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I believe that one of the most valuable gifts

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you can give yourself is

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time. Taking time

1:00

to be more fully present.

1:03

Your journey to become more inspired

1:05

and connected to the deeper world

1:07

around us starts right

1:10

now. He

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has beautifully blended Eastern

1:18

and Western spiritual

1:21

principles. All

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right, you Agape people. Agape's

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1:40

So he's, he, he, isn't he the

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perfect blend of Eastern, Western? With

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a devout international following. He leads

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one of the most progressive

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churches. Right

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here in Los Angeles,

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Michael Bernard Beckwith. is

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here to tell us how

2:05

we can participate in

2:07

our own unfolding.

2:16

Peace

2:23

and mighty riches blessings to you. Oprah

2:25

really knows how to do it, doesn't she? It

2:29

is my joy and my honor to

2:31

participate in this magnificent Super Soul Sessions.

2:34

And I just want to say my mother's name, Alice

2:37

Geneva Beckwith out loud, because she would have been

2:39

here. She would have been here with me. And

2:42

as Oprah Winfrey reminded us, you

2:44

know, we're establishing a divine intentionality

2:46

for our life for when we

2:48

have intention, the energy flows in

2:50

that direction. So my intention with

2:53

you is to connect with you on the soul

2:55

level and allow you to hear what I am

2:57

listening to. Because you're not

2:59

only listening to what I'm saying, you're

3:01

listening to what I'm listening to, the

3:04

broadcast of the universal presence of God,

3:06

love, beauty, joy, intelligence, by

3:08

whatever name you choose to call it. There

3:11

is an eternal broadcast that's always happening

3:13

and we're here to tune in, to

3:15

listen into it, and then to be

3:17

its expression, to be its mouthpiece,

3:20

to be its instrumentality through which

3:22

we get to live a bold,

3:25

magnificent and mighty life. The

3:27

theme of my particular talk

3:29

is participating in your own

3:32

unfolding, participating in your own

3:34

unfolding. We always begin with

3:36

an awareness that as a

3:38

spiritual being having a human incarnation,

3:41

that there is so much good and

3:43

so much beauty and so much love,

3:45

so much intelligence, so much power that's

3:47

already locked within you, loaded And

3:50

coded within you from the

3:52

very presence of love itself

3:54

and that you've entered into

3:57

this particular incarnation. Not missing

3:59

anything. You've entered into this

4:01

incoordination us not from any kind

4:03

of original sin, original flaws which

4:05

you entered into this incarnation as

4:07

an original blessing from the mind

4:09

of a universal spirits and that

4:11

you are here to perfectly reflects.

4:14

And to reveal the cosmos in a

4:16

way that only you can do it

4:18

as a unique express. His of

4:20

infinite potential. Somebody says

4:23

yes. And

4:26

so when we deal with a

4:28

word unfolding were under coming to

4:30

an understanding that we're not in

4:32

this world to get anything as

4:34

we are in this world to

4:36

let something unfold from within us.

4:38

You are along that dynamic good

4:40

to unfold from within your very

4:42

being. It's just as a roles

4:44

a seed unfolds and produces roses.

4:47

There's nothing that that seed is missing.

4:49

It begins to be in the right

4:51

conditions so that it's infinite potential can

4:54

show up as a rose bush and

4:56

then a plethora. Of rose bushes

4:58

as well. You are a divine and

5:00

a perfect spiritual idea. There was something

5:02

within you that is. Unique, mighty, and

5:05

a magnificent. And you're here to

5:07

have to reveal his. And then

5:09

here's the deal you get to

5:11

participate. In your own opposing,

5:13

it is not. Happenstance is

5:15

not accidental. You're not waiting around for

5:18

the laws of evolution of to shift the

5:20

condition so that you can become yourself as

5:22

the spiritual image and likeness of God. Us

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and I. Perhaps you know people say that

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a lot. Well, it doesn't get broken down

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at times. In other words, no one really

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knows what that means. The image and likeness

5:32

of God. What does that mean? It does

5:34

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6:56

think independent of any condition that's going

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on in your life. So you can be sitting

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here today at Super Soul

7:03

Sessions. Something can be going

7:05

on in your life but you can begin

7:07

to think from a higher level. You can

7:10

begin to embrace a higher intentionality. You

7:12

can begin to embrace a higher vision.

