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three minutes past eight. Siobhan Aharon, good morning
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to you. How are you?
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Morning, Trips. I'm well. How are you? Yeah, pretty
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good. A little bit concerned about... I know.
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I knew you were going to say that. Yeah.
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So a lot of people won't have seen this, right? The footage obviously
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did the rounds on Irish football Twitter immediately
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last night. Kate McKay was injured about 86 minutes
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into the game. At that stage, it
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looked like Arsenal were home and housed, and they were having
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beaten now Bayern Munich 2-0 in the
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second leg to win 2-1 on aggregate. How
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bad was the challenge?
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It was unfortunate
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how it looked and I actually think I
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was watching the game with Rusha, my
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sister, and at that point I went,
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oh, she actually looks like
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she's struggling a little bit here. Now, we
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were joking that, well, if we know Kate McCabe,
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the way we know Kate McCabe, she loves
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a little roll about the floor.
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And then actually when we saw the replay, we thought,
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oh no, she's actually really hurt here. And
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I think that's the first time I've seen Kate go off
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in a long, long time. And she
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looked sore. You could tell that she
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was struggling. And yeah, it
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looks like a sore one. And
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the challenge doesn't look good. But fingers
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crossed she gets positive news today from her
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scan.
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Yeah, in fairness, she obviously
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gets carried off the field.
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And then later, there's a photograph
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of her on Twitter. She's smiling with
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the boots. We've got it up there now. She
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is smiling and the boot is on and you're kind of hoping,
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I mean, I know that the adrenaline after a victory like that,
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because you're through to the semifinal of the Champions League.
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So yeah, fingers.
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She's actually all right. Yeah, I mean,
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listen, massive night for
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the Gunners getting through. And I
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think you're right. I think adrenaline will probably
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have seen Katie through last night and
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smiling and having the crack. But
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if I see another boot, honestly, ahead
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of this World Cup, I'll just start pulling
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my head out now. But I mean,
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she when I saw the boot in the picture, I
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thought, oh, that's not. I didn't expect to see
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that. But
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I know as much as you guys do. She was it
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was sore last night. She did send message saying
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it was very sore, but she will have a scanty day. And
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then the club should give us an update in
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due course. But fingers crossed, it's just
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it's I mean, it looked sore. I saw a picture that
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looked like a bad bruise and a
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little cup. But sometimes I think that could cannot be better.
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You know, instead of, you know, I want to
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take a positive from that. But I'm
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no doctor and and I don't know
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how
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she'll be. But I imagine this morning or
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it will be pretty painful. Yeah, our amateur
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doctors, most notably, column was like,
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oh, it looked more like a contact injury
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as opposed to ligaments. We're like, oh, good
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man, physio, column. But actually,
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you know, we've watched a lot of football. We've seen
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a lot of these injuries and fingers crossed somebody was
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comparing it to Evan Ferguson. Obviously
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we had footage of him in a boot in the aftermath
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of the Liverpool game and he was grand. So,
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yeah, that's what we're
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hoping for. And that's the thing. I
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mean, I remember when when Russia had broke her foot
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in Finland and that playoff game,
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was the same kind of contact kind of thing like
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the stud to the foot but actually when I saw the picture
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of Katie's I thought oh that does look quite, it looked
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sore you know she had a little car and a bruise
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and I thought okay maybe that's more of a positive
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thing to take from this but we
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will see we will find out in due course fingers
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crossed for her. Cathy, what kind of performance
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was it before that because it looks like from all
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the reports Katie McCabe was having an absolute stormer.
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Oh completely I mean the setup for
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the Black Stania school was beautiful
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like it was a classic Katie McCabe pinpoint
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cross you couldn't help like you don't to
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try hard to mess off that sort of cross. I
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think Arsenal, not that they'll
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be disappointed because obviously they went through, but
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they probably should have scored a couple more goals.
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Like they definitely had the opportunities. I
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think for them, it
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was a much more complete performance
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than the week before in Bayern Munich
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in that they were actually able to get goals,
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which has always been something that they've struggled in these
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Champions League games where they've put up a good performance,
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but they haven't been able to score those goals. great
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to see Frieda Madams score in as well.
