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Season 3.9 - From 60s Vibrance to 90s Eclecticism: Which musical decade was best?

Season 3.9 - From 60s Vibrance to 90s Eclecticism: Which musical decade was best?

Released Wednesday, 27th September 2023
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Season 3.9 - From 60s Vibrance to 90s Eclecticism: Which musical decade was best?

Season 3.9 - From 60s Vibrance to 90s Eclecticism: Which musical decade was best?

Season 3.9 - From 60s Vibrance to 90s Eclecticism: Which musical decade was best?

Season 3.9 - From 60s Vibrance to 90s Eclecticism: Which musical decade was best?

Wednesday, 27th September 2023
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0:18

Good afternoon sunflowers . It's

0:21

been a marvelous day in the forest . How

0:24

are we all doing today ? A couple of things

0:26

, Anybody ?

0:27

else .

0:27

Anybody else . Johnny , you got the

0:29

safe yourself . Have you had a good day ?

0:32

Yeah , I mean I don't know how good yours was to talk about

0:34

sunflowers and forest , which are nowhere near any of

0:36

us . I went back

0:38

for it .

0:39

I went to a sunflower forest today . Oh well , I haven't

0:41

. You should go . It's

0:43

very good Sunflowers on Hanging Island .

0:45

Oh , ok , I didn't know that was one .

0:48

See what Robbo was trying to do there . Robbo knew

0:50

where I was going . He jumped in and

0:52

carried on talking . It's very clever , but

0:55

you know me . I'm a massive prick . I won't give up

0:58

. I'll just wait until you finish . Yeah , a couple

1:00

of things . It's not afternoon , it's dark outside .

1:02

Oh , he's doing that one now .

1:04

Do we have one , Johnny ? It's a fact .

1:06

He always said no , it's , oh , no

1:08

, actually it's eight o'clock , isn't it ?

1:13

That's one's eight . I want to

1:15

go home already . Yeah

1:17

, thanks for that brilliant introduction , robbo , not

1:19

one of your best ones , mate , I'm not going to lie . I know

1:21

you can do better . You know you can do better . Do

1:24

you want to re-record ? Do you want ?

1:25

to start again .

1:25

Sure , yeah , if I were you , you

1:29

can do it no . Ok , Anybody

1:31

else around the table seeing it ? This

1:35

is an early start . Yes , so yeah , hi

1:38

everybody . Cheers Robbo , Thanks for that . We're

1:40

here . It's me . It's me , the M-I-C of OSD

1:42

, and I'm back here for another episode of

1:44

Logan and the

1:46

. I haven't thought of one this week

1:49

. This is your chance . What

1:51

I haven't prepared .

1:53

Logan and the Masters . That's the one .

1:55

Yeah , that and also this is your chance to rinse me

1:57

. Do you want to do it again ? Jesus Christ , I'm

1:59

throwing him a softball here , just

2:01

get on with it . You're

2:04

mistaking me for your girlfriend .

2:06

What girlfriend .

2:09

OK , so yeah , Logan and the , I

2:12

genuinely I did think of one , but I've forgotten it .

2:14

Masters sounds good , doesn't it Johnny ? Yeah , we'll take that . Logan

2:17

and the Loverballs yeah

2:20

, OK , that sounds nice .

2:21

You know , we're here talking about music and

2:23

stuff that sounds like a 60s sort of band doesn't it ?

2:25

Oh yeah , logan and the Loverballs , yeah

2:27

.

2:27

So we're here with Scott , one of our little regulars

2:30

, but Scott's just still sitting there watching this

2:32

week , aren't he Say hi , scott .

2:33

Hello everyone .

2:36

That echoed about the whole room .

2:37

That's all I've got .

2:39

Yeah , scott is here , but Scott just wants to . You

2:42

know , very much like his usual Saturday night at

2:44

La Fleur's Club in Ferrum . Wants to watch Johnny

2:48

, how are you ? I'm really good . Scott's

2:51

got his head in his head though .

2:52

What's La Fleur's Club ? Anyway , I don't know .

2:55

I just made it up . I'm hoping there isn't . Imagine

2:59

if there was actually La Fleur's Club . And it could

3:01

be Sounds good .

3:02

Maybe there was once in the 60s .

3:04

Oh , I like that . Well , I don't forget he's got his finger on the

3:06

edit button , so if there is , I can remove

3:08

it . How ?

3:09

are you ? Yeah , I'm really good . How's your head ? I'm

3:12

now recovering from my bad sunburn .

3:14

Yeah , man , that was sore , I broke my own cardinal

3:16

rule Didn't wear the Factor 50 .

3:18

Honestly his head was like a Belizean beaker the other day . Look .

3:20

I was a panda .

3:21

You did . Yeah , it was funny .

3:23

I feel a bit like that today because I made sure

3:25

the kids had Factor 50 on and then forgot to put

3:28

any on myself . Always good .

3:30

Yeah , but you're not looking too bad though , You're not looking like .

3:32

I'm not looking like me either , though you know

3:34

Dave .

3:34

Yeah , and .

3:35

Robbo , hi , chaps , hi , how was everybody

3:38

? Yeah , I'm good , I've had a busy day

3:40

. I've had a very busy day . I've

3:42

been down to that place , wander around for

3:44

about 10 miles in two mazes . Brilliant

3:46

, great time .

3:47

Good , really good and it's so sunny and lovely . It

3:49

was very nice , beautiful Nice , and we've

3:51

also got two friends of the show returning

3:54

. I think Patch , this is your third

3:56

time . John is John your fourth ? Yeah , because

3:59

John's done one on his own with this . That's not been published

4:01

yet . It's going to be published in the next couple of weeks .

4:04

Oh , it's finally going to be published .

4:06

Yes , I found it . I thought I'd lost it . I'll explain the story

4:08

shortly , but yeah , so don't forget to get close

4:10

to the mic . Sorry , john . So yes , so

4:12

, patch , what's your third one ? Yeah , this is my third

4:14

yeah , and John is your fourth right . Yes , it

4:16

is Friends of the show . So , John Bishop , say hi , John

4:18

, Hello everybody .

4:20

How are you doing ?

4:22

Sit here quietly and see if we can make him uncomfortable . It's

4:25

working Awesome and

4:28

Patch , Patch Collins .

4:29

Hello everyone . You know , one of the sunflowers

4:32

out there .

4:34

What's your favorite ?

4:35

flower Left

4:37

flowers .

4:41

Very good , very good . This is where we have you on . Someone

4:43

needs to bring the humor . So we're here

4:45

this week . We're going to well , okay . So we are going to start

4:47

, aren't we ? Yes , today is old Johnny

4:50

has prepared a couple . I'm going

4:52

to quickly throw that in there . So over to Johnny . Fill

4:54

us in with your wisdom , okay .

4:57

Rather than your tiny flaccid cock .

5:02

Not hungry at all , Right , so

5:05

I've got a couple here which

5:07

I got given by my girlfriend because I was struggling to

5:09

find someone like which was good . So

5:12

the first one is tinfoil . As

5:14

you all know , I'm not a very good cook and

5:17

I didn't know , but one side is matte and the other

5:19

side shiny , Right Right . And

5:22

why apparently use the mat side

5:24

to keep the food cool ? So

5:26

say , if you're I don't know cooking

5:29

a cold sandwich and you want to wrap

5:31

it , take it for lunch .

5:32

Sorry , cooking a cold sandwich ? No , sorry , making a cold sandwich

5:34

.

5:35

He didn't say he's not very good at cooking .

5:38

So yeah , so the mat's Body parts Right

5:41

, I don't know where to go with

5:43

that one . And

5:45

anyway , the shiny side is to

5:48

keep it warm . So if you made a bacon sandwich , you

5:50

wrap it in the shiny side and

5:52

it keeps it warm .

5:53

Is it shiny side out or shiny

5:55

side inside in ?

5:56

It's okay , so it keeps the heat inside , so the mat

5:58

side in for cold , shiny side

6:00

in for hot .

6:02

Oh , okay .

6:03

Didn't know that Reflected , isn't it ? Especially

6:05

the shiny side reflects heat , yes , back

6:07

in , so it kind of keeps the heat contained . Yeah

6:10

, not bad Six out of 10 .

6:12

You can do better Okay .

6:14

So also .

6:19

I don't know what to do with cooking this week , but a saucepan .

6:21

There's a hole in the handle , and

6:24

the reason why is to stop , stop , stop , stop . I

6:27

want to ask a quick question on this one . Right

6:29

, john and patch .

6:32

What do you think the holes there ? Oh

6:35

, I think it'd be to hang it somewhere , right , john

6:37

?

6:38

Yeah , I'm going to hang it somewhere as well . I

6:40

think you probably both can need to get it .

6:46

Sorry , boys , when you speak , don't forget Come

6:48

on harmony .

6:49

Yeah , Don't be scared To hang it somewhere , Gentlemen John and patch Beautiful

6:51

.

6:53

I only said stop because that's what I thought

6:55

when we talked about it earlier

6:57

. The handle yeah . Are

7:01

they right or wrong ? Johnson you are all wrong . What it is

7:03

to hold , the wooden spoon it's to hold

7:05

wooden spoon . People

7:09

can't see you . Scott , why

7:13

are you doing a visual demonstration ? You're fucking wrong . He's doing it into

7:15

the mic . Anybody's got

7:17

a malnutrition retarded puppy out there , please

7:20

bring one to show to replace Scott

7:22

, because I think they do a better job .

7:23

Yeah , and as Scott was saying what he was trying to visualize , when you

7:25

put the wooden spoon in the hole , the remnants from the

7:28

wooden spoon drifts back into the pan , or

7:31

the wooden spoon , the wooden spoon

7:33

, the wooden spoon , the wooden spoon , the wooden spoon drifts back

7:35

into the pan .

7:37

Awesome , Somebody's thought about that haven't they

7:39

?

7:39

You rest it on an angle .

7:40

On an angle , it's an angle .

7:41

I'm with you boys .

7:43

I thought it was to hang it up earlier on .

7:45

You can use it for that as well . Yeah

7:47

, thanks , fred Cheers .

7:50

Listeners out there . Now it's D-Land . John Greenfield has given

7:52

you permission to hang up your saucepans if you want to

7:55

. You can now go to bed and sleep easy .

7:57

Or use the wooden spoon as well . He

7:59

didn't give permission for that . I've

8:02

got one final one , which is more

8:04

of a DIY one . I should

8:06

be able to explain it . When

8:08

you're hanging up a picture and it's got the string

8:11

to hang up the picture and you

8:13

put the nail in the wall ready and you're normally dancing

8:15

around trying to get the string onto

8:17

the nail , which is a bit of

8:19

a ballache , if you put a fork

8:22

into the nail with the

8:24

handle facing upwards , you

8:26

hang the string over the fork

8:28

handle and then pull the fork

8:30

out and it's hanging on the nail I like it , I like to

8:32

hang it up .

8:33

Yeah .

8:34

Very , very good .

8:34

Absolutely genius .

8:36

Yeah , very good . Thank you , johnny

8:38

, there's my 30 . I think overall , I'll say nine

8:40

out of 10 .

8:41

Oh , perfect , very good Radicals for Johnny Wow

8:43

.

8:46

Does that feel like getting a word from Daddy ? I

8:48

don't know . I saw your little face then .

8:52

I was pretty happy with that . You beamed it's Jody's

8:54

. Oh , they were . Yeah , two of them were Jody's

8:56

actually .

8:57

Jody's were nine out of 10 . Yeah , yours was three

8:59

.

8:59

Okay , I'll take that as a win . Okay , fair Right cheers

9:02

.

9:02

thank you , johnny , very , very , very

9:04

quickly , because we're going to be sitting away from politics a little bit

9:07

, but I just got to put this out there because it made me chuckle . Oh yeah

9:09

. Well , what's happening tomorrow ?

9:11

This is , oh , this is the arrest isn't it .

9:13

Yeah , yeah , yeah .

9:14

So it is . Oh no , Cole , which one is it ? It could

9:16

be Georgia , it could be this , it could be anywhere . Cross

9:18

knows it doesn't matter .

9:18

It doesn't matter .

9:19

Yeah , but he's put well the thing I was

9:21

looking at .

9:22

Sorry , clarify oh

9:24

Trumpage , sorry .

9:25

Trumpage yeah , he's got to be . He's going to

9:27

be arrested tomorrow . But the thing I was looking

9:29

at is that he's he's

9:31

got to go to court for the

9:33

second defamation against his sexual

9:36

assault rape victim and

9:39

he's putting in no defense , so

9:41

he's just going to lose . Well , he's lost already

9:43

, he's got no defense , so . But

9:45

he's actually putting in no defense and he's taking that

9:47

as a position of power , so it's like

9:51

okay . So you just don't give a shit

9:53

anymore , do you ? He's just like , yeah , fuck everyone

9:55

, I'm just going to turn

9:57

up and do whatever I want . I think .

9:59

I think fuck everyone . That's the problem in the first place

10:01

.

10:01

That was the problem . That's why I was in this trouble .

10:03

Fuck everyone .

10:04

Yeah , yeah , yeah , fuck you like a dog , fuck

10:06

you like a dog . Grab a bag of pussy , good bag . Yeah , so we'll

10:08

see so

10:10

tomorrow . Yeah , apparently he said that he will happily surrender for arrest tomorrow . It'd

10:13

be funny if they did drag him kicking and screaming . There's

10:15

a thing like watching the other night

10:18

. I think it's completely central . I think there's a sketch where Trump

10:20

and Pence go to a kindergarten for

10:22

the day and basically

10:24

the Trump's getting involved in all the little

10:27

paint your fingers or do all that kind of stuff and

10:30

at the end of it , when Pence is like Donald , we've got to go Donald's like

10:32

no , I don't want to go , I want to stay

10:34

, I'm not going . And he starts having some massive hissy

10:36

fit . I remember how I used to be at like two o'clock

10:38

in Kingsley's oh , yeah , yeah , and

10:42

this had pulled Sonic rough in which case couldn't

10:45

wait to leave .

10:46

Have you seen him ? I've seen him like that . That's

10:48

what she was doing . Have

10:50

you seen when he was actually at a kindergarten

10:53

and like he turned up and walked into the classroom

10:55

and there was a couple of kids went absolutely

10:58

apopleptic Shit

11:00

, the bed completely got screaming

11:03

at him and trying to get away ?

11:08

You should just went watching your home video , Scott .

11:10

Yes .

11:11

Like you know , turning up in a bunch of kids , start screaming and crying

11:13

.

11:14

That's not my school .

11:21

I'll edit that bit out . Don't worry , Am

11:24

I fuck Right ? It's enough of that Very

11:27

pretty patch on . Have you been ? You've been good guys Good .

11:29

Yeah , I've been very well yeah .

11:32

Yeah , I've been pretty good mate . Thank you very much .

11:34

Join the sunshine .

11:35

I hope I've been looking at the sunflowers

11:37

.

11:38

Oh , very nice . Has the amazing

11:40

other water ? Oh sorry , patch gone .

11:42

I'm going to go and get the sunflowers because I went to the National Gallery

11:44

on Sunday .

11:46

So what was that ?

11:47

for that was who

11:49

, paul McCartney .

