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And first up right now this hour

1:01

is Susan and Vero Beach, Florida,

1:03

listening online. Welcome to Open

1:05

Line. Susan. How can I help you?

1:08

Hello, Michael. Well,

1:10

um, I have a question for you. We I

1:13

I'm a facilitator for Bible ladies

1:15

Bible study at our church. We're currently

1:17

in the Gospel of John study,

1:20

and we're at chapter six. So we've been studying

1:22

about Jesus's bread of Life. So

1:24

I had proposed to our group that we

1:27

celebrate communion. Um.

1:30

At the close of that particular, which

1:32

is coming up this coming week. But,

1:35

um, because, you know, we've we're

1:37

talking about Jesus is the bread of life

1:39

and all of that. So that

1:41

initiated quite a deep.

1:45

Discussion in the following

1:47

days about can

1:51

um a subset group of the church,

1:53

particularly a group of women in a women's

1:55

Bible study? Uh, is it permissible

1:58

for us to celebrate

2:01

communion together by

2:03

ourselves? And so

2:05

there there are some varying,

2:07

um, uh, points

2:09

of view on this, and I would love to hear yours.

2:13

Well. Honestly,

2:16

I'm the wrong person to ask because

2:19

it really has to do with your church

2:21

because there are different views of

2:23

communion and

2:26

some might say no

2:28

communion must be in

2:31

the the worship

2:33

setting. Like

2:35

for I don't know if what your church is. If it was an

2:37

Anglican church, I'm sure

2:40

they wouldn't want you to do that.

2:42

They would want the.

2:43

Yeah, we're a Baptist church.

2:46

Oh, okay. So your

2:48

church takes a memorial view. Of

2:51

that? Yes.

2:52

Yes.

2:54

Uh, okay.

2:56

The the difference. If anyone's listening, there's

2:58

a view that says that there's a some sort

3:00

of mystical presence. Uh,

3:04

not not like, uh, the view where

3:07

the, uh, the

3:09

the blessed host

3:12

and and cup somehow

3:15

have Jesus really there. But

3:17

there's a mystical presence that's

3:19

the Anglican approach. And

3:21

they would be very

3:24

averse to

3:26

you having the Lord's Supper. Uh,

3:29

the other hand, most people hold a memorial

3:31

view, which is that it's symbolic.

3:33

It's a symbol of the body and

3:35

and blood of the Lord, not

3:38

an actual mystical

3:40

presence. That's the memorial view

3:43

is symbolic. We do this

3:45

to remember.

3:47

Uh.

3:48

That there would be a great

3:50

deal more openness to the idea.

3:53

That's what I would say. I wouldn't have any issue

3:55

whatsoever about doing it. But

3:57

again, I'm the wrong person to ask because your pastor

4:00

may disagree. So.

4:02

Well, you know, our pastor's

4:04

been involved in this and the interesting, the

4:06

interesting situation of this. And we're

4:08

by the way, we're not going to do it because

4:11

there is not agreement

4:13

amongst us, so we're not going to do

4:15

it. But the interesting thing

4:17

is our pastor is like, yes,

4:20

this is a memorial thing. And when believers

4:22

get together, there's no scriptural injunction

4:24

against doing it because we're doing this in

4:26

remembrance. But his wife is

4:29

in our group and she

4:31

is more adheres

4:33

more to the regulatory principle

4:35

of worship, and she's

4:37

not comfortable with it. And a couple of other

4:40

ladies are, you know,

4:42

see, agree with her. And so

4:44

for the sake of unity and love, we're

4:46

not going to do it. But I thought it

4:48

would be interesting to hear your

4:50

perspective on it.

4:51

And I, I think,

4:53

uh, talk to your pastors,

4:56

what I would say and, uh, that's

4:58

my perspective. If I were if I were

5:00

a pastor, I would encourage it. That would

5:02

be fine. Okay. Uh, well, he did.

5:05

Actually, but his wife was like, no,

5:07

I'm not comfortable.

5:08

Yeah. Boy, they must have had that. Must

5:10

have been a pretty interesting dinner table they had

5:13

that day when they had that disagreement.

5:15

Oh, let me tell you, we have our

5:17

Wednesday night, um, gathering

5:20

was very,

5:23

uh, robust in our discussions

5:25

about.

5:28

How good it was.

5:29

Been great. It really it has been

5:31

a very good experience to

5:33

to really, you know, dive down

5:35

into this topic. But um,

5:38

and so we've made the decision that unity

5:41

and peace and relationship is more important

5:43

than.

5:44

That's good, a good choice

5:47

since it is the cup of fellowship. You know,

5:49

you want to keep your unity there, but

5:52

yeah. Yeah.

5:52

And uh, and reading, um, you know,

5:55

first Corinthians 14, where there,

5:57

you know, that the Lord's Supper

5:59

was kind of a disaster because

6:01

there was no love

6:03

and peace there.

6:04

Yeah. Well, good. Well, I, I

6:06

appreciate it, but, you know, anyone

6:09

listening, you should know when things like this

6:11

come up, I say talk to your pastor, or

6:13

maybe more importantly, to your pastor's

6:15

wife. That's what I would say. So anyway.

