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Why don't we start with quarterback? There's actually nothing
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massively interesting here, at least from
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my perspective as I go through
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all this, partially because
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it's quarterback and I don't super care. Interestingly
3:54
enough, though, the top quarterbacks are the top
3:56
quarterbacks. It's just the order that might be
3:59
kind of interesting. So the
4:01
top quarterbacks, by that I mean Caleb Williams,
4:04
Drake May, JJ
4:07
McCarthy, Jayden
4:09
Daniels, Bo Nix, Michael Penix, right?
4:11
Those guys. I'm including Penix and
4:14
Bo Nix because again the order
4:18
kind of interesting. Here's what I'll say based on
4:20
this. Sometimes you know this guy's at the top,
4:22
sometimes this guy's at the top. The
4:25
one guy that is consistently at the bottom of
4:27
the pile, Drake May. I
4:30
am really starting based on some
4:32
of the stuff I'm looking at to hope. My
4:35
whole thing before was like I kind of like
4:37
JJ McCarthy but I'm just going based off
4:39
what everybody else is saying about JJ McCarthy and
4:42
saying that I hope that you know that's who the
4:44
Vikings end up picking up. I'm kind
4:46
of the point now that I hope they pay
4:49
way more to come up and get Drake May
4:51
because I don't know that he's going to be
4:54
very good. So let me
4:56
just give you a couple things here. So they've got
4:58
a bunch of different metrics. One
5:00
of them is total points. Now this
5:02
is a cumulative thing but let's
5:04
just start with that. In order,
5:06
this is for all 20 quarterbacks
5:09
that they have through the draft. It
5:11
is Michael Penix, Bo Nix, Caleb Williams,
5:13
Jayden Daniels, JJ McCarthy and then Drake
5:15
May. Then they have a thing that is
5:18
what they call a rating which is points
5:21
per play on a scale from
5:24
50 to I think 100 or
5:26
99 or whatever. 99 is the highest you're gonna get. So the guys that
5:31
are 99 are Bo Nix, Caleb Williams,
5:33
JJ McCarthy and Jayden Daniels. Michael
5:36
Penix is a 98. Drake May
5:38
is a 96. This is the
5:41
total points rating for
5:43
passing. There are four guys that
5:46
are a 99. All of them are
5:48
considered first-round guys with maybe
5:50
the exception of Bo Nix who I freaking told you
5:52
Bo Nix is good man. Don't even listen. Penix is
5:55
a 98 so he's right there and then a 96
5:58
for Drake May. Then You've got... The.
6:01
Total rating which is passing
6:03
rushing whatever. Ninety nine for
6:05
Knicks Williams, Mccarthy Daniels. Michael.
6:08
Panics goes down to ninety seven, Drake
6:10
may still and Ninety Six. How.
6:12
But adjusted net yards per attempt. Pretty.
6:15
Solid metric for quarterbacks Jaden Daniels
6:17
number one, Twelve point four, bow
6:19
next eleven. Then Caleb Williams eight
6:21
point nine Michael Panics eight point
6:23
nine. Then Gg Mccarthy a point
6:25
eight. so get. All
6:28
all the top guys are the top
6:30
guys but number six is not Drake
6:32
may it's Jordan, Travis. other up as
6:35
you. It's. Not number seven that
6:37
Sam Hartman other Notre Dame. Then.
6:39
It's Michael Pratt out a two lane.
6:41
Then it's Drake. May. Completion.
6:45
Percentage over expected. I'll be honest, the thing
6:47
that shots anymore than anything is at the
6:49
top. Guys remain above everybody else you would
6:51
think randomly you know. Joe,
6:54
Milton or Jordan, Travis or somebody would be
6:56
the top guy or whatever. but. It's
6:58
it's. consistently so. Completion
7:00
percentage over expected. Nine percent for Bone
7:03
Nixon Jaden Daniels. Eight percent
7:05
for Jj Mccarthy. Seven percent for
7:07
Caleb Williams. And their number
7:09
five is Michael. panics at six percent.
7:12
Then at five percent it's Michael Pratt
7:14
and Spencer Rattler. And then at four
7:16
percent is break. May he's ace. Is
7:19
the only one that is not in consistently
7:21
with the pop group. Now. When
7:24
you get to on target percentage, that's
7:26
when it starts to get a lawyer.
7:28
weird bow. Nick still the top guy.
7:30
Then he got Spencer Rattler that the
7:33
Jaden Daniels is for Juju Mccarthy is
7:35
six. Caleb Williams is ten. Michael.
7:37
Panics is fifteen. Drake may as
7:39
nineteenth out of twenty. For.