11:50

Paul McCartney , oh yeah .

11:51

Man cool , Was it good ?

11:53

Yes , it was Very good , paul McCartney painted the sunflowers

11:55

Get lost .

11:57

Patch Cheese boy .

11:58

Knock him out In

12:03

30 years . He's had it coming for a while

12:05

. Right , let's get cracking . So thanks Johnny , thanks everybody , great

12:07

to have you here . Guys , seriously , you always love having me on the show , and

12:10

also Rob and Johnny couldn't do this without

12:12

you . As I always say , scott , fuck

12:15

off . You're just

12:17

literally the definition of a Klingon . Well

12:19

, that's mean Right now , yes

12:22

, no , no , we love

12:24

Scott . He makes everything better , yes , patch .

12:25

Sorry , it's the first time I've met Scott . I think he's all

12:27

right . He is lovely . No , he's lovely yeah

12:30

.

12:32

There's only one person that's in type of podcast . He's a massive asshole

12:34

, and that's me . Everyone else is quite lovely , but I'm

12:36

aware of this because of my level of self-awareness . So

12:38

I try to make myself feel better and not give

12:40

into the crushing despair of how much of a content

12:42

I am by making everybody else try to make me

12:44

feel as shit as I am . Is it working ?

12:47

Okay .

12:49

I don't know where that came from .

12:50

It's all concern . I didn't expect . I've got to be honest . Psychology 101

12:52

. You hate yourself .

12:54

You make everybody else hate themselves too . You

12:57

suddenly don't feel alone . We don't hate ourselves . I

13:00

know that dickhead . That's the whole point I'm

13:02

trying to , but it's just not working . No , not at all

13:04

, not hung . We

13:07

like you too , scott . I like you , scott .

13:09

I like you , Scott .

13:11

I like you , especially when you're naked and restrained

13:13

.

13:13

I'm afraid Naked and afraid .

13:16

I'm leaving that being Hang on After

13:18

some of the one lines you can't come out with . You can't suddenly play

13:20

Mr Ooh , that's too far I know

13:23

, hold on .

13:25

I'm not even supposed to play , just

13:28

leave me out of this , okay

13:30

.

13:30

No , you sat in the hall . You could have sat on the sofa .

13:32

I've been well out of it , but you chose to sit there .

13:34

So it's like sitting in the front row of you

13:36

know SeaWorld and then complaining when you get wet or

13:39

going on a date with your mum . Right

13:41

, let's go .

13:43

So what we're going to talk about this week , and

13:45

then complaining when you get wet .

13:49

That was the joke . Oh , for fuck's sake .

13:51

Right , this is great , so yes , so

13:54

, so , so .

13:54

So we're here to talk about the greatest Decadie music ever . Each of

13:56

the boys here today have chosen a different deck . Well

13:58

, some of them did , the others got one more default , basically

14:01

. Paul Robbo , I mentioned it and everybody

14:03

jumped on a decade and Robbo said um well , which one

14:05

side I went ? There's only the 70s left right

14:08

. Sorry , but I got from that . It's still pretty good , pretty

14:10

good . So what we're going to do is each of the boys is going to go around and talk individually

14:12

. We're going to do it in decade order and

14:14

they're going to talk for as long as they want , really , about why they

14:16

think that particular decade is the greatest

14:18

decade for music ever made . And

14:21

then they're going to talk about two artists . It

14:23

could be one band , one solo artist , two solo artists

14:25

, two bands , whatever , um , that particularly

14:28

for them stand out in that decade , and why . And

14:30

then two songs that stand out for them in that decade . Now

14:32

, the important thing here the listeners , um

14:34

, especially those you would be in them . Jing Hao impressed

14:37

, no

14:39

idea what that means Uh . Important for listeners

14:41

to remember is that this is not about the best setting artists . The

14:43

most famous artist is the opinion of um

14:46

, who they feel meant the most to them , who resonated

14:49

, who still to this day sticks in their mind and

14:51

still has meaning . And the same with the

14:53

songs . At the end of each round

14:55

, um , they're encouraged people to ask

14:57

questions , if they won after the

15:00

initial um debate , about

15:02

why they think that decade is the best . So before we go

15:04

into the artists and the songs , there'll

15:06

be a chance for people to ask questions and , you know

15:08

, say stuff , and at the end of that round

15:10

, each person will secretly send me a WhatsApp score

15:12

out of five as to how persuasive they

15:14

thought that person's argument was . So nobody

15:16

knows who's scoring and what they're doing . I will not

15:18

be taking part in the scoring at all , um , because

15:21

I'm going to be honest here , rob , I would end up on

15:23

minus points .

15:23

He would lose Just to annoy .

15:26

And then , at the very end , when it was out of go , we will

15:28

announce the scores and announce who

15:30

the winner of this debate was . So , again , a departure

15:33

from OSD , something we've not done before , but

15:35

we're looking forward to it , right .

15:36

Yeah , I think indeed , yeah all

15:38

good , all right .

15:40

So we're going to start with the sixties , which is patch

15:42

. So patch is going to talk about the sixties and um

15:44

, yes , this is your moment . Let's

15:47

just try to put the microphone down . To patch is scrotum , um

15:51

, I tried .

15:53

That was no microphone .

15:55

Uh , so patch , take it away please . May I talk to us

15:57

about the sixties .

15:59

Yeah , I will talk to you about the sixties . Um

16:01

, been told sort of you know , come up

16:03

with some things to

16:05

talk about for about 15 minutes about the sixties

16:07

. To be quite honest , I

16:10

don't need to . There's one word influence

16:12

by two words

16:15

beginning . There's quite a lot of words . All

16:17

right , I'm going to talk about quite a lot then . So we probably have about 15

16:19

minutes .

16:20

Nobody expects the Spanish .

16:22

Um , yeah , I've got the sixties . Uh

16:24

, for those of people that do know me , uh

16:27

, playing a band , I play guitar . What

16:30

got me to play guitar , what got me

16:32

to , um , get into music

16:34

, really was the sixties , and

16:37

the reason behind it

16:39

is variety , massive , massive

16:41

amount of variety . Um

16:44

, you go back to the early sixties

16:46

, you just think it's sort of , uh , it's , it's a bit naff

16:48

at that sort of time , but it wasn't . You had Bob Dylan

16:50

coming through with the folk music movement

16:52

. You had the girl groups , the do what groups

16:54

, um , the Sharals

16:57

, those type of groups . Then

16:59

, of course , after that you had the Beatles

17:01

massive seismic

17:04

moment . Yeah , who , one

17:06

at one .

17:06

This yeah , whatever happened to him .

17:10

Well , I need a band . Wings could have been .

17:14

Hey , this is why I love you so much . Um yeah .

17:19

So they ? They came on the scene and music

17:21

changed , in my opinion and

17:23

quite a few

17:25

other people's opinions , um

17:27

, but at that time , were

17:29

they the group

17:31

that everyone thought they turned out to be ? No

17:33

, they weren't . They were in a mix of other groups

17:36

that come out . That time you had the Mersey beat senior

17:38

Jerry and the pacemaker Dave Clark

17:40

five in the UK that were just

17:42

as big as the Beatles when they came out . They were

17:44

, they were on a um a pile with them , but

17:48

then you had Motown that came alongside

17:50

from that as well .

17:52

So I'm really interested in it

17:54

. Why do you think the Beatles did then break free from

17:56

that pack ? And I didn't know , the day of club five

17:59

was big in this country , what ? Why do you think

18:01

the Beatles managed to break free from their name ? What

18:03

else would become this global phenomenon ?

18:05

I think , when you listen , in my

18:07

opinion , and in my opinion

18:09

, when you listen to their

18:12

music and that period

18:15

63 , 64 , the

18:17

beat , the beat combos of guitars

18:19

and drums , um , but

18:21

then after that they just went into different

18:24

gear and , um , when

18:26

you look there , there uh , recording period

18:28

, and this isn't about the Beatles , this is a

18:30

60s question .

18:32

But , they were the .

18:33

Beatles . I mean from October

18:35

62 to January 1970

18:38

, that was their time that

18:40

they were together as a professional

18:42

recording group and in

18:44

such , in such a short space of time

18:46

, they had such a massive catalog

18:49

of different types of music . Now

18:51

, whereas the Jerry and the pacemakers and

18:53

the day club five , they stuck

18:56

in that beat combo , they didn't really

18:58

change , they didn't they didn't

19:00

evolve Okay , so sorry about that , I sideline you

19:02

. So in my opinion

19:04

that's why . That's why they moved

19:07

away and then other groups sort of joined . The

19:09

stones are probably similar . You talk about the stones

19:11

. They came out in 64 , a little bit later 63

19:14

, 64 . And again

19:16

they changed . I mean they started off as a blues combo

19:18

, you know , and um , from then on that

19:21

they've evolved into that and

19:23

um , so for me the 60s

19:25

isn't just a Beatles and the stones , there's

19:27

everything else that goes with it . You

19:30

know , you started off with with guitar groups

19:32

and you started off with with that sort of thing , but

19:34

then just , it just rose so

19:36

rapidly and then moving forward

19:39

, and now every one of you tonight is going to be talking

19:41

about a decade . There's no way

19:43

that any decade cannot be influenced by

19:45

the 60s , absolutely not . And um

19:47

, so for me it's

19:50

not just the fact that it was first because the fifties

19:52

would , they had rock and roll , but then you had

19:54

so much different stuff coming into the sixties

19:56

. You had festivals , you had

19:58

Woodstock , you had the Isle of Wight festival , so

20:01

you had the birth of that , you had the birth of Stadium

20:03

Rock , um , all

20:05

the things that sort of grew later on , I mean when

20:07

the Beatles and all

20:09

those groups in the early sort of sixties they were

20:11

playing with PA systems that were

20:13

probably worse than what I play in my band .

20:15

What was it ? The animals were slashing the speakers in

20:18

their amps . Kinks , the kinks to get

20:20

a distorted sound .

20:21

Yeah .

20:22

Um , and , and they literally just had the

20:24

band PA that they were playing in sort of the small clubs with . They

20:27

were then going in playing stadiums with playing sort of Shade

20:29

Stadium and places like that with it . Um

20:31

, and then they realized that that had to evolve

20:33

and the other groups coming through . You had

20:36

the birth of synthesizers , really

20:38

the first sort of late sixties . You had the first synthesizer

20:40

, hammond organ or something . Oh

20:42

yeah , yeah , hammond organ , but you had the actual sym

20:44

. the MOOG synthesizer came in in sort

20:46

of the late sixties Sort of .

20:49

That's what you'd have to stop . You keep talking to it , you finish

20:51

yeah , but um , I'm going to

20:53

put money down that Johnny is shitting himself right

20:55

now . This , this

20:57

is very intelligent , very erigite . Um

21:01

, you've clearly put a lot of thought into this . I'm

21:03

fairly confident John's sitting there going . All I

21:05

had was I liked it . Look

21:09

at his lip . I'm right , aren't I ?

21:12

Yeah , yeah , I know I'm sitting there

21:14

thinking oh shit .

21:16

Beautiful . Sorry , mate , no , no , no , it's

21:18

really good .

21:19

That's why .

21:19

I'm sitting there silent thinking Get his brain

21:22

working . Now I'm going down

21:24

to that . He's just to be away from you . I couldn't

21:26

even see you because Scott's in the way , but I'm thinking

21:28

, oh , he's a little face right now he's thinking fucking

21:30

hell . I was just going to talk about , like you know , oasis

21:33

.

21:35

Sorry , pat , this is really really good stuff

21:37

, mate , no so , yes , you had the different instrumentation

21:40

, you had the different types of music and

21:43

, as I say , I mean , if you look at the Beatles career

21:45

as a

21:48

stamp for the 60s , so starting

21:50

with Love Me Do and finishing with Let it Be and

21:53

everything in between that they did , that

21:55

to me , is why the 60s is

21:58

such an important part

22:00

of the whole of music , and

22:02

I really do think it's influenced every

22:04

single piece of music that's come after it with

22:06

regards to how

22:09

things are done , and you

22:11

can trace everything back through to the 60s

22:13

, really , in my opinion . So

22:17

that's why it's a variety , it's the influence

22:19

. You've got heavy metal coming through . You had the

22:21

likes of Steppenwolf , you had the likes

22:23

of Led Zeppelin , so

22:25

everything that followed on from that and

22:28

, as I say , you had effectively

22:30

synthesized the music being born

22:32

. It was all there .

22:34

It was all there in the 60s . Lost points for not mentioning Van

22:36

Halen . Then , when you saw that music coming through , no

22:38

, they went in the 60s . They were 63 , weren't they

22:40

?

22:41

That's why I think of going to an extra point there . Ever nice

22:44

, yeah , look at .

22:46

Churky over there . I thought he was going to get

22:48

one over on me and he just sat there and

22:51

blurted out a complete lie .

23:00

I don't think so . It's a calm , oh , oh , oh

23:02

, oh , oh , oh .

23:03

Oh , oh , oh , oh

23:05

, it's perfect , it's brilliant , I just

23:08

so hope they might pick that up , Scott .

23:11

So well , will you sort of get over it now if

23:13

I don't mention Van Halen , because it's been mentioned

23:15

already by you in the wrong decade .

23:17

Yes .

23:18

Yeah , yeah .

23:20

To be honest , if you were hanging on a cliff edge by your fingertips

23:22

, I would stamp on them just because it would be funny to

23:25

see how angry you get . You know

23:27

you'll fucks whatever . Yeah , so fair

23:29

point . Yeah , maybe pricking myself yet again , you

23:32

know . But hey , I don't mind , I could take it happens . Here's the joke

23:34

. Perhaps that was brilliant

23:36

that was really really interesting . Thank you , no problem at all

23:38

. Guys , anybody

23:40

else like John , anybody else like why , would it

23:43

say ? It sounds to me like what you're saying is it was as much to do

23:45

with the evolution of music and the

23:47

many different styles that you

23:50

live the room . There are many different

23:52

styles that it's

23:56

like a petulant teacher . Yes , I've been embarrassed

23:58

, I have to try and get back some cool points .

24:01

By acting like a petulant teacher . Yes , will

24:05

they ever call you ?

24:05

love that role play . You

24:08

love that role play . Naughty school by Johnny

24:10

and headmaster Andy .

24:12

What have you been watching on the internet Too much

24:14

.

24:18

You know , the other good thing about this is that there was wasn't really laughing

24:20

because we were on the tables and he take a breath and he was like where the

24:22

fuck is he going with this ? I'm uncomfortable

24:25

. Edit button . Edit button

24:27

. Yeah , so it's much to do with how

24:29

much music evolved . Like you know , I

24:31

don't know . I mean I'm not getting involved in the debate

24:33

per se tonight because I know fuck all about music . You

24:35

know that's just demonstrated by the van Van Halen , my

24:37

favorite band of all time . Didn't even know when they were formed . But

24:40

it seems to me like from what you're saying is that maybe 30

24:43

, 40 , 50s was a gradual kind of evolution in music . It

24:45

was an explosion in the 60s , totally Different

24:47

instruments and different sounds .

