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Hey, Tricia.

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Hello.

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Wow. Here we are. This is the

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famous threesome. Here

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we are. The three of us together, studying the

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Bible together. I think

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that's just so much fun. Yeah, it's a.

2:08

Great way to start. Great way to start the day.

2:10

Just a little Bible study together.

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And it's also fun. You know, I was out a little

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bit. And so, uh,

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a number of things have come up. Questions

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have happened, people sent them in.

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We might as well deal with it and

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try and, you know, get the spindle

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reduced a little bit or, uh, empty

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the inbox a little bit, don't you think? There's

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so many, so many questions.

2:32

Tricia, how do you keep up with all these? Uh.

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Not as well as I should. Or

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as well as I wish, I wish I would.

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Wow.

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Well, you know, these are fun,

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and they're really. Some of them are very unique questions

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we've never seen before.

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Yeah, I was excited to see some of these. And

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there are questions that I read them and I said that's a

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great question.

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Yeah.

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That's great is that I don't know.

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I can't wait to find out the answer.

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Well good.

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I'm so glad. Let's well, let's get started.

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All right. Okay. I'll go right to questions. Our

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first question is from David in Idaho. He

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listens to KMBC and

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says, I know that repentance is very important,

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but if we return to our sinful behavior

3:12

just once and even briefly

3:14

in spite of our efforts, that doesn't seem

3:16

like genuine repentance. Can you

3:18

please address this? Because there are some sinful habits

3:20

that are hard to break. Uh.

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It seems to me that it's not just habit

3:26

that, uh, we've seen the enemy,

3:29

and the enemy is us. Mm. Uh,

3:31

that there's something called the flesh. Mhm.

3:35

And that's why we keep going back to sinful

3:37

patterns. And that's how the

3:39

sinful patterns start. I

3:41

don't think we can measure repentance

3:44

by whether or not we go back.

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To sin. Uh, now,

3:49

I've watched evil with our kids

3:51

when they were babies. I bet you were

3:53

like this, too. Tricia, what do you do?

3:57

Uh, when your baby

3:59

messes up. You know, you

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change that diaper. But what happens if they mess

4:03

the diaper again?

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You change it again. You

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just keep changing it until they're potty trained.

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Even then, you

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know there's something else. Well, yeah, there's a few

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mess ups potentially there too, while they learn.

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Well, that's.

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What strikes me in scriptures there.

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Scripture that you point to people. Well, it.

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Seems like.

4:23

That we need to remember that if we confess

4:25

our sins, he is faithful and just

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to forgive us our sins and cleanse us from

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all unrighteousness. This is not this

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is not a salvation verse so

4:33

much as it is a daily life

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verse.

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It's a fellowship verse.

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It's a fellowship verse. Right? And there's a difference.

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I think that we need to be aware to

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be keep in mind between our salvation,

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which is permanent and unchangeable,

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and our fellowship with God, which

4:49

is prone

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to to change depending on our behavior,

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not because he changes, but because

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we change.

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Yeah. So confession the verse that

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you cited first.

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John, first John one nine.

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Uh, the Greek word there for confesses

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homology. And what

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that means is to say

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the same thing. It means to

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agree. And if we agree

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with God about our sin, he

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will cleanse us so that we

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can restore fellowship with him.

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Uh, that's sort of like the spiritual

5:21

diaper change that we need, however.

5:24

When we sin again. It's not like we sin

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with a high hand, demanding God's grace.

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As Romans six says, we should

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not do however,

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God knows where but dust.

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He realizes how frail we are.

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He paid an infinite price to redeem

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us. The blood of the Messiah, Jesus.

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And he will cleanse us from all

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sin and restore fellowship with

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us. That's the thing that we need to remember.

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I think when we see the word

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repentance, by the way, so often repentance

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is really something

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that has to do with coming to know Jesus.

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And, uh, the Bible calls us to have

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faith in him. And

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to repent from our old path

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to change our mind. That's a word

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for repentance. And in the

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book of acts, and usually in

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the context there, there are two

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sides of one coin. We

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change our mind about Jesus. That's repentance,

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and turn and put our trust in him.

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We stop trusting what we used to trust,

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and we've changed our mind about Jesus, and

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now we've put our trust in him. And

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so then to put that

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into the first John one nine category

6:33

of fellowship, forgiveness, I think that

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that's what messes us up.

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So how do we not get discouraged?

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If you feel like I'm just doing the same sin

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over and over.

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I would keep reading verses about how God

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restores us as far as the east

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is from the West. Uh, you

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know what? What God does is when he forgives

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us, he forgives us completely. When

6:54

he restores fellowship, he restores fellowship completely.

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And not that God can actually

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forget because he knows everything. But

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what he does is that

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every time we sin, even though we keep

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remembering that we send this way before

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it's it's a fresh start with God. It's

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a new thing.

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So it's and I think that part of it is

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practicing our spiritual

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disciplines for fellowship. It's

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like practicing the piano or any

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instrument or an exercise

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regime. You may think, well, I just I keep at

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this and I don't see any change and I'm still making the

7:26

same mistakes. Well, quitting

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doesn't make you better. What you

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need to do is to keep on practicing,

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keep on exercising, keep

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on playing, and

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then you really will get better. And that's keep

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on repenting of whatever it is that you've

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is, you're struggling with and also

7:44

and then move forward toward obedience.

