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rugby art and play England at

0:53

Twickenham this weekend. It is quite

0:55

the test for us as delighted

0:57

say we have our capers and

0:59

how. Around and where there's this morning about. Very

1:01

welcome and I might start with you: You should probably

1:04

be playing this weekend. How you feeling that moment? Yeah.

1:08

Yeah it's or I go into

1:10

taken him it's always a pretty

1:12

special occasions a have yeah they're

1:15

better shape and to be missed

1:17

it now that is. This boys net

1:19

so you got injured in the league game. I

1:21

think that right. Yes, Yeah, but

1:23

my finger. And

1:25

had it been back together nearly

1:27

two weeks ago now and that

1:30

yeah bet if it frustrating one

1:32

because it's up, see such a

1:34

small injury and yet bears can

1:36

vote you out. A pro tournament

1:38

and an. Intensely.

1:40

Painful the smaller the ab Nice is

1:42

this more the injury generally the higher

1:44

levels of pain. And.

1:47

When I knew she did it it

1:49

was pretty painful and that it is

1:51

not been too bad since I've not

1:53

been up to that. Been. Split to.toward

1:55

a cast say keeps it pretty protected

1:57

and are you good spectator. A lot

1:59

of times people who are forced to

2:01

watch drone teams like I was this.

2:04

Ah, The. I do is

2:06

remove in such I sailed the whole i'm

2:09

a nobody expects his desk and that yeah

2:11

he's definitely tough and when you get an

2:13

incentive to be games is she just you

2:15

want to be out there and said about

2:18

helpless in the stands yeah I'm sure at

2:20

on it I'm it is quite to test

2:22

for on and and I guess this time

2:24

last year we would have been terrified but

2:27

this time this year this real green shoots

2:29

from an island perspective that our defenses the

2:31

much stronger or taxes and much better. So

2:33

what's your level of expectation for the weekend.

2:37

Yes, Big Leap. They.

2:40

Probably couldn't have hoped for a better and.

2:43

You. Know lead into. As with that way

2:45

to good players that of the back of you know.

2:49

Getting a boon at the point? I'm really

2:51

close. Like pushing it leads to the bare

2:53

minimum. Specs:

2:56

A t to lose. I just hope that

2:58

they're not rockets. A lot of an. Idea

3:01

of defeat them. Tracy said there was a

3:03

green shoots. The suicide of for the

3:05

what started the for have a craft. And.

3:09

You. Know enjoy like a baby weight lifting.

3:11

That's a lot of their reviews. Last

3:13

weekend at all spoke about the crowd

3:15

and I'll much they enjoyed playing and

3:17

more. Grave and on. The.

3:21

List and nine now growing inside

3:23

going instituted a massively cork in

3:25

London I know as didn't hear

3:28

it still there to do it

3:30

on both. Ah is huge rampant

3:32

for a sword fighting For those

3:34

younger. Along with in

3:36

order the experience the. The.

3:40

Excitement! A team with seen a minority coming

3:42

back and enjoy going in court new the

3:44

story of all of it. really enjoying that

3:46

moment. I enjoyed that woman's know a lot

3:48

of people did to see Clinical Americans for

3:50

the combined asked and they would make along

3:52

with in the oven. Brightly.

3:54

Like and. One.

3:57

For young players, I'm undecided for them.

4:00

What? Represents success for art and

4:02

this against ah. I

4:07

need to look back at her wind and have

4:09

played so far. Lot of the teams have been

4:11

in the birth to he didn't in the bitcoin

4:13

the first half. And then.

4:16

England rabbit open area but the runway, that and second

4:18

half. Is Ireland colds.

4:21

And people to the a smaller

4:23

scoreline and actually get a few

4:25

records in that kind of first.

4:29

Those first few moments after half time

4:31

for not letting them run away. Flown.

4:34

On the rocks, disrupting old Awful which

4:36

isn't easy to do. See. On

4:38

their see to the fall eighty minutes and will.

4:41

You. Don't get on the for sheath, get a

4:43

couple of trying. Ah, that.

