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Our conversation today is a great

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we had with Hollywood actor and

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producer, Kevin Sorbo last week. We

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are at the front of the battleground

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to capture and redefine what

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manliness looks like in the West today.

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I'm not interested in letting that happen

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and neither are my guests, Jake Crane,

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Blaine Crane and David Cone. They

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are the host of Crane and Company where

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they discuss cultural commentary through the world of

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sports. Today we talk about the

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dangers of censorship in sports and culture, why

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so many people stand on money when they should be

0:38

standing on what is right, how

0:40

sports shapes much of our views

0:42

on men, masculinity and society, why

0:45

we as a culture tend to

0:47

mistakenly prioritize tolerance and acceptance, how

0:50

sports is a powerful answer to

0:52

the fatherlessness epidemic and how

0:54

to shift the Overton window back from

0:56

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are the host of the popular daily

4:18

wire podcast crane and company where they

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4:29

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stars I should say of daily wires

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they do in-depth analytics

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informative interviews predictions in

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the world of athletics and whether you agree with them

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or not they always give

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you something to consider. Enjoy this one guys.

4:53

Hey what's up guys good to have you on the podcast. Man

4:56

thanks for having us we're excited to to be here.

4:59

I don't know if I've ever done interview three people

5:01

at a time so we'll see how this goes this

5:03

is new for me right you guys are seasoned professionals

5:05

so I'm sure it'll be all right. Yeah

5:08

we got more chemistry than Bill Nye the Science guys

5:10

so we're good we're good we'll adjust. How

5:12

do you guys keep from tripping over each other

5:14

because I listen to your podcast like man they're

5:16

pretty in sync here like they they don't really

5:18

trip over talk over each other too often that's

5:21

that's impressive actually. Well I appreciate it

5:23

um I a lot of it I mean me and this

5:25

my brother's right here my right. Allegedly.

5:28

Allegedly. That is weird. Yeah we haven't

5:30

checked the car

5:32

facts yet but uh no I mean we were

5:34

able to do it and then we've known David

5:36

for so long. I think we kind of cousin

5:38

I'm a cousin at that point yeah pretty much.

5:41

I liken it to a band honestly it's just

5:43

like we met we started making music and it

5:45

just it's it grooved and we got to know

5:47

each other and I think that you know when

5:49

you watch like the backstage here at the daily

5:51

wire like that's a master class and passing the

5:53

baton too from from one person to the other

5:55

in the midst of very different conversations they're having

5:57

than when we're talking about who's going to win

5:59

the. conference championships, but no, I hit

6:01

it off. Well, when I met

6:03

these guys, like right when I met these guys, it

6:05

was just like brothers. I have two brothers, they're brothers.

6:07

And it's just, you know, happy to be here for

6:10

sure. Yeah. Well, it's pretty cool also

6:12

that you get to work with such an incredible team.

6:14

I've had Ben on, I've had Andrew Clavin on, working

6:18

on getting Matt on the podcast and the quality

6:20

of the content you guys put out is incredible.

6:22

How did you guys get synced up with with

6:25

the Daily Wire? Yeah. Well,

6:27

first off, I mean, we're unbelievably fortunate

6:29

and grateful to be at a place that

6:31

number one has people that works as hard

6:34

as what the Daily Wire has. And I don't say

6:36

that lightly. You know, we were obviously sports guys who

6:38

grew up playing sports, were able to play to decently

6:41

high level. And we understand the importance of teamwork. And

6:43

I think that's one of the main reasons why

6:45

the Daily Wire has been so successful and they

6:47

let us say what we want to say. Right.

6:49

Right. There's no there's no leash on, you know,

6:51

to quote Dana White here recently on on us

6:53

diving into topics. And but I'm going to tell

6:55

you, Ryan, like the truth is, we say what

6:58

we think. I think that's what's kind of separated

7:00

us from some other shows is that you may

7:02

agree with us on who you think is going

7:04

to win. You may disagree with us

7:06

on certain things, but we're able to say what we

7:08

think. And it comes off as genuine. And when you're

7:10

able to say what you think, you can argue points

7:13

pretty far instead of some of the other

7:15

stuff you hear where it's rehearsed. And we'll

7:17

all take this side and you take that

7:19

side because it'll be more fun. We genuinely

7:21

say what we believe. But no, it's it's

7:23

an incredible place to work. And,

7:25

you know, we give the origin story. Tell them tell

7:28

them about when we were at the college football game

7:30

and Ben Shapiro called. Yeah. So, man, it's crazy. I

7:33

coach college football for almost a decade. My

7:35

brother, my brother coached it for almost half a decade.

7:37

And when Covid hit, I was coaching up

7:39

in Montana and they sent the players back and the coaches

7:41

back because nobody knew what was going on. Our head coach

7:43

was like, we're going to bring you back at some point.

7:45

We just don't know what's touch and go. And

7:47

so I went and bought a fifty dollar mic

7:50

and just started kind of talking college football stuff like that.

7:52

And I didn't know what was good. I had no plan

7:54

for it to go for it. I was going back to

7:56

coaching and it kind of blew up and I

7:59

got reached out to. by a couple investors who

8:01

were pretty high up there and they wanted to move

8:03

me to Atlanta and put it on video. So

8:05

that's when I met David Cone, who was actually the

8:07

own video production company that I was going on video.

8:10

We hit it off. Long story short,

8:12

he hops on, my brother hops on the

8:14

show. We signed a deal with the volume

8:16

and Colin Cowherd and

8:18

we're doing it out of the College Football Hall of

8:20

Fame. We're in the middle of renegotiating a deal with

8:23

Colin Cowherd in the volume because we had had a

8:25

ton of success early and we're really excited. And

8:27

then I get a call, DM on Twitter from Ben Shapiro

8:30

and then I get a call from Ben Shapiro. And

8:32

he was like, look man, we're interested in having a sports

8:34

show. We'd love to talk to you guys. And it just

8:37

blossomed from there. I'm just wanting to wake up from a

8:39

coma, to be honest with you. Like I really think I'm

8:41

in a coma right now. Like, and I'm gonna wake up

8:43

eventually and then I'm gonna be like, yeah man, you were

8:45

recruiting. And then I hit you. Worth it. For

8:48

sure. And if somebody looked for full transparency,

8:50

like Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson had a

8:52

huge impact on me and sort of the

8:54

transformation that I made throughout my twenties and

8:56

stuff. So getting a call from them

8:59

and being able to join this elite

9:01

cast of intellectuals and great

9:04

people already felt like a dream. But then given

9:06

the fact that I played football at Michigan and

9:08

they just won the national championship, now I'm 100%

9:10

just a dream. And

9:13

at this point I'm fine just staying in it. Like,

9:15

let's don't wake up. Oh no, I'll crewman show. Milk

9:17

this thing for all it's worth. Yeah, time to wake

9:19

up anytime soon. Well, I was gonna ask if

9:21

it ever feels like, you know, you're talking about waking

9:23

up from the dream or feeling like, ah man, somebody's

9:26

gonna find out who we really are

9:28

and can us here pretty quickly. But it sounds like you

9:30

guys are honest about who you are. And I think,

9:32

you know, you talked about Dana White or you see

9:34

somebody like Jim Harbaugh who, you know, at

9:37

the March for Life or, and

9:39

it's sad that these types of things,

9:42

the way people really believe, especially in

9:44

the sports arena, feel

9:46

like they can't actually share what's

9:49

on their mind because of losing

9:51

careers, losing job opportunities, losing

9:53

promotions, and the risk that comes with

9:55

just being honest about what you think

9:57

and feel. Yeah.

10:00

without a doubt. And I think that's why some

10:02

networks you see right now are struggling and are

10:04

having to make some moves to try and make

10:06

up for the fact that, look, let's be honest,

10:08

they censor what the talent says and what the

10:10

talent can't say. I've had more guys and we've

10:12

had more guys reach out to us on certain

10:14

other networks that are like, man, I wanna say

10:16

what you just said, but I would be fired

10:18

into the sun instantly. And I think, you know,

10:21

again, whether you agree or

10:23

disagree, to me, that's beyond

10:25

the point. It's the human ability to tell when

10:27

somebody's being genuine and what they think and what

10:30

they're saying. At least you know where I stand.

10:32

With Dana White, at least you know where he

10:34

stands. And at the end of the day, if

10:36

I'm gonna go down, I wanna go down, you

10:38

know, with you knowing I'm meaning what I say,

10:41

not that you say crazy stuff or you try

10:43

and be a shock jock or anything like that.

10:46

I'm gonna tell you what I really think about something. If

10:48

it's out there, it's out there compared to the

10:51

mainstream, but the ability, again, that the Daily Wire

10:53

gives us to do that, I think is one

10:55

reason why we've seen the results that we've seen

10:57

because deep down, you know, You

11:01

can fake and trick a lot of people,

11:03

right? But eventually they're gonna find out that

11:05

you're not genuine or you are genuine.