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I think, uh, crucial I think spiritual

7:48

disciplines are I'm glad you mentioned that

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reading the Bible, praying, uh,

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other spiritual disciplines as

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well, uh, sometimes

7:57

choosing not to speak at a certain setting

8:00

all the.

8:00

Time, turning off Facebook. Yeah.

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These are disciplines that we might

8:04

follow. God

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uses disciplines to grow us

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in those areas, not discipline, but

8:10

spiritual disciplines, spiritual practices

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that we don't read the Bible because we

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get brownie points with God. We read the Bible because

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we want to walk closer with him. That's an important

8:19

discipline. And what will happen?

8:21

For example, it might be a discipline if there's

8:23

a particular area of sin. Go find

8:25

every verse of Scripture about that sin

8:28

and memorize them and work

8:30

on them. And you know what? God's going to enable

8:33

us through the power of His Word, to

8:35

be transformed so that sin becomes

8:37

less prevalent, so that the

8:39

the turnaround that we wanted is,

8:42

is going to actually come about because

8:44

God's empowering us through those,

8:46

those spiritual disciplines. Okay.

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All right. Thank you. I hope that's encouraging.

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If you're out there wondering, you know, thinking

8:53

I just don't see any change. Um, I

8:55

hope that's encouraging for you and gives you some practical

8:57

steps, some things that you can do to continue

8:59

to grow in your faith in Jesus.

9:02

Uh, next question.

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We'll go into, like, creation

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stuff, okay? Jamie wrote

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on Facebook and says, I'm currently studying

9:12

Genesis. And as I reread Adam

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and Eve's story, the question I had

9:16

was, Did God create Eve to

9:18

be Adam's wife or was she created?

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Um, I guess just as a helper. And then

9:24

she became Adam's wife. Or was

9:26

it a little of both?

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I'm going to just go right to the text, because

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when it tells the story of

9:33

the creation of the woman. It

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says that God brought all the

9:38

animals. Uh,

9:41

before him and Adam.

9:43

And he named him. Right. Mhm. Uh,

9:46

which always makes me think of the old Bob Dylan

9:48

song. God gave names. Adam. The

9:51

man gave name to all the animals, right?

9:53

Yes. Yeah. But but

9:55

the the reason for it

9:58

is the Lord God said

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it to start that whole process.

10:02

It's not good for the man to

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be alone. I will make a helper

10:06

to him as his complement,

10:09

someone that's fitting

10:11

for him. That sounds to me

10:13

like God is saying he needs

10:15

a spouse, a wife.

10:18

A full partner. And then

10:21

there's no one found. No

10:23

helper was found among the animals as

10:25

his complement. I think that may

10:27

have been to show the man. Yeah.

10:30

It's not enough to get a pet, you know.

10:32

Right. You actually need an

10:35

equal, uh, a full

10:37

complement, a full partner.

10:39

And then, uh, he creates

10:41

the woman as that partner.

10:44

Uh, and it says when it says helper.

10:47

Uh, that's one of the things that I

10:49

think people misunderstand. Don't you think, Eva?

10:51

Yeah. People get all fuzzed up about this

10:53

saying, oh, that means, you know, the

10:56

Bible is anti-woman and it

10:58

makes women less than men and blah,

11:00

blah, blah, and they get all mad. Obviously,

11:03

they're getting all mad because they really haven't read the Bible.

11:05

Uh.

11:06

Because the man I mean, they're camping

11:08

on one verse here, but the.

11:09

Word helper, I.

11:10

Mean, well, listen, what it's if

11:12

you read the scriptures, who is our helper? Really?

11:14

What is the main way that the word helper is used?

11:17

Laws are helping.

11:18

Lord. Yes.

11:19

Psalm 46 one right. Is our.

11:20

Helper right? I mean, the predominant way

11:22

the word helper is used is in relation to God's

11:25

relationship to us. Yeah. And so I think

11:27

for women to be called to be,

11:30

you know, given that role, doesn't mean that you're

11:32

inferior, but it means that you're

11:34

made exactly to need. Yeah.

11:36

It's the one who comes to our aid when he comes

11:38

to when we need it most, we need it most.

11:40

That's a that's, uh, that's what a helper

11:42

is. And so I like

11:45

it's the idea of a partner in help. Mm hmm.

11:47

Uh, anyway, so I think it's

11:49

pretty clear that that's the creation of marriage,

11:51

because then it says at the end of

11:53

it, the the writer. I think

11:56

that's Moses who writes here. I believe it's Moses.

11:58

Uh, but at the end, the narrator

12:01

jumps in and describes

12:03

the creation of marriage. This is why

12:05

a man leaves his father and mother and bonds with

12:07

his wife, and they become one flesh.

12:10

Both man and his wife were

12:12

naked and yet felt no shame. So

12:14

this clearly is the creation of

12:16

marriage. That's right. Here in

12:19

Genesis 224, uh,

12:21

as the culmination of this story. So the

12:23

answer is pretty simple. Uh, why

12:26

did God created Eve? Yes. To be

12:28

Adam's wife, that was the intention. And

12:30

it becomes the paradigm, the role

12:32

model for humanity

12:34

for the rest of time. All right.

