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Good afternoon sunflowers . It's
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been a marvelous day in the forest . How
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are we all doing today ? A couple of things
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, Anybody ?
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else .
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Anybody else . Johnny , you got the
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safe yourself . Have you had a good day ?
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Yeah , I mean I don't know how good yours was to talk about
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sunflowers and forest , which are nowhere near any of
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us . I went back
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for it .
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I went to a sunflower forest today . Oh well , I haven't
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. You should go . It's
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very good Sunflowers on Hanging Island .
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Oh , ok , I didn't know that was one .
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See what Robbo was trying to do there . Robbo knew
0:50
where I was going . He jumped in and
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carried on talking . It's very clever , but
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you know me . I'm a massive prick . I won't give up
0:58
. I'll just wait until you finish . Yeah , a couple
1:00
of things . It's not afternoon , it's dark outside .
1:02
Oh , he's doing that one now .
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Do we have one , Johnny ? It's a fact .
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He always said no , it's , oh , no
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, actually it's eight o'clock , isn't it ?
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That's one's eight . I want to
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go home already . Yeah
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, thanks for that brilliant introduction , robbo , not
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one of your best ones , mate , I'm not going to lie . I know
1:21
you can do better . You know you can do better . Do
1:24
you want to re-record ? Do you want ?
1:25
to start again .
1:25
Sure , yeah , if I were you , you
1:29
can do it no . Ok , Anybody
1:31
else around the table seeing it ? This
1:35
is an early start . Yes , so yeah , hi
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everybody . Cheers Robbo , Thanks for that . We're
1:40
here . It's me . It's me , the M-I-C of OSD
1:42
, and I'm back here for another episode of
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Logan and the
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. I haven't thought of one this week
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. This is your chance . What
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I haven't prepared .
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Logan and the Masters . That's the one .
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Yeah , that and also this is your chance to rinse me
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. Do you want to do it again ? Jesus Christ , I'm
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throwing him a softball here , just
2:01
get on with it . You're
2:04
mistaking me for your girlfriend .
2:06
What girlfriend .
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OK , so yeah , Logan and the , I
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genuinely I did think of one , but I've forgotten it .
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Masters sounds good , doesn't it Johnny ? Yeah , we'll take that . Logan
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and the Loverballs yeah
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, OK , that sounds nice .
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You know , we're here talking about music and
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stuff that sounds like a 60s sort of band doesn't it ?
2:25
Oh yeah , logan and the Loverballs , yeah
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.
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So we're here with Scott , one of our little regulars
2:30
, but Scott's just still sitting there watching this
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week , aren't he Say hi , scott .
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Hello everyone .
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That echoed about the whole room .
2:37
That's all I've got .
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Yeah , scott is here , but Scott just wants to . You
2:42
know , very much like his usual Saturday night at
2:44
La Fleur's Club in Ferrum . Wants to watch Johnny
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, how are you ? I'm really good . Scott's
2:51
got his head in his head though .
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What's La Fleur's Club ? Anyway , I don't know .
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I just made it up . I'm hoping there isn't . Imagine
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if there was actually La Fleur's Club . And it could
3:01
be Sounds good .
3:02
Maybe there was once in the 60s .
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Oh , I like that . Well , I don't forget he's got his finger on the
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edit button , so if there is , I can remove
3:08
it . How ?
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are you ? Yeah , I'm really good . How's your head ? I'm
3:12
now recovering from my bad sunburn .
3:14
Yeah , man , that was sore , I broke my own cardinal
3:16
rule Didn't wear the Factor 50 .
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Honestly his head was like a Belizean beaker the other day . Look .
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I was a panda .
3:21
You did . Yeah , it was funny .
3:23
I feel a bit like that today because I made sure
3:25
the kids had Factor 50 on and then forgot to put
3:28
any on myself . Always good .
3:30
Yeah , but you're not looking too bad though , You're not looking like .
3:32
I'm not looking like me either , though you know
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Dave .
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Yeah , and .
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Robbo , hi , chaps , hi , how was everybody
3:38
? Yeah , I'm good , I've had a busy day
3:40
. I've had a very busy day . I've
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been down to that place , wander around for
3:44
about 10 miles in two mazes . Brilliant
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, great time .
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Good , really good and it's so sunny and lovely . It
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was very nice , beautiful Nice , and we've
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also got two friends of the show returning
3:54
. I think Patch , this is your third
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time . John is John your fourth ? Yeah , because
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John's done one on his own with this . That's not been published
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yet . It's going to be published in the next couple of weeks .
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Oh , it's finally going to be published .
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Yes , I found it . I thought I'd lost it . I'll explain the story
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shortly , but yeah , so don't forget to get close
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to the mic . Sorry , john . So yes , so
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, patch , what's your third one ? Yeah , this is my third
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yeah , and John is your fourth right . Yes , it
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is Friends of the show . So , John Bishop , say hi , John
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, Hello everybody .
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How are you doing ?
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Sit here quietly and see if we can make him uncomfortable . It's
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working Awesome and
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Patch , Patch Collins .
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Hello everyone . You know , one of the sunflowers
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out there .
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What's your favorite ?
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flower Left
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flowers .
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Very good , very good . This is where we have you on . Someone
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needs to bring the humor . So we're here
4:45
this week . We're going to well , okay . So we are going to start
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, aren't we ? Yes , today is old Johnny
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has prepared a couple . I'm going
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to quickly throw that in there . So over to Johnny . Fill
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us in with your wisdom , okay .
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Rather than your tiny flaccid cock .
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Not hungry at all , Right , so
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I've got a couple here which
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I got given by my girlfriend because I was struggling to
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find someone like which was good . So
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the first one is tinfoil . As
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you all know , I'm not a very good cook and
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I didn't know , but one side is matte and the other
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side shiny , Right Right . And
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why apparently use the mat side
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to keep the food cool ? So
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say , if you're I don't know cooking
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a cold sandwich and you want to wrap
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it , take it for lunch .
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Sorry , cooking a cold sandwich ? No , sorry , making a cold sandwich
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.
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He didn't say he's not very good at cooking .
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So yeah , so the mat's Body parts Right
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, I don't know where to go with
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that one . And
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anyway , the shiny side is to
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keep it warm . So if you made a bacon sandwich , you
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wrap it in the shiny side and
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it keeps it warm .
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Is it shiny side out or shiny
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side inside in ?
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It's okay , so it keeps the heat inside , so the mat
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side in for cold , shiny side
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in for hot .
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Oh , okay .
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Didn't know that Reflected , isn't it ? Especially
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the shiny side reflects heat , yes , back
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in , so it kind of keeps the heat contained . Yeah
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, not bad Six out of 10 .
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You can do better Okay .
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So also .
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I don't know what to do with cooking this week , but a saucepan .
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There's a hole in the handle , and
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the reason why is to stop , stop , stop , stop . I
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want to ask a quick question on this one . Right
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, john and patch .
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What do you think the holes there ? Oh
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, I think it'd be to hang it somewhere , right , john
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?
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Yeah , I'm going to hang it somewhere as well . I
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think you probably both can need to get it .
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Sorry , boys , when you speak , don't forget Come
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on harmony .
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Yeah , Don't be scared To hang it somewhere , Gentlemen John and patch Beautiful
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.
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I only said stop because that's what I thought
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when we talked about it earlier
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. The handle yeah . Are
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they right or wrong ? Johnson you are all wrong . What it is
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to hold , the wooden spoon it's to hold
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wooden spoon . People
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can't see you . Scott , why
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are you doing a visual demonstration ? You're fucking wrong . He's doing it into
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the mic . Anybody's got
7:17
a malnutrition retarded puppy out there , please
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bring one to show to replace Scott
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, because I think they do a better job .
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Yeah , and as Scott was saying what he was trying to visualize , when you
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put the wooden spoon in the hole , the remnants from the
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wooden spoon drifts back into the pan , or
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the wooden spoon , the wooden spoon
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, the wooden spoon , the wooden spoon , the wooden spoon drifts back
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into the pan .
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Awesome , Somebody's thought about that haven't they
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?
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You rest it on an angle .
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On an angle , it's an angle .
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I'm with you boys .
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I thought it was to hang it up earlier on .
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You can use it for that as well . Yeah
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, thanks , fred Cheers .
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Listeners out there . Now it's D-Land . John Greenfield has given
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you permission to hang up your saucepans if you want to
7:55
. You can now go to bed and sleep easy .
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Or use the wooden spoon as well . He
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didn't give permission for that . I've
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got one final one , which is more
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of a DIY one . I should
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be able to explain it . When
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you're hanging up a picture and it's got the string
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to hang up the picture and you
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put the nail in the wall ready and you're normally dancing
8:15
around trying to get the string onto
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the nail , which is a bit of
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a ballache , if you put a fork
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into the nail with the
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handle facing upwards , you
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hang the string over the fork
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handle and then pull the fork
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out and it's hanging on the nail I like it , I like to
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hang it up .
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Yeah .
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Very , very good .
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Absolutely genius .
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Yeah , very good . Thank you , johnny
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, there's my 30 . I think overall , I'll say nine
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out of 10 .
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Oh , perfect , very good Radicals for Johnny Wow
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.
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Does that feel like getting a word from Daddy ? I
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don't know . I saw your little face then .
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I was pretty happy with that . You beamed it's Jody's
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. Oh , they were . Yeah , two of them were Jody's
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actually .
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Jody's were nine out of 10 . Yeah , yours was three
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.
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Okay , I'll take that as a win . Okay , fair Right cheers
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.
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thank you , johnny , very , very , very
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quickly , because we're going to be sitting away from politics a little bit
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, but I just got to put this out there because it made me chuckle . Oh yeah
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. Well , what's happening tomorrow ?
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This is , oh , this is the arrest isn't it .
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Yeah , yeah , yeah .
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So it is . Oh no , Cole , which one is it ? It could
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be Georgia , it could be this , it could be anywhere . Cross
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knows it doesn't matter .
9:18
It doesn't matter .
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Yeah , but he's put well the thing I was
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looking at .
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Sorry , clarify oh
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Trumpage , sorry .
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Trumpage yeah , he's got to be . He's going to
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be arrested tomorrow . But the thing I was looking
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at is that he's he's
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got to go to court for the
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second defamation against his sexual
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assault rape victim and
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he's putting in no defense , so
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he's just going to lose . Well , he's lost already
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, he's got no defense , so . But
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he's actually putting in no defense and he's taking that
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as a position of power , so it's like
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okay . So you just don't give a shit
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anymore , do you ? He's just like , yeah , fuck everyone
9:55
, I'm just going to turn
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up and do whatever I want . I think .
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I think fuck everyone . That's the problem in the first place
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.
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That was the problem . That's why I was in this trouble .
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Fuck everyone .
10:04
Yeah , yeah , yeah , fuck you like a dog , fuck
10:06
you like a dog . Grab a bag of pussy , good bag . Yeah , so we'll
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see so
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tomorrow . Yeah , apparently he said that he will happily surrender for arrest tomorrow . It'd
10:13
be funny if they did drag him kicking and screaming . There's
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a thing like watching the other night
10:18
. I think it's completely central . I think there's a sketch where Trump
10:20
and Pence go to a kindergarten for
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the day and basically
10:24
the Trump's getting involved in all the little
10:27
paint your fingers or do all that kind of stuff and
10:30
at the end of it , when Pence is like Donald , we've got to go Donald's like
10:32
no , I don't want to go , I want to stay
10:34
, I'm not going . And he starts having some massive hissy
10:36
fit . I remember how I used to be at like two o'clock
10:38
in Kingsley's oh , yeah , yeah , and
10:42
this had pulled Sonic rough in which case couldn't
10:45
wait to leave .
10:46
Have you seen him ? I've seen him like that . That's
10:48
what she was doing . Have
10:50
you seen when he was actually at a kindergarten
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and like he turned up and walked into the classroom
10:55
and there was a couple of kids went absolutely
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apopleptic Shit
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, the bed completely got screaming
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at him and trying to get away ?
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You should just went watching your home video , Scott .
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Yes .
11:11
Like you know , turning up in a bunch of kids , start screaming and crying
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.
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That's not my school .
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I'll edit that bit out . Don't worry , Am
11:24
I fuck Right ? It's enough of that Very
11:27
pretty patch on . Have you been ? You've been good guys Good .
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Yeah , I've been very well yeah .
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Yeah , I've been pretty good mate . Thank you very much .
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Join the sunshine .
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I hope I've been looking at the sunflowers
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.
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Oh , very nice . Has the amazing
11:40
other water ? Oh sorry , patch gone .
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I'm going to go and get the sunflowers because I went to the National Gallery
11:44
on Sunday .
11:46
So what was that ?
11:47
for that was who
11:49
, paul McCartney .
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Paul McCartney , oh yeah .
11:51
Man cool , Was it good ?
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Yes , it was Very good , paul McCartney painted the sunflowers
11:55
Get lost .
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Patch Cheese boy .
11:58
Knock him out In
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30 years . He's had it coming for a while
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. Right , let's get cracking . So thanks Johnny , thanks everybody , great
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to have you here . Guys , seriously , you always love having me on the show , and
12:10
also Rob and Johnny couldn't do this without
12:12
you . As I always say , scott , fuck
12:15
off . You're just
12:17
literally the definition of a Klingon . Well
12:19
, that's mean Right now , yes
12:22
, no , no , we love
12:24
Scott . He makes everything better , yes , patch .
12:25
Sorry , it's the first time I've met Scott . I think he's all
12:27
right . He is lovely . No , he's lovely yeah
12:30
.
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There's only one person that's in type of podcast . He's a massive asshole
12:34
, and that's me . Everyone else is quite lovely , but I'm
12:36
aware of this because of my level of self-awareness . So
12:38
I try to make myself feel better and not give
12:40
into the crushing despair of how much of a content
12:42
I am by making everybody else try to make me
12:44
feel as shit as I am . Is it working ?
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Okay .
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I don't know where that came from .
12:50
It's all concern . I didn't expect . I've got to be honest . Psychology 101
12:52
. You hate yourself .
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You make everybody else hate themselves too . You
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suddenly don't feel alone . We don't hate ourselves . I
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know that dickhead . That's the whole point I'm
13:02
trying to , but it's just not working . No , not at all
13:04
, not hung . We
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like you too , scott . I like you , scott .
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I like you , Scott .
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I like you , especially when you're naked and restrained
13:13
.
13:13
I'm afraid Naked and afraid .
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I'm leaving that being Hang on After
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some of the one lines you can't come out with . You can't suddenly play
13:20
Mr Ooh , that's too far I know
13:23
, hold on .
13:25
I'm not even supposed to play , just
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leave me out of this , okay
13:30
.
13:30
No , you sat in the hall . You could have sat on the sofa .
13:32
I've been well out of it , but you chose to sit there .