7:14

You can begin to think independent

7:17

of that circumstance and then watch

7:19

as that circumstance begins to

7:21

change based on the changing

7:23

of your own octave, your own vibration

7:25

and your own frequency. So you

7:27

are here to

7:29

participate in your own

7:31

unfolding. I break

7:34

this down sometimes by coming

7:36

to an understanding or bringing individuals

7:38

to understanding that we move

7:40

through four stages of spiritual growth

7:42

development and unfoldment. Stages are

7:44

infinite of course but just for the

7:46

sake of brevity and just

7:48

for the sake of 25 minutes

7:53

there are four stages that we have a tendency

7:55

to move through. The first stage

7:57

is the stage of the victim.

8:00

This is where individuals, and you're here

8:02

in this particular session, probably not too

8:05

many victims here. At least

8:07

those who won't confess to it. But

8:11

the victim stage, these are individuals that

8:13

have a tendency to have a

8:15

perception that something outside of

8:17

themselves determines their destiny. Something

8:20

outside of themselves determines their happiness,

8:22

some condition, some person, some place,

8:25

some thing. Something can make

8:28

them happy. Or something

8:30

outside of themselves or someone outside

8:33

of themselves can determine their destiny

8:35

or make them sad. They're giving

8:37

up their power to something external.

8:40

And every victim has a

8:42

victim story. Somebody did

8:45

it to me story. It's

8:47

somebody's fault. It's somebody's, somebody

8:49

is to blame as to why I'm

8:51

not happy. And they're

8:53

unaware that it is

8:56

their limited perception and

8:58

the thoughts that are emerging

9:00

from that perception that's determining

9:03

their particular experience and

9:05

ultimately the conditions in their life. Are you

9:08

picking up what I'm putting down? You catching

9:10

it? And so the

9:12

victim is living in

9:14

this state of thinking that the

9:16

world is against them. The world,

9:18

people are determining their circumstances. They're

9:20

more concerned about what other people

9:22

are thinking about what they're thinking

9:25

than more concerned about the presence and

9:27

what the presence of love and beauty

9:30

is thinking about you. And

9:32

so we have a tendency to experience not

9:34

reality. We have a

9:36

tendency to experience our thinking about

9:39

reality. Case in point, a

9:42

few years, a number of years ago, I was leaving a

9:45

peace conference. And I can

9:47

remember this very vividly because the last

9:49

time that I saw Yolanda King alive,

9:51

she was a member of the Agape community and we

9:53

said our goodbyes. That was the last time I saw

9:55

her the next week. She had made her transition, so

9:57

it always sticks out of my mind. And

10:00

so I get to the airport and at

10:02

that time, uncustomarily early because

10:04

we're always running late but

10:08

getting there all the time. So

10:10

I'm at the airport and I realize that my suitcase

10:14

doesn't have a name tag on it. So

10:16

I go behind the counter, I get some name

10:18

tags and I'm putting it on my suitcase and

10:20

I notice this police officer staring

10:22

at me. And

10:24

so, and he's really riveting, staring at

10:26

me. So I think to myself, did

10:29

I do something wrong by going around the counter

10:32

here? And I had noticed

10:34

that from time to time I had been pulled

10:36

out of line rather frequently to be extra checked

10:38

and one time they checked me

10:40

so good I went back for seconds because

10:42

they touched the face and was like, ooh,

10:45

can you touch right there please? Anyway,

10:48

so I'm thinking these thoughts, you know, why is

10:50

he staring at me? And then he gets on

10:53

his microphone and the

10:55

next thing I know there's another police officer standing there. All

10:58

these thoughts are going through my mind, you know, is this

11:00

going to be some kind of harassment? What's

11:02

going on here? And so I bend

11:05

down to put my name on the luggage

11:07

and I'm trying to ignore him. But

11:10

you know what happens when you ignore someone. The

