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This is Mike Roth here on Open Forum in the Villages

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, florida . Here today with Anthony Sabatini

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. Anthony is running in the Republican

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Primary against Daniel Webster

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. Thanks for joining me , Anthony . Hey , thanks for having

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me on . I think why don't you tell our listeners

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a little bit about your background ?

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Sure , I'm an attorney from Lake County . I grew up

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here in Central Florida . I lived here pretty much my

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whole life , moved down when I was just

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a kid , went to public school , university of Florida

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for college and law , came out and practiced law

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in my offices in Mount Dora . I just finished

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up my time in the Florida legislature . I did

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four years in the state house where I was ranked

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every year the most conservative member of the public

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in caucus , which I'm very proud of . I'm having

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a strong conservative record . Before that I was a

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city commissioner in the town of Eustace for

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two years and I got a lot done

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there . I also serve as a captain in the Florida

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Army National Guard Infantry Still servings

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on to over eight hurricanes now

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throughout the years , and I also serve

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as the chairman of the Lake County Republican

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Party , so I'm the current chairman of that . I'm running

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for District 11 for the United

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States Congress and in the Republican

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primary . My wife , francesca , is

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an attorney , works at my law firm also and we

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have one eight month old child named Rick Hill

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.

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What type of law do you practice ?

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Full civil litigation . So a lot of contract

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law , property law , employment law and

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a little bit of criminal defense to keep it interesting

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.

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You were in the Army for a number of years .

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Still in Florida Army National Guard going

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on 14 years and then , when it's been a blast

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, absolutely loving it , continue to serve

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. Probably will do it 20 years and

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then .

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How long have you been chairman of the Lake County

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Republican Party ?

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11 months . I got elected last December for

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a two year term so I'll continue

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in that role through next December

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and hopefully after the election . Once

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we win in November and swear in January , I'll

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pass that off to one of the other good conservatives

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and organization to continue leading it .

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From a platform perspective . What

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are the main points of your candidacy

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?

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Well , I think the biggest is just doing a

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very strong , conservative , america first

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agenda . A lot of what Donald Trump talks about

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is exactly what I believe needs to be done . We need

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to build a wall . We need to deport

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illegal immigrants . We need to cut

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taxes and help business and bring back jobs

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. Fix this economy that Joe Biden has

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slowed down so much . She's created so much economic

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uncertainty , so that's a major , major

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issue for us Pro life . I want to make

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sure we're protecting the lives of the unborn , protecting

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religious liberty , freedoms of every American

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, including their second and Bevin rights , and

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really just make America great again

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. It's a combination of reviving

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the economy that Biden's tried to destroy

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, rebuilding our military and fighting

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back against the corruption in government

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, especially this new wokeness or

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leftism you're seeing in the government , and also

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this weaponized Department of Justice

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. Those are the key things . I'm running out .

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So how do you fix the government with

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so many of these hook supporters

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in protected positions ?

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Well , the biggest thing we need to be doing is cutting

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government . That's the quickest , easiest and smartest

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way to fix it is to just eliminate it . For

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example , the Department of Education shouldn't exist . Truth

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is , we should have gotten rid of it in 2017 . We

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had the Republicans in the House , the Senate , the White House

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, but you had deep staters and leftists

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in the Republican Party , like Paul

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Ryan , who were fighting that . But we should

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be shutting down some of the government agencies

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straight up . Another mechanism

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that the Republicans thus far have failed

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to do but needs to get done is you

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need to tie the budget to policy

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, so we'll fund a certain agency

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or a job title as long as it doesn't

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do X , y or Z , or it does do X , y

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and Z , and with that

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stipulation , you can defund

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things just through writers

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into the budget . So , for example , right

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now , the Department of Justice . It's not that we don't want a Department

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of Justice . Obviously , you're going to want one , sure .

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We want an effective one .

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We all do . But you also don't want radical

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political actors who are misprioritizing

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government money and focus acting within

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it , and so you can block certain

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actions of Department of Justice executive branch

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employees just by spending the budget

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in a certain way .

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Now , while I agree with the fact that we should

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have a southern border wall

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, there is something called an airplane

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. How do you protect us against that With

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a just wall , you mean ?