24:50

And yeah , a different . I

24:52

mean you can look at any year in the 60s and

24:54

a different type of music that coming out

24:57

every year . So , yeah , Brilliant

24:59

. And then also the other thing is longevity

25:01

really for the acts that are still going

25:03

now . They're talking today on the radio about

25:06

a Stones album being released . You

25:09

know , so Average age of 164

25:12

.

25:13

Why do we think they're still at this ? Are there any

25:15

big Stones fans around the table ?

25:18

No , not , particularly not as a band .

25:21

Fuck about what you think after You're

25:23

not even here . I was more interested

25:25

in just their lifestyle .

25:26

I think that was interesting

25:28

.

25:28

They're still how , they're all still here . Always , keep for it

25:30

.

25:32

He's pickled .

25:33

He's still breathing , but

25:36

that was kind of my point .

25:37

That was um uh why do you think they're

25:39

still doing it ? I don't need the money .

25:41

Surely you want to go home and put your feet up , retired

25:43

, just like in the own watch , like home's under the

25:45

hammer .

25:46

Which one of my wife shall I go and visit today ?

25:48

But the thing is , it's all they've ever known .

25:51

Yeah .

25:54

I also think there's a bit of thing about it to

25:56

do with like adulation , and when you've had that

25:58

sort of success on stage , you

26:01

want to just keep doing it . That's how you get your high . You're

26:03

going to keep doing it for years and years and years . They're

26:05

filling stadiums . So you know why not .

26:07

I guess I'd like our college band , hey John , jump

26:09

the gun . Exactly Legendary

26:12

band . They were in college , legendary shit . Uh

26:14

, anybody got any questions about what you said ? Anything

26:16

you want to push back on or agree with or any thoughts ? No , I think

26:18

it's absolutely right .

26:19

I think the 60s was an explosion

26:22

of , uh , of new music , and there's no doubt

26:24

about that . It was , you know . Yeah , like you

26:26

say , you had the Elvis of the 50s , um

26:28

, and and the rock and roll kind of

26:30

beginning of that From

26:33

an outsider looking in , because I'm not doing

26:35

a decade but 60s

26:37

for me , just smashed

26:39

it down .

26:40

Van Halen , they were in the 60s , they were in

26:42

the 60s .

26:44

One of the most famous bands for the 60s . Don't worry , don't

26:46

worry , johnny .

26:48

You'll , you'll , you'll get your chance to have the lowest losing

26:50

score in a bit . All right , and in my mind

26:52

, I'm the one who's going to see these .

26:53

I thought you weren't judging again Again .

26:54

I again I know Robo right , robo at the time is going to

26:56

get like minus 50 and he'll be pissed by then and he might get

26:59

it , might get a little bit unpeeped . He'll just give up with it and

27:01

then at some point in three o'clock in the morning he's going to something and go the fuck

27:03

. Did that happen ?

27:04

And I'll get an angry kid . I want to see

27:06

those scores .

27:08

Patch .

27:09

Thank you .

27:11

So next piece to artists could be bands solo

27:13

, whatever the really mean , a lot of shit that they

27:15

create at the gate . And

27:17

every week I say this does anybody else want to take

27:19

over ? Clearly not fit for the job . No

27:22

one ever puts the hand up . One day someone will , and then I'm

27:24

going to absolutely panic .

27:26

Because nobody wants to be on the main mic

27:28

. And then have you sitting there picking

27:30

off .

27:38

You boys are on fire . Tonight . I tell

27:40

you , you boys are on fire , yes

27:42

, patch . So two bands , artists

27:44

, two songs that mean something

27:46

to you . You represent a decade .

27:48

Okay , well , to me obviously it

27:50

is big no surprise to anybody , but it'd be the Beatles

27:53

and why

27:55

they mean so much to me . They

27:57

got me into playing guitar , they

28:00

influenced me into playing guitar with the Beatles

28:02

and probably

28:04

quite a few million people . And

28:06

the other artist is

28:08

Bob Dylan . For me , because

28:12

of again , you look back

28:14

at his catalogue of work and I

28:16

mean you can buy any Bob Dylan cover

28:19

album and you think this is a magnificent song

28:21

. Not necessarily his versions of the song

28:23

, but the people he's influenced as he

28:25

goes through . So they're the two artists

28:27

, the Beatles and Dylan . Have they really got Dylan

28:29

?

28:30

Scott , do you like ?

28:31

I've got to be honest . I

28:33

can understand he's a poet and I love

28:36

it , yeah . But at the same time , yeah , his

28:38

music , for me personally , is

28:40

something in nothing . But I

28:43

think I'm just a little bit

28:45

too young to hit that .

28:46

Yeah , no , I'll get that . I'll get that completely

28:49

. But , as I say , if you buy a covers album

28:51

, you'll have Absolutely .

28:53

He sounded like he was singing through a kazoo , didn't he ?

28:55

Oh , he sounded like a hoover

28:57

playing through a kazoo , but then you have other

28:59

bands like the .

29:00

Birds . I love it so much Brilliant yeah

29:03

.

29:03

The Birds massively influenced Bob Dylan . You listen

29:05

to their stuff so it's the influence of him on

29:07

other bands and artists .

29:09

Hendrix , hendrix , all along the watchtower . I think

29:11

it certainly creates where

29:14

your parents' influences were , as

29:16

well , yeah , 100% From where ? Because

29:18

my mum was very much into .

29:19

Motown and some of that , so I was very influenced with that side

29:21

. Yeah , hock , 100% . She was into

29:23

Hock .

29:24

Nobody can throw that in . She might listen to

29:26

this Wow .

29:28

She does .

29:29

You say she was into Hock , hock was into

29:31

her .

29:32

Okay , maybe not . I'm

29:34

going to scorch there . He always

29:37

set the rules of engagement tonight Never be a yeah

29:39

. I

29:41

had a really good singer then as well , even better than that

29:43

one . I forgot that .

29:44

No .

29:45

Kind of be that good then yeah

29:47

, oh no , hendrix , you mentioned Hendrix . Yeah , fuck Hendrix . If

29:51

Hendrix hadn't have died when he did , he'd be like just another guitarist

29:53

. He's not Fuck off , he's not that good . I

29:55

just thought because he died young All

29:58

.

29:58

I'm going to say is the door's been shit man ? All I'm going to say is

30:00

Jim .

30:00

Morrison was a pretentious sub-cult

30:04

leader , pathetic

30:06

pseudo-spiritualist twat

30:08

with long hair who didn't have to wear a shirt on the stage

30:10

because he died young .

30:13

What decade it was in . All I'm going

30:15

to say is based on what the you don't know who your real

30:17

parents are .

30:18

It doesn't stop you loving them .

30:19

That's true . They're out there somewhere

30:22

.

30:22

I bet they're Welsh . That's gosh .

30:24

Was that fine .

30:28

Do you want ?

30:28

to share that with the class ? No , no it's fine .

30:30

I did try , I

30:33

did try , but you wouldn't show that teacher base

30:35

.

30:35

What the hell have you been ?

30:36

watching .

30:37

Patch two songs .

30:39

Did you want to make your point , Andy ? It was just Sorry .

30:42

What I was going to say was at the beginning of this

30:44

sort of session , logan said I don't know

30:46

anything about music , and I think he's just proved it .

30:54

I also thought he wasn't going

30:56

to give his own opinion .

30:59

That's never going to happen . We all know , Logan

31:01

don't we .

31:04

That's a good show , isn't it

31:06

? Two songs . This guy just kicked me

31:08

up and down as if to say fuck off . I

31:11

meant emotionally Same

31:14

thing . Yes , yeah , you're

31:16

right , sorry boys . Yeah , sorry , sorry , sorry , sorry , robert , you're trying to make a point

31:18

I didn't notice . I apologize , mate Patched

31:21

two songs .

31:21

Two songs . We've already mentioned them

31:24

and one of my favorite

31:26

songs of all time is Bother Stones . I say

31:28

I don't particularly like them as a band

31:30

now , but some of their music and

31:32

Paint it Black for

31:34

me , very good . If I'm summing up the 60s

31:36

, that to me sums up everything .

31:38

It takes in Vietnam and everything doesn't it .

31:40

Yeah .

31:40

Why . It's just everything about

31:42

it . It's

31:45

just for me . It's that mid-60s

31:47

period For me , 65 , 66

31:50

, my favorite two sort of period of

31:52

the 60s , and that one's smack

31:54

bang in the middle of it . It just sums

31:56

up everything for me . I don't know , it's just emotive

31:58

and probably because I watched Torra

32:00

Duty , Absolutely Cool

32:06

. And second song , which is a bit

32:08

of a strange one but it's not as well , is

32:10

Steppenwolf Born to Be Wild

32:12

. Hey , nice , Because when you

32:14

hear it you just think , yeah , here we

32:16

go .

32:17

So recognizable , isn't it ?

32:18

Yeah , and you sing along to it , you shout

32:20

along to it , you have your windows down if

32:22

you're driving and if you're on

32:28

a motorbike , we're not that sums up the 60s .

32:30

Awesome mate , thanks mate . And sitting

32:32

here , dicking here , throwing in every

32:34

two seconds , despite what I said , not the

32:36

most severe opinion , really really

32:38

good . That was great . Very

32:42

, very , very quickly for viewers , listeners

32:44

, it'll be seamless . But we're going to have a quick break . So if you

32:46

want to have a cigarette can or get a drink , and

32:48

please , boys , send me your WhatsApp out of five

32:51

for . Patch's spectacular

32:53

contribution Cheers , patch

32:55

, okay

32:57

, patch , beautiful Once

32:59

more .

33:00

Thank you very much .

33:00

We just had a quick drink refill break

33:02

and toilet comfort break which , the magic

33:05

of the listeners' home , was seamless , but in reality

33:07

, because of the way the dick splash here , edits , it

33:09

probably won't be .

33:10

Yeah .

33:10

Rob your . Next year we'll talk about the 70s . I will .

33:13

Go , I am going to , so , thanks

33:15

.

33:15

Thanks , rob , really insightful , I appreciate it .

33:17

Let's move on the feeding into all of this

33:20

, the 70s stuff , because it's basically I'm

33:22

going to sort of just briefly touch

33:24

on a lot of the stuff that you already said so

33:26

, because the 60s was

33:28

the best decade for rock . There's no doubt about

33:31

it . It was the advent of it , where it really developed

33:33

, and all that kind of stuff . So , but it was

33:35

like the counterculture , wasn't it ? Sort of the 60s

33:37

counterculture . So you had Dylan , the Beatles , stones

33:40

, soul , motown and , as

33:42

you said , the festivals like Woodstock . They were

33:44

the initial blast

33:46

into the stratosphere for that , and

33:49

I love the other white stories . They're brilliant

33:51

, it was so disastrous , it was absolutely fantastic

33:53

. But

33:56

also in the 60s you had all the social struggles

33:58

, like the civil rights movement , which fed

34:00

a lot of the music , especially the likes of Dylan and

34:03

things like that . So it's like you've got all these political issues

34:05

and you've got all the civil rights and socials

34:08

, what Go on , go on .

34:09

This is great , so you're great . 70s You're

34:12

going to get to the 70s in a minute . Well , like what you were

34:14

here for .

34:20

Anyway , moving on . But

34:22

the 70s is the key

34:24

to understanding popular music in the

34:26

modern era . Oh sorry , You're

34:29

such a prick .

34:32

Like I always say to you , the only person that looks like a prick

34:34

is me .

34:36

Then it worry you but everybody knows that it

34:39

doesn't hurt to be reminded .

34:43

Anyway . So where was I ? So yeah , music

34:45

really came into its own into the 70s as

34:47

an artistic cultural movement , Because

34:50

all of the stuff that was pioneered

34:52

in the 60s was then enhanced

34:54

and improved upon and elaborated

34:57

and just experimented

35:01

with . It was a mental era

35:03

. You look at some of the stuff that went on there . It was

35:05

just nuts they did all

35:07

sorts of shit . You know , you got the

35:09

likes of Kiss with their outfits and all this kind

35:11

of stuff . It was just crazy . There was this and

35:14

Halon , or was

35:16

that a bit ? stayed 80s

35:20

. I think

35:22

they're around in the late 70s .

35:24

We're getting there .

35:24

We're getting closer . We are getting closer

35:27

, so I think with

35:31

after the Beatles split in the

35:34

60s . It kind of in my

35:36

mind it kind of sort of froze

35:38

the 60s as that sort of initial

35:41

period of exploration and

35:43

what's the word I'm looking for . I can't

35:45

think of it , but it's where they first tried

35:47

things and then in the 70s

35:50

they really went to town . So

35:52

you've got the angst

35:54

of punk . All of this leads from people like

35:56

the Beatles . There's no doubt about it . You cannot

35:58

look at a band today and you cannot go

36:01

back to somewhere like the 60s and go . I

36:03

can see an influence there .

36:05

My dad , always used to say that he

36:07

believed that without Buddy Holly there

36:12

wouldn't have been a Beatles . I know this isn't Reverend's what you're saying

36:14

, I'm just curious . As I said genuinely , I'm

36:16

just a gobb on a stick . I don't know much

36:18

about music , so I remember my dad saying , though , that

36:20

he felt Buddy Holly influenced . Well

36:22

, you're a fan of Buddy .

36:24

Holly , are you , do you agree ? Yeah , we spoke about it last

36:26

time .

36:27

I was on , we spoke about Buddy Holly and he was massive

36:29

, massive influence to me and

36:32

to all music , I think . Again you look

36:35

at short careers . I mean , he died in

36:37

21-22 , I think he was when he died . You

36:40

look at his songbook and yeah

36:42

, 100% Buddy Holly , to me Perfect

36:44

.

36:44

Sorry , I was just curious . Can we talk about the Beatles

36:47

influence ? Yeah , yeah , I agree . With my limited knowledge

36:49

, I'd say that actually you can trace that

36:51

back to Buddy Holly .

36:52

Yeah , absolutely . And all

36:54

of those people would have been influenced by people before

36:57

them and then everybody after them was influenced

37:00

by them . So it's just it's

37:02

basically taking that battle and carrying it forward

37:04

. So 60s

37:06

lead to lead into the 70s really

37:09

, you know , obviously really smoothly , and you've

37:11

got all of these influences from the 60s

37:13

that everybody loves and really enjoys . And

37:15

it's that initial experimentation

37:17

that led to the 70s where it really exploded

37:19

. So , yeah , so

37:23

they came into and a lot of the bands that you

37:25

mentioned like I'm not

37:27

going to talk about the Beatles so much because you know more about than I

37:29

do , so you probably argue the toss . But

37:31

the Stones specifically

37:34

, they were around in the 60s but their

37:36

seminal albums like Sticky Fingers , things

37:39

like that , that was in the 70s . So they really

37:41

improved their sound , they mastered

37:43

their art and then in the 70s they really

37:46

exploded . So their popularity

37:48

was massive then and it's not to

37:50

take anything away from the 60s at all

37:52

, because that's where they originated . But I

37:55

think there's a lot of bands XR

37:57

Main Street was the other one and they're

37:59

just , even today

38:02

, their albums that people pick up and play

38:04

and they will listen to end to end they

38:06

almost sort of talking about the 60s was honing

38:08

the craft , experimenting honing

38:11

the sound , the 70s was honing the craft

38:13

, experimenting , finding the sound , and the 70s

38:15

was when that kind of reached

38:17

its

38:20

fruition .