13:34
So it's like sitting in the front row of you
13:36
know SeaWorld and then complaining when you get wet or
13:39
going on a date with your mum . Right
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, let's go .
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So what we're going to talk about this week , and
13:45
then complaining when you get wet .
13:49
That was the joke . Oh , for fuck's sake .
13:51
Right , this is great , so yes , so
13:54
, so , so .
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So we're here to talk about the greatest Decadie music ever . Each of
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the boys here today have chosen a different deck . Well
13:58
, some of them did , the others got one more default , basically
14:01
. Paul Robbo , I mentioned it and everybody
14:03
jumped on a decade and Robbo said um well , which one
14:05
side I went ? There's only the 70s left right
14:08
. Sorry , but I got from that . It's still pretty good , pretty
14:10
good . So what we're going to do is each of the boys is going to go around and talk individually
14:12
. We're going to do it in decade order and
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they're going to talk for as long as they want , really , about why they
14:16
think that particular decade is the greatest
14:18
decade for music ever made . And
14:21
then they're going to talk about two artists . It
14:23
could be one band , one solo artist , two solo artists
14:25
, two bands , whatever , um , that particularly
14:28
for them stand out in that decade , and why . And
14:30
then two songs that stand out for them in that decade . Now
14:32
, the important thing here the listeners , um
14:34
, especially those you would be in them . Jing Hao impressed
14:37
, no
14:39
idea what that means Uh . Important for listeners
14:41
to remember is that this is not about the best setting artists . The
14:43
most famous artist is the opinion of um
14:46
, who they feel meant the most to them , who resonated
14:49
, who still to this day sticks in their mind and
14:51
still has meaning . And the same with the
14:53
songs . At the end of each round
14:55
, um , they're encouraged people to ask
14:57
questions , if they won after the
15:00
initial um debate , about
15:02
why they think that decade is the best . So before we go
15:04
into the artists and the songs , there'll
15:06
be a chance for people to ask questions and , you know
15:08
, say stuff , and at the end of that round
15:10
, each person will secretly send me a WhatsApp score
15:12
out of five as to how persuasive they
15:14
thought that person's argument was . So nobody
15:16
knows who's scoring and what they're doing . I will not
15:18
be taking part in the scoring at all , um , because
15:21
I'm going to be honest here , rob , I would end up on
15:23
minus points .
15:23
He would lose Just to annoy .
15:26
And then , at the very end , when it was out of go , we will
15:28
announce the scores and announce who
15:30
the winner of this debate was . So , again , a departure
15:33
from OSD , something we've not done before , but
15:35
we're looking forward to it , right .
15:36
Yeah , I think indeed , yeah all
15:38
good , all right .
15:40
So we're going to start with the sixties , which is patch
15:42
. So patch is going to talk about the sixties and um
15:44
, yes , this is your moment . Let's
15:47
just try to put the microphone down . To patch is scrotum , um
15:51
, I tried .
15:53
That was no microphone .
15:55
Uh , so patch , take it away please . May I talk to us
15:57
about the sixties .
15:59
Yeah , I will talk to you about the sixties . Um
16:01
, been told sort of you know , come up
16:03
with some things to
16:05
talk about for about 15 minutes about the sixties
16:07
. To be quite honest , I
16:10
don't need to . There's one word influence
16:12
by two words
16:15
beginning . There's quite a lot of words . All
16:17
right , I'm going to talk about quite a lot then . So we probably have about 15
16:19
minutes .
16:20
Nobody expects the Spanish .
16:22
Um , yeah , I've got the sixties . Uh
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, for those of people that do know me , uh
16:27
, playing a band , I play guitar . What
16:30
got me to play guitar , what got me
16:32
to , um , get into music
16:34
, really was the sixties , and
16:37
the reason behind it
16:39
is variety , massive , massive
16:41
amount of variety . Um
16:44
, you go back to the early sixties
16:46
, you just think it's sort of , uh , it's , it's a bit naff
16:48
at that sort of time , but it wasn't . You had Bob Dylan
16:50
coming through with the folk music movement
16:52
. You had the girl groups , the do what groups
16:54
, um , the Sharals
16:57
, those type of groups . Then
16:59
, of course , after that you had the Beatles
17:01
massive seismic
17:04
moment . Yeah , who , one
17:06
at one .
17:06
This yeah , whatever happened to him .
17:10
Well , I need a band . Wings could have been .
17:14
Hey , this is why I love you so much . Um yeah .
17:19
So they ? They came on the scene and music
17:21
changed , in my opinion and
17:23
quite a few
17:25
other people's opinions , um
17:27
, but at that time , were
17:29
they the group
17:31
that everyone thought they turned out to be ? No
17:33
, they weren't . They were in a mix of other groups
17:36
that come out . That time you had the Mersey beat senior
17:38
Jerry and the pacemaker Dave Clark
17:40
five in the UK that were just
17:42
as big as the Beatles when they came out . They were
17:44
, they were on a um a pile with them , but
17:48
then you had Motown that came alongside
17:50
from that as well .
17:52
So I'm really interested in it
17:54
. Why do you think the Beatles did then break free from
17:56
that pack ? And I didn't know , the day of club five
17:59
was big in this country , what ? Why do you think
18:01
the Beatles managed to break free from their name ? What
18:03
else would become this global phenomenon ?
18:05
I think , when you listen , in my
18:07
opinion , and in my opinion
18:09
, when you listen to their
18:12
music and that period
18:15
63 , 64 , the
18:17
beat , the beat combos of guitars
18:19
and drums , um , but
18:21
then after that they just went into different
18:24
gear and , um , when
18:26
you look there , there uh , recording period
18:28
, and this isn't about the Beatles , this is a
18:30
60s question .
18:32
But , they were the .
18:33
Beatles . I mean from October
18:35
62 to January 1970
18:38
, that was their time that
18:40
they were together as a professional
18:42
recording group and in
18:44
such , in such a short space of time
18:46
, they had such a massive catalog
18:49
of different types of music . Now
18:51
, whereas the Jerry and the pacemakers and
18:53
the day club five , they stuck
18:56
in that beat combo , they didn't really
18:58
change , they didn't they didn't
19:00
evolve Okay , so sorry about that , I sideline you
19:02
. So in my opinion
19:04
that's why . That's why they moved
19:07
away and then other groups sort of joined . The
19:09
stones are probably similar . You talk about the stones
19:11
. They came out in 64 , a little bit later 63
19:14
, 64 . And again
19:16
they changed . I mean they started off as a blues combo
19:18
, you know , and um , from then on that
19:21
they've evolved into that and
19:23
um , so for me the 60s
19:25
isn't just a Beatles and the stones , there's
19:27
everything else that goes with it . You
19:30
know , you started off with with guitar groups
19:32
and you started off with with that sort of thing , but
19:34
then just , it just rose so
19:36
rapidly and then moving forward
19:39
, and now every one of you tonight is going to be talking
19:41
about a decade . There's no way
19:43
that any decade cannot be influenced by
19:45
the 60s , absolutely not . And um
19:47
, so for me it's
19:50
not just the fact that it was first because the fifties
19:52
would , they had rock and roll , but then you had
19:54
so much different stuff coming into the sixties
19:56
. You had festivals , you had
19:58
Woodstock , you had the Isle of Wight festival , so
20:01
you had the birth of that , you had the birth of Stadium
20:03
Rock , um , all
20:05
the things that sort of grew later on , I mean when
20:07
the Beatles and all
20:09
those groups in the early sort of sixties they were
20:11
playing with PA systems that were
20:13
probably worse than what I play in my band .
20:15
What was it ? The animals were slashing the speakers in
20:18
their amps . Kinks , the kinks to get
20:20
a distorted sound .
20:21
Yeah .
20:22
Um , and , and they literally just had the
20:24
band PA that they were playing in sort of the small clubs with . They
20:27
were then going in playing stadiums with playing sort of Shade
20:29
Stadium and places like that with it . Um
20:31
, and then they realized that that had to evolve
20:33
and the other groups coming through . You had
20:36
the birth of synthesizers , really
20:38
the first sort of late sixties . You had the first synthesizer
20:40
, hammond organ or something . Oh
20:42
yeah , yeah , hammond organ , but you had the actual sym
20:44
. the MOOG synthesizer came in in sort
20:46
of the late sixties Sort of .
20:49
That's what you'd have to stop . You keep talking to it , you finish
20:51
yeah , but um , I'm going to
20:53
put money down that Johnny is shitting himself right
20:55
now . This , this
20:57
is very intelligent , very erigite . Um
21:01
, you've clearly put a lot of thought into this . I'm
21:03
fairly confident John's sitting there going . All I
21:05
had was I liked it . Look
21:09
at his lip . I'm right , aren't I ?
21:12
Yeah , yeah , I know I'm sitting there
21:14
thinking oh shit .
21:16
Beautiful . Sorry , mate , no , no , no , it's
21:18
really good .
21:19
That's why .
21:19
I'm sitting there silent thinking Get his brain
21:22
working . Now I'm going down
21:24
to that . He's just to be away from you . I couldn't
21:26
even see you because Scott's in the way , but I'm thinking
21:28
, oh , he's a little face right now he's thinking fucking
21:30
hell . I was just going to talk about , like you know , oasis
21:33
.
21:35
Sorry , pat , this is really really good stuff
21:37
, mate , no so , yes , you had the different instrumentation
21:40
, you had the different types of music and
21:43
, as I say , I mean , if you look at the Beatles career
21:45
as a
21:48
stamp for the 60s , so starting
21:50
with Love Me Do and finishing with Let it Be and
21:53
everything in between that they did , that
21:55
to me , is why the 60s is
21:58
such an important part
22:00
of the whole of music , and
22:02
I really do think it's influenced every
22:04
single piece of music that's come after it with
22:06
regards to how
22:09
things are done , and you
22:11
can trace everything back through to the 60s
22:13
, really , in my opinion . So
22:17
that's why it's a variety , it's the influence
22:19
. You've got heavy metal coming through . You had the
22:21
likes of Steppenwolf , you had the likes
22:23
of Led Zeppelin , so
22:25
everything that followed on from that and
22:28
, as I say , you had effectively
22:30
synthesized the music being born
22:32
. It was all there .
22:34
It was all there in the 60s . Lost points for not mentioning Van
22:36
Halen . Then , when you saw that music coming through , no
22:38
, they went in the 60s . They were 63 , weren't they
22:40
?
22:41
That's why I think of going to an extra point there . Ever nice
22:44
, yeah , look at .
22:46
Churky over there . I thought he was going to get
22:48
one over on me and he just sat there and
22:51
blurted out a complete lie .
23:00
I don't think so . It's a calm , oh , oh , oh
23:02
, oh , oh , oh .
23:03
Oh , oh , oh , oh
23:05
, it's perfect , it's brilliant , I just
23:08
so hope they might pick that up , Scott .
23:11
So well , will you sort of get over it now if
23:13
I don't mention Van Halen , because it's been mentioned
23:15
already by you in the wrong decade .
23:17
Yes .
23:18
Yeah , yeah .
23:20
To be honest , if you were hanging on a cliff edge by your fingertips
23:22
, I would stamp on them just because it would be funny to
23:25
see how angry you get . You know
23:27
you'll fucks whatever . Yeah , so fair
23:29
point . Yeah , maybe pricking myself yet again , you
23:32
know . But hey , I don't mind , I could take it happens . Here's the joke
23:34
. Perhaps that was brilliant
23:36
that was really really interesting . Thank you , no problem at all
23:38
. Guys , anybody
23:40
else like John , anybody else like why , would it
23:43
say ? It sounds to me like what you're saying is it was as much to do
23:45
with the evolution of music and the
23:47
many different styles that you
23:50
live the room . There are many different
23:52
styles that it's
23:56
like a petulant teacher . Yes , I've been embarrassed
23:58
, I have to try and get back some cool points .
24:01
By acting like a petulant teacher . Yes , will
24:05
they ever call you ?
24:05
love that role play . You
24:08
love that role play . Naughty school by Johnny
24:10
and headmaster Andy .
24:12
What have you been watching on the internet Too much
24:14
.
24:18
You know , the other good thing about this is that there was wasn't really laughing
24:20
because we were on the tables and he take a breath and he was like where the
24:22
fuck is he going with this ? I'm uncomfortable
24:25
. Edit button . Edit button
24:27
. Yeah , so it's much to do with how
24:29
much music evolved . Like you know , I
24:31
don't know . I mean I'm not getting involved in the debate
24:33
per se tonight because I know fuck all about music . You
24:35
know that's just demonstrated by the van Van Halen , my
24:37
favorite band of all time . Didn't even know when they were formed . But
24:40
it seems to me like from what you're saying is that maybe 30
24:43
, 40 , 50s was a gradual kind of evolution in music . It
24:45
was an explosion in the 60s , totally Different
24:47
instruments and different sounds .
24:50
And yeah , a different . I
24:52
mean you can look at any year in the 60s and
24:54
a different type of music that coming out
24:57
every year . So , yeah , Brilliant
24:59
. And then also the other thing is longevity
25:01
really for the acts that are still going
25:03
now . They're talking today on the radio about
25:06
a Stones album being released . You
25:09
know , so Average age of 164
25:12
.
25:13
Why do we think they're still at this ? Are there any
25:15
big Stones fans around the table ?
25:18
No , not , particularly not as a band .
25:21
Fuck about what you think after You're
25:23
not even here . I was more interested
25:25
in just their lifestyle .
25:26
I think that was interesting
25:28
.
25:28
They're still how , they're all still here . Always , keep for it
25:30
.
25:32
He's pickled .
25:33
He's still breathing , but
25:36
that was kind of my point .
25:37
That was um uh why do you think they're
25:39
still doing it ? I don't need the money .
25:41
Surely you want to go home and put your feet up , retired
25:43
, just like in the own watch , like home's under the
25:45
hammer .
25:46
Which one of my wife shall I go and visit today ?
25:48
But the thing is , it's all they've ever known .
25:51
Yeah .
25:54
I also think there's a bit of thing about it to
25:56
do with like adulation , and when you've had that
25:58
sort of success on stage , you
26:01
want to just keep doing it . That's how you get your high . You're
26:03
going to keep doing it for years and years and years . They're
26:05
filling stadiums . So you know why not .
26:07
I guess I'd like our college band , hey John , jump
26:09
the gun . Exactly Legendary
26:12
band . They were in college , legendary shit . Uh
26:14
, anybody got any questions about what you said ? Anything
26:16
you want to push back on or agree with or any thoughts ? No , I think
26:18
it's absolutely right .
26:19
I think the 60s was an explosion
26:22
of , uh , of new music , and there's no doubt
26:24
about that . It was , you know . Yeah , like you
26:26
say , you had the Elvis of the 50s , um
26:28
, and and the rock and roll kind of
26:30
beginning of that From
26:33
an outsider looking in , because I'm not doing
26:35
a decade but 60s
26:37
for me , just smashed
26:39
it down .