6:18

Okay, well, thank you for your call. All right.

6:21

Okay. Bye. Bye, Michael. Bye bye.

6:23

We're going to bye bye. We're going to talk with, uh,

6:25

Debbie in Chattanooga, Tennessee, listening

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on Wmbs, where

6:29

I will be. When

6:32

are we going to be there? Tricia? Is it two weeks?

6:34

Yeah, two weeks from now? Yeah.

6:36

Uh, with a special. I'm

6:40

sure if you go to the WMU

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website, you can see, uh,

6:44

how you can sign up Friday night,

6:46

I'll be speaking on Israel, the key

6:48

to biblical prophecy. And then Saturday

6:50

morning, doing a live

6:52

broadcast, uh, with

6:54

WMU and a live audience

6:57

asking the questions. Hey,

6:59

Debbie. How can I help you today?

7:02

Okay. Uh, as

7:04

I was thinking about asking my

7:06

question after I talked to the person

7:09

who initially talks to us,

7:11

uh, you know, more questions

7:13

come up. But, um, you

7:15

know, I was I was thinking,

7:18

as I study Mark 14,

7:21

the first few verses there

7:23

where it talks about, uh, the

7:25

woman anointed Jesus head

7:28

says she poured over his head

7:31

the the nard. And

7:33

in John 12, um,

7:36

it talks. It talks about

7:38

Mary. It specifies

7:41

her name. In John 12, she

7:43

poured the nard over his feet

7:45

and wiped his feet with her hair. And,

7:48

uh, the difference in Mark 14

7:51

and John 12 is,

7:53

um, uh, in John

7:55

12 it says, Mary did it

7:58

six days before the Passover.

8:00

And Mark 14

8:02

only specifies two

8:05

days before the Passover. And,

8:08

um, I you

8:10

know, the question that came up is I was thinking

8:12

about it. Mark 11 is

8:14

the triumphal entry in

8:16

John 12, six

8:18

days before the Passover. The

8:20

next day was the triumphal entry.

8:23

So my question

8:25

is, do you think it's possible that

8:27

Mary saved

8:29

some of the nard? For

8:33

two days before the Passover and

8:36

and poured it over his head. Poured some

8:38

of it over his head. Do you,

8:40

uh, do you think that's a possibility?

8:43

Because, um,

8:46

you know, I, I know this

8:48

this kind of thing is

8:50

seen by some as the contradiction,

8:53

um, you know, and and they

8:55

point to things like this.

8:56

Okay, let me just say this,

8:59

okay. You should probably talk to

9:01

a Bible expert about this

9:03

because. Uh.

9:08

Uh, no. Uh, honestly,

9:10

uh, what you would need to do

9:13

is have you looked up any commentaries

9:15

about this?

9:17

No. And I had the Moody Bible

9:19

Commentary, but I haven't looked at it.

9:21

Oh, yes, I did when this came

9:23

up before in in my study.

9:26

And I talked with my

9:28

fiancee about it, uh, a

9:30

little bit. And, um,

9:32

you know.

9:33

If your fiancee is not a commentary,

9:36

but the the point is, uh.

9:40

The, you know, I, I

9:42

really have not, uh. Uh,

9:46

honestly studied this,

9:49

uh, but this is one of the ones that you would have to look.

9:53

I'm just speaking off the top of my head. It's not something

9:55

I've. I've studied, and,

9:57

uh, I would, I would guess. There's

9:59

a couple of things that that

10:02

guide me. One,

10:05

uh. One

10:08

aspect is that.

10:12

Uh, the the disciples.

10:16

Uh, these are their memoirs.

10:18

Mark is Peter's memoir. He

10:20

wrote it down. Uh, and,

10:23

uh, John is John's memoir,

10:25

and they're

10:28

going from memory. I don't think

10:30

that they put everything in necessarily

10:32

chronological order. Uh,

10:35

they they put things in.

10:37

Now, the passage

10:39

about, uh, the

10:42

in Mark 14 where it says

10:44

it's two days before

10:46

what happens there? Is,

10:50

uh, the anointing by Mary and.

10:54

But, uh, I'm trying to

10:56

look at the text here. It could very

10:58

well be that this was actually not two days.

11:00

It was six days because it doesn't

11:03

say in Mark 14 it says it

11:05

was two days before the Passover.

11:07

And that's when the chief priests said

11:09

that they were going to kill him. Uh,

11:12

but then in verse three, it picks

11:14

up and it says

11:16

that he was in Bethany. Uh,

11:19

meanwhile, and it doesn't mean that

11:21

this event in verse three necessarily

11:24

took place when they

11:26

made that decision. So that's

11:28

that's what I would say. Uh,

11:30

so, uh, I

11:33

think I would do some more research before

11:35

I'm going off this right now, going off the top of my head.