38:20

So maybe my son's who's talking about them so in the 60s were really

38:22

good . It wasn't till the 70s when they did their

38:24

most seminal albums and all that kind of stuff

38:26

.

38:26

It's like a lot of things , somebody comes out and they do something

38:28

different , and then and I'm

38:31

gonna liken this to cars and

38:33

motorbikes Obviously

38:36

, cars , you know motorbikes , things

38:38

like that they were invented a long

38:40

time before , but it wasn't until the

38:43

likes of the Japanese got hold of them and they

38:45

really started to improve things massively

38:48

, because people have like a sort of set mindset

38:50

from where they were created . So they

38:52

do things a certain way and then somebody

38:55

else outside of that gets hold

38:57

of it and goes I've got a better

38:59

idea , I'm gonna take your idea

39:01

and I'm gonna smash it out the park . And

39:03

I think that's basically the premise

39:05

of the 70s . It was this you

39:08

just look at the people that came out . You've got James Brown , marvin

39:11

Gaye , you've got Stevie Wonder . Okay , it was

39:13

Motown , but it was the 70s where

39:15

he really excelled , which was crazy

39:17

because he came , was in . I don't

39:19

know how old he is , but when he first came out , which

39:21

I assume was the 60s , he was 12 . Little

39:23

.

39:23

Stevie Wonder yeah

39:26

.

39:26

He was 12 and he was performing

39:28

and recording . It's like mental

39:31

yeah .

39:31

There's a great thing on Instagram . I think it's

39:33

you , didn't I ? Where's Dr Dre and

39:35

Kevin ?

39:36

Hart .

39:37

Yeah talk about Stevie Wonder and you cut long story short

39:39

, basically talking about like Dr Dre working with Stevie

39:41

Wonder . He's Stevie Wonder . I've found you like four in the morning and

39:44

just found you at like all kinds of odd times . It came in the heart said

39:46

well , look to be fair , stevie Wonder doesn't know what the fucking time

39:48

is , does he ?

39:52

So , yeah , sorry . So you got James

39:54

Brown , Marvin Gaye . Hip hop started till in

39:57

the 70s . That was the beginning of that Prog

39:59

Rock , zeppelin , sabbath Well , again

40:01

, zeppelin was the 60s , but their

40:03

seminal albums of 70s

40:05

, weren't they ? And then you got AC DC , queen

40:09

, the Eagles . You

40:11

can't argue with those bands , they're just huge

40:14

. They're huge .

40:15

Please say Fleetwood Mac . It's my

40:17

favorite album . Might do , I

40:20

might do .

40:20

I mentioned them , everybody

40:22

mentioned . So yeah , elton John , fleetwood Mac . So

40:25

you've got huge , huge , huge , massive

40:27

bands that people like yourself obviously

40:29

are massive fans of today . I know so

40:31

many people who are absolutely passionate

40:34

about Fleetwood Mac and I've never been a massive

40:36

fan . Although I appreciate a

40:38

lot of their songs , I've never been a huge fan

40:40

of them . Now

40:43

, the one thing that really , I

40:45

think sums up the 70s for me is disco

40:47

, and that

40:50

even resonates today , don't it ? Because if

40:52

you go to a nightclub and they

40:54

put on a Jackson 5 or they put on , I

40:56

don't know , the Isley Brothers or something like that , it's

40:58

a floorfiller . It's massive , huge , and

41:01

they are brilliant , brilliant , brilliant songs

41:03

the Motown stuff the upbeat Motown

41:05

from the 70s was just amazing . The Bee

41:08

Gees so all of these people

41:10

are all influenced by the 60s

41:12

, but they're huge in the 70s

41:14

. Silla back , yeah

41:17

, moving on . So

41:26

, I did touch on punk and hip

41:28

hop , but electronic music started in the

41:30

70s as well , with people like Kraftwerk

41:32

. They were that crazy German band

41:34

, weren't they Mental ? But that's

41:36

where . That's the kernel of

41:39

source for that whole thing . And

41:41

then I don't think there's much

41:43

argument with , like

41:46

main acts

41:49

from the 70s if you don't mention Bowie

41:52

. Bowie's massive . He took whatever

41:54

was being done by the Stones and the Beatles and

41:56

all this lot and then he just kind of went

42:00

into a mental hospital and then came out with

42:02

some weird stuff . But it's amazing

42:04

, it was brilliant and it just changed the way

42:06

that people looked at music . So

42:08

I think you

42:11

want to ask the other question about

42:13

which acts girls just about to go straight into that

42:15

, but what I was going to say

42:17

you know , I love poking the angry bear because he's so

42:19

delightful .

42:20

He's dangerous because he's genuinely gets

42:22

really angry . But I have to say that was super

42:24

. That was really really good . Thanks mate , I really , really

42:26

enjoyed listening to that . I thought no one was going to travel

42:28

patch after

42:32

that , but you know you're back in there , yeah , but

42:34

it's the 60s that leads into the 70s .

42:36

So we're a team , so we should combine our scores

42:38

.

42:41

If I haven't won , then we will . Oh yeah , fair

42:44

enough , that makes sense .

42:45

Sounds a good deal to me . I'm still a Johnny shit

42:48

himself even more .

42:50

Now John's gonna have 10 seconds again . My

42:55

mummy's fine , I have to go home . Yeah , brilliant

42:57

, robert . Thank you so much , mate , I was really good . So

43:00

yes , two , two bands or artists

43:02

and two songs . That means

43:04

something to resonate for you , or that tickly somehow

43:06

.

43:06

Yeah , I think . I think

43:09

the first one was kind of a no brainer because

43:11

he's kind of been a constant

43:13

thing , in that

43:15

his music has just been around

43:17

ever since I can remember , and it's Stevie

43:19

Wonder . Superstition

43:21

, I think , is just a

43:24

phenomenal track . It's just amazing , do

43:26

you remember ? There's that guy , john Snow , I think he was

43:28

an investigative reporter for the Z2

43:31

, john Snow's at BBC . There's a big

43:33

, really tall . There's a really tall guy

43:35

, maybe it's not John Snow .

43:37

John Snow , the tall guy , used to do news night and

43:39

all kind of stuff like that . This guy was out in the fields

43:41

night and then he moved to .

43:43

John Bishop , I can't remember , but whoever this guy

43:45

is , he wrote a book and I read this book and

43:47

he said that he was in Afghanistan or somewhere

43:49

in the in the back of beyond , in the Far

43:51

East , somewhere . And he said he was , he

43:54

was dressed I think he was dressed in a burqa because

43:57

he was trying to get somewhere to cover some story

43:59

and it was all secret and blah , blah , blah . And

44:01

he said he was walking along and there was like all these sort

44:03

of bed of intents and he was on this dirt

44:05

road and then all he could hear in the

44:07

background was and he's like I can hear

44:10

Stevie Wonder Superstition

44:14

blasting out one of these tanks

44:17

and it's like completely in the middle of nowhere .

44:20

Anyway , that's , anyway , that's fine .

44:21

Next one was the second one . Next one was really

44:24

hard because there's so many . There's so many songs

44:26

from lots of different people is like Tom Jones

44:29

is . I don't like a lot of Bowie stuff . I must

44:31

admit I'm not a massive fan of Bowie

44:33

, but there's a lot of his stuff that I do like

44:35

. But I'm going to squeeze

44:37

in . I'm going to squeeze in Hendricks , because

44:39

he's always been a big influence of mine and

44:42

he died in the 70s so he's still there .

44:45

So and then ask me honestly did you

44:47

, did you put that in before I made a tit of myself earlier

44:49

on ?

44:52

Did I ? Yeah ? Yeah , he's always been an

44:54

influence for me .

44:55

Okay , he didn't get the joke . Then that's fine

44:59

, because you meant you can knock him down . I

45:01

can't remember .

45:01

And it's half out the call back too far away .

45:04

I can't get that . Sorry about

45:06

Hendricks . Why , oh Hendrick ?

45:08

I don't know why . To be honest , it's just something

45:10

about his music . When I first heard

45:12

it I was like I really like that . It's just absolutely

45:15

blew my socks off and I thought that is

45:17

great .

45:18

I really like that . That's the whole point . This is what . If it

45:20

resonates for you , Okay and songwise

45:22

songwise from Hendricks is just

45:24

so many .

45:29

There's one that I really like and it's easy

45:32

rider because I just like the way it

45:34

sort of fall you know , just

45:36

falls out of his guitar is brilliant patches

45:38

nodding safely in the cream , and I think it's

45:40

a , it's one of his most well

45:42

known ones . There's hundreds of his songs that are really

45:44

well known , but that one , I think it's off

45:46

Rainbow Bridge album , something like that , and it just

45:48

, I don't know , just love it . I think it's brilliant .

45:51

I'll band the college in a job with a

45:53

band of college , with John , not with patch . We all know why we

45:56

used to do Jimmy Hayes , jimmy Hendricks number

45:58

purple haze and I never knew the lyrics why

46:01

you should ? be was the band and start playing this . I

46:03

can't remember the beat to this day , but the band and start playing

46:05

the song and I'm in . Purple

46:08

haze are in my brain and that's anything I knew

46:10

, so I just like it's close to my phone as possible

46:12

. Then , and then I go purple haze

46:14

are in my brain , my

46:19

lips on the mic and distorted , as if it was some

46:21

sort of artistic expression . I've

46:23

got a keyboard behind me muttering , I

46:25

can learn no words .

46:28

So that's why you do it , jimmy Hendricks .

46:31

Yeah , good point Now . I just look

46:33

now . Just been a cock earlier on everyone I should be . Hendricks is one of

46:35

the greatest musicians you know , just my job

46:38

here is to be a break , you know .

46:40

I've just got a question for patch right now . This is this

46:42

is nothing to do with this . When you're playing

46:45

and do you ever get

46:47

like a brain freeze

46:49

, whatever , and you just forget the lyrics , have

46:52

you got a technique to deal with it ?

46:55

Yes , I have got a technique

46:57

. I've got the lyrics in

46:59

front of me .

47:01

Oh , you have , don't you ? Yeah , of course you do

47:03

, yeah , yeah .

47:05

Not on every song Some songs I know so

47:07

well and Ed , and ones I forget regularly .

47:09

Yeah , you get the verses

47:11

mixed up , johnny , be good ones .

47:13

I stopped the song with way and ask the audience what the

47:15

next line was . They told me we're back back into

47:17

the song .

47:17

So yeah , yeah , just need a

47:19

little bit of a mmm , but I was just wondering if there's

47:22

anything , just a little bit of a little bit

47:24

of a worse time is when I'm thinking about the

47:26

next song , yeah , and then I suddenly think

47:28

where am I on this one ?

47:29

And it's suddenly right that's when I lose it .

47:30

Yeah , okay , okay

47:32

, okay . Chaps second song , that

47:34

was it . Was

47:39

that easy rider ? Jimi Hendrix , good Good , this isn't

47:41

it . It's not two songs , no two songs . Supercision

47:43

.

47:43

So Supercision . Stevie Wonder , I thought

47:45

that was your artist . Have I lost ? Yeah ?

47:50

you completely lost it . Sorry , mate , it's the sustained , various

47:52

ongoing attacks I've had on me all night . This can

47:54

populate in me and and attack

47:56

. No , I said I don't

47:58

hesitate to poke Robo because I don't know it's dangerous

48:00

, because he genuinely does get angry . I also find it

48:02

quite funny because , like you know , we're not going to change

48:05

this just because you're in a bad mood .

48:06

But you know I'm going to start being a prick .

48:08

So , you know , it's like the snake eating his own tail

48:10

, Exactly so .

48:11

That was great mate . Thank you so much

48:13

mate .

48:14

I was really really good . Generally , we're going to

48:16

go on to the 80s . Next is do we need to have a quick I

48:18

think one of quick , very , very quick drink and show Blake

48:20

break ? Yeah , the time

48:23

is against us . Quick refill , break folks , and

48:25

then it John Bishop is a bitch

48:27

can't wait for that .

48:28

Yeah , john Patch and Johnny , please send me your

48:30

WhatsApp

48:34

scores at five back in a sec .

48:37

Okay , robbie . Yeah , like I said , mate

48:39

, you know I love winding you up and

48:41

being an asshole , but credit where credit's due . That

48:43

was that was really really good . Thanks , John

48:45

. You're next and you've been very quiet , safer .

48:48

I'm always quite quiet .

48:51

I've heard you . In certain situations you've been very vocal

48:53

.

48:55

He's a very considered man . I

48:57

find John very considered .

48:59

John was my first ever friend in Poulsworth . Any

49:01

story Do

49:10

?

49:10

you consider us still friends .

49:14

It depends what happens next . Oh

49:17

, do you , John Are you going to mention

49:20

Van Halen ? If you

49:22

don't mention Van Halen , he's going to get upset , yeah

49:25

.

49:25

Bobby Moore used to talk about Duncan Edwards . You know Duncan Edwards who

49:27

died in the Munich air crash , right ? Bobby Moore

49:29

used to say that Duncan Edwards was the only footballer

49:32

he ever met . That made him feel inferior . Right

49:35

, perhaps you're excluded . He's your semi

49:37

pro . John is the only amateur

49:39

singer that I've known and I've sung with who's

49:41

ever made me think I can't sing at all because

49:44

of how good he is . Right , and I can

49:46

remember the ego , like mine . That's quite the

49:48

compliment Amazing singing voice , john has also

49:50

heard a lot , doesn't it Beautiful

49:52

? No , not really , because it's , you know

49:55

, because I'm happy for the fucking prick that he's

49:57

so talented . Now

49:59

, john has a beautiful singing voice .

50:01

We're still friends .

50:03

Sorry , I remember when we did something together and

50:05

you two were singing together and

50:07

you had a really nice harmony between

50:10

you , like you and Patch .

50:12

Yeah , it was Barbie , it was

50:15

amazing .

50:18

And so , yes , john , my very good , very old

50:20

friend in terms of years , not old in age , because

50:22

we're the same age , and we are now . Yeah

50:24

, the big five . A beautiful , beautiful man , you'll

50:27

go , john Eighties hitters baby .

50:29

Okay , let's do it . So I guess

50:32

I can't really start

50:34

talking about the eighties without going back

50:36

to some of what Robbo said about the seventies .

50:41

And then , even then , you can't go back to the sixties

50:43

.

50:47

Well , Johnny , you're so funny .

50:48

It's true that the decades did

50:50

overlap in musical styles , so you've

50:52

got disco from the seventies

50:54

fading out , glam rock

50:56

, which Robbo never mentioned because probably

50:58

not a highlight of the seventies , to be honest . I mentioned

51:00

Kiss .

51:02

Okay , you did , have you met him , though

51:04

.

51:06

Do you know ?

51:07

that's because they were the sixties right .

51:10

But like Rob , I was saying about the 70s

51:12

stars , there were also stars in the eighties

51:15

that were sort of coming through

51:17

from the seventies that I would argue could

51:20

you could potentially say they were even bigger in the eighties

51:22

like . Queen Yep Bowie

51:25

. The jam started in the late seventies

51:27

. The police started in the late seventies

51:29

. Big eighties , bad madness

51:32

started in the very late seventies . Another

51:34

massive eighties band . So

51:36

yeah , I think there's a lot of crossover

51:38

.

