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in central Indiana listening to Wagner.

3:57

Welcome to Open Line. Kevin.

3:59

How can I help you today?

4:02

Thanks for taking my call. I'm a longtime

4:04

listener of Moody and a supporter,

4:07

and, uh, I'm. Thank you.

4:09

Three years old. And

4:11

the older I get, the more I love the Bible

4:13

and it just is absolutely

4:16

alive. I wish I could have understood it

4:18

as much when I was a young person as I do

4:20

now, but I've been reading

4:23

about Jesus in the temple,

4:26

uh, before he was crucified when he first

4:28

came into Jerusalem, and he's

4:30

just delivered that blistering message

4:32

to the religious elite. And in chapter

4:35

23 of Matthew, uh,

4:38

you get down to the end of the chapter and

4:40

he's getting ready to leave the temple, and

4:42

he says, look, your house is

4:44

let the you desolate. And

4:47

the day before, when he drove out to robbers,

4:49

he said, my house will be called a house

4:51

of prayer. Now he's saying, your

4:53

house. Is that because,

4:56

uh, because he's going

4:58

to be the new

5:01

covenant, that the temple

5:03

is no longer going to serve any purpose,

5:05

and animal sacrifices will no longer

5:07

be accepted?

5:09

And you're reading. You're reading a lot of the book.

5:11

You're reading a lot of the book of Hebrews into

5:14

that verse, which I think is, uh,

5:16

probably more than you should,

5:19

just so you say, okay, uh,

5:22

uh, verse 38

5:24

is he's he's talking

5:27

specifically about how he

5:29

wanted to gather, uh,

5:31

Jerusalem's children, the

5:33

people of Jerusalem, the leadership of

5:35

Israel, all the Jewish people. He wanted

5:38

to gather them together as a hen gathers her

5:40

chicks under her wings. Yet you

5:42

are not willing. He's talking about has great desire

5:44

for the Jewish people to have believed in

5:46

him, and they were unwilling. And

5:49

the consequence of that is their house,

5:51

the temple. Is left

5:53

you desolate. In other words,

5:55

the temple is about

5:58

to be destroyed. Uh,

6:01

and this is crucial that the consequence

6:04

of rejecting Israel's messiah

6:06

for Israel was the destruction

6:08

of the temple. Uh, a lot of times people say,

6:10

how dare you say that, Michael? Well, I think it's interesting

6:13

that even rabbinic literature, it

6:15

says that the destruction of the temple came about because

6:17

of disobedience by the people of Israel. So

6:20

I'm not I'm not differing with

6:22

the rabbis. It's just the disobedience is different.

6:24

It's that God had wanted them to believe

6:26

in the the Jewish Messiah, Jesus.

6:29

The consequence of not doing so

6:31

is that the temple would be

6:33

destroyed. It's not just in Matthew that

6:35

it says that it says it in Luke

6:38

19. I

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think this is okay. This is why

6:42

I'm linking it here. Uh,

6:45

it says, uh,

6:48

uh, that, uh,

6:50

if you knew this day, 1942,

6:52

what would bring peace? But now it's hidden from your eyes.

6:55

The rejection of the Messiah for the day will come

6:57

on you. When your enemies will build an embankment

6:59

on you, against you. I'm sorry.

7:01

Surround you and hem you in on every side.

7:03

They will crush you and your children within you to the ground,

7:06

and they will not leave one stone or another because.

7:09

So this is Jerusalem going to be destroyed.

7:11

Happened when the temple was destroyed because

7:14

you did not recognize the

7:16

time of your visitation, not

7:18

because the Jewish people were more

7:21

guilty than anyone else, but

7:24

because the people of Israel, the Jewish people,

7:26

didn't recognize when God visited

7:28

them through the Messiah. And

7:30

the result would be the destruction of the temple. But

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I want to go back to Matthew 23,

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because I think the very next verse,

7:37

see, your house is left, the temple

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is left to you desolate. It's going to be destroyed.

7:44

But there's a tremendous hope

7:46

in the next verse, and it tells the key

7:48

of the Jewish people to prophetic

7:50

literature. It says, I tell you, you will

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not see me again until

7:55

you say. Blessed

7:58

is he who comes in the name of the Lord.

8:00

In other words, he says, you're not.

8:03

The offer is now

8:06

going to be withheld until

8:08

you change your mind. And

8:11

you say welcome. When?

8:13

Until you welcome me, you won't see me again.

8:16

He who comes. Blessed is he who comes.

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In the name of the Lord is the, uh, quote

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from Psalm one 1826. It's the term

8:22

official term of welcome, uh,

8:25

in Hebrew, uh, Baruch

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Adonai, and it means

8:30

welcome. And so what this is saying is

8:33

I'm not going to return.