26:40
Van Halen , they were in the 60s , they were in
26:42
the 60s .
26:44
One of the most famous bands for the 60s . Don't worry , don't
26:46
worry , johnny .
26:48
You'll , you'll , you'll get your chance to have the lowest losing
26:50
score in a bit . All right , and in my mind
26:52
, I'm the one who's going to see these .
26:53
I thought you weren't judging again Again .
26:54
I again I know Robo right , robo at the time is going to
26:56
get like minus 50 and he'll be pissed by then and he might get
26:59
it , might get a little bit unpeeped . He'll just give up with it and
27:01
then at some point in three o'clock in the morning he's going to something and go the fuck
27:03
. Did that happen ?
27:04
And I'll get an angry kid . I want to see
27:06
those scores .
27:08
Patch .
27:09
Thank you .
27:11
So next piece to artists could be bands solo
27:13
, whatever the really mean , a lot of shit that they
27:15
create at the gate . And
27:17
every week I say this does anybody else want to take
27:19
over ? Clearly not fit for the job . No
27:22
one ever puts the hand up . One day someone will , and then I'm
27:24
going to absolutely panic .
27:26
Because nobody wants to be on the main mic
27:28
. And then have you sitting there picking
27:30
off .
27:38
You boys are on fire . Tonight . I tell
27:40
you , you boys are on fire , yes
27:42
, patch . So two bands , artists
27:44
, two songs that mean something
27:46
to you . You represent a decade .
27:48
Okay , well , to me obviously it
27:50
is big no surprise to anybody , but it'd be the Beatles
27:53
and why
27:55
they mean so much to me . They
27:57
got me into playing guitar , they
28:00
influenced me into playing guitar with the Beatles
28:02
and probably
28:04
quite a few million people . And
28:06
the other artist is
28:08
Bob Dylan . For me , because
28:12
of again , you look back
28:14
at his catalogue of work and I
28:16
mean you can buy any Bob Dylan cover
28:19
album and you think this is a magnificent song
28:21
. Not necessarily his versions of the song
28:23
, but the people he's influenced as he
28:25
goes through . So they're the two artists
28:27
, the Beatles and Dylan . Have they really got Dylan
28:29
?
28:30
Scott , do you like ?
28:31
I've got to be honest . I
28:33
can understand he's a poet and I love
28:36
it , yeah . But at the same time , yeah , his
28:38
music , for me personally , is
28:40
something in nothing . But I
28:43
think I'm just a little bit
28:45
too young to hit that .
28:46
Yeah , no , I'll get that . I'll get that completely
28:49
. But , as I say , if you buy a covers album
28:51
, you'll have Absolutely .
28:53
He sounded like he was singing through a kazoo , didn't he ?
28:55
Oh , he sounded like a hoover
28:57
playing through a kazoo , but then you have other
28:59
bands like the .
29:00
Birds . I love it so much Brilliant yeah
29:03
.
29:03
The Birds massively influenced Bob Dylan . You listen
29:05
to their stuff so it's the influence of him on
29:07
other bands and artists .
29:09
Hendrix , hendrix , all along the watchtower . I think
29:11
it certainly creates where
29:14
your parents' influences were , as
29:16
well , yeah , 100% From where ? Because
29:18
my mum was very much into .
29:19
Motown and some of that , so I was very influenced with that side
29:21
. Yeah , hock , 100% . She was into
29:23
Hock .
29:24
Nobody can throw that in . She might listen to
29:26
this Wow .
29:28
She does .
29:29
You say she was into Hock , hock was into
29:31
her .
29:32
Okay , maybe not . I'm
29:34
going to scorch there . He always
29:37
set the rules of engagement tonight Never be a yeah
29:39
. I
29:41
had a really good singer then as well , even better than that
29:43
one . I forgot that .
29:44
No .
29:45
Kind of be that good then yeah
29:47
, oh no , hendrix , you mentioned Hendrix . Yeah , fuck Hendrix . If
29:51
Hendrix hadn't have died when he did , he'd be like just another guitarist
29:53
. He's not Fuck off , he's not that good . I
29:55
just thought because he died young All
29:58
.
29:58
I'm going to say is the door's been shit man ? All I'm going to say is
30:00
Jim .
30:00
Morrison was a pretentious sub-cult
30:04
leader , pathetic
30:06
pseudo-spiritualist twat
30:08
with long hair who didn't have to wear a shirt on the stage
30:10
because he died young .
30:13
What decade it was in . All I'm going
30:15
to say is based on what the you don't know who your real
30:17
parents are .
30:18
It doesn't stop you loving them .
30:19
That's true . They're out there somewhere
30:22
.
30:22
I bet they're Welsh . That's gosh .
30:24
Was that fine .
30:28
Do you want ?
30:28
to share that with the class ? No , no it's fine .
30:30
I did try , I
30:33
did try , but you wouldn't show that teacher base
30:35
.
30:35
What the hell have you been ?
30:36
watching .
30:37
Patch two songs .
30:39
Did you want to make your point , Andy ? It was just Sorry .
30:42
What I was going to say was at the beginning of this
30:44
sort of session , logan said I don't know
30:46
anything about music , and I think he's just proved it .
30:54
I also thought he wasn't going
30:56
to give his own opinion .
30:59
That's never going to happen . We all know , Logan
31:01
don't we .
31:04
That's a good show , isn't it
31:06
? Two songs . This guy just kicked me
31:08
up and down as if to say fuck off . I
31:11
meant emotionally Same
31:14
thing . Yes , yeah , you're
31:16
right , sorry boys . Yeah , sorry , sorry , sorry , sorry , robert , you're trying to make a point
31:18
I didn't notice . I apologize , mate Patched
31:21
two songs .
31:21
Two songs . We've already mentioned them
31:24
and one of my favorite
31:26
songs of all time is Bother Stones . I say
31:28
I don't particularly like them as a band
31:30
now , but some of their music and
31:32
Paint it Black for
31:34
me , very good . If I'm summing up the 60s
31:36
, that to me sums up everything .
31:38
It takes in Vietnam and everything doesn't it .
31:40
Yeah .
31:40
Why . It's just everything about
31:42
it . It's
31:45
just for me . It's that mid-60s
31:47
period For me , 65 , 66
31:50
, my favorite two sort of period of
31:52
the 60s , and that one's smack
31:54
bang in the middle of it . It just sums
31:56
up everything for me . I don't know , it's just emotive
31:58
and probably because I watched Torra
32:00
Duty , Absolutely Cool
32:06
. And second song , which is a bit
32:08
of a strange one but it's not as well , is
32:10
Steppenwolf Born to Be Wild
32:12
. Hey , nice , Because when you
32:14
hear it you just think , yeah , here we
32:16
go .
32:17
So recognizable , isn't it ?
32:18
Yeah , and you sing along to it , you shout
32:20
along to it , you have your windows down if
32:22
you're driving and if you're on
32:28
a motorbike , we're not that sums up the 60s .
32:30
Awesome mate , thanks mate . And sitting
32:32
here , dicking here , throwing in every
32:34
two seconds , despite what I said , not the
32:36
most severe opinion , really really
32:38
good . That was great . Very
32:42
, very , very quickly for viewers , listeners
32:44
, it'll be seamless . But we're going to have a quick break . So if you
32:46
want to have a cigarette can or get a drink , and
32:48
please , boys , send me your WhatsApp out of five
32:51
for . Patch's spectacular
32:53
contribution Cheers , patch
32:55
, okay
32:57
, patch , beautiful Once
32:59
more .
33:00
Thank you very much .
33:00
We just had a quick drink refill break
33:02
and toilet comfort break which , the magic
33:05
of the listeners' home , was seamless , but in reality
33:07
, because of the way the dick splash here , edits , it
33:09
probably won't be .
33:10
Yeah .
33:10
Rob your . Next year we'll talk about the 70s . I will .
33:13
Go , I am going to , so , thanks
33:15
.
33:15
Thanks , rob , really insightful , I appreciate it .
33:17
Let's move on the feeding into all of this
33:20
, the 70s stuff , because it's basically I'm
33:22
going to sort of just briefly touch
33:24
on a lot of the stuff that you already said so
33:26
, because the 60s was
33:28
the best decade for rock . There's no doubt about
33:31
it . It was the advent of it , where it really developed
33:33
, and all that kind of stuff . So , but it was
33:35
like the counterculture , wasn't it ? Sort of the 60s
33:37
counterculture . So you had Dylan , the Beatles , stones
33:40
, soul , motown and , as
33:42
you said , the festivals like Woodstock . They were
33:44
the initial blast
33:46
into the stratosphere for that , and
33:49
I love the other white stories . They're brilliant
33:51
, it was so disastrous , it was absolutely fantastic
33:53
. But
33:56
also in the 60s you had all the social struggles
33:58
, like the civil rights movement , which fed
34:00
a lot of the music , especially the likes of Dylan and
34:03
things like that . So it's like you've got all these political issues
34:05
and you've got all the civil rights and socials
34:08
, what Go on , go on .
34:09
This is great , so you're great . 70s You're
34:12
going to get to the 70s in a minute . Well , like what you were
34:14
here for .
34:20
Anyway , moving on . But
34:22
the 70s is the key
34:24
to understanding popular music in the
34:26
modern era . Oh sorry , You're
34:29
such a prick .
34:32
Like I always say to you , the only person that looks like a prick
34:34
is me .
34:36
Then it worry you but everybody knows that it
34:39
doesn't hurt to be reminded .
34:43
Anyway . So where was I ? So yeah , music
34:45
really came into its own into the 70s as
34:47
an artistic cultural movement , Because
34:50
all of the stuff that was pioneered
34:52
in the 60s was then enhanced
34:54
and improved upon and elaborated
34:57
and just experimented
35:01
with . It was a mental era
35:03
. You look at some of the stuff that went on there . It was
35:05
just nuts they did all
35:07
sorts of shit . You know , you got the
35:09
likes of Kiss with their outfits and all this kind
35:11
of stuff . It was just crazy . There was this and
35:14
Halon , or was
35:16
that a bit ? stayed 80s
35:20
. I think
35:22
they're around in the late 70s .
35:24
We're getting there .
35:24
We're getting closer . We are getting closer
35:27
, so I think with
35:31
after the Beatles split in the
35:34
60s . It kind of in my
35:36
mind it kind of sort of froze
35:38
the 60s as that sort of initial
35:41
period of exploration and
35:43
what's the word I'm looking for . I can't
35:45
think of it , but it's where they first tried
35:47
things and then in the 70s
35:50
they really went to town . So
35:52
you've got the angst
35:54
of punk . All of this leads from people like
35:56
the Beatles . There's no doubt about it . You cannot
35:58
look at a band today and you cannot go
36:01
back to somewhere like the 60s and go . I
36:03
can see an influence there .
36:05
My dad , always used to say that he
36:07
believed that without Buddy Holly there
36:12
wouldn't have been a Beatles . I know this isn't Reverend's what you're saying
36:14
, I'm just curious . As I said genuinely , I'm
36:16
just a gobb on a stick . I don't know much
36:18
about music , so I remember my dad saying , though , that
36:20
he felt Buddy Holly influenced . Well
36:22
, you're a fan of Buddy .
36:24
Holly , are you , do you agree ? Yeah , we spoke about it last
36:26
time .
36:27
I was on , we spoke about Buddy Holly and he was massive
36:29
, massive influence to me and
36:32
to all music , I think . Again you look
36:35
at short careers . I mean , he died in
36:37
21-22 , I think he was when he died . You
36:40
look at his songbook and yeah
36:42
, 100% Buddy Holly , to me Perfect
36:44
.
36:44
Sorry , I was just curious . Can we talk about the Beatles
36:47
influence ? Yeah , yeah , I agree . With my limited knowledge
36:49
, I'd say that actually you can trace that
36:51
back to Buddy Holly .
36:52
Yeah , absolutely . And all
36:54
of those people would have been influenced by people before
36:57
them and then everybody after them was influenced
37:00
by them . So it's just it's
37:02
basically taking that battle and carrying it forward
37:04
. So 60s
37:06
lead to lead into the 70s really
37:09
, you know , obviously really smoothly , and you've
37:11
got all of these influences from the 60s
37:13
that everybody loves and really enjoys . And
37:15
it's that initial experimentation
37:17
that led to the 70s where it really exploded
37:19
. So , yeah , so
37:23
they came into and a lot of the bands that you
37:25
mentioned like I'm not
37:27
going to talk about the Beatles so much because you know more about than I
37:29
do , so you probably argue the toss . But
37:31
the Stones specifically
37:34
, they were around in the 60s but their
37:36
seminal albums like Sticky Fingers , things
37:39
like that , that was in the 70s . So they really
37:41
improved their sound , they mastered
37:43
their art and then in the 70s they really
37:46
exploded . So their popularity
37:48
was massive then and it's not to
37:50
take anything away from the 60s at all
37:52
, because that's where they originated . But I
37:55
think there's a lot of bands XR
37:57
Main Street was the other one and they're
37:59
just , even today
38:02
, their albums that people pick up and play
38:04
and they will listen to end to end they
38:06
almost sort of talking about the 60s was honing
38:08
the craft , experimenting honing
38:11
the sound , the 70s was honing the craft
38:13
, experimenting , finding the sound , and the 70s
38:15
was when that kind of reached
38:17
its
38:20
fruition .
38:20
So maybe my son's who's talking about them so in the 60s were really
38:22
good . It wasn't till the 70s when they did their
38:24
most seminal albums and all that kind of stuff
38:26
.
38:26
It's like a lot of things , somebody comes out and they do something
38:28
different , and then and I'm
38:31
gonna liken this to cars and
38:33
motorbikes Obviously
38:36
, cars , you know motorbikes , things
38:38
like that they were invented a long
38:40
time before , but it wasn't until the
38:43
likes of the Japanese got hold of them and they
38:45
really started to improve things massively
38:48
, because people have like a sort of set mindset
38:50
from where they were created . So they
38:52
do things a certain way and then somebody
38:55
else outside of that gets hold
38:57
of it and goes I've got a better
38:59
idea , I'm gonna take your idea
39:01
and I'm gonna smash it out the park . And
39:03
I think that's basically the premise
39:05
of the 70s . It was this you
39:08
just look at the people that came out . You've got James Brown , marvin
39:11
Gaye , you've got Stevie Wonder . Okay , it was
39:13
Motown , but it was the 70s where
39:15
he really excelled , which was crazy
39:17
because he came , was in . I don't
39:19
know how old he is , but when he first came out , which
39:21
I assume was the 60s , he was 12 . Little
39:23
.
39:23
Stevie Wonder yeah
39:26
.
39:26
He was 12 and he was performing
39:28
and recording . It's like mental
39:31
yeah .
39:31
There's a great thing on Instagram . I think it's
39:33
you , didn't I ? Where's Dr Dre and
39:35
Kevin ?