11:07

And that's the way we've gone about it.

11:10

Well, Dana White specifically, I mean, we've become

11:12

friends with, wouldn't you guys say? I mean, that's

11:14

a crazy statement to say too, but we've become friends

11:17

and close with Dana White through his power slap initiative,

11:19

which they have their next one coming up February 9th,

11:21

right before the Super Bowl. And, you

11:23

know, I don't agree with everything Dana White says or

11:25

all of the actions that he takes. And yet when

11:27

I'm around the guy, I'm captivized

11:30

by his presence. And I think

11:32

that shows me the type of leader that

11:34

he is the way he runs his business.

11:36

And his comments this past week about not

11:38

putting his UFC fighters on the leash and

11:40

talking about free speech, I think it was

11:42

just a microcosm of that, that, hey, it's

11:44

healthy to disagree. Tell me what you think,

11:46

I'll tell you what I think. And

11:49

then let's go to the blackjack tables and we're

11:51

gonna be friends and- Yeah, well, I think authenticity

11:54

matters, right? And I think you could smell a

11:56

fake from a mile away, but we're running to

11:58

the problem now where people would rather stand- on

12:00

money than set on what's right. And I

12:02

think dialogue matters and

12:04

we're scared to argue these days, a

12:06

real authentic argument. And I

12:09

think that's where we get in trouble. We're

12:11

so one sided. We have so many followers

12:13

and not a lot of leaders in today's

12:15

society. That's why you see all these corporations, all

12:17

these major networks, just absolutely drowning,

12:20

drowning in losses. And it's not going to

12:22

get better because they're not leaders. They're going

12:24

to follow the politicians and whatever the narrative

12:27

is. So when it comes to our show

12:29

and what we can say, authenticity last, like

12:31

that sells the best. You want to know

12:33

about why Joe Rogan is so good? Because

12:35

Joe Rogan is authentic. He will say

12:37

what he feels like whether you believe

12:40

it or whether you do not believe it. And

12:42

that is what viewers want. That's what people want to

12:44

hear. That's what people want to listen to. They don't

12:46

want to see some guy get up on CNN and

12:48

tell you not to go outside today because the sun

12:50

can blow up. Right. That's what we're running into. So

12:52

I think we're smelling the face out. We're starting to

12:54

come out of the trees a little bit and the

12:56

real ones will forever be able to see that. Yeah.

12:58

The scent moves us forward. That's what we say on

13:00

the show all the time. Well, and I

13:03

think, yes, did you say descent moves us forward? Cause

13:05

that was actually going to lead into what I was

13:07

thinking. Yeah, I agree. I think the more people who

13:09

stand up and speak their mind, the less cancelable these

13:11

types of things become, you know, you take Dana

13:14

white was referring specifically to, I believe

13:16

Sean Strickland's comments about the

13:18

LGBTQ agenda. And you

13:20

know, although I don't necessarily agree with the

13:23

way that, you know, Sean delivered his thoughts

13:25

on the subject, the fact that he

13:27

stood up to a reporter and said

13:29

exactly what he wanted to say was exactly

13:31

what it was on his mind and

13:33

wasn't popular was actually a pretty redeeming

13:36

characteristic. If you ask me, no,

13:38

Ryan, it is like to me, the saddest part is

13:40

we have to celebrate that because we don't see it

13:42

all the time. That's true. We've had so many people

13:44

in our path die for our ability

13:47

to sit here and say what we think, whether

13:49

you agree, whether it's right or whether it's wrong.

13:51

I don't know if there's one person in the

13:53

world that I agree with everything they think. I

13:55

don't know if there's one person in the world

13:57

where I disagree with everything that they think. But

14:00

the fact that we have to celebrate the ability

14:02

of an individual to say what they actually think,

14:05

it's borderline scary. And you have to celebrate it

14:07

because you want more of it. It's kind of

14:10

a natural human reaction. But we've

14:12

gotten to a point now where we

14:14

are so fearful of being ourselves that

14:16

will never reach our potential. And

14:18

to me, that's the scariest part of the

14:20

whole ordeal. And you brought up something there

14:22

with Sean Strickland specifically. I remember growing up,

14:25

my father would say, how you say something

14:27

as important as what you say. I mean,

14:29

you could tell someone to go to hell in

14:31

such a way they'd look forward to the trip. I

14:33

think that my father used to say that. You've

14:36

won a trip to hell. That's

14:39

a guy that would get you excited for

14:41

the trip. But with Sean Strickland specifically, of

14:43

course, man, I'm sure he wishes. And a

14:45

lot of us wish he could have articulated

14:47

that thought in a very different way. But

14:49

I think that's what Dana is alluding to.

14:52

And look, when it comes to free speech

14:54

specifically, you can't just go and say whatever

14:56

you want. It's not even about being canceled.

14:58

There have to be some sort of standard,

15:00

especially when we're talking about corporations and

15:03

you're trying to promote a fight and

15:05

that kind of stuff. But to me, what Sean Strickland

15:07

said is not where the line is. The

15:10

line has to be as far as

15:12

possible when we're talking about speech, especially

15:14

when you're trying to push cultural ideas

15:16

and where that Overton window is and

15:18

how wide is that window and where

15:20

exactly is it. So of course, all

15:22

of us are trying, especially we're on

15:24

live TV every day, we are trying

15:26

to articulate thoughts as carefully as possible.

15:28

And sometimes we make mistakes, but it's

15:30

the sentiment behind ideas that's important too.

15:33

Well, one of the things I tell the guys

15:35

that listen to the podcast and are tuned into what

15:37

we're doing is you have a lot of these quote

15:39

unquote nice guys who don't want to rock the bow.

15:42

They don't want to make anybody feel bad. They get

15:44

steamrolled and rolled over. And I tell

15:46

these guys, hey, look, if you want to be,

15:48

if you don't want to be a nice guy

15:50

any longer, you actually have to tiptoe into asshole territory

15:52

because you don't know what the line is. And until

15:55

you're willing to be an asshole, you can't find

15:58

the right appropriate line on how to stay. stand

16:00

up for yourself, how to have boundaries, how to

16:02

share what you want, but do it in a

16:04

respectful way that will elicit results from other people.

16:07

Yeah, well, I mean, I think, and I agree with

16:09

you, Ryan, that's part of being yourself though, right? Like

16:12

me in the real world, sometimes, my dad used to

16:14

say that if we're in court our dance, somebody's gotta

16:16

wear the hat sometimes. Like you, to

16:19

me, when I'm talking about something, it

16:21

does release different emotions for me

16:23

in certain aspects because that's me, you know, being

16:25

myself, if I disagree with Blaine or something, or

16:27

if I disagree with somebody else out there, I'm

16:29

gonna talk about it. And if I have to

16:31

tip toe into that territory, I'll tip toe into

16:34

that territory, but I'm not gonna live in that

16:36

territory, or I'm not gonna just live in the

16:38

nice guy territory again. I think the authenticity, right?

16:40

It's the beanie baby rule, the baseball called rule,

16:43

the more authentic it is, the more valuable it

16:45

is. And that's the way that we kind of

16:47

approach what we do, but I'm with you, man.

16:49

And I think that goes into the full experience.

16:52

I don't want you, and I know these guys

16:54

will agree with me, to turn it, tune into

16:56

Cranin Company, because you're like, oh, it's just gonna

16:58

be nothing but rainbows and smiles, or

17:00

I'm gonna tune into Cranin Company, because these three guys are

17:03

gonna yell at each other the whole time, like we see

17:05

on different shows. I want you to tune in and be

17:07

like, hey, I don't know what I'm gonna get today, as

17:10

far as emotional, right? Is it gonna be funnier?

