16

one of our boys . He's

37:19

a Samson fan . He went to watch Samson

37:21

v Newcastle in at Southampton

37:23

. Was a cup game , lee , cup game , yeah

37:25

, and this was yeah , I'm gonna say me

37:28

and Johnny went to meet because some of Johnny's mates

37:30

who live up in Leeds One

37:32

of them's a newcastle fan , yeah . Yeah

37:35

, he'd come down to watch the game . So Johnny said look , I want

37:37

to go to Samson and meet him . He's a mate and he's in Leeds

37:39

a little so we can meet Scott after the game . I was like , yeah , we'll

37:41

do that . That was the night when I think I must have repeated

37:44

I'm so pissed every three

37:46

minutes on it , every three minutes

37:48

, I'm so pissed . Anyway

37:50

, the point is gonna make was we went sat in one bar

37:52

and we actually were watching the game on the screen . We

37:54

were into Hampton and there's a couple of lads next

37:56

to us and we just got chatting to him . Yeah , I got

37:58

quite openly said , like you know big Portsmouth and

38:01

they had some Hampton fans and we had a really good chat . Yeah

38:03

, do , we had a good chat like this is a usual bit of it , wasn't shitty

38:05

banter , they were all Pompies , hampton , but

38:08

um , so yeah , that's an example of how

38:10

that was . Again , there's

38:12

that Samson were Premier League then , weren't they ?

38:14

Yes , yes primarily .

38:16

Yeah , it doesn't totally support the , but

38:18

maybe does support like not not as much money

38:21

spent .

38:21

So there's not so much . They're not classes . The big

38:23

six , yeah , so yeah , and

38:25

you do get rivalries with Portsmouth and Sampton

38:28

May not live at all . You

38:30

get lots of different light hooligan

38:32

firms . They'll you then known to have rivalries

38:34

that way , but I think that's more of a . If

38:36

you choose to be in it , then you're in it . It's

38:38

not like you get caught up in it . I think a lot of that . There

38:41

will be situations where you might be in the wrong place at wrong

38:43

time , but a lot of it

38:45

and it's it's an unwritten rule from like

38:47

the hooligans and stuff . They'll only fight

38:49

other hooligans . They won't target but

38:53

the general public , they're just gonna watch the game normally

38:55

.

38:55

Madison craze wins . Yeah

38:57

, love them , I love them . Mom

38:59

, safe to walk the streets were

39:01

never about that . Yeah , I mean from the did

39:03

some of the stuff that I've read . You

39:06

know , I agree with Johnny on that , you know , and that's why often

39:08

hooligan firms in the 80s Didn't

39:10

often fight in or around the ground .

39:12

Did they ?

39:12

they would get around your me away . So

39:15

they could , partly because you know if the further away

39:17

you are , the lesser Please can be there , but also , like Johnny says

39:19

, you know , they went interesting kicking heads in of normal

39:21

supporters , most of them anyway- you

39:24

get the odd occasion where people get caught up in it .

39:25

Oh , there's , there are some dickheads that do do that anyway

39:28

. Yeah , and but yeah , most

39:30

of the time you don't . Unless you're looking for

39:32

it , you don't really get it . You get a bit of

39:34

banter and you know , I mean you

39:36

can walk . So you go to Frank Park and it's against

39:38

. I don't know , wigan , for instance , you

39:41

will walk from the train station . There's Wigan fans in

39:43

front , pop fans . You have a chat . It's not

39:45

, it's not like that . And

39:48

you get a bit ban on the In when you're

39:51

in the Terrorism . But

39:53

yeah , no , I think it's , um , I

39:55

think from in that level , more

39:57

of the local scene , like you said . Hmm , I

40:00

think it's more the love of the game and the passion

40:02

is my town , yeah and I think

40:04

, yeah , the way , and you said that toxicity

40:06

, from what I've seen , it is normally the

40:09

big teams Trying

40:11

to put the other teams down to

40:13

save Andy sports may not and see their sports .

40:15

Liverpool may not lose .

40:16

They've provided buzzing , giving

40:18

him shit about it and then Chelsea

40:21

fans , vice versa .

40:22

It's all those celebrating somebody else's misfortune

40:24

.

40:25

Yeah , because because it's seen that they

40:27

spent that money . They got all this . This brought these cash

40:29

to their name . They can buy them once .

40:31

They shouldn't be losing , I guess there's a

40:33

side of it which is like people want to see the

40:35

Giants fall . Yeah , they want to see

40:37

, I know , waterlooville

40:39

juniors beat Liverpool or whatever

40:41

it was .

40:42

Didn't they play ? How more Louisville played Liverpool in the

40:44

FA Cup ? That's right .

40:45

Yeah , and that was , and they went well , we'll come to your ground

40:47

.

40:47

Actually , no , we won't why don't you come to us ? Well

40:50

, no , it was actually they . They

40:53

drew them away and

40:55

then , yeah , I think they

40:57

would have had to play at Ham or Lou was right . Yeah , but

40:59

the money generated would have , it's better for them

41:02

to go and play Liverpool .

41:02

Yeah , exactly generation of money . Do you want to come and

41:04

play our stadium ?

41:05

Oh , okay , but that's just how the draw was

41:07

. It actually drew that they were away

41:10

.

41:10

Oh , sorry , yeah , I thought I thought I was all around .

41:12

I can't remember who , but that did happen with a different team or about

41:15

. You are right , it wasn't having . Yes , it

41:17

has happened where . Yeah , hang on a minute

41:19

, if you come to us , we can fit 3,000 people

41:21

. If we go to yours , yeah , because in the

41:23

FA Cup and if you play in a normal football like Premier

41:26

League game , liverpool , man , united , the home team , all the gate

41:28

receipts and everything is the

41:30

home team keep it , and the FA Cup I think it's 50

41:32

50 . So you know , having

41:34

a little bit of said yeah , they would have got 50%

41:36

of the gate receipts at Liverpool , winner

41:39

4050,000

41:41

cities dating not quite the 78,000 man United's

41:44

Robo

41:53

as . Yeah , thanks , johnny . So basically

41:55

, if I , if you just sum up , johnny but correct

41:57

me if I'm wrong which after now , you

42:00

, you're not saying it's not more toxic

42:02

, but you don't notice as much because of the

42:04

level of football that you watch , there tends

42:06

to be a different type of fan , who's there

42:08

more for the love of the game than and

42:11

another city , and then , therefore

42:13

, that more toxic

42:15

rivalry and yeah

42:18

, then yeah , I'm trying to beat the

42:20

other team down , yeah that is

42:22

that that's fair ? Yeah , okay , cool .

42:24

That's fair . I'll do like when something lose

42:26

. Yeah , of course . Yeah , I don't know you

42:31

can do that and not be toxic about it . That's the thing is that yeah

42:33

.

42:33

I'm a rubber . Well , I'm interested in your perspective because you know

42:35

. I know you're not a football fan , but I say

42:37

we've watched many English games together and had some

42:39

good times . Yes

42:42

, I know , yes , because you

42:44

wound me up , say

42:47

as someone who just is not drawn to football . Anyway , I

42:49

suspect that some of the reasons why not may actually

42:51

play into some of this toxic stuff .