7:42
On target percentage. Nineteen.
7:44
Out of twenty sixty seven percent of
7:46
his passes or on target. What
7:49
about catch a ball which is a lower. The
7:51
bar right is not on target but it's still
7:53
a catch a ball ball ball. Next is the
7:55
top Guy. Again, ninety one percent. Jaden
7:58
Daniels's for Caleb Williams. Five
8:00
Jj. Mccarthy is six. Ah
8:03
Michael panics is down here
8:05
at twelve Drake may fifteenth
8:07
again the lowest. What?
8:09
About Ie p a per
8:11
drop back Jaden Daniels number
8:13
one than bow next Jj
8:15
Mccarthy, then Jordan Travis other
8:17
Epa as you Then Michael
8:19
panics then Caleb Williams, then
8:21
Drake may dead last again.
8:24
I mean of the top group. And
8:26
they've got I Qr which is a passer
8:28
rating but it's as I as a reply
8:31
it proprietary passer rating. Bottom. Line
8:33
higher numbers are better. Okay
8:35
overall. Jaden Daniels number one
8:37
than it's bone next. Caleb
8:39
Williams Gg Mccarthy. Michael. Panics.
8:41
Then Michael Pratt, then drake me he's
8:43
not in the top group. Is.
8:46
Not in it. right? You get
8:48
the top guys all together again. Many.
8:51
Got Michael Pratt. Then. You got dragged
8:53
me. About under pressure.
8:55
Bow. Next Jaden Daniels, then John
8:57
Milton, Jake, Plumber, Michael Brats,
8:59
then Gg. Mccarthy. Then. Drake
9:02
may Michael panics is down at twelve
9:04
so he's actually lower. but again, Drake
9:06
may. Not. Up at the top of
9:08
the rest of the boys. Okay, but what
9:10
about if there's no pressure while then
9:12
it's train Daniels, then bowl next? Then
9:14
Caleb Williams. Then Michael panics, Then
9:16
Jg Mccarthy then drag me at the
9:18
bottom of the lowest. What?
9:20
About in Man coverage. Bow.
9:22
Next Michael panics chain Daniels,
9:25
Caleb Williams. Than
9:27
it's Carter Bradley. Bubble Bubble bubble bath.
9:30
Trade you. Mccarthy is nine. And
9:32
then Drake May is eleven. Out
9:36
of the top guys he is
9:38
dead last again. What? About
9:40
against Zone coverage Student: Daniels Bone,
9:42
knicks, Caleb Williams, Gg Mccarthy and
9:44
then Drake May he's ahead of.
9:47
Michael. Panics. Panics is maybe the only
9:49
guy you could argue. Would.
9:51
Be like a lesser selection, which I
9:53
don't disagree with. I was not a
9:55
big Panics fan, but just based on
9:57
the data here, panics as a better.
10:00
And then drag me. A. Speed
10:02
it up a little bit about on
10:04
short passes. Drake May as fifteenth out
10:06
of twenty. he's the lowest of the
10:08
top group. About passing middle of
10:10
the field drake me is seven. Years
10:12
ahead of Ah Michael panics. And
10:15
Caleb Williams. That's it. Calebs
10:17
Eight but Bone Extreme Daniels,
10:19
Jd. Mccarthy all higher. And.
10:22
Then deep passing Jaden Jj, caleb
10:24
bow next Michael panics and then
10:26
drag me. About rushing.
10:29
For. Fun yards per attempt: Jaden
10:31
Daniels, then Jg Mccarthy, then Drake
10:33
May who's actually six. He is
10:35
ahead of Caleb Williams and Bone
10:37
X and Michael panics. Was down
10:40
at seventeen but for current allowed
10:42
man could with least. Get.
10:44
Something in our favor here. He p
10:46
a rush ie p a. This.
10:49
Is. The best I've seen
10:51
of him. He's second behind Dream Daniels.
10:53
While. That. Actually got a
10:56
pretty interesting metric of never seen before. I.
10:58
Throw air time plus or minus.
11:01
Basically. It is looking at the distance
11:03
of the throw and then taking into account
11:05
the foot work at that time of his
11:07
release and looking at how long it took
11:09
to get there. And other words the the
11:11
shorter the time, the smaller the number the
11:13
better because it meant more velocity on the
11:16
throw. Gg. Mccarthy's number one.
11:19
Dude. Got a pretty strong arm, then number
11:21
fourth is Jane Daniels than seventh is break.
11:23
may me it's It's not even close how
11:25
much I want them to take Drake May,
11:27
partially because Jj is actually may be one
11:29
of the best course of a six year.
11:32
And. Then there's snap to throw time.
