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Actually, it's the lead play on our

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offense. Yes,

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our wide

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end, our tight end to open up somewhere between

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six feet and nine feet. The

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linebacker. He's got

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the tackle to take the defensive end if he's over

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him. If he's not, to drive down

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on the first man who is inside. If

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the wide end has the linebacker take him out, he

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cuts inside. If the wide end has the

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linebacker in, he comes all the way around.

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If you look at this play, we're trying to get a

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seal here and a seal here. And

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we've got a run this play in the alley.

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What's up,

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guys? Welcome to Packers Total

1:09

Access. My name is Clayton. You

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alongside Tim. Live in Green

1:24

Bay, we've got Emilio in Tennessee, Mr.

1:27

Milwaukee Tools himself. And

1:29

we've got Jacob LaBeard on the Wisconsin-Minnesota

1:31

border. Got the cleanest

1:33

beard this side of the Mississippi or that side of

1:35

the Mississippi. I can't remember. Wisconsin's on the other side

1:37

of the Mississippi, right, Tim? That's correct.

1:40

According to who? Well,

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that's a good question. Yeah, you're

1:45

either east or west. We're

1:47

on the same side of the Mississippi. All right,

1:49

cool. There you go. We've got a couple

1:51

of crooks here. I don't know about Mississippi, but we've got a

1:53

couple of crooks. Let's do this. Since

1:56

we're off to a strong start here, let's just go ahead and not

1:58

shift out. Let's go around. the

2:00

horn real quick before we dive into the

2:02

stuff we're going to talk about. I

2:05

want to get every just kind of test everyone's pulse

2:07

and if you ain't got nothing it's totally cool but

2:09

how are we feeling we're what two days away

2:11

from the draft right two days out

2:14

how are we feeling about the draft I'll start

2:16

with you Tim first thing that

2:18

comes to mind other than rent in

2:21

a straight stroller. The

2:23

first thing that comes to mind is get ready for goody

2:25

to prove us all wrong. I

2:28

don't care what what you think or

2:30

what your feelings are my

2:32

money's on he's going to do something that none

2:35

of us have have charted or

2:38

have any perspective on. I still

2:40

think there's a chance we trade back depending

2:43

on how the first 10 to 12

2:46

picks 15 picks go in the draft we

2:48

could trade up I don't know. I do

2:51

think that if we draft at 25 it

2:53

will be probably somebody

2:55

on the O-line or somebody on

2:57

the D-line is that's my gut

2:59

but um you know I'm

3:02

excited man it's draft week it's it's here

3:04

two more sleeps as they say and

3:06

it's draft day and I'm

3:09

just looking forward to finding out like we've

3:12

we've waited we've done so many mocks we've

3:15

been up and down so many times I just can't

3:17

wait till we have those uh those players

3:19

and we know who's who's

3:22

a new packer you know it's going to be an exciting week

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absolutely milio we'll go with you now man just want

3:27

to kind of get your take we're getting a little

3:29

bit of feedback I went through and muted everybody it

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sounds like it's coming from you milio go

3:36

ahead and talk see if it sounds all right and tell me

3:38

what you're thinking about the draft here we'll cut you off roosely

3:41

if it is you might as well just cut me off now

3:43

then because I don't know what I should say because I

3:45

just can't wait man I'm Thursday

3:48

needs to come but that Friday is going

3:50

to be it's going to be wild uh I

3:53

you know maybe Gooty trades out of the first and we

3:55

just tear up the next two days maybe

3:57

you know if grand bar if Dallas takes

3:59

Thanks, Grand Barton and, you know, late

4:02

who's gone doesn't like

4:04

the corner, whatever, but it's,

4:06

it's too close to being here where it's like

4:08

I just needed to kind of fast forward I

4:10

kind of need to get through tomorrow really quickly

4:12

and then Thursday. Just

4:15

hammer it out because it's that same

4:17

time. Yeah, I know it's,

4:19

it's exciting and all the information come down

4:21

the pot. It is you that's given

4:23

a little bit of static Emilio so if you want to try

4:25

to kill the camera see if you can fix it real quick.

4:28

And yeah, we'll, we'll get Emilio back on here

4:30

in a minute. But Jacob, what do you think

4:32

man? How you feeling? I know there's all

4:35

the talking heads are making their predictions

4:37

right now. Every, I had a couple

4:39

people approached me on Twitter and they were asking me who are

4:41

we gonna, who do you think we're going to take? I'm not

4:43

even going to try to guess. I'm not going to sit here

4:46

and pretend like I think I know what's going on. But

4:49

you know, we've got some of the good

4:51

fits. Obviously I seen Rob Demofsky if I

4:54

if I understood correctly, they did their ESPN

4:56

mock draft where all the insiders for each

4:58

team makes their pick. And I think

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Rob Demofsky said, Graham Barton,

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I believe I remember correctly. But

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we think Jacob, how you feel 48 hours out, man? Yeah,

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awesome in a dumpster. No,

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I, I'm weirdly calm. And

5:16

it's like, we've talked about how

5:19

we've never really been or it personally,

5:21

I've never been this prepared for a

5:23

draft before. Like I've, I've actually

5:25

done my due diligence, man, if I spent half

5:27

as much of this effort into like my homework

5:29

when I was going to school, I'd be a

5:31

4.0 student, bro, I'd be I'd

5:35

be getting up on them scholarships. But

5:38

to be honest, it's, do

5:40

you rant says it's the same. It's like two days until

5:42

Christmas, man. This is I am so

5:44

excited. I

5:47

don't know how to express it into words. I

5:50

was why y'all make it fun. I bought

5:52

a bunch of really fly t shirts from

5:54

the Walmart because I thought y'all would like

5:56

them. Now I'm just getting a lot of heat. All

5:59

right, so what it is. I don't know what to

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tell you dude. This is interesting one coach

6:03

Lynn. I personally

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love Xavier Laguette Eric Southern with

6:08

peace in the chat. I know that's gonna it's

6:11

gonna bite me in the butt this guy is

6:13

a unbelievably talented vibe

6:15

receiver and He's from

6:17

a way down there and I

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think he's Louisiana like real deep

6:21

Louisiana the guy has That

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is so amazing that is so

6:27

beautiful that like I

6:29

just want him to be a Green Bay Packer because

6:31

I Just I

6:33

think they like people think that though Wisconsin's

6:35

kind of like up there Northern tundra like

6:37

for most of the year for like three

6:40

fourths of the year We are the deep

6:42

South Hillbillies like we are just a bunch

6:44

of that's all we do man

6:46

It's it's just all we do so I

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I would love Xavier. I don't know what what

6:51

round we'd get him in It's a it's probably

6:53

one of those that I wouldn't be okay

6:56

with unless he fell to like the fourth

6:58

fifth probably for sure but Yeah,

7:02

it's gonna be interesting. I had a tweet I was gonna

7:04

share we'll do that here in a little bit Let me

7:06

go ahead and drop that down since we're kind of kicking

7:08

off with Xavier Laguette what they're talking about obviously is Easton

7:12

Butler tweeted out the Packers hosted South

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Carolina wide receiver Xavier Laguette on a

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top 30 visit per Justin M underscore

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NFL so obviously Xavier Laguette like Jacob

7:21

said got the best accent in the

7:23

draft. There's no two ways about that

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when you start talking about okay, what what

7:29

was What was

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he ranked it really depends on who you

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listen to right like on

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my board. I am really I'm

7:39

kind of low on on Laguette be honest with

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you I'm gonna

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try to get it updated here and go

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ahead and add in the fact that it was a Top

7:48

30 visit and a senior bowl participant. So

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he's one of those guys for sure He

7:53

does not meet the maximum threshold, but when

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you look at him on my vertical board

7:58

I've got like Xavier Laguette get in

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the 166 spot. So

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significantly lower. Now, what brings him

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down, and I double check

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this, his PFF grade in 2022, he was

8:09

the 911th ranked wide receiver, according

8:15

to PFF grade in 2022. If you

8:18

remove the 2022 grade, he was the 37th highest grade of

8:22

receiver last year. He was 41st

8:24

on the consensus big board at the time. He

8:26

was 83rd on the 33rd team, and

8:29

he came in 49 spot on

8:31

Daniel Jeremiah's top 50. So

8:33

if you were to remove that,

8:35

his number is going to be

8:38

significantly better. Honestly,

8:40

if I looked at it in

8:43

that regard there, what would it

8:45

be? Let's see where it would place him. If we

8:47

went with that average there, you're

8:49

probably looking at somewhere in the 40

8:51

range. So

8:53

if his point total was 40, without the 2022 grade,

8:58

that would put him about the 24 spot

9:01

on my board. That's how big

9:03

of a difference it is. So just

9:06

something to take into

9:08

consideration. Really, what

9:10

it comes down to is how much weight do you

9:12

put in the PFF grades? And is

9:16

it important to have a couple of years

9:18

of good grades as opposed to just one?

9:21

That's really what it comes down to. Let's share the

9:23

screen here. And let's go to the, would

9:25

you guys rather see the consensus big board, or

9:27

would you rather see the PFF board on him?

9:33

I mean, both. Let's go both. Let's start with

9:35

PFF. Yeah, let's do PFF first.

9:37

All right, so here he is on the

9:40

PFF board. So obviously, Xavier Legette

9:42

here. Let's see if we can get him

9:44

a little closer. There's the guy. Yeah,

9:47

so out of South Carolina, 23 years old, 6 foot 3,

9:49

227 is

9:51

the measurables they had on them. I don't know if that's

9:53

accurate or not. We can kind of cross check it with

9:56

some other sites in a minute. You guys see in 2021,

9:58

the PFF grade? on

10:00

239 snaps was only a 58.7. In

10:04

2022, 261 snaps for a 56.5. And

10:10

then in 2023, 636 snaps for a grade of 82.5, making

10:15

him the 35th highest graded wide receiver.