11:38

Uh, I think this

11:40

is not necessarily more

11:42

14 is not written in chronological

11:45

order. What happened two days before

11:47

the Passover was when the plot

11:49

was revealed, uh, that

11:52

what they were going to do, verse three picks

11:54

up something that happened a couple of days before.

11:56

That's what I would say right off the top

11:58

of my head. Uh, but anyway,

12:01

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We're going to speak now. With,

15:01

uh, Sharon and Lake Worth, Florida, listening on

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warm. Welcome to Open Line, Sharon.

15:05

How can I help you?

15:07

Good morning, Doctor Roderick. Thank

15:10

you for taking my call. I

15:12

want to say thank you to you and your staff,

15:14

really, for what you do. And

15:17

thank you for bringing your knowledge to the rest

15:19

of the world about God's Word. I

15:22

have a question in, um, Mark

15:24

chapter 14, verses

15:27

51 to 52. It

15:29

said there followed him a certain young man

15:32

having a linen cloth cast

15:34

about his naked body. And the

15:36

young man, the young men

15:38

laid hold on him, and

15:40

he left the linen cloth and fled

15:42

from them. My question

15:44

is, who is that young man?

15:46

And who are the young men, other

15:49

disciples? Or was the

15:51

young man one of his disciples?

15:53

I read in a ESV

15:57

a footnote that, uh, suggested.

16:00

That other biblical scholars

16:03

said they thought it was Mark.

16:07

Mhm. Well. First

16:10

of all, when we look at the gospel by Mark, in

16:12

my opinion, and and the most ancient

16:15

opinion is that the gospel

16:17

by Mark is a reflection

16:19

of what Peter gave

16:21

in a sermon at one

16:23

point. And Mark was with him, sort

16:26

of wrote down Peter's message, and

16:28

then wrote it up as a gospel.

16:31

And so, uh,

16:33

in a in a sense, this

16:36

is the gospel by Peter. This is

16:38

the truly it's Peter's message.

16:40

It's Peter's memories. It's

16:42

as Peter understood it. And,

16:45

uh, as a result of that, uh.

16:49

People have speculated.

16:53

That because Mark wrote it all down that this

16:55

was a little way of Mark saying, here's

16:57

a little signature to say I was around here

16:59

to even though I'm writing down what

17:01

Peter said, here's my little,

17:03

uh, thumbprint on the story. Uh,

17:06

this is what the Moody Bible

17:08

Commentary says. The unidentified young

17:10

man was probably

17:12

Mark himself. He

17:14

was showing that he was present at this

17:17

event as well. Uh.

17:20

Anyway. He pulled himself free of the garment,

17:22

probably ran away in his underwear even though

17:24

it says naked. But that's probably

17:26

what he was doing. And,

17:28

uh, that's. Yeah, I think it's a

17:30

it's a little thumbprint. It's a little signature.

17:33

It's a little way of saying, yep, that was me.

17:35

And I'm not only was I there,

17:37

but I've, I wrote down all

17:39

the stuff in here that that he,

17:42

uh, by tradition, got from Peter.

17:45

Okay.

17:46

The the part of the verse where it says,

17:49

and the young men laid hold on him

17:51

would be those were, uh, with

17:54

young men, the rest of his disciples,

17:57

you know, his fellow disciples, would

17:59

that be.

18:00

You know, they all deserted him and ran away.

18:03

So it may have been one of the soldiers

18:05

that grabbed him.

18:06

One. Okay.

18:09

Yeah. Okay.

18:11

Okay.

18:12

Thank you. And and there may have been people

18:14

who weren't even of the soldiers who were like

18:16

with the, the, uh,

18:18

with the.

18:19

But the soldiers.

18:20

Yeah. The the people who maybe

18:22

came with the priests who were with the soldiers

18:25

to arrest him. You know, they

18:27

may have had some young apprentices with them,

18:30

and that may have been the ones that grabbed him.

18:32

So. Okay.

18:35

Okay. Thank you.

18:37

Hey. Yeah. Thank you for your call. Appreciate

18:39

it. Yes. Uh, we're we're going to speak

18:41

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18:44

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18:52

How can I help you?

18:54

Hey, how you doing, Mr. Nick?

18:58

Michael. It's fine.

18:59

Back and forth. Fine. Oh, sorry,

19:01

Michael. I've been going back and forth with my sister

19:04

about baptism. Okay,

19:06

her stand is if you're not

19:09

baptized, you're not a part of

19:11

the Christian body. And

19:14

it all started when I saw people in her car

19:16

from her church and it said Steps to Salvation.

19:18

I was like, like, don't you? There's no steps

19:21

to salvation. All you have to do is accept Jesus Christ

19:23

as your Lord and Savior. I'm not saying

19:25

don't get baptized, but baptized

19:27

baptism doesn't save you. So I guess

19:29

my question for both of us is

19:32

if you're not baptized, are

19:36

you a part of the body of

19:38

Christ even though you accept Jesus Christ

19:40

as your Lord and Savior?

19:43

Well, I would start with the book of acts

19:45

in Acts 16, when

19:47

the Philippian jailer is

19:49

terrified and he asks, what must

19:51

I do to be saved? And

19:54

the answer Paul gives is believe

19:56

on the Lord Jesus and you will be saved.