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people flying into the country . That is correct

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. Well , that's customs . So

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you need to make sure that you're reforming ICE

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and customs , us Customs

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and Border Patrol to effectively stop

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. The truth of the matter is there's far , far , far

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less people coming in through flights

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overstaying visas than there is just straight

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up walking into the country or boating

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into the country . We've had 50 or 100

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Venezuelans land in South Florida

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this week . So far , the response in Biden has

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been nothing . He doesn't really care , and so

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that's something that needs to get fixed rather quickly

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. But just putting a focus on

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that reforming those agencies . We

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talked about defunding agencies

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from doing certain things . I mean , one of the things that Border

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Patrol does now is , once they detain

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somebody at the border , they'll fly

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them in further . So , to your

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point , flying them is an issue , but the truth is

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they come in physically through the border

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and then they're flown in further . They're using our money

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to fly them in further into the country than

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giving them cell phones housing

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different types of payments . You can block

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that through the budget . Republicans have failed

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to do that . It's one of the biggest mistakes

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McCarthy made . It's why Ken McCarthy had

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to go . He should have never been the speaker

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, but at a minimum he should have been removed

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because he refused to use the budget

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in such a way to be constructed in stopping

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the invasion of the border .

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Well , now we have invasion of cities

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like New York City with thousands and thousands

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of illegal aliens in

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up in hotels . How do we get

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those people out of the country you ?

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We have to deport them . That's the truth

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of the matter . You have to amp up our

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customs and border agency and ICE

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to remove these people , physically remove

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these people . There's no other way to do it

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. This is what we need to be pushing . The truth is

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, knowing that Biden won't do it until he's

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gone , states need to step up in

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the meantime . Texas , just last week

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, passed a law saying that they're going to arrest

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and detain and push out illegals

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who come into the state of Texas . Florida

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really should

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do exactly the same . Every state

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is a border state . If somebody comes into Florida

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illegally , they should be removed , especially if they're

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a criminal illegal alien . The truth is we already

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have 800,000 illegal

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aliens in Florida right now . That's a problem . The

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place to start , though , is with all the seminal

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illegal aliens that are already in the criminal

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justice system . There are hundreds , if not

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hundreds , of thousands . That's who needs

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to be targeted by the state in the meantime , until we

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win the White House . Okay .

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Another thing I wanted to talk about was

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term limits . What's your position on

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term limits ?

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Term limits . It's probably the biggest

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contrast between me , my opponent in this race

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. I'm extremely pro term

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limit . I have probably the strongest

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position on term limits . I believe every elected official

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in the United States , and the president

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all the way down to city councils , should be term

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limited . And so when I was in Tallahassee in the state legislature

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every year I ran a bill , filed

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a bill , to term limit somebody with

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every school board members , county commissioners

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et cetera . My opponent , of course , is a staunch

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opponent of term limits . He doesn't believe term

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limits should exist for anyone . When he was in the state

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legislature many years ago he fought the term

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limit . I mentioned that last in 1992

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. He continues to fight term limits

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for US Congress . He probably doesn't believe

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the president should be term limited , proud to be

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supported in this race by the United States Term

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limits , the biggest term limit organization

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in the country . They're an opponent of Mr

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Webster who is just believe people should

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be career politicians . Of course he served 44

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continuous years in political office and

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hasn't had a real private sector job in decades

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, so it sort of that . That's the background

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explanation of why he doesn't believe in term limits . And

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what about term limits for the Supreme Court ? I

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do believe that Supreme Court justices should also

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be term limited . The founding fathers , of course

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, debated that . They came upon the conclusion

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that they wanted them insulated . I think that you

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can term limit and insulate

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them . I think they should be insulated . I think they should be

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independent of the power

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of government

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so they can make independent decisions and think freely

8:43

.

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Also , each arm limited to there's no

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reason that we can defend it . There's a 10 or 15 year limit

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. That would be reasonable 20

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years . Some place in there we would be able

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to get younger judges

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on the Supreme Court . And what

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is your position that some people have taken about wanting

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to pack the court with more justices ?

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Well , I think that's completely and totally insane

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. It's also wildly unpopular with the public

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, which is why the Democrats have backed away from it

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. They sort of ratchet that up every

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time we put something good on the court

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, like a Gorsuch or whoever , and then they

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back away . So so far there's been no

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serious effort towards it . Even

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the majority of Democrats at this point are against

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it . But we on the right

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and the Republicans know it's totally

9:26

insane . We destroyed the integrity

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of the court system and our justice system

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, and so we're staunchly opposed and I am too

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.