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She kind of had a bit of a strange
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patch there where she was really, really good when
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she came in after Miedema
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getting their injuries and then tapered
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off a little bit and is kind of coming back up on a high
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now. The big thing for me after last
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night is that I think it kind of leaves Arsenal
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in the same position that Chelsea were last
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week in that they had a big performance,
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a great game, everyone was on a high but
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lost a a couple of big players injuries. So like chances
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are Katie, no matter what the injury is, isn't going to play
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this weekend against City. Kim Little also went off
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after 11 minutes and
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that's probably going to be a big worry for them, Shaban.
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Yeah, I mean, and they've got Manchester City and
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Manchester City are fresh off to now
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one over Chelsea and are just
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on this brilliant form at this moment in
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time. I
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agree with you, Catherine, I don't know
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how both of those players will be back
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in the available this weekend. He's
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going to have to turn it out his bench and they're going to have to dig
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deep. The beauty of it is they're at Bournemouth.
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They know that ground so well, they know that atmosphere
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so well, they know what they have to do against Manchester
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City. The thing is, in my personal
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opinion, I think Manchester City can sometimes play the best
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football and where Arsenal
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have sometimes been lacking, especially
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at this point in the season, Manchester
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City are doing by the bucket load and that's
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banging in the goals. So
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they'll have their work cut out for
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them this Sunday, but
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fingers crossed they can get a win and see them push up that table
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again. last night huge win and
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and could almost be one of the highlights of this
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season so far. It's kind of funny I think when you look
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at the title race and obviously it's so close at
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the moment and you look at every other
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team. So you look at City, they have Bonnie Shaw,
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you look at Ash United, they have
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you know a Latoon, Alessia Russo,
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you look at Chelsea, they have Sam
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Kurt. They all have their kind
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of defined goal scorers whereas
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Arsenal don't really have that so much
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this year. I know like Braxanias was supposed to be that player
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but I mean I think last night they They have 14
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shots and seven of those were on target, seven of those
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were off target and that's probably a good
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statistic for Arsenal this season in terms
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of their shot ratio. They're very
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good at getting the ball, holding the ball, but
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they don't really have that like out and out
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goal scoring ability in
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the same way as the other teams. Is that something that you think
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that's going to hamper them a little bit in this running? Because
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I think they've city and then they've united
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next and they still have another
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big game left to play before the end of the season.
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So like they have quite a difficult run in.
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Yeah, they've still got, I think they've still got Chelsea double
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villa on the last game of the season. Yeah,
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I completely agree with you. However, what I would
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say is I feel that they've been hampered already by
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this. And now I feel that we're starting to come good
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ever so slightly. I think Stina Black's Dennis, is that
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foreign for her? Possibly for her, starting
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to find that little bit of confidence,
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just starting to hit the ground running
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again and just finding that confidence in front of goal. I
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think Caitlin Ford, you know,
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You can rely on her for a few goals. And
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she's looked so brilliant this season. And
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I can sometimes think, OK, just take Kaitlyn
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into that strike position. And
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you can rely on her for goals at Frieda Manham
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when she has games like she has last night and she can
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hit those rockets. You never know what you're going
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to get. But the thing is, there's inconsistencies
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there in that forward line from Arsenal.
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And that's where the problems lie. You know, they're not getting
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goals. they're without Viviana Medema and
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Beth Meads where their goals were coming from.
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So for me, I do have
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to look and go. You give them that injury grace, especially
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when you go up against in Manchester City. I went
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to the North London Derby last week
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and they were a perfect performance But I don't think you can look
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at no disrespect look at spurs and say I
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well, you know, you can really take Huge
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positives in that performance because everyone's been taking
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points off of Spurs Manchester City
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are 14 games unbeaten now, you know
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Arsenal are gonna have to really dig deep and
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finish their chances every single
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one of them they get You mentioned that
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freedom, man. I'm rocket there Shaban I mean and
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if I had my way we would just spend 20 minutes talking
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about that goal and I'm just waiting for the athletic
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to do or someone to do a deep dive on the intricacies
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of every single move in the build up even the Leah
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Williams and flick was just ridiculous.
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Maybe it was the camera angle like just the satisfaction
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of how it went in, but it was some goal.