11:12

energy is connected. So

11:15

the last thing I know, I feel them standing behind me

11:18

and I hear that he says, sir? And

11:20

I say, yes. He said, my

11:22

wife and I have drawn a line in the

11:25

sand about life ever since we saw

11:27

him in that movie The Secret. And

11:31

we were staring at you because we wanted to make

11:33

sure that was really you because you

11:36

changed my life and you changed the life

11:38

of my family and I'm going to go off

11:40

now and I'm going to retire and I'm going

11:42

to finally pursue my dreams. I just wanted to

11:44

meet you. And so here I am

11:46

in the airport hugging these police officers who

11:50

are really peace officers. And

11:52

here's the point. I

11:54

was having an experience of my

11:56

thoughts about reality. I

11:58

was not directly experienced. that which was

12:01

real. What

12:03

was real was that I was surrounded by love and

12:06

someone that just wanted to connect with me. And

12:09

what I was temporarily experiencing was my

12:11

thinking that perhaps I was about

12:14

to be bothered by somebody. Untrue.

12:18

When you're in the state of the victim, you

12:21

don't really touch reality. You're touching

12:23

your thoughts about reality. And

12:26

so our inner work and

12:28

our intentionality and our vision

12:31

and our affirmation and our

12:33

affirmative prayer and our meditation

12:35

and all the spiritual technologies

12:38

that we begin to move into practice, move

12:40

us into a space where we come

12:42

out of victimhood and we come into

12:45

the stage called the manifestor. This

12:47

is where we learn to take responsibility

12:49

for our own life. We begin

12:51

to take responsibility for our own thinking.

12:53

We begin to take responsibility for our

12:55

own perception. We begin to take responsibility

12:57

for what flows out of our mouth.

13:00

And as we begin to do that, we

13:02

begin to learn that thoughts are

13:04

units of mental energy that

13:07

have the tendency to become

13:10

things. They have a tendency to

13:12

transmute themselves into speech, into

13:14

experience, into perception and unfolding

13:17

experience. So what do we

13:19

learn in stage two? We learn, as

13:21

Oprah reminded us today, we learn to establish

13:24

intention. We learn to begin to describe

13:26

the kind of life that we want

13:28

to live. What do I mean by that? What

13:30

I mean by that is this. You do not

13:32

describe what you see, you see what you describe.

13:35

Did you catch that? You do

13:37

not describe what you see. You

13:39

ultimately in life see what you

13:42

describe. So in stage two at

13:44

the level of the manifestor, you begin

13:46

to take responsibility for your life and

13:48

you begin to describe the kind

13:51

of life, the kind of experience,

13:53

the kind of relationships, the kind

13:55

of entrepreneurial spirit that you want

13:57

to participate in. And as you begin to... articulate

14:00

that and describe that. Indeed, go

14:02

into a deep feeling tonality about

14:05

that. That begins to unfold and

14:07

manifest in your life. You begin

14:09

to understand the nature of affirmation.

14:12

You begin to understand the nature of

14:14

vision. You begin to understand the nature of

14:16

thought. You begin to understand the nature of

14:18

speaking life into your own life.

14:20

You begin to understand the nature

14:23

that life is for you and

14:25

never against you and that

14:27

you are getting out of your own

14:29

way so that life can live itself

14:31

through you so completely and

14:33

magnificently and dynamically. This is

14:35

the level of the manifestor

14:37

and the level of the manifestor

14:39

is simply saying, you know, if

14:42

I can see it, if I can imagine it,

14:45

I can bring it into manifestation.

14:48

But we don't stop there. That's just

14:50

stage two. That's

14:52

just stage two. Stage

14:55

three is the level of the

14:57

channel, the instrument, the place.

15:00

And this is where you begin

15:02

to grow and you begin to

15:04

unfold through spiritual insight. You

15:06

begin to understand that the universe is for

15:09

you, the presence of God is for you.