8:36

Until you welcome me

8:38

back. The key to the Second

8:40

Coming. At the end of the tribulation, the church will be

8:42

removed. That will happen with the rapture,

8:44

I believe, any moment. But the key

8:47

to the Second Coming is when Israel

8:49

finally recognizes Jesus as

8:51

the Messiah in fulfillment of Zechariah

8:53

1210 and they look upon the pierced

8:55

one, and they mourn for him in repentance.

8:58

And they've called for his return

9:00

because they believe in him. That,

9:03

uh, is the key to the Second Coming

9:05

at the end of the tribulation. So,

9:08

uh, okay, great verse with great hope

9:10

as well, that the Jewish people will one day

9:13

believe in the Lord Jesus and call for

9:15

his return. Okay.

9:18

Thank you very much. Appreciate your program.

9:20

Yeah. Thank you so much for your call. Really appreciate

9:22

it. Mhm. Uh we're

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going to. Uh,

9:28

talk to Clinton

9:30

in Dundee, Florida, listening on Wcn.

9:33

Welcome to Open Line Clinton. How

9:35

can I help you today? Thanks, doc.

9:37

For your ministry and especially for

9:39

your expertise. I

9:41

have a problem with, I hear, talk

9:43

in certain quarters about a prophesied

9:45

third Temple in Jerusalem, implied,

9:49

too, with the re-establishment of the sacrificial

9:51

system. My difficulty with that is

9:54

how is that? How does that make sense

9:56

in light of the finished work of Jesus on

9:58

Calvary?

9:59

Okay, let me ask you this. Uh, do

10:02

you believe that the sacrifices

10:05

in the Old Testament that

10:08

were established in Leviticus and offered

10:10

throughout the Old Testament, do you think they

10:12

took away? Do you think they took away

10:14

sin?

10:16

No. They were looking forward to our Lord's sacrifice.

10:19

Just like shadows. For the substance

10:21

of his sacrifice. But they.

10:22

But they didn't take away sin. Are

10:29

you there?

10:31

Yeah, there were required by God,

10:33

but as a shadow would be.

10:35

But no, no. I'm just asking a simple.

10:37

Question.

10:38

For for clarification. They did

10:40

not take away sin, right?

10:42

Right?

10:43

Right. That's very important to understand,

10:45

because no sacrifice other than the

10:48

sacrifice of the Lord Jesus takes

10:50

away sin. Only the finished

10:52

work of Jesus, even the Old Testament

10:55

sacrifices, the blood of

10:57

bulls and goats, did not

10:59

take away sin. The book of Hebrews

11:01

tells us, right. I

11:04

think we're in agreement about that.

11:06

So we definitely are.

11:09

Yeah. Now what?

11:11

Uh, for example, Paul says in Second Thessalonians

11:14

about the. About

11:17

the Antichrist is that he's going to take his seat

11:20

in the temple, right?

11:23

Uh, and declare himself the

11:25

man of lawlessness. Second

11:28

Thessalonians two. And so there will

11:30

be a temple during the tribulation

11:33

period where the false Messiah will

11:35

proclaim himself Messiah.

11:37

And Israel will reject that

11:39

run from him, and that causes all

11:41

the anti-Semitism that will erupt in

11:43

the future tribulation period. So there

11:45

will be a temple then, but then Ezekiel

11:47

40 through 48. It

11:50

describes the Millennial Kingdom, and

11:52

it also points to a

11:54

temple existing. And

11:56

that temple will be,

11:59

uh, with sacrifices in the

12:01

Millennial Kingdom. Here's why

12:03

I think we will have a temple.

12:06

I won't take away sin just like

12:08

the Old Testament ones. The

12:10

earlier ones in the old. The first and second

12:12

temples didn't take away sin, but pointed

12:15

forward to Jesus. And

12:17

in the millennium

12:19

it says in Isaiah 65, if

12:21

someone dies at 100, they will be

12:23

considered very young. People

12:25

won't die as much in the

12:27

millennium. There will be people born in the millennium, they

12:29

will die. They won't have immortal bodies. But,

12:32

uh, death won't be as common.

12:35

Uh, the wolf will lay down with the

12:37

lamb. Uh, the animals

12:39

will no longer be predatory. It tells

12:41

us. Then, uh, death will

12:43

not be as common. And yet there will be people

12:45

born in the millennium that will need to

12:48

put their trust in Jesus.

12:50

And they have to believe that he died

12:52

for them and rose again. And the best

12:54

way for them to understand what

12:56

it means to what

12:58

the Messiah did, the living Messiah before

13:00

them, the immortal vessel reigning over them.

13:02

For them to understand what he did. There

13:04

will be sacrifices that look

13:06

back as a memorial

13:09

to remember what the Lord Jesus did.