11:35
Which. Is obviously we're talking about. The
11:37
amount of time it takes between when you got
11:39
the ball snap to you and when you get
11:41
the ball out of your hand, lesser time is
11:43
better. Bone X is number one. Panic.
11:45
Says number six. Jj.
11:48
As number Ten. Game.
11:50
Daniels is fourteenth. Drake.
11:52
May his seventeenth Kayla Williams
11:54
dead last Probably not surprising.
11:56
twentieth. So. yeah folks
11:58
go ahead and let Drake May
12:01
go to the Vikings. I hope they pay so
12:04
much money and so much
12:06
capital to get that guy. As
12:09
for running back, this one's gonna be real quick
12:11
because there is one name, so the quarterback thing
12:13
wasn't necessarily the Zach Tommy thing. Could
12:16
go in a lot of different directions, but really the
12:18
goal of this is to just go through all the
12:20
stats and find a guy whose name keeps popping up.
12:22
As far as the big names go, Audrey
12:25
Estimé is the one that seems to kind of
12:27
hover toward the top more often than not. Of
12:30
the lesser known names or just of anybody, and
12:32
there are 27 running backs
12:34
listed here, the guy that
12:36
continually keeps popping up is
12:39
a running back who is currently consensus
12:41
256. He
12:43
is six foot one, 220 pounds, so that's great.
12:49
22 years old, which is perfectly fine.
12:53
He has, he plays for
12:55
a very big program. He
12:57
had an 87 PFF grade, an 89 rushing grade, 88.9
13:02
fumble grade, so he doesn't put the ball on the ground. In
13:05
2022, similarly, he had an 85 grade, 85 rushing grade, and
13:10
his RAS is an 8.07. I
13:13
have no idea why he has
13:15
not gotten more notoriety. Let's go through,
13:17
before we get to the name here,
13:20
let's go through some of the
13:22
statistics that I'm looking at. In terms
13:24
of total points, which is a
13:27
cumulative thing, but still, for a guy
13:29
who has significantly less
13:31
snaps, just for reference, Bucky
13:34
Irving is second in total points with 570 snaps, he
13:36
has 253, he's just one spot behind him. He
13:40
is third in total points
13:44
rushing. In terms of their
13:47
rush rating, which is the rating from 50 to
13:49
99, he
13:51
is number two behind
13:53
Keelan Robinson. Now, Keelan Robinson is like number
13:56
one across all these categories, but he hasn't
13:58
played. He played 64. snaps.
14:00
I wish I could remove him from the list, but
14:02
I can't. If you're interested in Keelan Robinson out of
14:04
Texas, go for it. But the sample
14:06
size is too small for me. He
14:08
is number one behind Keelan Robinson as
14:10
the highest rated rusher. Rating
14:13
overall, which is receiving, rushing, everything
14:15
else, he is number one with
14:18
96. Yards
14:20
per attempt, he ranks fourth. Yards
14:23
after contact per attempt, he ranks
14:26
second behind only Marshawn Lloyd. He
14:29
is tied for the fifth most touchdowns.
14:31
He is number three in EPA.
14:35
He is number one by
14:37
a large margin, not including Keelan Robinson, again
14:39
too small of a sample size. Number
14:42
one by a pretty large margin in EPA
14:44
per attempt. Number two
14:47
in boom percentage, tied for number
14:49
one in bust percentage, meaning the
14:51
lowest amount of bust plays. The
14:54
receiving doesn't seem super top tier. He's not really at
14:56
the top of any of the receiving lists, but
14:59
you look at some of the
15:01
positive percentages. Overall positive plays, he's
15:03
third behind only Bucky Irving and
15:05
Keelan Robinson, who again doesn't count.
15:07
On inside runs, he's number two behind
15:10
only Dylan Johnson of Washington. On
15:12
zone runs, he is number three
15:15
behind Audrey Estamay and Jawar Jordan.
15:17
On gap runs, he is number four
15:19
behind, well, three because
15:21
Keelan Robinson doesn't count, behind Garendo
15:24
and Bucky Irving. Fumbles
15:26
per touch, he's tied for number
15:28
one with zero. Fumbles per 100
15:30
touches. Broken tackles per 100
15:33
touch, he is second behind
15:35
Marshawn Lloyd. Who is this
15:37
great mystery man? His name is Kendall
15:39
Milton running back out of
15:41
Georgia. The only real
15:43
negatives I can see, number one, is
15:46
again the receiving isn't necessarily a prominent
15:48
part of what he does. And
15:51
number two, even though
15:53
his RAS was quite good, it was all
15:55
based on his size and explosion, the speed
15:58
was okay. He runs a 4-6-2,
16:01
which it's not fast and I'm sure that's
16:03
gonna plummet people through the floor, but again
16:05
I think we overweight things like 40 yard
16:07
dash time and his short shuttle was a 4-3-8,
16:09
which is a 4-3-2
16:12
out of 10. Now, is it
16:14
possible that it's just a massive Georgia
16:16
offensive line that's making him look good?