12:36

Great. Thank you. Thanks for that question,

12:38

Jamie.

12:39

Yep. Uh, we're going to take a break

12:42

here. And when we come back, we're going to,

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uh, take more of your questions

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that you've sent in. Tricia did a great job.

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We've got about 9000 email questions

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right here, and, uh, maybe

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a few less, but a lot of them. So we're

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going to do our best to get through them. These are your questions

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century. Welcome

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back to this special all mailbag,

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all the time edition of Open Line. No calls

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today. We're just taking the questions

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you've sent in with me today. I'm Michael

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Ray. With me today is Tricia McMillan.

14:19

She's the producer of Open Line. She's put the

14:21

mailbag together. Every Dolnick is here with

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me. She's a professor at Moody Bible

14:25

Institute teaching there, and

14:27

also contributor to

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the Moody Bible Commentary

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and the Moody Handbook of Messianic Prophecy.

14:34

But most importantly, she's my favorite Bible teacher.

14:37

We studied the Bible together. Now, how

14:39

do we do it every day when we read the Bible? All right.

14:41

So it's probably not as formal as some people might be

14:43

picturing. We're sitting around the counter

14:45

in our kitchen drinking coffee,

14:48

and we're each reading our Bible, whatever

14:50

we're studying at the time. Like, I just finished

14:52

the second Chronicles and you're reading

14:54

whatever. And then as I read and I have some

14:56

question or something, you know, I'm

14:59

an Isaiah, whatever you're reading.

15:01

You're reading something different about the same thing. Yeah,

15:03

that's what I'm doing.

15:04

Right. Yeah, yeah. And then I'll say, oh, look at this verse

15:06

or what do you think about this? Or sometime I'll say, hey,

15:08

Bible answer guy. What does this mean.

15:11

Yeah. So yeah, that's how we study. But we do it every

15:13

day. Yeah. Um, or.

15:14

I'll say, oh, look at this. This is kind

15:16

of interesting. This verse has never been in the Bible

15:18

before. Right. And how.

15:21

How long? Out of curiosity, how long

15:23

do you guys sit there and study together?

15:25

Oh, it depends on the day.

15:27

Depends on the day sometimes.

15:29

Busy day.

15:30

Yeah. Busy day. About an hour. Yeah. Yeah.

15:32

Okay.

15:33

And you just work that in in the morning before you do

15:35

everything.

15:36

First thing you do before you open your mail or check

15:38

your messages or anything.

15:40

Okay. But you know what? Once you open your mail or

15:42

you check your messages, it just becomes rabbit

15:45

trails here and there and here and there.

15:47

And pretty soon you go, oh, look, it's 9:00. Yeah. I haven't gotten

15:49

anything read.

15:50

Yeah, yeah. So the thing that I

15:52

discovered, like for today, we had early morning

15:54

meetings and I

15:56

had to get up really early to

15:59

make that happen. So we were up at about

16:01

five today okay. So that

16:03

we could.

16:03

It's like our friend.

16:04

We could have our.

16:05

Time. Our friend, our friend Larry says, work

16:07

it back in order to have to know

16:09

when you need to get up to read the Bible

16:11

every day. So you think about where you have to leave

16:13

the house, then work back to what?

16:15

Here's how long you.

16:16

Need to have to study.

16:18

To make coffee. Yeah, now I need

16:20

this much time to study. And so that's what time I

16:22

need to get up. Yeah, yeah.

16:24

Okay, so the reason I wanted to talk

16:26

about that is that's the question. It's

16:29

not a it's not on your list of questions, but

16:31

when I do live

16:34

audiences um. With

16:36

them asking the questions. I often

16:38

will take some questions. Just

16:41

people will ask personal questions before

16:43

the program.

16:44

Right off the air.

16:44

Yeah, off the air. And that's one of the main questions

16:47

that I get is when do you and Eva

16:49

study together? And I think that's kind

16:51

of interesting that that people want

16:53

to know. Okay. You keep talking about reading the Bible with Eve

16:55

in the morning. We want to know about how

16:57

you do that. Right. So. Okay. So there

16:59

you have it. Well, let's let's go back to other

17:02

questions.

17:02

All right. Our next question is from Carina

17:05

on Facebook. Did God create

17:07

other people or did we all descend

17:10

from Adam and Eve? I had a friend

17:12

who said Cain, Abel and Seth did

17:14

not marry their siblings to procreate.

17:17

Well. Well,

17:21

from what the document says, which is, I

17:23

think our best, our best source of information,

17:25

that's that's even.

17:26

Oh, show me the document.

17:27

Show me the document. It says there is

17:29

no mention of creating other

17:31

people besides Adam and Eve.

17:34

So I would pretty much go

17:36

with that idea that those were the people.

17:38

And, uh, but

17:40

but they did have other children, and I think

17:42

some of those other children would have been

17:45

ultimately the wives of

17:47

of the sons that are named. And

17:49

it's not the same as it is today

17:51

in the sense that at that time there was

17:54

no genetic problems

17:56

from marrying within the family.