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Yeah, no, I mean, she does that. She
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does that how many times? In fact, she's
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a bit like Katie McCabe and the fact that she can just pull
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off these worldies, you know, now and then. And
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Katie nearly had one last night as well, didn't she?
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She went off on that lovely little run down the left and
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I thought, oh, and it just went wide of the post,
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but you know, free the man in math thinks
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had a good season. And as you mentioned there, she's
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had this slight dip. But
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when she's on form for me, she's just one
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of the best, you know, and she's a big physical player
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as well. Um, and yeah, that
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goal was absolutely terrific. And then
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also she had that beautiful moment. I think it was,
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was it Palova crossed it in and
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then free the man. I'm did that back
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heel, you know, to Caitlin forwards and
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Caitlin just, she should have just dinked over
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the keeper, but she put it over the bar and I was just like,
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oh my God, that would have been such a beautiful moment had
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that come through. But it didn't.
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But Freedom Animal had a great game last night. Whatever
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it is those players took to the Emirates last
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night, if they bring that, OK,
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they might be missing, Kate McKee, they might be missing
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Kim Little. If they bring that to Manchester City the weekend,
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they've got it all. You know, on their day they can beat anyone. Is
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this a bit of a surprise? Like in
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the build up, people were saying, oh, they don't think they're
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actually going to win the tournament
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outright. But now you're in a semi-final, You've
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got to be thinking, well why not?
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Do you know what? work closely
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with the UWCA. and
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I have seen some outstanding
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performances and it's
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it's
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tournament cup football always
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changes things but Arsenal surprised
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me that last night and I think if they could if
10:14
they get Wolfsburg a PSG whoever that may be
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will find out their fate tonight
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it's gonna be it's gonna be a huge game
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you know we know what Wolfsburg can do some people are
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tipping them as the winners of the competition this time
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round PSG have
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been very very good but they're still not there
10:30
just yet. So I don't know what's the kind
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of side of that draw. You know, I would say if they can get
10:34
PSG, they can make it to final and I look and
10:36
go, wow, what a season, what a season
10:38
for Arsenal. And I don't know where they go in the league from here.
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You know, the league is so tight at this
10:43
moment in time, but as we've mentioned,
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you know, Chelsea, okay, they've dropped the points once again,
10:47
and that shocks me. And
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Chelsea will be putting everything in their game against
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Lyon tonight that they might have tired legs
10:54
at the weekend once again, and they might further drop
10:56
points. But Arsenal have got a
10:58
city, you know, and I look and go if they can, if they
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can put all the focus into the
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Champions League, get a final, you
11:05
know, it would be huge competition, but it would be a
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huge moment for that squad. They've already picked up
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one piece of silverware. They've got the buzz for
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it. They're a good squad, you
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know, they've got a good manager, they've got it all, you know,
11:15
Arsenal do have it all. Okay, we've
11:18
mentioned earlier on the lacking in goals, but I
11:20
think they have so much to offer and it's a great team. And
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imagine, just imagine they get to Eindhoven.
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I mean, what an incredible site that would be. Yeah,
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and imagine that like Katie
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Taylor was linked
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with a move away. It could be one of those great ironies
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where she ends up staying and they win this
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and it's the cementing of a great relationship.
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It could be. I mean, it absolutely could
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be. You know, those moments when in silverware
11:44
will change anybody's, you know, thoughts
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and make them feel where they want to be. You
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can imagine that. We'll wait and see what
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comes at that point in time. And if anything
11:54
else materializes come
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the summer. But, you know, Katie's,
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she's got a lot to focus on.
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You know, I do think I look at
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being close to some of these players and
12:04
they're looking go, there's a hell of a lot on them, you
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know, to win each
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game, to climb back up the table, to
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stay fit, to focus on a World
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Cup. And
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you guys, I want to be full Irish, right?