16:18
Maybe. I don't know. That's not really
16:20
we're getting too deep into it now.
16:23
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right, so for wide receiver, it's gonna be a little
17:45
bit more like quarterback in that there seems to be
17:47
a recurring group that
17:50
Sort of keep showing up here, and it's probably not
17:52
the group that you would necessarily expect.
17:56
There's just a couple recurring names. So
17:59
first of all, First of all, let's just skip to
18:01
the total rating. This is the 50 to
18:03
99 thing. This is just total
18:05
across everything that they do, which is mostly
18:07
receiving. One of the names that is very
18:09
much a recurring name that a lot of
18:11
people are going to love, because his name
18:13
has just exploded, is Lad McConkie.
18:16
He is at the top or near the top of
18:19
a lot of these lists. Of
18:21
the people that are at 99 though,
18:24
Troy Franklin, Roman Wilson, Marvin Harrison, Malik
18:26
Washington, Malik Neighbors, Lad McConkie, and Brennan
18:28
Rice. Not Roma
18:30
Doomsday, not Brian Thomas Jr.,
18:33
and Xavier Worthy is dead last. Continuing
18:37
on though, as we see some of these names
18:40
are repeating. On
18:42
target, catch percentage. So ball
18:45
is right on the money, how often do you catch it? The
18:47
only 99% is Terrell Vaughn. 98%
18:49
is Taj Washington. Now
18:52
Taj is a smaller guy, probably
18:54
not going to be a packer, but it's
18:56
worth noting he is at the top
18:59
or near the top of a lot
19:01
of these lists along with Lad McConkie.
19:04
After that is Jermaine Burton out of Alabama. Catchable
19:07
catch percentage. In other words, the ball is
19:09
good enough and you should catch it, how
19:11
often do you? Lad McConkie is tied for
19:13
number one. He's tied with Marcus
19:16
Rosemeat Jacksaint, also out of
19:18
Georgia, and Terrell Vaughn.
19:21
That's per route run. Number one is
19:23
Malik Neighbors. Number two, Lad McConkie. Number
19:25
three, Taj Washington. And then number four,
19:28
Troy Franklin, another name that has popped
19:30
up again. So those are,
19:33
Malik Neighbors is 3.9, the other three guys are at
19:35
3.7. Again all
19:37
the big name wide receivers that you're well aware of
19:39
are on this list. Marvin Harrison is
19:42
the next one down. Roma Doomsday is
19:44
10th. Brian Thomas is 16th.
19:47
Unique routes, which is a really interesting statistic because
19:49
there's a lot of talk about like they had
19:52
a limited route tree or whatever. How many unique
19:54
routes did they run? Jacob Cowing is number one
19:56
at 44. And
19:58
then again, Terrell Vaughn. Another name that
20:00
seems to be recurring, 42. Yards
20:04
after the catch per reception, number two
20:06
on the list, Taj Washington. Broken
20:09
plus missed tackle rate, third
20:11
place, Lad McConkie, fourth place,
20:13
Taj Washington. Yards
20:15
per target, Taj Washington number one,
20:18
Lad McConkie number three. EPA
20:20
per target, Lad McConkie number one,
20:23
Brennan Rice number two, Taj Washington
20:25
number three. Positive play
20:27
percentage while in man coverage.
20:29
Troy Franklin number one. Another
20:31
name that's relatively common. Brennan
20:33
Rice number two. Lad McConkie
20:35
number four. Positive versus
20:38
zone is about the only one I've seen that
20:40
has some list that seems kind of close to
20:42
what you might expect. Malik Nabors number one, Brian
20:44
Thomas number two, Roman Wilson number
20:46
three, Lad McConkie number four. As
20:48
far as I can tell, McConkie is the only one who
20:51
is in the top five of positive
20:53
play percentage in both man and zone.
20:56
So again, Taj
20:58
Washington, probably not a
21:01
packer. Lad McConkie, it's
21:05
worth discussing. Again,
21:07
I would love to have found a deeper
21:09
dive, a deeper cut than
21:11
that, but I think that's perfectly adequate,
21:13
especially considering how good these guys are.
21:16
And again, how many times did I mention Marvin
21:19
Harrison? I'm not saying he's better than Marvin Harrison.
