In the third episode of PHD and eatbigfish’s podcast series Overthrow II: Challenger strategies for a new era, Ernesto Schmitt, Co-founder of VC fund The Craftory, joins Adam Morgan, Co-founder of eatbigfish, and Rohan Tambyrajah, Chief Strategy Officer at PHD Global Business, to discuss the role of cause for both challenger brands and venture capitalists, how challengers effect change at scale and what lies ahead for investment in this evolving landscape.