42:53

Yeah , there's . There's parts of football

42:55

which I think I'm

42:58

quite envious of , because I used to work with

43:00

a chat and

43:02

he had this really solid group of mates . They

43:05

followed their football team and they literally followed

43:07

them all over the country and they weren't like a Premiership

43:10

team , it was a

43:12

local . Well , okay

43:14

, it's a big team , but it's a local team for them and

43:16

they literally followed them religiously

43:18

and they would fight anyone

43:20

that said anything bad against their team and

43:23

it's . It's that kind of sort of thick

43:25

as thieves , you know , do or

43:27

die , ride or die or whatever the thing is . I

43:30

kind of thought I think I missed out on that

43:32

somewhere , you know . I think that that might be

43:34

quite a nice thing to have . Yeah

43:36

, you know . So it doesn't matter where you are , you

43:38

can be , I don't know , out of Mongolia

43:40

and you bump into a I know ackrington

43:43

Stanley fan and You've

43:45

immediately got that camaraderie . Yeah

43:48

yeah , and

43:50

there's something to talk about and there's that , that whole

43:52

Whatever

43:54

the word I don't want to talk about , you've

43:57

got that . You've got that . That join

43:59

that connection . Okay , and so

44:01

that side of football , even

44:03

though it's sort of really tribal and

44:06

really Can

44:08

be quite violent , yeah , it's , it's

44:10

actually it . I've

44:13

looked at it with with other people before , so

44:15

I share , I think that I wish I

44:17

kind of had something like that , but

44:20

I've just never been drawn to football

44:22

at all . But , um , you

44:24

class ? Oh yeah , absolutely no . I

44:26

, you know , I just I don't have any interest

44:29

in sort of knowing all about the transfer

44:31

windows and this and that . And you

44:33

know , you guys talk about football

44:35

as if you're managing your own team . So

44:38

it's like you know

44:40

all the all the names of people past and present

44:42

. You know the score line from

44:44

a game between x , y

44:46

and z in 1997

44:49

and you'll recall how do you remember that goal

44:51

, that such and such did , and you remember this , and

44:53

it's just this massive plethora

44:56

of Join , jointly

44:59

owned information that you guys love

45:01

. You know , yeah .

45:01

I think we've grown up with it . When you just naturally Get

45:04

that it's like you were forming a one . You'll know a

45:06

lot more than I'm , a very casual

45:08

sports observer , but

45:10

you're sports for money .

45:12

It would be most for yeah , but again I look

45:14

, I know people that are the Steeped

45:17

in motorsport and they they were

45:19

all . Detailed

45:22

. I love . I love the engineering for most . Yeah , I

45:24

love all of the , the technology and all that kind

45:26

of stuff that goes on . Nowadays

45:28

it's kind of I'm seeing it kind

45:30

of what I call deteriorate

45:32

into like a sort of football teams kind

45:35

of thing . Well , there you go , you can get the certain teams

45:37

. Yeah , it's like I , like this guy

45:39

. So I I'm gonna say your

45:41

shit , your shit , your shit and your shit .

45:43

I don't think you get the the

45:46

toxicity with that and such , and I think that's

45:48

because , as well they're just a single driver , whereas

45:51

if it's a team , oh , it is , it's , it's

45:53

happening , it is happening .

45:55

I've noticed it a lot when people talk online

45:57

about all right , they'll go there's kind

45:59

of this Obviously

46:01

, max Verstappen is the

46:03

one essay .

46:04

Yeah , yeah , he's a three-time world champion

46:06

.

46:06

He's supremely talented . Yeah , terrible

46:09

sportsman .

46:10

Oh yeah .

46:11

But then people that like him , or a lot

46:14

of people that have started to like him , and they might

46:16

I've seen this , have , I've seen this said a lot

46:18

people say I think Whoever

46:21

is talking on this particular forum

46:23

is probably a Netflix

46:25

I can't remember the name of the drive to survive

46:28

and they try to make it all into a drama

46:30

. So they , they oh , he hates

46:33

him . He did this , is that ?

46:34

that sells more tickets . Yes

46:38

, the new fans get more fans , but it's

46:40

kind of this is lovely .

46:41

It's detracting from the actual sport

46:43

itself watching you two talk to each other like

46:45

this interaction , it's

46:48

really good . No , it's really good .

46:49

I'm giving up another wet William and it no

46:52

but , I , think we're going back to football

46:54

. Yeah , I , I think there's there's

46:57

that tribal side of it which I kind of I'm

46:59

slightly envious of , but I'm also I don't

47:01

like it , because it is so tribal

47:03

and it can deteriorate into violence really

47:06

quickly . And I saw a video

47:08

literally about an hour before

47:10

it came out and I think it was a Lester game

47:12

. Oh yeah , and there's a kid

47:14

.

47:15

I sent it here .

47:16

Yeah , and there's two guys standing there . They're

47:21

pointing and screaming at this kid .

47:23

Yeah , they just did it and

47:25

it's like they're just the

47:27

. You get that in a every walk of life . They need this dickhead

47:30

.

47:30

Well , the kid is about eight .

47:33

What's interesting about that yes .

47:35

Yeah , it's awesome video . No

47:38

, that's it , that's that . Yeah , that is I mean

47:40

, if there is anymore , I haven't seen it right . So

47:42

, yes , that's that's all we can't see . But the interesting thing

47:44

about that was , um , that the kid doesn't

47:46

stop giving it the large amount , even with it , which I loved

47:49

.

47:49

I loved .

47:50

But I was what . I showed it to Annaly earlier on

47:52

. I think she made a really good point . She went oh yeah , no , there is music

47:54

. But you do realize that that kid Will probably grow up to

47:56

be exactly like those two .

47:58

He's already displaying that kind

48:00

of one of the things , yeah it's

48:02

almost like it's engendered .

48:04

Yeah , within it . Right , two seconds , people

48:06

, we'll be back . Well

48:08

, I'll say two seconds . The magic of podcast , it's gonna

48:10

be less than that , okay

48:12

, yeah , um , to robo anything else

48:15

you want to throw in there , buddy , before we wrap this

48:17

. Well , I'm not done yet

48:19

.

48:19

So yeah , we got um . The other thing that

48:21

I don't like and it's something that

48:23

I like and to a sport I know equally

48:26

that's about as football , you

48:28

know , is rugby . Um is

48:30

, I was what's .

48:32

The famous phrase is Uh , football

48:34

is a gentleman's game played by thugs and

48:36

the rugbees are thugs game played by general

48:38

.

48:39

And what I'm , what I noticed , is the difference

48:41

, the main difference with that . Rugbees

48:43

are very violent physical sport , but

48:47

when the ref says stop , 99.9

48:52

percent of the time there is respect

48:54

for the ref . I think you can only speak to the captain

48:56

, can't he captain ? And the

48:59

? Uh , the player that's

49:01

done the offense or whatever . So the captain

49:03

is always there with the ref .

49:05

Yeah , talking through whatever the yeah

49:08

, they call captain over , yeah , along with the player , and

49:10

they say captain and the player is in trouble . Is that right ?