21:21
I'm just saying it's worth mentioning when even a
21:23
second round guy, because there's got to be 15
21:26
guys in the first two
21:28
rounds that are wide receivers. To have one
21:30
or two of them consistently pop up, that's
21:33
pretty impressive. And then again, Brennan Rice,
21:35
Taj Washington, also worth mentioning. Maybe
21:37
a little bit Troy Franklin as well. All
21:40
right, offensive tackle is next. There's a couple
21:42
names worth talking about here. So
21:44
first of all, if we don't
21:46
talk about, for example, the top guys,
21:49
the Marius Mims dominates a
21:51
ton of categories. If we draft Mims
21:53
today, we can come back and revisit
21:55
that. Let's see,
21:57
who else? Joe Alt is at the top several
21:59
times. Even Jordan Morgan, I think
22:01
is a relatively early potential first-round guy that
22:04
doesn't necessarily need to put out talked about
22:06
Fuega, etc. If
22:08
we eliminate those names the guy
22:11
that shows up at the top
22:13
most often the top five The
22:15
most maybe even including these guys is
22:18
Delmar glaze out of Maryland So
22:21
let's go through a couple of the categories
22:23
that he's very high in total points pass
22:25
blocking. He's second This is out of 28
22:28
offensive tackles in this draft class total
22:31
points overall. He's second Rating
22:34
while pass blocking is a 99 out of I think 99 He's
22:38
one of only four to hit that mark
22:40
along with a Marius Mims and Joe Alt
22:42
and Patrick Paul in run blocking
22:45
He has a 95 out of 99. He's fifth
22:50
overall fourth It's
22:52
a Marius Mims Jevon Foster Jordan Morgan
22:54
Delmar glaze and then Joe Alt Blown
22:57
block percentage when pass blocking. He's
22:59
the fourth lowest blown
23:01
blocks when run blocking He's
23:04
the second lowest ahead or behind only
23:06
Jordan Morgan I think the only
23:08
real negative here is one of
23:10
the other positives and that is when you
23:12
look at the splits between zone and gap He's
23:15
not as good in zone as he is in gap.
23:17
For example his gap yards per
23:19
attempt. He's third He's
23:22
27th in zone. So
23:24
that may be something to keep in the back of your mind But
23:26
still Very very
23:28
good in a lot of different categories when he was
23:30
run behind what percentage of the time was he run
23:32
behind? 39 percent percent
23:35
that's second highest some other names to keep
23:37
an eye on Blake Fisher
23:39
out of Notre Dame six times. He was
23:41
in the top five Jevon
23:43
Foster out of Missouri six times. He was in
23:45
the top five Katie Leviston
23:48
out of KSU and Tylan
23:51
Grable out of UCF also Roger
23:53
Rosengarten was four times But he's
23:56
kind of also potential first round and it wasn't that
23:58
many times so you might not be worthy putting
24:00
on this list, but Delmar Glaze
24:02
is number one followed by
24:04
Blake Fisher, Javon Foster, KT
24:06
Leveston, and Tylen Grable. On
24:09
the interior offensive line, there's two guys
24:11
that stand out aside from, for example,
24:13
Jackson Powers Johnson, who I think maybe
24:16
has the most top five appearances here,
24:20
but that is Charles Turner
24:22
III out of LSU and
24:26
Xavier Gadlin
24:29
out of Liberty. I said what I
24:31
said. So total
24:34
points pass blocking, Turner makes
24:36
it, total points run blocking, let's
24:39
just say Gadlin is number one. Overall,
24:42
Gadlin is second behind only
24:45
Kyle Hurdle using the
24:47
rating system, which is not cumulative,
24:49
it's per snap. In pass blocking,
24:52
Charles Turner is fourth, run
24:54
blocking, Charles Turner is fourth, and Gadlin
24:57
is third. Overall, out of
24:59
99, Charles Turner is a 97, he's fifth. Blown blocks,
25:04
pass blocking, and this is out of, by the way, 43
25:07
interior offensive linemen, Charles Turner
25:09
is the fourth lowest. Run
25:12
blocking, blown blocks, Gadlin
25:15
fourth lowest. So you can
25:17
kind of see the divide here. Gadlin
25:20
is a top run blocker, Charles Turner the
25:22
third is a top pass blocker. So you
25:24
kind of have an idea which way we
25:26
should be glancing
25:28
perhaps. However, when you
25:30
look at zone yards per attempt,
25:32
so this is still rushing, but
25:34
in zone schemes yards per attempt,
25:36
Gadlin is number one. I'm just
25:38
saying it wouldn't be the worst thing in the
25:41
world. Positive play percentage in
25:44
zone, Charles Turner is number
25:46
one, Gadlin is number
25:48
three. Positive play percentage
25:50
when run behind, Charles Turner is
25:53
number one, Gadlin is number three.