17:13

Is there gonna be somebody gonna get angry? Are we

17:15

gonna get into a heated debate? But I know I'm

17:17

gonna get something that's real. And at the end of

17:19

the day, to quote one of my favorite artists, I

17:21

don't know if many of you already agrees, Drake on

17:24

the pound cake song. Only real people agree. Yeah,

17:27

only real music's gonna last. All the

17:29

other stuff is here today, and it's

17:31

gone tomorrow. It took me a little

17:33

while to realize in life, like being a good

17:36

man and being a nice man are two

17:38

different things, right? Like, those are

17:40

not the same thing. Sometimes being a good

17:42

man and doing what's right in terms of

17:44

taking on the responsibilities of a man means

17:46

that you're not being nice, right? It's having

17:48

the ability to not only

17:51

get in a fight, but win a fight, whether that

17:53

be figuratively or literally. But

17:56

to win that fight, and sometimes that's what's

17:58

called upon for a man to... to reach

18:00

his full potential and to take on the responsibilities

18:02

of life. One of

18:04

my, uh, one of my friends, his name's

18:06

Jack Donovan. He makes this distinction. He says

18:09

there's a difference between being a good man

18:11

and being good at being a man. And

18:13

I love that distinction. I

18:15

do like that. Well, I may have to borrow that one. I

18:18

want to pivot real quick. Cause you guys,

18:21

you guys mentioned something. I take a little

18:23

bit of issue with, so I'm really curious

18:25

from your commentary, your professional and expert opinion

18:27

in the world of sports power slap. Let's

18:29

talk about that a little bit. Cause I

18:32

love UFC. I love the fights. Um,

18:34

I train a little jujitsu, not very much,

18:36

but I love that. But then I see

18:38

the power slap stuff and I

18:40

just can't get behind it as a, as a,

18:42

as a sport, as a, like a

18:45

valuable thing to do. Tell me you guys's thoughts on

18:47

this. Well,

18:49

look, I feel like if you want to grab the

18:51

belt, I'm getting the belt. The

18:55

way I look at it's like this. Uh, both

18:57

are brutal, right? And having been there in person,

18:59

I can tell you like power. It's visceral. Like

19:02

watching it on TV is one thing being there

19:04

and seeing it and hearing it and basically

19:08

feeling it almost from the front row is

19:10

a totally different thing. Um, but to me,

19:13

I think, you know, it's as,

19:15

as crazy as some people might think it is, I

19:17

think it's a good pathway for some of these guys

19:19

who are, who are trying to get a career. Maybe

19:21

it's an MMA, maybe it's something else to try and

19:23

get their foot in the door. A lot of them,

19:25

that's what they're doing. So to me, it's you

19:28

can get knocked out in both, right? I w

19:30

which one would I rather do? I

19:32

don't know. I think both of them can end up

19:35

being, being, you know, pretty brutal, but at the end

19:37

of the day, I think it's providing opportunities for guys

19:39

who are willing to do it, right? We're not, they're

19:41

not forcing anybody to, they're not going into different villages

19:43

and being like, Hey, you come here, power sign, you

19:45

can sit in a hunger games situation, but

19:47

I think it's getting a foot in the door for

19:50

some of these guys. And, and honestly, uh, after

19:52

having met them and hung out with someone, man,

19:55

they're great guys. They're really cool people. I

19:57

would encourage you to check out their stories. They also have

19:59

the, the tele. television show behind the scenes that's

20:01

going on where you can see them as they

20:03

prepare for for their bouts and stuff. But yeah,

20:05

hear their stories and get to know them because

20:07

they're trying to not only make it an MMA,

20:10

but you know, they're working a lot of different

20:12

types of jobs. And the way I see it

20:14

is it's just another rite of passage, right? It's

20:16

a physical rite of passage that has physical consequences.

20:18

And one man standing in front of another. And

20:20

I'm thinking of this analogy in real time. So

20:22

it may be flawed. It's almost like going for

20:25

a two point conversion at the end of a

20:27

football game. You know, if an MMA fight

20:29

is the full game that you get to experience with

20:31

special teams and the full field and everything going for

20:33

that two point conversion is the game distilled down to

20:36

its essence in football. You line up at the two,

20:38

we're going to try and score. You try and stop

20:40

us. That's how college overtime works. Now it's kind of

20:42

how power slap is, you know, instead of a full

20:44

fight, I'm going to stand across from you. I'm going

20:46

to slap you as hard as I can. Hopefully I

20:48

get to go first. Yeah. Let me see these things

20:51

go multiple rounds, man.

20:54

I'm telling you if I win the

20:56

coin toss, that's the whole point. The coin toss.

20:58

I'm slapping if he's not knocked out, I'm leaving.

21:00

You're not the first. You're not the first. I

21:02

would so much rather do power slap than actually

21:04

be the next week. Well, what's funny is there's

21:06

a scene in Lady Ballers where we're sitting in

21:08

the gym and I slapped him and run away

21:10

instantly. That's about what it'd be like. Yeah. We

21:12

shot. I mean, that's what we did with our

21:14

brothers and stuff. When we were a kid, it's

21:16

like, let's have a slap competition. I'll go first.

21:18

You slap them and then yeah, you don't, you

21:20

don't let them get a chance. Of course. You

21:22

had younger brothers too, huh? I

21:25

think that's where I take issue with is that I

21:28

can't for me wrap my head around letting

21:30

somebody slap me. That's the difference between

21:32

power slap and MMA. Yeah.

21:34

Sure. You're in there beating each other up,

21:36

but I'm trying not to get hit. Like

21:38

I'm trying to keep you from hurting me

21:40

while I actively try to hurt you. And

21:43

that's where I take issue. Yeah.

21:45

To me that that's almost more, it's more

21:47

brave to me. Here's what I think about

21:49

and not to compare a sport to war,

21:51

but I mean, since a

21:53

gladiator sport, it's like, and I've never understood

21:55

this back in the day when they, they'd

21:57

be like, all right, you'd have one group

21:59

standing. facing the other group and they're like, all right,

22:01

put your guns up, fire! And you fire it

22:04

and then you put them down, then

22:06

the other side puts their guns up. Like

22:08

to me, that takes a lot

22:10

of guts, man. That takes a lot

22:12

of guts. Like being elusive, trust me. I used

22:14

to watch every Floyd Mayweather junior fight just wishing

22:16

somebody would actually connect with this guy, right? Cause

22:19

no one could hit him. But

22:21

what you're saying, like that phrase of,

22:23

I couldn't imagine just standing across from

22:25

someone and letting them slap me. Someone

22:27

else is saying that about getting in

22:29

the ring and having a boxing match

22:32

or having a UFC fight. Or I

22:34

couldn't imagine ever getting involved in something

22:36

that's brutal, that's that brutal or physical,

22:38

something like that, or football. A lot of

22:40

people don't wanna engage in the physicality that

22:42

football requires. So it's just a different flavor. And

22:44

I see it as just another rite of passage,

22:47

especially for some of these guys who are trying

22:49

to work their way up and be professional fighters.

22:51

Well, I think it's cool that he likes one

22:53

and not the other though. I think that's cool.

22:55

Cause I mean, obviously you're really looking at it

22:57

from your own perspective. I think

22:59

that's interesting. Well, I mean, knee jerk, I

23:01

was like, oh, these guys are morons. Like they're just, they're slapping

23:03

each other. But if I take like a real look

23:06

at it, no, there's technique. There's

23:08

things they're doing, they're training. There's technique to

23:10

it. There's a lot

23:12

more to it than just, hey, what's on the surface, which

23:15

is what everybody sees. And then there's just do what I

23:17

saw too. But yeah, I was just curious about that.

23:19

I kind of liken it to, I

23:22

play a little bit of sports in high school,

23:24

never college or professional level, but in high school.

23:26

And basketball was a sport that I just struggled

23:28

in. And one of the biggest things for me

23:30

was that you actually are

23:33

encouraged to let another player

23:35

run over you. That

23:37

just did not compute in my mind. And

23:39

so they put me in there

23:41

to beat people up. I'd foul out just about every

23:43

game. And I lasted through my sophomore year and then

23:46

got cut. But that was just something I could not,

23:48

like it didn't click for me. Could,

23:50

you know, I just feel like you'd be the perfect

23:53

goon in hockey though. Like, you know,

23:55

the guy they sent out there and they're like,

23:57

please, like this one Russian guy has given us

23:59

problems. Please take it now sports take

24:01

it out. It's not only hockey like look

24:04

You've sent a guy out on football field a couple times

24:07

whether that'd be a freshman or a sophomore But hey, man,

24:09

I need you to go take care of this guy. Yeah,

24:11

Adam's a sailor and happy Gilmore. Exactly The

24:13

enforcer the bash bros that you got. Oh

24:15

my that's a mighty duck. That's right. Those

24:18

are the guys I resonate with for sure.