13:12

And, uh, then understanding

13:14

that he's been raised from the dead. It

13:16

is a way of proclaiming the gospel

13:18

that Jesus alone is the one that takes

13:20

away our sins, uh, and that

13:22

they're going to have to trust in him. So that's what

13:24

I think. Uh, there

13:27

will be sacrifice in the Millennial Kingdom,

13:30

in a temple, uh, which don't

13:32

take away sin, but look back as

13:34

memorials of the Messiah's sacrifice.

13:36

Thanks for your call. We're going to come

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right back with, uh, more

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Good morning, Doctor Roy Zelnick.

16:03

Um, I am curious about,

16:06

um. Often

16:09

in the Bible it says that no one has ever

16:11

seen God, but it seems that

16:13

there are instances where people

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may have seen God, especially

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in Genesis.

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So Exodus to Moses in the burning

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bush sees God, right?

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Oh.

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Yes. And and

16:29

in Exodus, he goes up the mountain.

16:31

Yeah. Um, you know, and

16:34

and it says like Genesis 32.

16:36

Jacob, I have seen the face of

16:38

I've seen the face of God face to face.

16:41

But, you know, it's

16:44

often said, like in John

16:46

118, no one has ever seen

16:48

God and repeated in first John 412.

16:51

So I don't know if I'm misinterpreting

16:54

some of the walked with God like

16:56

with Enoch and stuff, but,

16:58

um.

17:00

Do you a good.

17:00

Question, insight on that?

17:02

Yeah, I think that we will never see God

17:04

the Father. There's some visions.

17:07

Where Isaiah saw God

17:09

the Father, you know, the Holy One seated

17:11

on the throne, and the angel saying, Holy,

17:13

holy, holy, remember that.

17:16

Uh, yeah.

17:17

Yeah, but that's a vision. That's

17:19

not really seeing. God. Uh,

17:21

even in Exodus, when the elders

17:23

go up the mountain and they see God. The

17:26

the word for sea. I think

17:28

that's an Exodus 33. I think the

17:30

word see is I think

17:32

it's Exodus 33. But the word see in

17:34

that passage is to see

17:36

in a vision.

17:38

Uh, okay.

17:40

Uh, Daniel seven. When Daniel sees,

17:43

uh, the Ancient of Days in his vision

17:45

again, it's a vision. So

17:47

no one has ever seen God the Father. And

17:50

I think that's what the Lord Jesus means when he

17:52

says, no one has ever seen God, because

17:54

then what he says is the one and only

17:56

son, the one who is at the father's side.

17:59

He has revealed

18:01

him. He has the word

18:03

for revealed, is uncovered or disclosed

18:06

him. So who is it

18:08

when you see an exodus?

18:11

Uh, one where Moses I

18:13

think it's one, uh, goes up

18:15

and sees or Exodus. Maybe it's Exodus,

18:18

uh, two and three. Uh, when Moses

18:20

goes up to see the burning bush, who

18:22

does he see? He sees God.

18:25

But who could it be if if no one

18:27

has ever seen God, who can it be?

18:29

The one who disclosed him? It's a pre

18:31

incarnate appearance of the Messiah.

18:33

That's what the angel of the Lord. That's

18:35

who the angel of the Lord is. For

18:37

example, in Genesis 18

18:40

when he comes with two other angels.

18:42

But there's the angel of the Lord and two other

18:44

angels, and Abraham sees God

18:46

and God speaks to him. Who is it?

18:49

The angel of the Lord. That is a pre

18:51

incarnate appearance of

18:53

the Lord Jesus. Uh, and even

18:55

in eternity, when it says,

18:57

uh, in the new creation. I think

19:00

this is really crucial. Uh,

19:02

it says that we'll see. God. But,

19:05

uh. And the lamb. But I

19:08

would translate it. We'll see. God,

19:10

even the lamb,

19:12

because we're not going to see God the Father. Who will we

19:14

see? Will see God

19:17

the Son, uh, in, uh,

19:19

in his immortal glorified

19:21

state. So that's

19:24

that's what I would, uh. I

19:27

would say when people see God, we

19:29

only see, uh,

19:32

God the Son, uh, the Lord Jesus,

19:35

it says, uh. It

19:37

says the throne of God and of the

19:39

lamb, even of the lamb will be in the city,

19:41

and his slaves will serve him. They

19:43

will see his face, and his name will be on

19:45

their foreheads. That's, uh, revelation

19:47

22, four and five. I think that's

19:49

where it's talking about, uh, how

19:51

we'll see the Lord Jesus for all eternity.

19:54

We'll have direct fellowship with God,

19:56

but only God the Son.

19:59

And we won't be disappointed about that at

20:01

all. I won't, I know, so

20:04

does that help?