51:38

Oh .

51:39

God . But , yeah , I

51:41

mean , I was only seven year old

51:43

when the eighties started , so my

51:46

my sort of knowledge of eighties music

51:49

is more recent , rather than

51:51

what I was listening to at the time , because

51:53

when you're seven you're just listening to what your parents are playing

51:55

. So that's

51:57

probably why I remember bands like the jam , because my dad

51:59

was really into the jam in the early seventies and madness

52:01

, the whole scar sort of thing . And

52:04

it wasn't until the later eighties when I got into music

52:06

and you get to the age where you can sort of buy your own

52:08

records .

52:10

They are our price . Yeah .

52:13

HMB , your men's Woolworths

52:15

, Woolworths , yeah , I

52:18

think you can even buy records in boots once upon a time

52:20

.

52:20

Yeah , I think you could yeah .

52:23

So yeah , but the eighties had a whole

52:25

new load of sounds that weren't

52:27

there in the seventies , weren't there in the

52:30

sixties , and the reason for that

52:32

is the technology that was available in

52:34

the eighties . It was a whole new genre

52:37

of music coming through . You had the like new wave

52:39

sort of synth pop , hip hop

52:41

, carrying on from the seventies .

52:43

Exactly .

52:43

You had the new Romantics , you know like your Duran

52:46

, duran Human League . And

52:48

then you know you got your classic power ballad

52:51

from America . All the big bands , what

52:53

survivor .

52:53

And stuff it was like White Snake for

52:56

the eighties and stuff like that . Was that White Snake

52:58

? They were eighties weren't they , yeah , they were .

53:00

Rock-wise they were , but then they morphed , late eighties

53:02

, late nineties , more into like a soft poodle

53:05

rock band . An

53:07

aficionado once told me that that's what she'd be

53:09

called . Yeah .

53:11

I think as well . If you would just sort of go

53:13

up to your average girl in the street and say

53:15

, tell me the biggest mega

53:18

stars of all time in music , you'd

53:20

probably hear names like Madonna , prince

53:24

, michael Jackson

53:26

, and

53:28

you know , the list goes on from the eighties . There's some big

53:30

, big names . Oh , huge , yeah . And

53:33

Phil Collins , yeah , see , it's

53:36

funny , isn't it ? Because I actually quite like Phil these

53:38

days , but I went through a phase of really

53:40

disliking him . Yeah

53:43

, they were mega band , weren't they they ?

53:44

were .

53:45

Genesis seventies I think so .

53:47

Yeah , they started in the sixties , really .

53:49

Wow .

53:50

Like status quo . Yeah , Gabriel left them , didn't ?

53:52

he , and then yeah .

53:55

So yeah , I mean , music was changing in a big

53:58

way in the eighties . So you could

54:00

say that music was

54:02

programmed a lot more in the eighties rather than

54:04

played . So you had , like , your drum machines

54:06

, you had your sort of synthesizers

54:10

and everything was becoming a bit more

54:12

technological and a bit more complicated

54:14

to play and also it was more

54:16

affordable . So instead of just having

54:18

a few bands , like they were in the sixties

54:20

, big bands in the eighties , there

54:23

was like a massive explosion of bands like

54:25

big bands from Britain

54:27

were making it in America . You

54:29

had the advent of like MTV started up

54:31

in the eighties . So you've got all the . You

54:35

know , the music video became a thing when it wasn't

54:37

a thing before .

54:38

That's a really good point about huge in the eighties . The number

54:40

of bands is what

54:43

you're talking about is is actually a really

54:45

valid point , because in the sixties

54:47

there was a lot of bands but it was only a few that were

54:49

really popular and able to make it , and

54:52

then it sort of just kind of grew exponentially

54:55

until you've got like this massive

54:57

plethora of bands . Everybody

55:00

can produce music , and then

55:02

, yeah , I think I think that's a really really

55:05

valid point . I'm going to argue that point Go

55:07

on .

55:07

I don't agree . I don't agree with that point

55:09

. You've got okay

55:12

, we'll list them out . You've got the Beatles . You've got the Stones

55:14

. You've got the Supremes .

55:15

Oh yeah , no , but I'm not talking about just the big ones . Well

55:18

, okay , so just it was easy , it

55:20

was more accessible to create music

55:22

.

55:23

You've got the likes of Loving , spoonful

55:26

, happy Together and all songs like that . So that's

55:28

my argument . Thank you very much , but you , john Jason

55:30

Donovan , did that .

55:32

Jason Donovan did happy together , I remember in the eighties

55:35

imagine you and me .

55:37

How was Jason Donovan Prick

55:40

?

55:43

I see patches very quickly caught onto

55:45

the vibe of the show .

55:49

Sorry , John .

55:49

I think it was more accessible as well . There

55:51

was much more of a market for music in

55:53

the eighties than there was in previous decades as

55:55

well . So you know there's

55:58

a big amount of music out there . There's loads

56:00

of people buying it . You have the advent

56:02

of the cassette as well . Is

56:04

that around in the seventies ? Was that an eighties thing ?

56:07

I think it was sort of late seventies In

56:09

the eighties .

56:10

I have a distinct memory as a child of recording

56:13

the top 40 on a cassette

56:15

, trying to stop it

56:17

before someone started talking Broke

56:20

broke shut up . Yeah

56:22

, yeah , yeah , those were good times . Those were good times

56:24

, it was yeah .

56:26

Love album . Sorry , love

56:28

album . Mate I might have

56:30

asked , we know very well .

56:31

Yeah , they love tape Kev . You know Kev and

56:34

obviously you know who he is . You know Kev from Kali .

56:36

Yeah .

56:37

I remember one night he used to come around mine and we'd play championship

56:40

manager until the early hours and then he would get back

56:42

on his push bike with his little Walkman and cycle home . One

56:44

night he was so pissed he went , put one leg

56:46

over the side of the bike and carried on going

56:48

over , fell over into the road and

56:51

as he fell over into the road , his Walkman bounced open and the

56:53

tape fell out . So I'm going to help him out . And

56:55

I picked up the tape and it was a homemade mixtape

56:57

and the type of it he had written in Feltier Pen

56:59

was midnight tracks , but tracks

57:02

were spelled T-R-A-X , obviously

57:04

.

57:05

I looked at that and I went .

57:07

The fuck is this .

57:08

And he went .

57:08

It's just , you know . It's just what I like to listen to when

57:11

it's late and I'm in a mid-night track , mid-night tracks and

57:14

I never knew what was on the album , but I'd have bet there'd have been

57:16

, you know , there'd have been some . This

57:18

is what the early 19s Martin McCutcheon . Sorry

57:25

, John , carry on buddy .

57:26

Yeah , so I mean I've got a little list here of what

57:28

my sort of favourite bands were

57:30

from the 80s , before I go on to my

57:33

favourite songs .

57:33

my favourite bands I've got a bit of a list , Sure man .

57:36

These are bands that I loved . So Pet Shop

57:39

Boys , massive band , hit

57:41

after hit after hit in the

57:43

80s . Eurydmix . Annie Lennox

57:45

, fantastic singer , the classic

57:47

80s kind of sound . Madness

57:50

again loved Madness Wham

57:52

. When Wham came on the scene they were just huge

57:55

. It was like , just you know

57:57

, you had the , the , the

57:59

fan girls going crazy for these

58:01

bands in ways that sort of wasn't so I know

58:03

, with the Beatles you had the , the scenes with girls

58:06

faint all over the place , but in the 80s

58:08

these , these guys were just massive

58:10

icons and just sort of took the world

58:12

by storm . Who else have I got

58:14

the Thompson twins , another one of my favourite

58:17

80s bands . Eurasia

58:19

, another band's like , hit after hit after

58:21

hit . Love Eurasia . And then finally

58:24

, logan will love this one . New Kids

58:26

on the Block appeared in the 80s

58:28

. And myself and Logan

58:30

were massive New Kids on the Block fans .

58:32

That was . That was early 90s . Okay

58:35

, do you want to go there ? Do

58:39

you still have the videos that mean you've

58:41

filmed the past sales miming ?

58:43

to the New Kids on the Block .

58:45

No , I think they were recorded , John . You need

58:47

these . You need these .

58:48

If they're , if they're evident , Find them , John . If I close my eyes , Rob

58:51

, I'll send them . You need these . Sorry , right have you

58:53

still got them . We were talking about

58:55

you , sorry .

58:56

I think my parents have still got some old like eight millimetre

58:58

cam films . Yeah , but I

59:00

don't know if one of us is going to say you don't , but

59:03

I've got a can of Wernhery .

59:05

But yes , yes , we , yeah , we did . We used to film ourselves

59:07

like , yeah , dancing and trying to mind my long

59:10

to New Kids on the Block Wow

59:12

, yeah , we were , we

59:14

were 17 . That's

59:16

, if you said 13, . I thought that was fine

59:18

. Yes

59:22

, I met John when I was 16 , 16 , 17

59:24

.

59:24

Well , we were talented as well . We used to

59:26

sit there and set up .

59:27

Subutio . Someone was John . John

59:29

had a load of Subutio stuff and he had quite

59:31

a bit of it , so we used to sit there and we'd spend about an hour

59:34

setting up . Subutio getting like the spectators

59:36

, the stand and everything ready . We'd play for five

59:38

minutes and then we'd probably go . This is shit . Let's put the Mega

59:40

Drive on . Subutio was awesome

59:42

, man .

59:43

Never get the hang of it . Never

59:47

get never get , never get the hang of it . It's a flicky game

59:49

, flicky , yeah , flicky . Very

59:53

good .

59:55

So , yeah , go back to the 80s . Another

59:58

invention that we haven't talked about tonight yet is the

1:00:00

Sony Walkman . In the 80s , for

1:00:03

the first time ever , you could walk down the street listening

1:00:05

to music , and that's a thing

1:00:07

that you can do now , that we take for granted , with your headphones

1:00:09

. You couldn't do it back then .

1:00:11

Well , you've now got the entire back catalogue

1:00:13

of the entire world of music on your

1:00:15

phone .

1:00:16

Yeah .

1:00:17

For eight , nine months . The music .

1:00:18

even in the 60s and the 70s and the 80s music

1:00:21

was special , wasn't it ? Back in the

1:00:23

80s , it was something that was a bit of a treat . You can't just

1:00:25

like . You say you can't get up Spotify , or

1:00:27

it's the accessibility that you're

1:00:29

talking about Exactly .

1:00:31

And I think maybe , like you were talking about the 80s being like

1:00:34

there was more accessibility

1:00:36

to it , but it was more prosperous time as well

1:00:38

, wasn't it ? So it's a case of 60s

1:00:41

was just sort of well , 50s and 60s

1:00:43

was quite prosperous , but there was this

1:00:46

sort of new emerging music so the young

1:00:48

people could get to it . And then it's like the 70s

1:00:50

all seemed a little bit depressed and a bit grubby

1:00:53

and shit , wasn't it ?

1:00:54

Like in general , that whole decade Disco and stuff

1:00:56

like that , like the 70s . Listen

1:00:59

, there's so much pink Floyd or something that is dark

1:01:01

.

1:01:01

No , but I mean the period . I

1:01:03

mean the period , like the political , the financial

1:01:06

period . All that kind of it was gritty and shitty and dark

1:01:08

.

1:01:09

Exactly .

1:01:09

Exactly that , and in the 80s

1:01:11

it was kind of like a bit more well , yeah , the yuppies

1:01:13

and all that kind of shit , so everybody could get hold

1:01:16

of this stuff and there was more money around so you could buy

1:01:18

it and you could buy gear and you could do this and that . So

1:01:20

, yeah , it's a better

1:01:22

period .

1:01:23

Literally just shot your own , so you're saying the 80s

1:01:25

was the best decade for music right

1:01:28

yeah .

1:01:28

No , no , I'm saying it's more accessible and there was more money around so people

1:01:31

could could buy it themselves .

1:01:32

So get into it . Sorry , that's what Johnny

1:01:34

sitting there with his head almost in his hands . This

1:01:39

is one of the most exciting podcasts we've ever

1:01:41

done , because it's like you know . Obviously

1:01:43

you don't know , but it's almost like there's a group of prisoners

1:01:46

waiting to be executed and there's one guy

1:01:48

who sat there watching them all go before him and he knows

1:01:50

he's the last , but he got the joy of watching everybody

1:01:52

else go . He knows he's looking at me .

1:01:54

I've waited It'll

1:01:56

be alright , johnny , nineties are

1:01:59

actually . My children love the nineties

1:02:01

now . So we're getting old where

1:02:03

we are old . So therefore

1:02:06

it's you

1:02:09

change your thing and aspects

1:02:11

and everything around what people

1:02:13

think , because my children love the nineties .

1:02:15

So I'm obsessed because that was your period and that's

1:02:17

what you listen to .

1:02:18

No , no , no , no no , no , but to a certain degree

1:02:20

I didn't have any influence on that , because I listened

1:02:22

to sixies and seventies more

1:02:24

than anything .

1:02:25

Thanks , mate .

1:02:27

When I want the opinion of a cunt , I'll phone Boris Johnson

1:02:29

. Yeah , I will just say , obviously

1:02:31

we spoke about the sixties , but

1:02:34

I will just say about George Michael

1:02:36

and Wham , when I mean I was 10

1:02:38

or 11 when he was born in the sixties . And

1:02:42

when , when Wham route I was on a

1:02:44

cunt like Wham , you know I'm sort of

1:02:46

a 12 year old boy or whatever it is . You

1:02:48

listen back now and you realize what an absolute

1:02:51

talent George Michael is , and how good Wham were

1:02:53

. He was absolutely fantastic

1:02:55

. So that's one regret

1:02:57

. I didn't . I don't know , I don't think

1:02:59

I appreciate him enough at the time

1:03:01

. So in defense of the eighties

1:03:04

, although it's not as good as the sixties , then obviously

1:03:06

yeah all the seventies , oh yeah , but

1:03:08

yeah , George Michael , I'm good call on that

1:03:10

one .

1:03:11

Yeah , fuck the nineties . Fair point , is

1:03:15

it ?

1:03:15

fair to set up . What you said in your list Is that the list

1:03:17

of like the two artists that you prefer .

1:03:21

Well , I know I've got , I think I've mentioned

1:03:23

it but my two artists for me , that

1:03:25

define the eighties are Michael Jackson , and

1:03:28

not because I'm a massive Michael Jackson fan

1:03:30

, but I can't deny that

1:03:33

his songs are just out

1:03:35

of this world .

1:03:36

They're just on another level .

1:03:39

Yeah , he's a great fan nominal , something

1:03:42

like the creativity , like me thinking things like three

1:03:44

or less and stuff in the eighties and be

1:03:46

the Billie .

1:03:47

Jean number two .

1:03:49

Yeah , and number two is the Pet Shop Boys . It's

1:03:51

my personal favorite of mine . Love

1:03:54

the style of the music .