25:56
EPA per attempt when run behind, Charles
25:58
Turner is number two, Gadlin is
26:00
number five. So Turner,
26:02
I think has a little bit of an
26:05
edge here, but still Gadlin pops up as
26:07
a top five guy a ton. Charles
26:09
Turner right now is consensus 270. Gadlin out
26:11
of Liberty 352. Plenty of
26:14
opportunity to grab these guys. Interior defensive
26:21
line as we switch to the other
26:23
side. Not
26:26
super surprisingly Byron Murphy and Jerzon
26:28
Newton are near the top.
26:30
I'm going to remove those guys. After
26:33
that, the guy that shows up
26:35
I believe the most is Darius
26:37
Robinson out of Missouri. Now I'm
26:39
slightly skeptical only because he was
26:41
primarily used or at least compared
26:43
to these guys largely used
26:46
as an edge rusher. So some of his pass
26:48
rush stats are a little bit higher, but
26:50
I will mention that although again I think
26:52
he's a potential first-rounder. Then there
26:54
are two other second round
26:57
guys. Braden Fisk is at or near the
26:59
top of a lot of these lists. It
27:01
is one, two, three, four, five, six, seven
27:03
different times he's in the top five and
27:06
Michael Hall is also relatively
27:08
high on a lot of these lists.
27:11
However, for the sake of being interesting, a
27:14
little bit more of a deep dive. The only other guy
27:16
that shows up is another guy that might
27:18
be somewhat of an edge rusher, but who cares we're going to do it
27:20
anyways. It's a man by the
27:22
name of Jamri Chroma out of James
27:24
Madison. Again, probably inflated because he's
27:27
considered an edge rusher by a lot of different
27:29
people, but he sits at 353 on the consensus
27:31
board. In fact, he's one spot
27:34
behind Xavier Gadlin,
27:37
but if you're not interested in that, I mean
27:39
it's really just the first and second round. I would
27:41
say Braden Fisk and I'm a little bit biased because
27:43
I do really like Braden Fisk, but
27:45
that would be the guy that I'd be most excited about.
27:48
Otherwise, Darius Robinson certainly is intriguing. I've been
27:50
sort of anti-Darius Robinson, but only because I
27:52
watched him purely as an edge rusher and
27:55
I don't think he is an edge rusher.
27:57
At least I can't make it work.
28:00
mentally. I've been trying to
28:02
come around to Darius Robinson because I think it's possible the
28:04
Packers could draft him in the first round. In fact, I
28:06
know it's possible, so I'm trying to
28:08
brace myself for that a little bit, but
28:11
nothing massively exciting here. It's just first
28:13
and second round guys for the most
28:15
part, and like I said, also Jerzon
28:18
Newton and Byron
28:20
Murphy were pretty dominant in these
28:22
categories. Ed Drushers, if
28:24
we remove the top guys, which in this case
28:26
are really just Chop Robinson and Latu, we've
28:29
got presumed second round
28:31
pick, second third-ish round pick,
28:33
Adisa Isaac out of
28:35
Penn State, and then a little bit
28:37
more of a deep dive, Muhammad Kamara.
28:40
So a couple areas where he shows up. First of all,
28:43
SAC EPA, negative numbers are better.
28:45
He ranks fourth with a negative
28:47
24.6 EPA. Total
28:51
EPA for him is a negative
28:53
31.6. He's fifth overall. Pressure
28:56
percentage, 20% for
28:58
Muhammad Kamara, that ranks fifth. When you
29:00
look at pressure percentage plus
29:02
or minus expectations, he's second
29:04
with 12%. If you
29:06
look at true pressure rate, which they
29:09
define as pressure rate that isolates straight
29:11
dropbacks, which are more likely to be
29:13
similar across situations, this removes RPOs, play
29:16
actions, and screens. He is
29:18
third. He has a true pressure rate
29:20
of 25%. His RAS, by the
29:24
way, is a 7.99. So technically
29:26
it's in the sevens, but you can round that
29:28
bad boy up to an eight and say he's
29:30
fine. And really it's just his
29:32
size that ends up being very poor.
29:34
He's 6 foot 1, 248,
29:37
but he has elite speed, great explosion, and
29:39
okay agility. It's just, again, the size was
29:41
the one thing that got knocked as far
29:43
as RAS. Linebackers are really
29:46
nothing here. Jeremiah Trotter and
29:48
Edron Cooper are the two guys whose names
29:50
really pop up quite a bit.
