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I'm. Oprah Winfrey, Welcome to
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Super So Conversations. The Podcast
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I believe that one of the
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most valuable gives you can give
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yourself. His time taking
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time to be more
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fully present your. Journey
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to become more inspired. And
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connected to the deeper world
1:17
around us. starts right now.
1:21
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Every insight you've experienced from the
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see that. Each. Person On Earth.
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spiritual course, Your.
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Soul. Is. As unique
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as your fingerprint. And
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the journey. To. Connect to the
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deepest. Part of yourself. Can.
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Only be explored by you. I
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have gleaned great understanding from all
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of these conversations and come to
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know. That. As long
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you asking the right questions, Of
2:02
yourself. The. Answers will
2:05
readily reveal themselves. Who.
2:08
Do you want to be? How
2:11
can you allow who you want
2:13
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2:15
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What Is the soul? Food.
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Now you're asking a mysterious and
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you. The when I look in
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the mirror I noticed that I
5:27
rage to who, right? Yeah, a
5:29
few more wrinkles last of either
5:31
up here. Whatever. But that's not
5:33
who you are. That body. Who
5:35
you are is the spirit that
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was born in this body. For
5:39
you are as the spirit as
5:41
hearing these words and sensing the
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Hawaiian tropical breeze. and who you
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are is timeless and. Unborn
5:48
and not limited by this body and
5:50
mind. And if you want to use
5:52
the word soul for that, that would
5:54
be fine. That. Was
5:56
great. Now. Let's hear from
5:59
Elizabeth lesser. We. Were
6:01
saying how hard it is to say what the solace. Do
6:04
you have words? While. I also
6:06
found myself saying that the soul
6:08
is is like a silent music
6:10
inside. Quiet, beautiful
6:13
song. That you
6:15
were given to saying
6:17
here on earth that.
6:20
Universe God wants you to
6:22
sing your song. And
6:25
that's the. Sole the song. This
6:28
is Diane in I. A.
6:32
Soul is your spirit that your
6:34
love of humanity and here believe
6:36
that is more the new their
6:38
people before us that you you
6:40
could lead to look at the
6:42
discovery of an ancient city and
6:44
realized that those people lived and
6:46
they love than they danced. And
6:48
they eight and they suffered And
6:50
they lived just as we are.
6:52
So there have been so many
6:54
forty and sixty and eighty, your
6:56
lives, billions of them and we
6:58
all have souls and I I
7:00
I feel their collective souls. Such.
7:03
A good lesson and reminder.
7:06
Next is Arianna Huffington. This
7:09
song is who I am. The
7:11
soreness for you are. And.
7:15
It is one breath away. The
7:18
body. Is what
7:20
allows us will have on his
7:22
experiences. That means
7:24
that we can evolve through our lives
7:26
but who are rarely are is assault.
7:30
And that's why we need to remember
7:32
to bring it with us. Forever were
7:34
doing. Bring it with us to work.
7:36
Bring it with us on vacation. Because
7:38
that's what I'll gladly will be left. India
7:42
are we. What? Is the
7:44
sole. The. Real Use. You.
7:47
Do Not. Have a Soul. You.
7:50
Are a you have a
7:52
body. Marked
7:54
Meebo. What Is the
7:56
soul? Soul is
7:58
the. I'm in
8:01
center of universal spirit that
8:03
seeds each human being who
8:05
that's good. You're a poet.
8:09
Plastic mean since. God
8:13
I'll Test is a common
8:15
center. Of
8:17
a universal being and
8:19
spirit that sees every.
8:23
Single human being saw That's
8:25
good. That's really says. Is
8:29
it print that specific? Other races? The
8:31
hereditary, the around Us. Daniel
8:33
T. Audi defined
8:36
so so as I think our capacity to
8:38
see that are lives are about something more
8:40
than simply day to day. With that we're
8:42
here for a purpose. That it it could
8:44
be connected to religion or not that there
8:46
is a purpose of you are being here
8:48
right? That's that's really how I look at
8:50
it. And you can do that.
8:52
We either believing in of of organized religion
8:54
or no not right. But. Interesting
8:57
how it all is connected to the
8:59
same thing. So your soul is believing
9:01
in something bigger than yourself, or that
9:04
there's a greater purpose. Your.
9:06
Desire. For autonomy and your desire
9:08
for meaning and your work is all
9:11
about the same things, and that is
9:13
what gives you drive. And that is
9:15
what makes your day better today than
9:17
it was yesterday, right? It's all connected,
9:19
right? A circle of life. My son
9:21
who is. Debbie.