39:36
Hart .
39:37
Yeah talk about Stevie Wonder and you cut long story short
39:39
, basically talking about like Dr Dre working with Stevie
39:41
Wonder . He's Stevie Wonder . I've found you like four in the morning and
39:44
just found you at like all kinds of odd times . It came in the heart said
39:46
well , look to be fair , stevie Wonder doesn't know what the fucking time
39:48
is , does he ?
39:52
So , yeah , sorry . So you got James
39:54
Brown , Marvin Gaye . Hip hop started till in
39:57
the 70s . That was the beginning of that Prog
39:59
Rock , zeppelin , sabbath Well , again
40:01
, zeppelin was the 60s , but their
40:03
seminal albums of 70s
40:05
, weren't they ? And then you got AC DC , queen
40:09
, the Eagles . You
40:11
can't argue with those bands , they're just huge
40:14
. They're huge .
40:15
Please say Fleetwood Mac . It's my
40:17
favorite album . Might do , I
40:20
might do .
40:20
I mentioned them , everybody
40:22
mentioned . So yeah , elton John , fleetwood Mac . So
40:25
you've got huge , huge , huge , massive
40:27
bands that people like yourself obviously
40:29
are massive fans of today . I know so
40:31
many people who are absolutely passionate
40:34
about Fleetwood Mac and I've never been a massive
40:36
fan . Although I appreciate a
40:38
lot of their songs , I've never been a huge fan
40:40
of them . Now
40:43
, the one thing that really , I
40:45
think sums up the 70s for me is disco
40:47
, and that
40:50
even resonates today , don't it ? Because if
40:52
you go to a nightclub and they
40:54
put on a Jackson 5 or they put on , I
40:56
don't know , the Isley Brothers or something like that , it's
40:58
a floorfiller . It's massive , huge , and
41:01
they are brilliant , brilliant , brilliant songs
41:03
the Motown stuff the upbeat Motown
41:05
from the 70s was just amazing . The Bee
41:08
Gees so all of these people
41:10
are all influenced by the 60s
41:12
, but they're huge in the 70s
41:14
. Silla back , yeah
41:17
, moving on . So
41:26
, I did touch on punk and hip
41:28
hop , but electronic music started in the
41:30
70s as well , with people like Kraftwerk
41:32
. They were that crazy German band
41:34
, weren't they Mental ? But that's
41:36
where . That's the kernel of
41:39
source for that whole thing . And
41:41
then I don't think there's much
41:43
argument with , like
41:46
main acts
41:49
from the 70s if you don't mention Bowie
41:52
. Bowie's massive . He took whatever
41:54
was being done by the Stones and the Beatles and
41:56
all this lot and then he just kind of went
42:00
into a mental hospital and then came out with
42:02
some weird stuff . But it's amazing
42:04
, it was brilliant and it just changed the way
42:06
that people looked at music . So
42:08
I think you
42:11
want to ask the other question about
42:13
which acts girls just about to go straight into that
42:15
, but what I was going to say
42:17
you know , I love poking the angry bear because he's so
42:19
delightful .
42:20
He's dangerous because he's genuinely gets
42:22
really angry . But I have to say that was super
42:24
. That was really really good . Thanks mate , I really , really
42:26
enjoyed listening to that . I thought no one was going to travel
42:28
patch after
42:32
that , but you know you're back in there , yeah , but
42:34
it's the 60s that leads into the 70s .
42:36
So we're a team , so we should combine our scores
42:38
.
42:41
If I haven't won , then we will . Oh yeah , fair
42:44
enough , that makes sense .
42:45
Sounds a good deal to me . I'm still a Johnny shit
42:48
himself even more .
42:50
Now John's gonna have 10 seconds again . My
42:55
mummy's fine , I have to go home . Yeah , brilliant
42:57
, robert . Thank you so much , mate , I was really good . So
43:00
yes , two , two bands or artists
43:02
and two songs . That means
43:04
something to resonate for you , or that tickly somehow
43:06
.
43:06
Yeah , I think . I think
43:09
the first one was kind of a no brainer because
43:11
he's kind of been a constant
43:13
thing , in that
43:15
his music has just been around
43:17
ever since I can remember , and it's Stevie
43:19
Wonder . Superstition
43:21
, I think , is just a
43:24
phenomenal track . It's just amazing , do
43:26
you remember ? There's that guy , john Snow , I think he was
43:28
an investigative reporter for the Z2
43:31
, john Snow's at BBC . There's a big
43:33
, really tall . There's a really tall guy
43:35
, maybe it's not John Snow .
43:37
John Snow , the tall guy , used to do news night and
43:39
all kind of stuff like that . This guy was out in the fields
43:41
night and then he moved to .
43:43
John Bishop , I can't remember , but whoever this guy
43:45
is , he wrote a book and I read this book and
43:47
he said that he was in Afghanistan or somewhere
43:49
in the in the back of beyond , in the Far
43:51
East , somewhere . And he said he was , he
43:54
was dressed I think he was dressed in a burqa because
43:57
he was trying to get somewhere to cover some story
43:59
and it was all secret and blah , blah , blah . And
44:01
he said he was walking along and there was like all these sort
44:03
of bed of intents and he was on this dirt
44:05
road and then all he could hear in the
44:07
background was and he's like I can hear
44:10
Stevie Wonder Superstition
44:14
blasting out one of these tanks
44:17
and it's like completely in the middle of nowhere .
44:20
Anyway , that's , anyway , that's fine .
44:21
Next one was the second one . Next one was really
44:24
hard because there's so many . There's so many songs
44:26
from lots of different people is like Tom Jones
44:29
is . I don't like a lot of Bowie stuff . I must
44:31
admit I'm not a massive fan of Bowie
44:33
, but there's a lot of his stuff that I do like
44:35
. But I'm going to squeeze
44:37
in . I'm going to squeeze in Hendricks , because
44:39
he's always been a big influence of mine and
44:42
he died in the 70s so he's still there .
44:45
So and then ask me honestly did you
44:47
, did you put that in before I made a tit of myself earlier
44:49
on ?
44:52
Did I ? Yeah ? Yeah , he's always been an
44:54
influence for me .
44:55
Okay , he didn't get the joke . Then that's fine
44:59
, because you meant you can knock him down . I
45:01
can't remember .
45:01
And it's half out the call back too far away .
45:04
I can't get that . Sorry about
45:06
Hendricks . Why , oh Hendrick ?
45:08
I don't know why . To be honest , it's just something
45:10
about his music . When I first heard
45:12
it I was like I really like that . It's just absolutely
45:15
blew my socks off and I thought that is
45:17
great .
45:18
I really like that . That's the whole point . This is what . If it
45:20
resonates for you , Okay and songwise
45:22
songwise from Hendricks is just
45:24
so many .
45:29
There's one that I really like and it's easy
45:32
rider because I just like the way it
45:34
sort of fall you know , just
45:36
falls out of his guitar is brilliant patches
45:38
nodding safely in the cream , and I think it's
45:40
a , it's one of his most well
45:42
known ones . There's hundreds of his songs that are really
45:44
well known , but that one , I think it's off
45:46
Rainbow Bridge album , something like that , and it just
45:48
, I don't know , just love it . I think it's brilliant .
45:51
I'll band the college in a job with a
45:53
band of college , with John , not with patch . We all know why we
45:56
used to do Jimmy Hayes , jimmy Hendricks number
45:58
purple haze and I never knew the lyrics why
46:01
you should ? be was the band and start playing this . I
46:03
can't remember the beat to this day , but the band and start playing
46:05
the song and I'm in . Purple
46:08
haze are in my brain and that's anything I knew
46:10
, so I just like it's close to my phone as possible
46:12
. Then , and then I go purple haze
46:14
are in my brain , my
46:19
lips on the mic and distorted , as if it was some
46:21
sort of artistic expression . I've
46:23
got a keyboard behind me muttering , I
46:25
can learn no words .
46:28
So that's why you do it , jimmy Hendricks .
46:31
Yeah , good point Now . I just look
46:33
now . Just been a cock earlier on everyone I should be . Hendricks is one of
46:35
the greatest musicians you know , just my job
46:38
here is to be a break , you know .
46:40
I've just got a question for patch right now . This is this
46:42
is nothing to do with this . When you're playing
46:45
and do you ever get
46:47
like a brain freeze
46:49
, whatever , and you just forget the lyrics , have
46:52
you got a technique to deal with it ?
46:55
Yes , I have got a technique
46:57
. I've got the lyrics in
46:59
front of me .
47:01
Oh , you have , don't you ? Yeah , of course you do
47:03
, yeah , yeah .
47:05
Not on every song Some songs I know so
47:07
well and Ed , and ones I forget regularly .
47:09
Yeah , you get the verses
47:11
mixed up , johnny , be good ones .
47:13
I stopped the song with way and ask the audience what the
47:15
next line was . They told me we're back back into
47:17
the song .
47:17
So yeah , yeah , just need a
47:19
little bit of a mmm , but I was just wondering if there's
47:22
anything , just a little bit of a little bit
47:24
of a worse time is when I'm thinking about the
47:26
next song , yeah , and then I suddenly think
47:28
where am I on this one ?
47:29
And it's suddenly right that's when I lose it .
47:30
Yeah , okay , okay
47:32
, okay . Chaps second song , that
47:34
was it . Was
47:39
that easy rider ? Jimi Hendrix , good Good , this isn't
47:41
it . It's not two songs , no two songs . Supercision
47:43
.
47:43
So Supercision . Stevie Wonder , I thought
47:45
that was your artist . Have I lost ? Yeah ?
47:50
you completely lost it . Sorry , mate , it's the sustained , various
47:52
ongoing attacks I've had on me all night . This can
47:54
populate in me and and attack
47:56
. No , I said I don't
47:58
hesitate to poke Robo because I don't know it's dangerous
48:00
, because he genuinely does get angry . I also find it
48:02
quite funny because , like you know , we're not going to change
48:05
this just because you're in a bad mood .
48:06
But you know I'm going to start being a prick .
48:08
So , you know , it's like the snake eating his own tail
48:10
, Exactly so .
48:11
That was great mate . Thank you so much
48:13
mate .
48:14
I was really really good . Generally , we're going to
48:16
go on to the 80s . Next is do we need to have a quick I
48:18
think one of quick , very , very quick drink and show Blake
48:20
break ? Yeah , the time
48:23
is against us . Quick refill , break folks , and
48:25
then it John Bishop is a bitch
48:27
can't wait for that .
48:28
Yeah , john Patch and Johnny , please send me your
48:30
48:34
scores at five back in a sec .
48:37
Okay , robbie . Yeah , like I said , mate
48:39
, you know I love winding you up and
48:41
being an asshole , but credit where credit's due . That
48:43
was that was really really good . Thanks , John
48:45
. You're next and you've been very quiet , safer .
48:48
I'm always quite quiet .
48:51
I've heard you . In certain situations you've been very vocal
48:53
.
48:55
He's a very considered man . I
48:57
find John very considered .
48:59
John was my first ever friend in Poulsworth . Any
49:01
story Do
49:10
?
49:10
you consider us still friends .
49:14
It depends what happens next . Oh
49:17
, do you , John Are you going to mention
49:20
Van Halen ? If you
49:22
don't mention Van Halen , he's going to get upset , yeah
49:25
.
49:25
Bobby Moore used to talk about Duncan Edwards . You know Duncan Edwards who
49:27
died in the Munich air crash , right ? Bobby Moore
49:29
used to say that Duncan Edwards was the only footballer
49:32
he ever met . That made him feel inferior . Right
49:35
, perhaps you're excluded . He's your semi
49:37
pro . John is the only amateur
49:39
singer that I've known and I've sung with who's
49:41
ever made me think I can't sing at all because
49:44
of how good he is . Right , and I can
49:46
remember the ego , like mine . That's quite the
49:48
compliment Amazing singing voice , john has also
49:50
heard a lot , doesn't it Beautiful
49:52
? No , not really , because it's , you know
49:55
, because I'm happy for the fucking prick that he's
49:57
so talented . Now
49:59
, john has a beautiful singing voice .
50:01
We're still friends .
50:03
Sorry , I remember when we did something together and
50:05
you two were singing together and
50:07
you had a really nice harmony between
50:10
you , like you and Patch .
50:12
Yeah , it was Barbie , it was
50:15
amazing .
50:18
And so , yes , john , my very good , very old
50:20
friend in terms of years , not old in age , because
50:22
we're the same age , and we are now . Yeah
50:24
, the big five . A beautiful , beautiful man , you'll
50:27
go , john Eighties hitters baby .
50:29
Okay , let's do it . So I guess
50:32
I can't really start
50:34
talking about the eighties without going back
50:36
to some of what Robbo said about the seventies .
50:41
And then , even then , you can't go back to the sixties
50:43
.
50:47
Well , Johnny , you're so funny .
50:48
It's true that the decades did
50:50
overlap in musical styles , so you've
50:52
got disco from the seventies
50:54
fading out , glam rock
50:56
, which Robbo never mentioned because probably
50:58
not a highlight of the seventies , to be honest . I mentioned
51:00
Kiss .
51:02
Okay , you did , have you met him , though
51:04
.
51:06
Do you know ?
51:07
that's because they were the sixties right .
51:10
But like Rob , I was saying about the 70s
51:12
stars , there were also stars in the eighties
51:15
that were sort of coming through
51:17
from the seventies that I would argue could
51:20
you could potentially say they were even bigger in the eighties
51:22
like . Queen Yep Bowie
51:25
. The jam started in the late seventies
51:27
. The police started in the late seventies
51:29
. Big eighties , bad madness
51:32
started in the very late seventies . Another
51:34
massive eighties band . So
51:36
yeah , I think there's a lot of crossover
51:38
.
51:38
Oh .
51:39
God . But , yeah , I
51:41
mean , I was only seven year old
51:43
when the eighties started , so my
51:46
my sort of knowledge of eighties music
51:49
is more recent , rather than
51:51
what I was listening to at the time , because
51:53
when you're seven you're just listening to what your parents are playing
51:55
. So that's
51:57
probably why I remember bands like the jam , because my dad
51:59
was really into the jam in the early seventies and madness
52:01
, the whole scar sort of thing . And
52:04
it wasn't until the later eighties when I got into music
52:06
and you get to the age where you can sort of buy your own
52:08
records .
52:10
They are our price . Yeah .
52:13
HMB , your men's Woolworths
52:15
, Woolworths , yeah , I
52:18
think you can even buy records in boots once upon a time
52:20
.
52:20
Yeah , I think you could yeah .
52:23
So yeah , but the eighties had a whole
52:25
new load of sounds that weren't
52:27
there in the seventies , weren't there in the
52:30
sixties , and the reason for that
52:32
is the technology that was available in
52:34
the eighties . It was a whole new genre
52:37
of music coming through . You had the like new wave
52:39
sort of synth pop , hip hop
52:41
, carrying on from the seventies .