49:12

The captain's , the one that talks .

49:13

Yeah , show me the , but he brings the play with him . I

49:15

got that right . I don't know , I think .

49:17

I think they're bringing that into football . Well

49:20

, they need to . They are , because I don't .

49:21

I hate that interesting when there's an issue

49:23

on the field and immediately the team that's

49:25

being Penalized rush

49:28

the ref there shouting and screaming and pointing

49:30

and bustling . I hate that . That

49:32

needs to stop . They need to stop that because

49:34

that's what those young kids who love

49:37

those players , like in bapae and all that lot they

49:39

see , that dissension on

49:41

the thing , they go . Well , fucking . I'm doing that because Messi

49:44

did it , or Cristiano Ronaldo did it or whatever

49:46

with that .

49:47

I mean it's interesting to say that , Do you

49:49

think ? Because obviously football I mean

49:51

rugby is a very quick game , but

49:53

I think there are certain rules of

49:55

rugby . I don't know the rules that much , but I

49:58

don't know the rules . I don't know

50:00

any rules , no , but I know some of the rules , not

50:02

just rugby anything in life .

50:03

What are the rules ?

50:03

I don't know . We know that , sorry , johnny

50:05

. Um , I

50:08

think normally when a

50:11

referee Makes a decision in rugby

50:13

pretty much 99% right , because

50:16

it's it's easier to spot Something

50:19

wrong , whereas football was so is so

50:21

quick as well . And Again

50:24

, I'm only going to be a thing . But if you

50:26

look at , say , even five years ago , it's

50:28

so quick but the natural I can't always see

50:30

it . And that's probably why the players

50:33

get so frustrated , knowing that they haven't done something wrong , but

50:35

they also they also brush the

50:37

ref even when they know they're excited

50:39

to make sure that the next time they get the decision

50:41

. That's why I don't like this .

50:43

I remember talking to this chap at work and he's going

50:45

, and I think we were talking about something

50:48

that happened at the weekend . He got the wrong

50:50

end , or his team got the wrong end , of a decision

50:53

from the ref and then

50:55

the following weekend it's almost identical

50:58

situation where his team got the benefit yeah

51:00

, and it's like , well , we got away with

51:02

it , didn't we ? Or it was okay

51:05

because nobody

51:07

, you know , nobody , um , nobody

51:10

found out . Kind of thing . So to

51:12

me it was . It

51:14

kind of makes it as kind of an institutionalized

51:17

cheating . As long as you can get away with it , it's okay

51:19

.

51:20

I think that happens . Almost any sport though . Yeah , you know , honestly

51:22

, look at the cricket . You know you get times in

51:25

cricket . I think even happened in the last Ashley series

51:27

, didn't it a player ? They'll

51:30

know that they was lbw . Whatever

51:32

, they won't move until they officially get

51:34

called out . So maybe cheating

51:36

is too strong a word .

51:37

Yeah , that's more more likely taking

51:39

advantage of somebody missing

51:41

something .

51:42

Which is what again what they're doing ? Football , again they're

51:44

. I think maybe I'm a sensitive point , buddy , but

51:46

I think it happens in a lot of sport that go back

51:48

to formula one for snap , and you mentioned earlier Verstappen

51:51

. I don't know a lot about formula one . What I do know

51:53

is where I've seen Verstappen quite often as you

51:55

know , doing like a bit of a

51:57

shimaka . One of the greatest drivers all time was notorious

52:00

with Damon Hill . Senna was always

52:02

known as somebody who was quite happy to drive

52:04

very aggressive yeah . Yeah

52:09

, so , so , yeah , so I

52:11

think I agree . I just don't think it's just a football

52:13

thing . I agree with you that in football you've

52:15

got there's quite a few people

52:18

at once and united were famous for that under Fergie

52:20

you know they were famous for , for

52:22

crowding the ref and intimidating the ref . You

52:25

know that's the famous when , yeah

52:27

, when Alan Shearer was , you

52:29

know , england captain , he was the golden boy . There

52:31

was the famous incident where basically he

52:34

was sent off , come what it was for , but sent off or something

52:36

. The FA looked at it and the FA

52:38

have the power , whenever anybody sent off , to increase

52:40

the length of the band depending on how severe

52:42

the sentence or what sent off or was . And

52:45

you know , and shea , her sense , admitted he did this

52:47

, but he said he wasn't proud of it . Shea basically said

52:49

if you extend the band for any

52:51

longer , I won't play for England

52:53

in the next few matches because I feel it's an

52:55

injustice . So you know

52:57

.

52:58

It's a difficult one . It's what I see

53:01

because I'm a very much an outsider

53:03

looking in . So I'll pick up a Football

53:05

game . If you guys are watching it , you

53:08

know I'll come down the pub and we'll watch

53:10

the same game and I'll sit there . I think I don't know what the

53:12

fuck's going on . Um and it's so

53:15

. I am very much an outsider . I don't know any

53:17

of the rules , don't know . Well , I know I think I might

53:19

be able to waffle through the offside

53:21

rule , but I'm not sure . So

53:23

it's . It's not something that I

53:26

follow , so it's not something I can speak

53:28

of any authority about . It's just my

53:30

perception Of some

53:32

of the things that goes on in high-end football

53:34

. I don't like the fact

53:36

that Kids five

53:38

, four , five , six , seven , eight , nine , ten , whatever

53:40

who are watching that . I'll then replicate

53:43

that on their Sunday .

53:45

Football field . What's interesting about ? Like the

53:47

younger generation I know watch the football and stuff

53:49

on tv , but thinking

53:52

grassroots , like children , football there's

53:55

a lot more rules and a lot more

53:57

there's like a .

53:58

Isn't it all , fa ?

54:00

It's still fa , but I think there's like a

54:02

, there's like a rope now that parents

54:04

can't step over and then they do . There's

54:06

certain they control it a lot more at that

54:08

age because that don't think there's now , but

54:10

then say Premier League and that's , there's a lot

54:13

of money to stay and , of course , a lot . That's why

54:15

frustrated .

54:17

This is the thing money fucks everything up , because

54:21

what you were saying earlier is like the lower , the

54:23

lower leagues yeah , we've got more respectful

54:25

, more passionate football . Yeah , perhaps

54:28

is what you're getting out , I think .

54:31

Um , it's the word you , you live for .

54:33

There's no money there because they they're all

54:35

trying to get to the premiership , to get to the money . There

54:37

you go . So it's like as soon as

54:40

you introduce a shit ton of money into something

54:42

, it fucks everything up . Doesn't

54:44

matter if it's politics , sport or anything

54:46

. Yeah , soon as money's involved .

54:49

Loving this . This is uh . This chat's gone a bit longer than don't

54:52

be anticipated , so we'll talk for a few minutes

54:54

on it and then watch your chaps . If you agree

54:56

, the , could you land a plate ? No , not , we did

54:58

before fuck yeah could you disarm a

55:00

bomb ? And uh , movie

55:02

pleasures or movie Disappointments

55:05

will do on the next show . Yeah sorry

55:07

listeners , but I'm sure you'd agree listening to this . This has got

55:09

more legs in it . A couple of things , the rugby thing

55:11

, just what was really interesting . I

55:14

could be wrong , but to me part of the rugby thing

55:16

is it's , it's , it's part

55:18

tradition of rugby . It's always been the case , at

55:20

least as far as I'm aware , that only the

55:22

captain can speak to the ref . So

55:24

so because of that , it's just

55:27

accepted as part of you , like the tradition of it .