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Let's go over to a different topic

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. Talk about election fraud . You think

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there was election fraud in the last election 100%

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documented evidence very

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clear .

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You know varying states in different states

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, varying amounts in different states . Some states

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there was a little bit more some a little bit less

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, and most people in the election system will tell you there's

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always fraud . The question is , how much fraud is

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there's enough to turn an election ? I

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do believe . In Georgia they stole

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the election . It was a 10,000

10:00

vote disparity out of millions

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and millions of votes . I think it's three or four million

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votes cast in the state . It came down to

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10,000 . There's already documented evidence that

10:09

Fulton County and some of the urban counties they've

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never tracked the ballots . They have limited

10:13

mail-in ballots . In fact , I went

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to Georgia one month

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after two months after the presidential contest to

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work with the Republican National Lawyers Association

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volunteering for the Senate runoffs

10:24

, and I worked the phone room . All I got

10:26

was phone calls from people saying , hey

10:28

, I received two or three ballots

10:30

in the mail , or there's ballots coming into

10:32

my mailbox that are assigned

10:35

to names of people who have never even lived in this

10:37

home , and so they flooded mail-in

10:39

ballots out to the public , knowing that

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it would yield X amount of votes back

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from certain areas that are prone

10:45

to vote Democrat , and so that was

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one example of the sort of voter

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fraud you saw in 2020 election . Difficult

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to prove on the back end , though Very difficult

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unless you have a state legislature that's

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completely and totally committed to investigating

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it and holding open investigations . We

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saw that the only state in the country

11:03

that took it seriously enough to do an audit

11:05

was Arizona , and the audit failed

11:07

miserably , which , to be completely honest

11:09

, I don't blame them . It's very , very difficult

11:11

to do an audit when there's millions and millions of votes

11:13

and you have uncooperative local

11:16

government officials who were essentially

11:18

counter suing them in the legislature

11:20

the entirety of time to inhibit the

11:22

effective audit of the Maricopa County election

11:25

, and so that's what happened there . But it's just very

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difficult . But we do know that there's

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, for me , significant evidence showing

11:32

interference on at least two or three of the states

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, and there's

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no way we could stop that , for the next election is there

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. Well , unfortunately , at this point it's up to

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the individual states . It's impossible

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for us as Floridians to stop voter

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fraud in Philadelphia . I mean , we can volunteer in

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private capacities as a chairman

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of Republican Party and as a lawyer involved with different

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organizations , I can go up there and help

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. But in terms of passing state laws

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to change and secure the elections , it's

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really up to the Pennsylvanians , which is bad

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, but we're really in a bad position that way .

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Election . Broad topic that really bothers

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me is the ballot harvesting

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that's happened in several states . Is

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there any way that there's a spotlight on that

12:12

, to reduce that from happening again ? Or

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that's the law ?

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Sure , yeah , there's definitely the possibility

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of federal possible potential involvement

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in that area , like , for example , just yesterday

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. Argentina chose a right wing Republican

12:24

. Yesterday it was great 45 million

12:26

people voted . They got the entire thing done

12:28

in one hour , one hour after the polls were closed . 45

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million people and no allegations of voter fraud . They

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could run a much more secure election . In some

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countries we run an absolutely terrible system

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because of what you just described ballot

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harvesting and mail-in ballots . Those

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two items alone are along the

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length and longevity of an election

12:46

, which therefore increases

12:49

necessarily the potential for

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third-party actors to get involved in commenced

12:53

fraud and to mess with the vote . So by

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reducing ballot harvesting and

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mail-in voting you're going to get more secure

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any election . So , federal government

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, I think , looking at all these countries in the world

13:04

, the federal election system . They

13:07

actually do hand counting too . Isn't that crazy ? Wait

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a minute .

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Hand counting and they got all

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the votes counted one day .