9:23
Ford. A soulless,
9:25
a part of us and never dies.
9:27
It's what we come in with. I
9:30
don't think you sincere that. I think
9:32
it's who we are at our core
9:34
and carries all the messages and the
9:36
lessons at least learned and the past
9:39
and will carry all the lessons and
9:41
innocence is that we will carry into
9:43
the theater. A card?
9:45
Totally. The soul
9:48
is one of the was
9:50
one can use to talk
9:52
about your innermost beings. A
9:54
presence that you are beyond
9:56
farm that was aren't allies.
9:59
The personality. And
10:01
the mind. The
10:03
essence of who you are. Llewellyn.
10:06
Von Li. A
10:09
soul is a divine part of up of ourselves. It's
10:11
a divine nature as a part of us that is
10:13
one with got. Everybody
10:16
has a soul, it is, and the
10:18
immortal paternal part of ourselves. Never.
10:20
Dies Never Dies. Tomato.
10:23
Belongs to got. Thomas.
10:26
More. The. Saw a
10:28
loves to Be Attached. The.
10:30
Soul will attach itself. That's what we
10:33
have. Soul mate soul mates were attached
10:35
to that. The I'm A really attached.
10:37
You know when you call? Talk about
10:39
a Soulmate and were attached the families
10:42
and to our kids into pets and
10:44
to things even objects. Even things that
10:46
we have. We become attached as a
10:48
sign of a real soulful life. A
10:51
You're able to make that attachment. Elizabeth.
10:54
Lesser. You're the reason
10:57
we asked this question. Because.
10:59
In the Seekers guide
11:01
their his spirituality and
11:04
then religion with insurance.
11:07
Well. Okay, last
11:09
Hour with Spirituality Spirituality is
11:11
this kind of. Fearless
11:14
seeking. Nature. Like. It's
11:17
the part of us that says
11:19
wow, What made a tree? Who
11:21
am I? Where did I come
11:23
from? What means something out of
11:25
nothing? Where do I go when
11:27
I die? How. Do I
11:29
love how much much to live that
11:31
spirituality? the seeking? Of
11:34
truce it takes fearlessness to
11:36
seek after truth. Sometimes we'd rather
11:38
just live, go through the
11:40
paces so that spirituality, religion
11:42
are our. Attempts to
11:44
answer the questions and some of
11:46
those answers or crate and beautiful as
11:49
some of them are just. Dogma.
11:51
And rules that get us into
11:53
trouble. My rules are better than
11:55
your rules. And then we fight
11:57
about him. went spirituality or the.
12:00
Questions and religion are so our
12:02
attempts to answer them. Pima.
12:05
Children. How do you
12:07
define spirituality vs religion with his
12:10
personality? He at it
12:12
like going out and the both. By
12:14
getting until behold and leaving the
12:16
shore and going out where you
12:18
can't see the shoreline anymore and
12:20
you're not really sure. If.
12:23
He ever gonna get back because it's. Philo
12:25
has to. That's right, and I guess.
12:28
There would be a lot of different
12:30
ways people would talk about religion, but
12:32
now days I think we think of
12:34
it unfortunately as that which separates people.
12:37
Like people holding on to the
12:39
lease or spirituality. it could be
12:42
definition that it's about going beyond
12:44
the lease. maybe? I love that.
12:47
That's what I mean about when you
12:49
stop being six, About how it has
12:51
to be who you have to be
12:53
and you let it. It
12:55
becomes more like a river in were
12:57
like a river than Iraq if you
13:00
know. For instance I think like it
13:02
keeps moving forward because he had some
13:04
natural that is that. These are being
13:06
human is I think so. He.
13:08
On Levin's and. Religion
13:11
is. The. Rules, regulations, ceremonies
13:13
and rituals developed by Man
13:15
to create conformity and uniformity
13:17
in the approach to. Spirituality.
13:23
Is. God's call in yourself. Do
13:26
on Franklin. Is
13:28
there a difference in your
13:30
mind or lies between spirituality?
13:33
And Religion. Yes,
13:35
I think that religion sometimes is the
13:38
structure for spirits. Well, I think the
13:40
spirituality can exist even outside of religious
13:42
and but I do believe that most
13:45
religions came to be because they wanted
13:47
to help people understand how to navigate
13:49
this life from a spiritual. Can you
13:52
be spiritual and not religious? Absolute? Can
13:54
you be religious and not spiritual? Absolutely.
13:57
One hundred, unfortunately. Yes, Sister.