4:46

I'd. Be happy with that and I get something

4:48

else. I went out into the effort freshly out

4:50

about your compared to last year. How great is

4:53

it that were just able were just talk and

4:55

a rugby know. This. Is what we wanted

4:57

just to talk about the rugby and and not

4:59

be referring to all these things off pitch like

5:01

this and friends. We

5:04

couldn't and you know looking at where we come

5:06

from wouldn't about for better. Like credit for going

5:08

it's to the them Yeah. Alone

5:11

on that I'd I don't know and

5:13

I'm of them since know from an

5:15

outside perspective where you where the fuck.

5:17

That's as there was. Significant.

5:19

Chaos in the background in our should be over the

5:21

last couple years with some that registered with you in

5:23

your teammates. Yeah I get

5:26

definitely was an Aussie. did you

5:28

see or their their reports in

5:30

the media and as number of

5:32

our says that playing either entire

5:35

league and in and permission to

5:37

scare his death he something that

5:39

we were aware of. Adams I,

5:41

and. My roommate on

5:43

Eglin Camps and has been, Claudia,

5:46

might don't notice her other horses

5:48

as clean as aches and was

5:50

fairly. A. Space as

5:53

I understood what was going

5:55

on there. and and the

5:57

i think it's of sleep.

6:00

Medicare to the players and

6:03

how they've as was. Gone.

6:05

Through that's and and come out the other

6:08

side this year with a bit and some

6:10

pretty strong performances. And and. He

6:12

accepts as a really good science and future

6:14

because at the one of the things that

6:17

m International sport needs is a nice rivalries

6:19

and it needs teams to have some sense

6:21

of jeopardy. In. Advance of games to

6:23

get the crime coming to the if you're going to

6:25

beat everybody as soon as you know. Week in week

6:28

out the crowd of com for a while but eventually.

6:30

And. They need to see you guys

6:32

put the ten of your color. And as

6:34

a relatively new sports. Professional. Rugby

6:37

itself needs near ivory, so it's really

6:39

important as countries like Islands. And

6:41

do actually get organized happily? Yes,

6:45

absolutely I think. And that's a space

6:47

that the beaches for at an international

6:49

level. As as you want a driver

6:51

he says close games where you actually

6:54

punk Cool cool. Either way, am I

6:56

think there's death see signs a the

6:58

last fifty years With the professionalism. And

7:00

the investment in the women's game that? that's. Definitely

7:02

coming and I think this weekend's as

7:05

is gonna be a great place to

7:07

space seats and just how far islanders

7:09

as com on the back of a

7:12

big win against Wales and that on

7:14

a close last Westlake and and he

7:16

as face as is always at the

7:19

moment and as everyone still for constructing

7:21

them which is is great for us

7:23

sam that got another forty four thousand

7:26

and six and hopes if you more

7:28

pure on the day and and yes

7:30

as it is great for Mr Fitness.

7:33

As a rail I suppose. testament to

7:35

the wet behind the scenes to get

7:37

people through the door. And and really

7:39

great again. As ever, a

7:41

lot of Six Nations conversations tend to be

7:43

had through the prism of the World Cup.

7:45

I think from Mars for sentiments are qualifying

7:48

for them are cops From your perspective I

7:50

presume the talk of started scratching up about

7:52

winning the world called probably you're going to

7:54

be to host nation. Disappointing.

7:56

Results in the final last time hours. But then as

7:59

I mentioned. The nation aspect of us.

8:01

As. Well as what's the general emotion.

8:03

Many have those conversations and you think

8:05

about next year. I

8:08

think stimulates excitement and I think

8:10

it's obsolete as there's been a

8:12

massive dose for a while even

8:14

pre law will cost it's been

8:17

and still been in the background

8:19

that the next one is is

8:21

the home want and I think

8:23

the as sep that there isn't

8:25

a great to see London said

8:27

that when an oil cup on

8:29

home so says that the something

8:32

that were with pairing fool and

8:34

it's a swath of see taken

8:36

a tournament as it. Comes to

8:38

ultimately in the back our minds.