24:20

Oh, man. I'm a big Gordon Bombay guy

24:23

You wasn't I'm big who isn't yeah, that's exactly

24:25

right What a

24:27

great movie well, did you guys think

24:29

what you're doing now whatever lead you to be

24:32

you know, Hollywood movie I shouldn't say Hollywood. It's

24:34

not really but at least movie stars will say

24:36

movie stars man,

24:38

you know I'll

24:44

tell you what's funny though. I told my wife

24:47

Went my wife now. She was my girlfriend then

24:49

not your previous wife. Now. You're not my don't

24:52

trick people I've been married one time so

24:54

far. Um But when

24:56

I was doing just we're doing the J-boy show I

24:58

was like, I just got a feeling like I'm gonna

25:00

get a chance to act at some point and she

25:02

used to be like No, she's like, you

25:04

know, you're doing your sports thing stick with that whatever whatever

25:06

So of course when we find out we were doing the

25:09

movie after I had to tell her we had to cut

25:11

her honeymoon And now yeah got through that For

25:14

the for the movie you got through it. Oh, yeah,

25:16

I'll tell you I'll get

25:18

in that but um, I'll say this

25:20

I always wanted to do it It's

25:23

something I felt like I always could do But

25:26

I never thought you'd be given the opportunity right because I

25:28

feel like that's you got to go in there and earn

25:30

your dues And so I that in the acting world and

25:32

all that crazy stuff to have a chance to not just

25:34

be in a movie But be one of the main focal

25:36

points of the movie and the idea

25:40

Was was kicked around we had talked about Ben Shapiro

25:42

and Jeremy morning like at first We were gonna try

25:44

and see if blame kid my brother who's six foot

25:46

four. Um Could

25:48

act in cone six seven we actually you

25:50

know, we actually had a pretty decent size

25:53

basketball team But if he could make the

25:55

WNBA like legitimately Like because if

25:57

guys can be girls and girls give you guys then my

25:59

brother should be able to play in the

26:01

WNBA and average a triple

26:03

double. ISO. Yeah, ISO. So five

26:05

out ISO. But they wouldn't let

26:08

them like they talk this big game.

26:10

And then when you try, they don't let you

26:12

so they didn't hear me come up with the

26:14

idea for the movie. We talked

26:16

about it. They brought us in. We thought it

26:18

was a great idea. They got the script out

26:20

so quick. They brought us in, hand us the

26:22

script. They said, Yeah, now we're gonna have to

26:24

read it. Tell us what you think and bring

26:26

it back because they want the script out. Read

26:28

it. It was incredibly well written. We were laughing

26:30

like genuinely laughing. And yeah, man, it's a it

26:33

was an it was an incredible opportunity and, and

26:35

something obviously turned out really well. And we want

26:37

to do it again. The most and look,

26:39

we're gonna get a shot as crazy as the

26:41

world keeps going. Maybe the the golf lady ball.

26:43

I'm telling you, lady baller. Lady ballers to cheese

26:45

got drive. And the craziest part for me is

26:48

for the last 10 years when I met you

26:50

guys, I was working in video and film production,

26:52

right? I was on the periphery of this. I

26:54

was directing actors for over a decade, then to

26:57

be on the other side of it and be

26:59

at a movie and acting and to get directed.

27:01

It was a crazy experience. I'm just I'm so

27:03

proud of this group, man, because we went in,

27:05

we knew there'd be no expectations, right for us

27:08

to actually deliver some sort of performance that's

27:10

not only good, but maybe even funny. And

27:13

then when we went in there, we knew what

27:15

we put in the can, we knew the scenes

27:17

we shot, but we had to keep it a

27:19

secret for the That was the hardest part. They're

27:21

in post production. I said, guys, I think we

27:23

made something really special. Obviously, we don't have final

27:25

cut. We're not going to be in charge of

27:27

the edit. But I know what we shot. I

27:29

think it's really solid. Let's just see what happens.

27:31

The number one movie on rotten tomatoes. It happened.

27:33

We couldn't believe that. I've always wanted to act

27:35

and to have always thought I was Batman. So

27:38

you want to be Batman. This movie is a great stepping

27:40

stone for me to be Batman in the next

27:42

year. And I'll be the Joker. I'm gonna be

27:44

Catwoman already played a girl. Yeah, he's gonna be

27:46

Catwoman look just like Halle Berry and, and

27:48

I'm a Joker. Yeah, debatable

27:50

about the Hallie Halle Berry comment. But yeah, we'll

27:53

go. Better than better than

27:55

I look like. He's darker than her. Yeah, a little bit. Yeah,

28:00

I was thinking you know, golf is certainly Avenue tennis Although I'm

28:02

not sure I'd want to see any of you guys in a

28:04

skirt on the tennis court. That's for sure Yeah,

28:07

no, I don't we we were very lucky that we didn't

28:09

have to you know Our

28:12

good buddy Tyler Fisher He

28:14

was the only one who really had to dress up

28:16

Yeah, like a woman outside of of Jeremy and Alex

28:19

a little the part and obviously the main character But

28:21

you know the funniest part to me and if you

28:23

haven't seen the movie This is something you need to

28:25

watch as it goes Uh is that

28:27

we get more masculine the more games we play

28:29

in this tournament Like it starts off very feminine

28:31

like all of a sudden the wigs disappear like

28:33

this I just had to wear a bow so

28:35

I feel like I lucked out Right

28:38

and ended up having the bow take up. I

28:40

mean you look like you're part of the motley

28:42

crew at least Oh, yeah. Yeah, look we're gonna

28:44

get an 80s band together for sure. I'm jamming

28:46

out We're gonna look like an anorexic Corella de

28:48

Vil, but it's funny I was like just telling

28:50

my dad this when this when this story had

28:52

broken about the the male Gopher who won the

28:55

female tournament and can now possibly play on the

28:57

lpga I was saying,

28:59

you know the world's so crazy. I would

29:01

gladly not have men hoisting trophies in women's

29:03

sports Um and for us to

29:05

not have starred in a movie, I would make

29:07

that trade-off But if the world is going to be

29:10

so crazy Then hey, let's at least

29:12

capitalize and point out the absurdity of it by

29:14

doing a project like this And that's what was

29:16

so fulfilling about it. I mean our good friend

29:18

Riley games. I think would tell you the same

29:20

thing She would gladly trade in whatever fame she's

29:22

received in this new lifestyle She's living to not

29:24

have this absurdity have happened to her in the

29:27

first place, but this is the world we live

29:29

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For. Now let's get back to my guess. Yeah,

30:43

I mean I think it's an important movie and

30:45

and and I you know know there's probably people

30:47

in you guys have heard this. I'm sure that

30:49

that think it's you know, just as a mockery

30:51

it is an important. It's not relevant the grand

30:53

scheme of things, but I think tapping into. Cultural.

30:57

Culturally. Important things. And as movies,

30:59

that's comedy, that's acting, celebrities, even

31:01

sports. You know it's easy to

31:04

take that dismiss it as unimportant,

31:06

but these are all fronts that

31:08

we can fight a good babylon

31:10

and bring attention to real issues

31:12

that are important. Yeah.

31:14

And it's it to me when you look at it

31:16

and and I try and look at everything. You.

31:18

Know at some point from at thirty thousand for you.

31:21

If. You honestly believe. That.

31:24

There's no difference between men and women.

31:26

Especially in the sports arena,

31:29

Then you can be talked into believing anything

31:31

like that. That's an avenue for what's to

31:33

stop this from having men go in women's

31:35

bathroom? What? What's what's where Does it end?

31:37

If you're gonna start there and you can

31:40

convince people that this is actually real thing,

31:42

which. i i think ninety nine point

31:44

nine nine nine percent of people realize there's a

31:46

difference between guess they're not comes in hub yeah

31:48

there's nobody out there so we ever met is

31:51

that not do like series there's no dip like

31:53

there's a difference at all ah but if you

31:55

can believe that and you can be talked into

31:57

that sin sin you can be talked into any

32:00

that then you can believe anything that we

32:02

know. It's not debatable, it's

32:04

not an opinion, it is a

32:06

fact that there's a difference between

32:08

men and women biologically and anatomically.

32:10

So if you can sit here and

32:13

say, oh, it doesn't matter, let men play against women,

32:15

let women go in

32:17

men's sports or whatever, which we don't ever see,

32:19

then again, what's to stop anyone from saying, well,

32:21

I'm a man, well, no, there's no such thing

32:24

as a man, so I'm gonna go into the

32:26

women's bathroom. Like where does it end? It never

32:28

ends. It's just an ever winding road of stupidity

32:30

in my opinion. Yeah, and look,

32:32

I agree. I don't

32:34

think many people are convinced that men and

32:37

women are different. I think they're going along

32:39

with the narrative because they're blissfully ignorant or

32:41

they're just kind of useful idiots, I think,

32:43

is the term that we often hear. But

32:45

the other one is that I think a

32:48

lot of these people will

32:50

rank virtues and they'll look at

32:52

something like tolerance and acceptance as

32:55

more virtuous than truth and honesty.

32:57

And so it's just a reprioritization

32:59

of their values and their

33:01

virtues and they've got it wrong. They've got it backwards. 100%,

33:05

people don't wanna hurt feelings more than they wanna,

33:07

which actually Matt Walsh made this point a couple

33:09

months ago, which was, hey, you speak to the

33:11

trans community, I care about you more because I'm

33:13

the one who wants you to live out your

33:15

full potential. I mean, there's a great quote that

33:17

says, the greatest, the most honorable

33:19

thing a man can do is to reach

33:21

his full potential. And I think you could

33:23

take that and say the same thing about a

33:26

woman. But not only that aspect, but also

33:28

I think people are lying to themselves about

33:30

just how much our culture and our country has

33:32

changed over the past five, eight, 10 years.