1:03:56

Interesting Pet Shop Boys because they're one of those and my mind blank

1:03:58

for a few drinks and , as I

1:04:00

think was it Robbo , certainly run and far more

1:04:02

stupid than I pretend to be . You know very good at 10

1:04:04

to be clever . Yeah , they're

1:04:06

one of those artists , that bit of the Bee Gees when you

1:04:09

, when you kind of realize how many songs

1:04:11

they actually wrote for other people , not

1:04:13

just what they did , but how many songs the Pet Shop Boys together they

1:04:16

have written a shitload of songs , they

1:04:18

, they , you know they were huge and then they didn't

1:04:20

vanish but they seem to kind of , you

1:04:22

know , sort of fade a little

1:04:24

bit . What they were doing was they consciously

1:04:26

were like , well , we're a bit fed up of the grind of fame

1:04:28

type thing . So they started to write a lot more

1:04:30

for other people and yeah , you know shitload

1:04:33

of other songs that they wrote . You might even be aware of songs

1:04:36

Bishbop . There are two songs .

1:04:38

Yeah , I've got two songs for two different reasons . So

1:04:40

my first song is Together

1:04:43

in Electric Dreams , phil Oakey

1:04:45

, giorgio Moroder Classic , and

1:04:47

I love that song because it sort of still

1:04:49

has an impact on me today . I

1:04:52

, you know , I don't know , you could

1:04:54

be having a really down day and

1:04:56

this song comes on and it's quite uplifting

1:04:58

.

1:05:01

And so , John yes , Sorry

1:05:04

this point . I was just trying to ask Robo to pour a drink

1:05:06

for Patch , but Patrick was saying he was . Ok because

1:05:08

John's so lovely . John actually went to stop and

1:05:11

get a drink for Patch . This

1:05:13

is beautiful , sorry .

1:05:14

Yeah , and my second

1:05:16

song is Ride on Time by Black Box . And

1:05:19

the reason is yeah 1989

1:05:24

, the start of the dancing

1:05:26

, and

1:05:29

I went on my first holiday without

1:05:31

my parents in 1989 . Saying

1:05:34

them all . As a 16 year old kid me

1:05:36

and my best mate went to Tenerife

1:05:38

and Ride on Time was on you

1:05:40

know , it was just

1:05:42

the song , the song of that summer

1:05:44

. Yeah , mike , yeah , yeah , fucking weirdo

1:05:47

, yeah , and yeah , we had a

1:05:49

little two piece band going on the time . We

1:05:51

learned to play it on the keyboards . Ride on Time . Every time I hear

1:05:53

it now take me back to 1989 .

1:05:55

And that is the whole point of these yeah , through

1:05:57

these songs mate , Perfect and

1:05:59

then Miles , mr Bishpo

1:06:03

.

1:06:03

Perfect , all right .

1:06:04

Again I've got to say a bar Can

1:06:06

I put his voice up ? A

1:06:11

bar . The Patch set that . I was like you

1:06:13

, fucking hell , mate . What's the point ? Let's all go home . Both

1:06:16

yourself and Robo , I feel , have actually stood

1:06:18

up and reached Super . Really

1:06:20

good , thank you , john . Very good , awesome

1:06:22

, very , very , very , very quick break , un-kelves

1:06:26

himself , from a little ball of crying and despair and

1:06:29

a quick drink refill and a quick

1:06:31

wee-wee break . Yes , I'm an old man , I

1:06:34

have a bladder the size of a pea and we'll

1:06:36

be right back with what I feel is going to

1:06:38

be both the shortest and best argument of the night

1:06:40

, which is going to be Johnny's . Ok

1:06:42

, that was a quick drinks

1:06:44

break , or not , as the listeners don't know

1:06:46

, nobody knows . Oh , and to all of our

1:06:48

friends in India Hello

1:06:52

, johnny

1:06:54

is next he's , and Johnny is the final

1:06:56

one . We have got the scores in for all the

1:06:58

other decades and I have to say everybody's

1:07:00

been very , very generous . Close , very

1:07:02

close . It's actually not that close

1:07:05

to be honest . There's the at the moment . There's someone's dead

1:07:07

, like you know , in the daylight , but the other scores

1:07:09

are pretty high .

1:07:10

Oh shit I haven't said that .

1:07:12

I Don't think I'm being well . I am a massive

1:07:14

prick , we know that , but I don't think I'm being an even more

1:07:16

massive prick . I saying I think for various reasons

1:07:19

, this is the one we've been looking for .

1:07:22

Come on .

1:07:23

Yeah , sometime . And let me make it clear

1:07:25

, right , because you know this is a show

1:07:27

, right , this is fun , this entertainment . Right , johnny's

1:07:30

one of my best friends and he wouldn't be one of my best friends

1:07:32

if he was stupid , because I don't surround myself

1:07:35

with stupid or Shallow people . However , I've

1:07:37

got a funny thing .

1:07:38

That's what's gonna .

1:07:39

Yeah , what's gonna come up next is not

1:07:41

gonna help your cause .

1:07:43

Well .

1:07:45

Johnny the 90s hit us with

1:07:47

30 seconds of information and then

1:07:49

two minutes of .

1:07:53

Well , I thought like obviously the 90s

1:07:55

. When I grew up from I was through school

1:07:57

, we're all through the 90s and

1:07:59

I thought After , well , after

1:08:01

what I've been said , I thought I'll change the dynamic and

1:08:03

say , well , from what I know , nothing's really

1:08:05

influenced the 90s . Then John chucks

1:08:08

in right on time and dance

1:08:10

music moving into the 90s . I'm going , I'll

1:08:12

shit .

1:08:13

Yeah , I think craft work in the 70s

1:08:15

might have been the , the

1:08:17

journal . I Think

1:08:19

it's not your guy be quiet .

1:08:22

I also think I did see Johnny like tapping

1:08:24

, like like a demon on his phone . What you're talking

1:08:26

, john ? I was thinking yeah .

1:08:28

I've taken lots of notes today , so thank you , brilliant

1:08:32

. And so I think with 90s and

1:08:34

I think it started with like the

1:08:36

grunge era- oh , so you've

1:08:38

got like Pearl Jam , the Vana oh

1:08:41

yeah , amazing earlier in the 90s and

1:08:43

that was when I started like realizing music . I

1:08:45

was like what , eight , nine years old , and

1:08:48

then it went into like rock and roll , which

1:08:50

they sort of Tagged as

1:08:52

like Britpop . Yeah , you had like

1:08:54

Oasis the verb radio head

1:08:56

, blur poll .

1:08:58

They were kind of like advances on from the

1:09:00

mod thing .

1:09:01

Well , rock and roll and it was . I

1:09:03

don't know why they and

1:09:05

I tagged it Britpop , but that was . I

1:09:07

remembered that , so there's more of a competition

1:09:09

element towards it , which was brilliant .

1:09:12

Go on , I know I because the political

1:09:14

establishment at the time . We're trying to take advantage

1:09:16

of it and to use that to help boost their own popularity

1:09:18

. That's what the whole Britpop thing came from . I

1:09:20

think you had that iconic image of Tony Blair Having

1:09:23

a drinks reception at number 10 . Yes

1:09:25

, inviting no Spice

1:09:28

Girls might have been there . Yeah

1:09:32

, it was a very calculated attempt to

1:09:34

. History shows that when

1:09:36

people in this country under a government feel really

1:09:38

, really good about their country and feel really

1:09:40

patriotic , that it actually makes

1:09:43

that government more popular . Okay , classic

1:09:45

example stature in the 80s was dead

1:09:47

before the Falcons . The falcons she was before

1:09:49

it started . She was fucked . She had she was gonna

1:09:51

go out . Then the falcons happened .

1:09:53

Patriotic flag waving got back in , so

1:09:55

for the last I know four decades

1:09:57

what if Van Halen do ? Apparently

1:10:02

they were Out in every

1:10:05

single decade , from the 60 , 70s

1:10:07

, 80s , now 90s .

1:10:09

The vampire hunters . Am I getting the

1:10:11

wrong ? Well , you know any van .

1:10:13

Halen is obviously he's dead now anyway

1:10:15

, moving on , and so that

1:10:19

carry on make no , it's not my go .

1:10:20

No , but I do , I'm gonna explain why Van Halen

1:10:22

light in every single day .

1:10:23

We're gonna get a taxi home later . Obviously he's

1:10:25

one the same route and we'll talk about it then , okay

1:10:28

perfect Anyway , so yeah .

1:10:29

so , moving on from , like the Britpop era , you

1:10:32

go and fight . I guess we now would call it

1:10:34

R&B , because I Eminem dr

1:10:36

Dre .

1:10:37

So all in the 90s as well . So massive

1:10:39

, massive on from the 70s hip-hop .

1:10:44

Again , I thought I'd change the dynamic and say that there

1:10:46

was no like , but

1:10:50

yeah , I guess . And

1:10:54

then you went like randomly into

1:10:56

like say , happy , hardcore like

1:10:59

. Bonkers albums come

1:11:01

out and it was all like very

1:11:03

hardcore music , Ecstasy

1:11:06

and all this sort of stuff . That was all very much . I

1:11:08

mean , I was so I was way too young for that sort of stuff

1:11:10

. But yeah you remember to get like

1:11:13

the electronic music and

1:11:15

what we call dance music and then even got like

1:11:17

People like Delirium of

1:11:19

silence , atb 9 pm , telecom , which

1:11:22

was still , I think

1:11:24

, quitea . It's

1:11:26

pivotal in the way I think dance music

1:11:28

is now how massive it is . So

1:11:31

I think the 90s is again it's pivotal

1:11:33

in what music

1:11:36

is today , because I

1:11:38

think if we go into the bands

1:11:40

that I would say that I like

1:11:42

out of two bands would be Oasis .

1:11:44

For these reasons , because there's no

1:11:46

time is why . Why waste his buddy ?

1:11:48

Well , they're timeless . So , if you look at

1:11:50

, I think they released

1:11:53

definitely maybe night night for , and

1:11:55

the songs are still being played by

1:11:58

Liam and Noel now and

1:12:00

it's 2023 and they're still getting

1:12:02

. Like Scott said earlier , his children

1:12:04

are still enjoying the music and they would

1:12:06

go to like . Even Liam Gallagher played at Nebworth

1:12:09

and he sold it out Straight

1:12:11

away for a new era of listeners

1:12:13

, and that's timeless and that's what 30

1:12:15

odd years old . Come on , Joe .

1:12:17

Would you like to see Oasis get

1:12:19

back together ? I'll tell brothers mend

1:12:21

their differences .

1:12:23

See , for me , I Know

1:12:25

that Noel was pivotal in

1:12:27

writing the music and getting the band to

1:12:29

the next stage , but for me

1:12:31

, oasis is Liam and and

1:12:35

I think Liam said on stage once he said Noel

1:12:38

can go and play music and Play

1:12:40

Oasis songs and sing Oasis songs and

1:12:43

it'll be the same Liam's like

1:12:45

. Well , my band can play the Oasis songs

1:12:47

, but no one's Liam .

1:12:49

I jumped in there but you just had to answer it . Sorry , johnny

1:12:51

. Yeah .

1:12:52

Yeah , why ? And ?

1:12:53

but you were answering it .

1:12:55

Yeah . So that's why I think my

1:12:57

yeah , I mean my , my two , my

1:13:00

, my main band would be Oasis from 90s and

1:13:02

they're still going strong and

1:13:04

if you look at , say , even

1:13:06

Now , there's

1:13:08

so many people that are influenced by Oasis . Lots

1:13:11

of rock and roll bands are still and I know it

1:13:13

is class as Britpop , but they are rock and roll . They

1:13:15

went to America and , just like cause have

1:13:18

a . It was amazing . And people go and watch

1:13:20

it , and it was just like I think they said that

1:13:22

when they did Nebworth was it 96

1:13:24

? They could have sold it

1:13:26

11 times over , as

1:13:28

in 11 days were .

1:13:31

I'll give you a bonus point . Nobody else answer . I'll

1:13:34

give you a bonus point on the voting tonight if you can

1:13:36

answer this one . During

1:13:38

that period , yep , oh , not long after

1:13:40

that period , there's one other

1:13:42

act . Who managed to

1:13:45

actually outsell them , robbie .

1:13:46

Williams yes .

1:13:48

Okay straight in there , boom shack .

1:13:50

Extra point for Johnny yeah , play .

1:13:52

I think .

1:13:52

I think , as Robbie did , three days , 82 in

1:13:55

that right .

1:13:55

Yeah , I think that's probably down to the management as

1:13:57

well . At the time no one else was . They

1:14:01

don't first and they're like well , we can easily sell

1:14:03

it out so management and .

1:14:05

He just a fat dancer from . Take that and they

1:14:07

.

1:14:09

But then again with with pop music . So

1:14:11

take that massive in the 90s spice

1:14:13

girls . They .

1:14:18

Sorry , scott , but we just had again in the microphone .

1:14:20

I'm the world on a song called born slippy . That's not really

1:14:22

pop like the spice girls .

1:14:24

Underworld . What born slippy , yeah lager

1:14:26

lager .

1:14:27

Do you remember that ?

1:14:30

Mega , mega , me that was an answer , remember , lush

1:14:33

that was trained .

1:14:34

Trains by yeah .

1:14:36

Lush and zoom that would they

1:14:39

were that used to come on in Lush and zoom that . Born

1:14:41

slippy it was one of those records where all the boys would be like

1:14:43

we .

1:14:44

Girls , we stood there going , you , we are

1:14:46

doomed if you could say that about three lines

1:14:48

with Frank Skinner .

1:14:53

Yeah , yeah

1:14:56

.

1:14:56

I think you make a really valid point regarding

1:14:58

there's almost two Sort of veins

1:15:00

running alongside each other . You've got the take

1:15:02

that and the spice girls , and then you've got the

1:15:05

oasis and elastica and

1:15:07

the blur . I mean literally running alongside

1:15:09

each other at the same time and it just sort of

1:15:11

yeah , the

1:15:15

blur versus oasis competition

1:15:17

Was what they weren't

1:15:19

against blur .

1:15:20

They weren't against burn away .

1:15:25

That's what makes you happy .

1:15:27

I think the , I'm sorry , go job now I .

1:15:29

John , I was gonna say is like I think you

1:15:31

could argue that music was still music

1:15:33

in the 90s , whereas

1:15:36

now it's much more formula

1:15:38

.

1:15:38

Yeah , exactly yeah well , I think there's a lot more money

1:15:40

as well to really produce a lot of

1:15:42

this Music as well , and it's all structured

1:15:44

. The rock

1:15:46

and roll , rock and roll isn't really rock and roll anymore

1:15:49

. They can't go out and Cause

1:15:51

hell . There's imagery because it yeah , you got Instagram

1:15:53

and they do something wrong . They probably something could happen

1:15:56

. The band might not tour again Back

1:15:58

then . Yeah , exactly , oh .

1:16:00

I will find out when our steed gets bigger and people go

1:16:02

back over your Instagram , johnny .

1:16:04

Not problem .

1:16:04

Actually I'm gonna happen now . It's not . Yeah

1:16:09

, massive

1:16:11

, massive piece of me , yeah so what

1:16:13

I was just gonna say was to make it clear that Johnny's Instagram

1:16:15

is fine .