10:18

He's a sophomore, evidently, you know, that stuff gets

10:20

a little wonky with the COVID stuff. It

10:23

says, Laguette does not have

10:25

too much experience as the

10:27

focal point of a passing attack, but 2023

10:29

showed he is capable of that. He is

10:32

not as polished a route runner slash release

10:34

artist as he needs to

10:36

be to achieve his potential at the

10:38

NFL level, but teams take a chance

10:40

on players of his

10:42

build. So, let's go around the horn

10:44

with it here. How do we feel about it? Jake

10:46

says you got him at 6'1", if I'm reading that

10:49

correctly. So, obviously, the 6'3 is incredible. How

10:52

crazy is that, that, like, with PFF, PFF, we

10:54

all agree, it's like maybe hands

10:56

down one of the best sites,

10:59

whatever you want to call it, companies,

11:01

organizations that actually have these guys, like,

11:03

graded, but they can't get the height

11:06

and the weight right. Like, it's

11:08

such a weird thing because you can go to, like, me and

11:11

Emilio have talked about how we like NFL draft

11:13

buzz. I love that site. And

11:15

they seem to do a better job than

11:17

PFF, and it's like, why, how? Like,

11:20

how easy thing, yeah. They

11:22

should be such an easy thing, but, yeah, 6'1", 221 for the

11:24

get, and like

11:26

we've talked about, I love that. His

11:29

personality seems like he's gonna fit

11:31

in, like, a puzzle piece. Like,

11:33

it's just perfect. And other

11:35

than that, though, I'll be honest, like, you know,

11:38

I don't know where he would fit, and

11:40

to be honest, when Gold says it good here, he goes,

11:42

is he better than we already have at wide receiver? I

11:45

don't know. And since I

11:47

don't know, I would say that probably I'd err on

11:49

the side of, like, nah,

11:51

we probably shouldn't. And we

11:53

have so many other, like, glaring

11:55

needs, in my opinion, safety cornerback,

11:58

interior offensive line tackle. linebacker.

12:02

I'd love to have a guy that has that much talent

12:04

and if he falls to us then cool but I

12:07

just I think we need other things before

12:09

that. Yeah go

12:12

ahead Tim what do you what do you think?

12:15

Yeah I'm with with you I mean I

12:17

think a lot of Packer fans feel the

12:19

same way. We're not opposed

12:21

to snagging a receiver

12:24

in the draft but I think all of us

12:26

would prefer it be you know

12:28

six or seventh round after we take care

12:30

of a little bit more positional

12:32

needs but we do have to

12:35

remember that you know it's not always about necessarily

12:37

you know positional need it's about

12:40

best available sometimes too and sometimes

12:42

the draft kind of forces you to play your hand

12:44

and you kind of got to take somebody on the

12:46

board we've talked about that before but as

12:49

far as Xavier Laguette the

12:51

thing that that stuck out to me

12:53

a little bit He's

12:56

really good at the catch point it's got good

12:58

hands but he does struggle

13:00

with routes he's kind of limited with routes

13:03

his route running ability and struggles to get

13:05

separation at time I've seen more

13:07

than a few you know

13:09

write-ups on his separation so that's something

13:12

to keep an eye on obviously you

13:14

know he's not gonna alarm anybody

13:16

and be a you know a top top 10

13:18

pick or anything so that's to be expected but

13:20

um it is something to kind of keep an

13:23

eye on 6 1 2 21 I believe

13:27

is his measurables

13:30

he's an athletic freak that's good but

13:33

you know we got to be aware of some of the negatives

13:35

too just to just to be honest

13:37

and keep it balanced so I don't know if

13:40

he'd be like a massive improvement to our wide

13:42

receiver room but that's the whole point

13:44

we don't know for all we know he could be

13:46

you know so looks like a guy

13:48

that good he would like to draft so when you look

13:50

at this RAS you know I'm just

13:52

saying this guy could catch all the catfish

13:54

out of Wisconsin rivers I know that for

13:56

a fact is

13:58

he's just he's He's a

14:00

cool we need him to catch footballs Jacob So

14:06

the RAS card this is from the website I just

14:08

now clicked on it a 9-9-0

14:12

on the RAS hand size 9 High

14:15

6 foot 1 even is what it's

14:17

saying That's a composite

14:19

score or a great. Yeah composite size

14:21

grade there As far as height

14:23

goes a six point three eight the weight 221 gives them a 952

14:26

bench press 24 reps That's

14:29

pretty impressive for a 9 9 1

14:31

grade is vertical jump 40 inches for

14:33

a 9 6 1 broad jump Is

14:37

10 0 6 for a

14:39

grade of eight point seven to 40 yard dash? four

14:43

three nine speed

14:46

for a grade of 9 5 3 20

14:49

yard split of 2.6 1 which is a grade of 7.2 7

14:51

and the 10 yard split of 1.5 7 For

14:56

a grade of 7.3 4 which tells you It

15:00

takes them a little longer to get up to

15:02

speed right? I mean, that's not horrible 10 yard

15:04

and 20 yard split, but he's definitely got

15:06

that top-end speed, right? in

15:09

the chat said Coach

15:11

Leonard the chat said he's a war daddy. I

15:14

love that's our new saying here on PTA for sure

15:16

We're gonna steal that from coastal floor Emilio,

15:19

what do you got on a man? I know you're overdoing some

15:21

digging book Yeah, I was

15:23

poking around on draft buzz They say

15:25

he's a contested catch specialist driving on

15:27

physicality and strong hands That

15:30

he excels on vertical routes of combination and

15:32

size of lettuces and body control so that

15:34

you know, he kind of needs to work

15:36

on You know, he

15:38

is comfortable in traffic, but has

15:40

a little bit of lack of effort But everything

15:42

else besides that man that the dude

15:44

wants to play football They

15:47

have them overall rank of 52 position

15:49

rank 13 that just shows how

15:51

many like the dude has top

15:54

top-end speed top-end vert and

15:57

he's 13th ranked in this draft,

15:59

which is crazy. There's

16:01

just so many good receivers here. And like we

16:03

said, if it happens that he falls to us,

16:06

whatever. But 30 different

16:08

or 20 different points versus a

16:10

mock draft there can be an

16:13

at 32. Definitely. And since this big board has

16:15

him in the 30, I'm sorry, not 32. They've

16:18

got him in the 35 spot. He peaked

16:20

at number two. So if we

16:22

were to click on him, let's kind of see

16:25

when he peaked. He peaked back in December.

16:29

So going into December, whatever

16:31

happened, I don't know. You're on

16:33

Xavier worthy. I'm sorry. I should get

16:35

the wrong one. Xavier LeGai.

16:37

Here we go. So he's in the 44 spot.

16:40

Thank you, Jacob. He peaked at 34.

16:42

Okay. So he's currently in

16:45

the 44 spot peaked at 34. Is

16:47

that right? Yeah. He's currently 44th.

16:49

So when he peaked was

16:51

back in January, right

16:54

here in this range, probably. Yeah.

16:57

So it says he peaked at 34 showing on January

16:59

23rd, being the highest on the chart in the 35

17:02

spot. You get into

17:04

March for whatever reason, March 23rd, he

17:06

dropped significantly. He went down from 57

17:09

to 94th and then slowly climb back up.

17:12

Obviously now he's back in the 44 spot.

17:15

So when you look at

17:17

where he was mocked at

17:19

to drop that off there, he

17:21

was mocked 34 to

17:25

the new England Patriots. So that was a 7%

17:29

mock draft popularity. So you're probably

17:31

looking at early, early

17:33

to just second round, right? Is what

17:35

it's looking like for the guests. So

17:38

and again, I think what it comes down

17:41

to, you got that top end speed. We showed you the

17:43

10 yard to 20 yard split wasn't the strength of the

17:45

40 yard dash for him. However, it

17:47

was still enough to, uh, to

17:50

get that motor going and he's got some top

17:52

end speed. It's just, I don't

17:54

know, man, there's, there's still a few questions. I guess

17:56

the question is, are we willing to take him with

17:58

a second round pick? I know. I know my answer is

18:00

no. So, yeah.

18:03

He'd have to fall to the fourth or fifth. And I

18:05

think he could. I really do think

18:07

that because people just... This

18:09

is such... Oh, sorry,

18:12

Jacob. Clayton, you said 30-13 had him at

18:14

83? Um,

18:16

let me see here on my vertical. He's at 91

18:19

now, so he must have dropped... Well...

18:23

...on 33rd...according to 30-13. They

18:25

got him 11th overall as

18:27

a wide receiver. 81st

18:30

overall right now. Got

18:33

him. But that may have

18:35

changed recently. It could have. I wish they showed

18:37

a chart, too, just to kind of track that. Yeah. But,

18:40

yeah, I've got him in, like I said, the

18:42

166 spot on my vertical board. Yeah,

18:45

at the time that I took the 30-13 data

18:47

down, he was 83rd at that moment. Now, keep in

18:50

mind, they were still building their board out, but they

18:52

try to key in on some of the more important

18:54

prospects first, which tells you a lot about what they

18:56

think about him. So, yeah. Go

18:58

ahead, Jacob. I cut Jacob off. No,

19:01

no, you're... I was actually just

19:03

going to basically bring up this type of a comic,

19:06

which is dead fish. He says, kind of

19:08

a Watson-type receiver, don't you think? With

19:11

Watson being hurt so much, maybe they want to

19:13

have a backup that think of the pressure Watson

19:15

puts on defense. I kind of

19:18

agree. I kind of disagree. I don't think he's

19:20

the same body type. I think he's much more

19:22

of a solid, just stand-alone ex,

19:24

like one of those Andre Johnson types,

19:26

like one of those, you know, just

19:28

a very physical wide receiver. The

19:31

only other thing that I think about here is like

19:33

what John said. It's like if he's the odd man

19:35

out, or if we draft him, who else is leading

19:38

the Packers organization, guys? We've talked about how

19:40

much we love the wide receiver group here

19:42

in this... Samara

19:44

and Turin? Yeah, that's

19:47

what I was just going to say, Tim. It'd

19:49

probably have to be a guy that I personally

19:51

love him. I love him to death. I really

19:53

do. I believe he was a Nebraska guy, if

19:55

I'm not mistaken. Love

19:58

the guy to death, but just it's... at

20:00

that point now where we maybe do

20:02

have to start thinking about the fact

20:04

and I think it was maybe Joe,

20:06

Coach Lynn, somebody said that we haven't had

20:08

this type of like XL receiver in a minute.

20:10

So, you know, uh, Alan Mizzard was that type

20:12

of guy, but he didn't have that speed, he

20:15

did not have that kind of like, you know, get

20:18

off the ball type stuff. So it's, it's

20:20

intriguing, but I don't see it actually happening.

