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This is Mike Roth on Open Forum in The Villages,

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Florida . Welcome to season number five . I'm here

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today with Dr William Shang .

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This life journey of mine eventually

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led me . my

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interest in .

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You're thin , or at least you're probably

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a metabolistic . What do they

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call that ?

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Basal metabolic rate .

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Basal metabolic rate is probably well within

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the normal range .

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Do you know what the major determinant of basal metabolic

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rate is ? Weight and height . No , it's

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lean body mass . It's how much muscle

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you have on your body . If you have

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a lot of skeletal muscle

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on your body , you will have a high metabolic

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rate . So if you do

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strength training and you increase muscle

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, then you will increase your basal metabolic

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rate and you will be burning calories

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throughout the day . I

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think most people have the misconception

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that weight lifters , people who do

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that , they're the gym rats . But we're

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only talking about two hours a week .

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Two hours a week in the gym .

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Yeah , so one session for an

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hour , then followed by another session

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in an hour , and what you're doing

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is creating these very

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small , microscopic tears in the

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muscle at a very gradual

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rate , as then the next day

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your body's repairing it , and then the day

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after that it's still repairing it , and that takes a lot

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of energy .

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So that's why we feel strains when

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we go to the gym .

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That's right .

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Then you want them taking Tylenol . Well that

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you probably overdid it .

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Then If you do it right

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, it's a little bit achy the next day

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, but you don't want to do what I

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did initially .

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What did you do initially ?

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I followed

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Arnold's prescription there .

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Oh , and what happened to ?

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you Well hurt my shoulder and

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I was out for months and

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there is . So there was a study

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that was done and this is

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more than two decades ago now . The

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US government funded this national

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diabetes prevention program and they

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studied the best way for

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people to exercise to beat diabetes

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and beat metabolism . And what's

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interesting is that , even

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though the study beat all

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medication , we don't know that much

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about the exercises that were done . You have to

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actually read the study and you've got to

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look at the supplement that came with

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the study and you can see how they exercise .

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What kind of exercises did they use ?

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They did not use any fancy gym

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equipment . It was all what they call

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those selector type , the one with

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the little key that you stick into those

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metal plates . Yes , and they

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had X number of times . You

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do it and you gradually

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progress and I was so intrigued by

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that . It was not in

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the public domain easily . I

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took their studies and I wrote a

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book on it Because it's so important

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that the public knows that it's in their

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hands , they can do this and

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what is the name of the book ?

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Dr Jen .

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It's called the first program Fighting Insulin

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Resistance with Strain Training . It's

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available on Amazon , but in there I

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show you what the government discovered . And

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what's amazing to me is

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that we don't spread the knowledge like

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the governments in New Zealand or Australia

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, because of the way the incentive

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are built in this country . The health care it's into

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the drug companies . Well , I don't want to

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blame them , it's just the way the incentives are set

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up .

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So how long ago did you write

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your book ?

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I think it's seven years

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, seven years now .

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Okay , in the past seven years , how many copies were

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sold approximately ?

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I think three or four thousand , three or four thousand

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.

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Is it available as an ?

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audiobook ? No , I think I would

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have to sit down and read it , but I don't even like

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to hear myself .

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Okay , don't worry , I have AI voices that can

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read it for you , but only

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seven . Is that seven thousand ? No no , or

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did I say three or four thousand ? Three or four thousand ? How many

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people do you think should read in America

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, in England ?

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Well , I wouldn't necessarily have to

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read . I would say if you take this

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knowledge , it's well close

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to two-thirds of our adult population

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who have so at least 50 million

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people Easily and

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what's really the take-home message

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here is that medications

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they don't treat necessarily the root problem

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here .

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They give you systematic relief .

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Perhaps , maybe , Maybe , Maybe you

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know statins , for example . They work on an

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enzyme that's in the muscle , so that's

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why many people who take statins have muscle

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soreness . But my question is

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, why would you want to do that when you can

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do the same thing without a medication

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, without the side ?

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effect , and how much exercise

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per week would someone need to do

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beyond just walking for a half hour

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a day to drop the

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statins ?

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Hmm , well , it's individual

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.

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Just take your own , guess you know .

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Okay . So I would say that

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you can only do the best you can do Well

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as we age , we all have other problems

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, whether it's hips , knees , shoulders

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, back .

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We have these parts of our body that are wearing

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out or become arthritic and that

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makes people resistive

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to exercise , because the

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exercise is going to make that part of their body

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hurt .

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Okay , good , okay , I can answer that question

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better . There are undoubtedly

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areas that and everybody who

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it hurts to move . What's great

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about metabolic exercise , or the

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exercise of moving those large muscles , is

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that you can pick and choose . You got a shoulder that hurts

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. Don't do lat pull-down . Don't do overhead

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presses . You don't have to . You can do

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those portions that help

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and that don't hurt .