19:59

You. And then he says, and your household people

20:01

think that means his whole household is going to be saved

20:04

if he believes that's not what it's saying is saying

20:06

if your household believes they'll be saved too,

20:09

you know it's not just you that has this opportunity.

20:11

Everyone has this opportunity if they

20:13

believe they will be saved. But it only says

20:15

believe. It doesn't say be baptized.

20:18

Uh, when the thief on the cross

20:21

asked the Lord Jesus to remember him when he comes

20:24

into his kingdom. Uh,

20:27

that, uh. Uh,

20:30

that what that was saying was

20:32

that, uh, he

20:34

said, Lord, remember when you come into your kingdom, he

20:36

said, this day you'll be together with

20:39

me in Paradise. That's what the Lord

20:41

Jesus said to him. He didn't say, well, we got to

20:43

get you baptized first. Uh,

20:45

Ephesians 289 says

20:47

that we are saved by grace through

20:49

faith, and it's not of works.

20:53

There's no work we can do. There's no step

20:55

we can take. The reason

20:58

I believe that people

21:00

get this confused is

21:02

they're verses in the Bible like acts 238.

21:05

Where I think they misunderstand

21:07

it. Uh, it says,

21:10

repent, Peter said to them, which is the negative

21:12

side, what we turn away from

21:14

when we turn in faith to the Lord Jesus.

21:17

Uh, repent, Peter said

21:19

to them, and be baptized, each

21:21

of you in the name of the Lord

21:23

Jesus, for the forgiveness

21:25

of your sins, and you will

21:28

receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. Uh.

21:32

The the reason

21:35

there's a different num

21:37

number. You know, every Greek word

21:40

has has a, uh, has

21:42

a number, whether it's singular or plural.

21:45

And in acts 238

21:48

there's a different number between those

21:50

things. It's kind of a tactical, easy to read

21:52

in Greek, but if you don't know Greek, not as

21:54

as, uh. Not

21:57

as simple. Uh,

22:00

but the point of it

22:02

is the way the Greek is structured,

22:05

the and be baptized

22:08

is sort of

22:10

a, uh.

22:13

A parenthetical note,

22:16

uh, that if you do,

22:19

uh, repent, then the

22:21

result will be you should be baptized.

22:24

Uh, but it's not for the forgiveness

22:26

of your sins. Repent. For

22:28

the forgiveness of your sins. Is the statement

22:30

without the parenthetical note. Uh,

22:33

it's. Repent, all of you, for the

22:35

forgiveness of all your sins. And

22:37

by the way, if you do, you should be baptized.

22:40

That's what the parenthetical

22:42

note is. It's not saying you need to be baptized

22:44

to be saved. And so, uh,

22:47

that's it's a little bit clearer in Greek,

22:49

but nevertheless, that's what it's

22:51

saying. And I think people who just read

22:53

English, they get this confused because

22:55

they, they see this first. But the whole

22:58

tenor of Scripture is

23:00

that we're saved by grace through faith.

23:03

And and there's no work

23:05

involved. I hope that helps. Thanks

23:07

for the call. And I do think it's important

23:09

that we are baptized, but not for salvation.

23:12

It's as a outward sign

23:14

of our faith, not necessarily

23:16

for salvation. That's not what it's talking

23:18

about. So anyway, thanks for your call,

23:20

Gabriel. We're going to talk next with Martin,

23:24

uh, in northern

23:26

Idaho. Listen. Okay. Maybe,

23:29

uh, welcome to Open Line. Martin. How can I help

23:31

you?

23:32

Well, thank you for taking my call. Um,

23:34

Michael. Um, I don't want to

23:36

be deceived. And I see a

23:38

lot of different people being deceived.

23:41

Uh, maybe I'm reading too much into this, but

23:43

I see, um, Satan,

23:47

uh, metamorphosing, changing

23:49

into a snake. And then

23:51

I see, uh, taking,

23:55

um, inhabiting the

23:57

the Antichrist. And

23:59

I see him, you know, probably

24:01

all through the Bible. But

24:03

I'd like to have you talk

24:05

a little bit more how we can be

24:08

more aware that we're being deceived

24:10

by Satan.

24:14

Well. Do

24:16

you think people are just being deceived by Satan?

24:19

You know, disguises himself as an angel

24:21

of light? He doesn't

24:23

very often take on the form of a snake,

24:26

you know, or an animal.

24:28

Uh, right.

24:29

You know, uh, I

24:31

have one in case where he did that, so I'm

24:33

not worried about that. I do know he.

24:36

The way people are deceived is

24:38

he'll take something that is contrary to the word

24:40

of God. And,

24:44

uh. By

24:47

doing that. He will

24:49

try and present something as this is really

24:51

good. But it's really contrary

24:54

to the word of God. That's I think that's

24:56

the number one deception that he has.

24:59

He has pleasure.