15:11

There's nothing against you. There's no original flaw.

15:13

There's a divine and perfect idea within you

15:15

that's seeking to unfold. And so instead of,

15:17

in stage two, you're mentally making

15:20

something happen. In stage

15:22

three, you're making it welcome. You

15:24

go from making it happen to

15:27

making it welcome. And we

15:29

bring the word surrender back

15:31

into usage because we're not

15:33

surrendering to an external deity.

15:36

We are surrendering to the potential

15:38

that's within our own soul

15:40

that wants to unfold, that

15:42

wants to reveal itself, that

15:45

wants to express itself. And

15:47

so we find ourselves more

15:49

and more frequently in the

15:51

zone of sometimes

15:53

not even knowing what

15:56

we're going to say. I'm in that place

15:58

a lot. But

16:01

we're guided by a universal principle that

16:03

takes over our life. Stage

16:05

two, we see it. If

16:08

you can see it, you can make it happen. Stage

16:11

three, eyes have not seen nor ears

16:13

heard, nor has entered to the heart

16:15

of man and woman that which the

16:17

mother, father, God has in store for

16:19

those who love the presence and live

16:21

according to the divine purpose, which is

16:23

to reflect and to reveal the infinite,

16:25

as only you can do it. And

16:28

so in stage three, we're available. We're

16:31

open, yielding, surrender. Those

16:33

are the words for stage three.

16:35

Stage two, I can imagine it.

16:37

I visualize it. I can describe it.

16:40

I can make it happen. Stage

16:43

three, I surrender. I let. I

16:45

allow. I yield. However, I'm

16:48

yielding based on what I've learned

16:50

in stage two, that

16:52

life is good, that life is

16:54

for me. Life is not against me.

16:57

Life is absolutely on

16:59

my side. And

17:01

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stage four, stage four is a state

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of being where the sense,

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the personal sense of

19:03

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19:06

from beauty, separate from love, separate

19:08

from the presence of God by

19:10

whatever name you choose to call

19:13

the presence, which is never an

19:15

absence. The presence omnipresent,

19:19

omniscient, omnipotent, omniscient,

19:21

everywhere. You have

19:24

moments where that sense of

19:26

a demarcation and separation dissolves,

19:28

and you realize that your

19:31

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19:34

the life of the infinite, that there

19:36

is no other life. There are

19:38

only unique individualized expressions of

19:40

the only life that there

19:43

is, just as there are

19:45

unique and individualized expressions of

19:47

waves on the ocean, But

19:50

they're all connected to the ocean,

19:52

and intrinsically, they are one with

19:54

the ocean. Those are the stages,

19:56

you see, And so as we

19:58

navigate through those stages, That

20:00

we have to always give up something

20:02

to go to the next level of

20:05

awareness as we are participating in our

20:07

own. Unfolding in order to move

20:09

out of victimhood? A good. As

20:12

I said earlier, Every victim

20:14

has a victim story. Every.

20:16

Victim has as they did it to me

20:18

story. And is not a discount.

20:20

The fact is that bad things have happened.

20:23

The people. That that that the

20:25

abuse has happened. Individuals have a

20:27

of a been approached a bit

20:29

of a victim of of destructive

20:31

behavior. That's. Not denouncing that. Not

20:33

saying that doesn't happen. But

20:35

when we are saying. That. To

20:37

move out of victimhood Us you.

20:39

Have to embrace this

20:42

one. Forgiveness. You. Have

20:44

to embrace forgiveness with the

20:46

awareness that all forgiveness is

20:48

self of forgiveness because we.

20:50

Know that a thought being a

20:52

unit of middle energies of I'm

20:54

hanging onto resentment. Of I'm

20:56

hanging on to animosity of a

20:59

hanging on to hate those thoughts.