20:22

It's just fun to think about. Yeah.

20:25

Um, I was trying to pull up where

20:28

Daniel Jeremiah had him real quick. Um,

20:31

we all have smartphones and we all

20:33

know they're pretty amazing, but they also

20:36

can be amazingly distracting, especially when we're

20:38

around other people. So us cellular wants

20:40

us to reset our relationship with our

20:42

phones by putting down our phones for

20:44

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let's see what he has to say about him. Cause again,

21:42

I was shown in the 49 spot that may have been

21:45

the early grade there. And you guys know I lean on

21:47

the early grades and won't change them. Yeah, he's currently sitting

21:49

in the 49 spot. This is what

21:51

Daniel Jeremiah said about him. What

21:53

get a leg. Is thicker

21:55

than a bowl of oatmeal muscle upper

21:57

finger with impressive top speed and toughness.

22:00

He relies on physicality more than

22:02

quickness to power through press coverage.

22:04

He isn't a polished route runner,

22:07

but he can build speed and win 50-50 balls. He

22:11

has reliable hands and he has a nice

22:14

blend of speed and toughness after the catch.

22:16

He plays much faster with the ball in

22:18

his hands. Overall, Legette

22:20

doesn't offer a full complement

22:22

of routes, but he

22:24

can do damage with his select view.

22:28

Tim, you hit the nail on the head.

22:30

It's just an unfinished route runner with someone

22:32

who's just got a ton of physical ability,

22:34

right? Yeah. That's

22:37

really what it comes down to. At 6'1",

22:39

if he was 6'3", he'd feel a lot better

22:41

about it. Like

22:43

I said, maybe his family hacked PFF's website. I

22:45

don't know, but you got to do what you

22:48

got to do. If you ain't cheating, you ain't

22:50

trying. We brought a Dray Miller into camp last

22:52

year. You guys remember that. We

22:54

were looking for receiver bodies

22:57

at camp. He was that type

23:00

of guy. A little limited with the route running,

23:02

but could stretch the field bigger,

23:04

good hands type of guy

23:06

and just didn't find his way onto

23:08

the team. I

23:10

would think if Legette does in fact

23:12

get drafted by the Packers, he's going

23:15

to be competing with the bottom

23:17

depth chart guys for sure. I

23:20

think it's a great point. Madfish in the

23:23

chat said he just needs WIC's school of

23:25

route running. Absolutely.

23:28

If you get a player like that and he is

23:30

willing to put in the time, put in the effort

23:33

and have the coach ability to extend

23:35

that route tree and become a

23:37

great route runner, my goodness man, the sky's the

23:39

freaking limit for someone like that. It sounds like

23:41

he's got a lot of physical talent and ability.

23:44

Obviously, the consensus big board has him right there in

23:46

the same range of 44 that Daniel Jeremiah

23:49

does. That's probably a more realistic

23:51

spot than where I've got him at 166. Again,

23:54

my board isn't about being right. My board

23:57

is about take all the information

23:59

you can. Essentially what you've got

24:01

with my board, especially my horizontal board, the

24:03

vertical board will tell you everything, but the

24:06

horizontal board is basically saying these

24:08

prospects at the top are

24:10

the safest prospects, right? It means they check

24:12

all the boxes. It doesn't mean GMs are

24:15

going to go with that pick. It doesn't

24:17

mean they're going to be the better player.

24:19

It just simply means they have less

24:21

flaws. And you guys know

24:24

my boring personality. That's how I

24:26

approach everything in life is, you know, play it

24:28

safe, prepare for the

24:30

worst, hope for the best type thing. I would

24:32

much rather take a safer prospect than swinging for

24:35

the fences. You know, that's just me personally. Can

24:37

I point something out right here? Like he's

24:39

grouping there, there, the lad in the

24:42

concrete, Xavier, where the Franklin Coleman, Laguette,

24:44

Piersol, Wilson. I don't

24:46

do that is a on. And

24:48

if you go down even more, Malachi Corley

24:51

is supposedly one of the best guys with

24:53

the balls in his hand. Like once he's

24:55

a yak absolute freak. So I

24:57

think this may be one of those years

24:59

where it's like, it's so deep that wide

25:01

receiver. And I've read many articles. I've seen

25:03

many draft experts quote unquote say that they

25:05

think that from here on out, it's just going

25:07

to be wide receiver crazy. Like wide receivers

25:10

are going to be just

25:12

a plethora of undeniable

25:15

talent to the point where it's like, what do

25:17

we like? Why do we take them in the

25:19

first round, the second round? We can find guys

25:21

in my opinion, if you don't mind scrolling up

25:23

right there, like Roman Wilson, Piersol, I've heard

25:25

is one of the best Malik Washington, Malik

25:28

Washington at 99. I've been

25:30

told I've seen him. He's

25:32

maybe the most dynamic player I've ever

25:34

seen with the ball in his hands.

25:36

Like not ever, but like in this

25:38

draft, he's insane. Jermaine Burton, we talked

25:40

about that. Davontez Walker, big body wide

25:42

receiver that is a possession wide receiver.

25:44

He's at 91 on most, you know,

25:46

drafts. He could be in the top

25:49

20 like even. You

25:51

mentioned Malik Washington. He's

25:53

sitting in the 129 spot on my board simply because

25:55

of the 2022 PFF grade as well. In

25:58

2023 was the. third highest graded

26:01

wide receiver. And

26:04

here's what's crazy. An 8 plus

26:06

RES is what I have on file. It may have

26:08

changed, may have shifted a little bit with

26:11

the, you know, exact measurements

26:13

coming in. But also Greg

26:15

Coasell absolutely loves Malik Washington.

26:17

So that's in my notes

26:19

here for sure. See,

26:21

I think we had a note here too. Yeah,

26:24

what Greg Coasell said was he

26:26

just knows how to get open.

26:28

What he said. Little guy. Five

26:31

nine, right? Five nine, five ten. No,

26:33

no, he's not. Yeah. Let's

26:37

see. Let's see if we can pull it up real quick. Yeesh. We

26:44

can't get the hot. Five eight. No.

26:48

That's the one. Four four seven. That's

26:50

the one that Greg Coasell said

26:53

you're not going to use him on the boundary. I

26:55

remember him saying that. He's going to be kind of

26:57

that slot guy, these jet suite type guy. He's just,

26:59

he's a dude that can create separation. You know what

27:01

it sounds like? And I know he's bigger

27:04

than five eight. The way

27:06

he's describing him, Randall, a

27:08

little, little bit of Randall Cobb, a little bit of Jayden Reed,

27:11

to be honest with you. Now the

27:13

difference of Jayden Reed was he could play Z.

27:15

He played the hell out of Z in

27:17

college, especially two years, you know, the year

27:19

before he came out in the trap. But

27:22

yeah, I can't believe we're talking about

27:24

wide receivers two days before. If we've

27:26

been on this for like a minute

27:28

now, it's legit. It's legit. It's important.

27:30

But like what you were saying, Jacob,

27:32

because this is what shapes the draft, you

27:35

know, people, I don't want to hear quarterbacks. I don't want

27:37

to hear wide receivers. I get you. I don't either. But

27:40

when you're heavy in a draft at those specific

27:42

positions, that's what's going to turn them. What falls

27:44

in the Packers lap too. So when you were

27:46

talking about these receivers, what I want you guys to key

27:48

in on here, we're down here in

27:51

the hunters, right? Let's just, let's pick up right

27:53

here. Look at how many peaks look at the

27:55

peak right here. Look at Jacob Cowell. He

28:00

peaked at 21. Brendan

28:02

Rice peaked at 63. Johnny

28:04

Wilson peaked at 67. Malik

28:07

Washington peaked at 61. Jermaine

28:09

Burton peaked at 42. Devontes

28:11

Walker peaked at 35. Javen

28:14

Baker, 84. Jaylen

28:17

McMillan, 64. You see

28:19

what I'm saying? These guys are outside of the top

28:21

50 now, but at some point, they

28:23

were well within the top 50 in most cases,

28:25

just wild. So, Keon Coleman at one

28:27

point was considered the best prospect in the draft

28:29

court in the consensus big four. He's

28:32

sitting in the 40 spot now. So, people

28:34

are gonna be able to get a really, really

28:36

good wide receivers in the second round. There's two

28:39

things you can say to that, and we talk

28:41

about it all the time, Tim. Like, if you

28:43

get a receiver, if you get a

28:45

heavy receiver class, other than

28:48

the guys that are considered like those blue chippers,

28:50

those day one starter

28:52

type players, teams are looking

28:54

at this going, you know what? We

28:57

can address receiver in the next round. And

28:59

now what happens is those receivers start to fall. There

29:02

may be a situation where

29:04

in the second or third round, Goody takes a

29:06

wide receiver because the value's just too good. He

29:08

may have someone that's two or three tiers higher

29:12

than where you're currently picking. That's the beauty

29:14

of the draft for sure. All

29:18

right, with that being said, we're

29:20

sitting there talking about rookie receivers, right?

29:23

Or potential rookie receivers. Why don't we

29:25

do this? We got a

29:27

video that the Packers posted on

29:30

their Twitter account, I think it was earlier today

29:32

or yesterday, talking about the impact that the rookies

29:34

made last year. Why don't we key that up

29:36

real quick and check it out? I

29:43

haven't been a part of a draft

29:45

where we've added that many new pieces.

29:47

Really excited about the group overall. We

29:50

got a lot of young guys. It's a really

29:52

good roster, winning roster. A lot of confidence in

29:54

this team. That's

30:01

exciting, the draft she tied in. Both those

30:03

guys are big, physical, fast. I've always been

30:06

ready to get in the huddle for football.

30:08

I didn't know I'd get first round drafted,

30:10

but I knew I could play that stuff.

30:12

Sleeping, hands off, hook down, hook to the

30:14

trap. Can't go through the order. Certainly

30:17

having a lot of youth, the

30:19

dog mentality is exciting. For

30:22

the receiver group, we made an advantage. It really

30:24

don't matter about age. Touchdown

30:26

to the rookies on Fabian

30:29

West. I've been playing ball my

30:31

whole life and I still don't think I'd scratch the

30:33

surface of what I could be. These

30:38

four rookies were responsible for 20

30:40

touchdowns last season. Jaden Reed

30:42

led all Packers with 10 TDs of his

30:45

own, highlighting a stellar rookie

30:47

campaign. With

30:49

the draft right around the corner, Brian

30:51

Gudetunce is looking for even more young

30:53

talent. Perhaps some that can make

30:55

an impact day one. A

30:58

lot of the success we've had, I think, you know,

31:00

the last couple of years, I think, just been a

31:02

lot of opportunity. The opportunity can lead to these guys

31:04

getting to where they've gotten to so quickly. Don

31:06

Fabian West, oh my goodness.