29:53
Obviously those are pretty well-known names. The only
29:55
other guy that shows up a decent chunk,
29:57
which is four times, which isn't a ton,
29:59
but whatever, It's
30:02
more than all the other guys that we've heard of that don't show
30:04
up four times. But David
30:07
Ogwobu, Ogwobu,
30:11
out of Houston. But positive
30:13
play percentage in man coverage. He
30:16
is second behind Curtis Jacobs. He's
30:18
third in positive coverage
30:20
percentage total. So positive play percentage
30:23
while in coverage. He's
30:25
third behind Jacobi Windman and
30:27
Curtis Jacobs. If we
30:29
go over to pressure,
30:32
blitz percentage, he's number
30:34
one. He blitzes more than anybody else. I didn't put
30:36
that as one of the things he's a top up
30:38
because it's not actually that, it's
30:41
not about his value, but it is an interesting stat.
30:44
But then also tackling, the third
30:46
least broken plus missed tackle
30:49
percentage, David Ogwobu,
30:52
ahead of or behind only Easton
30:55
Gibbs and Jacobi Windman. And
30:57
lastly, the ATD, adjusted tackle depth
31:00
plus. So it's how
31:03
far behind the line or whatever compared
31:06
to expectation. Was the
31:08
person tackled? He is second behind
31:10
only Edgerin Cooper. So somebody else
31:12
to keep an eye on. David
31:15
Ogwobu out of Houston, currently
31:17
consensus 358 on the consensus big board. At
31:22
corner, we've got quite a few individuals
31:25
to talk about here. The
31:27
first of which is cornerback Cam Hart
31:29
out of Notre Dame. First
31:31
of all, he is 6'2, 207 ish. Actually,
31:34
let me get the official here. He has
31:36
a 9 RAS, so that's a
31:38
bonus. He is 6'3, 202 pounds, so even
31:40
better. Out
31:46
of, we got what, 50
31:48
different corners here. He
31:50
was top five, six different times.
31:54
Kamal Haddon out of Tennessee, five
31:57
different times he was in the top five. He has a 7'4, 8'4.
32:01
And at consensus pick 223, it's
32:04
not as though that would be
32:06
disqualifying for any reason whatsoever. Cam
32:09
Hart is sitting at consensus 110. So,
32:11
you know, within range starting
32:13
probably round three, maybe even round
32:15
two, considering friggin' what the Packers
32:18
did last year. Somebody that I'm not
32:20
as worried about, I'm kind of happy about
32:22
it because I really was not a
32:24
huge fan of theirs, but they showed up a ton. Is
32:27
Kamari Lassiter cornerback out of Georgia?
32:31
The reason I say that is he's probably
32:33
a relatively supposedly early second round prospect. He
32:35
had a 6-2-4 RAS. Fingers
32:39
crossed that the Packers just are not
32:41
massively interested in Lassiter as
32:43
early as he's about to go. But
32:45
that brings us to maybe the most intriguing process,
32:47
maybe of this whole thing. Considering
32:51
we're talking DB, which our defensive
32:54
coordinator is a DB coach, cornerback
32:56
coach, who came from
32:58
Boston College, there's
33:00
another corner who showed up on this list 1, 2,
33:02
3, 4, 5,
33:05
6, 7 times, who
33:08
went to Boston College and
33:10
has a 8.96 RAS. 6'1",
33:13
185 pounds, really one of his only knocks
33:16
is that he's 185, which isn't even that small, to be honest.
33:20
And that's Elijah Jones. If
33:22
we look at the overall rating, again, the thing
33:24
out of 99 in coverage, he
33:27
is the third highest behind Cam
33:29
Hart in Dwight McLothern. McLothern, excuse
33:31
me. If you look
33:33
at overall, their ratings out of 99, there
33:35
are three corners with a grade of 99,
33:38
Terrienn Arnold, Nate Wiggins, and Elijah Jones.