52:43
Exactly .
52:43
You had the new Romantics , you know like your Duran
52:46
, duran Human League . And
52:48
then you know you got your classic power ballad
52:51
from America . All the big bands , what
52:53
survivor .
52:53
And stuff it was like White Snake for
52:56
the eighties and stuff like that . Was that White Snake
52:58
? They were eighties weren't they , yeah , they were .
53:00
Rock-wise they were , but then they morphed , late eighties
53:02
, late nineties , more into like a soft poodle
53:05
rock band . An
53:07
aficionado once told me that that's what she'd be
53:09
called . Yeah .
53:11
I think as well . If you would just sort of go
53:13
up to your average girl in the street and say
53:15
, tell me the biggest mega
53:18
stars of all time in music , you'd
53:20
probably hear names like Madonna , prince
53:24
, michael Jackson
53:26
, and
53:28
you know , the list goes on from the eighties . There's some big
53:30
, big names . Oh , huge , yeah . And
53:33
Phil Collins , yeah , see , it's
53:36
funny , isn't it ? Because I actually quite like Phil these
53:38
days , but I went through a phase of really
53:40
disliking him . Yeah
53:43
, they were mega band , weren't they they ?
53:44
were .
53:45
Genesis seventies I think so .
53:47
Yeah , they started in the sixties , really .
53:49
Wow .
53:50
Like status quo . Yeah , Gabriel left them , didn't ?
53:52
he , and then yeah .
53:55
So yeah , I mean , music was changing in a big
53:58
way in the eighties . So you could
54:00
say that music was
54:02
programmed a lot more in the eighties rather than
54:04
played . So you had , like , your drum machines
54:06
, you had your sort of synthesizers
54:10
and everything was becoming a bit more
54:12
technological and a bit more complicated
54:14
to play and also it was more
54:16
affordable . So instead of just having
54:18
a few bands , like they were in the sixties
54:20
, big bands in the eighties , there
54:23
was like a massive explosion of bands like
54:25
big bands from Britain
54:27
were making it in America . You
54:29
had the advent of like MTV started up
54:31
in the eighties . So you've got all the . You
54:35
know , the music video became a thing when it wasn't
54:37
a thing before .
54:38
That's a really good point about huge in the eighties . The number
54:40
of bands is what
54:43
you're talking about is is actually a really
54:45
valid point , because in the sixties
54:47
there was a lot of bands but it was only a few that were
54:49
really popular and able to make it , and
54:52
then it sort of just kind of grew exponentially
54:55
until you've got like this massive
54:57
plethora of bands . Everybody
55:00
can produce music , and then
55:02
, yeah , I think I think that's a really really
55:05
valid point . I'm going to argue that point Go
55:07
on .
55:07
I don't agree . I don't agree with that point
55:09
. You've got okay
55:12
, we'll list them out . You've got the Beatles . You've got the Stones
55:14
. You've got the Supremes .
55:15
Oh yeah , no , but I'm not talking about just the big ones . Well
55:18
, okay , so just it was easy , it
55:20
was more accessible to create music
55:22
.
55:23
You've got the likes of Loving , spoonful
55:26
, happy Together and all songs like that . So that's
55:28
my argument . Thank you very much , but you , john Jason
55:30
Donovan , did that .
55:32
Jason Donovan did happy together , I remember in the eighties
55:35
imagine you and me .
55:37
How was Jason Donovan Prick
55:40
?
55:43
I see patches very quickly caught onto
55:45
the vibe of the show .
55:49
Sorry , John .
55:49
I think it was more accessible as well . There
55:51
was much more of a market for music in
55:53
the eighties than there was in previous decades as
55:55
well . So you know there's
55:58
a big amount of music out there . There's loads
56:00
of people buying it . You have the advent
56:02
of the cassette as well . Is
56:04
that around in the seventies ? Was that an eighties thing ?
56:07
I think it was sort of late seventies In
56:09
the eighties .
56:10
I have a distinct memory as a child of recording
56:13
the top 40 on a cassette
56:15
, trying to stop it
56:17
before someone started talking Broke
56:20
broke shut up . Yeah
56:22
, yeah , yeah , those were good times . Those were good times
56:24
, it was yeah .
56:26
Love album . Sorry , love
56:28
album . Mate I might have
56:30
asked , we know very well .
56:31
Yeah , they love tape Kev . You know Kev and
56:34
obviously you know who he is . You know Kev from Kali .
56:36
Yeah .
56:37
I remember one night he used to come around mine and we'd play championship
56:40
manager until the early hours and then he would get back
56:42
on his push bike with his little Walkman and cycle home . One
56:44
night he was so pissed he went , put one leg
56:46
over the side of the bike and carried on going
56:48
over , fell over into the road and
56:51
as he fell over into the road , his Walkman bounced open and the
56:53
tape fell out . So I'm going to help him out . And
56:55
I picked up the tape and it was a homemade mixtape
56:57
and the type of it he had written in Feltier Pen
56:59
was midnight tracks , but tracks
57:02
were spelled T-R-A-X , obviously
57:04
.
57:05
I looked at that and I went .
57:07
The fuck is this .
57:08
And he went .
57:08
It's just , you know . It's just what I like to listen to when
57:11
it's late and I'm in a mid-night track , mid-night tracks and
57:14
I never knew what was on the album , but I'd have bet there'd have been
57:16
, you know , there'd have been some . This
57:18
is what the early 19s Martin McCutcheon . Sorry
57:25
, John , carry on buddy .
57:26
Yeah , so I mean I've got a little list here of what
57:28
my sort of favourite bands were
57:30
from the 80s , before I go on to my
57:33
favourite songs .
57:33
my favourite bands I've got a bit of a list , Sure man .
57:36
These are bands that I loved . So Pet Shop
57:39
Boys , massive band , hit
57:41
after hit after hit in the
57:43
80s . Eurydmix . Annie Lennox
57:45
, fantastic singer , the classic
57:47
80s kind of sound . Madness
57:50
again loved Madness Wham
57:52
. When Wham came on the scene they were just huge
57:55
. It was like , just you know
57:57
, you had the , the , the
57:59
fan girls going crazy for these
58:01
bands in ways that sort of wasn't so I know
58:03
, with the Beatles you had the , the scenes with girls
58:06
faint all over the place , but in the 80s
58:08
these , these guys were just massive
58:10
icons and just sort of took the world
58:12
by storm . Who else have I got
58:14
the Thompson twins , another one of my favourite
58:17
80s bands . Eurasia
58:19
, another band's like , hit after hit after
58:21
hit . Love Eurasia . And then finally
58:24
, logan will love this one . New Kids
58:26
on the Block appeared in the 80s
58:28
. And myself and Logan
58:30
were massive New Kids on the Block fans .
58:32
That was . That was early 90s . Okay
58:35
, do you want to go there ? Do
58:39
you still have the videos that mean you've
58:41
filmed the past sales miming ?
58:43
to the New Kids on the Block .
58:45
No , I think they were recorded , John . You need
58:47
these . You need these .
58:48
If they're , if they're evident , Find them , John . If I close my eyes , Rob
58:51
, I'll send them . You need these . Sorry , right have you
58:53
still got them . We were talking about
58:55
you , sorry .
58:56
I think my parents have still got some old like eight millimetre
58:58
cam films . Yeah , but I
59:00
don't know if one of us is going to say you don't , but
59:03
I've got a can of Wernhery .
59:05
But yes , yes , we , yeah , we did . We used to film ourselves
59:07
like , yeah , dancing and trying to mind my long
59:10
to New Kids on the Block Wow
59:12
, yeah , we were , we
59:14
were 17 . That's
59:16
, if you said 13, . I thought that was fine
59:18
. Yes
59:22
, I met John when I was 16 , 16 , 17
59:24
.
59:24
Well , we were talented as well . We used to
59:26
sit there and set up .
59:27
Subutio . Someone was John . John
59:29
had a load of Subutio stuff and he had quite
59:31
a bit of it , so we used to sit there and we'd spend about an hour
59:34
setting up . Subutio getting like the spectators
59:36
, the stand and everything ready . We'd play for five
59:38
minutes and then we'd probably go . This is shit . Let's put the Mega
59:40
Drive on . Subutio was awesome
59:42
, man .
59:43
Never get the hang of it . Never
59:47
get never get , never get the hang of it . It's a flicky game
59:49
, flicky , yeah , flicky . Very
59:53
good .
59:55
So , yeah , go back to the 80s . Another
59:58
invention that we haven't talked about tonight yet is the
1:00:00
Sony Walkman . In the 80s , for
1:00:03
the first time ever , you could walk down the street listening
1:00:05
to music , and that's a thing
1:00:07
that you can do now , that we take for granted , with your headphones
1:00:09
. You couldn't do it back then .
1:00:11
Well , you've now got the entire back catalogue
1:00:13
of the entire world of music on your
1:00:15
phone .
1:00:16
Yeah .
1:00:17
For eight , nine months . The music .
1:00:18
even in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s music
1:00:21
was special , wasn't it ? Back in the
1:00:23
80s , it was something that was a bit of a treat . You can't just
1:00:25
like . You say you can't get up Spotify , or
1:00:27
it's the accessibility that you're
1:00:29
talking about Exactly .
1:00:31
And I think maybe , like you were talking about the 80s being like
1:00:34
there was more accessibility
1:00:36
to it , but it was more prosperous time as well
1:00:38
, wasn't it ? So it's a case of 60s
1:00:41
was just sort of well , 50s and 60s
1:00:43
was quite prosperous , but there was this
1:00:46
sort of new emerging music so the young
1:00:48
people could get to it . And then it's like the 70s
1:00:50
all seemed a little bit depressed and a bit grubby
1:00:53
and shit , wasn't it ?
1:00:54
Like in general , that whole decade Disco and stuff
1:00:56
like that , like the 70s . Listen
1:00:59
, there's so much pink Floyd or something that is dark
1:01:01
.
1:01:01
No , but I mean the period . I
1:01:03
mean the period , like the political , the financial
1:01:06
period . All that kind of it was gritty and shitty and dark
1:01:08
.
1:01:09
Exactly .
1:01:09
Exactly that , and in the 80s
1:01:11
it was kind of like a bit more well , yeah , the yuppies
1:01:13
and all that kind of shit , so everybody could get hold
1:01:16
of this stuff and there was more money around so you could buy
1:01:18
it and you could buy gear and you could do this and that . So
1:01:20
, yeah , it's a better
1:01:22
period .
1:01:23
Literally just shot your own , so you're saying the 80s
1:01:25
was the best decade for music right
1:01:28
yeah .
1:01:28
No , no , I'm saying it's more accessible and there was more money around so people
1:01:31
could could buy it themselves .
1:01:32
So get into it . Sorry , that's what Johnny
1:01:34
sitting there with his head almost in his hands . This
1:01:39
is one of the most exciting podcasts we've ever
1:01:41
done , because it's like you know . Obviously
1:01:43
you don't know , but it's almost like there's a group of prisoners
1:01:46
waiting to be executed and there's one guy
1:01:48
who sat there watching them all go before him and he knows
1:01:50
he's the last , but he got the joy of watching everybody
1:01:52
else go . He knows he's looking at me .
1:01:54
I've waited It'll
1:01:56
be alright , johnny , nineties are
1:01:59
actually . My children love the nineties
1:02:01
now . So we're getting old where
1:02:03
we are old . So therefore
1:02:06
it's you
1:02:09
change your thing and aspects
1:02:11
and everything around what people
1:02:13
think , because my children love the nineties .
1:02:15
So I'm obsessed because that was your period and that's
1:02:17
what you listen to .
1:02:18
No , no , no , no no , no , but to a certain degree
1:02:20
I didn't have any influence on that , because I listened
1:02:22
to sixies and seventies more
1:02:24
than anything .
1:02:25
Thanks , mate .
1:02:27
When I want the opinion of a cunt , I'll phone Boris Johnson
1:02:29
. Yeah , I will just say , obviously
1:02:31
we spoke about the sixties , but
1:02:34
I will just say about George Michael
1:02:36
and Wham , when I mean I was 10
1:02:38
or 11 when he was born in the sixties . And
1:02:42
when , when Wham route I was on a
1:02:44
cunt like Wham , you know I'm sort of
1:02:46
a 12 year old boy or whatever it is . You
1:02:48
listen back now and you realize what an absolute
1:02:51
talent George Michael is , and how good Wham were
1:02:53
. He was absolutely fantastic
1:02:55
. So that's one regret
1:02:57
. I didn't . I don't know , I don't think
1:02:59
I appreciate him enough at the time
1:03:01
. So in defense of the eighties
1:03:04
, although it's not as good as the sixties , then obviously
1:03:06
yeah all the seventies , oh yeah , but
1:03:08
yeah , George Michael , I'm good call on that
1:03:10
one .
1:03:11
Yeah , fuck the nineties . Fair point , is
1:03:15
it ?
1:03:15
fair to set up . What you said in your list Is that the list
1:03:17
of like the two artists that you prefer .
1:03:21
Well , I know I've got , I think I've mentioned
1:03:23
it but my two artists for me , that
1:03:25
define the eighties are Michael Jackson , and
1:03:28
not because I'm a massive Michael Jackson fan
1:03:30
, but I can't deny that
1:03:33
his songs are just out
1:03:35
of this world .
1:03:36
They're just on another level .
1:03:39
Yeah , he's a great fan nominal , something
1:03:42
like the creativity , like me thinking things like three
1:03:44
or less and stuff in the eighties and be
1:03:46
the Billie .
1:03:47
Jean number two .
1:03:49
Yeah , and number two is the Pet Shop Boys . It's
1:03:51
my personal favorite of mine . Love
1:03:54
the style of the music .
1:03:56
Interesting Pet Shop Boys because they're one of those and my mind blank
1:03:58
for a few drinks and , as I
1:04:00
think was it Robbo , certainly run and far more
1:04:02
stupid than I pretend to be . You know very good at 10
1:04:04
to be clever . Yeah , they're
1:04:06
one of those artists , that bit of the Bee Gees when you
1:04:09
, when you kind of realize how many songs
1:04:11
they actually wrote for other people , not
1:04:13
just what they did , but how many songs the Pet Shop Boys together they
1:04:16
have written a shitload of songs , they
1:04:18
, they , you know they were huge and then they didn't
1:04:20
vanish but they seem to kind of , you
1:04:22
know , sort of fade a little
1:04:24
bit . What they were doing was they consciously
1:04:26
were like , well , we're a bit fed up of the grind of fame
1:04:28
type thing . So they started to write a lot more
1:04:30
for other people and yeah , you know shitload
1:04:33
of other songs that they wrote . You might even be aware of songs
1:04:36
Bishbop . There are two songs .