20:05

Thank you for those insights. Yes, yes,

20:07

very much, because I was kind of,

20:09

you know, did he wrestle with Jesus

20:12

for Jacob?

20:13

That's it. You know, that's it. Yeah. Okay.

20:15

Yeah. Great. Thanks for your call.

20:17

Really appreciate it. We're going to speak with Roger

20:20

in northern Minnesota. Listen KB

20:23

h w welcome to Open Line. How

20:26

can I help you, Roger.

20:28

Um, well, I'm looking

20:30

at, uh, Matthew 726,

20:32

the Lord, um, where

20:35

the people said, Lord, Lord, we prophesied

20:37

in thy name. We've done many wonderful works,

20:39

we've cast out demons. And then also

20:42

looking at, uh, Judas Iscariot,

20:44

when Jesus, you know,

20:46

the all the disciples, excuse me,

20:49

all the disciples were on, gathered together.

20:51

And Jesus told the whole group that one of you

20:53

will betray me. And none of the disciples,

20:56

um, looked at, uh, Judas

20:59

and said, hey, it's you. They all looked at in

21:01

inward and said, is that I? Is

21:03

it I and my my question

21:05

is, um, first off,

21:07

the people in Matthew

21:09

726 were probably

21:12

doing these miracles by

21:15

Satan influence. And then

21:17

Judas himself was doing this. And

21:20

then, um, uh, another

21:22

part would be, uh, with

21:24

this type of stuff so prevalent today,

21:27

how would a person handle that? You know,

21:29

I sometimes I come into like

21:31

a bull in a China shop and, uh, but

21:33

I just feel that, uh, you know, people are getting

21:35

robbed by putting faith in that stuff.

21:38

Well, let me just say, first of all, we

21:41

don't know that they really are telling the

21:43

truth. I mean, they're

21:45

at the judgment and they're they're they

21:47

they know. They don't know the Lord. Uh,

21:50

the Lord never says, yeah, I know you did all those

21:52

things. Depart from me. I never knew

21:54

you. He, uh, he

21:56

says, well, actually, your work was iniquitous.

21:59

It was sinful. Uh,

22:01

so maybe they're lying, I don't

22:03

know. Uh, so

22:06

that's the first thing I would say.

22:08

We don't know what they did. Secondly, I'm

22:10

not charismatic, but I am

22:12

certainly not going to say that my

22:15

charismatic brothers and sisters who love

22:17

the Lord Jesus are somehow doing,

22:20

uh, uh, something

22:22

that that is wrong. You

22:25

know, I, I think we all agree,

22:27

my charismatic friends and I sometimes.

22:29

There they go. Uh, they

22:32

call things miracles that probably I would call Providence.

22:36

Uh. That's okay. The other thing

22:38

I would say, too, is I believe in miracles.

22:40

And God may do miracles. Uh,

22:42

and I'm I'm certainly

22:45

not going to deny that. Uh,

22:47

I just don't I don't want

22:49

to associate what happens in Matthew

22:52

seven with any contemporary movements.

22:54

I just, I, I, I'm very skeptical

22:57

of those people. And the other the

22:59

third aspect is that's not just for

23:01

all believers in Matthew seven. It's

23:03

very interesting. He talks about false prophets. And

23:06

who's going to say this? He's not talking

23:08

about just general believers. He's going

23:10

to say, uh, he says that

23:12

false prophets are the ones that are going to say

23:14

that. So they're tires to start

23:16

with. So that's that's

23:19

what I would, uh, how I would understand

23:21

that that and how should we measure people,

23:24

uh, not just by declaring whether they're

23:26

prophets or not. We

23:28

it's the choice at the end of the sermon

23:31

on the Mount where he says. You

23:34

know, there's two paths and there's two foundations.

23:37

And, uh, you have to be careful with the

23:39

false prophets and not follow them. That's

23:41

the choices every day believers have to make.

23:43

It has more to do with that.

23:45

Then, uh. Then.

23:50

Anything else. So, uh,

23:52

I think that people who sit around and say

23:55

it is I, it is I, I think the one disciple

23:57

who didn't say it is I. This is

23:59

Judas. He knew it wasn't him. Yeah, yeah.

24:03

Uh, I think when believers say it is, I,

24:06

uh, it's, uh is it I am I the one

24:08

that that's not that's always

24:10

proved to me that you're a believer. If you're worried that you're

24:12

not. You are. So there

24:14

we go. That's only

24:17

believers are the ones that say, do I really know the

24:19

Lord? Uh, I

24:21

want to make sure I really do. Uh, and

24:23

that's what Paul says. Examine yourselves to see if you're

24:25

in the faith. If a person is a genuine

24:28

believer, they're going to examine themselves and they'll say,

24:30

yeah, I, I really am. Okay.