31:09

We're asking these guys that we picked to come

31:11

in and be positive contributors to our football team.

31:14

The last couple of years was just a ton

31:17

of opportunities for these guys to go see, and

31:19

credit to them, they did. Leaping grab, pull down

31:21

Jaden Reed. That's what we're trying to

31:23

create as we move forward, is just making sure that

31:25

there's always going to be opportunities for guys to excel.

31:28

There's

31:31

a saving call. Perfect

31:34

drive, Tim. Absolutely perfect drive. So,

31:38

again, no one here is saying that, hey, man, we need to

31:40

go out and address receiver. It's just, it's so deep. I

31:44

wouldn't bet against the Packers taking the receiver, you know. There's

31:46

probably going to be a situation where one falls in their

31:49

lap and they feel good about it. But, again,

31:51

it's just so nice to have – it's

31:53

hard not to grin because all

31:56

those receivers, they just talked about all those tight

31:58

ends. Rookie contracts for the most part. You know,

32:00

I mean, you're set for such a

32:02

long time. With the, that

32:04

salary cap hit for the wide receiver

32:07

room is going to be so low for so

32:09

long. Gootie made a comment yesterday at

32:11

the press or two. He said, what

32:13

they're seeing in today's NFL is

32:15

on average 1.6 players

32:18

in every draft class resigns with

32:21

team. So out of

32:23

your entire draft class, less than

32:25

two on average. So you'd say every

32:27

two years you're signing an

32:30

extra one essentially is what it's saying. But

32:32

on average, you're only signing one to

32:34

two players from that draft class to

32:36

a second contract. So immediately

32:38

my mind goes to who's up

32:40

first for contracts in our receiver room. Romeo

32:43

Dobbs and Christian Watson, we're still a couple,

32:45

still not, you know, obviously not

32:47

this offseason but next offseason will be the big

32:49

talk for are we going to resign those two

32:51

guys. You

32:53

know, probably not going to, you know, unless

32:55

you get a really, really good hometown discount,

32:57

you know, that's going to be what it

32:59

comes down to. That's the tough decision. I

33:01

don't want to be in Gootie shoes because

33:03

it's like, if you fast

33:05

forward two years and you have to resign one

33:08

of those guys, you got to make a decision.

33:10

Who are you resigning? Romeo Dobbs, Mr. Dependable

33:13

when the game's on the line, absolute, you know,

33:15

he's the high point guy right now or

33:18

Christian Watson who's got that blazing speed at that hand he's

33:20

fixed this year. He's going to break out. There's no doubt

33:22

in my mind. That's a good problem

33:24

to have, but it's a tough decision to make too, you

33:26

know. And to Jacob's point,

33:28

that's also why, like, you can get receivers

33:31

are kind of, they're coming up on the dime

33:33

a dozen. So if you need to rotate every

33:35

four years, you know, every three years, keep picking

33:37

them up and moving, they can

33:39

start playing catch at five now, you

33:41

know, five, six, seven, they're already on

33:43

the receiver game. So, yeah.

33:46

To open this in the chat, I could see

33:48

Goot pick a wide receiver just for the fifth

33:50

year option. The fifth year option has changed so

33:52

much. It's like, it's an

33:54

extra added layer of strategy when making

33:56

those picks in the first round, right?

34:00

I argued that yeah, like obviously we're all

34:02

sitting here thinking that we're sitting pretty high

34:04

and pretty on our wide receiver group But

34:06

next year that changes the earth through that

34:08

that changes drastically and we have to make

34:10

decisions like we've talked about it We're gonna

34:12

pay these guys. We're gonna give them the

34:14

bag. Are we gonna give them like absolutely? I

34:17

know Jerry rice money. No, we're not and

34:19

in my opinion This

34:22

is great. We're stacking talent to the

34:24

point where and it sounds almost

34:27

cold-hearted because this is what good he does man

34:29

He's like we don't care if you're

34:31

a hometown hero Once

34:34

you're once your contract is up,

34:36

dude We got guys in the

34:38

hopper. We're ready to go We got guys that

34:40

maybe are better than you and no matter what

34:42

your jersey sells and all that kind of stuff

34:45

We're just gonna move on and like like

34:47

I said, like I love goody as a

34:49

business owner If I were to ever start

34:51

a business, I'd have beauty, you know as

34:53

my as my GM if I were to ever

34:56

start a charity No The

35:01

guy's gonna Know

35:04

he's phenomenal man. We actually got another video here real

35:06

quick If you guys want to hit it since we're

35:08

kind of talking about goody There's a couple soundbots in

35:10

here This was on Packers calm as well Where

35:13

he talks about the draft being the lock blood of what

35:15

the Green Bay Packers do to build their roster Let's hit

35:17

that real quick. It's kind of a short video The

35:21

draft is a lifeblood of this organization always kind of

35:23

has been The

35:28

guys in that locker room are telling us to bring in

35:30

the right kind of guys to help them achieve their goals

35:32

You know the guys we bring in this or have to

35:34

be prepared for that They have to go to fit in

35:36

to match process and what he wants to do and buy

35:38

into the culture And that's one of the things I think

35:40

I feel really good about right now You know not only

35:42

the culture that we have but the willingness for all those

35:45

guys to compete in the new kind of a tissue Every

35:49

draft boss is different We're asking of these

35:51

these guys that we pick to come in

35:54

and be positive contributors to our football team

35:57

I do think that you give them the opportunity

35:59

early to make the mistakes and

36:01

get to the other side of it that they can profoundly

36:03

impact your team in the second half of the season and

36:05

maybe end the playoffs. You've got to be willing to kind

36:07

of live through the growth period if you want to get

36:10

to the other side of it. What

36:14

he said there, too, he described to a

36:16

tee what happened last year, right, Tim? Like,

36:18

it was you allowed them to make the

36:20

mistakes. You guys know how I felt about

36:22

Aaron Rodgers, right? I was a big Aaron

36:24

Rodgers fan. You're

36:26

never going to convince me that Gooty made the

36:29

right decision, signing him to an extension and then

36:31

eating that dead money. I just think that's just

36:33

you bought high, you sold low. It

36:35

is what it is, right? I don't think he expected

36:38

that working relationship with Aaron

36:40

to get to the point where they couldn't

36:42

make it work. And obviously, it was a

36:44

miscalculation. But one thing

36:46

I can say, and it's

36:49

so obvious, if Aaron

36:51

Rodgers had been the quarterback last

36:53

year, those young guys wouldn't have

36:55

got as much an opportunity. There's no doubt about

36:58

that. Because there would have been two or

37:00

three players on that roster that Aaron wanted, right? And

37:02

who's to say you shouldn't? Because the

37:04

dude has the pelts on the wall. It's not

37:06

this isn't an Aaron Rodgers dog fest, right? We're

37:08

not here to bash 12. First

37:11

ballot Hall of Famer, arguably the greatest thrower of the

37:13

football in the history of the game. But

37:16

the fact that they moved on

37:19

from him and went with Jordan Love

37:21

is the whole reason that we were able to get

37:23

those growing pains out of the way. You've got to

37:25

tip your freaking cap to Brian Gootakins, right,

37:27

Tim? I mean, that dude, it took some, I

37:30

won't say the English person, but we'll

37:32

go a little bit, it took some way both to do

37:34

that. You know what I'm saying? So anyway, what do you

37:36

think? I love it, man. That's my

37:39

GM right there. What did you say all

37:41

year last year, Tim? Let the kids play.

37:44

Let the kids play. And it comes with

37:46

growing pains, right? I mean, sometimes

37:48

you got to let the kid fall down and

37:50

dust himself off and get up. So he

37:53

or she knows what it's like. That's life, right? And it's

37:56

the same thing in the NFL. You

37:58

draft these guys because- So, you believe in them.

38:01

You put them into a system because you believe that

38:03

they're gonna fit and they're gonna understand

38:05

the culture and what we're trying to build here

38:07

and you've got to be ready

38:09

for the fact that they're gonna struggle early

38:11

and it gets greater later as they

38:13

say. You know not everybody comes in and they're

38:16

just lights out right away. We see

38:18

that once in a while but

38:20

for the most part rookies need to develop

38:22

and you know we're seeing that with a

38:24

lot of our young players now that

38:27

are coming through you know

38:29

their journeys. It's the same thing we could say on the

38:31

defensive side of the ball with guys like Quay Walker you

38:34

know going into his third year right here this is

38:36

a pivotal year for the trajectory

38:38

of his career you know and kudos to

38:40

the Packers for you know

38:42

putting that putting that belief in

38:44

him and you know other

38:47

young players on this team and letting them letting

38:49

them learn as they go because I'm

38:52

convinced in the NFL man the only way to

38:54

get better is to get snaps and to be

38:56

out there and you know sometimes you do you

38:58

got to just struggle and get over

39:00

it and it makes you a stronger player later.

39:02

Some guys don't some guys just struggle and they

39:05

struggle and they struggle and then they you know

39:08

they're working at Home Depot so it's

39:10

just working at Ola Home Depot. Yeah what

39:12

are you what are you gonna do you

39:14

know it's the NFL it's you know the

39:16

highest level of football for a reason so

39:19

I just think it's cool to see that

39:21

our GM has that mentality that we're not

39:23

gonna cut and run from guys just

39:25

because they struggle you know right yeah

39:27

and it makes players want to play for

39:30

that organization too there's no doubt about it

39:32

that they're not gonna just everyone

39:34

isn't walking on on

39:36

you know a thin thread right it's just

39:38

all right look we're gonna have a chance

39:40

to grow together let's pick each other up

39:42

that's what Jordan Love did so well been

39:44

holding in the chat said Jordan Love is

39:46

Brett Farfirth Aaron Rodgers second I think that's

39:49

a very good description man some of those

39:51

throws Jordan made last year Amelia it was

39:53

just like yeah that felt like

39:55

far right there and some of the montages

39:57

that Eli and I think it's Eli Berkowitz

39:59

on Twitter and a couple other

40:01

people had put together were just phenomenal.