1:16:17

Yeah , I know .

1:16:19

I think it was that , the oasis blur particular to

1:16:22

my mind I again . So I'm big music . I'm

1:16:24

just an opinionated twat . He doesn't know when to be quiet . But

1:16:26

the oasis blur thing is the last time we can

1:16:28

remember a chart Battle

1:16:31

you know , you don't hear about it anymore

1:16:33

. Anyway , we all know that streaming has changed things . That's

1:16:35

a different conversation entirely . But the oasis

1:16:38

blur thing , was it country house and roll

1:16:40

with ?

1:16:40

it . I think it was with the two records .

1:16:42

Who was gonna get to number one ? Who would win ? That's the last

1:16:44

time I can remember that the . Massive

1:16:47

, yes , right yeah , massive excitement made to six o'clock

1:16:49

news .

1:16:50

Buzz Made

1:16:52

to six o'clock news . Yeah , massive buzz

1:16:54

. John .

1:16:57

John , which one did you buy , if

1:17:00

any , or which one would you have bought country house or

1:17:02

roll with it ?

1:17:06

At the time Probably country

1:17:08

house I was I did prefer blur

1:17:10

to oasis in the 90s , but Since

1:17:13

looking back , I I can you

1:17:16

know I can say that oasis were

1:17:18

Huge as well , so I

1:17:20

just like them though .

1:17:21

I Know that's a hundred percent what I think . I

1:17:23

actually agree with that skull .

1:17:25

And then that yeah , I like

1:17:27

to , and Joe guest was in the video

1:17:29

as well , which I really patched an opinion for

1:17:31

someone who's not a retard .

1:17:33

I am . I bought Definitely

1:17:36

maybe I really loved it fantastic

1:17:38

album . And then , what

1:17:41

was there ? A second album ? What was there ?

1:17:44

Yeah .

1:17:45

I bought that and then took it back because I didn't like it . They

1:17:50

said why are you bringing it back ? And I said I don't like

1:17:52

the album . I went . We've never had someone say that .

1:17:55

Well , we'll give you money back , did they ? Yeah , yeah , yeah

1:17:57

I .

1:17:58

Came in with money back because I said they said why are

1:18:00

you bringing about ? So I don't like it . They went we've

1:18:02

never , ever had someone say that all right yeah

1:18:06

.

1:18:06

I still got a carrier bag in my lob . Let's go

1:18:08

round the table in Scott . You'll start by going table . Morning

1:18:11

glory was no , definitely , maybe was

1:18:13

the first one . Was that ? What's the story ? Morning glory , which

1:18:15

one of those two favorite the way ?

1:18:20

I , there's certain tracks of ways , is that

1:18:22

just mean something to me in certain areas

1:18:24

? So I , I wouldn't . I'd

1:18:26

pick one to certain degrees name which album

1:18:29

you prefer .

1:18:29

other two it's not fucking difficult . None , that's

1:18:31

Morning glory .

1:18:33

Thank you .

1:18:34

They say there's a lot of time , then , johnny

1:18:36

, definitely maybe .

1:18:39

Definitely maybe and I'll tell you why in a minute , Okay

1:18:42

.

1:18:42

Rob oh .

1:18:42

Hmm , what's

1:18:45

the story ? But they definitely may be the first one . What's the story

1:18:47

? Morning ?

1:18:48

I don't know them well enough to know which

1:18:50

songs were on which album , but

1:18:52

I don't I Don't dislike

1:18:54

either , oh , any of their

1:18:57

albums . To be honest , there's Sometimes

1:19:00

, I

1:19:02

do stop being such

1:19:04

a prick it's your

1:19:07

one mate purely for champagne

1:19:09

supernova , and don't look back in anger . Definitely

1:19:12

maybe thank you See , I explained

1:19:14

myself and you're still being a cunt . So

1:19:16

there you go .

1:19:19

You made it awkward for everybody . Now you know that yeah .

1:19:24

Definitely , maybe . For me every time I

1:19:27

love , definitely , maybe breath fresh air

1:19:29

really was a fantastic album . The

1:19:32

other one I kind of remember the name of morning glory .

1:19:35

Yeah .

1:19:37

That to me it just all sounded the same

1:19:39

. I've lost count . What was the winner ?

1:19:43

Is it true ?

1:19:47

Yeah , johnny , carry on , sorry . No

1:19:50

, it's two bands , yes , two artists

1:19:52

. It could be a solo .

1:19:53

Yes , I'll ace this for one , and I

1:19:56

would say the verb . So

1:19:58

, the verb were actually out

1:20:01

before Oasis

1:20:03

. No , was a huge fan , yeah , and

1:20:05

interestingly enough , me Richard Ashcroft is

1:20:07

still doing music now . Awesome , and

1:20:10

I don't know if it's true , but I

1:20:12

haven't seen anything , any headlines , but no

1:20:14

one's had a beef with the verb and

1:20:17

they all respect the verb Richard Ashcroft so

1:20:19

much that they must be amazing .

1:20:21

I'll pet Robo as you .

1:20:24

I don't know you agreed , but yeah

1:20:27

so I'd say yeah the verb and Oasis

1:20:29

again . Rich Ashcroft's still doing stuff

1:20:32

now on his own . The songs are timeless

1:20:34

again . And then

1:20:36

I would say my two songs would

1:20:39

be Slytherway favourite .

1:20:41

Okay , where that one specifically buddy .

1:20:42

Slytherway . It's just the

1:20:44

lyrics is like they're just unbelievable

1:20:46

. It gives me a good feeling when I listen to it and also

1:20:49

as well , even when Oasis

1:20:52

were playing . Sorry , when Liam

1:20:54

was playing Epworth , whenever he played Slytherway I remember

1:20:57

he played Slytherway anywhere the crowd just got wild

1:20:59

again . From back in

1:21:02

the 90s to now , just

1:21:04

awesome . And then I'll

1:21:06

say something a bit maybe controversial , but this

1:21:08

is me personally .

1:21:10

Is that the reason why we picked him , of course , of course , personally

1:21:12

, personally , yeah .

1:21:14

I think the reason I chose Delirium and Silence would

1:21:16

be my second song and that

1:21:19

was because it was a dance song and

1:21:22

I'm really into like dance house music now

1:21:24

. But they that and 80B9

1:21:26

until I come was very , very close , but I think

1:21:28

Delirium was out first . He has 97 , 80b

1:21:30

was 99 . But they still

1:21:32

use that , the basis

1:21:35

that for house music now , which I'm really

1:21:37

into .

1:21:37

So I'll say those two in my favourite . So the sampling . Delirium

1:21:40

.

1:21:41

Silence .

1:21:42

So was the band .

1:21:44

No , the DJ Delirium band .

1:21:45

Oh , so it's called Silence . I know nothing about that

1:21:48

.

1:21:48

No me neither you know the song , you

1:21:50

would know the song Patch .

1:21:51

Um Patch Faithless , Would

1:21:53

I have 90s .

1:21:54

Yeah , that was , yeah , To me amazing

1:21:56

yeah .

1:21:56

Yeah so that's it .

1:21:58

That's all I'm going to say .

1:22:00

Yeah .

1:22:01

Radiohead Okay , computer .

1:22:03

Yeah , okay , computer , yeah , karma

1:22:05

, police was .

1:22:06

You were close to picking radiohead .

1:22:07

Yeah .

1:22:08

So I was close to picking radiohead

1:22:10

and Karma Police . Yeah , I

1:22:13

think OK Computer came out in 97

1:22:15

maybe and Karma Police

1:22:17

was such a massive song

1:22:19

in like I think 98 . And I remember

1:22:22

it because I was 14

1:22:24

, I think then and I used to hang around

1:22:26

with my cousin who was older and then we'd always play

1:22:28

radiohead and Karma Police , and that just reminds me of that . So

1:22:30

it gave me a good feeling in that song . But I've already given a

1:22:32

good feeling inside of it , so I'm going with Delirium

1:22:34

Silence , what I feel now with House Music Awesome

1:22:36

reasons I just just uh Radiohead

1:22:39

Creep oh yeah , you have

1:22:41

you have never , ever in your life heard

1:22:43

a version of Creep like Bishop

1:22:46

does .

1:22:46

I've been a bit . We've been to quite a few karaoke over over the

1:22:48

years . Being John Well , we spent a lot of time standing

1:22:50

around your piano in your house how your parents didn't

1:22:53

kick the fuck out of me anyway , uh

1:22:55

, where we'd stand and sing together when we're younger . But the

1:22:57

the version of Creep that John does on

1:22:59

a parachute . It is phenomenal . That's

1:23:02

a brave joy , yeah , and

1:23:04

he , he like the change between the high notes

1:23:06

and the loaner and the emotion behind it and

1:23:08

all the stuff on it . It is just phenomenal . Anyway

1:23:11

, scott , you've been waiting to say something . Sorry , it'd be great

1:23:13

. Song jump .

1:23:14

No , to be honest , it was just uh , that was a

1:23:16

creep reminds me of my first day college

1:23:18

, when I sat there I didn't know anyone and

1:23:21

someone started .

1:23:23

he said listen to this band called your first day

1:23:25

yeah , First day of college

1:23:27

. So I was like listen to this band .

1:23:29

And I thought , wow , that was took

1:23:31

me to a whole new .

1:23:33

And then I started to make new friends better friends

1:23:35

, so John has met you for the first time

1:23:37

tonight and he said that creep is what people

1:23:39

associate with you , that's actually

1:23:42

great .

1:23:42

I met you for an hour and I thought this is my moment

1:23:44

about , like Martin McCutcheon from the nineties

1:23:46

.

1:23:48

So we cause the very last podcast that we did

1:23:50

with you . On it you bought this is my moment by Martin

1:23:52

McCutcheon into it and then Dick

1:23:54

face here , dick face here

1:23:56

, felt compelled to sing it and it was dreadful

1:23:58

. Uh , sorry , buddy , sorry .

1:24:00

No , no , no One . I've already mentioned this . I

1:24:02

think you're all right . I think you're a creep

1:24:04

to ocean color scene .

1:24:05

I just mentioned those . All right , you've got me on that

1:24:08

patch . Okay , I just mentioned them .

1:24:09

He used to come into my restaurant every Friday

1:24:12

. He used to give him a free burger , Simon .

1:24:13

Simon Fowler from Free burger every

1:24:16

week and a free beer every week . He's

1:24:18

Simon Fowler .

1:24:18

I didn't know that it was him , and then I just ended up

1:24:21

just giving him every I don't know

1:24:23

what his name is .

1:24:23

At least he's Simon Fowler . Simon Fowler , yeah , more like

1:24:25

he came in your mouth .

1:24:26

Um , yeah , so um

1:24:29

that way .

1:24:30

That kind of makes it worse that you let him do it

1:24:32

when he wasn't fat Top . Do

1:24:35

you know ? All of my tops these days are tight . That's because

1:24:37

I'm fat , even like the ones I'm supposed to

1:24:39

be , Right , I know my right shirt

1:24:41

. No , I'm not right on the pants . Um , I tell

1:24:44

you what boys I've loved this All right , you guys

1:24:46

.

1:24:46

Yeah , fantastic .

1:24:48

Yeah .

1:24:48

It's brilliant .

1:24:49

I really liked it .

1:24:50

Absolutely brilliant . Um

1:24:52

, I think , a round of applause at a night .

1:24:54

I'll just about say yeah , Johnny , I disagree

1:24:56

.

1:24:58

I think we're filling .

1:25:00

I have to say , johnny , I have been , you know , sitting there , you

1:25:02

know , trying to poke you and I and wind you up , but you

1:25:04

know , you're really gracious and funny about it . You don't

1:25:06

genuinely get the right um and make

1:25:08

everybody go . Oh , thank you

1:25:10

for that , that was great .

1:25:12

You did really well .

1:25:13

Right , let's have a quick break where

1:25:15

John can give . Uh , well , you guys can give us the scores that

1:25:17

Johnny's got and then we'll come right back

1:25:19

, wrap up the show , give up the final scores

1:25:21

. I think , johnny , you put yourself in

1:25:23

contention there , mate , perfect yeah .

1:25:25

One .

1:25:29

All right , another

1:25:32

drink break Um

1:25:34

. Rob , have you calmed down now , are you okay

1:25:37

?

1:25:37

I was , I was all good .

1:25:38

Oh yeah , you were purple , was

1:25:40

that yeah ?

1:25:42

Oh , that's , because of the sun , a bit

1:25:45

of a redhead .

1:25:47

See , that's those sunflowers . It was the

1:25:49

sunflowers .

1:25:50

Walking around a maze for two and a half hours

1:25:53

. You make it out . All right , I did make it out .

1:25:55

Yeah , yeah . Yeah , we did have to cheat a little bit , Was that under

1:25:57

two hours ?

1:25:58

Well , it was two hours to the big one , half an hour

1:26:00

for the small one . We did both of them in

1:26:02

just under one hour . No

1:26:05

, an hour and a half .

1:26:06

Did you just say you had to cheat ? Yes , we

1:26:08

did . How did you cheat what ?

1:26:09

did you .

1:26:10

We walked through . Did you have a chainsaw ?

1:26:11

You were .

1:26:13

It was like , okay , we need to be over there .

1:26:16

And we can't get through there .

1:26:18

So we're going to walk through the maze

1:26:20

. Wow , wow .

1:26:22

Just make clear . We got an email here from Mr Stains

1:26:24

who

1:26:27

wonders why we hate each other so

1:26:29

much . That you make it very , very

1:26:31

clear I love this kind of death . I

1:26:33

do like winding them up and it's not always fair . But

1:26:36

you know , love the guy to death . Scott

1:26:40

, you said you were going to be here for like

1:26:42

40 minutes an hour and go home .

1:26:44

Three hours of sleep . I'm glad you weren't .

1:26:47

Because it's always wonderful having you here , I'd like

1:26:49

to get from you some of your

1:26:51

thoughts on what you've heard . Any final things you want to say , anything

1:26:54

you want to add and if , before

1:26:56

we get to the scores , separately from the scores

1:26:58

, I'm going to put you on the spot I

1:27:01

want you to tell us which of the decades you

1:27:03

personally feel is the

1:27:05

greatest decade of music .

1:27:07

Okay , thank you very much . I've really

1:27:09

enjoyed tonight . That's hence why I stayed . I

1:27:13

thought everyone's arguments was fantastic

1:27:16

. I think we filled a little bit for

1:27:18

John , but that's

1:27:20

just a personal view , but I

1:27:22

thought everyone's arguments were superb

1:27:25

, actually superb , and it brought back a lot of memories

1:27:27

and lovely memories of certain things that you

1:27:29

don't think about to certain degree and you've got other

1:27:31

influences within that , that

1:27:33

you have personal influences

1:27:35

. But I've really

1:27:37

really enjoyed it tonight and it's lovely and I think

1:27:39

, as perhaps it's it's lovely

1:27:42

to talk about music on every level when it's so

1:27:44

personal , when it makes you

1:27:46

emotional about everything . But

1:27:49

my personal view

1:27:51

is the sixties really is smashed

1:27:54

everything out the park .