14:00
Joan Sinister. Well
14:03
as said that pointing at the
14:05
moment pointing at them as that
14:07
religion is pointing at the that's
14:09
right Yeah religion is not the
14:11
ultimate Religion is is not itself
14:13
the moon but it is meant
14:15
to help I see the moon
14:17
and to to require us to.
14:19
Reach For Do believe that there
14:21
are many ways to point towards
14:23
the. Moon. Oh absolutely as many as
14:25
there are people it's and do some
14:27
thanks yeah that is a pointing at
14:29
the moon wherever you are and then
14:32
we use you Believe. That that's what all
14:34
religions are doing pointing towards the I do. Doctor
14:38
Maya Angelou. Religion.
14:40
Is that a map? It can help you to see
14:43
how to get where you want to go. All
14:45
he does his show you have to get
14:47
there is some ma'am Ma'am. Yeah.
14:50
And. Spirituality for humans. Oh.
14:53
Surrender. And surrender.
14:55
Have to. I'm. Nate.
14:57
Berkus. Do.
14:59
You consider yourself a spiritual person
15:02
or a religious person. Spiritual. What
15:04
is a difference? I
15:07
grew up in a very traditional Jewish.
15:10
Culture. And religion. But religion
15:12
wasn't as important as the cultural things
15:14
around it. And for me, I just
15:16
defining be more spiritual than religious means
15:18
that I'm not tied to the religion
15:20
that I was raised with. I can
15:22
find my spirituality and anything and I
15:24
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15:26
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15:30
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Been Braun. It's. Religion.
17:08
Says there's only one way. To.
17:11
Heaven Spirituality says. Choose
17:14
the one that brings you joy. Gabriele
17:17
Bernstein. I think
17:19
people find there's reality through religion
17:21
but I think spirituality is a
17:23
art for crap we can create
17:25
earth or for understanding of our
17:27
own could have a got of
17:30
on understanding. We can find God
17:32
through Qatar, can find gods, the
17:34
swimming. Through. Aerobics through.
17:36
For. Their that. But evidence. I think
17:39
that religion is something we are tie in
17:41
search reality, something we learn and sees herself.
17:45
Charles. I've seen. You
17:47
wrote an essay asking. Readers To stop
17:49
feeding the hate the stems from thinking
17:51
that they are better than anyone else
17:53
because you believe that all people are
17:56
suffering from actually the same womb. So
17:58
what do you think is. The
18:01
world's greatest one. May I call
18:03
it the wound of separation? Yeah set.
18:05
It's the south experience of being cut
18:08
off from all that were meant to
18:10
intimately connected to. And
18:12
then. From that police
18:14
feeding the hate you know? Online
18:17
comments that are all about putting
18:20
someone down for almost feels good.
18:22
To make jokes at the expense of somebody
18:25
else but does really feel good and it
18:27
feels good in that moment. For people, I
18:29
think there are people who feel really good
18:31
when they can get off on a line
18:33
on social media and they think they actually
18:35
hurt somebody. Yes, But. I think this
18:37
reality based culture do whatever is
18:39
necessary, say whatever you need. You
18:41
come out the victor no matter
18:43
what. At any expense, I think
18:45
it's trains us to believe that
18:47
being snarky, Is fulfilling? I think maybe
18:50
that's. The good feeling. Seems
18:52
to me take a similar to
18:54
this. To the feeling of getting or
18:57
shifts are getting of Philadelphia the I was you feel
18:59
good for Guinea Bissau. But
19:01
it doesn't swayed. the
19:03
underlying has. Underlying
19:06
Greece. President
19:08
Jimmy Carter, What? Do you
19:10
think is our world's greatest wound? I.
19:13
Say the inequity among people.
19:15
they have an ability of.
19:18
People. Who are deprived. Because
19:21
of their birth, Of because of our prime status.
19:24
To. Strive for on accomplishment
19:26
of success and the oppression
19:28
that is exerted by the
19:30
powerful and rich people. To
19:33
stay and on ascendant. Position.
19:36
In society, economically and culturally
19:38
and so forth. So how
19:40
to easy last, participate in
19:42
healing? The. World's Greatest When. You
19:45
know I would say that. The
19:48
Human Society read see
19:50
Apex or epitome off
19:52
of more ethical commitment.
19:55
Shortly. After the Second world
19:58
war when they decided. Don't
20:00
have any more. Force.
20:02
Will form the United Nations and every
20:05
pass a Universal Declaration of Human Rights
20:07
and I think that exemplifies or personifies
20:09
off clarifies the essence of moral and
20:12
ethical values that we derive from all
20:14
the great religions. Sees.