40:04

Like, side-by-side shots of videos

40:06

of Ford making a throw against the same opponent,

40:08

right, like there's the Lions or whatever. And then

40:10

it would go to the Jordan Lovethorn. It's like,

40:13

we've seen this movie before, Emilio. Yeah,

40:15

oh, definitely. And Watson, I still

40:17

remember that throw in Atlanta. It

40:20

was a fleet flicker. The play action

40:22

pass right off the bat. Oh, man.

40:25

He can absolutely let that thing rip. And

40:27

I just, seeing

40:29

him grow alongside the rest of the

40:32

young guys, like, Jordan Lovethorn is

40:34

still young, right? He's on this, we're going to get

40:36

him his second contract, but he's still young.

40:39

That's not the problem. And I think that,

40:41

you know, we're just going to keep adding

40:43

talent and adding talent, and Gootie doesn't care

40:46

if we're overstocked on talent in one

40:48

position. I mean, I think that's

40:50

fine that he turned it in a draft off at

40:52

all part of the plan. But if he can just

40:54

get good players and, you know, stick

40:56

to his board, if it's work, I'm pretty sure

40:59

Greg was, Kostal was saying, every

41:01

year, you know, teams aren't going to say this, but

41:03

they aim to get four starters out of their draft

41:05

pick. Right. Gootie has

41:07

been hitting that, right? Gootie has been actually making

41:10

that happen when other guys are just shooting for

41:12

that. So that's something crazy that,

41:14

you know, we're lucky to have him. Like Tim

41:16

said, we're over here saying that.

41:19

I'm a quarterback. But

41:22

we're saying that for Gootie, right? Right.

41:25

That's what you get, man. Gangsta

41:28

Gootie also known as the Gootinator. That's

41:30

the new nickname. If you wore the

41:32

pink sunglasses, a T.O. wore in that.

41:35

Oh, come on. Let's go. It's

41:37

funny too, Jacob. I was the shindig we had here at

41:39

the property that I couldn't say because I've got family members

41:41

that watch the show every now and again. It

41:44

was my brother-in-law's 50th birthday.

41:46

So that I didn't, you know, it was supposed to be a

41:49

surprise. So me and my nephew are hanging out. You guys know

41:51

my nephew is a big Vikings fan. We're

41:53

sitting at the table, you know, eating dinner or whatever.

41:56

And I was telling him about how funny it

41:58

was watching Chicago. Chicago Bears fans

42:00

react last year. Because it was like

42:02

early in the years, like, oh, loves a bus and about

42:04

three quarters of the way through the season. I remember one

42:06

specific tweet that said, pack it in, boys,

42:09

they did it again. They did it again, right? And

42:12

he said, this is exactly what Sami said. He

42:14

said, watching that game against the

42:16

Vikings, I think it was New Year's Eve. He said,

42:19

off his back foot and just,

42:21

he went, he put

42:23

it, he went, it's not fair. That's what he said.

42:26

I laughed, bro. Like, yes, that

42:28

was the back foot to Wix, if I'm

42:30

not mistaken, wasn't it? Yes. Yeah.

42:34

Hilarious. That's when everybody went,

42:36

oh, no. Yeah, exactly. And

42:39

we all went, ooh, we should

42:41

have, we did it again. So we'll see,

42:43

we'll see if it shakes out. We got

42:45

a question here earlier in the chat from

42:48

Tony Holman said, what's your take on

42:50

Cole Bishop? Cole Bishop's getting talked about

42:52

a lot, guys, a lot. Ryan, if

42:54

you guys haven't listened to his pod,

42:57

he did a safety breakdown. He did

42:59

two pods yesterday. He's just been churning

43:01

it out with the prospect breakdowns. He

43:04

did the safety position and Cole Bishop, I

43:07

immediately text him as I heard his take

43:09

on Cole Bishop, I'm like, dude, I

43:12

can't figure it out. Like, you

43:15

know, I told him, I said, are you not worried

43:17

about the PFF grade? And his immediate response was, well,

43:19

the year before was good, right? And it was.

43:22

I think he was 139th grade in

43:24

safety, not great, but good, right? In

43:27

2022, but in 2023, it was 529. We

43:30

broke it down the other day. We were kind of

43:32

looking at some of the safety statistics. The

43:35

consensus big board obviously had him in the

43:37

97 spot early on. The

43:39

33rd team had him at 74. And

43:42

Daniel Jeremiah, I think his final list, he comes in at

43:44

61, right? So again, he's

43:46

sitting in the 115 spot for me. But

43:49

I put a, this is the largest bonus

43:51

I've ever put on a player for Greg

43:54

Cosell. Greg Cosell raved

43:56

over Him. He was just like, he

43:58

can play anywhere on the field. Or

44:00

he's got everything. especially I'm at. You know

44:02

I'm not a sound him as others but

44:05

again my board is very safe in that

44:07

regard. As a probably one fifteen isn't too

44:09

bad of a spot to put him in.

44:11

How do you guys feel about call Bishop

44:13

Farm? Obviously we talk. I think it was

44:15

him we were talking with a wingspan and

44:17

everything to of our member correctly. But take

44:19

a bus, Start with you man, what do

44:21

you think about her. About

44:23

cold bishop man all

44:25

law or because it

44:27

round round for. That's

44:30

where I'm. Ah, I'm I've seen

44:32

the comparisons to where he's. Bomb.

44:35

A guy who's the Harrison

44:37

Smith. Guy. Can move

44:39

around the field. And. Again, it's a twenty

44:41

years later I gave me gets very much as

44:44

a yes in that aspect. And the god it's

44:46

like he doesn't need to be the deed. Safety

44:48

like a lot of times a look at these

44:50

safeties are like will he can't do a single

44:52

I covered It's like they are. We don't need

44:55

that. We need a box like we want a

44:57

box when a guy. The complaint maybe place lot

44:59

of I don't know if you can. Pull.

45:02

A blob is such a hit,

45:04

his position all snaps on that

45:06

but it's like like we don't

45:08

need a standalone. Me: Don't don't

45:10

get me wrong I love to have new been. I love the

45:12

have of these guys that are in own. Apparently.

45:14

The best safeties but I think the are some.

45:17

Some. By low draft just chance

45:19

that are just sit there. We talked

45:22

about any I know Tim loves Odd.

45:25

It's. Talked about of dabo I which is actually

45:27

kind of funny now because when as a look.

45:30

Used to be available with the last pic. And.

45:32

The seventh round the skies go now and

45:34

a fourth and vs as dress so that's

45:37

cool that's cool the actually see that is

45:39

moving up. I'm. Omar Brown and a

45:41

guy that I know Tim was. Out

45:43

Kimball. Love that guy. Trade Taylor

45:45

Ah, Airforce Safety. these are some

45:47

other of the players as an

45:49

odd nearly what's your what's your

45:52

guy de de de that yes.

45:55

Yes, or no young doesn't hold this

45:57

yup i see his grades i just don't

46:01

I don't see him being

46:03

worth that higher draft

46:05

pick that people are placing him in. I

46:08

just don't see it, you know? I just don't. What

46:11

Jacob's talking about is in 2021, 399 snaps per coal bishop, 62.8. He

46:17

was the 479th graded safety. In

46:21

2022, he jumped the 75.5 as the 139th highest

46:23

graded safety. Then

46:27

last year, 587 snaps, he dropped back to a 65.6 for the

46:29

520th graded safety. Good

46:35

size, 6'2, 207 is what it's got here. I

46:38

think somebody said he was close to 6'3, but I could

46:40

be wrong. Jake may have those measurements handy if you want

46:42

to see them. He is only 21 years old. When

46:45

you were talking about snap count though, Jacob, let's pull this

46:47

up real quick. So

46:50

last year, he played the majority of his

46:52

snaps as a deep safety, 247. He

46:55

was in the box 180. He

46:57

was in the slot 97 times. He

47:00

was kind of mugging the line of scrimmage 38 times,

47:02

and he played corner 25 snaps. If

47:06

you go to the year before though, he

47:08

played in the box a large majority of the

47:10

time with 345 snaps. He

47:13

played slot 208 snaps and deep 101 snaps. So

47:18

when you look at his grade the

47:20

year before, his highest grade came the

47:22

year that he played in the

47:24

box the most, which is pretty much what

47:26

everybody's saying. He is a box safety. Now,

47:28

when you look at his first look at

47:30

his scouting report here, obviously it

47:33

says, Bishop has starting

47:35

potential as a strong safety and a

47:37

slot defender, but he must work on

47:39

his over aggressiveness tendencies and lack of

47:41

patience in zone. Hacker fans

47:44

would love this too because they

47:46

want more aggressiveness. Right. Yes, Brady

47:48

Papingle once said aggressivity. So

47:50

yeah, it's going to be interesting to see

47:52

if the Packers get a beat on him.

47:54

Now, the other guy you were talking about

47:57

was DTD, right? I'm

48:00

gonna go look at the difference. If

48:02

you remove the name, right, keep

48:05

them on the size, though, keep them keep them on

48:07

the age if you remove the name, which

48:09

one would you be more interested in, according to

48:11

PFF 2021

48:14

DTD 76. He

48:16

was the hundred and 21st graded safety.

48:19

In 2022, he was 74.5, 163rd graded safety. And

48:24

then last year he jumped to 78.5 the 99th graded safety. So

48:28

you're seeing, I mean, that's a

48:31

very high floor, right, as compared to

48:33

Cole Bishop. But the thing that

48:35

gets me about Cole Bishop is

48:37

my man Greg Coasell has forgot way more

48:39

about football than I will ever know. And

48:42

he is so high on Cole Bishop, I'm like, he is

48:44

seeing something there, man. So

48:46

yeah, it's gonna be like I said, the

48:49

other thing too, if those of you are

48:51

wondering, when Ryan was kind

48:53

of going through the Dane Bruegler breakdown of

48:55

the safeties, you know, Ryan here on Packernet

48:57

podcast, he said, I'm just

49:00

gonna say it, Tyler Newman's my top safety and

49:02

I went. Yes.

49:06

I try not to talk about the negative stuff too much. Jacob,

49:08

I think I asked you all this in the chat. I don't

49:10

know if you're responding or not. He

49:13

said that Javon Bullard got a DUI.