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I'll say that right now. But the fact that Ruch
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and I were speaking about this last night watching
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the game, she'd watch back the Republic of
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Ireland, the national anthem. And
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she's just like, imagine this in Sydney,
12:29
this moment, you know, playing against
12:31
Australia, this national anthem. And I think,
12:34
wow, like all these players are
12:36
fighting to get on that plane, you know, to be
12:38
there in Virpo squad. And, you
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know, then moments like last night, Katie
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picking up that knock, you just, you feel
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for them, you know, you feel for them. They really, they're
12:47
really giving it everything that they've got. There's a lot on
12:49
them. And I just want them to focus
12:51
on being
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the best that they can be without putting too much
12:54
pressure on themselves. But,
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you know, we're wanting them to win Champions Leagues
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and climb their way back up the table and go to
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the World Cup and get out the group. You know, it's a
13:03
lot on these players. And
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I just want to take a lot of, I think,
13:10
therapy to be ready for
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those big, big moments. It's kind of interesting,
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you're saying, about like, what
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would this mean for, like, Katie in the
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summer? But I think, like, generally this, I think this
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is the sort of week that Arsenal will look
13:23
back as like defining on their season,
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depending on how it goes. Because at the moment, like they're
13:28
in a semifinal for the Champions League, technically
13:30
still in that race in the top
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four. And they have to play City.
13:35
They have United coming up. However, that semifinal
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goes. If they don't
13:39
make it past the semifinal or even if they make it final,
13:42
don't win. If they don't make top three, how
13:45
are they going to hold on to like a certain level
13:47
of player or how are they going to attract the certain
13:49
level of player? Like, as I was saying earlier, in terms
13:51
of them maybe not having that out and out striker
13:54
in the way that a lot of other teams do
13:56
or have that very established can get
13:58
the goals, get the...
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dirty goals that maybe your
14:02
team is down but they strike in
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the ball. And
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for me, this is going to be the most
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interesting part of Arsenal's season in terms
14:11
of the players they're able to keep. You know, like
14:13
Minima's contract was only a year extension.
14:16
There's a lot of other players whose contracts are
14:18
coming up for a renewal. There's a
14:20
lot of players in the league, like the Alessio Russo,
14:22
who Arsenal were interested in in January,
14:24
who are also up for contract
14:27
renewals in the summer, who they might want to try and
14:29
attract in. And this could very
14:31
quickly go from, okay,
14:32
we're in a title race, we're also in
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the Champions League race, to our season
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amounts to a league cup and nothing
14:39
else. I know, I know. Listen,
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you're seeing all the things I think we've been, I've been
14:45
thinking about in my head, you know, the last 24 hours
14:47
anyway, and Bayern are a good team.
14:50
And last night I was thinking, well, if they don't get through, you know,
14:53
Bayern are solid and you can never underestimate the
14:55
Germans, you know, they're, they're so experienced
14:57
and they get the job done. Well, Arsenal were the better
14:59
team last night. And Jodice Ervel had done a press
15:02
conference last weekend
15:02
and he did say on their day, on our
15:05
day, we can be anyone. And they can, and they've
15:07
actually shown that at several times
15:09
now this season. I mean, I was at the 20 Cup
15:11
final at Selhurst Park.
15:14
You know, they
15:15
wiped the floor with Chelsea, you know, and
15:17
I would never have said that even at the beginning
15:19
of this season when Arsenal had Viviena Mirbim
15:22
Bethmead, I was looking and going, there was something about Chelsea.
15:24
But listen, they have their own mountains to climb as well.
15:27
they're wanting to progress in the Champions League. They're wanting
15:29
to win the league. They're looking for another domestic
15:31
quadruple or whatever that was. They got a couple of seasons
15:33
ago. Everyone's doing their own
15:35
thing. And Manchester City are just on
15:37
this run. Manchester United have
15:40
surprised everyone. Aston Villa
15:42
are even doing bits as well. I mean, I don't think they close
15:44
the gap and get to fourth. But, you know, the
15:46
league is just strengthening and strengthening and strengthening.
15:50
And then you get to these competitions like the Champions
15:52
League, like the Connie Cup and those moments for
15:54
for for more silverware. Now
15:57
they've got that buzz from the chronic cut final, now
15:59
they know that they...
16:00
beat Chelsea,
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I think it can go right down to the wire till
16:03
the end of the season, you know, to those games that
16:06
second last game, that last game of the season,
16:09
it's one of the most exciting title
16:11
races we've had in the WSL. It
16:13
keeps it so much more exciting for fans and
16:15
for anybody wanting to get involved and
16:18
support women's football because you've not just got Chelsea
16:20
Arsenal, you know, it's changing all of the time.