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Yeah , I think what they do is they limit the amount of

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elections that people are voting on

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. So , for example , we get a ballot and it's 40 different

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items . You get 30 , 60 different things

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. There's as far more limited . So it could just be

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a presidential contest , something like that . So

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it's either A or B , pretty much . It

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makes it much easier , quicker , faster

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. The system is much more

13:33

efficient . France is the same way . France

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gets their election done on

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a Sunday once the cycle one

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day , voting in all the ballots room within

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an hour .

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So would it be a good idea to eliminate

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all of this early voting ? Your voting

13:48

places are open for two weeks for the

13:50

election .

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It would greatly , greatly limit it . I

13:53

mean , ideally , yeah , you would have one day voting

13:55

. But the truth is , I think the best

13:57

first step is to begin limitation

13:59

. I think 10 days is way too long . Maybe

14:01

a few days is okay

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and then see how the public reacts

14:06

to that and then hopefully bring it to one day . But one

14:08

day voting should be ultimately the standard . There's

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no reason not to .

14:12

It was the first

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time I voted . I mean , you voted on election

14:16

day , that's it . Or you didn't vote , and

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maybe if you were sick , disabled

14:20

and firm , you could get a mail

14:23

in ballot . That had to be there at

14:25

the morning elections for the election

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day .

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Yeah , we , you know , even when I was younger

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, we had to have an excuse . You had to have

14:33

a valid reason to vote absentee

14:35

or mail and then they got rid

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of no excuse or excuse

14:39

voting and went to no excuse and basically

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made it anybody can vote anytime

14:44

they want for weeks and weeks going into

14:46

an election . I think that's bad for

14:49

the system because , like I said earlier , anytime

14:51

you keep the election open longer you're

14:53

going to necessarily make it less secure

14:55

, but it's when you allow

14:57

mail in ballots for people who live a mile

15:00

from the voting precinct . It

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becomes more prone for those ballots

15:04

to be harvested . Basically , up with that way .

15:06

Yeah , it seems to me , when you allow

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ballot harvesting what we have now , someone

15:11

could take those ballots to a location

15:14

, open them up , duplicate ballots

15:16

, modern copying machines and

15:18

substitute for ballots for the ones

15:21

that were harvested .

15:22

Yeah , the two trends are obviously

15:24

necessarily for related , which

15:26

is that you mail out a ballot

15:28

for everybody , for example , like Washington

15:30

State universal ballots , millions

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of ballots go out , and then those lists of

15:34

all the voters are given to ballot harvesters

15:37

and they go to each of those houses and knock on their doors

15:39

Perfectly legal , by the way , for them to

15:41

knock on your door and say I know that you received

15:43

a ballot this week , we're interested in chatting

15:45

with you about that ballot , and blah , blah , blah . They

15:48

do it in Arizona too , which is insane . The Republicans

15:50

haven't closed that yet , but that's what they do , that

15:52

really seems like a terrible way

15:54

to run a fair election .

15:56

Now let's talk about the differences between

15:59

you and your opponent , Daniel Webster

16:01

. Webster's been in office , it seems , forever

16:03

. Frankly , I don't know what committee he's on . I

16:05

think he's done very little . And what

16:07

would you do for us here in Central

16:09

Florida ?

