How do you translate a TV format to Voice? This and much more was shared by KRO-NCRVs Lieneke Grollé. She told about the initial start with award winning Chefkok Binnenstebuite, popular kids game Willem Wever and interactive storyline "Uit het nest" (stories from the nest) and how they are combining the learnings into the development of "De slimste mens" (the smartest person).