33:34

And that's what gets me thinking. And I chuckle

33:36

when I hear people talk about the movie Joanna

33:38

Man in reference to Lady Ballers.

33:40

Like when Lady Ballers came out and they say,

33:42

well, they already made Joanna Man for two reasons.

33:45

One, just from the surface level of that movie

33:47

was made 20 years ago. So even if our

33:49

movie was a direct ripoff, I mean, they're making

33:51

three dozen Marvel movies every single year. The fact

33:53

we couldn't make it to the bottom of the

33:55

movie 20 years later. Yeah, the Little Mermaids, like

33:57

a neurodivergent. lesbian.

34:00

Yeah, that's Robert Downey Jr. That just

34:02

from a filmmaking standpoint. But then the

34:04

deeper issue is no, Joanna Mann was

34:06

made at a time where it went

34:08

without saying that it's ridiculous for a

34:10

guy to dress up as a woman

34:12

and to play basketball. He was hiding.

34:14

Y'all that's the point hiding it. This

34:16

is the humor in it. The same

34:18

with Mrs. Doubtfire. The same with White

34:20

Chicks is the audience is in on

34:22

the gag that's always been funny, which

34:24

is men dressing as women. But the

34:26

other characters aren't in on it. With

34:28

our movie, this is post absurdity, post

34:30

craziness in our country, where these men

34:32

are hoisting women's trophies. Women are allowing

34:34

it to happen. And that's the beauty

34:36

of Lady Ballers is we dominate the

34:39

field of competition. Well,

34:41

we live in the dumbest, smartest time

34:43

ever. Elon Musk is landing rockets

34:45

upside down on platforms in the Indian

34:47

Ocean. Yet some people believe there's no

34:49

difference between men and women. Can you

34:51

believe, could you believe if we teleported

34:53

somebody from like 1820 to

34:55

our time right now and we're like, hey,

34:58

here's the iPhone. They'd be like, Oh my

35:00

God, these are this, we're so smart now.

35:02

But hey, dudes and chicks

35:04

are the same. Like, can you just imagine

35:06

like my head looks spontaneously and bust.

35:08

We live in the dumbest, smartest time ever.

35:12

Well, I think, I think the reason the movie is

35:14

so funny is because as the adage goes, it's funny

35:16

because it's true. Like if there wasn't element of truth

35:18

to it, it wouldn't be funny. You know,

35:20

you guys did bring up Riley Gaines. I

35:23

think she's probably one of

35:25

the most important voices in sports right

35:28

now, especially as it relates obviously to

35:30

culture because you said it. Women

35:33

need to stand up to, I don't understand why these

35:36

women, especially when it came to Leah Thomas and

35:38

the swimming stuff, why they sit and say,

35:40

Hey, you know what, we're out. We're going to go create our

35:42

own league over here and do our

35:44

own thing. And we're not going to play this

35:47

game anymore. I understand like a young lady who

35:49

spent, you know, 20 years trying to get to

35:51

that level, trying to get to that point, the

35:53

opportunity that comes with it. But unless women are

35:56

willing to stand up and say, we're not doing

35:58

this, we're not participating in this. You're

36:00

just not going to have anything change and they'll say, well, men

36:03

need to do it. Well, if you want men and women to

36:05

be the same, then women need to step up as well. Men

36:08

are doing it. Yeah. Well, I

36:10

mean, yeah, at the end of the day, that's the problem.

36:12

Well, again, I think only legitimately only women can stop this.

36:15

Yeah. Only they can like, we can only

36:17

do so much as men. And there's a lot of women again,

36:19

that same as men, 99.99% of people agree

36:21

that there's a

36:24

difference. There's an advantage that men have over

36:27

women. When that guy goes out there and plays against

36:29

women's golfers, he's seeing off from the women's tee, hitting

36:31

a five wood from like 265 out. Meanwhile,

36:34

every other lady out there takes her three

36:36

shots to get there. I mean, we all

36:38

know the advantage that men have over women,

36:41

but unless women, and we've seen

36:43

it some, you've seen it at the high school

36:45

level, some boycotts, right? And a lot of times

36:47

it works, but until it's a uniform,

36:49

all right, we are done with this. We

36:51

are not going to tolerate this anymore, which

36:53

is not going to happen because you have

36:55

these clowns out here like Megan Rapinoe who

36:57

really don't care about women's sports. They just

36:59

care about themselves. They think their injury proves

37:01

that God isn't real. That's a story for

37:04

another day. And again, if you put her

37:06

brain in the dog and walk backwards, but

37:08

unless all women come together, this is not

37:10

going to stop. If the LPGA, the women

37:12

on the LPGA don't come together and say,

37:14

we just won't play, right? And here's what

37:16

I love. Here's, here's the funniest argument, right?

37:18

Oh, well, let's, let's make a trans division.

37:21

Let's make a trans division for athletes. That's going to

37:23

turn into men's. That's a men's division. It's a

37:25

men's division. That's what it's going to

37:27

turn into. So women have

37:29

to stop it. And unless they don't, we

37:31

can sit here and scream and bring our

37:33

pitch, pitchforks and torches and run up to

37:36

the city council. It's not going to change.

37:38

They've got to stop it. I agree completely.

37:40

Women have to lead the charge because you're

37:42

only seeing this dominance in sports from one

37:44

side of the transition, right? And Riley Gaines

37:46

is such a great leader and such a

37:48

great voice for these young ladies. And I

37:50

love when she said, sometimes I have to

37:52

pinch myself that I have a million social

37:54

media followers just for saying the statement,

37:56

men and women are different. Yeah. She's

37:59

testifying. Congress to tell them

38:01

the difference of why men shouldn't be

38:04

entering women's locker rooms. Not only women,

38:06

but the most athletic

38:08

famous women need to stand up.

38:10

Serena Williams, the voice

38:12

that young girls go to, who they

38:14

watch playing in golf. Caitlin Clark in

38:16

women's basketball, WNBA. There's certain females out

38:18

there who would stand up and say

38:21

something that could make a difference, but

38:23

they won't do it because of what

38:25

you brought up earlier in the show.

38:27

They're too scared to lose sponsorships. There's

38:29

too scared to lose status in life.

38:31

So that's why they sit behind a wool

38:33

cover and not sing. I think you see

38:35

Martina Navratilova stands up and always addresses this

38:38

issue. And when you see the vitriol that

38:40

she receives and the pushback, it shows you

38:42

why more females who are in their prime

38:44

won't speak up. Look at JK Rowling. Yeah,

38:47

I was just going to say her name. She

38:49

came up with Harry Potter, man. Yeah, it's pretty

38:51

wild. It's unfortunate. It is the reality. But again,

38:53

I think we let off the conversation with this

38:55

is that the more that people are willing to

38:57

dissent, the less it becomes a dissent,

39:00

then it's no longer a dissent anymore. And everybody's like, yeah,

39:02

this is actually true. And this is where we need to

39:04

go. No, I

39:07

again, and this is why, you know, what

39:09

I said earlier, dissent does move us forward

39:11

and it shines a light on everything, right?