24:33

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Patricia. Yes. We

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Talk about okay, okay. All

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right. Uh, uh, I'm letting

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Between the two of us, we hopefully will remember.

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Yeah, yeah, we need to do that. Uh,

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and, hey, we talk

27:15

about reaching unreached peoples. Who

27:18

do you think are

27:20

the most unreached people

27:22

in our very own midst?

27:25

Oh. Um.

27:29

You mean as a category? Yeah.

27:33

Like walking our neighbors and that kind of.

27:35

Thing in North America.

27:36

Oh, I don't know who

27:39

the Jewish people. Mhm.

27:41

Uh, Jewish people have had a tremendous influence

27:43

here in America. And, uh,

27:46

yet the people

27:48

that that are

27:50

least reached with the good

27:52

news, most believers are very nervous

27:54

about ever talking to a Jewish

27:57

person. About

27:59

their faith. They would like to. They pray for

28:01

them. I think that it's wonderful that a

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lot of people think that the verse in Romans

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1111, where it says, salvation has come to

28:07

the Gentiles to make the Jewish people

28:09

jealous, is that we'll just make him jealous with our

28:11

life and we'll never talk to them. Uh,

28:14

that is, I think, a big mistake.

28:17

I think we really need to learn how

28:19

to tell our

28:21

Jewish friends about our faith

28:23

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28:25

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28:27

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28:30

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Yeah, yeah, I think it could be a really helpful tool,

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uh, for our listeners. And

29:34

I mean, I guess you don't need it, but. Yeah,

29:37

yeah, could be really helpful. But now.

29:39

This is not a book to give your Jewish friend.

29:40

No, this is for the book for you

29:43

to, you know. Yeah. For some ideas

29:46

on how you can reach out.

29:48

Yeah. Okay. Well, let's let's,

29:50

uh, look at the Facebook mailbag. What do you got

29:52

for me?

29:53

Okay. Our first question is from Kimberly.

29:56

Um. And

29:59

she says, I feel that when

30:01

as a believer we have sinned or feel we

30:03

or feel like we've sinned in some way.

30:06

Um, that we need to ask the Lord for forgiveness

30:09

for those things. But recently I had

30:11

someone in a Bible study group tell me that because

30:13

grace is forever. And

30:16

the Lord died for all of our sins past, present,

30:18

and future. After

30:20

we've been saved, saved. We don't

30:22

need to confess our sins or repent for anything

30:25

that we do wrong

30:27

ever again. I don't agree

30:29

with that, but I'm wondering what you think.

30:32

I don't agree with that either.

30:33

Okay.

30:35

I do think I agree with this part that our

30:37

sins are forgiven, past, present, and future.

30:39

So I call that relational

30:41

forgiveness. We become God's child. We're

30:43

utterly forgiven. And,

30:46

uh, that that relationship

30:48

can never be severed once we

30:50

become God's child. Uh,

30:52

we're in the family. It's sort of like.

30:56

You know my own kids. I

30:58

used to tell them when they were little. There's

31:00

nothing you can do. You're my

31:02

child. There's nothing you can

31:05

do that will ever make me stop

31:07

loving you. You know, you're

31:09

forever my child. And,

31:11

uh. I

31:14

they, I said nothing, I said not a

31:16

thing. Even if you deny everything

31:19

I've ever taught you and you root for the Red Sox.

31:23

Uh. Then

31:26

you're still my child. I love you. And sure

31:28

enough, in 2004, my son tested

31:30

that by rooting for the Red Sox against the Yankees

31:32

in the playoffs. Uh huh.

31:34

Uh, and you still loved him?

31:36

I still love him. Okay. Without a hesitation.

31:38

Okay, but that's relational

31:40

forgiveness. Okay, we have that. But

31:43

then there's fellowship. Forgiveness. And

31:45

that's what first John one is talking

31:47

about, that we walk in the light as

31:49

he is in the light, and we have fellowship

31:51

one with another. That's a lot

31:53

of us think it's it's like horizontal

31:56

fellowship, you and me.

31:57

Right. Because we have fellowship with one another.

31:59

No, no, that's if we walk in the light

32:01

as he's in the light, we have fellowship.

32:04

God and us, we are in fellowship

32:06

together. We have things in common because we're

32:08

walking in the light. And,

32:11

uh, and the blood of his son cleanses

32:13

us from all sin as we walk

32:16

in the light. What

32:18

he does is he points. It's like a little

32:20

searchlight on our hearts, and it shows where

32:22

our sin is. And

32:24

what do we do then? First John one nine tells us if

32:27

we confess our sins, he is

32:29

faithful and just to forgive our sins

32:31

and cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

32:33

What that does when we sin as

32:35

followers of Jesus, we.