20:16
Human Rights, equity, and so forth.
20:18
And we. Have
20:21
now banned on. That.
20:23
Deep and penetrating. an
20:25
exalted commitment. To. Have
20:28
peace and equality of opportunity among all
20:30
people as a essence of human rights.
20:33
Shonda. Rhimes. So.
20:35
What do you believe is the world's. Greatest
20:38
wound. Ah,
20:42
Our inability to realize that were all the same.
20:46
Jack. Can feel. I.
20:49
Think the greatest moon we've all experienced
20:51
is somehow being rejected for being are
20:53
authentic self and that is result of
20:55
that. We then try to be what
20:57
we're not to get approval love, protection.
21:00
Save the money, whatever. And that the
21:02
real, the real need for all of
21:04
us is to reconnect with the essence
21:06
of who we really are and in
21:09
Rio, nor the disown parts of ourselves
21:11
litres, or emotions. Whether it's are spirituality,
21:13
we'll all go on hiding parts of
21:15
ourselves. Passer.
21:17
Lindley tips. What?
21:20
He thinks the root of racism. The.
21:22
Root of Racism is fear. And
21:25
the root of see
21:27
her is. I
21:30
think the rejection of what got
21:32
creamed you'd be a god didn't
21:34
create us for fear. She.
21:37
Didn't create a for fear, He
21:39
didn't create us for anger and
21:41
and create us for all this
21:43
negativity. Be. On the then
21:46
sent. So what is
21:48
the root of racism in your opinion? What?
21:50
Superiority Superiority An inferiority that
21:53
dates back to how this
21:55
country was created, the fact
21:58
that it was stolen. He
22:00
wouldn't dolan from my and senators. we
22:02
won't tell the is about that either.
22:05
So is superiority. And dishonesty.
22:09
That is the root of racism. Dishonesty.
22:12
I'm superior because I said
22:15
so. I'm superior because I
22:17
have this: a judo isn't
22:19
on superior because. I. Choose
22:22
to be an. I'm
22:24
not. Making you inferior.
22:27
But because you're not like mean. You
22:29
are. Because. You
22:32
don't look like me because you don't have would I
22:34
have because you don't do what I do. So.
22:37
Racism. Violence. Dishonesty.
22:41
And exists. And until we tell the
22:43
truth. About. It and deal with it. had a.
22:47
Deal with his at all. Starts with a
22:49
conversation. though honest. everything starts with a conversation.
22:51
Oh, Yeah, we gotta have the
22:53
conversation that as an African. American
22:56
man. In this country you are
22:58
not safe from the people who
23:00
are interested to protect to is
23:02
simply on Oprah. We got a
23:04
had a conversation. And then
23:07
we got of. Once we have the to be
23:09
then you gotta get people to accept that that
23:11
is tried and knowledge knowledge that that is true
23:13
because we say something that the I said it
23:15
that else. Pastor
23:18
A. Your Bernard. What?
23:20
Is the root of racism? Fear
23:23
And Fear. Fear
23:25
of the unknown Fear that drives
23:28
us to the shapes and are
23:30
thinking by stereotypes by prejudices by
23:32
biases by things that we don't
23:34
even know about the other person
23:37
as why love to sit down
23:39
and have person tell me a
23:41
story. And I've
23:43
done that with so many people from
23:45
so many walks of life, people with
23:48
lifestyles totally different from mine, diametrically opposed
23:50
to mind. Some time and I listen
23:52
to this story and I share my
23:55
story. Know the sudden a bond
23:57
of relationship was created. Shonda
24:00
Rhimes. Racing. Is
24:02
a sphere Yeah And how can
24:04
we began to have a conversation?
24:07
That doesn't scare everybody I know. Everyone
24:09
is so afraid to have the conversation.
24:12
I think everyone is so afraid that
24:14
if they have the conversation very they're
24:16
calling someone a racist or they're being
24:18
called. Racist or their send. Say the
24:20
wrong thing. I feel like if you
24:22
can't have the conversation, you can't make
24:24
anything changed. Since the
24:26
same core. The. Rude Racism
24:29
Presidents. Fear
24:31
of Edward. We. Are
24:33
so afraid to say auto.