39:14

So at least at worst,

39:16

you can have a good perspective or

39:18

an opinion on it, wherever you land,

39:20

at least when we're arguing or we're

39:22

debating or we're doing something, you are

39:24

getting every area, the whole spectrum, the

39:27

whole window, as you referred to it

39:29

earlier, of the argument. Because

39:31

without that, if it's going to be narrow

39:33

sided, if it's like, you know, looking at

39:35

a kaleidoscope, right, you're never going to get

39:37

anywhere. So again, dissent is so important. Because

39:39

I think at the end, at least at

39:41

worst, as I mentioned, you can get a

39:44

valuable opinion or find out what you think

39:46

are what you really believe about something because

39:48

you've gotten different perspectives. Let

39:50

me shift gears a little bit. I'm curious

39:53

what you guys think with what you do

39:55

on a daily basis, where sports, all sports

39:57

in general, come into play with the cultural

39:59

conversation. that we're having because I think

40:01

a lot of the times it's easy to dismiss

40:03

sports as people playing a game I don't watch

40:06

admittedly a whole lot of sports myself, but I

40:08

realized the relevancy of it I realize a lot

40:10

of it is a metaphor for life I love

40:12

sports for young men, but I'm curious

40:15

for from your guys's take is Sports

40:18

important in the cultural conversation and do

40:20

these things move us forward or is

40:22

it purely just entertainment? Um, no,

40:24

I think it's unbelievably important and it

40:26

for many reasons one you brought

40:29

up I think it's a great teacher of life

40:31

I mean I learned a lot of my best

40:33

life lessons from sports sports has given me an

40:35

opportunity to have success and Provide for my wife

40:37

and hopefully our kids someday But as far as

40:40

the the cultural aspect of it where I think

40:42

sports is most important in the culture is that

40:44

it needs to be A haven that is not

40:46

polluted by the divisiveness that we see in every

40:48

other area of culture, right? I feel like sports

40:51

is a haven where if I go to a

40:53

game, I don't want it to be pride night

40:55

I don't want it to be hetero night. I don't

40:57

want it to be I sit by the stove and

40:59

rub a balloon night I want to

41:01

go to the bar to watch a game. We

41:03

have bark at the park. That's great We can

41:05

have the sisterhood of the poor right out there

41:07

raising money for charity but I don't want the

41:09

sisterhood of indulgence or whatever that was that the

41:12

Like like I feel like yeah I

41:15

feel like some people have tried to

41:17

hijack sports and we see this on the

41:19

four letter network on all this to to

41:21

put Politics into people to use it as

41:23

a vehicle to drive their political agenda home

41:25

when in when in reality Sports should be

41:27

one of the biggest havens We have when

41:29

I go to a game and mom sitting

41:31

down and my team scores and I look

41:33

to the person next to me and they're

41:35

Wearing the same colors that I have on

41:37

because they're supporting the team I'm not gonna

41:39

ask them what they think about immigration or

41:41

abortion. I'm gonna high-five them We just scored

41:43

a touchdown. Please God, can we get a

41:45

stop on defense? That's what where

41:47

I think sports should should unite us Sports

41:50

should not divide us more than I love this team

41:52

and you love that team So I don't think it

41:54

needs to be a cultural sphere, right? Unless

41:56

we're talking about men and women's sports, which is

41:58

just ridiculous. It's not even political to me, it's like

42:00

it's not political to turn my blinker on when I'm on

42:02

the interstate. It's just safety. I feel like that should be

42:05

one of the places we can go where you say, hey,

42:07

listen, I know you want to vote for Trump.

42:09

I know you want to vote for Biden. Or you hate

42:11

this group of people. Or you hate that group of people.

42:13

Hey, let's go watch the Ravens game, man. Let's go watch

42:15

the Ravens and the Chiefs. We're Americans at the end of

42:17

the day. Sports is something that we do best. I

42:20

just wish it would, it would be more of

42:22

a haven for people to come together and not

42:24

hijack, especially by the left, in my opinion, to

42:27

be able to force a political agenda home. Well,

42:29

not only is sports important, not only is

42:31

it more than just entertainment, but the origins

42:33

of sports is one of the most important

42:35

pillars in our society. I mean, think about

42:38

it. It was, you know, it was the

42:40

respite for young men when they weren't at

42:42

war to stay fit, to stay ready during

42:44

war times. Now, luckily we don't

42:46

have to deal with that in the same capacity

42:48

that some of our ancestors did having to always

42:50

stay at the ready. And so sports is obviously

42:52

a little bit different. I don't know. We'll see.

42:54

You see guys getting drunk at the top shelf,

42:56

cheering, cheering at the bills games. I understand

42:59

that. But for our young men,

43:01

especially young people, but especially young men

43:03

and for these sports like football and

43:05

hockey and sports that have physical consequences

43:07

when you make a mistake. I mean,

43:09

that right there can provide a wealth

43:11

of life lessons that are exponential returns,

43:13

even as a nine, 10, 11 year

43:15

old. Now we're going to do

43:17

a segment on our show this week to

43:19

talk about the California lawmakers trying to ban

43:22

tackle football for 10 and 11

43:24

year olds out there in the golden state. We're going

43:26

to be talking about that. So make sure you tune

43:28

into craning company this week. But when I just,

43:30

when I think about the first time I played tackle football

43:32

at 11 years old and I think about,

43:35

I still remember Simon Strickland coming off the edge,

43:37

someone who's bigger than me and weighed more than

43:39

me and to understand like the biggest guy on

43:41

the field can, can hurt you at 11 years

43:44

old. If you don't do your job and your

43:46

teammate doesn't do their job. I mean that right

43:48

there provided a pillar and

43:50

a foundation for everything that I was

43:52

able to accomplish in life, despite not

43:54

making it to the NFL, despite not

43:56

doing anything currently today that requires me

43:58

to be a physical. or to

44:00

be a bodybuilding champion or something like

44:02

that. But just the idea knowing what

44:05

I'm capable of when

44:07

someone could hurt me physically if I make a

44:09

mistake. Well, go ahead. Yeah, I don't think one,

44:11

I don't think a football cares what color you

44:13

are, right? I don't think a baseball cares what

44:16

religion or what you believe in. I

44:19

think one thing about sports is it

44:21

brings guys together from so many different

44:23

backgrounds, so many different places and

44:26

the friendships and the family that you go through and

44:28

kind of what you were saying earlier, David, once you

44:30

get on the field, whether that's a baseball diamond, you

44:32

get on the football field and you get hit or

44:34

something like this, there's no one you can go cry

44:37

to. There's no one you can go run to. You

44:39

can't go run to mommy. It teaches you life lessons

44:41

that you're gonna have to get back up in life.

44:43

And we see that in society today, we have someone

44:45

who one thing goes wrong and they can complain to

44:47

getting on social media, getting on this, getting on Twitter.

44:49

But back in the day, man, it's

44:52

either shit or get off the pot, right? And

44:54

that's what you learn in a young lesson. And that carries you through

44:56

life, man. It gets you to where you wanna be in life.

44:59

Well, I had a coach one time tell me, and I think this is the best way to put it, because

45:02

we were doing condition. It was in the summer. It

45:05

was hot. We were running one 10s. And he was

45:07

like, listen, he's like, we're gonna run three

45:09

more, all right? I know you guys are absolutely worn

45:12

out, but we're gonna run three more. And I'm

45:14

not doing this to punish you. I'm not doing

45:16

this because I like to see you suffer. At

45:19

some point for most of you guys, pretty much all

45:21

of you, you are gonna have a wife,

45:24

children, a mortgage payment, an electric bill,

45:26

a car payment, and that alarm is

45:28

gonna ring at 6 30 in

45:30

the morning, and you're gonna have to get your ass up and go

45:32

to work. And that's what you're gonna do, because

45:35

that's what you learned here when it's

45:37

hard, when it's tough, when it's not

45:39

handed to you. You have a responsibility

45:41

to yourself, to your teammates and your

45:43

family to go get the job done.

45:45

And I think that's something that we

45:47

are lacking in society today, the responsibility,

45:50

not just of men, but of everybody.

45:52

So when that alarm clock rings at

45:54

6 30 in the morning, I'm getting up and going to

45:56

work, and I'm gonna give it my best shot, because it's

45:58

what I do for what I have. and

46:00

who I'm responsible for. And I think that's

46:02

what sports teaches you. And that's why our

46:05

show is important on a daily basis for

46:07

those reasons. Yes, it becomes easier and more

46:09

clickable whenever there's something in the public news

46:11

about men being in women's sports or about

46:13

a star athlete not standing for the national

46:16

anthem and we can hammer that. And that's

46:18

an intersection that perfectly intersects with the daily

46:20

wire and sort of the missional statement of

46:22

our company. But even when those incidents don't

46:24

happen for all of the reasons that you

46:27

just heard the importance of sports, that's why

46:29

our show is important on a daily

46:31

basis. Now we spend more time these days

46:33

talking about sports than we do playing them,

46:35

but it's important for young men in our

46:37

society to understand why sports writ large is

46:40

still an important pillar in our society. Yeah,

46:42

yeah. I mean, that's all well said. I definitely agree

46:44

with the, even just with

46:47

the racism, you know, I think

46:49

sports arguably has probably done

46:51

more to end racism than just about any

46:54

other outlet out there. Jackie

46:56

Robinson. Exactly. Now

46:58

there was the, it

47:00

needed to break through, it needed to happen, but you know, you

47:02

look at any young man's,

47:05

you know, wall and the posters that he has,

47:07

a white kid's gonna have a

47:09

black athlete's poster on his wall. A black kid's

47:11

gonna have a white kid's or white athlete's poster

47:13

on his wall. Like I'm not worried about whether

47:15

or not you're black or white or whatever. Same

47:17

thing with the military. I don't need to know

47:20

if you're black. I need to know how well

47:22

you can shoot because I need to be able

47:24

to stand right beside you and take care of

47:26

the enemy. And I think this is what

47:28

we ought to be focusing on, not immutable

47:31

characteristics that none of us can control. For

47:34

sure. And again, that's one of the biggest

47:36

problems that we have. I mean, you're punished

47:38

or you're glorified for things that nobody has

47:40

any control over and it's not about merit.