16:23
You've got all these teams now just improving and strengthening
16:25
and catching up and that's for me
16:27
what makes the summer even more exciting. Are
16:29
Arsenal going to nick a Les Eruso? Is she
16:31
going to come? Will Chelsea get
16:33
in a bidding war for that? What will Katie McCabe do? There's
16:35
just so much more to focus on now and
16:38
I think that's what's the beauty of this league. It's just
16:40
only going one way now. And, you
16:42
know, Arsenal are important in this league. So,
16:44
so important.
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Can we just go back to that moment where you're sitting
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on the couch watching the anthem? Because everybody's been remarking
16:50
about it. I think it was Elisa Lam did the anthem?
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Yeah. She was amazing. Like, absolutely amazing. And
16:55
they should just book her for the anthem. Book her for Sydney.
16:57
Do you know what I mean? Not a bad idea.
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I feel I'm not playing. I'd say she'd be delighted. So
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sometimes the players love that stuff, but
17:05
sometimes they can feel like, ooh, I
17:07
recognise now. So obviously it sounds
17:09
a little bit like Rish's wrestling with that at the moment,
17:12
the importance of it, but also just
17:14
leaning in and enjoying it. How do you, how
17:17
do they all make sure that it's
17:20
just a positive as opposed to pressure? Because
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like, I don't know, if you ever, the
17:24
best bit of advice I ever got was like a wedding
17:27
speech. want you to succeed? Everybody
17:29
watching the match wants this team to just succeed and
17:32
enjoy it. How do we make sure that they
17:33
feel that? Do you
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know Rusha's, for
17:38
me she's one of the most measured in
17:40
our head, the way she thinks, the way she tries
17:42
to better her thinking, the way she works on mindfulness
17:45
is so important and I think it's because maybe she's
17:47
a smidge older, she's been through the mill in
17:49
injuries, she was out of the WSL
17:52
and had to find a way back in. She's had I've
17:54
had a rough run of luck, Risha,
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so I like how she focuses and how
17:59
can I be better. how can I make sure that I'm thinking
18:01
the best possible thoughts to better
18:04
my experience? You know,
18:06
she speaks about the Ukraine game that Ireland had
18:08
in that play-off where they nearly got to the Euros.
18:11
And she remembers, she recalls everyone
18:13
being so nervous that day. She's like, we
18:16
weren't ever used to being in
18:18
this experience. We've never been this close. And
18:21
everybody was on
18:24
the edge. You know, we weren't prepared
18:26
for going into that game for the nerves, for the pressure
18:28
for knowing that we were one game away from the Euros.
18:30
We'd never been there before. Emma Byrne, who
18:33
I heard on the show earlier on, or, you
18:35
know, she had been in that position with her squad at the time.
18:37
They were close to getting a playoff or dead to get a
18:39
playoff. And she said
18:42
how that
18:43
now she looks at that moment
18:45
and the game against Scotland and the
18:47
actual playoff for the World Cup. Ireland were ready.
18:50
You know, that they had, they had dealt with those nerves
18:52
before. They knew the job that they had
18:54
to do. They knew the occasion and it
18:57
was having that experience of losing a
18:59
game in that high pressure moment that's helped
19:01
them get to this point now. And
19:03
I think that's just such a
19:05
great way of thinking. You know, the fact that you
19:07
don't lose, you learn. You know, they've learned so much from
19:09
that experience. They've got
19:12
through the play off. Now they're going to go to World Cup and
19:14
they're going to open it. And this is to be the
19:16
most watched sporting event I think in history.
19:18
And I look and go this beautiful country
19:21
with so many incredible sports stars are
19:24
going to open up the World Cup and just
19:26
set an example for so many and hopefully
19:29
touch with my sister and Katie will be there
19:31
and all of their friends and Vida and
19:33
it's just going to be this beautiful occasion that everybody
19:36
enjoys and just savors that moment and go, God, we've
19:38
done it. You know, we've done it. We've made it here. Now
19:40
let's just be the vengefully
19:41
solid and just try and get a couple of goals and be
19:44
Australian and get to the group. You know, it's going to be so hard,
19:46
but enjoy it. Do you know what? It made me forget
19:48
that we actually had to play a match after all that. I was
19:50
like transporting myself to Australia at
19:52
the moment of hearing the national anthem. I was getting the
19:54
goosebumps and then I was like, oh yeah, we actually have to play Australia.