25:01

It's not necessarily pleasure anything, you know, this

25:03

is what God wants. This is a really good

25:05

thing. And the result

25:08

is it may be pleasure. It's it's

25:10

it, you know, the lust of the eyes, the lust

25:12

of the flesh, or the sinful pride of life.

25:14

He he will take something.

25:17

And in those three areas

25:19

tempt us and. Okay,

25:22

uh, and we'll fool people

25:24

into thinking that this is something good.

25:27

The answer I would give is

25:30

the best way to deal with this is

25:32

to know the Word of God. Read,

25:34

study. Apply the Word of

25:36

God in our lives. When we do that,

25:39

it's if we know the truth. Uh,

25:41

if a deception comes, we'll

25:44

never fall for it. We won't be deceived by

25:46

him. So knowing the Word of God is key.

25:48

We'll be back with more of your questions and back

25:50

the mailbag in just a moment.

25:52

Stay with us.

26:09

Welcome back to Open Line. I'm Michael Redlich,

26:11

and I'm so glad to be with you on this

26:14

Saturday morning. It's time

26:16

right now for the Facebook mailbag.

26:19

I just want to say I appreciate

26:21

the ministry of the Far Eastern Broadcasting

26:24

Company so much. They are reaching the world

26:26

in ways that, uh, many

26:28

people couldn't get in. Uh, because they

26:30

do it through broadcasting.

26:32

And one of the things that I really appreciate

26:34

is I was speaking with Ed Cannon, the president

26:37

of Far Eastern Broadcasting, is that

26:39

they have people on the ground to do

26:41

follow up and help people who respond

26:43

to the broadcast message. So

26:46

it's not just the airwaves

26:48

that reach people, but actual people

26:50

to people follow up. That's

26:52

that's just terrific. If you want to know more

26:54

about the Ministry of Facebook, just

26:57

go to FB Korg and there's

26:59

a link there to their podcast

27:01

that's called Until All Have Heard, and it

27:03

features Ed Cannon. Uh, I think you'll

27:05

be really encouraged as you listen to that.

27:07

Well, here comes Tricia McMillan. She's got

27:09

the mailbag and she's been soliciting

27:12

questions. I didn't know why she did this. She's

27:14

trying to make trouble for me. She's solicited

27:16

questions on Facebook.

27:18

Are you going to make trouble? Yeah.

27:20

Opening up venues. If people don't

27:23

don't don't want to email it in,

27:25

they can also post it on our Facebook

27:27

page or our Instagram page.

27:30

Um, I have been remiss in checking that,

27:33

um, in the last couple of weeks, so I apologize,

27:35

but but I also see those. So

27:37

those are two other places that you can leave

27:39

questions for us as well. Okay,

27:41

good. Okay.

27:43

Well, anyway, let's, uh,

27:45

let's see what we can

27:47

do here to answer some of these.

27:49

Questions, see how we can get you in trouble. Okay. Yeah.

27:51

Our first question is from Sue Ellen,

27:54

who says, Would Jesus have been crucified

27:56

at the same time the Passover lamb

27:58

was being sacrificed? I believe

28:00

the book of John. This seems to be implied,

28:02

but I recently heard something mentioned about how

28:04

his body had to be dealt with before the Passover.

28:07

Yeah.

28:09

Uh, you you. This

28:14

is actually one of the really technical

28:17

issues, uh, in terms

28:19

of and it's really the question was the

28:22

Thursday night, the

28:24

Passover? An

28:26

actual Passover meal. Because

28:31

if it was the Passover meal, why

28:34

then were, uh, was

28:36

was the Lord brought to the priests?

28:39

You know what I mean? The

28:41

they for they go

28:43

to the high priest. That's where he's arrested

28:45

and he's brought to the high priest. That

28:48

wouldn't have happened if it was Passover ready for

28:50

the right. And yet you

28:52

look at the synoptic Gospels and clearly

28:55

the the meal, the Last Supper

28:57

is a Passover meal. What

29:00

is going on? Uh,

29:02

and the same thing that, you know. This

29:05

is it's sort of an issue. Well,

29:08

I think the best solution is found in

29:10

the book, uh, that I mentioned

29:12

here all the time. Chronological Aspects

29:14

of the Life of Christ by

29:16

Harold Horner. And

29:19

in that book, he points out that

29:21

the Galileans and the Pharisees

29:23

had a different time when

29:25

they offered the sacrifice of the Passover,

29:28

and that would have been before sunset

29:31

on Thursday, which

29:33

would have made. And since most of the disciples,

29:35

except for Judas, were Galileans.

29:39

They would have followed the the,

29:42

uh. The

29:44

Pharisee Galilean approach

29:46

of a Thursday sacrifice.

29:49

Thursday late, late afternoon. And

29:51

then, uh, the

29:55

the Sadducees,

29:57

priesthood and the Judeans

30:00

would have done their sacrifice

30:02

right in the middle of the day. On

30:05

Friday. That's

30:07

when they would have done it, which is when

30:10

or sometime on that day time,

30:13

which is the Lord Jesus.