16:10

Sure . Well , the biggest difference based

16:12

on our policies . Number one is reform

16:14

of government . I believe in term limits . He's staunchly

16:17

opposed to passing term

16:19

limits . He believes there should be no term limits

16:21

. He served 44 years in office . I have

16:23

not done nearly that and

16:25

I've never been a full-time politician . I've always been

16:27

a turnier , worked in some

16:29

capacity . I've never been a full-time

16:31

government guy . He's collected $3.5

16:34

million from government over the last

16:36

44 years $3.5 million

16:38

. I have not , and so I

16:40

don't plan to be in Congress very long because

16:42

I believe in term limits . That's what I'm going to be

16:44

there fighting for . Other major policy

16:47

decisions are the funding of a corrupt

16:49

government . He's voted for the debt ceiling

16:51

. He's voted for fightants budgets

16:53

. He's voted for a lot of the worst parts

16:55

of this government that's operating essentially

16:58

terror in our country and

17:00

against American families . I would be a member of

17:02

the Freedom Caucus , which means I'd be voting for

17:04

less government , less taxes , less spending

17:06

on day one . He's never

17:08

been a member of the Freedom Caucus . He's not a real conservative

17:11

. He's considered one of the more moderate or liberal republic

17:13

in the legislature and the Congress , that

17:15

is , and so we would be completely opposed

17:17

on that issue too . You know . The truth of the matter

17:20

is the energy that a congressman would

17:22

display were very different . I mean , I've

17:24

always been somebody that did the maximum

17:26

amount they could in the state legislature , file

17:28

the most amount of bills , fought the biggest fight , especially

17:30

when it came to the COVID tyranny . Webster

17:33

somebody sits in the backbench , just doesn't really

17:35

do much , doesn't say much , you know

17:37

, and essentially doesn't really get a lot

17:39

done . He's on some very insignificant

17:41

committees . He's not a leader on any issue

17:43

. He's in fact he's never even passed a

17:45

bill , a standalone bill , in the Congress

17:47

. But of course those aren't his goals . To

17:49

be fair , his goal is to just collect $175,000

17:53

a year , government health care , a nice big

17:55

fat pension , and just enjoy essentially

17:57

his retirement within the Congress . So if you got

17:59

, elected to the Congress .

18:01

That's a two-year term . How long would you

18:03

plan to stay ?

18:04

I would probably stay somewhere between

18:06

two and four terms , potentially

18:09

five . I mean , I would really want to leave at the right

18:11

time . Right , if we had a Republican president , some

18:14

good legislation was moving , it

18:16

would not be probably the time I want

18:18

to jump out . You know , obviously this is a

18:20

strong Republican seat , so there's no

18:23

chance that a Democrat would pick up the seats

18:25

. Consider one of the more Republican seats of

18:27

the 2020 Republican seats

18:29

in the state of Florida and in all of Congress your 28

18:31

seats total 20 Republican . This is one of

18:33

the safest Republican , mostly because of how conservative

18:36

like in some other counties are , and so

18:38

I'd probably want to leave . Just you

18:40

know , after I feel like we've done a good job for a few terms

18:42

, move on , run for something else .

18:45

And let's take a quick break here and listen

18:47

to a Alzheimer's tip from Dr Craig

18:49

Curtis . Dr Curtis , what is the biggest

18:52

limitation for Alzheimer's

18:54

?

18:54

research in America , the biggest limitation

18:57

for Alzheimer's research is our shortage

19:00

of patients that get involved in

19:02

clinical research trials . For example

19:04

, a couple of years ago a report

19:06

came out that showed there were approximately

19:09

25,000 open

19:11

positions for patients with

19:13

Alzheimer's disease to get involved in research

19:15

, yet only about 7 to

19:17

8,000 of those positions went

19:19

filled for the year . So every year

19:21

we run a deficit

19:23

in the United States in filling

19:25

these clinical trials , which in turn

19:28

slows our overall ability

19:30

to complete the clinical trials .

19:32

With over 20 years of experience studying brain

19:34

health , Dr Curtis's goal is to educate

19:37

the village's community on how to live a longer , healthier

19:39

life . To learn more , visit his website

19:41

craigcurtismdcom , or call

19:43

352-500-5252

19:47

to attend a free seminar . What do you think ? A younger

19:49

person ?

19:50

like yourself Russ .

19:51

Well , what I've found is that , you know , age

19:53

sometimes can be very relative . I know

19:55

people in their 60s , 70s or even 80s

19:57

who have far more energy than younger people . The

20:00

person , the truth of the matter about Webster's

20:02

yes , he is in his mid-70s , but more importantly

20:04

, he's just a low-energy guy . I mean

20:06

, he is just not a go-getter . I think he

20:08

was probably that way even when he was in his 40s

20:11

. To a certain extent he's just

20:13

. He likes to just relax , hang out . He

20:15

doesn't really believe that this country's in a crisis

20:18

and that we're at a crossroads and that we

20:20

need serious action and we need the Republican

20:22

Party should fight as hard as the left

20:24

wing of the Democrat Party fights . He

20:26

just thinks the middle boy system

20:28

of relax , you know , play defense

20:31

, just enjoy life , everything

20:33

will work out , we don't really need to do much in the Republican

20:35

Party and everything will be just fine

20:38

and dandy . I think that attitude speaks

20:41

to somebody who's old and spirit , and

20:43

so I think that's the biggest problem . I'm

20:45

the opposite , of course . I believe that this country is

20:47

in a serious crisis that

20:49

even good actions

20:52

from the Republican Party aren't going to be enough to save

20:54

it . We really need complete and total reform

20:56

of the federal government in order to allow

20:58

this Republic to survive . I think that

21:01

what the Democrats are doing now is quite literally

21:03

striking at the foundation of

21:05

all Western civilization , questioning

21:07

gender and family and truth itself

21:10

. Idea of sovereignty , borders

21:12

, good and evil just

21:14

is quite literally on the line here .