49:15

Did you hear about that? Yeah, dude, I

49:18

okay. So I did not hear about that. I looked it

49:20

up. It seems as if

49:22

it is true, which, you know, and

49:25

he's extremely intelligent. That's what's so weird.

49:27

You know what I mean? They talk about how he's

49:29

got like extremely high Q and then you get a

49:31

D do something like that knucklehead and get a DUI.

49:33

It's like kind of weird. You know what I mean?

49:36

Well, I mean, to be honest, everybody makes mistakes,

49:38

man. I've done some stupid stuff in

49:40

my life where like, well, we're gonna give it.

49:47

I just mean like we really do like think

49:49

about it. Hold

49:51

a microscope up to these guys to

49:53

the point where it's like, have

49:55

they ever like, did

49:58

they fart weird? Like, you know. What?

50:01

These. Are not as or lead a

50:03

lot of the to, they're about to

50:05

enter the big shower, a lot of

50:07

pressure you know you're like, maybe one

50:09

last. Last July he was

50:11

having a little little fine and you

50:13

know, Made. A mistake. You know?

50:15

I'm not making excuses, but. I

50:18

think a young player like this and a

50:20

lot of these you know draft picks here

50:22

are looking at it as like a had

50:24

saw business after. After. Draft

50:27

Day Tamil, my library north of

50:29

Know that Moon and the As

50:31

roll up barrels for box and.

50:35

I I legitimately claim. but like, come

50:37

on guys, you member what was like

50:39

to be seventeen. Imagine that you're seventeen.

50:42

Anglers. An Ivy League scholar when

50:44

I was a a messenger seventeen.

50:46

you have. Georgia looking

50:48

at yeah he got frickin' mer.

50:50

If you know Alabama looking at

50:52

you could not tell me if

50:54

I guess. I'm gonna

50:56

fight the whole world. I get to

50:58

have that wind underneath. Yeah, just is

51:01

an approach. It's the rule evolution of

51:03

human spirit like you. You think you're

51:05

a big you know what and then

51:07

of sunlight. Punches. You down

51:09

and you realize oh no, I'm just kind

51:11

of a guy. I think that that's. I

51:14

think that's certainly be taken. Into

51:17

account. So.

51:20

You. Bomb bowlers. Pff Grade: Twenty Twenty

51:22

One Seventy Point Four Twenty twenty

51:24

to eighty point Four Thousand Forty

51:26

Three Eighty Two Point Eight. So.

51:29

So when he's not O W I

51:31

N, he's pretty good school or Colbert

51:33

is a. Is a versatile

51:36

secondary player with the fearless mentality.

51:38

bomb. The will Not a fearless

51:40

mentality is though he isn't an

51:42

elite athlete, his competitiveness, quickness, and

51:44

tackling ability project him to a

51:46

starting role as a nickel. You.

51:50

A Meet again I was a very big

51:52

on bowler a happy at it know a

51:54

whole lot of modern some start of my

51:57

tastes the same got. Listen please note note

51:59

and here. Don't have to

52:01

on hard. Oh.

52:04

My. God. Really? Right? Jacob

52:07

doesn't want to run bowler up and

52:09

we was the highlight reel. We're like

52:11

what what is this? See him you

52:13

remember I used all inflate really really

52:15

address so I will be okay with

52:17

Bullard in against. The. Whole D

52:20

U I think it is what is. He

52:22

has managed to save people, make mistakes. Arm

52:24

is just A I'd never heard that right

52:26

in. I. Think Jacob new the whole

52:28

time and he was withholding information. A million

52:30

if elected to I believe the I believe

52:32

or to be true as well but you

52:34

get would resign about go Bishop That's who

52:37

I had Bullard and I had Bullard and

52:39

Jaden hex higher than. Than. Bishop.

52:41

And now I might have the. Might. Have

52:43

to to have my other end of it. And

52:45

and I'll say this Amelia you may get no

52:47

room, no room to talk here. Too old for

52:50

this as D T D sound like someone says

52:52

i something Rodgers going to do in the jungles

52:54

of Brazil when he supposed training at. C

52:57

M T but close enough people to be

52:59

I got was with him down to the

53:02

game in Brazil. The. A

53:04

nurse. there's new stuff now. he's been after

53:06

like and toads. It's all. This.

53:09

And Judy in the chat. this is like

53:11

when you look at taller new in this

53:13

is kind of what you see Oliver tape.

53:15

He said you can't teach instincts and new

53:17

Been has instincts I call a plane with

53:19

your eyes like get do We just always

53:21

in the right spot on obviously has Pff

53:23

grade was suggest that to and twenty twenty

53:25

one Pff grade a seventy two point six

53:27

on the hundred ninety second greatest city in

53:29

college football and twenty twenty two Egypt and

53:31

the utter seventy six point four make him

53:33

the hundred and twenty eighth grade safety. And

53:35

in a twenty twenty three he jumped the

53:37

eighty nine point. To make it in the

53:40

tenth highest graded safety. Or I think

53:42

it's funny that people not feel safe.

53:44

but when you look at the upgrades

53:46

a lot of absolutely perfect with how

53:48

these prospects are kind of right. yeah

53:50

most cases Now dame burglar I think

53:52

he had Tyler new been third on

53:54

his cyclists. second matter who on hold

53:56

on we got breaking news here. Not

53:58

you want do what I did. When

54:00

you do breaking news, we got to have some kind of sound by let

54:02

me hit you with something News

54:07

go ahead Bullards DWI

54:09

was in September of 2022

54:11

not something recently not justifying

54:13

just for reference Yeah, thank

54:15

you. So wait Almost

54:19

two years ago Yeah,

54:22

what Tim what Tim he's 21

54:24

point seven years old Tim dude,

54:27

you do the math I'm

54:31

sorry. I can't see you. There's a big nothing burger

54:33

in the way I'm

54:39

not moving them on my board now.

54:41

There's no way. Thank you. Thank you

54:43

Bates for clarifying No,

54:51

I just look I again

54:54

I'll reiterate I've made some

54:59

I've never had the The

55:02

aura of having like hey you may be

55:04

a multi-millionaire to like right. Yes We got

55:06

to cut these guys some slack man. These

55:09

are young men that are Just

55:12

thrust into fame thrust into money And

55:15

honestly, like that's why I love guys

55:18

like came out Eric's gonna cut

55:20

that Aaron

55:22

Jones types, you know what I mean? like guys that

55:24

really do come in there and they just They

55:27

do their job and they make everybody better

55:29

and they just kind of like grind it

55:31

out It's like it's it's cool, man. It's

55:33

nice to see there Let's

55:42

give a toast a boulevard not screwing up again

55:46

Anyway, he's gonna be a packer and we're all gonna be like oh

55:48

god Watch watch

55:50

we take him into boundary and they're

55:52

like just don't go out dude. Don't

55:55

go out people. There's rumors There's this

55:57

this myth that there's a place called

55:59

the oval office that exists, it's not real.

56:01

Don't even go looking for it. All right.

56:03

It does not exist. You sure about that?

56:07

Hey, Tyler Neuban is scouting her for

56:09

it. Tyler Neuban says, Neuban possesses the

56:12

athleticism, football IQ, and talent as a

56:14

run stopper to be a versatile and

56:16

impactful safety in any scheme. He

56:19

would likely make the most plays in

56:22

a system that consistently uses a

56:24

too deep coverage and

56:27

allowing him to play free, robber,

56:30

and box safety roles. It just so

56:32

happens we just went and signed the

56:35

best deep safety, one of the best deep

56:37

safeties in the league. Right? So

56:39

that would be a perfect compliment. I'm just saying,

56:42

man, little enforcer. So

56:45

yeah. With that being said,

56:47

all right, Drew,

56:49

come on now, buddy. All

56:52

right. So anything

56:55

else you guys want to hit on that we've talked about so

56:57

far, this is your fault, Emilio. You keep grinning. This is your

56:59

fault. I do. Emilio's

57:02

pouring gas on the fire. He

57:05

comes over here walking around with my knee. We

57:10

pride ourselves on people being able to

57:12

hang out and talk in the chat. And as

57:14

long as you're not being disrespectful for each other,

57:16

everybody's got an opinion. It's cool. But you guys

57:18

are pushing it today. And

57:22

I know it's my fault. I'm not going to sit here

57:24

and shout right from it. Anything

57:27

else you guys want to add before I play

57:29

a really cool draft day video of a trade

57:31

that happened? I think it was last

57:33

year or the year before. I have one thing.

57:35

I started a new job recently, and I get to work with

57:38

a bunch of really great people. And

57:40

there's a funny guy. He's

57:43

so from Jersey that like he's,

57:45

you know, everything he says, oh,

57:47

yeah, you know. And I asked

57:49

him, he goes, oh, yeah, yeah.

57:52

And I'm like, yeah, yeah, it's the Packers,

57:54

bro. Like, I'm a diehard Packer fan. He

57:57

goes, oh, my God. He goes, aye, aye,

57:59

aye, aye. That's just the way

58:01

we talk in the clink. He goes, he

58:03

took my boy McKinney. He's like, I can't

58:05

even understand how the hell you guys can

58:07

out of it. It's evil, it's

58:09

evil what you did to me. It's evil and I

58:11

was just, I'm sitting there, he

58:13

winded up and he goes, he goes, they

58:15

took Saekwon from me and they took McKinney

58:18

and now what do they want me

58:20

to do? They want to sit here and take a quarterback, what

58:22

am I gonna do? What am I gonna do? And I'm just

58:24

sitting here just losing it. Jacob

58:27

sounds more Boston than the

58:29

guy he's describing probably. Or

58:31

Boston. He sounds

58:33

like somebody that works at Schlossky's

58:35

Daily over on Pellissippi Park Lane.

58:38

Jersey Mike, Jersey Mike. Jersey,

58:42

yeah. Sounds a little more, I

58:45

can't kind of bawl. I can't kind

58:47

of bawl, man. Gabagool, that's what I'm

58:49

saying. I don't know. I'm really

58:51

old black man, you're making my quarter Italian flare

58:53

up over here. Yeah,

58:56

they don't like you over there, Emilio. Yeah.

58:59

He says you work with Jersey Mike's cousin.