1:27:55

I think Fuck you .

1:27:56

Yeah .

1:27:58

Van Halen . They came out . Van Halen

1:28:00

was the sixties .

1:28:01

Were they yeah which band in particular

1:28:04

has gone ? Which band in particular ? Van

1:28:06

Halen , because they were in every decade .

1:28:08

To be fair , rob , that's a really good point , rob . Yeah

1:28:10

, I'm just

1:28:12

about to say that . Thanks for leading into it

1:28:14

. Buddy , I want to hear from you Two bands , two songs , if you've

1:28:17

got them if you haven't Van .

1:28:17

Halen obviously Fucking .

1:28:19

Van .

1:28:19

Halen . Have

1:28:21

you got two bands Jimi Hendrix here Songs ?

1:28:22

Don't that be from the sixties ? Just let's , let's go from all

1:28:24

time .

1:28:25

I mean Fleetwood Mac is obviously going to be one . My

1:28:27

Fleetwood Mac is my favourite band of all time .

1:28:29

And what's your favourite ? Fleetwood Mac song .

1:28:31

You Make Love and Fun .

1:28:32

I just oh yeah

1:28:34

, we've had that conversation , Scott and

1:28:37

me , Johnny and Rob .

1:28:37

I've sat there about three o'clock in the morning at Johnny's

1:28:39

and Rob was very drunk . We'd be drinking for a while and

1:28:42

I don't know who asked it , but we started talking about it what songs

1:28:44

would you want to be played at your funeral ? These are my

1:28:46

two songs and you just had them .

1:28:48

Right there I've thought about this quite a lot . Yes

1:28:50

, you Make Love and Fun . And

1:28:52

Elton John Tiny

1:28:55

Dancer .

1:28:55

This is my two songs and the wife

1:28:57

.

1:28:58

Because I'm tiny . I like dancing .

1:29:00

You're not Actually the thing is .

1:29:01

the thing is I don't like dancing unless I'm

1:29:04

smashed , and if I'm dancing , then take

1:29:06

me home . Yeah , but

1:29:09

those are my two .

1:29:11

Perfect . Yes , Mate , we're very glad that you stayed

1:29:13

. Rob . Any final thoughts from you , buddy

1:29:15

?

1:29:16

No , I thought it was great . I really liked it . I

1:29:19

like having a lot of people around the

1:29:21

table . It's great .

1:29:21

Really is fun , isn't it ? Yeah , it's great , it's

1:29:24

really good .

1:29:25

Lots of different opinions and all that

1:29:27

kind of stuff and it's really good .

1:29:29

We've had from our friend , graham , who's nicknamed I still

1:29:31

don't know why Shaggy Graham . Again

1:29:33

, I'll go back to what I said around about making me feel

1:29:35

inferior singing-wise Again , it sounds arrogant . There's

1:29:38

not a lot of people that do make me feel inferior . Intelligence-wise

1:29:41

that sounds arrogant . But I do kind

1:29:43

of think fuck me , I don't want to get into a conversation with

1:29:45

you because you'll destroy me and Graham .

1:29:46

Oh , Graham's fiercely intelligent .

1:29:48

Disgustingly intelligent , fiercely intelligent , and he wrote

1:29:50

on Facebook tonight that he thought that Abby stole

1:29:53

the show . I made something on football .

1:29:55

Oh , okay , oh , was he listening .

1:29:56

Yeah .

1:29:56

No , no , that's this one , the football one , the one I posted is that

1:29:58

I need to say about Abby . She stole the show

1:30:00

. She did really well , so it's great having other

1:30:03

people , isn't it ?

1:30:04

Indeed .

1:30:05

John . Any final thoughts from you , mr Bishbob

1:30:07

?

1:30:08

Yeah , I guess it's a little bit late now , seeing as the

1:30:10

votes have already been cast , but I'm going

1:30:12

to leave you with a little sort of analogy

1:30:14

of where I see the decades . So in

1:30:17

the 60s the seeds

1:30:19

of music were planted . Boom

1:30:21

In the 70s German

1:30:24

age the sunflower started to grow

1:30:26

. In

1:30:29

the 80s it

1:30:31

sort of reached full bloom and

1:30:33

it was magnificent and

1:30:36

then in the 90s it sort of whizzled out and died .

1:30:39

I'll leave it there .

1:30:43

I say , john and I have done each other since 2016 . And

1:30:45

you know he's always been one of my best

1:30:47

, dearest friends . We have gone through various

1:30:49

different reasons not negative ones , just life , pretty

1:30:52

long periods of not seeing each other and talking and stuff like

1:30:54

that . But every time we do see each other , it's like it was yesterday

1:30:56

and like time to time that perfectly encapsulated

1:30:59

just why I love you so much . That was absolutely

1:31:01

brilliant .

1:31:03

Well , I think John's just summed it up the

1:31:05

80s were pretentious , and that's

1:31:07

fantastic , pretentious

1:31:09

and arrogant If the 80s were a club , they'd be

1:31:11

Liz Flairs . Let's just say that .

1:31:13

I'm going to leave it at that , All right thank you very much

1:31:15

.

1:31:16

Thanks for having me on again and

1:31:20

I also know in Pat Jinsle was 16 . We've

1:31:23

got a lot closer , kind of as grown-ups didn't we , we

1:31:25

knew each other at those teenage .

1:31:26

but we hung around in different groups and you wouldn't let me

1:31:28

in your group , which is obviously you know I'm fine

1:31:30

with it , I'm fine .

1:31:32

But that is an example of why I love you so much . Thank

1:31:34

you , john , pat . Seriously , boys , we're drinking yeah

1:31:36

amazing You've been brilliant tonight . Thank you , I

1:31:40

want to have you back on the show again as soon as possible .

1:31:41

Look forward to the next one .

1:31:42

Awesome , Johnny Greenfield

1:31:44

. Pretty but vacant . Any

1:31:47

final thoughts from ? You ?

1:31:48

What do you ?

1:31:48

mean .

1:31:50

All right , I'm just not hungry at all .

1:31:53

We're in the pub early One day you need to be .

1:31:55

We're outside the pub .

1:31:57

I don't want to have a drink and like for about 10 minutes

1:31:59

he just rinsed me , Didn't you think ? We said , and I'll just

1:32:01

grind it when I'm going to get you back ?

1:32:03

And I'll have this .

1:32:04

I had that line in my mind for about four hours .

1:32:06

I thought I'm going to throw that in there . Boom , has

1:32:08

it worked .

1:32:09

What did you do ? You grin at me and move

1:32:11

on . You're a fucking prick , I hate

1:32:13

you .

1:32:13

Yeah , no , no , it's that . Yeah , really good . Learned

1:32:16

a lot from you guys , enjoyed it , didn't

1:32:18

know a lot about , especially the

1:32:20

early decades where Way out

1:32:22

of your era , isn't it . Well

1:32:24

, I'm into music a lot Like daddy's

1:32:26

working it and it was , but I've never really

1:32:29

looked that deep into it around . I

1:32:31

think you might say that catch about what your

1:32:33

parents listen to and stuff . So you're very siloed

1:32:35

into what you listen to . So hearing a wider

1:32:37

story of it is very interesting to

1:32:40

her . And also I'm glad I went last because

1:32:42

I could take some notes and , yeah , I'm

1:32:45

glad .

1:32:45

I wasn't first . I tell you that .

1:32:48

It would have taken three minutes .

1:32:49

No , it was actually was really good . I was sitting in half

1:32:51

. For me it was like rooting for you . John is not

1:32:53

vacant , of course he's not easy .

1:32:55

Very clever guy .

1:32:56

If he wasn't , he would be one of my best friends . As

1:32:58

I would say don't surround myself with stupid people . So

1:33:00

I just try to wind him up , but he never buys , so

1:33:02

it's pointless really , but I

1:33:05

was sitting in it . I won't lie , there was a part of me kind

1:33:07

of sitting and thinking , oh please crash .

1:33:09

I was close , but you know I was

1:33:11

close , I was close . So

1:33:13

thank you guys for giving me a bit

1:33:15

of insight and to tell this is going to be yeah

1:33:17

, but you didn't . You did , it was really really good

1:33:20

.

1:33:20

He wants to hear the final scores . Yes , yeah

1:33:22

, go on it . Yeah , okay . I'm

1:33:26

not going to give the actual scores , just so I do an X factor , but I'm going to give

1:33:28

you in reverse order , in

1:33:30

tide for third place . Dead

1:33:35

end is a crime . Can somebody make a noise or like

1:33:38

a music tune ?

1:33:39

Oh , that's

1:33:42

as good as drumrolls I can do . It

1:33:44

was good , it was really good , third

1:33:46

place .

1:33:46

tide for third place . It is Johnny

1:33:49

and Robbo . Oh , well

1:33:51

done , I'll take that .

1:33:53

It was really tempted to deliberately score Robbo lower .

1:33:57

So he'd finished last , but I think that class

1:33:59

might have become a permanent fixture in my face if I'd

1:34:02

have done that . So in second

1:34:04

place in second place , and

1:34:06

this won't come as a surprise , really , given

1:34:08

what an amazing job that

1:34:11

the first place person did In second place

1:34:13

. It is John Bishop . However

1:34:19

, what I will say is the gap was only two points

1:34:21

. So it was very close

1:34:23

but the winner , and I don't think you know

1:34:25

it was a great way to kick off the

1:34:27

show because made everyone shit their pants . Thoroughly

1:34:32

deserved patch and the sixties

1:34:34

. Thank you very much

1:34:36

. Beautiful

1:34:39

. I don't think anybody got any final thoughts before we

1:34:41

click off for the Well , no kernel for

1:34:43

the music we hear today

1:34:45

, so it's hardly any surprise . I

1:34:47

actually thought , Robbo , you made a really fair point . Obviously , I

1:34:50

was trying to throw you earlier on about how the sixties was . You know , began

1:34:52

the germination of the seventies and then , John

1:34:55

, you made a few . You picked up Ramada , you know , if

1:34:57

you look at music , I said I fuck all about music

1:34:59

. But as with many things that are nothing about , it

1:35:01

doesn't stop me .

1:35:02

Do you know what ? I think the sixties is kind of that

1:35:04

tentative kind of can

1:35:06

we do this , Can we , can we get , can we do that , Can

1:35:09

we get away with that ? And then they got away with it

1:35:11

. And then the seventies went . Yeah

1:35:14

, let's fucking go , man , it's

1:35:16

like just went mad . But

1:35:18

it's without the sixties , without

1:35:21

that sixties tentative

1:35:23

kind of dip your toe in the water it wouldn't have happened .

1:35:25

Although the sixties was first first chorus , first first chorus

1:35:27

oh it was all formulaic

1:35:30

and it always is now .

1:35:31

Jesus look at everything .

1:35:32

Jesus , it's all formulaic

1:35:35

, but it's that experimental side

1:35:37

of it that came out and

1:35:39

it started in the sixties and then it just went

1:35:41

poof in the helped .

1:35:43

The Beatles took LSD .

1:35:47

That's when they got really good .

1:35:48

Everyone did the sixties that's

1:35:51

a good point .

1:35:52

Actually , we haven't touched on that at all .

1:35:54

There was a great story about the first time they dropped LSD , and

1:35:56

I think it was with Bob Dylan , if I remember right .

1:35:58

Could it ?

1:35:58

be , it was pop .

1:36:00

It was pop , but then .

1:36:01

ah right , it was something to talk about . But the first time I did LSD

1:36:04

apparently the McCartney and Lenin

1:36:06

and Harrison in particular like fucking hell

1:36:08

, there's a whole new world being

1:36:11

opened up , you know , and they just like absolutely

1:36:13

kind of embraced it . George Harrison is fascinating

1:36:15

to me , actually , so I was dragging out a bit now , but George Harrison I

1:36:18

find the most fascinating . The Beatles because I

1:36:20

think it wasn't till was a third or fourth album he

1:36:22

didn't write a song for the album

1:36:24

.

1:36:25

Second album he actually wrote the first song

1:36:27

on patch Okay .

1:36:29

Then it was after it was about the fourth

1:36:32

or 50 , he started to actually have a bit of a musical voice

1:36:34

.

1:36:34

Yeah , he took him a while , didn't it , To kind of really

1:36:36

find his voice and find his confidence

1:36:38

there . Do you think To

1:36:41

actually speak ?

1:36:42

up ? Yeah , I would say his confidence , but also your , overshadowed

1:36:44

by Lenin and McCartney ?

1:36:45

Yeah , if you're in competition

1:36:47

with Lenin and McCartney . You're going to be a

1:36:49

little bit sheepish .

1:36:52

Stop me mate .

1:36:53

I think Lenin and McCartney gave George

1:36:56

Harrison and Ringo Starr a token song on

1:36:58

each album so they would have you know

1:37:00

credit .

1:37:02

Yeah , that's what you're talking about , isn't it ? Octopus's

1:37:04

Garden , because Ringo was that was his

1:37:06

one , wasn't it ?

1:37:07

Yeah , Right , and funny enough . My daughter's

1:37:09

one of my daughters . My daughter's second favorite

1:37:11

song my daughter Shit . My son

1:37:13

Jacob , Wow , my

1:37:16

son Jacob , his second favorite song has got my mind set on you

1:37:18

by George Harrison .

1:37:19

That's my first song and his favorite is

1:37:21

Say , say , say .

1:37:22

Johnny's been dying to say something . I knew you were telling me to shut the

1:37:24

fuck up and finish the podcast .

1:37:25

Well , no , I was just saying that I think we've got

1:37:28

a good insight .

1:37:30

Yeah , to shut the fuck up and finish the podcast .

1:37:33

Yeah , that's what that means .

1:37:34

All three of us own the company . You can be a prick to

1:37:36

me . I can't fire you . He

1:37:38

knows . That's why he threatens me . I

1:37:40

don't threaten anyone . I'm

1:37:43

scared of you .

1:37:44

I think you're always a threat .

1:37:46

Yeah exactly .

1:37:48

It's the redness around them , isn't it ?

1:37:51

That's the sunflowers .

1:37:53

Definitely was a sunflowers .

1:37:55

I tell you what , John Patch , I love you both so much . You've

1:37:57

been absolutely fucking legends on this . Thank you so much , boys

1:37:59

. Thanks for having us .

1:38:02

Thank you very much , always a pleasure .

1:38:05

Thank you for sticking around . You

1:38:07

were great . You were great , babe . Thank you .

1:38:11

And John and .

1:38:11

Robby as you saw guys , we are out , we

1:38:13

are done . That's OST down from here . We're going to take

1:38:15

a two-week break now because Johnny is off on a stag

1:38:17

do yes , stag do and we're

1:38:19

going to have a little mid-season break . But what we do have is we

1:38:21

have two episodes of season two that

1:38:24

I thought were lost , but I found Including

1:38:27

John is the co-host

1:38:30

on one of those two episodes

1:38:32

, and we also have the

1:38:34

season finale of Bollocks or Not

1:38:36

, and the winner of that episode

1:38:38

of Bollocks or Not won the entire season . So

1:38:40

keep your ears open for that , folks . We

1:38:42

are done , we're out of here . Thank you for listening , remember

1:38:45

don't be a dick .

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