1:04:38
Yeah , I've got two songs for two different reasons . So
1:04:40
my first song is Together
1:04:43
in Electric Dreams , phil Oakey
1:04:45
, giorgio Moroder Classic , and
1:04:47
I love that song because it sort of still
1:04:49
has an impact on me today . I
1:04:52
, you know , I don't know , you could
1:04:54
be having a really down day and
1:04:56
this song comes on and it's quite uplifting
1:04:58
.
1:05:01
And so , John yes , Sorry
1:05:04
this point . I was just trying to ask Robo to pour a drink
1:05:06
for Patch , but Patrick was saying he was . Ok because
1:05:08
John's so lovely . John actually went to stop and
1:05:11
get a drink for Patch . This
1:05:13
is beautiful , sorry .
1:05:14
Yeah , and my second
1:05:16
song is Ride on Time by Black Box . And
1:05:19
the reason is yeah 1989
1:05:24
, the start of the dancing
1:05:26
, and
1:05:29
I went on my first holiday without
1:05:31
my parents in 1989 . Saying
1:05:34
them all . As a 16 year old kid me
1:05:36
and my best mate went to Tenerife
1:05:38
and Ride on Time was on you
1:05:40
know , it was just
1:05:42
the song , the song of that summer
1:05:44
. Yeah , mike , yeah , yeah , fucking weirdo
1:05:47
, yeah , and yeah , we had a
1:05:49
little two piece band going on the time . We
1:05:51
learned to play it on the keyboards . Ride on Time . Every time I hear
1:05:53
it now take me back to 1989 .
1:05:55
And that is the whole point of these yeah , through
1:05:57
these songs mate , Perfect and
1:05:59
then Miles , mr Bishpo
1:06:03
.
1:06:03
Perfect , all right .
1:06:04
Again I've got to say a bar Can
1:06:06
I put his voice up ? A
1:06:11
bar . The Patch set that . I was like you
1:06:13
, fucking hell , mate . What's the point ? Let's all go home . Both
1:06:16
yourself and Robo , I feel , have actually stood
1:06:18
up and reached Super . Really
1:06:20
good , thank you , john . Very good , awesome
1:06:22
, very , very , very , very quick break , un-kelves
1:06:26
himself , from a little ball of crying and despair and
1:06:29
a quick drink refill and a quick
1:06:31
wee-wee break . Yes , I'm an old man , I
1:06:34
have a bladder the size of a pea and we'll
1:06:36
be right back with what I feel is going to
1:06:38
be both the shortest and best argument of the night
1:06:40
, which is going to be Johnny's . Ok
1:06:42
, that was a quick drinks
1:06:44
break , or not , as the listeners don't know
1:06:46
, nobody knows . Oh , and to all of our
1:06:48
friends in India Hello
1:06:52
, johnny
1:06:54
is next he's , and Johnny is the final
1:06:56
one . We have got the scores in for all the
1:06:58
other decades and I have to say everybody's
1:07:00
been very , very generous . Close , very
1:07:02
close . It's actually not that close
1:07:05
to be honest . There's the at the moment . There's someone's dead
1:07:07
, like you know , in the daylight , but the other scores
1:07:09
are pretty high .
1:07:10
Oh shit I haven't said that .
1:07:12
I Don't think I'm being well . I am a massive
1:07:14
prick , we know that , but I don't think I'm being an even more
1:07:16
massive prick . I saying I think for various reasons
1:07:19
, this is the one we've been looking for .
1:07:22
Come on .
1:07:23
Yeah , sometime . And let me make it clear
1:07:25
, right , because you know this is a show
1:07:27
, right , this is fun , this entertainment . Right , johnny's
1:07:30
one of my best friends and he wouldn't be one of my best friends
1:07:32
if he was stupid , because I don't surround myself
1:07:35
with stupid or Shallow people . However , I've
1:07:37
got a funny thing .
1:07:38
That's what's gonna .
1:07:39
Yeah , what's gonna come up next is not
1:07:41
gonna help your cause .
1:07:43
Well .
1:07:45
Johnny the 90s hit us with
1:07:47
30 seconds of information and then
1:07:49
two minutes of .
1:07:53
Well , I thought like obviously the 90s
1:07:55
. When I grew up from I was through school
1:07:57
, we're all through the 90s and
1:07:59
I thought After , well , after
1:08:01
what I've been said , I thought I'll change the dynamic and
1:08:03
say , well , from what I know , nothing's really
1:08:05
influenced the 90s . Then John chucks
1:08:08
in right on time and dance
1:08:10
music moving into the 90s . I'm going , I'll
1:08:12
shit .
1:08:13
Yeah , I think craft work in the 70s
1:08:15
might have been the , the
1:08:17
journal . I Think
1:08:19
it's not your guy be quiet .
1:08:22
I also think I did see Johnny like tapping
1:08:24
, like like a demon on his phone . What you're talking
1:08:26
, john ? I was thinking yeah .
1:08:28
I've taken lots of notes today , so thank you , brilliant
1:08:32
. And so I think with 90s and
1:08:34
I think it started with like the
1:08:36
grunge era- oh , so you've
1:08:38
got like Pearl Jam , the Vana oh
1:08:41
yeah , amazing earlier in the 90s and
1:08:43
that was when I started like realizing music . I
1:08:45
was like what , eight , nine years old , and
1:08:48
then it went into like rock and roll , which
1:08:50
they sort of Tagged as
1:08:52
like Britpop . Yeah , you had like
1:08:54
Oasis the verb radio head
1:08:56
, blur poll .
1:08:58
They were kind of like advances on from the
1:09:00
mod thing .
1:09:01
Well , rock and roll and it was . I
1:09:03
don't know why they and
1:09:05
I tagged it Britpop , but that was . I
1:09:07
remembered that , so there's more of a competition
1:09:09
element towards it , which was brilliant .
1:09:12
Go on , I know I because the political
1:09:14
establishment at the time . We're trying to take advantage
1:09:16
of it and to use that to help boost their own popularity
1:09:18
. That's what the whole Britpop thing came from . I
1:09:20
think you had that iconic image of Tony Blair Having
1:09:23
a drinks reception at number 10 . Yes
1:09:25
, inviting no Spice
1:09:28
Girls might have been there . Yeah
1:09:32
, it was a very calculated attempt to
1:09:34
. History shows that when
1:09:36
people in this country under a government feel really
1:09:38
, really good about their country and feel really
1:09:40
patriotic , that it actually makes
1:09:43
that government more popular . Okay , classic
1:09:45
example stature in the 80s was dead
1:09:47
before the Falcons . The falcons she was before
1:09:49
it started . She was fucked . She had she was gonna
1:09:51
go out . Then the falcons happened .
1:09:53
Patriotic flag waving got back in , so
1:09:55
for the last I know four decades
1:09:57
what if Van Halen do ? Apparently
1:10:02
they were Out in every
1:10:05
single decade , from the 60 , 70s
1:10:07
, 80s , now 90s .
1:10:09
The vampire hunters . Am I getting the
1:10:11
wrong ? Well , you know any van .
1:10:13
Halen is obviously he's dead now anyway
1:10:15
, moving on , and so that
1:10:19
carry on make no , it's not my go .
1:10:20
No , but I do , I'm gonna explain why Van Halen
1:10:22
light in every single day .
1:10:23
We're gonna get a taxi home later . Obviously he's
1:10:25
one the same route and we'll talk about it then , okay
1:10:28
perfect Anyway , so yeah .
1:10:29
so , moving on from , like the Britpop era , you
1:10:32
go and fight . I guess we now would call it
1:10:34
R&B , because I Eminem dr
1:10:36
Dre .
1:10:37
So all in the 90s as well . So massive
1:10:39
, massive on from the 70s hip-hop .
1:10:44
Again , I thought I'd change the dynamic and say that there
1:10:46
was no like , but
1:10:50
yeah , I guess . And
1:10:54
then you went like randomly into
1:10:56
like say , happy , hardcore like
1:10:59
. Bonkers albums come
1:11:01
out and it was all like very
1:11:03
hardcore music , Ecstasy
1:11:06
and all this sort of stuff . That was all very much . I
1:11:08
mean , I was so I was way too young for that sort of stuff
1:11:10
. But yeah you remember to get like
1:11:13
the electronic music and
1:11:15
what we call dance music and then even got like
1:11:17
People like Delirium of
1:11:19
silence , atb 9 pm , telecom , which
1:11:22
was still , I think
1:11:24
, quitea . It's
1:11:26
pivotal in the way I think dance music
1:11:28
is now how massive it is . So
1:11:31
I think the 90s is again it's pivotal
1:11:33
in what music
1:11:36
is today , because I
1:11:38
think if we go into the bands
1:11:40
that I would say that I like
1:11:42
out of two bands would be Oasis .
1:11:44
For these reasons , because there's no
1:11:46
time is why . Why waste his buddy ?
1:11:48
Well , they're timeless . So , if you look at
1:11:50
, I think they released
1:11:53
definitely maybe night night for , and
1:11:55
the songs are still being played by
1:11:58
Liam and Noel now and
1:12:00
it's 2023 and they're still getting
1:12:02
. Like Scott said earlier , his children
1:12:04
are still enjoying the music and they would
1:12:06
go to like . Even Liam Gallagher played at Nebworth
1:12:09
and he sold it out Straight
1:12:11
away for a new era of listeners
1:12:13
, and that's timeless and that's what 30
1:12:15
odd years old . Come on , Joe .
1:12:17
Would you like to see Oasis get
1:12:19
back together ? I'll tell brothers mend
1:12:21
their differences .
1:12:23
See , for me , I Know
1:12:25
that Noel was pivotal in
1:12:27
writing the music and getting the band to
1:12:29
the next stage , but for me
1:12:31
, oasis is Liam and and
1:12:35
I think Liam said on stage once he said Noel
1:12:38
can go and play music and Play
1:12:40
Oasis songs and sing Oasis songs and
1:12:43
it'll be the same Liam's like
1:12:45
. Well , my band can play the Oasis songs
1:12:47
, but no one's Liam .
1:12:49
I jumped in there but you just had to answer it . Sorry , johnny
1:12:51
. Yeah .
1:12:52
Yeah , why ? And ?
1:12:53
but you were answering it .
1:12:55
Yeah . So that's why I think my
1:12:57
yeah , I mean my , my two , my
1:13:00
, my main band would be Oasis from 90s and
1:13:02
they're still going strong and
1:13:04
if you look at , say , even
1:13:06
Now , there's
1:13:08
so many people that are influenced by Oasis . Lots
1:13:11
of rock and roll bands are still and I know it
1:13:13
is class as Britpop , but they are rock and roll . They
1:13:15
went to America and , just like cause have
1:13:18
a . It was amazing . And people go and watch
1:13:20
it , and it was just like I think they said that
1:13:22
when they did Nebworth was it 96
1:13:24
? They could have sold it
1:13:26
11 times over , as
1:13:28
in 11 days were .
1:13:31
I'll give you a bonus point . Nobody else answer . I'll
1:13:34
give you a bonus point on the voting tonight if you can
1:13:36
answer this one . During
1:13:38
that period , yep , oh , not long after
1:13:40
that period , there's one other
1:13:42
act . Who managed to
1:13:45
actually outsell them , robbie .
1:13:46
Williams yes .
1:13:48
Okay straight in there , boom shack .
1:13:50
Extra point for Johnny yeah , play .
1:13:52
I think .
1:13:52
I think , as Robbie did , three days , 82 in
1:13:55
that right .
1:13:55
Yeah , I think that's probably down to the management as
1:13:57
well . At the time no one else was . They
1:14:01
don't first and they're like well , we can easily sell
1:14:03
it out so management and .
1:14:05
He just a fat dancer from . Take that and they
1:14:07
.
1:14:09
But then again with with pop music . So
1:14:11
take that massive in the 90s spice
1:14:13
girls . They .
1:14:18
Sorry , scott , but we just had again in the microphone .
1:14:20
I'm the world on a song called born slippy . That's not really
1:14:22
pop like the spice girls .
1:14:24
Underworld . What born slippy , yeah lager
1:14:26
lager .
1:14:27
Do you remember that ?
1:14:30
Mega , mega , me that was an answer , remember , lush
1:14:33
that was trained .
1:14:34
Trains by yeah .
1:14:36
Lush and zoom that would they
1:14:39
were that used to come on in Lush and zoom that . Born
1:14:41
slippy it was one of those records where all the boys would be like
1:14:43
we .
1:14:44
Girls , we stood there going , you , we are
1:14:46
doomed if you could say that about three lines
1:14:48
with Frank Skinner .
1:14:53
Yeah , yeah
1:14:56
.
1:14:56
I think you make a really valid point regarding
1:14:58
there's almost two Sort of veins
1:15:00
running alongside each other . You've got the take
1:15:02
that and the spice girls , and then you've got the
1:15:05
oasis and elastica and
1:15:07
the blur . I mean literally running alongside
1:15:09
each other at the same time and it just sort of
1:15:11
yeah , the
1:15:15
blur versus oasis competition
1:15:17
Was what they weren't
1:15:19
against blur .
1:15:20
They weren't against burn away .
1:15:25
That's what makes you happy .
1:15:27
I think the , I'm sorry , go job now I .
1:15:29
John , I was gonna say is like I think you
1:15:31
could argue that music was still music
1:15:33
in the 90s , whereas
1:15:36
now it's much more formula
1:15:38
.
1:15:38
Yeah , exactly yeah well , I think there's a lot more money
1:15:40
as well to really produce a lot of
1:15:42
this Music as well , and it's all structured
1:15:44
. The rock
1:15:46
and roll , rock and roll isn't really rock and roll anymore
1:15:49
. They can't go out and Cause
1:15:51
hell . There's imagery because it yeah , you got Instagram
1:15:53
and they do something wrong . They probably something could happen
1:15:56
. The band might not tour again Back
1:15:58
then . Yeah , exactly , oh .
1:16:00
I will find out when our steed gets bigger and people go
1:16:02
back over your Instagram , johnny .
1:16:04
Not problem .
1:16:04
Actually I'm gonna happen now . It's not . Yeah
1:16:09
, massive
1:16:11
, massive piece of me , yeah so what
1:16:13
I was just gonna say was to make it clear that Johnny's Instagram
1:16:15
is fine .
1:16:17
Yeah , I know .
1:16:19
I think it was that , the oasis blur particular to
1:16:22
my mind I again . So I'm big music . I'm
1:16:24
just an opinionated twat . He doesn't know when to be quiet . But
1:16:26
the oasis blur thing is the last time we can
1:16:28
remember a chart Battle
1:16:31
you know , you don't hear about it anymore
1:16:33
. Anyway , we all know that streaming has changed things . That's
1:16:35
a different conversation entirely . But the oasis
1:16:38
blur thing , was it country house and roll
1:16:40
with ?
1:16:40
it . I think it was with the two records .