30:16

That's the the time when he is

30:18

dying, when the Passover lambs are being sacrificed

30:21

for the Judeans. Uh.

30:23

And the and the priestly, the priestly

30:26

Sadducees. So,

30:28

uh, the answer is yes

30:30

and no. Okay. Uh,

30:34

he he was being sacrificed at the same

30:36

time that the Sadducees

30:38

were offering their Passover sacrifices.

30:41

But not when the Pharisees

30:43

were. And the question that comes

30:46

up. And then there's evidence that there's this

30:48

in the rabbinic literature, that there was a disagreement

30:50

between the Pharisees and the Sadducees

30:52

about when to offer the sacrifice, and when the Galileans

30:55

and when the Judeans were

30:57

offering their sacrifices, their Passover

30:59

lambs. The. The.

31:02

The reason the priests allowed

31:04

this other one is that there were just so many

31:06

that they needed more time, and

31:09

so they allowed for the Galilean

31:11

approach to come down and offer their sacrifice

31:13

earlier.

31:14

So it was like a staggered sacrificing,

31:16

if you will. If you will.

31:17

Yeah, exactly. That's exactly it. Okay.

31:20

And and that explains that explains

31:23

the seeming contradiction okay.

31:25

So okay once once again

31:27

I, I just find Doctor

31:29

Horner. I didn't even know there was a problem

31:31

until I read Doctor Hunter's book and saw the solution.

31:34

Uh, but that was a long time ago when he was my

31:36

seminary prof. But that book, you

31:39

know, I read it in 1979

31:41

or 80. So over 40 years

31:43

ago, it holds up. I still go

31:45

back to it all the time. It is a little book,

31:47

really thin, still in print, an

31:49

academic book, uh,

31:52

but really helpful on

31:54

on chronological aspects of the life

31:56

of Christ.

31:57

So how many, how many lambs

31:59

are we would have been being sacrificed?

32:02

I mean, I don't know. I mean, is it is

32:05

it it would be one per family. Yeah.

32:08

Okay. And everyone was going to Jerusalem

32:10

to do this for Passover. They wouldn't do it

32:12

in Galilee.

32:14

No, they would do it in Jerusalem.

32:15

Okay. So everyone so it's kind

32:17

of like Jesus birth where I mean, where

32:19

everyone had to travel. Yeah.

32:21

To. But they're all traveling to Jerusalem

32:24

to do the sacrifices. Yeah.

32:25

And there were, there were also people we know

32:28

who were in town from the diaspora.

32:30

They came to Jerusalem for Passover

32:33

through Pentecost.

32:34

Because you had to do it at the temple. Yeah.

32:36

Okay. So there's lots

32:38

and lots of people here. Yeah.

32:41

Okay. Yeah.

32:42

That's explanation. So okay. They had to stagger

32:44

it. Yeah. Otherwise they couldn't have done it.

32:46

And and that's why they did it at two

32:49

different periods of time okay

32:51

okay. All right.

32:52

Okay. Well thank you for that question, Sue Ellen.

32:54

I'm glad you wrote us. Um, I

32:56

have another question from Facebook from Susan.

32:59

Um, the Bible states that it's appointed for man to

33:02

die once, and then comes the judgment.

33:04

How does that reconcile with the rapture,

33:06

where we will at once be changed,

33:08

not having died?

33:11

Mhm.

33:12

Well, I think that we have to take Hebrews 927

33:15

really, really as a general

33:17

principle, it's sort of like I

33:19

talk with people all the time and I say, well, you know,

33:21

everyone dies, we're all going to die,

33:24

we're all going to die. We're all going to die. Well,

33:26

I really don't believe we're all going to die. Because

33:29

I think there will be people who are raptured. But

33:32

we state this as

33:34

except for the rapture. Except

33:36

for normal. Except for

33:39

this unusual event that is promised.

33:42

It's appointed unto man once to die and then the

33:44

judgment. Of course, there are exceptions that we

33:46

know from before. Enoch didn't die.

33:49

Elijah didn't die. And

33:51

so. And they're not gonna. So

33:55

it's a general principle that

33:57

you find in Hebrews 927. But

34:00

regardless, the the point

34:02

in Hebrews isn't to

34:04

deal with every exception. The point

34:06

is that we all will face judgment

34:08

and whether we, uh,

34:11

whether we die or not,

34:13

every person will either face

34:16

those who are raptured, are going to be at

34:18

the judgment seat of, of Christ.

34:20

And so. That.

34:23

That's another. You know,

34:26

we're all going to face judgment. You know,

34:28

those of us who are believers, there's no condemnation.

34:31

Uh, but we will be, uh, standing

34:33

at the at the Bema Seat, the judgment seat of Christ.

34:36

So. Okay. Okay. Uh,

34:39

that's that's a a,

34:41

uh, it's just a general statement.

34:44

I guess I would say. Mhm.

34:45

Okay. All right. Thank you for that.

34:48

Do you have something else.

34:49

Yeah.

34:49

That you.

34:50

Of course. Uh, I have

34:52

this one from Robin. Um,

34:55

who emailed

34:57

and said that. Um.