8:40

that's that's the big target. And

8:43

and yeah I think these these

8:45

that see torrents of Sierra a

8:47

great preparation for that and hopefully

8:49

go in and. Maybe

8:52

go on stage fed them We have done the last few.

8:55

Business. Processes are trying to find a

8:57

cop, a new parents increase that in the squad

8:59

or is it very much actually. Fine.

9:01

Tuning at this stage or be were right

9:03

eighteen months out from the tournament's. the

9:06

as nice is is. Probably

9:09

more of the for mass I think

9:11

this is of say now second tournament

9:13

with a new coaching team as well

9:15

and and it as a so many

9:17

players come in three that has been

9:19

been in the mix so far the

9:21

six nations that's as she has had

9:24

the opportunity to see if we wait

9:26

a little bit longer and spare. Yeah

9:28

I think definitely try to get to

9:30

get more deaths and ultimately to move

9:32

place. he has an end in each

9:34

position, the to bed or a secret.

9:37

And the more competition. There is as well,

9:40

which is ultimately how we get better

9:42

and terms of the style of play

9:44

of the international side. How doesn't marry

9:47

up with the top teams in the

9:49

premiership at the moment Is there is

9:51

an easy for am. The. Squad

9:53

to adapt to the demands that an

9:56

international team is incessant Him from a

9:58

trend setting. Yeah

10:00

I'd say previous. Quite different.

10:04

It something off advised minute Design

10:07

team says a space get new

10:09

ideas and and new structures of

10:11

how we gonna play and I

10:14

think yes it's it's We were

10:16

having meetings every week from January

10:18

and orders Guy had drowned. Do

10:21

this with a new systems and

10:23

stuff. Son and. He. Asks I

10:26

think it's a probably is quite different

10:28

and the it's exciting thing because it's

10:30

it's new and and have fled of

10:32

it more exciting to watch them a

10:34

hit. maybe we have been previously time

10:37

throw the ball around little bit more

10:39

and and share that border ambition rather

10:41

than relying quite as much an awful

10:43

and say and yes it's it's it's

10:45

big it's be involved with and hope

10:47

they'll just keep evolving tools. Woke up

10:50

next year and is is that a

10:52

function of. Learning. From the

10:54

parson and side in that if you are

10:56

going to be more competitive when it comes

10:58

in. And business

11:00

And the tournament's They actually need to

11:02

stress the senses. Longer and more

11:04

often ends at keep the bottom play more

11:07

and be more face play than. Am

11:09

than relying on the strength. And

11:12

yeah I think say I think

11:14

ultimately and the more the more

11:16

of says you have more updates

11:18

we're gonna be and I think

11:20

of sleep at the last couple

11:23

of cups haven't gone away so

11:25

it's if you've gotta try something

11:27

different. and and yeah I think

11:29

that the more upstate we can

11:31

be in terms of sweaty a

11:34

good at he drives net you

11:36

play out from Dps a still

11:38

go obstacles to can gamers his

11:40

restaurant about six and. He as

11:42

he ultimately that can any personal and

11:44

a better place could afford a classy.

11:46

One last question, I'm a test for

11:49

them. We move on. Does healthy and

11:51

Olympics years while you're an Olympian as

11:53

the benefits of them. Playing.

11:55

A seven game and fifteen game And the cross

11:58

over it? it's been that of a bone. Intention

12:00

aren't enough money and perspective? What was

12:02

that experience like An and how do

12:04

you think For example, that M. You.

12:07

Got the best out of having that experience

12:09

between the seven and fifteen that it had

12:11

been able to influence both. Yes,

12:15

I as a kid has

12:17

been positive. Actually, it's not.

12:19

And. Not something that.

12:23

A huge number in the in the Scotus

12:25

done. And but I think it's

12:27

and serves to the skill sets and

12:29

and will you get from playing seven.