19:57
And then you just play the
20:00
We could just cut it off after the national
20:02
add-ons and just be like, what a great moment. Let's
20:04
end it there. In
20:06
fairness
20:06
there, Anthem is also pretty good. And
20:09
how is Reisha's injury at the moment? She's
20:12
good. She's really, really good. She's still got a
20:14
bit of wrap round her knee, but she's
20:16
back on the pitch, you know, fingers crossed. She
20:18
makes it to the squad this weekend. They're playing Chelsea,
20:20
asking her to have Chelsea. Again,
20:23
asking her to have this great season and I look at her and go, look at her
20:25
and go, God, it's a shame. You know, you've been injured so
20:27
much of it, yet your team's flying,
20:29
but again, she's positive. You know, she's really positive.
20:32
She's hoping that she's gonna get to Vira Pao's camp because
20:34
they go to America, I think, on Monday. Don't
20:37
they? They go to Texas on Monday. So
20:39
fingers crossed she makes it to that. And fingers crossed,
20:41
again, she focuses on what's ahead and what's in
20:43
her control, and that is a World Cup. And
20:47
the opportunity to be there for Ireland, I think, is just
20:49
everything she could ever dream of. So she's
20:52
doing really well. She's recovered nicely and she's
20:54
in good spirits. I'm
20:55
always really interested in that whole evolution
20:57
of players embrace
20:59
of sports psychology and you're talking about mindfulness there.
21:01
Are the squad getting helped, you know, or is
21:03
it an individual thing more that people go
21:06
through?
21:06
I believe they have the option
21:09
to access sports psychiatrists. I believe
21:11
in sports psychologists, I believe that they are there
21:13
on hand to help them. I hope so
21:15
too because
21:17
it's such an important thing. You know, we're
21:20
always listening to podcasts and high performance
21:22
podcasts and you know, the amount of sports
21:24
stars who say, you
21:26
know, that they needed that help and guidance to train
21:29
their brain. You know, they've got the first bodies that they've
21:31
both trained and focused
21:34
athletes, but the brains, the most powerful
21:36
muscle, you know, if you're not in control of that, you're in trouble.
21:39
So it's to strengthen that and to be prepared and
21:41
to think the right thoughts going into high pressure situation
21:44
like that. I hope it's a hope that they're all getting
21:46
it. them maximising on it because it's one
21:48
of the most important skills that you can
21:50
have.
21:51
Yeah, well it's a great image of you guys sitting
21:53
watching the anthem and watching it back and going, that's
21:55
going to be something that we get to experience.
21:57
So, yeah, brilliant to have you I'll be with you this morning,
21:59
Chavon.
22:00
Thanks a million as always. Thanks for having me. Have
22:02
a good day guys. She's been a her and give us her thoughts on The
22:05
Arsenal game last night. You're obviously an Arsenal
22:07
supporter are you feeling comfortable confident
22:09
that they're gonna go on and win this thing now or
22:11
is This just a bit where you have your
22:13
hopes dashed again Kathleen
22:15
I don't know Emma
22:17
Byrne has been saying since like the start of the
22:19
season that Arsenal are gonna win the Champions League and
22:22
I Have laughed at her many
22:24
the time when she has said this she seems to know the
22:26
game She does she does know the game but
22:28
I just they've burned me so
22:30
many times before and especially after the
22:33
Injuries and the kind of patch they went through
22:35
where like they had such a good
22:37
run of form so many clean sheets like
22:40
Banging in the goals and then they took this massive
22:42
dip and it looked like they weren't going
22:44
to even make
22:45
the Champions League Places never mind actually go
22:47
on to win the Champions League I think Shabana's
22:49
right and what she says it kind of depends on who
22:53
they get for the next round my preference
22:55
would probably be PSG over Valsberg
22:58
and we've had a lot of battles with Valsberg
23:01
over the years, which we haven't come out on top of
23:03
and I think
23:04
PSG are a little
23:06
bit more flaky as a side and I think
23:09
the They're a lot less physical
23:11
than Valsberg and I think that would probably suit our
23:13
smell a little bit more So
23:16
I'm conflicted at the moment in that I
23:18
think we possibly could do something in the Champions League
23:20
but I'm concerned that they're not going
23:23
to make the top three in the league and not making
23:26
Champions League for next year would be really
23:28
disastrous for Arsenal I think at this stage
23:30
because there are a lot of good players on
23:32
the market and they're not going to come to Arsenal unless
23:35
They
23:35
know they're playing Champions League football
23:38
money money out of itself when he cures everything does
23:40
talk Jonas Eudeville was referencing the Emirates being
23:42
like it there's a realistic vision now that this could
23:44
be the to the home ground for this team,
23:47
like 20,000 fans there last night, but when he
23:49
took over that probably seemed
23:51
fanciful as an idea, but now all of a sudden
23:53
you're like, well, yeah. Yeah. Yeah,
23:55
no, it definitely could. I mean, I think probably
23:58
more realistic is the, You know, you think.