21:16

So when you talk about good and evil . Can

21:18

we talk for a second about the situation

21:21

in Ukraine and Israel ? What are your positions

21:23

there ?

21:23

Well , they're a little divergent for

21:25

both of those countries . As much as I think that

21:28

what's happening in Ukraine is absolutely evil

21:30

and awful and terrible , the truth

21:32

is , I don't believe that the United States can , in an effective

21:35

way , play any meaningful

21:37

role there in helping or protecting

21:39

Ukraine . I think Ukraine's got just too many problems

21:41

and the conflict is sadly

21:43

not something that we're going to be able to help with

21:46

. Nor should , and I think we need to really focus

21:48

the pragmatic way on

21:50

the conflicts that

21:52

we can solve , and I just don't think Ukraine

21:55

is one of them . So therefore , I don't believe

21:57

in giving more money to Ukraine . Israel

21:59

, on the other hand I think both

22:02

parties I think most people have agreed

22:04

that Israel is a very

22:06

strong ally of ours that we need to fully

22:09

support , and so I support the budget bill that was

22:11

passed two weeks ago , the spending bill

22:13

to give them additional

22:15

aid , and I also stand by four

22:17

billion dollars that's in our budget already to

22:19

help Israel , because they are a strongest ally in

22:22

a volatile region in the Middle East that is

22:25

universally opposed to us other than a

22:27

few countries , and so I

22:29

think we should stand with Israel and continue

22:32

to support Israel and Taiwan

22:34

and Taiwan is a unique situation

22:36

. Right now , of course , they're not really asking for anything

22:39

from us , but they're an important

22:41

ally and they are an ally .

22:42

Free country in the area where

22:45

we need more allies .

22:47

Right . No , I'm staunchly opposed to China bullying

22:49

them , invading them , doing anything like that . But

22:52

we need to announce that the China would make that part

22:54

of our policy towards China , that we wouldn't

22:56

want to have a decline

22:58

rate relationship we have with them if they were going

23:01

to invade Taiwan , something along

23:03

those lines and project strength

23:05

. But we don't know what China's going to do there

23:07

. They've really not shown their hands , so yeah

23:10

, something goes .

23:11

A few pandas make me happy .

23:13

Yeah , the panda diplomacy days are

23:15

over . I think we're not going to see

23:17

much . Can't provide too much good

23:19

faith in China when they only

23:21

send pandas but continue to leave

23:23

the invasion of Taiwan on the table as a potential

23:25

policy option .

23:26

But , anthony , if someone wants to support

23:28

your candidacy , how do they get a hold

23:30

of your campaign office ?

23:32

Well , the number one thing they could always do is shoot

23:35

me a text or give me a call directly on my

23:37

cell phone , 352-455-2928

23:41

, and also a line to my law firm

23:43

. That's my direct cell phone , so

23:45

they can call me at any time and , of course

23:47

, if they want to check out the website , it's sabatini4congresscom

23:52

. That's sabatini4congresscom

23:54

spelled out . Of course , we're on every social media

23:56

platform , from Truth and Facebook and Twitter

23:59

and Instagram at Anthony Sabatini

24:01

, to check out the website more and get involved

24:04

. We're always looking to bring more volunteers in . We

24:06

have dozens already out there knocking doors

24:08

talking to voters in West Orange , sumter

24:10

and Lake County , and we , of course

24:13

, want to win more support from the

24:15

voters of the area .

24:16

Have you been invited to talk to the villages

24:18

? Republican club .