55:29

Which is why I'd be fascinated here if you

55:31

know I don't know whether it is brought

55:34

in with football , but if you always see when

55:36

things happen in football . Now he calls

55:38

over the captain . Yes

55:41

, yeah that's what it is like . Say there's a big so

55:43

they're adopting it in football , well , I just think

55:45

it's the captain needs to say can't play us

55:47

down , they don't want to start sent throwing loads of red cards around

55:49

and I think , what if your captain's Vinny Jones

55:52

? Yeah

55:54

, who knows , that's

55:56

why I didn't bring it in . Then it probably dropped

55:59

it , or something . Um no

56:01

, I think the um . Where is it going

56:03

with this ?

56:04

Sorry , I apologize . I interrupted . You were talking

56:06

about um how they are . You're

56:08

starting to see more of the captain's being called over

56:10

.

56:11

Isn't it in rugby , where if

56:13

you do show disrespect

56:15

to referee gets inbind or something ? Yes , that

56:17

is part of it .

56:18

But yeah , but might . Yeah , you're all right .

56:20

Absolutely . That might be a threat they don't want to lose , because you're

56:22

fighting some fucks sake , I've lost you five . I

56:24

agree .

56:24

But also , yeah , you are right 100% . But , mike , kind

56:26

of my point that was sort of making along with that was

56:29

it's that it's accepted in rugby

56:31

tradition that only the captain can speak . There

56:33

is a punishment . You're right , and maybe that

56:35

you know there were talks for the

56:37

World Cup You've done , if you . You probably don't , johnny

56:39

, because you know you're a child and you know

56:41

like football , so you probably don't remember World Cup 94

56:44

, 98 . Yeah , 94s . France was 98

56:46

. Yeah , usa 94 yeah

56:48

they were , which England didn't qualify for a course

56:50

under Graham Taylor . Do I not like that Linesman

56:53

? You can tell that man from me . He just cost me my

56:55

job . Why is he ? Brian Clough ? Um , there

56:57

were talks about how , uh , they were going to make that

56:59

more palatable for the US audience , and one of the things they

57:02

talked about was having four quarters instead of two halves

57:04

right . The other thing I was talking about was introducing

57:06

an orange card right which would be

57:08

um One below

57:10

the yellow , but that would be for a 10 minute

57:13

sin been . So if you did disagree with the ref

57:15

or you you did Show this in , or

57:17

whatever .

57:17

Orange card sin been for 10 minutes right

57:20

, I think that actually do that in non-league .

57:22

Oh really .

57:23

Yeah , I'm sure . Let me double check it

57:25

. I'm sure I've seen or heard

57:27

that they do . You do get like a Sin

57:30

, been it like non-league level that's

57:32

interesting .

57:32

No idea I'd love to . I actually would love to see that

57:35

.

57:35

I'd love to see that . Sure , that is one

57:38

of one of the things one of the images I

57:40

like the most about Rugby

57:42

, is it ? There's a Welsh ref he's

57:44

very famous , called Nigel , something I

57:46

don't know . He's um , because I think in rugby

57:48

aren't all them the refs miked up

57:50

. You can hear everything they say , that's

57:53

in NFL . Oh , okay , I thought

57:55

it was rugby as well , but anyway , it might

57:57

be for the audience done about on the pitch . I've

57:59

no idea , but you , I remember hearing

58:02

his voice very clearly . I think

58:04

one of his quips , because he's quite a witty guy

58:06

he says something like hello

58:08

, I'm the , I'm the referee you might

58:10

have . You might have recognized me in

58:12

this outfit , you know , but I'm the referee

58:14

, so I tell you what goes on . It's

58:17

like he's sort of dressing this guy down as

58:19

if , like , we haven't met yet . But I'm the referee

58:21

.

58:21

Can I say that is the best Boris Johnson

58:24

I've ever heard . Thank you , brilliant .

58:26

I would yeah .

58:28

Well , the the original line that comes from is from a

58:30

bottom TV series . When he just an

58:32

impression , he goes that's the best reg van ever . Most

58:35

people probably wouldn't know who's reg vani . Um

58:38

, one final thing that I was . Oh sorry , robbo

58:40

. I'm so sorry , mate , apologies .

58:41

I like from , uh , from rugby . Is this , this

58:43

guy , nigel , whatever his name , is famous

58:46

referee . And I think it's like this

58:48

humongous Samoan dude

58:50

with a massive afro and

58:52

he's done something which obviously the ref

58:55

is telling him off for and this . I

58:57

don't know how tall this Nigel guy is , but he looks

58:59

as if he's about four foot nothing and this

59:01

guy's about eight foot two and he looks

59:04

like a five-year-old being told off by

59:06

this guy . And it's this humongous

59:09

dude and I just love that . I

59:11

thought that picture was it . To me it kind

59:13

of summarizes rugby in a picture

59:15

. You know , it's like respect for the ref

59:17

.

59:18

Yeah , I think they do very quickly

59:20

before then . Then we wrap this up and get to this

59:22

week's bollocks , or not ? Johnny , we had

59:24

a really interesting conversation of the week which I , you know

59:26

, I want to Ask you to talk about

59:28

um , come back to the lower level

59:30

of football and what people enjoy

59:33

about it and take from it Um , and we would

59:35

, you know , I think I well , I've said it to you before and I've

59:37

said it to lots of pompy fans I know , when pompy

59:39

had that under Harry redknapp to a pickup

59:41

finals , one one .

59:43

Made it to Europe .

59:45

Then nobody cares , mate . Nobody cares ? Um , I yeah

59:49

, because I've done in the detail .

59:51

Now go on , mate championship

59:54

into Premier League and then , uh , yeah

59:56

, to pick up finals . One one of them

59:58

got to .

59:59

Europe 2008 period

1:00:01

, and that's yeah , uh , it's right . Yeah

1:00:03

, Uh , I can't really if

1:00:05

I can't you , but yeah , we got promoted in 2002

1:00:09

.

1:00:09

I think right , but yeah , um , go

1:00:11

on , andy . What was the question ? Sorry

1:00:14

, mate , I'll spell it later Um .

1:00:17

I forgot what the question was . Oh yeah , that was it . Many times that's conversation with

1:00:19

pompy fans and you know , after that Amazing period of

1:00:21

glory , run our Dino game . I see my

1:00:23

land game and you know , but some of the players you

1:00:25

have playing that was you talk about like pros and ecchi DRR , some

1:00:27

genuinely world-class players . And

1:00:31

then everything happened afterwards , with the club

1:00:33

being very close to going under the fall back down the visions . Every

1:00:35

time I'm asking a pompy fan Are you and I talked about before

1:00:37

, would you swap that ? Would

1:00:40

you swap those ? Was it five or six year period

1:00:42

of glory ? Maybe a bit longer , seven years , um

1:00:44

, actually longer because you got . You got to bear in mind , you

1:00:46

know , that first season when you got promoted to the Premiership

1:00:48

, that season in the championship or first vision , it might have

1:00:51

been then , yeah , you were amazing that season . Yeah

1:00:53

, must have been amazing to watch .