1:16:42
Who was gonna get to number one ? Who would win ? That's the last
1:16:44
time I can remember that the . Massive
1:16:47
, yes , right yeah , massive excitement made to six o'clock
1:16:49
news .
1:16:50
Buzz Made
1:16:52
to six o'clock news . Yeah , massive buzz
1:16:54
. John .
1:16:57
John , which one did you buy , if
1:17:00
any , or which one would you have bought country house or
1:17:02
roll with it ?
1:17:06
At the time Probably country
1:17:08
house I was I did prefer blur
1:17:10
to oasis in the 90s , but Since
1:17:13
looking back , I I can you
1:17:16
know I can say that oasis were
1:17:18
Huge as well , so I
1:17:20
just like them though .
1:17:21
I Know that's a hundred percent what I think . I
1:17:23
actually agree with that skull .
1:17:25
And then that yeah , I like
1:17:27
to , and Joe guest was in the video
1:17:29
as well , which I really patched an opinion for
1:17:31
someone who's not a retard .
1:17:33
I am . I bought Definitely
1:17:36
maybe I really loved it fantastic
1:17:38
album . And then , what
1:17:41
was there ? A second album ? What was there ?
1:17:44
Yeah .
1:17:45
I bought that and then took it back because I didn't like it . They
1:17:50
said why are you bringing it back ? And I said I don't like
1:17:52
the album . I went . We've never had someone say that .
1:17:55
Well , we'll give you money back , did they ? Yeah , yeah , yeah
1:17:57
I .
1:17:58
Came in with money back because I said they said why are
1:18:00
you bringing about ? So I don't like it . They went we've
1:18:02
never , ever had someone say that all right yeah
1:18:06
.
1:18:06
I still got a carrier bag in my lob . Let's go
1:18:08
round the table in Scott . You'll start by going table . Morning
1:18:11
glory was no , definitely , maybe was
1:18:13
the first one . Was that ? What's the story ? Morning glory , which
1:18:15
one of those two favorite the way ?
1:18:20
I , there's certain tracks of ways , is that
1:18:22
just mean something to me in certain areas
1:18:24
? So I , I wouldn't . I'd
1:18:26
pick one to certain degrees name which album
1:18:29
you prefer .
1:18:29
other two it's not fucking difficult . None , that's
1:18:31
Morning glory .
1:18:33
Thank you .
1:18:34
They say there's a lot of time , then , johnny
1:18:36
, definitely maybe .
1:18:39
Definitely maybe and I'll tell you why in a minute , Okay
1:18:42
.
1:18:42
Rob oh .
1:18:42
Hmm , what's
1:18:45
the story ? But they definitely may be the first one . What's the story
1:18:47
? Morning ?
1:18:48
I don't know them well enough to know which
1:18:50
songs were on which album , but
1:18:52
I don't I Don't dislike
1:18:54
either , oh , any of their
1:18:57
albums . To be honest , there's Sometimes
1:19:00
, I
1:19:02
do stop being such
1:19:04
a prick it's your
1:19:07
one mate purely for champagne
1:19:09
supernova , and don't look back in anger . Definitely
1:19:12
maybe thank you See , I explained
1:19:14
myself and you're still being a cunt . So
1:19:16
there you go .
1:19:19
You made it awkward for everybody . Now you know that yeah .
1:19:24
Definitely , maybe . For me every time I
1:19:27
love , definitely , maybe breath fresh air
1:19:29
really was a fantastic album . The
1:19:32
other one I kind of remember the name of morning glory .
1:19:35
Yeah .
1:19:37
That to me it just all sounded the same
1:19:39
. I've lost count . What was the winner ?
1:19:43
Is it true ?
1:19:47
Yeah , johnny , carry on , sorry . No
1:19:50
, it's two bands , yes , two artists
1:19:52
. It could be a solo .
1:19:53
Yes , I'll ace this for one , and I
1:19:56
would say the verb . So
1:19:58
, the verb were actually out
1:20:01
before Oasis
1:20:03
. No , was a huge fan , yeah , and
1:20:05
interestingly enough , me Richard Ashcroft is
1:20:07
still doing music now . Awesome , and
1:20:10
I don't know if it's true , but I
1:20:12
haven't seen anything , any headlines , but no
1:20:14
one's had a beef with the verb and
1:20:17
they all respect the verb Richard Ashcroft so
1:20:19
much that they must be amazing .
1:20:21
I'll pet Robo as you .
1:20:24
I don't know you agreed , but yeah
1:20:27
so I'd say yeah the verb and Oasis
1:20:29
again . Rich Ashcroft's still doing stuff
1:20:32
now on his own . The songs are timeless
1:20:34
again . And then
1:20:36
I would say my two songs would
1:20:39
be Slytherway favourite .
1:20:41
Okay , where that one specifically buddy .
1:20:42
Slytherway . It's just the
1:20:44
lyrics is like they're just unbelievable
1:20:46
. It gives me a good feeling when I listen to it and also
1:20:49
as well , even when Oasis
1:20:52
were playing . Sorry , when Liam
1:20:54
was playing Epworth , whenever he played Slytherway I remember
1:20:57
he played Slytherway anywhere the crowd just got wild
1:20:59
again . From back in
1:21:02
the 90s to now , just
1:21:04
awesome . And then I'll
1:21:06
say something a bit maybe controversial , but this
1:21:08
is me personally .
1:21:10
Is that the reason why we picked him , of course , of course , personally
1:21:12
, personally , yeah .
1:21:14
I think the reason I chose Delirium and Silence would
1:21:16
be my second song and that
1:21:19
was because it was a dance song and
1:21:22
I'm really into like dance house music now
1:21:24
. But they that and 80B9
1:21:26
until I come was very , very close , but I think
1:21:28
Delirium was out first . He has 97 , 80b
1:21:30
was 99 . But they still
1:21:32
use that , the basis
1:21:35
that for house music now , which I'm really
1:21:37
into .
1:21:37
So I'll say those two in my favourite . So the sampling . Delirium
1:21:40
.
1:21:41
Silence .
1:21:42
So was the band .
1:21:44
No , the DJ Delirium band .
1:21:45
Oh , so it's called Silence . I know nothing about that
1:21:48
.
1:21:48
No me neither you know the song , you
1:21:50
would know the song Patch .
1:21:51
Um Patch Faithless , Would
1:21:53
I have 90s .
1:21:54
Yeah , that was , yeah , To me amazing
1:21:56
yeah .
1:21:56
Yeah so that's it .
1:21:58
That's all I'm going to say .
1:22:00
Yeah .
1:22:01
Radiohead Okay , computer .
1:22:03
Yeah , okay , computer , yeah , karma
1:22:05
, police was .
1:22:06
You were close to picking radiohead .
1:22:07
Yeah .
1:22:08
So I was close to picking radiohead
1:22:10
and Karma Police . Yeah , I
1:22:13
think OK Computer came out in 97
1:22:15
maybe and Karma Police
1:22:17
was such a massive song
1:22:19
in like I think 98 . And I remember
1:22:22
it because I was 14
1:22:24
, I think then and I used to hang around
1:22:26
with my cousin who was older and then we'd always play
1:22:28
radiohead and Karma Police , and that just reminds me of that . So
1:22:30
it gave me a good feeling in that song . But I've already given a
1:22:32
good feeling inside of it , so I'm going with Delirium
1:22:34
Silence , what I feel now with House Music Awesome
1:22:36
reasons I just just uh Radiohead
1:22:39
Creep oh yeah , you have
1:22:41
you have never , ever in your life heard
1:22:43
a version of Creep like Bishop
1:22:46
does .
1:22:46
I've been a bit . We've been to quite a few karaoke over over the
1:22:48
years . Being John Well , we spent a lot of time standing
1:22:50
around your piano in your house how your parents didn't
1:22:53
kick the fuck out of me anyway , uh
1:22:55
, where we'd stand and sing together when we're younger . But the
1:22:57
the version of Creep that John does on
1:22:59
a parachute . It is phenomenal . That's
1:23:02
a brave joy , yeah , and
1:23:04
he , he like the change between the high notes
1:23:06
and the loaner and the emotion behind it and
1:23:08
all the stuff on it . It is just phenomenal . Anyway
1:23:11
, scott , you've been waiting to say something . Sorry , it'd be great
1:23:13
. Song jump .
1:23:14
No , to be honest , it was just uh , that was a
1:23:16
creep reminds me of my first day college
1:23:18
, when I sat there I didn't know anyone and
1:23:21
someone started .
1:23:23
he said listen to this band called your first day
1:23:25
yeah , First day of college
1:23:27
. So I was like listen to this band .
1:23:29
And I thought , wow , that was took
1:23:31
me to a whole new .
1:23:33
And then I started to make new friends better friends
1:23:35
, so John has met you for the first time
1:23:37
tonight and he said that creep is what people
1:23:39
associate with you , that's actually
1:23:42
great .
1:23:42
I met you for an hour and I thought this is my moment
1:23:44
about , like Martin McCutcheon from the nineties
1:23:46
.
1:23:48
So we cause the very last podcast that we did
1:23:50
with you . On it you bought this is my moment by Martin
1:23:52
McCutcheon into it and then Dick
1:23:54
face here , dick face here
1:23:56
, felt compelled to sing it and it was dreadful
1:23:58
. Uh , sorry , buddy , sorry .
1:24:00
No , no , no One . I've already mentioned this . I
1:24:02
think you're all right . I think you're a creep
1:24:04
to ocean color scene .
1:24:05
I just mentioned those . All right , you've got me on that
1:24:08
patch . Okay , I just mentioned them .
1:24:09
He used to come into my restaurant every Friday
1:24:12
. He used to give him a free burger , Simon .
1:24:13
Simon Fowler from Free burger every
1:24:16
week and a free beer every week . He's
1:24:18
Simon Fowler .
1:24:18
I didn't know that it was him , and then I just ended up
1:24:21
just giving him every I don't know
1:24:23
what his name is .
1:24:23
At least he's Simon Fowler . Simon Fowler , yeah , more like
1:24:25
he came in your mouth .
1:24:26
Um , yeah , so um
1:24:29
that way .
1:24:30
That kind of makes it worse that you let him do it
1:24:32
when he wasn't fat Top . Do
1:24:35
you know ? All of my tops these days are tight . That's because
1:24:37
I'm fat , even like the ones I'm supposed to
1:24:39
be , Right , I know my right shirt
1:24:41
. No , I'm not right on the pants . Um , I tell
1:24:44
you what boys I've loved this All right , you guys
1:24:46
.
1:24:46
Yeah , fantastic .
1:24:48
Yeah .
1:24:48
It's brilliant .
1:24:49
I really liked it .
1:24:50
Absolutely brilliant . Um
1:24:52
, I think , a round of applause at a night .
1:24:54
I'll just about say yeah , Johnny , I disagree
1:24:56
.
1:24:58
I think we're filling .
1:25:00
I have to say , johnny , I have been , you know , sitting there , you
1:25:02
know , trying to poke you and I and wind you up , but you
1:25:04
know , you're really gracious and funny about it . You don't
1:25:06
genuinely get the right um and make
1:25:08
everybody go . Oh , thank you
1:25:10
for that , that was great .
1:25:12
You did really well .
1:25:13
Right , let's have a quick break where
1:25:15
John can give . Uh , well , you guys can give us the scores that
1:25:17
Johnny's got and then we'll come right back
1:25:19
, wrap up the show , give up the final scores
1:25:21
. I think , johnny , you put yourself in
1:25:23
contention there , mate , perfect yeah .
1:25:25
One .
1:25:29
All right , another
1:25:32
drink break Um
1:25:34
. Rob , have you calmed down now , are you okay
1:25:37
?
1:25:37
I was , I was all good .
1:25:38
Oh yeah , you were purple , was
1:25:40
that yeah ?
1:25:42
Oh , that's , because of the sun , a bit
1:25:45
of a redhead .
1:25:47
See , that's those sunflowers . It was the
1:25:49
sunflowers .
1:25:50
Walking around a maze for two and a half hours
1:25:53
. You make it out . All right , I did make it out .
1:25:55
Yeah , yeah . Yeah , we did have to cheat a little bit , Was that under
1:25:57
two hours ?
1:25:58
Well , it was two hours to the big one , half an hour
1:26:00
for the small one . We did both of them in
1:26:02
just under one hour . No
1:26:05
, an hour and a half .
1:26:06
Did you just say you had to cheat ? Yes , we
1:26:08
did . How did you cheat what ?
1:26:09
did you .
1:26:10
We walked through . Did you have a chainsaw ?
1:26:11
You were .
1:26:13
It was like , okay , we need to be over there .
1:26:16
And we can't get through there .
1:26:18
So we're going to walk through the maze
1:26:20
. Wow , wow .
1:26:22
Just make clear . We got an email here from Mr Stains
1:26:24
who
1:26:27
wonders why we hate each other so
1:26:29
much . That you make it very , very
1:26:31
clear I love this kind of death . I
1:26:33
do like winding them up and it's not always fair . But
1:26:36
you know , love the guy to death . Scott
1:26:40
, you said you were going to be here for like
1:26:42
40 minutes an hour and go home .
1:26:44
Three hours of sleep . I'm glad you weren't .
1:26:47
Because it's always wonderful having you here , I'd like
1:26:49
to get from you some of your
1:26:51
thoughts on what you've heard . Any final things you want to say , anything
1:26:54
you want to add and if , before
1:26:56
we get to the scores , separately from the scores
1:26:58
, I'm going to put you on the spot I
1:27:01
want you to tell us which of the decades you
1:27:03
personally feel is the
1:27:05
greatest decade of music .
1:27:07
Okay , thank you very much . I've really
1:27:09
enjoyed tonight . That's hence why I stayed . I
1:27:13
thought everyone's arguments was fantastic
1:27:16
. I think we filled a little bit for
1:27:18
John , but that's
1:27:20
just a personal view , but I
1:27:22
thought everyone's arguments were superb
1:27:25
, actually superb , and it brought back a lot of memories
1:27:27
and lovely memories of certain things that you
1:27:29
don't think about to certain degree and you've got other
1:27:31
influences within that , that
1:27:33
you have personal influences
1:27:35
. But I've really
1:27:37
really enjoyed it tonight and it's lovely and I think
1:27:39
, as perhaps it's it's lovely
1:27:42
to talk about music on every level when it's so
1:27:44
personal , when it makes you
1:27:46
emotional about everything . But
1:27:49
my personal view
1:27:51
is the sixties really is smashed
1:27:54
everything out the park .
1:27:55
I think Fuck you .
1:27:56
Yeah .
1:27:58
Van Halen . They came out . Van Halen
1:28:00
was the sixties .
1:28:01
Were they yeah which band in particular
1:28:04
has gone ? Which band in particular ? Van
1:28:06
Halen , because they were in every decade .