17:59

But later on we see that, God

18:01

forbid that to happen.

18:02

Now, it's interesting in Romans five when,

18:05

uh, Paul addresses the issue of

18:07

our sinfulness, he says, it's

18:09

through one man that sin entered the world.

18:13

And he seems to indicate that,

18:16

uh. We are

18:18

all related to Adam. Uh,

18:21

in Romans five. Uh, just as

18:23

sin entered the world through one man and

18:26

death through sin. In this way, death spread to

18:28

all men. Because all sinned,

18:30

we all sinned in Adam. Now some people say

18:32

he was just our representative, but it

18:34

was because he was our father that

18:37

that we're all descended from him. And that's why

18:39

we all sinned. Uh, and

18:41

therefore death reign from Adam to Moses

18:43

and so forth. Uh,

18:46

but he becomes the prototype of the coming one.

18:49

Uh, our are we are

18:51

as we're related to the Messiah. We

18:53

have new life. Uh, but,

18:56

uh, nevertheless, uh,

18:58

what we have here is, I think the idea

19:01

that Adam and Eve were the first parents.

19:03

God created them. Uh, then

19:05

that leads to the problem of. Wait

19:07

a minute. Uh, where did Cain get his wife?

19:10

Right. Uh, why

19:12

was Cain worried that people

19:14

would kill him wherever he goes? Um,

19:17

who are those other people? Well, look

19:19

at.

19:20

Look at, um, Genesis five four.

19:22

And then the days of Adam, after he became

19:24

the father of Seth, were 800

19:27

years. And he had other sons

19:29

and daughters.

19:30

Yeah. So it seems to me that

19:32

Kane. He was concerned

19:34

about younger siblings coming

19:36

after him because we don't know when

19:39

this happened or other siblings. Uh,

19:41

that would have been distressed about

19:44

what Cain did to his brother Abel. So

19:46

I think that's that one. Where did Cain find

19:48

his wife? One of his siblings? Wait, wait, what

19:50

are you saying? That's incest. If

19:52

if if it's one of his siblings. His wife,

19:55

one of his sisters. Uh, I

19:57

would say that the Bible is pretty clear that incest

19:59

is wrong. You can see that in

20:01

the book of Leviticus. Uh,

20:04

nevertheless, I

20:06

would say when you're the only ones on Earth

20:09

that's, uh, there's

20:12

no other option. And there wasn't

20:14

the kind of genetic disorders that

20:16

would make that problematic. Exactly. Because

20:18

they're so new. And then one other

20:20

aspect is they need not have

20:22

been the same, exact same age because

20:25

they if Adam live that

20:27

long and Eve lived long, then

20:29

the result would be that they were probably from,

20:32

you know, uh, different ages

20:34

and would not have been raised together

20:36

as, as brother and sister.

20:38

We even see that in really large families

20:40

in our own times. Sometimes families

20:43

have not incest, but age differences.

20:45

If there's 14 kids

20:47

in the family and the oldest child is

20:49

40 years old.

20:50

And the youngest is 20 and.

20:52

And or and or, the youngest is younger

20:54

than that, you know, so they're not even

20:56

growing up really in the same

20:58

time frame. Yeah.

20:59

Yeah. Would there be to the

21:01

incest question, would there be that,

21:04

that it was not considered

21:06

incest until it was made a law

21:08

in the law, or a

21:11

lot more things that were already understood to

21:13

be wrong that

21:15

were established, or kind of a mix of both.

21:18

I don't I don't know. Okay. Uh,

21:20

I think that by the time you have people

21:22

spreading over the earth, it became considered

21:25

inappropriate, wrong, sinful

21:27

to marry a sibling. Uh,

21:30

but on the other hand, when

21:32

you're the only ones there, you know, now,

21:34

that's not the case with Noah and

21:36

his sons, because they already had

21:38

three families. And so.

21:41

But they would be, you know, their children

21:43

that, uh, Noah's sons, children

21:45

would have probably been marrying cousins. Right.

21:48

But but but what

21:50

else have you got?

21:50

But the command that God had

21:53

given Adam and Eve was to.

21:56

Be fruitful and.

21:56

Multiply and multiply.

21:58

Yeah, yeah.

21:59

And so that was their command that they were working

22:01

with.

22:01

They had to do it. Yeah. Okay. Uh,

22:03

and the same command is given to Noah

22:06

after the flood. Be fruitful

22:08

and multiply. Mm. Uh, same

22:10

command. And, uh, when you look at

22:13

the laws in Leviticus,

22:16

uh, that in

22:18

chapter, I believe it's chapter

22:21

19 or 18.

22:24

Uh, yeah. Chapter 18. Uh,

22:27

there are all sorts of law

22:29

laws, uh, opposed

22:32

to incest. Uh,

22:35

and, and I think that that

22:38

very clearly. Uh,

22:41

says, no, don't do that. Uh,

22:43

and that's because

22:45

I think in the ancient world, it was not unusual.

22:48

Um, uh, in in the pagan practices

22:50

of Canaan, it was incest was normative.

22:53

So very, very.

22:55

Another way that they're being set apart. Yes.