1:00:54

So you know , I always say would you swap that , knowing how low you

1:00:56

kind ?

1:00:57

of fell and how close got bankrupt . See , and you said it

1:00:59

before , and

1:01:02

every pompy fan of ours said absolutely , not even knowing what came after

1:01:04

, I'll still go . Absolutely not even knowing what came

1:01:06

after , I'll still take that period

1:01:08

of glory , because you never know when

1:01:10

you're gonna get it again . So waffling

1:01:13

um , I have jammy

1:01:16

forgot the question .

1:01:17

That was it .

1:01:17

We spoke every night about pompy in the

1:01:19

Lee one , the old third division top

1:01:22

, doing really well , as we said earlier , um

1:01:24

, looking for championship next year and you had a really interesting

1:01:26

take on where you would like to see pompy actually

1:01:29

Usually the level you'd like

1:01:31

to see and be at yeah , I think .

1:01:34

I think , yeah , loved it when I was in the Premier League and

1:01:36

yeah , again , I wouldn't change any of it for the success

1:01:38

we had and it was

1:01:40

just something so out the ordinary and

1:01:42

saw some amazing players , amazing games . Um

1:01:45

, I think

1:01:47

it depends . Again , it all comes down

1:01:50

to like what the infrastructure , money wise , would

1:01:52

support . But I think

1:01:54

if we , it'd be great to play in the championship

1:01:57

. But I do like that

1:01:59

, that level , um , because

1:02:02

you still got a chance . I think in

1:02:04

the championship league one , league two , anyone

1:02:07

can win it right , whereas the Premier

1:02:09

League , again , unless

1:02:12

you've got the money behind the

1:02:14

billions , all the players , it's very difficult to

1:02:16

actually be successful . So you literally just fighting for survival

1:02:18

all the time and I guess obviously the clubs are

1:02:20

happy with the money generated , but from

1:02:22

a fans perspective there's always a chance

1:02:24

that you'll be every team in that league In

1:02:27

which I mean it's a bit different now you do get . I think

1:02:29

wolf beat man city , didn't they last weekends , but

1:02:31

that's a rarity .

1:02:32

Yeah , you always get those kind of one off Results

1:02:35

for with you . Lester yeah when

1:02:37

the Premier League , then last season they got relegated

1:02:39

.

1:02:39

Yeah , you know so is that , I think I . I

1:02:41

think championship was good level for sports with it

1:02:43

. So it's

1:02:46

, I don't know . There's , you've always got a chance and

1:02:48

it's attacking again . I don't . You don't even have var

1:02:50

as well , so it's still quite

1:02:53

that I did not know . Yeah , there's

1:02:55

any fear on the problem .

1:02:56

Yeah , speaking to again Scott , who's a slampton

1:02:58

fan despite being born in ports before that went out . Folks

1:03:00

, you know Scott's been saying this . He's

1:03:02

in that Samsung struggled a bit at times this season . A

1:03:04

couple of good results lately he's enjoying

1:03:06

it more because they're not going into every game , kind

1:03:08

of thinking . You know well , let's see how many

1:03:10

we lose by . There's an enjoyment and excitement

1:03:12

to the football . So then guys , just to

1:03:14

wrap this one up , johnny

1:03:17

. So the question

1:03:19

is football more toxic ?

1:03:22

I think it is for the bigger clubs

1:03:24

, as in and

1:03:27

yeah , they sort of you'll

1:03:29

, yeah

1:03:32

, I think it's for the bigger clubs that is toxic

1:03:35

Again . They want to see each other's teams lose

1:03:37

Again . In

1:03:39

the group that we're in , if

1:03:42

a lot of the guys support a lot of the big clubs

1:03:44

and it's every week someone's

1:03:46

losing , everyone jumps on it , Whereas

1:03:49

I think we don't

1:03:51

get as much of it in the lower leagues

1:03:54

. So yeah , I think it is that at

1:03:56

that level Again , I think it's just purely

1:03:59

because they actually really really want them

1:04:01

to lose as well . Yeah , it's not a

1:04:03

case of no , you've lost and it's funny .

1:04:05

It's vociferous . It's really really aggressive

1:04:08

.

1:04:08

Yeah , some people yeah

1:04:10

again .

1:04:10

I think yeah , so it's interesting

1:04:12

being in some of this particular group

1:04:14

. you're talking about it because I've got no

1:04:17

interest in football . So on Saturday , whenever

1:04:20

it's a football day , oh

1:04:22

, this whole thing is like bing , bing , bing , bing , bing

1:04:24

every 30 seconds or not even every

1:04:26

30 seconds , every three seconds , yeah , and

1:04:28

it's some of it is interesting

1:04:31

to look at because I have no idea about football

1:04:33

. I have very little interest . But the

1:04:36

stuff that goes between you guys

1:04:38

this is what I was talking about in the beginning where you go oh , do you

1:04:40

remember that ? Yeah , when he scored that goal in

1:04:42

1984 , and this , that and the

1:04:44

other , and you go through all this detailed stuff

1:04:46

and it's all intellectual

1:04:48

conversation . But there are people

1:04:51

that just go yeah , but you're shit

1:04:53

on you , and you you're part of Qatar or whatever

1:04:56

you know . They talk about the money thing

1:04:58

all the down .

1:04:59

I think you leave Qatar out of this . They've

1:05:01

done nothing . They've done nothing wrong . I

1:05:03

just say sorry to interrupt . I have to say this

1:05:05

right , robert is very

1:05:07

passionate and we love that Right . And he's very expressive

1:05:09

not like that very expressive with his

1:05:11

hands right . And the more passionate and , let's be honest , the more drunk

1:05:13

he gets , the more the hands

1:05:16

flail . His glass of red wine

1:05:18

is right by his wallet and right by and right

1:05:20

by the Mac laptop the Johnny owns that we used

1:05:22

to record on Johnny several

1:05:24

Johnny's nervous . Now is taking his leg . Johnny's

1:05:26

been getting more and more nervous because Johnny sits

1:05:28

next to Robbo . I'm gonna record Johnny's been getting

1:05:31

more and more nervous about how close Robbo's hands have

1:05:33

been getting to knocking over his glass of red wine

1:05:35

and every so often yeah , yeah

1:05:37

, well , everything , and

1:05:39

every so often Johnny's been going like just watching

1:05:41

Robbo's been going okay , okay . And then just second

1:05:44

ago , johnny actually lent down , picked up the glass

1:05:46

and moved it out of the way because

1:05:48

it was getting too close . Robbo sort of nodded

1:05:50

and acknowledged it and carried on talking and then seconds

1:05:52

later , robbo reached out for where the glass was a minute

1:05:55

ago

1:05:57

and probably would have knocked it if he had it done . Yeah

1:05:59

, you know , we don't care about the

1:06:01

wallet . Okay

1:06:04

, yeah , Great chat , boys

1:06:06

Robbo . Any final thoughts from you to buddy ?