24:00
like a North London Derby or something there and
24:02
there's like 40,000. It's definitely like I've done
24:04
Champions League nights. I was there when they played Barcelona
24:07
and there was maybe like 12 to 14,000 I think and I'm probably
24:12
of the opinion that unless you're getting like
24:14
that 30, 40,000 in somewhere like the Emirates.
24:17
It gets lost. It gets a little bit lost and
24:19
like it it still was cool to see the team
24:21
there but I would probably rather them
24:23
find somewhere that's like a halfway
24:25
house between Bournwood that's like a couple of thousand
24:28
and the Emirates, which is like a couple
24:30
of tens of thousands. I'm like, why can't we have a, you
24:33
know, a ground that's like 20,000 that you can sell out
24:35
every weekend or you can nearly sell out every
24:37
weekend and then do the massive
24:39
stuff at the Emirates and.
24:41
It's London. There has to be a stadium that would
24:43
be suitable. I mean, obviously you wanted to be close enough to
24:45
where the fan base is. Well, I mean, like Bournemouth is in the middle
24:47
of nowhere. It's literally, it's so
24:50
difficult to get to. So anything could
24:52
be better than that.
24:53
Can I just ask you about the squad? Are
24:55
we expecting any
24:58
ringers to be coming in at this stage? This is
25:01
the last squad really where there's an opportunity for somebody
25:03
who we haven't heard of that they've been working
25:05
feverishly to get a passport for who comes
25:07
in and they get a look at pre-world
25:09
cup. Are you expecting any of that or is the
25:11
squad basically the squad?
25:13
So the only ones that have kind of
25:15
come out, John Fallon reported back
25:17
when the team were in Spain that
25:20
Megan Finnegan, the Everton defender And
25:22
Sophie Whitehouse, who's the Louis goalkeeper,
25:25
were going to come into the squad for this camp.
25:28
Those are the only ones I've heard of. Apart from that,
25:30
there hasn't been any rumblings of other players
25:33
coming in. I think it's interesting, again, that
25:35
they're all defensive players, seems to be wherever
25:38
your pal's mind is at the moment. I'm
25:42
not expecting any massive surprises. I'll
25:44
be interested to see now that the, like,
25:47
women's Premier Division is back up and running if
25:50
there'll be any more inclusions from
25:52
that. I don't know if
25:54
there will be at this stage. I think
25:57
I wasn't particularly impressed with Abby Larkin
25:59
in the and the last camp, but
26:01
she still is very young. I mean, she's only 17 and
26:04
I think for me it seemed
26:06
like she was brought into that camp to
26:09
almost give her the experience of being in the
26:11
national team setting and give her some game time
26:14
in that and kind of make
26:16
it a little less daunting for future years. Anja
26:19
Gorman is obviously one of the big shouts from the
26:21
league as well. So that would probably be the
26:23
thing I'd be most interested to see more so than
26:26
do they actually fly anyone in that we haven't heard
26:28
of before, unless it's some big name and then we're
26:30
all going crazy tomorrow being like can you be k-boo?
26:33
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