22:57

Yes. If it's if

22:59

you have a minute, some time

23:01

to to look at Leviticus

23:04

18, it really gives a lot of different

23:06

scenarios of don't do this with this person

23:08

and don't do it with that person and the other person

23:10

and with her with her.

23:11

Interestingly, I think there must have even, you know,

23:14

we Moses collected the laws, but

23:16

we don't have every single law that Moses

23:18

received. He gave sampling laws

23:21

in the Pentateuch. And, uh,

23:23

I think it's interesting that you there

23:25

shouldn't be incest with a grandparent, but

23:27

there's nothing said about a father. Does that

23:29

mean that with a father, it's okay.

23:32

But of course it's not okay. It's wrong.

23:34

But Moses, he was giving

23:36

a sampling. And so all

23:38

incest is forbidden is. Is what

23:40

what the point of those laws are. Okay.

23:42

Yeah.

23:43

All right. Thank you. That

23:45

kind of went a field a little of your question,

23:48

but I was.

23:48

Anticipating the follow.

23:50

Up. Yeah, yeah. Thank you, thank

23:52

you. Next question is from Katherine,

23:55

also on Facebook. Do you think that Cain was forgiven

23:58

and that the mark was, um,

24:00

given and suffered the consequences

24:02

of a sin by being sent from the presence of God?

24:07

The mark of Cain, whether he was forgiven or not was

24:09

the mercy of God, wouldn't you say, Eva?

24:11

Yeah, because. Because he. Really. Can

24:13

you imagine the outrage of

24:15

this, of the siblings

24:17

that they that he killed Abel,

24:20

who must have been the nicest guy in the family.

24:22

Right. You killed our favorite brother.

24:24

You killed our favorite brother with you.

24:25

That's right.

24:25

Yeah. Mhm.

24:26

Now, the strange thing about this is I

24:28

don't think the question is, was he forgiven? Was

24:31

the real question we should be asking. Was he penitent?

24:34

Hmhm. And because

24:37

if he wasn't, then we know he wasn't

24:39

forgiven. If he had been penitent, I

24:41

believe he would have been forgiven.

24:43

And their clues.

24:44

Their clues. The clue to me is

24:47

that he was not penitent.

24:49

And here's why. When

24:52

God disciplines him, he

24:54

says, uh. That

24:58

you are to wander the earth. Okay?

25:01

That that's what he tells him to do. He's supposed

25:03

to wander the earth. And

25:05

this is all in Genesis four, and he says they want

25:08

to kill me. So he put the, uh,

25:10

the mark of Cain on him, and

25:12

he went out from the Lord's presence and lived in the land

25:14

of nod, East of Eden. And then

25:16

what did he do? Cain became the builder

25:19

of a city and named the city Enoch

25:21

after his son. Uh, and it

25:23

says that he went eastward and

25:25

and he went to the East of

25:27

Eden. Why is this important?

25:30

Because, first of all, he built a city.

25:32

He didn't wander, so he didn't obey the command.

25:35

And secondly, he went eastward.

25:37

And every time in the early chapters of Genesis,

25:39

when someone goes eastward, they're acting

25:41

in rebellion to God, like in Genesis 11, they go

25:43

eastward and build the Tower of Babel.

25:45

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25:48

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28:42

Andrew in Minnesota. Listens to this.

28:44

Why did God choose the

28:46

Jewish people as his chosen people?

28:49

Weren't there other nations around at the same time?

28:52

Yeah. You know,

28:54

uh, it seems like one of the problems

28:56

that the other nations had is

28:58

that they were running away from God. You

29:01

know, I mean, you just look at it. When does the choice of Israel

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actually begin? It begins

29:06

with Abraham. And what

29:08

do you have? That's in chapter 12

29:10

of Genesis. And in chapter 11.

29:13

What you have are the nations

29:16

refusing to obey God

29:18

and spread across the earth. So they go

29:20

to the plain of Shinar, which is in Babylon, the

29:22

great rebellious city. That's the beginning of

29:24

it. They build the city of Babylon with

29:27

its tower, and they

29:29

are saying, we're just not going to listen to God about spreading

29:31

over the earth. So what does he do? He confuses their

29:33

language, sends them all out. That's Babylon.

29:35

And then in Genesis 12,

29:38

what happens with Moses? With Abraham,

29:40

he, uh, he calls him

29:43

out of er of the chaldees, which is

29:45

in the Babylonian. And

29:47

brings them to the land of Israel, Zion,

29:50

and says, this is the nation I'm going to

29:52

build from then Isaac and Jacob. And

29:54

that's where the Jewish people come from. So what he was

29:56

trying to do was choose one

29:58

nation that was not going to shake their

30:00

fist at God, and instead now,

30:02

unfortunately, we, uh, we Jewish people,

30:04

we recognize we haven't done a great job, but

30:07

the idea was to take

30:09

the the light of God and bring it

30:11

to the nations through the descendants

30:13

of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. But in,

30:16

uh.

30:16

There's a.