1:06:09

I think I think we covered it all . Like

1:06:11

I say , I'm not a football expert

1:06:13

or any knowledge whatsoever

1:06:15

. I've got nothing . I'm just a outsider

1:06:18

looking in and it's just my observations

1:06:21

of the games and

1:06:23

how that kind of filters

1:06:26

down the behavior

1:06:28

on the pitch for the big games with the

1:06:30

. You know the big superstars of football

1:06:32

, how their behavior filters

1:06:34

down to the young kids that are coming through

1:06:37

and you know their dads who

1:06:39

are living vicariously through their activities

1:06:42

on the pitch . You know it's from my

1:06:44

, from what I've been told by some of the dads

1:06:46

that go to these

1:06:48

. You know football pitches on a Sunday and

1:06:51

the abuse that gets

1:06:53

thrown around at a bunch of

1:06:55

five-year-olds that are playing on a pitch

1:06:58

and the ref , who's like probably some volunteer

1:07:01

16-year-old or something , I don't know and

1:07:04

he's got these 40-year-old

1:07:06

guys going you can't .

1:07:09

Okay , sorry to cut your roll out , but we've been here

1:07:11

for a while . I can tell you we just do a second

1:07:14

. No , you were just settling in then to go off for one . I can

1:07:16

tell I just that's a great

1:07:18

subject for next week . We're going to continue this one

1:07:20

way . Should football or slash celebrity

1:07:22

be role models ? We're going to talk about that next time , all

1:07:24

right , so I think that's going to

1:07:26

be brilliant . We're going to crack on with Box , and I'll

1:07:28

just very quickly before we do that , because I did make

1:07:30

a promise to a local portion of artists

1:07:32

that we all know . Mary Red she's

1:07:34

got fantastic singing voice . She

1:07:38

is available for a professional singer . She

1:07:40

is a songwriter . Anna Singer , age

1:07:42

32 . She is based here in Portsmouth . She's

1:07:45

got a really unique and really versatile voice

1:07:47

. She's an amazing singer , I

1:07:50

think . Well , I'm going to

1:07:52

read this from the website , right , I'm not going to try and pretend , I just

1:07:54

made it up . She has a really good

1:07:56

range and it oozes with a jazzy , soulful sound

1:07:58

with a little hint of gravel . I think that's very

1:08:00

she basically treats

1:08:03

music as a melodic diary . Her own songs that

1:08:05

she writes herself have got topics of love , world

1:08:07

affairs , past relationships , very

1:08:09

vulnerable performer . There's a real haunting quality

1:08:11

about her . Her website is

1:08:13

wwwmaryredredcouk

1:08:17

. She's available for hire for gigs and stuff we're

1:08:20

not being paid to do this but

1:08:22

Mary is a really talented artist

1:08:24

and we made a promise that we'd give her a shout out

1:08:26

. So anybody thinking about a vocalist pubs

1:08:28

that need anybody maryredcouk

1:08:31

, give her a shout . Right , very clearly , boys

1:08:33

, we'll finish off the show with

1:08:35

bollocks , or not ? Shout out to

1:08:37

that top you prick .

1:08:39

Right , we're at the usual format 12 questions .

1:08:41

Okay , true or false , you can both guess the same one Johnny

1:08:44

Lee's the series 3-2 , and today

1:08:46

they are movie themed off the back of Johnny's idea

1:08:48

about films that we're carrying on for next week . Okay

1:08:51

, robert , you're losing . Yes

1:08:53

, so we'll start with you .

1:08:54

Okay , val Kilmer was who's

1:08:56

keeping count ? By the

1:08:59

way , who's keeping count at the schools here ? I will , yeah , I will . I'm

1:09:01

going to have to do my job properly , aren't ?

1:09:03

I . So we'll go R and

1:09:05

J . There you go , and I'll put a little one after each

1:09:07

one . All right , good shout . They've both

1:09:09

just got their phones out . People Probably

1:09:11

to just check Phone's away , please , before

1:09:14

we start , unless that's

1:09:16

work related , in which case you have to . Right , we'll

1:09:18

get through as quickly as we can , right

1:09:20

? Robert Val Kilmer

1:09:22

was offered the role of

1:09:24

Johnny in the movie Dirty Dancing

1:09:27

before Patrick Swayze .

1:09:28

Val Kilmer ? I don't think

1:09:30

, so I'm going to say that's probably

1:09:32

a load of old bollocks .

1:09:35

And Johnson . That's true , it

1:09:38

is true . No , he was the first choice

1:09:40

. Yeah , val Kilmer . Yeah

1:09:42

, join dancer Patrick Swayze Originally

1:09:44

the people that made the film , for Patrick Swayze

1:09:46

was actually a little bit too old to play Johnny , and because

1:09:48

of how young I was in Jennifer Gray yeah

1:09:50

. Jennifer Gray was . It

1:09:53

could come across a bit creepy .

1:09:55

He worked with her on Red Dawn

1:09:57

.

1:09:57

He did years before .

1:09:58

Yeah , well , not years . She hated him with a passion .

1:10:01

Yeah , and they danced . It was even worse and she

1:10:03

fucked her career , jennifer Gray , because she went

1:10:05

and had a nose job . She

1:10:07

quite a distinctive shape nose and after she had a nose

1:10:09

job she lost that quirky look

1:10:12

that made her stand out

1:10:14

. She just became yet another actress , anyway

1:10:17

, sorry . So question two , johnny , you're

1:10:19

guessing first True or false Bollocks or not

1:10:21

? Sorry , I should say . Ian McKellen is the only

1:10:23

actor from the Lord of the Rings movies

1:10:26

to receive an Oscar nomination for

1:10:28

doing those films .

1:10:31

False .

1:10:33

Bobo , I'm going to say it's false , but

1:10:35

I'm going to tell you who did get

1:10:37

an Oscar nomination .

1:10:39

It's true According to information I have , so I hope it

1:10:41

doesn't contradict what you're going to say .

1:10:42

Oh , I thought the only one that got a Oscar nomination

1:10:44

was Annie Serkis .

1:10:47

Do you know ? That's a really good shout . I

1:10:49

think he might even have won an Oscar .

1:10:50

He's the only one , because

1:10:53

of his motion capture .

1:10:55

Yes , I think you're right , let's say human

1:10:57

actor . Let me ask a question again . Ian McKellen is to

1:11:00

be fair . This is one time when Robo is

1:11:02

questioning the question when actually I think

1:11:04

, robo , I didn't think anybody

1:11:06

else got an Oscar apart from Wardrobe

1:11:08

or something like that . Oh no , the last one . Materia

1:11:10

of the King . Yeah , serkis

1:11:12

won , but yeah , but we could be splitting hairs .

1:11:14

So it was just to get nominated . Void

1:11:18

that question .

1:11:18

Void that question . Okay Johnson

1:11:21

, the first time Superman

1:11:23

appeared on film , in the cinema

1:11:25

, was in 1977

1:11:28

.

1:11:34

Oh , quite Johnson's thinking .