35:01

She's a member of a denomination

35:03

that was

35:06

given the chance to disaffiliation

35:08

over um from

35:10

her denomination. Um.

35:14

Over the addition of some churches

35:16

of same sex marriages and gay pastors.

35:19

Uhhuh. Um, she

35:21

believes biblically that

35:23

those are sins all

35:26

sinners are welcome to worship, but doesn't

35:28

call it a right. She

35:31

likes her church, and she

35:33

loves her church and everyone in the pastor and his wife.

35:36

But. Would

35:38

like to not leave her church, but

35:40

is very troubled that her

35:43

church didn't separate. Over

35:45

this issue. Do you have any

35:47

advice? Should she leave

35:49

the church?

35:50

Well, here's the deal. Yeah. Uh,

35:52

I think that there are secondary

35:55

issues that a person might stay

35:57

or might not. You know, that's sort of a judgment

35:59

call. Right.

36:02

Secondary. Like whether women should

36:04

be elders or not. You

36:06

know, I personally don't think

36:08

so. You know, as I read the scriptures,

36:11

uh, but nevertheless, I

36:13

could see someone who agrees with me not leaving their

36:15

church if they decided the

36:17

church changed that. That's not a core

36:19

issue.

36:20

Or or a difference in

36:23

when the rapture will happen.

36:25

Yeah, those are not important. There's a lot

36:27

of these secondary issues. Yeah, but

36:29

but when I read First Corinthians

36:31

chapter six. Uh,

36:35

a lot of people want to say that whether or not a

36:37

person should accept gay marriage is not

36:39

a core issue. It's not. They

36:41

say. They say it's a secondary

36:44

issue. But here's what I'm reading.

36:46

First Corinthians chapter six.

36:49

Verse nine. Okay.

36:52

Don't you know that the unrighteous will not

36:54

inherit God's kingdom?

36:56

Do not be deceived. No

36:58

sexually immoral people.

37:02

That doesn't mean that people have failed, but say

37:04

that it's okay. Sexual immorality is not

37:06

immoral. Idolaters,

37:08

adulterers or anyone

37:11

practicing homosexuality?

37:14

No thieves, greedy people, drunkards,

37:16

verbally abusive people or swindlers

37:18

will inherit God's kingdom. What

37:21

he is saying is people who say that you

37:23

must embrace sin

37:25

and sin is acceptable.

37:29

Without repentance.

37:31

Uh.

37:32

That they won't inherit

37:34

God's kingdom and that includes same sex

37:36

relationships. So therefore

37:39

I think that that is a core issue.

37:41

Now verse 11 says, some of you used

37:43

to be like this, but you were washed, you were sanctified,

37:46

you were justified in the name of the

37:48

Lord Jesus. And so it seems

37:50

to me that, uh, that

37:53

the, the solution is that

37:55

is a core issue. And I couldn't stay

37:57

in a church that that

37:59

held to that. But there's always deliverance.

38:02

There's always forgiveness by trusting in the

38:04

name of the Lord Jesus, putting our trust

38:06

in his death and resurrection. Thanks

38:08

to those questions, Tricia, we're going to be right back.

38:11

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And we're going to speak with uh,

39:14

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39:16

right in West Palm Beach, Florida listening

39:18

and would be welcome to Open Line. Julia,

39:20

how can I help you?

39:22

Thank you.

39:23

Yes, sir. I would like to

39:25

know about Habakkuk three, uh,

39:28

verse three and said, God

39:30

came from Teman. Mhm.

39:33

And the Holy One from the Mount Salah.

39:37

His glory covered the heavens,

39:39

and the earth was full of his faith. Could

39:41

you explain that to me, please?

39:44

I wish I could. Uh, I'll do

39:46

my best here. Uh, I

39:48

think that this is,

39:51

uh, in Habakkuk.

39:53

He's he's hearkening back to

39:55

the Exodus because those are

39:58

the areas where God, uh,

40:01

delivered. Uh,

40:03

Israel from the Exodus and.

40:07

And, uh, uh, tame

40:09

in Mount Paran. His splendor

40:12

covers the heavens. The earth is full of his praise.

40:14

He's saying basically that

40:16

just as God delivered Israel at the

40:18

Exodus, so he will deliver

40:21

Israel in the future.

40:23

That's that's what that's talking

40:25

about. Uh, I hope that helps.

40:28

A lot of Israelis and the

40:31

Hebrew people they come from.

40:36

Uh, we're going to speak next with

40:38

Mark in Crosby,

40:40

Minnesota listening on K.

40:42

Tig, welcome to Open

40:44

Line. How can I help you, Mark?

40:46

Hey. Good morning Michael. Good

40:49

morning. Um, well, my question was,

40:51

how about, uh, from Matthew 822,

40:54

where Jesus had told the, uh, man

40:56

that the dead bury their dead. As

40:59

soon as though he was, um, the man was trying

41:01

to bury his father. In

41:03

a way, um, the statement

41:06

that Jesus made about the dead burying the dead

41:08

kind of seemed to go against Jesus's nature

41:10

in a way. Um, because to

41:13

me, the statement sounded, uh, fairly

41:15

callous. Um, versus

41:17

when he would be talking to the Sadducees and Pharisees,

41:20

um, who are self-righteous. But

41:23

to me, it sounded like someone of a contrite heart.