24:37
The. I don't know what slow to live in the
24:39
Who? Were. Will notice like
24:41
to live in the suburbs. Is
24:43
so where we do is we
24:45
vilify those plays and we create
24:47
this idea of others. Are we
24:50
come from their unique experiences and
24:52
this okay. And like
24:54
wants me to. All that is okay. Or
24:57
pre weeds grow tremendously. Cheryl
25:01
strayed. I. Think
25:03
the root of racism. Isn't
25:07
this false? Notion of the
25:09
other Us and them. That.
25:11
Kind of divide. That
25:13
maybe were not born with that that were taught
25:15
so early on. yet. Again, it's interesting.
25:17
It's connected to Scarcity. It's
25:20
like we are this tribe and they are
25:22
that try than these people are dismisses and
25:24
that that that idea that we have to
25:26
hold power. And. Said Sarah. Love.
25:31
Tracy. Morgan. Everybody talks
25:33
dell about all the stuff going on in
25:35
the world and the violence of with what
25:37
do you think is the root of racism.
25:40
Fried. Fried. Or
25:44
for the my bet is nobody. Is
25:47
only men way. Fun
25:49
for me. Demar Derozan The racism.
25:53
To have to stay created. Yet
25:57
to stay creative, you are really
25:59
transcendent. Doctor. Christian
26:01
Northrop. Why? Do you
26:03
think we're actually here though? Daughter off, of
26:05
what is the purpose of human experience? Ah,
26:08
Well. The Earth I sent. can
26:10
the Talmud said this isn't the Earth
26:12
is the densest place. It's matter which
26:14
comes from the reward from mother. By
26:16
the way, It's the
26:19
densest place. In the Universe.
26:21
And when you can will. Lighten up
26:24
here. You set
26:26
the entire universe. That's what I think
26:28
so that when you take a grease
26:30
or it's like a symbol of his
26:33
so a symbol that the instruments a
26:35
symbol. Okay, so if you just
26:37
go around a symbol and you do this
26:39
to the air, nothing happens to the symbol,
26:41
right? Nothing. But when you bang that sucker.
26:44
The reverberations go through time
26:46
and space. We're here as
26:48
symbols to raise our vibration.
26:51
So that when you. Heal
26:53
your. Life and I heal. Mine lies.
26:57
That changes the whole universe.
26:59
That's what I said. Wow,
27:01
that is good system. That
27:03
is good sister. Timothy.
27:07
Shriver. Why? Do you
27:09
think we're all here? What do you
27:11
think? The reason for this human experience?
27:13
I think we were what here to
27:15
learn to love unconditionally them every fiber
27:18
and send you in our bodies and
27:20
him and universe. I think we're here
27:22
for the glory of the idea that
27:24
we are united. You you know, I
27:27
think we think we're all divided. Addressing
27:29
you know like you sit here thinking you're
27:32
not the same as me and I think
27:34
I'm not the same your our separate him
27:36
and if ally. For
27:38
lie. Were not separate. And
27:42
soon as we get close to
27:44
that, as soon as we trust
27:46
that, who knows why we're here.
27:49
Louis Schwartzberg. What
27:52
do you think is the purpose
27:54
of human experience? To
27:57
be connected. With
27:59
a living. The Universe. and realize you're just playing
28:01
a small part in that. Gretchen
28:04
reading. I think
28:07
our purpose is to. Accept
28:09
ourselves and. Expect more from
28:11
ourselves to understand who we are
28:13
and to expect ourselves to live
28:16
up to that. I feel better
28:18
leave better than we came yes
28:20
set of them before. Mark
28:23
Lipo. I think
28:25
that. The purpose of
28:27
the human experience is for the soul.
28:31
To blossom in human form here
28:33
on Earth. Rather
28:35
than finding heaven on earth I
28:38
think we are asked to release
28:40
have him by living on earth.
28:43
Oh, that's correct. Oh, that's so
28:45
good that makes me want to
28:48
cry. I never thought of that
28:50
before. You preach the day, assess
28:52
a. Jet
28:55
Cornfield. What? Do
28:57
you think is the purpose. Of human experience.
28:59
To learn to love and to
29:01
learn to be free and to
29:03
learn to be sincere or maybe
29:05
another language would be to remember
29:07
who we really are. He knows
29:10
you, remember the sacredness that you
29:12
are born with are. You optimistic
29:14
about the human race? I'm
29:17
completely optimistic it's to wildly mysterious
29:20
and yes things can get bad
29:22
but I see we are growing
29:24
and learning and just as we've
29:27
learned all these our developments now
29:29
is our time to match those
29:32
with a developments of the heart
29:34
and I see it spreading and
29:36
I believe it's I have tremendous
29:39
respect for was possible. Thank you
29:41
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