21:01

Or replicating themselves according to

21:03

that frequency. And I am

21:06

us hanging on to. That

21:08

experience long after it has

21:11

gone and. The. Lack

21:13

of forgiveness is one of

21:15

the highest forms of self

21:17

abuse. Because. I'm saying

21:19

to the universe hit me

21:21

again friends as experience again.

21:23

I want more of this.

21:26

So as I hang on. To. The

21:28

On Forgiveness. Us: I'm abusing a

21:30

myself, I'm not hurting his Any

21:32

individuals that may have said. Something

21:35

bad about me or or done

21:37

something destructively. All. Is

21:40

constantly circulating through my mind

21:42

is ultimately my emotional body,

21:44

my mental body and my

21:47

cyclical body. Toxic chemicals that

21:49

are direct result of those

21:51

particular thought of using my

21:53

cell. Solar. To move

21:56

out of victimhood, we embrace.

21:58

forgiveness And

22:00

not just one time, we're talking about a way of

22:02

life. Every single night, perhaps,

22:05

as you go to bed, you

22:07

scan your life and you begin

22:09

to notice, was there any resentment,

22:11

any animosity that has begun

22:13

to seep in and you begin

22:15

to dissolve it through your inner act

22:17

of forgiveness until you can go to

22:20

bed clean and wake up

22:22

clean so that you, as

22:24

a pristine expression of the

22:26

infinite, are not pulling your

22:28

past around like a carcass,

22:30

you're stepping into the awareness

22:32

of every single day. This is

22:35

an adventure. This incarnation, this

22:39

incarnation, this

22:43

incarnation is a super soul

22:45

session in which

22:47

you have chosen to be here in

22:49

this incarnation. You volunteered

22:52

to be here at

22:54

this particular stage of

22:56

human becoming, at a

22:58

time in which there's so many things going

23:00

on in the world of phenomena, you chose

23:02

to be here. You weren't pushed. You

23:05

raised your hand and said, I'm

23:07

going to earth. I'm

23:10

going to earth. There's work that needs to

23:12

be done. There's kindness

23:14

that needs to be shared.

23:16

There's creativity that needs... I've got

23:18

to go there. So, you

23:20

chose to be here. And as

23:22

you learn the laws of manifestation and you

23:24

become adept at the laws of

23:27

manifestation with the reminder that you

23:29

cannot transcend anything that you have

23:31

mastered. So, you master stage two.

23:34

You master visualization. You master creative

23:36

imagination. You master your affirmation. You

23:38

master creating your vision. You master

23:41

articulating the kind of world you

23:43

want to live in. You master

23:45

that until a deep feeling level

23:48

happens within you and you're able

23:50

now to surrender and let go

23:54

and let love and let beauty and

23:56

let joy and what you're giving up

23:59

to... From that stage, you're

24:01

giving up control. Don't get

24:03

nervous. I

24:06

know some of you are control freaks up

24:08

in here. And

24:11

it's difficult to give up control when you've

24:13

been victimized a lot in your life and

24:15

you finally are able to embrace the universal

24:18

principle that you can trust. And you know

24:20

what? You don't just wake up one day

24:22

and say, I surrender. I give

24:24

up control. No. It

24:27

happens incrementally. As

24:29

you are doing your inner work, your

24:32

affirmative prayer, your meditation,

24:35

your life visioning, you

24:39

become a candidate for an insight. An

24:42

insight is an event that happens in

24:44

your awareness where incrementally or suddenly

24:46

you know something that you formerly

24:48

believed, something you

24:50

know that you used to believe, but now

24:53

you know it. And when you start

24:55

to have an insight, as the universe is

24:57

friendly, when you start to have an

24:59

insight that the presence is for you and not against you, when

25:01

you start to have an insight that everything truly

25:04

is working together for your individual and

25:06

collective good, when you have that insight,

25:08

now you can let go of control.