1:11:35

I'm going to say false

1:11:39

, false Bobbo .

1:11:42

I thought he'd been . He had to have

1:11:44

his own movie or

1:11:46

just appear on the screen .

1:11:48

All the information that is in the question .

1:11:50

I think he's been on the screen

1:11:52

before then , so we're talking cinema

1:11:54

films False .

1:11:56

It is false . The first film with Superman

1:11:59

in it was actually made in 1948

1:12:01

.

1:12:01

Yeah , I was quite old . I was going to say 50s , I thought he

1:12:03

was on the 50s .

1:12:05

I was expecting good things out of the question . I thought you'd both get it wrong

1:12:07

. Robo , eddie Murphy's real

1:12:09

name is Eddie Foley Shit

1:12:16

, sorry , sorry .

1:12:17

Because

1:12:19

he was Axel Foley and Beverly

1:12:22

Hills .

1:12:23

He was indeed .

1:12:29

No , it's not .

1:12:30

Okay , johnson , true or false ?

1:12:32

Eddie Murphy's real name is Eddie Foley .

1:12:34

It is true . Yeah , believe it or not , his real

1:12:36

name is Eddie Foley . Again , a lot of it . I know we're

1:12:38

up against time . Interesting little bit of trivia about Beverly

1:12:41

Hills Cop . Originally , when that was written , it

1:12:43

was a very violent action film written

1:12:45

for Sylvester Stallone , and Sylvester

1:12:48

Stallone didn't have the time to make it because of

1:12:50

other commitments . So they actually rewrote it

1:12:52

as a action comedy and

1:12:54

cast Eddie Murphy . No way , yeah , yeah

1:12:57

, okay , johnson , you're first Bruce Lee , renowned

1:13:00

karate man . Bruce

1:13:03

Lee was actually a champion ballroom

1:13:05

dancer .

1:13:08

True .

1:13:09

Okay , Robbie .

1:13:11

I'm going to say false Because

1:13:13

I have to .

1:13:14

It is true .

1:13:16

No .

1:13:17

Yep , it's true , he . In 1958

1:13:20

, he was crowned the crown colony Chacha

1:13:23

dancing champion of Hong Kong . No way

1:13:25

.

1:13:25

Yeah , yeah , well he did move , well he

1:13:28

did .

1:13:28

Yeah , that man knew how to use his body . And then

1:13:30

some in the original script for Robbie , sorry

1:13:33

. In original script for Back to the Future , the

1:13:35

method of time travel was a fridge .

1:13:41

Oh , I'm pretty

1:13:43

sure it wasn't the law in the start with that . Do

1:13:45

you know what it sounds ? Crazy enough

1:13:47

just to be true . It's true .

1:13:48

True , Johnny , Sorry

1:13:51

. Close to the mic , Johnny Sorry .

1:13:52

I think it's true as well .

1:13:53

It is true the script

1:13:55

was bouncing around for quite a few years before it got made

1:13:57

fascinating documentary on Netflix the movies that made us

1:14:00

about it and it was as originally written . It was

1:14:02

a fridge , but executives

1:14:04

or whoever were worried that children then

1:14:06

might climb into fridges thinking

1:14:08

that they could travel through time .

1:14:09

That's surprisingly well thought out , I know

1:14:11

right For Hollywood .

1:14:14

Johnny the Wolf of Wall Street

1:14:16

holds the record for the most times

1:14:18

the word fuck is said in the single

1:14:20

film the Wolf

1:14:22

of Wall Street . True , I'm

1:14:25

saying .

1:14:25

True , I'm saying true , it's got to be

1:14:28

one of those Scorsese gangster

1:14:30

things , because Joe Pesci says

1:14:32

fuck every other .

1:14:33

Joe Pesci is not in it . No , no but is

1:14:35

it a Scorsese film ?

1:14:37

What .

1:14:37

All for Wall .

1:14:38

Street . No , no , no . This is I'm saying that it can't

1:14:40

be the one with the most fuck . I'm so sorry

1:14:42

mate In one of the Scorsese it

1:14:44

says every one .

1:14:46

Yep , I've done it again . That's all me misunderstood

1:14:48

, my fault , mate .

1:14:49

Sorry , false

1:14:51

.

1:14:52

It's true . All right , bonus point time

1:14:55

. Boys , you can get a bonus point here If you can

1:14:57

tell me how many times the

1:14:59

word fuck is said in that film . I'm going

1:15:01

to let Johnny's ahead , so Johnny can guess first

1:15:03

. I'll give you a clue it's

1:15:06

in three figures .

1:15:08

Wow , yeah , I'd say 175 .

1:15:13

200 .

1:15:14

We should have 176 or something . To be a boy

1:15:17

, robby is closest , it's

1:15:19

actually 569

1:15:21

. Yeah , you still

1:15:24

got the point . So right , right

1:15:26

, johnny , right

1:15:28

, yeah , okay

1:15:33

, I'm down about you two . I'm pretty pissed by that

1:15:35

the skyscraper in the

1:15:37

film Die Hard Not interested as a Christian believer

1:15:39

. Not . That debate is settled . It's not . The

1:15:42

skyscraper in Die Hard is called the

1:15:44

Nakasi Plaza .

1:15:46

No , it's the .

1:15:46

Nakatomi Plaza . No

1:15:49

, I think it's false as well then

1:15:51

you are an idiot , robbo .

1:15:52

Do you know that I love you

1:15:54

to death , mate ? But honestly , it

1:15:56

is a Nakatomi Plaza . Yeah , I was

1:15:58

going to say , because

1:16:02

Johnny probably wouldn't . I don't think would have had

1:16:04

to think about that . Yeah

1:16:06

, okay , robbo , no

1:16:09

Johnny . In the thriller Speed , no one . With that

1:16:11

counter-issue , annie , played

1:16:13

by Sandra Bullock , was only on the bus

1:16:15

because her car was stolen by the

1:16:17

same terrorist who planted the bomb .

1:16:21

False .

1:16:23

Okay , robbo , I'm

1:16:25

going to say it's false

1:16:28

as well .

1:16:28

Okay , I'm going to give a bone . You're both right . I'm

1:16:31

going to give a bonus point for whoever can tell me

1:16:33

why she was on the bus and

1:16:35

it wasn't because she wanted to meet Keanu Reeves

1:16:37

and she wasn't the actual original bus driver . Yeah

1:16:41

, that's .

1:16:45

Absolutely nothing .

1:16:47

Take , a take , a swing , the mist .

1:16:49

I think she was banned for dream driving .

1:16:52

Oh , do you know what I think we might be

1:16:54

right ?

1:16:55

You're so close , it's for speeding Irony

1:16:57

, irony Robbo

1:17:00

. The classic Japanese film the Seven

1:17:02

Samurai , which famously is the inspiration

1:17:04

for the Magnificent Seven , is still

1:17:07

the highest grossing foreign language film

1:17:09

in US history .

1:17:12

I'm going to say false

1:17:14

. I think I know why .

1:17:17

You're going false right .

1:17:18

Yeah , yeah , I'm saying false as well .

1:17:20

Okay why do you think it's false ?