59:03

God, anybody else got anything, Emilio, say something

59:05

for God's sake. Jersey Mike has some good

59:07

subs, man. He does. I'm

59:11

crying. Filled with oil. Anybody-

59:14

Pump your own gas in Jersey. What'd

59:18

you say Emilio? I said you can't pump

59:20

your own gas in Jersey. Somebody else wants to do it.

59:23

Okay. They charge you for it? Is

59:27

that all you got? Is that it? Trying to,

59:30

yeah. You said you'd give you something. That's all

59:32

I got. That's definitely something. Gentlemen, it brings you

59:34

to my next point. Don't

59:36

smoke crack. Magic

59:40

One says Jacob could have been on the Sopranos.

59:45

Stony Kurt. He wears all

59:47

the hats around here. He can play the Matt

59:49

Italian. He can also play the- For those of you

59:51

listening on the pod. He

59:54

can pull the country off. He got the whole thing. That's

59:57

the end 40. Don't take your cat to

59:59

the bar. I know. I know. I

1:00:02

know. I know. I

1:00:04

know. Guys, we're almost to the

1:00:06

draft. We just about made it. So we're

1:00:09

going to have a little fun, man. We've

1:00:11

worked our rear ends off getting ready for

1:00:13

this draft. I finished the board

1:00:15

last night, and I literally leaned back in the

1:00:17

chair and went, because

1:00:21

it took forever, man. Let me give you

1:00:23

all one last glimpse here, and then we'll play this

1:00:25

video. I want to show you the horizontal board and

1:00:28

just how much information is on this thing. It

1:00:30

is absolutely wild. Let's

1:00:32

see here. Pop it up here, right? And

1:00:35

let's zoom out. Let's just give you kind of a... You're not going

1:00:37

to be able to see the names, obviously, but look at this board.

1:00:40

And Emilio, I've got you a copy. We're

1:00:42

going to get it printed off tomorrow. So

1:00:45

when you're here at the house, obviously,

1:00:47

you'll have a laminated copy of this that we can

1:00:49

work. We'll also have the 30-13s as well. Every

1:00:52

prospect with a grade on them, right?

1:00:55

You got the positions running horizontally, hence

1:00:58

the horizontal board. And

1:01:00

they're obviously graded vertically, right? So you can kind

1:01:02

of see where the clusters and positions are. Like

1:01:04

I said, right around the time the Packers picked,

1:01:06

there should be a pretty good choice

1:01:08

of cornerbacks there in that range, as you see over

1:01:10

here to the right, with potentially

1:01:13

a Kool-Aid, McCandry, Nate Wiggins. I don't think Terry

1:01:15

and Arnold is going to fall that far, to

1:01:17

be honest with you, but that's where I've got

1:01:19

him. I've got him a little lower than most.

1:01:21

Cooper DeGene will be there. Some people consider him more

1:01:24

of a safety than a corner. You can work it out

1:01:27

however you want. In a straight trail

1:01:29

sitting there as well. You see the tackle

1:01:31

depth that we talked about the entire process,

1:01:33

absolutely loaded with tackle. When we're

1:01:35

talking about wide receivers, too, at the

1:01:37

top, you've got Marvin Harrison, Jr., Roma Dunez,

1:01:39

and Malik Nabors. Some will put Brian Johnson,

1:01:41

Jr. in there as well. He's not there

1:01:43

on my board. But then as you

1:01:45

get down here, look at how this stuff gets punched up

1:01:47

at the wide receiver position. Like, look at

1:01:49

all these receivers in this column right here, man. That's what

1:01:52

we were just talking about, right? They're

1:01:54

all bunched up there together. And

1:01:56

then the other thing, too, when you get to the safety position,

1:01:59

you've got to do that. Tyler Neuben at the top

1:02:01

on my board, Ninja Von Bullard, right? Don't take

1:02:03

your body to the car or the car to

1:02:05

the bar, whatever it was. You

1:02:08

got Ola Dapo, then you got this cluster that

1:02:10

Daniel Jeremiah was talking about where they're all kind

1:02:12

of bunched up right there. You just take your

1:02:14

pick, what kind of DB, what kind of safety

1:02:17

you want. So the

1:02:20

linebacker positions, another big need you see,

1:02:23

big void at the top of the draft is

1:02:25

linebacker position, the board reflects that. Then

1:02:28

you got Junior Colson, Peyton Wilson, Cedric

1:02:30

Gray, Edger and Cooper, Jeremiah Trotter Jr.

1:02:32

After the final edition with Daniel Jeremiah's,

1:02:34

Edger and Cooper officially leaked frog Jeremiah

1:02:36

Trotter Jr., which makes me feel a

1:02:38

lot better about my horizontal boards. So

1:02:40

you guys are still big on him

1:02:42

too. Why

1:02:45

you selling that for $9.99 or? Actually,

1:02:48

anyone who's a Patreon member will have

1:02:50

it in there. So we've

1:02:53

already shared it. We

1:02:55

didn't plan that. That's a pretty good segue.

1:02:57

Let's do this real quick. So let's

1:02:59

go ahead and give a shout out to

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the newest Patreon members, which is

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Mr. Roger Davis. We got Mr.

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all supporting us there on

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Patreon. Damon

1:03:18

Stewart, big shot there, man.

1:03:22

$10 pledge, which is kind of cool. So this

1:03:24

is just stuff that we're trying to add to

1:03:27

kind of kind of spot it up

1:03:30

a little bit for the Patreon members. Obviously, we're going

1:03:32

to be given away in round

1:03:34

one of the draft. We're going to be given

1:03:36

away an autographed Paul Hornig jersey. It's

1:03:38

got the accolades sewn on to the back

1:03:41

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1:03:43

good stuff. Autographed by the Golden Boy. Anyone

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who is a Patreon member going

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into round one, try to get it

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in the night before because there's no guarantee if you wait

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till the day of the draft when you become a Patreon

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member, I may already have the giveaway set up, but

1:03:56

we're going to spin the wheel during the first round And

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whoever it. Hims on out of our patriot

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members they're gonna win this autograph. Paul wanting

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jersey So really really exciting there. So again,

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present your support. Shortest way for us to

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give back the are. Always. Shown

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sports of can it Can I say one thing

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real quick are my my father. I.

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Gifted him a poor horning

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football like two three. Four.

1:04:19

Years ago he just sex me like as we're starting

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his draft he goes hey man I know and will

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and so I thought, right at school.

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So if you guys want to army.

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Just have an extra incentive. Maybe we give like

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a. Third, Fourth, her consolation

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prize I'll give you are are Paul

1:04:39

Horning autographed football as well? Go up

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at that? Know? Why don't we do

1:04:44

this? Wanna leave? Remind me as if

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to Jacob, why don't we? On Day

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two, during the second third round one

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What We do The Paul Hornung left

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without knowing it. Oh so

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any whatever him on a dartboard not

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the I'm i'm not trying to go neighbors have

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get that pdf file the fuckin if not

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understand us in the exact late to the

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horizontal bore to everyone in feature on this

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evening is pretty much finished up now. Are

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but this video came. I believe

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it was if I remember correctly

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it was our money. Awesome for

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on who was the general manager

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at stake for. The. Cardinals at

1:06:00

the com a belief in this he we were

1:06:02

talking about trade route news a lot of rumors

1:06:04

the Packers to trade up they could trade back

1:06:07

were all team trade back here. I think we

1:06:09

would all agree with that. But

1:06:11

ill people talk about houses so we date. They

1:06:13

make it sound as if it's so easy to

1:06:16

trade your and draft graphics Good he talked about

1:06:18

he was as somebody as a great question or

1:06:20

an oppressor yesterday lead not to weaken the draft.

1:06:23

You can already have some conversations are set the

1:06:25

stage for a potential draft. A If we were

1:06:27

to want to move up here are move back

1:06:29

What would you be willing to give? Okay, cool

1:06:31

And then when you get the draft say it's

1:06:33

okay. Is that offer still there? And again, like

1:06:35

Jacobs said yesterday on the Pod. It's.

1:06:37

Not as you gotta turn attack. You get

1:06:40

ten, fifteen minutes. whatever the tommy as right

1:06:42

to try to pull that trade off. Let's

1:06:44

go inside the war room here for our

1:06:46

with money. Awesome for. And the

1:06:48

Arizona think was the Arizona Cardinals. Whoever whatever

1:06:50

seen it was what's the I'm try to

1:06:52

throw this trade together last second on the

1:06:54

flaw. In the draft run. this is really

1:06:56

cool stuff. Is.

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Going to Knack. For

1:07:05

you guys know. What

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you? what? is? Back.

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arrive. At

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only one for tiny one with was. Twelve

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thirty three. or ask for one

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for the next. Your first. At

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Houston. Or

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and unjust. I

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got it right. Okay,

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Here's here's idea: B Twelve. Thirty

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a twenty four first? For

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for three straight up. On

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aren't demeanor make that a twenty

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four Two and Ninety six Kendra

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one of I've. Taught

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him. Okay

1:08:36

work for it is incumbent upon Avon on

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okay for we wanted we were mad at

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well now we want to come on the

1:08:43

southern part of when. He

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read or hear the pecan Are you going is nearing

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with a gun or. Or our get it. Okay

1:08:51

so twelve the five right? Vegas, others

1:08:54

I know your Tv. Save Saturday and

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then send them. I start with start

1:08:58

Rule out below that on Atlanta is

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going to be something similar. some below.

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Our time seventy. So

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twelve to six. Store

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or Twelve and therefore for

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Sex and Salt Us Lake

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City combat. Just

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stupid anything. A List.

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like. A

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month Wizard of. Oz

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What we're thinking gas money or when

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he puts on the getting. Okay

1:09:40

so space on his on his biggest the on our

1:09:42

taught me what is those who. Does

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that even deal? Okay so

1:09:47

here's here's a here's what I what would it would deal

1:09:49

we like better the Detroit the able to Vegas do. A.

1:09:55

my heart of he used to to hear

1:09:57

what he will you of Yeah,

1:10:01

I think we'd do

1:10:03

34 and then we

1:10:06

would need something back. No,

1:10:08

we wouldn't do a 24-1. Get

1:10:11

out of here. Why don't you just take a look at what it would be.

1:10:13

Okay, thanks. Detroit?