24:19

Correct and I've spoken to them a couple times

24:22

Some of the different clubs , trump clubs

24:24

, of course . You know there's quite a few here , so I haven't spoken

24:26

to them all yet , but that's my goal and I

24:28

hope that they invite . You know , some

24:30

of them are true conservatives and they've already

24:33

rallied it behind my campaign and

24:35

some are , you know , anti-donald

24:38

Trump , and that's what I've heard in some of the

24:40

clubs , and you know they don't really like Trump

24:42

very much and so therefore , they don't like me very

24:44

much . They're more for Webster . So we'll see

24:46

who those clubs are too , and you know I'd be happy

24:48

to come speak to them if they didn't .

24:50

Trump certainly has political

24:52

problems with these weaponized lawsuits

24:54

against them . They may not have merit . I'll go

24:57

back to one thing you said . You said you wanted

24:59

to eliminate potment of education . Okay

25:01

, it doesn't have a great value . Are there any other

25:03

federal potments that you think would

25:05

have a great value or need ?

25:07

substantial reorganization . Actually

25:09

, you know , all the agencies

25:11

have lofty titles but when you look

25:13

at what they actually do , they do very little . So the

25:15

Department of Energy , for example , is

25:18

not necessary , it's not important

25:20

, it's silly , it's ridiculous . I

25:22

would dissolve that one too and I would take the functions

25:25

of a national energy policy and just

25:27

put that in the Department of Interior or

25:29

somewhere else where it's more fitting

25:31

. Because the truth is like these agencies

25:34

were just an excuse to create more government jobs

25:36

and more concentration of power in the executive

25:39

, and that's just . And the Congress , and it's just ridiculous

25:41

. So that's another department that

25:43

I would . I would slow stop . But

25:45

the truth of the matter is , as much as you could close down

25:47

these agencies , the most important

25:49

, most significant reforms are within the agencies

25:52

. So whether you cut the amount of

25:54

cabinet beds in half and agencies

25:56

in half doesn't really mean much if you continue

25:58

to allow them to fester and grow at the rate that

26:00

they're growing . So we got to slash and cut . You

26:03

know you can cut 20 , 30% of DOJ

26:05

right now just because of so much of the litigation

26:07

they bring against private businesses is frivolous

26:10

and silly . And the you know

26:12

Department of Environmental Protection ? I wouldn't

26:14

dissolve the entirety of it , but I would

26:16

probably slash it by half and

26:18

bring it to a real focus on

26:21

bad actors versus small businesses

26:23

who don't do anything wrong , who they just torment

26:25

. You know it's absolutely out

26:28

of control what they do . Anybody that's

26:30

interested in the subject should read Obama's

26:32

Enforcer , which is a book about Eric Holder

26:35

, who's the head of the Department of Justice and what he

26:37

did . You know heritage of the Bush Department

26:39

of Justice and within seven or eight years he

26:41

had turned an agency that was essentially

26:43

non-political and focused on a real mission of

26:45

stopping bad crime a significant

26:48

crime into a hyperpartisan

26:50

agency that looked like it was acting as

26:52

if it was just the White House , the White

26:54

House domestic policy agenda

26:56

. It was just about moving a political

26:58

viewpoint , getting political actors that

27:00

are affiliated with Obama into more powerful

27:03

positions . It's a fascinating book .

27:05

How do we get rid of the bad players that

27:07

were put in place and protected by someone

27:10

who's put into a political position that can't

27:12

be fired ?

27:13

Yeah . So actually it's interesting Not only

27:15

do we have to reform

27:18

the underlying law that allows so many

27:20

protections within federal government , but

27:22

Congress needs to use the Holder

27:24

Amendment , which means you can quite literally pass

27:26

a budget that defund certain positions Like

27:29

, for example , right now , alexander

27:31

Mayorkas , the DHS Secretary , who will

27:33

is creating an open

27:36

border policy and he needs to go . You

27:38

can bring his salary down to $0

27:41

. So you can effectively fire anybody

27:43

you want . Under the current rules of Congress

27:45

, you just have too many liberal

27:47

Republicans like Dan Webster that are afraid to

27:49

do that and don't support those significant

27:51

reforms . So by replacing those

27:54

lame , do-nothing Republicans with

27:56

actual conservative-acting

27:58

Republicans like myself , you'll find

28:00

that it'll be much easier to have

28:03

a Congress . That will eliminate people

28:05

in the Congress , in the government Great .

28:07

Anthony , thanks for joining us today .

28:09

I appreciate it . Thanks , mike , appreciate it , it was great

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