12:32

Stay here and Olympic games. Wax is

12:34

the biggest and course in a sporting

12:36

event. marriage and and a you're not

12:39

going to get many chances to play

12:41

like that. suits and ain't going from

12:43

Zoc than into a World Cup environment,

12:46

their own needs and such a good

12:48

stats in terms of being able to

12:50

handle that pressure and and a space

12:53

thriving in S and an unhappy Nine

12:55

experience. With prior to awoke up

12:57

and and me I think

12:59

that there's oh so much

13:01

more Seven can bring from

13:04

our from at players skillset

13:06

Iraqi forces you to the

13:08

Swiss fine tuned it is

13:10

skills and if he passed

13:12

in a lot of stuff

13:14

and spits is only only

13:16

gonna help and been a

13:18

crossover back. On

13:20

our on thus style of play, Peace, It's

13:22

very interesting to look at how. Are.

13:25

Nothing of the moments and you'd expect the maybe

13:27

they're process solder is gonna be quite similar to

13:29

how they approach the France game and week one

13:31

is it does feel of putin may be disarmed

13:34

but a credit because it's almost got. To.

13:36

Have have two thousand scientists are no winners,

13:39

Three teams that can be some they expect

13:41

to be in, and two teams who they'd

13:43

be significant underdogs against. Oh what? What's your

13:45

take on of atoms? Our that's approach. These

13:47

different games against the constraints. opposition's. He

13:51

yeah I don't think that suits you know

13:53

you need to this Irish Themes If you

13:55

look at any you know you look as

13:57

cedar your opposition that coming up a new

13:59

look as. The what are their strength and

14:01

who we have to avoid and who are

14:03

we going to attack, etc. I'm in terms

14:06

of like and you also have to make

14:08

sure that you're not focusing so much on

14:10

the opposition. That you forget your

14:12

own strength. It. Is a difficult because if

14:14

you look at England but treat you know

14:16

be look at our strength of garlic. One

14:18

of our be strengthened themes the booth of

14:20

Down O'brien who has been winning territory. You.

14:23

Know everywhere for Ireland and that's been

14:25

to use The Boss. You have

14:27

to be very sure of at maybe taking a

14:30

little us out of the ball because if your

14:32

you know giving the ball to the back three

14:34

at England's I'm on the damage they can do.

14:36

You could land yourself and lot of trouble. It.

14:39

Like any is like any. Team.

14:42

Preparing for an.

14:45

Any opposition you look at what they

14:47

have. water at their strength. Where.

14:49

We attack while we avoid, and then

14:51

you go back to focusing on yourself

14:54

more than anything as so. Will

14:57

your I see that That kind of mentality of.

15:00

Two. Games that you panic and who? Does

15:02

not count. When would you know? It's

15:04

less likely that you can say is W

15:07

and Industry where you're like okay, we can

15:09

win This. What

15:11

don't you just see? Noi into one the

15:13

june probably in or less likely to win.

15:16

You. Know to courses the wind, why don't you

15:18

just keep solidifying your. Strength

15:21

so that they're stronger for when you come

15:23

up Again said that the team but you

15:25

are a whole thing together as a result

15:27

against. When. It

15:29

comes to say to him game this weekend

15:31

obviously her their desks aiming at home pretty

15:34

by themselves you outlined the battery that are

15:36

exceptional for England as well. So how does

15:38

that factor into how art and are going

15:40

to approach a certain time for for territory

15:43

on Saturday. Probably

15:46

just really making sure you

15:48

can find touch and being

15:50

very aware of covering your

15:52

backfield. It's kind of one

15:54

of those games where. You're.

15:57

Going any like okay of got no choice there.

15:59

I cannot get high. I cannot spend more

16:01

than a couple a second underground. I'm on

16:03

my feet all the time for the last

16:05

that that's my space at my responsibility. I

16:07

mean, Twickenham I'm playing for and will come

16:10

off the back of a winch. It's more

16:12

important now than ever that I do my

16:14

job really well and. Covering.

16:16

The faith. Maybe just that. You know it's

16:18

not like down a bright have been missing

16:20

touch too often but you're really making sure

16:22

of us giving ourselves as a platform to

16:24

attack from. And. That

16:26

that's. Without over complicating things

16:29

That sir as simple as you can make

16:31

us. At. L

16:33

Knight can eat Thompson and by copying and than

16:35

and what kind of a character he is. Yeah.