1:28:08
To be fair , rob , that's a really good point , rob . Yeah
1:28:10
, I'm just
1:28:12
about to say that . Thanks for leading into it
1:28:14
. Buddy , I want to hear from you Two bands , two songs , if you've
1:28:17
got them if you haven't Van .
1:28:17
Halen obviously Fucking .
1:28:19
Van .
1:28:19
Halen . Have
1:28:21
you got two bands Jimi Hendrix here Songs ?
1:28:22
Don't that be from the sixties ? Just let's , let's go from all
1:28:24
time .
1:28:25
I mean Fleetwood Mac is obviously going to be one . My
1:28:27
Fleetwood Mac is my favourite band of all time .
1:28:29
And what's your favourite ? Fleetwood Mac song .
1:28:31
You Make Love and Fun .
1:28:32
I just oh yeah
1:28:34
, we've had that conversation , Scott and
1:28:37
me , Johnny and Rob .
1:28:37
I've sat there about three o'clock in the morning at Johnny's
1:28:39
and Rob was very drunk . We'd be drinking for a while and
1:28:42
I don't know who asked it , but we started talking about it what songs
1:28:44
would you want to be played at your funeral ? These are my
1:28:46
two songs and you just had them .
1:28:48
Right there I've thought about this quite a lot . Yes
1:28:50
, you Make Love and Fun . And
1:28:52
Elton John Tiny
1:28:55
Dancer .
1:28:55
This is my two songs and the wife
1:28:57
.
1:28:58
Because I'm tiny . I like dancing .
1:29:00
You're not Actually the thing is .
1:29:01
the thing is I don't like dancing unless I'm
1:29:04
smashed , and if I'm dancing , then take
1:29:06
me home . Yeah , but
1:29:09
those are my two .
1:29:11
Perfect . Yes , Mate , we're very glad that you stayed
1:29:13
. Rob . Any final thoughts from you , buddy
1:29:15
?
1:29:16
No , I thought it was great . I really liked it . I
1:29:19
like having a lot of people around the
1:29:21
table . It's great .
1:29:21
Really is fun , isn't it ? Yeah , it's great , it's
1:29:24
really good .
1:29:25
Lots of different opinions and all that
1:29:27
kind of stuff and it's really good .
1:29:29
We've had from our friend , graham , who's nicknamed I still
1:29:31
don't know why Shaggy Graham . Again
1:29:33
, I'll go back to what I said around about making me feel
1:29:35
inferior singing-wise Again , it sounds arrogant . There's
1:29:38
not a lot of people that do make me feel inferior . Intelligence-wise
1:29:41
that sounds arrogant . But I do kind
1:29:43
of think fuck me , I don't want to get into a conversation with
1:29:45
you because you'll destroy me and Graham .
1:29:46
Oh , Graham's fiercely intelligent .
1:29:48
Disgustingly intelligent , fiercely intelligent , and he wrote
1:29:50
on Facebook tonight that he thought that Abby stole
1:29:53
the show . I made something on football .
1:29:55
Oh , okay , oh , was he listening .
1:29:56
Yeah .
1:29:56
No , no , that's this one , the football one , the one I posted is that
1:29:58
I need to say about Abby . She stole the show
1:30:00
. She did really well , so it's great having other
1:30:03
people , isn't it ?
1:30:04
Indeed .
1:30:05
John . Any final thoughts from you , mr Bishbob
1:30:07
?
1:30:08
Yeah , I guess it's a little bit late now , seeing as the
1:30:10
votes have already been cast , but I'm going
1:30:12
to leave you with a little sort of analogy
1:30:14
of where I see the decades . So in
1:30:17
the 60s the seeds
1:30:19
of music were planted . Boom
1:30:21
In the 70s German
1:30:24
age the sunflower started to grow
1:30:26
. In
1:30:29
the 80s it
1:30:31
sort of reached full bloom and
1:30:33
it was magnificent and
1:30:36
then in the 90s it sort of whizzled out and died .
1:30:39
I'll leave it there .
1:30:43
I say , john and I have done each other since 2016 . And
1:30:45
you know he's always been one of my best
1:30:47
, dearest friends . We have gone through various
1:30:49
different reasons not negative ones , just life , pretty
1:30:52
long periods of not seeing each other and talking and stuff like
1:30:54
that . But every time we do see each other , it's like it was yesterday
1:30:56
and like time to time that perfectly encapsulated
1:30:59
just why I love you so much . That was absolutely
1:31:01
brilliant .
1:31:03
Well , I think John's just summed it up the
1:31:05
80s were pretentious , and that's
1:31:07
fantastic , pretentious
1:31:09
and arrogant If the 80s were a club , they'd be
1:31:11
Liz Flairs . Let's just say that .
1:31:13
I'm going to leave it at that , All right thank you very much
1:31:15
.
1:31:16
Thanks for having me on again and
1:31:20
I also know in Pat Jinsle was 16 . We've
1:31:23
got a lot closer , kind of as grown-ups didn't we , we
1:31:25
knew each other at those teenage .
1:31:26
but we hung around in different groups and you wouldn't let me
1:31:28
in your group , which is obviously you know I'm fine
1:31:30
with it , I'm fine .
1:31:32
But that is an example of why I love you so much . Thank
1:31:34
you , john , pat . Seriously , boys , we're drinking yeah
1:31:36
amazing You've been brilliant tonight . Thank you , I
1:31:40
want to have you back on the show again as soon as possible .
1:31:41
Look forward to the next one .
1:31:42
Awesome , Johnny Greenfield
1:31:44
. Pretty but vacant . Any
1:31:47
final thoughts from ? You ?
1:31:48
What do you ?
1:31:48
mean .
1:31:50
All right , I'm just not hungry at all .
1:31:53
We're in the pub early One day you need to be .
1:31:55
We're outside the pub .
1:31:57
I don't want to have a drink and like for about 10 minutes
1:31:59
he just rinsed me , Didn't you think ? We said , and I'll just
1:32:01
grind it when I'm going to get you back ?
1:32:03
And I'll have this .
1:32:04
I had that line in my mind for about four hours .
1:32:06
I thought I'm going to throw that in there . Boom , has
1:32:08
it worked .
1:32:09
What did you do ? You grin at me and move
1:32:11
on . You're a fucking prick , I hate
1:32:13
you .
1:32:13
Yeah , no , no , it's that . Yeah , really good . Learned
1:32:16
a lot from you guys , enjoyed it , didn't
1:32:18
know a lot about , especially the
1:32:20
early decades where Way out
1:32:22
of your era , isn't it . Well
1:32:24
, I'm into music a lot Like daddy's
1:32:26
working it and it was , but I've never really
1:32:29
looked that deep into it around . I
1:32:31
think you might say that catch about what your
1:32:33
parents listen to and stuff . So you're very siloed
1:32:35
into what you listen to . So hearing a wider
1:32:37
story of it is very interesting to
1:32:40
her . And also I'm glad I went last because
1:32:42
I could take some notes and , yeah , I'm
1:32:45
glad .
1:32:45
I wasn't first . I tell you that .
1:32:48
It would have taken three minutes .
1:32:49
No , it was actually was really good . I was sitting in half
1:32:51
. For me it was like rooting for you . John is not
1:32:53
vacant , of course he's not easy .
1:32:55
Very clever guy .
1:32:56
If he wasn't , he would be one of my best friends . As
1:32:58
I would say don't surround myself with stupid people . So
1:33:00
I just try to wind him up , but he never buys , so
1:33:02
it's pointless really , but I
1:33:05
was sitting in it . I won't lie , there was a part of me kind
1:33:07
of sitting and thinking , oh please crash .
1:33:09
I was close , but you know I was
1:33:11
close , I was close . So
1:33:13
thank you guys for giving me a bit
1:33:15
of insight and to tell this is going to be yeah
1:33:17
, but you didn't . You did , it was really really good
1:33:20
.
1:33:20
He wants to hear the final scores . Yes , yeah
1:33:22
, go on it . Yeah , okay . I'm
1:33:26
not going to give the actual scores , just so I do an X factor , but I'm going to give
1:33:28
you in reverse order , in
1:33:30
tide for third place . Dead
1:33:35
end is a crime . Can somebody make a noise or like
1:33:38
a music tune ?
1:33:39
Oh , that's
1:33:42
as good as drumrolls I can do . It
1:33:44
was good , it was really good , third
1:33:46
place .
1:33:46
tide for third place . It is Johnny
1:33:49
and Robbo . Oh , well
1:33:51
done , I'll take that .
1:33:53
It was really tempted to deliberately score Robbo lower .
1:33:57
So he'd finished last , but I think that class
1:33:59
might have become a permanent fixture in my face if I'd
1:34:02
have done that . So in second
1:34:04
place in second place , and
1:34:06
this won't come as a surprise , really , given
1:34:08
what an amazing job that
1:34:11
the first place person did In second place
1:34:13
. It is John Bishop . However
1:34:19
, what I will say is the gap was only two points
1:34:21
. So it was very close
1:34:23
but the winner , and I don't think you know
1:34:25
it was a great way to kick off the
1:34:27
show because made everyone shit their pants . Thoroughly
1:34:32
deserved patch and the sixties
1:34:34
. Thank you very much
1:34:36
. Beautiful
1:34:39
. I don't think anybody got any final thoughts before we
1:34:41
click off for the Well , no kernel for
1:34:43
the music we hear today
1:34:45
, so it's hardly any surprise . I
1:34:47
actually thought , Robbo , you made a really fair point . Obviously , I
1:34:50
was trying to throw you earlier on about how the sixties was . You know , began
1:34:52
the germination of the seventies and then , John
1:34:55
, you made a few . You picked up Ramada , you know , if
1:34:57
you look at music , I said I fuck all about music
1:34:59
. But as with many things that are nothing about , it
1:35:01
doesn't stop me .
1:35:02
Do you know what ? I think the sixties is kind of that
1:35:04
tentative kind of can
1:35:06
we do this , Can we , can we get , can we do that , Can
1:35:09
we get away with that ? And then they got away with it
1:35:11
. And then the seventies went . Yeah
1:35:14
, let's fucking go , man , it's
1:35:16
like just went mad . But
1:35:18
it's without the sixties , without
1:35:21
that sixties tentative
1:35:23
kind of dip your toe in the water it wouldn't have happened .
1:35:25
Although the sixties was first first chorus , first first chorus
1:35:27
oh it was all formulaic
1:35:30
and it always is now .
1:35:31
Jesus look at everything .
1:35:32
Jesus , it's all formulaic
1:35:35
, but it's that experimental side
1:35:37
of it that came out and
1:35:39
it started in the sixties and then it just went
1:35:41
poof in the helped .
1:35:43
The Beatles took LSD .
1:35:47
That's when they got really good .
1:35:48
Everyone did the sixties that's
1:35:51
a good point .
1:35:52
Actually , we haven't touched on that at all .
1:35:54
There was a great story about the first time they dropped LSD , and
1:35:56
I think it was with Bob Dylan , if I remember right .
1:35:58
Could it ?
1:35:58
be , it was pop .
1:36:00
It was pop , but then .
1:36:01
ah right , it was something to talk about . But the first time I did LSD
1:36:04
apparently the McCartney and Lenin
1:36:06
and Harrison in particular like fucking hell
1:36:08
, there's a whole new world being
1:36:11
opened up , you know , and they just like absolutely
1:36:13
kind of embraced it . George Harrison is fascinating
1:36:15
to me , actually , so I was dragging out a bit now , but George Harrison I
1:36:18
find the most fascinating . The Beatles because I
1:36:20
think it wasn't till was a third or fourth album he
1:36:22
didn't write a song for the album
1:36:24
.
1:36:25
Second album he actually wrote the first song
1:36:27
on patch Okay .
1:36:29
Then it was after it was about the fourth
1:36:32
or 50 , he started to actually have a bit of a musical voice
1:36:34
.
1:36:34
Yeah , he took him a while , didn't it , To kind of really
1:36:36
find his voice and find his confidence
1:36:38
there . Do you think To
1:36:41
actually speak ?
1:36:42
up ? Yeah , I would say his confidence , but also your , overshadowed
1:36:44
by Lenin and McCartney ?
1:36:45
Yeah , if you're in competition
1:36:47
with Lenin and McCartney . You're going to be a
1:36:49
little bit sheepish .
1:36:52
Stop me mate .
1:36:53
I think Lenin and McCartney gave George
1:36:56
Harrison and Ringo Starr a token song on
1:36:58
each album so they would have you know
1:37:00
credit .
1:37:02
Yeah , that's what you're talking about , isn't it ? Octopus's
1:37:04
Garden , because Ringo was that was his
1:37:06
one , wasn't it ?
1:37:07
Yeah , Right , and funny enough . My daughter's
1:37:09
one of my daughters . My daughter's second favorite
1:37:11
song my daughter Shit . My son
1:37:13
Jacob , Wow , my
1:37:16
son Jacob , his second favorite song has got my mind set on you
1:37:18
by George Harrison .
1:37:19
That's my first song and his favorite is
1:37:21
Say , say , say .
1:37:22
Johnny's been dying to say something . I knew you were telling me to shut the
1:37:24
fuck up and finish the podcast .
1:37:25
Well , no , I was just saying that I think we've got
1:37:28
a good insight .
1:37:30
Yeah , to shut the fuck up and finish the podcast .
1:37:33
Yeah , that's what that means .
1:37:34
All three of us own the company . You can be a prick to
1:37:36
me . I can't fire you . He
1:37:38
knows . That's why he threatens me . I
1:37:40
don't threaten anyone . I'm
1:37:43
scared of you .
1:37:44
I think you're always a threat .
1:37:46
Yeah exactly .
1:37:48
It's the redness around them , isn't it ?
1:37:51
That's the sunflowers .
1:37:53
Definitely was a sunflowers .
1:37:55
I tell you what , John Patch , I love you both so much . You've
1:37:57
been absolutely fucking legends on this . Thank you so much , boys
1:37:59
. Thanks for having us .
1:38:02
Thank you very much , always a pleasure .
1:38:05
Thank you for sticking around . You
1:38:07
were great . You were great , babe . Thank you .
1:38:11
And John and .
1:38:11
Robby as you saw guys , we are out , we
1:38:13
are done . That's OST down from here . We're going to take
1:38:15
a two-week break now because Johnny is off on a stag
1:38:17
do yes , stag do and we're
1:38:19
going to have a little mid-season break . But what we do have is we
1:38:21
have two episodes of season two that
1:38:24
I thought were lost , but I found Including
1:38:27
John is the co-host
1:38:30
on one of those two episodes
1:38:32
, and we also have the
1:38:34
season finale of Bollocks or Not
1:38:36
, and the winner of that episode
1:38:38
of Bollocks or Not won the entire season . So
1:38:40
keep your ears open for that , folks . We
1:38:42
are done , we're out of here . Thank you for listening , remember
1:38:45
don't be a dick .
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