30:17

There's a great verse, I think, that tells

30:19

us why God chose the Jewish people. Yeah,

30:21

it's in Deuteronomy. It's in

30:24

verse seven. It says, the Lord did not set his

30:26

love on you nor choose you, because

30:28

you were more in number than all the peoples,

30:31

for you were the fewest of all the peoples.

30:33

But because the Lord loved you,

30:36

and kept his oath, which he swore to

30:38

your forefathers Abraham, Isaac, and

30:40

Jacob, the Lord brought you out

30:42

and and delivered you the Lord your

30:44

God. He is God, faithful to

30:46

his covenant. So why did he choose

30:49

the Jewish people? Not because they were more

30:51

or better. They were better. It

30:53

was because he loved them. It was his

30:55

sovereign choice.

30:57

What verses were those events?

30:58

Uh, Deuteronomy seven seven and eight.

31:01

Okay, so Deuteronomy seven seven

31:03

and eight, that's God's call

31:05

of Israel after Egypt and

31:08

his special.

31:09

He's reviewing. He's reviewing.

31:10

Reviewing. Yeah. So that's

31:12

that's it. Uh, it's

31:14

it's here's what it is. God's

31:17

sovereign choice.

31:19

God's grace. That's

31:21

what it is.

31:22

Yeah, yeah. Which is.

31:23

Amazing.

31:24

Kind of the same. Now when he chooses

31:26

those to follow him.

31:27

Yeah. When if you become a believer,

31:29

you know, we're saying, oh, whosoever will

31:31

may come and we look at the, the sign

31:34

over the, the door that says that we enter the

31:36

door and it looks you look back at the door

31:38

and it says chosen before the foundation

31:40

of the world for salvation.

31:42

And so those of us who know the Lord, whether Jewish

31:44

or Gentile, if we've been chosen for

31:46

salvation, we think we made the choice

31:48

till we're in. Then we know it was God who made

31:51

the choice. Mhm.

31:52

Yeah. Um, do

31:54

does that mean Adam and Eve were not

31:56

Jewish?

31:57

Not Jewish. Jewish.

31:59

So Abraham was the first Jewish person?

32:01

Yeah. Not Noah.

32:03

Um huh. Okay. Yeah.

32:05

You know, you just do things as a kid.

32:08

As a kid going to Sunday school. You think everybody

32:10

was Jewish? Yeah, yeah.

32:11

Yeah, if they're in the Bible, they were Jewish. That's right.

32:13

In the Old Testament.

32:14

Adam and Eve, not Jewish. No.

32:16

Not Jewish. You know, uh, the Mel

32:19

Brooks, the comedian, used to do the 2000 year

32:21

old man, and he would talk about being

32:23

around with Noah, you know, and

32:25

he'd use. And he would talk with Noah. He'd use

32:28

a Yiddish accent. Probably

32:30

not accurate. Probably not accurate.

32:32

Okay. All right. Well, thank you for that question,

32:34

Andrew. Um,

32:36

Francis wrote us on Facebook and wants to

32:38

know. When the

32:40

Israelites were crossing the desert during the Exodus.

32:43

Were the Israelites covered by

32:45

the cloud of God's presence?

32:48

I think she must be concerned about sunburn.

32:51

Why?

32:52

I don't know.

32:56

It was hot walking in the desert. Maybe they

32:58

should have the cloud of God's presence over

33:00

them. But I think maybe she's thinking about

33:02

something else. What do you mean?

33:04

Exodus 14.

33:06

1313.

33:07

2122. Yeah, okay.

33:09

Exodus 13 and 14, both of you

33:11

talk about it. Uh, the,

33:13

uh, the the point of it is

33:15

that, uh, it says

33:18

they set out from Sukkot and

33:20

camped at, uh, atom

33:22

on the edge of the wilderness. Now, verse 21,

33:25

the Lord went ahead of them in a pillar

33:27

of cloud to lead them on their way

33:29

during the day, and a pillar of fire

33:31

to give them light at night so they could travel

33:33

day or night, the pillar

33:35

of cloud by day and the pillar of fire by night

33:38

never left its place in front

33:40

of the people. So there wasn't a cloud cover.

33:43

It was a cloud that led them. Okay,

33:45

not not not not

33:48

covering them. Okay, so.

33:50

If the fire is, um,

33:52

is giving them light. From

33:56

what I understand, there were lots and lots

33:58

of people. So. Is this fire really

34:00

big? Is it really high in the sky, or is it

34:02

really only giving light to those front ones who

34:04

are in? The rest are just following in the dark?

34:06

Do you know? I mean, I realize we don't know, but

34:08

I'm trying to.

34:09

Picture I think it was a, it

34:11

was a, it was a sign in the sky. It was a pillar

34:14

of fire. And and you

34:16

could see it, you know.

34:17

Okay.

34:18

Kind of picture it like lightning. You have a big

34:20

group of people. Everybody can see

34:22

the lightning. Yeah.

34:23

Yeah.

34:24

Okay. Or like fireworks at a great big

34:26

event. Yeah. You can all see the fireworks.

34:28

Okay. It's kind of like that. And the point was, it was to

34:30

show them which way they were. I think it was to show them which

34:32

way they were supposed to go, not to prevent

34:34

them from falling over rocks and

34:36

stones on the path.