16:39

I think as it is going to be

16:41

interesting come out against him on the other

16:43

side. this weekend's. Have say cheese is

16:45

incredibly detailed is what he does,

16:48

and I think you can see

16:50

that Ten dividends in terms. As

16:52

a space that eating you can

16:54

just see that there were on

16:56

the same page and sky news

16:59

you can really see as for

17:01

what they're trying to do and

17:03

what's what the structures are how

17:05

that how their china attacks and

17:07

and yeah you can really see

17:09

as for his influence over that

17:12

and by think yeah he's he's

17:14

is full of energy have any

17:16

have a really give that to

17:18

a team and and yeah thanks

17:20

things a space so. Far as being

17:22

been very good for them which it is

17:25

beating see what is he trying to what

17:27

what the when? If he were to think

17:29

back at the success of have you guys

17:31

what would you say would be the hallmark

17:33

of the scorpion attack. And

17:40

things. Based. In direct

17:42

was probably a big want to teach

17:44

in in those white channels nothing each

17:47

scene that with and. Me I see for

17:49

waist down the wing. Or

17:51

things. Yes, As

17:53

just and not getting bored as the

17:56

in the simple things because if you

17:58

keep the booze he goes. Beijing

18:00

defenses are gonna crack and status

18:02

as space fit the beach and

18:04

simplest see of the games and

18:06

I think that best of see

18:09

something that he ah he says

18:11

isa have a home for us.

18:15

Out A was incredibly successful with their wedding

18:17

and on a seen so far the to

18:19

start with island has been graced am I

18:21

am by then up isn't fair enough but

18:23

coming up predictions from me both on us.

18:27

Soil me. A.

18:31

Smaller than thirty point marriage

18:33

and when for England. Which

18:35

is progress at the moment from an unexpected

18:37

Friday at at or case am and I

18:39

guess it will be happy enough with us

18:42

or with up. Yeah, who needs to be

18:44

better. Know I

18:46

think at the a Nasa thinks and

18:48

if lifts her the last captors results

18:51

the Island of Harden and that duffy

18:53

not It can be taken lightly. this

18:55

weekend's i think yeah of see where

18:57

we're going to the five points and.

19:01

Yes, If we didn't see if we can

19:03

get around to says point margin, I think

19:05

that would be at a decent result letting

19:07

us at the run of games so far.

19:09

And yeah, I think. He.

19:11

Has has it definitely and maybe cancer ties

19:14

in there for Ireland as well. just with

19:16

how they'd be the tough thing as think

19:18

they can be very impressive I'll hear I

19:20

say I came to mind is like one.

19:23

You might have I ask. I tried to

19:25

be normal. he loves argument for him and

19:27

plenty for supper. twenty? Would you mind my

19:29

asking that question about it? I'm cost and

19:31

one is brought to be seen just before

19:33

we'd go for it. Want a scene and

19:35

what? I really like. A. He

19:38

no answer the game when the threads and

19:40

it isn't just a thought either like the

19:42

traveling with third extras in the squad room

19:45

for Ireland to all it's travel with the

19:47

squad and even not selected usually you're not

19:49

around for like he extended squad seems to

19:52

be very much embrace in this new environments

19:54

which I'm loving seeing. After the

19:56

game instead of just doing you know your

19:58

shudder runs to getting your. Conditioning. They've

20:00

been playing games. I love

20:02

it. I think it's brilliant impasse. That

20:05

did that come from? skills? Are

20:07

adding say and for help from my

20:09

experience is their noses. While it was

20:11

always can game based on a won't

20:14

be ones orcs or something like that

20:16

some teacher says get a little bit

20:18

more rugby and you and ultimately know

20:20

one like when and shuttles sites and

20:22

yeah I would said us that's his

20:24

influence and a female media to do

20:26

after a games was. A

20:28

small change put can can really affect

20:31

like the feeling of the squad. I

20:33

think it's brilliant and I've been loving

20:35

loving watching the. Great.

20:38

Detail on attacks, a million okay person

20:40

hung around, and six million shares of

20:42

Sankey. Possible. Arlen

20:46

Specter said.