32:38

We may not break the relationship,

32:41

but we break fellowship. It puts a

32:43

barrier between us and God and

32:45

what we do. And we confess that sin.

32:48

What he does is he removes the barrier

32:50

and restores fellowship. Just

32:53

like my son had to really apologize

32:55

to me for rooting

32:57

for the Red Sox. No he

32:59

didn't. I didn't get mad at me. But you know

33:01

what I'm saying? Yeah. Uh, it's

33:04

it's. It's

33:06

fellowship, forgiveness that it's talking

33:09

about. They're not relational.

33:10

Okay, so are

33:14

we. I know that, um,

33:17

often we will use first

33:19

John one nine as

33:21

a, um, salvation

33:24

type of verse when sharing

33:27

the gospel.

33:28

I won't, you won't.

33:30

Okay. Is that is

33:32

that have

33:35

I been sinning when I have used that

33:37

like I mean, it's just.

33:38

You're not sitting.

33:39

By verse.

33:40

You're just misusing the verse. But that's all.

33:43

Okay, okay. It's not a

33:45

sin. It's a, you know, you really want.

33:47

If you look at the context, it's really they're talking

33:49

about believers. It's not talking about becoming

33:51

believers. First John five

33:53

verse 1314,

33:55

something like that says, I write these things to

33:57

you who believe.

33:59

Yeah. So that you may know. Yes.

34:01

Yeah. So he's not writing to people

34:04

who don't know the Lord. He's he's

34:06

writing to people who are believers. So

34:08

he's talking about fellowship, forgiveness

34:10

for believers. Uh,

34:13

this is written, directed to

34:15

followers of Jesus. And so,

34:18

uh, yeah, I, I would probably stay away from

34:20

that verse as a invitational

34:22

verse.

34:23

What's a better verse then? That would kind of

34:25

imply the same thing that we need

34:27

to confess our sins.

34:29

When I talk to Jewish people. Yeah. Uh.

34:33

I use only Old Testament. My invitational

34:35

verse that I use is Psalm

34:37

212 where it says

34:40

kiss the sun or do homage.

34:42

Worship the sun,

34:45

lest he be angry and

34:47

you perish in the way. Then it says, how

34:50

blessed are all those who

34:52

put their trust in him. So

34:55

I, uh. I.

34:57

I always say what we need to do is

34:59

put our, our trust in the sun. And

35:02

then, uh, for when

35:04

I'm talking to people who are not Jewish and I don't

35:06

have to just use the Old Testament. Uh,

35:08

I'll use something like, uh,

35:10

John one. As

35:13

many as received him. To them he gave the right

35:15

to become children of

35:18

God, even those who believed in his name.

35:20

So that's that's talking about

35:22

people who don't know the Lord receiving or believing

35:25

in him.

35:26

So. Okay. Thank you. Correcting

35:29

my faulty. No

35:32

no no no. It

35:35

is a good verse though. It was it's a great,

35:37

very clear, great first. But it's more

35:39

for restoring that fellowship between us and

35:41

God. Yeah. Um, than

35:44

it is.

35:44

We already know him.

35:45

Right. Okay. All right. Thank you for that.

35:47

And thanks for that question, Kimberly. Uh.

35:50

Next question. Go ahead.

35:51

One more.

35:52

Go ahead. Okay. Um.

35:56

Damia wrote and

35:58

said, years ago I gave my heart to Jesus

36:00

while visiting a church, and in that

36:02

church I learned about the Sabbath.

36:06

That is the holy day of rest.

36:08

But in the Ten Commandments, when they moved

36:10

to the New Testament, that is the one that

36:13

is no longer, um,

36:15

in the New Covenant, uh,

36:17

confirmed in the New Covenant, that's not

36:19

like restated out of the Ten

36:21

Commandments. Why,

36:25

if we don't have to keep the one, why

36:27

do we need to keep the other nine?

36:29

Well, first of all, the other nine are repeated, so

36:31

we have to keep them. Okay.

36:33

Okay. Uh, so that's the,

36:35

the first one. The second thing is I would say

36:37

about the I'm going to give you a quick answer about the

36:39

Sabbath. Uh, the principle

36:41

of Sabbath rest. We still

36:43

have to keep we need a day for spiritual

36:46

renewal. We needed a physical

36:48

rest, and we should use it. I think

36:50

that principle remains. The difference

36:52

is in the new covenant. Romans 14 says,

36:55

uh, one man honors one day above another.

36:57

Another views them all alike. Let each man

36:59

be convinced in his own mind. And so there's

37:01

this principle of following your convictions

37:04

about which day to take as your Sabbath. Uh,

37:06

but nevertheless, we still

37:09

need a day for spiritual renewal

37:11

and physical rest.

37:12

Okay? Okay. All right. Thank

37:14

you.