34:38

Right, right. It's more you are going the right

34:40

direction. Follow me. Right. And

34:42

I'm going to lead you where you need to go.

34:44

Exactly the same thing with the same same.

34:46

Cloud, that they would have all been able

34:48

to see, that they weren't just following

34:50

the person wandering and following the person in

34:52

front of them, but they also could see, oh yeah, we're

34:54

all going the right direction. Yeah.

34:56

Which it really does negate

34:58

the old joke that we

35:00

make about Moses not willing being willing

35:02

to ask for directions. So we ended up wandering the wilderness

35:04

for 40 years. No, we knew where to go.

35:07

It's just that our disobedience kept us from

35:09

from entering. Right. Uh, and

35:11

so but they

35:13

when they wandered, they were wandering with God's direction.

35:16

Right. So. Yeah. So

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All right. Next question is from Tim on Facebook.

36:40

How should YHWH

36:43

be pronounced? Is it Jehovah

36:46

or Yahweh or something else?

36:48

It's not supposed to be pronounced. It's the unpronounceable

36:51

name of God, according to Jewish

36:53

tradition. And that's why when those

36:55

Hebrew letters you'd have of were

36:57

found, or why.

36:59

What you say again, you.

37:02

You'd. Hey, hey.

37:03

Okay.

37:04

Uh, when they're in Scripture, at

37:07

the youngest age, I was taught to say

37:09

Adonai, which means Lord.

37:12

So when you see that, you just say

37:14

Adonai, which is. And then.

37:16

And then when you're reading Hebrew, unless

37:18

you mean it, if you're just practicing when you see the

37:21

word Adonai or

37:23

you'd wave a.

37:25

Uh, you're.

37:26

You're just working on something, but you're not actually

37:28

praying. Then you're supposed to

37:30

say, uh. Somebody

37:34

like Hashim.

37:36

It just means the name.

37:37

The name. That's that's what

37:39

you're supposed to do. Oh, uh,

37:42

and, uh, now,

37:44

here's the thing. Uh, the

37:46

the unpronounceable name

37:48

of God. You'd have many

37:51

scholars today say it's pronounced Yahweh.

37:55

And but we're not sure

37:57

because that presumes the vows

37:59

we're putting in. Mhm. And also

38:01

the, the word the w.

38:04

That's actually just a transliteration

38:07

of the Hebrew vav which

38:09

is really pronounced like

38:11

a v not a w. So maybe

38:13

it would be Yahweh but we're

38:15

not sure. And uh, I

38:18

guess I, I just like it that in most

38:20

Bibles it has the

38:22

Lord with, uh, caps,

38:25

small caps. Okay. When you see,

38:27

you'd have.

38:29

Like, like or like like all caps. Lord,

38:31

that, you know, capitalize.

38:32

Yes. They have l and then or

38:35

d in small caps in most Bibles. Yeah.

38:37

Okay. So, so when we were talking

38:39

about the Exodus, um, in

38:41

the last segment, um, just

38:43

flipping through these, um, pages

38:45

of Exodus, it has Yahweh

38:48

in various places all over, but

38:50

also because you're looking.

38:51

At a CSB Bible, I am.

38:52

I am, but it also has Lord, with the capitals.

38:54

Yeah, in the same section.

38:57

So which of those is.

38:58

The not so consistent?

38:59

Which is though is it both. Any

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use.

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Of let me just.

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Say this would be the.

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Only one that does it is the CSB.

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That happened to be the one I brought today and the.

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CSB also. Okay.

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Uh, doesn't do it as much when they revise

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it. And it's actually one of the things

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I was on the translation team and my

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friend and former professor and

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I mean very close friend, uh,

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Edwin Blum was the general editor of that

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translation, and he

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really wanted to make it all Yahweh wherever it was.

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And there was some pushback.

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So it's mixed, and it was very inconsistent.

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Sometimes it was if it talks about the name of

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God, it used Yahweh.

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Okay. Uh, I'm telling

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you, I laughed with

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him quite a bit about saying I really disagree

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with this. I wanted it to be, uh.

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He says, oh, that's because you're Jewish, and that's how you were

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raised. And I said, yeah, but that's

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how Bibles have been done. It helps people understand.

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So if it says Yahweh or if

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it says Lord

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with the capitals, the small caps. Yeah,

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they are both, um, translating

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the same. Yep. Letters.

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Yeah. The four letters.

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And a few places in the Bible it'll

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have, it'll say the Lord, which is

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actually the word Adonai,

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God. You know where it says the Lord

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God and what that is the Lord

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Yahweh. And so God

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is pronounce is written g

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small caps o d.

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O.

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And you might have an older translation that would

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then use the word Jehovah. Yeah,

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okay. Were the word.

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So any of those, any of those that we see would

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be in place of the four

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letters. Yeah, right. The YHWH

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okay.

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It's all right. It's called the Tetragrammaton if you want

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to be. Oh yeah. Uh, it

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always makes me think of when I was in seminary,

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there was a friend of ours, Bob Hicks, who one

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day I heard him walking down

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the hallway singing every

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day with the Tetragrammaton.

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Sweeter than that. And I just, I

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just so but.

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Yeah, that's right.

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In him.