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Okay , so this becomes selective and

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individualistic . Each person needs

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to pick the exercises that they do , and

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I think you said you need two hours a

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week of these types of exercises Right

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, two sessions a week . Two sessions a

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week , that's right Of an hour each .

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That's about how long it takes . I

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mean , not everyone who starts off is going to be able to

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do an hour , but Right , right , and

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there are people who are already too far going and can't

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move very much . Yes , that's you

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know . Obviously , the best time

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of the planet tree was 20 years ago , but

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the next best time is today , okay

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so , Okay , that makes sense .

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And then you have to water it , fertilize it to

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make sure the thing grows . That's true . Put it in a

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place where it's actually going to get some sunlight . Okay

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, let me ask you about

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something else we talked about before and

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we wanted to put this in the show . This is

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the area about sugar and

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how people become addicted to the taste

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of sugar , whether it's in cookies or cake

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or ice cream . You have

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a solution for a strange

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one , but I wanted to share with our

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audience what that solution is .

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Prior to the commercialization

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of sugar , which was about the time

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of the industrial evolution , the average person's

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sugar intake came from honey

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.

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Okay , maybe maple syrup . Yes , good

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stuff .

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But that was it . There aren't too many

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other natural sources of sugar , and

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in the 1700s the average person

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in England had one teaspoon of

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sugar a day . That much okay . That much About

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10 years ago we peaked in the US

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at about a little over a cup a day

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of sugar and it was hidden in

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a lot of different things . It's massive and

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sugar meets the criteria

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for an addictive substance . No kidding , what

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are the criteria ? Well , let's think about it . If

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you don't have sugar , does it change your mood

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? If you don't have sugar , do you

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crave it ?

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Mm-hmm .

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Yeah , if you , let me think of some other

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. What happens when you stop eating sugar ? Oh

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yeah , when you stop eating sugar , then you

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crash . So one of the

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problems is and it was actually

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created by the

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US government when they decided to

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make the recommendation to decrease

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cholesterol on our foods is that

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we had to put something else in there to

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make food palatable , and that was sugar

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. And so it was very

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quietly a few years ago that US government says cholesterol

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is not a nutrient of concern , but

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so sugar , oh yeah . So I brought something today

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.

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Okay , why don't you tell our audience what you brought

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Go get ? It Comes in a little pill

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bottle from like a drug store or Amazon

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.

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So this is from

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just a . It's happens to be swan's environments

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, but I'm not advertising for them . It's called Guinness

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Stemma Sylvesteries .

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Say that or maybe spell it for our listeners

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.

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So the first word is begins

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like the word gym , gymnasium , g-y-m-n

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, and then ends E-M-A , and

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then the last word is Sylvestery , like ruin

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that cat on the cartoon .

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What's Sylvester Stallone ?

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Sylvester Stallone right , Except it's T-R-E

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instead of E-R . This is an

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Indian substance , the Asian

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Indian substance that they

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use in herbal medicine to treat

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high blood sugar , and

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it's remarkable . I

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think one thing that I was when

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I researched these nutraceuticals

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, these plant-based medicine to

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treat pre-diabetes

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, is that there was a lot of research out there

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, but it's not in your typical journal

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that I used to read , like JAMMA or the

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New England Journal . They are published in

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other type of journals that don't overlap

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. So I brought this today and I thought we

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can try this and you can see

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for yourself .

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Okay , so what you've done is you've taken

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one of the capsules apart and put

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it into a piece of paper . A small

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amount , probably a couple of grams , would

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you say .

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Oh , it's less than that . It's less than that

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, it's just so

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. This is the ground up dried leaf , and

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so we're going to put this on our

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tongue .

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Okay , so we're going to take this brown powder

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. Put it on our tongue so we may sound a little different

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.

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All right , so we're just going to move it around and coat the

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top of the tongue . To me it tastes like mocha

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, I don't know . What do you think ?

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It's got a different kind of taste . It's not really mocha

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.

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Okay , so I brought some sweet tarts

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, some candy there with different colors , so you can

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pick one , that something that you can ?

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I got a gray one . It says chip

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. Let me choke a lot .

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Okay , so I have the same color as you . Okay

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, okay . So I think it's great , great .

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We put it on our mouths .

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And you've been chewing it . And what do you taste ? Mike , these

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sweet tarts are pretty sweet .

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I'll confess I've never had a sweet talk by itself

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. Okay , If I taste anything , maybe

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a slight hint of grape .

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A slight hint of grape . Okay , now , these are okay

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. These are very sweet . How much sugar was

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in them ? Oh , okay , there's a gram

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of sugar in each one . This

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is kids candy . Okay , this should

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be knock your socks off . Sweet .

