Welcome back to Part 2 of our chat! In this episode, Charis talks about the history of the Tunis breed, her views on shepherding and the future of farming. Best strap yourself to the tractor - we get real.

WARNING: VARIABLE AUDIO Some of this was recorded outside, because 7 hours is too long to not need to move around. Plus, a continuation of the quirks from last year. What does this mean for you? Well, I've done my best but I suggest listening on your laptop, tablet, or in the car, NOT directly in your earballs.

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