37:15

Good. Okay. We're going to go to break here.

37:17

All right? And, uh, when we come back,

37:19

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This is Michael regularly. And you're listening

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37:55

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37:59

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38:01

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38:08

Irene in Oakland, Illinois,

38:10

listening to our flagship station, Wbai.

38:13

Welcome to Open Line. How can

38:15

I help you today, Irene.

38:17

Hi, doctor Riddell. Nick, I was

38:19

I'm in a Bible study. We were,

38:21

um, studying Luke nine

38:23

about Jesus giving power to the disciples

38:26

to go out and cast out demons

38:28

and heal the sick. And

38:30

we know that the Holy Spirit

38:32

entered them at Pentecost. So

38:35

we were just wondering if Jesus

38:37

gave him the power or if they

38:39

he gave them the Holy Spirit for

38:41

the time being.

38:44

Well, uh. The.

38:49

I think the best explanation is. First

38:51

of all, let's start with how did

38:53

the Holy Spirit work in the Old Testament

38:56

as compared to after Pentecost?

38:59

The Holy Spirit was operative and

39:01

powerful, but he would come on, for

39:03

example, when Saul or David

39:05

were anointed as king. It talks about

39:07

how the Holy Spirit came upon them and

39:09

empowered them to do their work. And

39:11

then, of course, the the danger was that the Holy

39:14

Spirit could leave. So David prays and Psalm

39:16

51, take not your spirit

39:18

from me. So all

39:20

believers did not have the Holy Spirit,

39:22

but some did, and it was not

39:24

a permanent indwelling, but

39:27

it was rather a temporary

39:29

or could be a temporary, uh,

39:32

infilling. Uh, are

39:34

you aware of what I'm saying? Is this something that's

39:36

new to you? Uh,

39:38

do you understand that?

39:42

Was asking a question because it said Jesus

39:44

gave them the power.

39:45

Well, no, I'm just saying, you know, about

39:47

how the Old Testament Holy Spirit worked, what I'm

39:49

saying here. Okay.

39:50

Yes, yes. Mhm.

39:53

There's an example at

39:55

the end, uh, right at the

39:57

beginning of the, the time after

39:59

the resurrection and before Pentecost.

40:02

It says that the Lord Jesus in John

40:04

20, uh, entered

40:06

into the upper room and he said, peace.

40:08

This is John 2021. Peace be to you.

40:10

As the father sent me. So also

40:13

I send you. After saying

40:15

this, he breathed on them and said, Receive

40:17

the Holy Spirit. And

40:19

so it sounds to me like what he was

40:21

doing here is giving them one of those

40:24

temporary infilling like

40:26

the Old Testament had, because they're still

40:28

operating under this Old Testament principle.

40:30

Pre Pentecost.

40:32

So they received the Holy Spirit in

40:34

that temporary way to empower

40:36

them to get them to Pentecost.

40:39

I hope that makes sense. Therefore,

40:42

I would conclude that

40:44

the the Lord Jesus empowered them

40:46

with the Holy Spirit previously

40:48

when he sent them out, uh,

40:51

to uh, to travel

40:53

around Galilee and proclaim the gospel,

40:55

go throughout the whole area, for example,

40:58

in Matthew ten. That

41:00

he sent them out with a,

41:03

uh, empowerment by the Holy Spirit.

41:05

That was an Old Testament style

41:07

empowerment by the Holy Spirit, just

41:09

as he did in John 20. That's what I think.

41:13

Okay, well, that makes a lot of sense. Thank

41:15

you so much.

41:16

Yeah. Thank you so much for your call. Really appreciate

41:18

it. Uh, we're going to speak with

41:21

Jenny in Fairview, Tennessee,

41:23

listening on WKF online. Welcome

41:25

to Open Line. Jenny. How can I help you today?

41:28

Hi. Good morning. Hey, I

41:31

hope I can say this right. I

41:34

in my job, I also train people

41:36

to do the job and I love

41:38

to engage with people. So

41:40

this one fellow that came through

41:43

in the midst of talking, he told me

41:45

he is Jewish and

41:47

that he is interested

41:49

in Christianity. He's interested

41:52

in the Christian churches.

41:54

And so I, I

41:56

talked to him a few about the

41:59

Christianity in the Bible

42:02

and some stories that he wasn't familiar with,

42:04

and he's very intrigued and very

42:06

interested. So

42:09

I don't know quite where to go with it at

42:11

this point. So I wonder if

42:13

you could help me figure out where you're

42:15

with the conversation with this man?

42:18

Sure. Uh, start getting him to read

42:20

the Bible. Suggests that he read the Bible.