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Okay , so it's not knock my socks off

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sweet when I crushed it with my teeth . That's

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when I really began to taste the grape

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type flavor in it . But it didn't

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taste sweet , it just tasted grapy

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.

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Okay , so it only lasts for about 30

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minutes , so don't worry , your taste buds

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will come back .

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Okay , my strawberry shortcake for dessert at dinner will

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be okay .

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You won't be able to blame me for

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it tasting bad . This is an interesting

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substance because it helps

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in two ways . They sell this in a liquid

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form too . You can spray in your mouth for

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people who don't have the willpower

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to resist sweets during the holidays

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or anytime . There

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you go . But it also

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it works because it blocks the sugar receptors

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on the tongue .

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It's funny . You mentioned that we had a Mercedes-Benz

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holiday party last

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Tuesday night and there were 68

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people at the party and we had

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a catered affair

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some fish , some veggies

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, some rottolatini

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eggplant , a little bit of

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steak and the only thing that we ran

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out of was cookies . Okay

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, since my wife and I actually purchased

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the cookies , we knew there were over 100

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cookies . With only 68

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people . They were going like

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that and there were leftovers of

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everything else .

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So this is . It works

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by blocking the sugar receptors on your tongue . Hopefully

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you've experienced this . Now we also

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have sweet receptors in the pancreas

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and we have

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sweet receptors in our brain . That's what makes us crave

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sweet stuff , and the

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way that the Indian doctors used

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it is they would ingest it

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. You can take the . I open the caps

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, you can just swallow them and

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it goes into the pancreas , into

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the brain , and it blocks the desire to eat

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sugar .

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Oh , no more desserts .

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Well , it's not as intensive craving

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.

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Well , I mean that worked for me as

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a diet Many years ago when

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I was noticed I was getting a little bit of weight

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and eating out a lot for business

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. I figured it was easier

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to drink a second cup of coffee and

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not have dessert , and that worked for many

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years . Not so much anymore . I don't

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like coffee as much anymore .

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What I find very interesting

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is that there's a whole bunch of

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plant-based medicine out there that

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is relatively unfamiliar

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to the public in general

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. That helps with various

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aspects of weight gain

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, lipid management and

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high blood sugar .

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So from a medical perspective , there are

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a few doctors in the villages , sometimes

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chiropractors , that are

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professing that their methodology

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will create weight loss , and they're probably

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using these natural vegetables

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or extracts to get there

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as opposed to a prescription drug .

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It could be . I don't know . I'm not familiar

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with any particular person you're talking

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about Certainly the medical profession

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, because our medical license allows

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us to do surgery and write prescription

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drugs . This is not our daily work per se

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. I think what's interesting about this

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is that the average person can avail themselves

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of something that actually

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works , and these are , as

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I mentioned earlier , these are studies that have

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been done . It's just not readily

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available . One of the benefits

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that I have with an academic affiliation

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is I can pull these studies up they're not behind a

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paywall and see that there

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is actually a scientific basis

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for suggesting me

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. So I wrote this

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up in my second book , which is you have two

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books . I have two books , right , we hope

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. What's the name of the second book , the second

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book ? It has this title called the Thin

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Prediabetic , which I wish . I probably

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should rewrite the contents then , because

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I was thinking about somebody

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who has a high glucose

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level and they go to their doctor and

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the doctor would say well , I

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can put you on metformin or you can lose weight

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. Oh , you don't need to lose weight . Then what

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can they do ? But most of the book actually

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has to do with these plants and

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other supplements that might work

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.

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And that will also on Amazon .

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Yes , also on Amazon .

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This is Mike Roth with Dr Craig Curtis

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. With today's Alzheimer's tip , what

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is the diagnostic process

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to split the difference between someone

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who has Alzheimer's and someone who has

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a different form of dementia ?

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That's a great question , mike . So Alzheimer's

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disease in the past was

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a clinical diagnosis and

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we would talk to the patient and the family

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and they would tell us about this progressive

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memory loss and maybe other

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symptoms that have been

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occurring over the past three to five years and

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we would simply test their memory and

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maybe wait another year or two and retest

15:22

their memory to look for decline . Nowadays

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it's completely different . As a matter of fact

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, now our diagnostic process

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involves actually looking for amyloid

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in the brain , which we now

15:34

know causes Alzheimer's disease

15:37

. How do you see amyloid in the brain ? We

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can see amyloid in the brain using PET scans

15:41

, which is the most common way , and

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now we're working on using blood tests

15:45

, which are going to be coming out

15:47

in the next few years . In fact , there's

15:50

already one blood test that is FDA

15:52

cleared to detect amyloid in the

15:54

blood which is reflecting amyloid

15:56

in the brain , and that would be the differential

15:58

between another type of dementia

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and Alzheimer's .

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Yes , sir .

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