47:42

And I think people make a mistake. And

47:44

honestly, I think a lot of white people

47:46

make this mistake is they say, and I

47:48

heard Nikki Haley say this the other day,

47:51

well, I had black friends growing up. Like

47:54

that to me is one of the worst

47:56

ways to put it. When I'm

47:58

meeting somebody, the first thing I don't look at it, Oh,

48:00

it's a black person. I'm gonna make them my

48:02

friends. So people don't think I'm racist. I have

48:04

friends. I have friends that are, that just happen

48:06

to be white. I have friends that just happen

48:08

to be black. I have friends that just happen

48:10

to be Hispanic. Hell, I have friends that just

48:12

happen to be Alabama fans, right? But they're friends

48:14

with me too. So at the end of the

48:16

day, I think going about it and oh, I

48:18

have this quota of Hispanic friends or see, I'm

48:21

not racist. To me, you're looking at color to

48:23

start with. Like what you're compartmentalizing your friends by

48:25

the color of their skin. No, I have friends.

48:27

I have teammates. I don't have black teammates. I

48:29

don't have white teammates. I'll have teammates. It

48:31

just, at some point, that's the worst way to go

48:33

about it. And it's a trap that I think a

48:35

lot of people fall into. Well,

48:37

it's also, but you gotta be careful though, because

48:39

now it's also racist if you don't see color.

48:41

So you know, you gotta pay both sides of

48:43

the fence on this one. You gotta be careful.

48:45

You gotta head coach the Patriots. Yeah. Here's how

48:47

you work around it. You say friends of blackness.

48:49

You put their personhood first, right? Not black friends,

48:51

friends of blackness. But look, I'm here to help

48:53

you guys out. You can lean on me and

48:55

I'll charge a small consulting fee of $10,000 a

48:57

pop. I don't care if you're water

49:00

black. I'm not going to say that ever. Yeah. Just

49:02

be aware of that. Okay, we don't owe me

49:05

money. So yeah. Yeah.

49:07

Catch the ball. Yeah. Can you come down

49:09

from safety and make a tackle? Yeah, that's

49:12

exactly right. That's exactly right. I

49:14

think there's another important aspect here, and you guys hit

49:16

on it too, is making sure that we have an

49:18

outlet for communities of fatherless young men. I hear

49:21

from guys every single day who are like, Hey, you

49:23

know, how can I give back? How can

49:25

I contribute? Go down to your community

49:28

center and tell them you're willing to coach. Like

49:30

those community centers need so much help. They

49:32

don't, a lot of the times that

49:35

you'd be surprised, you guys may not, because you might

49:37

be aware of this, how often it's women who are

49:39

coaching our young boys and nothing against

49:42

women being involved and wanting to

49:44

be involved, but we need men to coach them. And

49:47

they're just not getting enough men to come in

49:49

to contribute to help and to help lead these

49:51

young men in the absence of having a father.

49:53

I didn't have a permanent father figure around a

49:55

whole lot when I was young, but I

49:57

had coaches, I got one. I just messaged him. He was my head. football

50:00

coach in high school. 23 years

50:02

later, him and I are still friends. We're still talking.

50:06

This was such an integral part of my childhood.

50:08

And one that, you know, I knew his name is

50:10

Matt labrum. I knew he cared about

50:12

us. He loved us, man, he was hard as

50:14

hell on us. He could give you a look

50:17

and not say anything. And you knew

50:19

you were in deep shit. But we knew he

50:21

always cared about us. Yeah, we

50:23

used to call that when my dad would make that foot

50:25

we called iron face. My dad just

50:27

so happened to play like five years in the

50:29

NFL. He's six to 240 pound middle linebacker. So

50:31

when he made that face, you knew it was

50:34

not. Yeah, it was. Yeah, it's exactly right. But

50:36

here's what I'll say. You need both, right? You

50:38

need that strong male presence. You need that that

50:40

female presence as well to give you kind of

50:42

the yin and yang a little bit of it.

50:44

And I'm gonna be honest, there's a lot of

50:46

cowards out there, man. There's a lot of guys

50:48

out there that just, you know, hit and run

50:50

honestly, and never hang around. And to me, that's

50:52

one of the most despicable acts.

50:55

And it's the biggest problem I think

50:57

we have in this country is father,

51:00

father absence in the home to not help complete

51:02

the nuclear family. And not even just from a

51:04

sports standpoint, just from a life standpoint, but the

51:06

closest you can get involved for some guys is

51:08

to go down and volunteer at the rec to

51:10

be a coach to be able to maybe be

51:12

that male presence in that young man's life that

51:15

he can look back to and say, well, I

51:17

used to be able to get away with this.

51:19

But you know, coach Crane, if I do this,

51:21

he's going to get on me. Maybe I can't

51:23

play in my basketball game this Thursday. There's consequences

51:25

for it. You kind of lay that foundation. But

51:27

yeah, it's a great way to give back. And

51:30

even at the college level, you

51:32

know, being able to recruit guys that there's a story. There's

51:35

a kid we signed when I was coaching out

51:37

of New Orleans, in the ninth ward,

51:40

who literally went down there

51:42

and our official visit to his official visit

51:44

came up, then we went down to his

51:46

house, had dirt floors, no father, mom

51:48

was addicted to drugs, wasn't even there. He had

51:51

four younger brothers and sisters. He was the oldest,

51:53

didn't play football his junior year, because he'd have

51:55

to come home and take care of his brother

51:57

and sister. He goes and plays his senior year.

52:00

ends up getting recruited, comes

52:02

out of nothing, is a three year

52:04

all conference player in the Sunbelt, and

52:06

now he's the vice president of a

52:09

concrete company in New Orleans and is

52:11

making six figures and has totally changed

52:13

the trajectory of his family. Cause he

52:16

got that opportunity, right? Because he

52:18

took that chance and that's what sports gave him

52:20

and that's what the coaches and the men who

52:22

were able to mold him at that high school

52:24

and then in college gave him that opportunity or

52:26

Lord knows what he'd be doing. So I mean,

52:29

I agree with you a hundred percent. That's a

52:31

great example that men constantly should work on

52:33

improving themselves, right? One of Jordan Peterson's initial

52:35

12 rules is, treat yourself like someone you're

52:37

responsible for. Because if you get your own

52:39

life in order, everyone else around the community

52:42

or the younger siblings in your family are

52:44

looking to you. So sometimes when I think

52:46

about myself and my situation, how can I

52:48

best help the world? Maybe it's as simple

52:51

as making sure that I've gotten my own

52:53

life together and I have one son right

52:55

now, I'm about to have two daughters, but

52:57

for sure with my one son to raise

53:00

him in such a way that he becomes

53:02

a man and that he is a responsible member

53:04

of society, maybe that single act is the best

53:07

thing that I can do for the entire world.

53:09

If everyone else follows suit, what a planet it

53:11

would be. For sure. Well, I

53:13

mean, one of the things I tell the guys is, and

53:16

this is met with sometimes some criticism and

53:18

can at times be controversial is you need

53:20

to get as wealthy as you possibly can

53:22

be. You need to get out of debt. You

53:24

need to make as much money as you possibly can in a

53:26

virtuous way, because when you have

53:28

money, you're able to go coach

53:31

the teams. You're able to donate to charity.

53:33

My oldest son, this

53:36

community is starting a lacrosse program and

53:39

they're just getting geared up. They're trying to get

53:41

gear and equipment for their kids. I'm in a

53:43

position where I can donate. I can't donate a

53:45

bunch of time, but I can donate some money

53:47

to make sure these kids have the equipment they

53:49

need, but that's not gonna happen if you aren't

53:51

building wealth. So I wholeheartedly agree with that. Fix

53:53

yourself, it gives the opportunity to fix the environment

53:55

around you. Well, I used to

53:57

do something with my DB room, whenever we'd have

53:59

guys. come in, younger guys, the older guys already

54:01

knew, and they had been in the culture. The first

54:03

thing I should tell them is every day when you

54:05

wake up, the first thing you're gonna do is make

54:07

your bed. That's what you're gonna do.

54:10

That's the first thing you're gonna do. And I'd

54:12

go first three weeks in check and see when

54:14

they got up, where they went to class, where

54:16

they're coming to meetings, was that bed made? Because

54:18

it's a very good starting point on getting yourself

54:20

organized and being responsible or something. And it's amazing

54:23

you would see guys who maybe came from backgrounds

54:25

where they weren't asked to be super responsible. Maybe

54:27

it's something they're not used to. It's amazing what

54:29

a little act like that can do to move

54:31

you forward. And when you talk about accumulating wealth,

54:33

I agree with you 100%. It's a lot easier

54:36

to change things when I'm able to help you

54:38

out and give you opportunities. Well, to get

54:40

opportunities, you need money. Like we live

54:42

in the real world. It's 2024.

54:44

You need money to do things. And like you

54:46

said, you do it in a virtuous way. But

54:48

even on top of that, I want to acquire

54:50

wealth because I want my kids to have it

54:52

better than I had it. You don't want to

54:54

spoil them, obviously. There's ways that you teach. But

54:56

I want to accumulate wealth because I want to

54:59

be able to give my wife, my son, my

55:01

daughter, my dogs, the other members of my family.