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Yeah. That's right, that's right.

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And there is no J in Hebrew.

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So that.

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That Jehovah would not be.

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It would have to be a.

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Y. Okay. So B yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Hova hoof.

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Okay. These are all those translation things that

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we don't know. And we just see them in our Bible and

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say what does that. Yeah. But

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I will say as a little Bible study

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tip usually

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this might be true I think across the board. But um,

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at the beginning of the Bible,

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in those notes, at the very beginning,

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it explains, yes, we have

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translated this this way and this is what

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it means. And so often you

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will find those notes in the very beginning,

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if there are any.

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No one reads.

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I have.

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But most people don't.

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Read this. I'm also the one who read a dictionary.

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As a child, I thought that was fun. I

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did too.

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I did too, Tricia. We're twins.

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Yes, yes.

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Okay, well, thank.

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You for that.

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Thorough explanation that went

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beyond, um, so hopefully, Tim, you

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did say, can you dive into this? And we definitely

41:53

did. So hopefully that answers your question.

41:56

Um, next question is

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from Jeannie on Facebook.

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She is looking at a couple of psalms,

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um, where David makes reference

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to the Lord's house or the temple,

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but it wasn't built until

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after David died. So

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what is he referring to? The specific one

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she mentions are Psalm five seven,

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where it says, but I enter your house by

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the abundance of your faithful love, I

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bow down toward your holy temple and reverential

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awe of you. In Psalm 23

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six references I will dwell in the house

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of the Lord. So what is he referring

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to?

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Yeah, I believe it or not. I recently

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was reading, I think, Psalm 30,

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and, uh, it's a Psalm of

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David. Let's see if I can find it just

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so I can. This is not so unusual.

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Uh, let me see if I can find it real quick. Uh,

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Psalm 30. I'm

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turning pages. Turning pages. Here we go. It's

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a psalm. A dedication

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song for the house

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mum.

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Is that referring to the house of the Lord?

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And then it says Davidic or of

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David. Okay. And so what

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house is he talking about? There's

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three possibilities. One,

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he's talking about the tabernacle. Two.

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He's speaking as a prophet that there will be a

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temple or something, that he anticipates

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his son. Solomon

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to build. And

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or the third possibility. And

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this is. It's something

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that we have to understand. How do we get the Book of Psalms?

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It's not like very often when

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people think of how the Book of Psalms came to

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be. It's sort of like when I

43:36

was in. A

43:38

high school, came to faith, had a

43:40

Bible study in my home, and we all thought we

43:42

were songwriters. We went through the Psalms

43:45

and everyone had our guitars and and we.

43:47

All made up some.

43:47

Tunes. Yeah, made up some tunes. You know, blessed

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be the Lord God and all this. And, uh,

43:52

what we would do is we would then,

43:54

uh, what was that blue stuff called again?

43:57

Uh, maybe you.

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Mimeograph them and we

44:00

put them in these little binders we had and just

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add them. We would add the songs every week

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into it and like, it was just as they were

44:06

written, they were put in there. Okay. That's

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not how the Psalms came to be. Uh,

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for example, we have Psalms by

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Moses, Psalm 90. Right.

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We have Psalms by Solomon. Mhm.

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Uh, Psalm 72. They're not in chronological

44:21

order. Uh, no. Uh, they're

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they're actually five books within

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five volumes within the Psalms to

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match the five volumes of the Torah. Uh,

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there was an editor,

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and now we know that the it

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was put together not gradually

44:38

or chronologically, but

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they were it was edited and put

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together into a final book after

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Israel's exile. The

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exile takes place in 586 BC.

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And this is supposed to be how do

44:53

we know one of the songs? Well, first of all, you've got

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exile psalms like

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Psalm 137 about by

44:59

the waters of Babylon. There we lay down

45:01

and wept for thee. Zion. Right.

45:03

So obviously that's the psalm that

45:05

was written in, uh,

45:08

in Babylon. And then you have Psalm

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126, when the Lord brought back

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the captive ones to Zion, we were

45:14

like those who dreamed, right? So

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it's it's the return from captivity.

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What does this tell us? That

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the Psalms as a book, although David wrote

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73 of them, it's marked. The

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Psalms as a book is a

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book that was put together. It was like

45:30

a hymn book put together

45:33

after the exile. Why

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is this important? The editor

45:38

of the Psalms will frequently

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have little, uh.

45:43

Adaptations. Uh, things.

45:46

Editorial comments. Someone

45:48

might call it a gloss. Uh,

45:51

whoever that biblical writer was after

45:53

the exile who was putting the whole Book of Psalms

45:55

together, he's putting some things in. And so, like

45:57

in Psalm 30, the one I just mentioned. Uh,

46:00

he says, oh, this is the psalm that was read.

46:02

David wrote it, but it was read with

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a dedicated The temple. And so

46:07

he puts that there in the superscript,

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sometimes even in the text, biblical

46:12

explanations like that. Okay.

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So the house of the Lord was a

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was a. The editor

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pointing forward.

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Could be in some cases sometimes

46:22

it's David. Okay. So talking

46:24

about the tabernacle okay.

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So the tabernacle.

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All right.

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46:30

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