25:11

And your yielding now was a place

25:14

through which the power, the

25:16

intelligence, the love, the

25:18

beauty, the creativity, the resourcefulness

25:21

now can begin to take over your

25:23

life. So the first to

25:25

come out of victimhood, you're entering into

25:27

the vibration of forgiveness and

25:30

you're giving up your blame story. As

25:33

you move into the realm of

25:35

manifestation, to move into being a

25:37

channel, you're little by little

25:39

giving up control. And as

25:42

you are now living and moving and having

25:44

your being, primarily

25:47

as an instrument of the spirit,

25:50

as an instrument of love and beauty

25:52

and joy, in order to

25:54

move more and more into those states of

25:57

consciousness where you feel absolutely...

26:00

That you are one with this. One.

26:04

With life. You're giving

26:06

up your a personal

26:08

sense. Of. Separation

26:11

Some Life. From.

26:13

God. Sent. Enjoy! We all

26:15

carry a little bit of it. You

26:18

notice with you play sometimes you'll

26:20

notice. That you'll have a little bit

26:22

of your prayer of and you place

26:24

God way out there. Even.

26:27

Though you have heard is closer than your breathing

26:29

a new than your hands of the even though

26:31

you have heard that is that the realm of

26:33

have is at hand and that the kingdom is

26:35

within your you've heard it would still. In your

26:37

mind, it's. There's.

26:46

But not here. And

26:48

so what happens is incrementally. You.

26:51

Start to have an inside oh My. God. The

26:54

presence. And

26:57

we're not. You don't. blast. Meme. The Presence By

27:00

accepting that the presence is right

27:02

where you are you can only

27:04

blast been the presents by limiting

27:06

it's nature through you only by

27:09

stopping assault was set limits yes

27:11

and so us and in short

27:13

to to to some. said some

27:15

this. Is a

27:17

perfect pattern within you, loaded encoded

27:19

by the divine presence. It's you

27:21

are here at this stage of

27:24

our human evolution to puts to

27:26

to consciously participates in your own

27:28

unfolding notches. Wait to see what

27:30

happens in your life. But as

27:32

Oprah reminded us to have an

27:34

intense and. Describe your

27:36

life. So. That

27:38

ultimately led. Goal posts on polls exercise

27:41

unique pattern of you. Then you'll understand

27:43

the statement that when you believe more

27:45

in which you don't see that in

27:47

which you do see than what you

27:50

do see you won't see and what

27:52

you don't see you will see. I'll

27:54

repeat. our

27:57

data When

28:01

you believe more

28:04

in what you don't see, what you can't

28:06

see, the realm of love

28:09

and beauty and joy and harmony and

28:11

peace, they're invisible qualities. You

28:13

can't see them with the sensorium. You can't

28:16

see them with the five senses. You can

28:18

only see their evidence. When you

28:20

begin to believe and feel more in what you

28:22

don't see than in

28:24

what you do see, sometimes

28:27

obstacles, hindrances, obstructions. When

28:30

you believe more in what you don't see than

28:32

in what you do see than what

28:34

you do see, you won't see. And

28:37

what you don't see, you will see.

28:39

This is where we are living.

28:42

This is where we are. This

28:44

is where we are. And

28:47

you, you

28:49

get to participate. This

28:51

is not a bystander sport. You're

28:55

not a lookie-loo. The

28:59

Spirit and all of its

29:01

magnificence trusted you so much

29:04

that it placed all of its power,

29:06

all of its intelligence, all

29:08

of its love, all of its beauty.

29:11

It placed everything within you. The

29:14

presence is everywhere in its fullness.

29:17

And it placed it within you that

29:19

if this presence may come

29:21

into its own as

29:23

your life, as your

29:25

living, as your giving, as

29:28

your sharing, so that you

29:30

will wake up with a

29:32

sense of gratitude and thanksgiving

29:34

for existence itself and for

29:36

your existence, asking, what can

29:38

I share today? What

29:40

can I give? How can I be

29:42

more myself? How can I be

29:44

a magnificent change agent? How

29:46

can I bring heaven to earth

29:49

every single day? You ask that

29:51

question, the universe will answer it.

29:53

Peace and blessings to you. I'm

30:06

Oprah Winfrey and you've been listening

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