41:26

Um, so it was just a little

41:28

confusing to me. I haven't done any time

41:30

to actually do any research into it

41:32

yet, but I was just kind of curious. You guys

41:34

take. Well.

41:37

Uh, I think the

41:39

the answer seems to be that

41:41

the Lord Jesus said to him, if you read Luke,

41:43

he says, you follow me. And, uh, and

41:46

he said, I first let me go bury my father.

41:50

Uh, I think that we might think,

41:52

oh, boy, isn't that harsh. Let the dead bury the dead.

41:55

Except that likely this was the firstborn.

41:57

And he said, I really would like to stay home.

42:00

Until my father passes away. And then

42:02

I'll bury him. I'll receive the double inheritance,

42:05

and then I'll follow you. And

42:08

the Lord Jesus said, no, I need you to

42:11

follow me now. Let the dead bury the dead.

42:13

Apparently the father wasn't

42:15

even dead yet. And that's why the Lord

42:17

Jesus said what he did. Does

42:20

that mean?

42:20

I hadn't done any research into it, and I figured there was

42:22

some type of background as far as,

42:24

uh, um, Jewish culture, more than likely.

42:27

But I was just kind of curious.

42:28

So, yeah, he was he was delaying

42:31

his, you know, when the Lord Jesus.

42:34

There, there. When you look here in Luke.

42:39

Uh, what are we looking at? Market. Yeah,

42:41

market. My Bible flip pages.

42:44

Uh, in Mark eight when it says that. Uh,

42:48

you look in the context and,

42:52

uh, he said, I prescribes

42:54

that I'll follow wherever you will go.

42:56

And he says, yeah, but, uh,

42:59

you have to give up your security. The Son of Man has nowhere

43:01

to lay his head. You're not

43:03

going to be able to, you know, think

43:05

about it. If you really follow me, there's no security.

43:08

The only security you have is me. And

43:11

then he said, uh, let

43:14

me go bury my father so I can get the

43:16

inheritance. That's the idea.

43:18

And he said, let the dead bury the dead. You have to follow

43:21

me. And I

43:23

will be your inheritance. That's

43:25

that's the point. So. Okay.

43:28

Uh, it's a it's a demand for

43:30

immediate, uh, obedience

43:34

to following the Messiah. Uh,

43:37

and, boy, that. Wouldn't that be a great reminder for us

43:39

now? You know, he calls us not

43:41

for later, but for now to

43:43

serve him no matter what. Uh, I

43:45

hope that I hope that's a great reminder

43:47

for me. No matter what,

43:50

right now, that's what I have to do. What he says.

43:52

Thanks for your call. I really appreciate it. We're going

43:54

to speak next with,

43:56

uh, Nisha Nihar in

43:59

Butler, Pennsylvania. WKF

44:01

welcome to Open Line, Nia.

44:04

Good morning. Um, thank you for taking my

44:06

call. I have two questions.

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Um, the first question is when Christ

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returns on the Mount of Olives,

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what role will the people

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who return with him have the raptured

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ones? And the second question was,

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how do those left behind at

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the rapture come to faith if

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the Holy Spirit is taken up as well?

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Well, uh, let's see.

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How much time have I got here? Number one, I think

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revelation 19, uh, where

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it talks about the marriage

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supper of the lamb, the the church is

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clothed, the bride is clothed

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in white. And then when the Lord

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Jesus descends to save Israel

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on the Mount of Olives, based on Zechariah

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14, Zechariah 12, the

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church descends with him. Those who have been raptured

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descends with him, uh,

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resurrected and raptured, and they

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help their part of the battle to

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deliver Israel. Uh,

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and the church will fulfill their

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responsibility, really,

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in a special way. Unlike the past

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history of anti-Semitism, they will be there

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to deliver Israel, uh,

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at the end of days when when

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the campaign of Armageddon is going on.

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And your second question,

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uh, is the Holy Spirit really

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isn't taken away, the verse in

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Thessalonians where it talks about, uh,

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the restrainer being removed, that's

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the restraint, the Holy Spirit's

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restraint of evil through the

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church. The church is removed at

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the rapture, and the Holy Spirit's restraint

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through the Church of Evil

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is removed. But that

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doesn't mean the Holy Spirit is removed, because it

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talks about how the Holy Spirit will

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fall and that will cause, uh,

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Israel. Uh,

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to believe, uh, at

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the at the return of Jesus. So,

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uh, no, I don't think the Holy Spirit

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leaves. And that's as as a result

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of that, there will be people who

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will be saved, uh, during

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the tribulation and culminating

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at the end of the tribulation

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as well. So I hope that

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hope that helps you with that. That's

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the program for the week. Thanks for listening,

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