1:10:21

Hey. Okay,

1:10:24

so 12, go ahead. 12, 34 and 168. 4,

1:10:32

6 and 81. Okay, calling in. Thanks,

1:10:35

Brad. Yeah!

1:10:40

Charlie. Hello?

1:10:50

This is Terrace. Hey, this

1:10:52

is Monty Osport at the Cardinals. How you doing,

1:10:55

buddy? How

1:10:57

cool was that, man? Wow. How

1:11:00

much time? How much time? Right,

1:11:02

yeah. And you noticed how many minutes I was like... How much time?

1:11:04

And all I could keep thinking of was... That's

1:11:07

what she said! Like,

1:11:13

seriously. I

1:11:15

love how he had a point, man, right? Get on

1:11:17

the board. All right, cool. Write down these offers. And

1:11:20

he literally called what was like four or five teams, right?

1:11:22

What's the offer? What's the offer? What's the offer? Now you

1:11:25

got it on the board. Let's compare them real quick. Six

1:11:27

minutes left. Clock's ticking. Go, go, go.

1:11:30

I love it. Absolutely. But

1:11:33

I know the fat, out-of-shape,

1:11:35

Caucasian man sitting on his couch

1:11:37

with the Cheetos stains on his

1:11:39

wadi-tadis, you know. He... What

1:11:42

a horrible bitch. Do

1:11:44

the voice for me, Jacob. That

1:11:47

was such a horrible bit. I

1:11:51

was going for more of the Italian approach, but... I

1:11:58

thought it'd be cool to kind of show that. Again,

1:12:00

just take you inside the war room. You absolutely

1:12:02

love that stuff We'll end it with this though

1:12:04

in Smitty says pull that pull that back

1:12:06

up for me. Jacob You don't care that one. There

1:12:08

you go In Smitty

1:12:10

said draft draft day rust ball as Jennifer

1:12:12

Garner, right? So we could last up for

1:12:14

you one more time Well,

1:12:24

that's what you get on this show that's So

1:12:30

anybody else got anything else? We're at an hour and

1:12:32

11 minutes the closer we get to the draft the

1:12:34

longer these shows go You

1:12:40

got nothing to know I was uh, I lost

1:12:42

that I thought I had oh, yeah This

1:12:46

would be kind of fun How about

1:12:48

a mock of who the Packers won't draft?

1:12:51

how about we maybe tomorrow we just do

1:12:53

a draft where we take kickers and

1:12:55

you know like Wide

1:12:58

receiver let's trade up in the first round for a

1:13:02

I think it's right. It's just

1:13:04

this draft like wide receivers running

1:13:06

backs. Maybe some I don't know

1:13:08

a lot of Lineman, let's do

1:13:10

it what I

1:13:12

think would be really really cool is if

1:13:16

we did a three round mock tomorrow since the

1:13:18

night before the draft and We could

1:13:20

pull up my horizontal board and literally take

1:13:22

them off as they come off like Tim

1:13:24

if you could work the draft itself You

1:13:26

know and I had my horizontal board taking

1:13:28

them off and we could kind of show

1:13:30

where there's gonna be a potential Opportunity if

1:13:32

goodies board looks like our board there would

1:13:34

be an opportunity to potentially trade up like

1:13:36

maybe if we do it The slow the

1:13:38

slow creep through the top ten or whatever

1:13:40

and you get to like pick

1:13:42

eight and you go Okay, these this position group

1:13:45

starting to fall Let's be ready around the 15

1:13:48

16 spot to potentially trade up or we get to 25

1:13:50

and trade back and show where these clusters Sit that would

1:13:52

be cool, too There's

1:13:55

a couple different directions we could go but also we

1:13:57

had a ton of stuff to talk about today, too

1:14:00

So there's there's a

1:14:02

lot to be just as much if not

1:14:04

more to talk about tomorrow, you know, maybe

1:14:06

this would be fun Could we do a

1:14:08

timer? Let's let's implement our own self timer.

1:14:10

You know what I mean? Mm-hmm. We

1:14:12

do that Yeah, we've

1:14:14

actually like we've been pretty luxurious at the

1:14:16

fact that we have to sit here and

1:14:19

decide who we're gonna pick but like we

1:14:21

talked about it's once the Once

1:14:24

the clock is a ticking your

1:14:26

brain starts a thinking I Think

1:14:30

she said Unbelievable

1:14:34

man Wash

1:14:37

your hands wash your butt man Me

1:14:41

a little why you laugh. Well, you know, that's the

1:14:43

rule when you come up for the draft All

1:14:46

right, Friday night We're gonna

1:14:48

have we're gonna have a ton of pizza. We're gonna

1:14:50

have cannoli's. I'm gonna try to get 30 cannoli's here,

1:14:52

bro We're gonna I

1:14:57

But again man before you step in the house

1:14:59

wash your hands watch it no, I'm

1:15:01

saying man We touching those canola's

1:15:03

without watching those grubby hands. That's the truth. I

1:15:05

know you've been handling those chicken cutlets Hey

1:15:09

I'll do it. They'd probably be covered in grease

1:15:12

actually They covered in

1:15:14

mulch. Yeah, you can mulch out of it

1:15:18

I'll just come straight from work All

1:15:21

right, let's get out of here anybody get anything else

1:15:25

It's good sport is just a picture of Bears

1:15:27

fans crying Hey,

1:15:29

they have four picks guys four

1:15:32

picks. Let's see what they do. Let's

1:15:34

see what they do Thank

1:15:40

you still good questions out there to Judy

1:15:42

says anybody else filled Get

1:15:44

the feeling Powers Johnson is falling. There haven't been

1:15:46

a lot of people talking about him. That's for

1:15:48

sure All right to us

1:15:50

at 25. That would be sick because you could

1:15:52

pop him in To write Gordon.

1:15:55

I think I'm right. No powers Johnson just plays center.

1:15:57

Right? What am I thinking? Yeah, let me see here

1:15:59

real quick Let me look at the board. I

1:16:03

was told that I was a psycho for picking magic. Magic.

1:16:14

All right, this is the fruit shirt, right? I'm feeling

1:16:16

fruity. Crazy,

1:16:22

man. Yeah, so Jackson

1:16:25

Powers Johnson, last

1:16:27

year, all of his snaps, 829

1:16:29

snaps for center the year before he played right guard.

1:16:32

So, might be kind

1:16:34

of cool if you could get Powers Johnson, plug him in

1:16:36

to right guard and then move him to center as

1:16:39

Josh Meyers exits stage left

1:16:41

next year. Digging. Yeah,

1:16:44

you guys remember when y'all made fun of

1:16:46

me for drafting a center in the first

1:16:48

round? Just

1:16:50

saying. I didn't make fun of you. I

1:16:52

know you didn't Clayton. You were one of

1:16:54

my friends. I'm a good friend. You can blow

1:16:56

it already. I'm

1:16:59

a good friend, but you see me looking earlier, Mandy

1:17:01

hid my beard somewhere. I was going to put the

1:17:03

beard on again. I can't run it anyway. So,

1:17:06

maybe we'll break it out for this. He's

1:17:09

probably fumigating it right now. Yeah, exactly. You

1:17:11

guys heard this at all. J. Cole. I

1:17:14

heard JPJ has an attitude

1:17:17

problem. I heard it on one of

1:17:19

these shows on Fox Sports. You

1:17:21

got to be careful with that stuff the week of

1:17:23

the draft. Like the DUI

1:17:25

wasn't fake, right? You

1:17:29

see that stuff and you're like, okay, that's a real, you know,

1:17:31

but the week of the draft, what happens is these

1:17:33

teams will start putting information out to try

1:17:36

to get guys to drop on the boards.

1:17:39

Now here's what I did hear about Jackson Powers Johnson.

1:17:42

One of his top perks and

1:17:45

it's in all of the scouting reports. The

1:17:48

dude is nasty. Like he's

1:17:50

willing to get in there and be that enforcer

1:17:52

in the interior. That's a good thing. That's

1:17:55

a good thing. Get that dude in there and bloody some

1:17:57

people up, man. I want somebody in the pit. That's

1:18:00

going to, I'm talking about cracks

1:18:02

and skulls, right? Other than

1:18:04

laying face down in the turf. Let me

1:18:06

ask you this, we've had Machwall on many

1:18:08

times. Y'all think he's got an attitude? I

1:18:10

think he does. You gotta

1:18:12

have it. And he said it didn't he, Emilia, like he

1:18:14

said, I step in the room with a bunch of offensive

1:18:16

linemen. I can tell who's got it and who doesn't right

1:18:18

off the bat. So that's

1:18:21

a good thing. That's a

1:18:23

good thing when it comes to offensive linemen. So, all right, let's get out

1:18:25

of here. My wife's going to kill me. Hour 17. Thank

1:18:28

y'all for hanging out with us, putting up with us, all

1:18:30

that good stuff. William Gould says he likes

1:18:32

the timer thing. Let's toss it around.

1:18:34

We may do a mock draft tomorrow. One final mock

1:18:36

draft and do it with a timer. That would be

1:18:38

a lot of fun. I could have my board ready

1:18:40

to go and just kind of fly

1:18:43

through. We don't have to go by my board, but that's

1:18:45

definitely what I will be kind of steering my decision towards.

1:18:47

I'm cool with it though. Yeah, so. All

1:18:50

right, we're out. Appreciate everybody hanging out

1:18:52

with us. Thank y'all for Tim, Emilia, Jacob. Thank

1:18:54

y'all for going over a little bit here, man.

1:18:56

This was a lot of fun. Again,

1:18:58

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1:19:01

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1:19:03

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1:19:28

the draft. It's going to be an absolute blast. So, guys, thank y'all

1:19:30

for your time. A lot of you listening on the pod. Thank

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you for making us a part of your day. As

1:19:35

always, let's go out and beat a change we want to see in the

1:19:37

world and go back. The power is

1:19:40

sweet. Actually,

1:19:42

it's the lead play

1:19:44

on our offense.

1:19:47

We got some wide ends or tight ends. We're

1:19:49

coming up somewhere between six feet and nine feet.

1:19:52

We've got an isolation with the linebacker. This

1:20:00

is the right. The

1:20:04

Wyant has the line back at Mega Mount. That's

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the right. The Wyant has the line back at

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the edge of the mall in the house. The

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looking for a tiny, steel head. Steel

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head. What a hundredth

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place. A heavy challenge.