42:22

And if he's willing, you might want to say read

42:24

Genesis. But if you are willing,

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uh, try reading

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the Gospel of Matthew. See if he's willing

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to read the New Testament and

42:33

and read through it with him and talk about it

42:35

with him. Uh, at work. Is

42:37

it work that that you met him? Is that where it is?

42:40

Yeah, it is at work.

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And the other issue is, is we're not supposed

42:44

to talk about that kind of stuff. So I try to

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keep it as low key as possible.

42:48

Okay. Well, you could if you have free time,

42:51

you know, uh, go out for lunch or something like that.

42:53

Uh, that's that's something to do. Um,

42:56

maybe if there's another believer at work to do that,

42:58

uh, three of you together, that would be a good

43:01

thing. First of all, I would say

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get him to read the Bible. Try your best.

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Especially the Gospels, particularly

43:07

the Gospel of Matthew. Uh, secondly.

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Uh.

43:12

Learn how to present Messiah

43:14

in the Hebrew Bible. Uh,

43:16

you can get this book that I've mentioned already.

43:19

Uh, how to introduce your Jewish

43:21

friends to the Messiah by going to Open

43:23

Line Radio. Org and,

43:26

uh, clicking on the free

43:28

gift from Chosen People Ministries. And

43:30

you'll get that book that will help you immensely,

43:33

uh, learn how to present the gospel

43:35

just using the Hebrew Bible again. That

43:37

book will help you a

43:39

lot. Uh, the other thing

43:41

I would say, and I'm answering

43:43

this as fast as I can. Uh.

43:46

You know, I posted on

43:49

Facebook a couple weeks ago,

43:51

uh, some TV shows I did a number

43:53

of years ago, uh, called

43:55

My Search for Messiah. And it was some

43:58

stuff I did for the Daily Bread Ministries,

44:00

uh, when they had a TV show that,

44:03

uh, was really about messianic prophecy

44:05

and how it convinced me to believe in Jesus.

44:07

So, uh, I think

44:09

it's it's. It's something.

44:11

I've never watched it myself because I was there

44:13

when I recorded them, and I can't stand

44:15

to watch myself on TV, but I've been told

44:17

that they're really helpful in two ways. One,

44:20

it helps you learn how to present messianic

44:22

prophecy if you watched it, but

44:24

also it's the kind of thing that you could sit down

44:26

or, or send the links

44:29

to that. They're on YouTube, uh,

44:31

send the links to your Jewish

44:33

friend. Because when I recorded

44:35

those, what the

44:38

producer said to me was, we don't want you to talk

44:40

to Christians in this. We want

44:42

you to present this as if you were talking to your

44:44

Jewish friend. And so

44:46

that's how you can learn by

44:49

watching how to present to a Jewish

44:51

friend. But you can also give it directly

44:53

to a Jewish friend to watch

44:55

that link and see if it's helpful

44:57

to them, and then talk about it with them. So if

44:59

you give it, if you give it to your Jewish

45:02

friend, uh, to watch,

45:04

you should watch it as well. So you know how to discuss

45:06

it afterwards. Okay.

45:11

Absolutely. Thank you very much.

45:13

Yeah. Now, remember where to find it. Uh,

45:16

you probably could find it on YouTube

45:18

if you look up Michael Riedel. Nick. My

45:20

search for Messiah. Uh,

45:22

but the easiest way, if you have Facebook

45:24

to go to the Open Line Facebook page

45:26

and then you click on

45:28

the. Just a few

45:31

weeks, I think it was like two weeks ago, uh,

45:33

we posted that and, uh,

45:35

and so you'll find it right there on the Open Line

45:37

Facebook page. Uh, I think that's

45:40

I think that could be really helpful, uh, for

45:42

a Jewish friend to watch. Uh,

45:45

and, you know, one of the, the biggest issues

45:48

to let Jewish people know, I should mention

45:50

this is so often Jewish people have been told

45:52

that to follow Jesus means to give

45:54

up on being Jewish. It does.

45:57

That is, uh, I think,

45:59

an untruth. The most Jewish thing a

46:01

person can do is to believe in the Jewish

46:03

Messiah. That's what ultimately convinced

46:05

me. And that's what why I think

46:07

it's so important to read the scriptures

46:10

from the Hebrew Bible and to read the Gospel

46:12

of Matthew, because it shows that Jesus

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is the Messiah of Israel

46:16

and the world. Well, that's

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the program for the week. Uh, so

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glad that you join me. We're going

46:22

to be back next week with, uh, more

46:25

of your questions. When

46:28

as as you wait, you can always check

46:30

out.

46:30

Our web.

46:31

Page, Open Line Radio. Org has all the links

46:34

that you're looking for, including

46:36

our current resource and how to become

46:38

a kitchen table partner.

46:41

Uh, keep reading the Bible. We'll talk about it next week.

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