1:17:21

Because it wasn't amily , a foreign language film . It

1:17:24

was massive .

1:17:25

I think there's a newer one out , the Korean one

1:17:27

.

1:17:28

Oh yeah , parasite , parasite . It

1:17:30

is false , you're both

1:17:32

wrong . I

1:17:35

want to kind of say by this point but you'll never , you'll never , you'll

1:17:38

never know . When I first read this I thought

1:17:40

that's a cheat . But it actually makes sense . It is

1:17:42

the Passion of the Christ . Oh , that's

1:17:46

American film , el Gibson . It's all in

1:17:48

, yeah , hebrew and Aramaic . Yeah , it's quite a

1:17:50

bit in Hebrew as well in the Sanhedrin Jewish

1:17:53

Council . Yeah , but yeah , it's lots of Aramaic as well . Right

1:17:56

, question 11 , boys , what's the score ? I

1:17:58

can't fucking see Johnny's winning . Alec Guinness , who's

1:18:01

guessing first ? Christ , I've got to do this

1:18:03

at the start , robbo

1:18:05

don't go wrong Okay . Alec Guinness receives an

1:18:07

Oscar nomination for his role as Obi-Wan Kenobi in

1:18:09

Star Wars .

1:18:13

Oh shit .

1:18:14

I don't think so . Alec Guinness

1:18:16

? He's more

1:18:18

machine now than man . I'm

1:18:21

going to go false . It's

1:18:24

true , right ? Final question , johnny , right , hold on , susiex

1:18:26

, talk about yourselves . Okay , I can't have

1:18:28

that air , but I need to add these up . Okay

1:18:31

, he's there .

1:18:31

Sorry when it puts my class play .

1:18:34

Yesterday they won 2-0 against Port Vale .

1:18:35

Port Vale , that's what we were looking at .

1:18:38

I don't think he was there .

1:18:40

Do you reckon he was there ? No , okay , yeah , that's

1:18:42

good See one thing I noticed .

1:18:44

I like that nothing about football , but a lot of pundits

1:18:46

that I've seen have said that the atmosphere at

1:18:48

.

1:18:48

Pompey is really good . Oh

1:18:50

yeah , he did . Marino said it .

1:18:52

Thierry-henry once said it was the best atmosphere in the military . Yeah , what's the

1:18:54

score then ? Right

1:18:57

the score is .

1:18:57

Johnny has eight . That little clink you may have heard about

1:18:59

.

1:19:00

Robbo was smashing his glass . Are

1:19:05

we nearly finished ? Johnny , you can relax in a minute

1:19:07

, right , johnny , you've got eight . Robbo

1:19:10

, you have seven . We

1:19:12

are into the last question . There's

1:19:15

no bonus . So , robbo , if you get this right , johnny

1:19:18

gets it wrong , there could be a draw . Otherwise , johnny

1:19:21

goes four to a head . Johnny's getting

1:19:23

first . James Bond has a new

1:19:25

name . James Bond has a new name . James

1:19:28

Bond has never

1:19:30

been married .

1:19:32

That is false .

1:19:37

I think that's false too , but I can't remember

1:19:39

which film Is

1:19:41

it Casino Royale ?

1:19:45

The original one , no it's Roger Moore

1:19:47

one .

1:19:48

The original Casino Royale was a parody . What's

1:19:52

his name ? It's

1:19:55

Jimmy Bond , the American version of James Bond . It's

1:19:58

so shit , it is false

1:20:00

.

1:20:01

He goes to Greystone , doesn't he ?

1:20:04

He does . That's not .

1:20:08

It's true .

1:20:11

It's to be fair . I don't know , but Roger Moore , when he was James

1:20:13

Bond , may have done a scene of him going to Greystone

1:20:15

, the film in which he's married

1:20:17

.

1:20:18

I've only seen that he went to Greystone . That's

1:20:21

what I know it's actually

1:20:23

.

1:20:24

It's false . He was married . In the film , in the book

1:20:26

on a Majesty Secret service , george

1:20:28

Lazerby , the final I

1:20:31

think it's the final shot of the film , or it's near the end is

1:20:34

he gets married . He's driving off into the sunset and

1:20:36

one of the henchmen that he failed to kill pops

1:20:38

back up , tries to assassinate James Bond , doesn't

1:20:41

manage it but kills his wife , and that was intended

1:20:43

originally to give a bit of a story arc to George Lazerby's James

1:20:45

Bond . The next film was going to be about him getting revenge for

1:20:48

his wife's death , but then of course

1:20:50

the film kind of flopped and

1:20:53

Lazerby Actually I don't know if you've seen it George

1:20:56

Lazerby's pretty good at James .

1:20:57

Bond . He gets a bad

1:20:59

rap .

1:20:59

He was at the time , but he's actually with the benefit of me , I'll

1:21:03

just Sean

1:21:05

Conny , sean Conny

1:21:07

, Sean .

1:21:09

Conny .

1:21:10

Sean Conny . Anyway , I finished

1:21:12

this shot when the star of James Bond , Sean Conny

1:21:14

. Have you seen the interview

1:21:17

from the 70s where James Bond basically says I

1:21:20

think , Sean women like a slap . They're

1:21:22

like pushing the luck , because she's a part of them

1:21:24

that actually enjoys it Ultimate Confession

1:21:27

. And that great bit is in Goldfinger when

1:21:30

he's by the Paul with Felix Sliter and he's

1:21:32

with the sexy young girl and

1:21:34

she basically walks over to the Paul to give

1:21:36

James his drink and then fix it James , can we talk

1:21:38

? We gotta talk in private . And then

1:21:40

Sean Conny turns the women around , slaps her really

1:21:42

hard on the ass and goes man talk . And

1:21:46

then one more , one more , mother fight , roger

1:21:48

Moore . When he wakes up in Goldfinger in the plane and all

1:21:50

the black ones there . And yeah , sean Conny

1:21:53

, did I say something different ? Sean

1:21:55

? Oh sorry , sean Conny . He

1:21:58

wakes up , he's been unconscious and all the black

1:22:00

ones above him playing Pussy Galore . He looks

1:22:02

at it who are you ? And she says I'm

1:22:05

Pussy Galore . Of course you are . Anyway

1:22:08

, that's that . Johnny Wins 4-2 in

1:22:10

the series and we are rapidly

1:22:13

reaching the series

1:22:15

finale , which will see it happening in

1:22:17

December .

1:22:18

Indeed .

1:22:19

Boy , is that one on a bit longer than we thought , but

1:22:22

in a good way , because we covered lots of ground .

1:22:24

We did . You

1:22:26

enjoyed that , I did . I thought it was very good . I thought it was

1:22:28

good , I enjoyed that .

1:22:30

I know you pretty smashed he .

1:22:32

Put some booze away hasn't it ?

1:22:34

Yeah , that's good , though . That's what we're here for . Right

1:22:36

until the next time , boys , we're done and

1:22:38

remember , don't be a dick , don't be a dick . Ok

1:22:42

, right , Johnny , could you keep

1:22:44

the socks off your toes . I don't want to suck on them

1:22:46

for a little while , that's all right .