55:03

I want to leave it better than I found

55:05

it. And I think that's something where, you know,

55:07

me and you are wholeheartedly 100%

55:10

in agreement because then there's the offshoot of the

55:12

charity of the being able to coach of, hey,

55:14

we can finally get to lacrosse gear so these

55:16

guys can go out and compete. And even if

55:18

it changes one person, even if it helps one

55:20

person, it's totally worth it. Yeah, I love

55:22

hearing you guys bring up the importance of money.

55:24

It reminds me of something that I read one

55:26

time that said, go out in life and make

55:28

a million dollars, not for the money, but for

55:30

what it will make of you to achieve that.

55:33

I mean, think about it. If you're able to

55:35

go make a million dollars, that's a lot of

55:37

money. You're clearly capable in many respects. I mean,

55:39

like you said, it should go without saying that

55:41

you're getting that money in a morally right way

55:44

and in a responsible way or else it circumvents

55:46

the point that I'm trying to make anyway. But

55:48

if you're able to scale a business or to

55:50

have a skill set that warrants someone

55:52

giving you a million dollars over time,

55:54

then clearly you've developed something that is

55:56

worth offering the world. Well, I think,

55:58

I think all of you were right. And

56:00

I think making a bunch of money can bring a

56:02

lot of change. But I do think just the littlest

56:04

things, even if you don't make a lot of money

56:06

being there for those kids, it's just

56:09

what matters most. I feel like a

56:11

lot of kids just have nobody there to look

56:13

to, to ask questions, just to figure things out.

56:15

And once you're alone, once you hit that depression

56:17

by yourself and that room starts to squeeze and

56:19

it starts to squeeze pretty quick. So the littlest

56:21

thing I've loved, coach, and it's one of the

56:23

probably the favorite thing I do in life, just

56:26

being there for a kid and just helping him on his

56:28

journey to what he's going to be. But a lot of

56:30

these kids don't have that. So even if you don't make

56:32

a lot of money, man, and even, you know, you work

56:34

at McDonald's, if you have a chance to go coach some

56:37

kid at a gym,

56:39

out of rec center, go do it. Cause I promise you, he

56:41

don't care where you work at. He just cares that you're there.

56:44

One of the, one of the funny things I hear is a

56:46

lot of guys will say, like I'll ask for an assistant coach

56:49

and you know, from the parents, the kids that are involved and

56:51

they're like, ah, I don't, I, I don't have any experience. I'm

56:53

like, bro, they're nine. Can you hold that bag? I'm

56:56

going to ask you to be Phil Jackson, dude.

56:58

I need you to be there, bring some capri

57:00

sons and make sure they're doing what they're supposed

57:02

to do. That's right. That's right.

57:05

Well guys, what's next on the docket for you specifically

57:07

for daily wire? Obviously, you know, the thing I,

57:09

and I talked with the, with a

57:11

lot of you guys about this with the daily wire is I love

57:14

that you're leading the cultural charge from entertainment

57:17

to sports, to political commentary,

57:19

to culture commentary. Now there's

57:21

a Benkey, which is a

57:23

kids entertainment. So what's next? What

57:25

do you guys got going on? Well,

57:28

I mean, there's so many things that, that, you

57:30

know, the daily wire is doing right now

57:32

to, to help, you know, fight those cultural

57:34

wars and, and try and restore some, some

57:36

balance to the forces. As I say, you

57:38

know, you brought up the children's network. We

57:40

have our sports show that continues to grow

57:42

and get the word out there and, and

57:44

popularity. Obviously you look at what's coming out

57:46

with snow white coming down the pipe this

57:48

year, pin dragon, which they just got done.

57:51

And I'm sure we will have something cooking

57:53

up outside of obviously just the, the

57:55

sports show that we do, but no, I

57:57

mean, it's, again, it's, I feel like, and,

58:00

look at Jeremy's razors and the chocolates and

58:02

stuff like that. The coolest thing about this

58:04

place is, it's not necessarily,

58:06

at least in my opinion, just

58:10

going out there to do something to do it.

58:12

It's the opportunity that presents itself. Who knows what's

58:14

gonna happen tomorrow, what craziness the Daily Wire's gonna

58:16

have to go out here and fix something. You

58:18

know, they're remaking the Wizard of Oz. I don't

58:20

know, to be equitable or whatever it is. I

58:22

don't know, maybe you gotta make one of those.

58:24

But with the Daily Wire, I promise you this,

58:26

gonna keep growing, gonna keep doing it the right

58:28

way and going and fighting on fronts that need

58:30

to be fought on and stuff that needs to

58:32

be preserved. The way of life that we were

58:34

used to growing up and with sports and things

58:36

like that and being able to watch SportsCenter three

58:38

times in a row without feeling like you're a terrible

58:41

person because of what you believe in. So

58:43

with the Daily Wire, I mean, David, who

58:45

knows what's next? The moon. That's my favorite

58:47

part about being with the Daily Wire is

58:49

that you can be a Renaissance man here.

58:52

You can wear multiple hats. I mean, we can

58:54

come in and talk about sports and culture or

58:56

politics. We can act in a movie. We can

58:58

record new music. That is celebrated here.

59:01

And as long as it aligns with the

59:03

missional statement of this company, then it's always

59:05

fully supported. And so we hope to be

59:07

doing this for quite a while here. And

59:09

please check out Craning Company on a daily

59:11

basis. We got the Super Bowl coming up,

59:13

conference championships coming up. So a lot of

59:15

exciting things. Tran, yeah, man, hey, man, all

59:17

that's great. I'm just trying to hit a

59:20

three leg parlay to be honest. Yeah, I

59:22

feel like that's true. Awesome

59:24

guys. We'll tell everybody how to connect with you.

59:26

Obviously, Craning Company, anywhere else you want to direct

59:29

the guys. And then also the movie Lady Ballers

59:31

is out as well. So we want to make

59:33

sure we plug for that. Definitely. You

59:35

can find us just go to dailywire.com. You can

59:37

find us there. We live stream every morning. We're

59:39

live from 6.30 AM to 8 AM Central, 7.30

59:42

AM to 9 AM Eastern. I'm

59:44

not smart enough to know any other time zones other than that. So

59:46

if you live in another one, I'll let you connect the dots. Obviously,

59:49

we're on YouTube and Rumble and all that Apple

59:51

Podcasts and Spotify. Go check out Lady Ballers at

59:53

Daily Wire Plus. Again, it's had a ton of

59:56

success. We're really excited about it. Like

59:58

I said, I want to do it again, but we take live. calls. We

1:00:00

have a live chat. We call our audience the

1:00:02

booster club. It's a group of great people that

1:00:04

keeps growing by the minute. And yeah,

1:00:06

I think if maybe, you know, the

1:00:08

best compliment we get, I think, in my opinion, is

1:00:10

from people who are like, man, I gave up on

1:00:13

sports when it got so political, but you guys

1:00:15

brought me back into it because I have a place

1:00:17

I can go to where yeah, we may talk about

1:00:19

why men shouldn't be in women's sports, right, but you're

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going to get the old school sports show that you

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grew up where when you tune in, it's going to

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be about sports, right? And I think

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that's something that's been missing. So yeah, man,

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check us out. It's a it's a good

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time. We laugh, we scream, Lane cries,

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but dragon on Friday. Yeah, blanks a dragon

1:00:36

on Fridays. We have flaming dragon Friday. It's

1:00:38

a good time. Right

1:00:41

on guys, we'll sync it all up. I appreciate you keep

1:00:43

up the good work and we'll keep promoting what you guys

1:00:45

are doing because I think it's crucial not only in sports,

1:00:47

but in culture in general. So appreciate the work you're doing.

1:00:50

Hey, you too, man. What you're doing, I think

1:00:52

we're all in this together trying to push to

1:00:55

a result that that brings again some balance back

1:00:57

to the force and it's unbelievably important and thanks

1:00:59

so much for having us on and to all

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your audience out there, man. Welcome to it. Gentlemen,

1:01:05

there you go. My conversation with the one

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I think that's the first time I had

1:01:11

three guests I've done to in the past.

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I've never done three. I think it went pretty

1:01:16

well. But I'd love to hear from you. Hopefully

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information from it. And it was

1:01:22

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1:01:42

think it's funny because it hits on something that

1:01:44

is not only so disturbing,

1:01:46

but it's also so true. And

1:01:48

it's, it's absolutely ridiculous what's

1:01:50

happening in the world of sports by letting men

1:01:53

play with women and all sorts of crazy stuff.

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So it mocks that and makes fun of it.

1:01:57

And it does it in a humorous way and

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also an intelligent way and these are the types

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right guys, I appreciate you. Thanks for

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