33:42
By the way, and again, this did not go
33:44
into how many times they were top five
33:46
because it's not a quality thing, but it
33:48
is interesting to know percentage of the time
33:50
playing man coverage, Nate Wiggins, Cam Hart, another
33:52
guy to keep an eye on, Daquan
33:55
Hardy, Johnny Dixon, number five, Elijah
33:57
Jones. Not surprisingly, he went to
33:59
Boston College. but still. Total
34:02
EPA negative
34:04
21.9 second highest
34:06
or lowest I guess in this case
34:08
behind only Quinnan Mitchell. EPA
34:11
per target second best behind
34:13
only Cam Hart. Deserved
34:15
catch rate, Elijah Jones third
34:17
lowest. So deserved catch rate
34:20
essentially is we're looking at how many times
34:22
a cornerback gave up a catch but we're
34:24
also not going to give you credit if
34:26
they drop the ball or if it's overthrown
34:28
or whatever. In other words that should
34:30
have been a catch. How often does SIS
34:33
look and say yeah that should have been a catch because you
34:35
suck? 46% of the
34:37
time for Elijah Jones which is the third lowest. Positive
34:40
play percentage, how often when he's targeted
34:42
is it does it end up being
34:44
a positive play? 22% of
34:47
the time third lowest. How
34:49
many yards does he give up per snap
34:51
in zone? The only one with zero is
34:54
Elijah Jones. Positive plays
34:56
in zone. Elijah Jones is number one
34:58
11%. Now he's not as good in
35:00
man but still we're talking like maybe
35:02
the best zone corner in here who
35:05
has a lot of man experience. So
35:07
I think Cam Hart and Elijah Jones absolutely
35:10
are guys to keep an eye on. Outside
35:12
shot at looking at Kamal Hayden by the way
35:15
out of Tennessee and that leaves
35:17
us finally with safety. I'll
35:19
be honest this one's my favorite because every single
35:21
one of these guys that's left on this list
35:24
and it's crazy how many times they should I
35:26
mean they must be top five in like every
35:28
category. First of all Tyler Neuben. One
35:31
two three four five six seven eight nine
35:33
times he's in the top five out of
35:35
however many categories I don't know. I
35:38
didn't count but it's freaking crazy. That's
35:40
a lot. So let's go ahead and remove Tyler Neuben.
35:42
We know his name. I think most of
35:44
us like him. I know his RAS wasn't good. I
35:46
like Tyler Neuben. I'm on record saying
35:48
if we take him in the first round I'm not
35:50
gonna be mad. You can say that's not a good value
35:52
that's fine. Certainly would be happy based on if he's
35:54
second round whatever but I like him
35:56
but still let's get him off here. Aside
35:59
from that Here is a list of guys
36:02
that showed up.
36:04
I mean, I guess this is only three times I'll take him off,
36:06
but I want to say his name anyways. Let
36:08
me just give you the list. Evan Williams, Jevon
36:11
Bullard, Malik Mustafa, Sion
36:13
Vahki, Trey Taylor, and Ty Key
36:15
Smith. Most of these guys
36:18
are guys that I liked based
36:20
on, first of all, just watching them play. But
36:22
second of all, these are the guys that are
36:24
good compliments for the Green Bay Packers. They're
36:27
hitters, man. That's what they are. They're
36:29
tacklers, they're hitters, they're frickin' killers. Let's get
36:31
rid of a couple of them, though, because
36:33
they don't show up necessarily enough, especially since
36:36
some of these guys show up so
36:38
many times. Let's get rid of
36:40
Jevon Bullard. I'll get rid of Evan Williams on top
36:42
of that four times. Vahki
36:45
is also four times. I'll get rid of him. But
36:48
these three are ridiculous. Ty
36:51
Key Smith out of Georgia, one,
36:53
two, three, four, five, six, seven,
36:55
eight, nine times. And yes, this
36:57
is a good fit. Trey
37:00
Taylor, who's very kind
37:02
of far down the list, but I think a lot of Packer
37:05
fans have latched on to him, myself included. One,
37:08
two, three, four, five, six, seven,
37:10
eight, nine, ten times he's in
37:12
the top five. And then
37:14
Malik Mustafa, who I like not
37:16
love, but you absolutely understand the
37:18
physicality. One, two, three, four,
37:20
five, six, seven, eight, nine times he's
37:22
in the top five. Let's go
37:25
through a couple of these just so we can see.
37:27
There are 30 safeties, by the way. Apparently some of
37:29
them just show up never. All
37:32
right. Ratings while in coverage. Ty
37:35
Key Smith is second. Oledapo
37:37
is third. Not on the list a lot, but I'll give
37:39
the nod to Oledapo. Tyler
37:41
Nubin, fourth, Eric Johnson, fifth. Rating
37:44
while in run defense. Ty Key
37:46
Smith, number one. Malik Mustafa, number
37:48
two. Trey Taylor, number three. That
37:50
surprises nobody. I
37:53
really don't think it surprises it. And I like
37:55
all three of them. I think Ty Key Smith
37:57
would be fantastic. Mustafa again. lukewarm
38:00
but if you want like an okay
38:03
guy that can just do that job and just hit people,
38:05
I think he'd be great for it. Total,
38:07
Ty Key Smith number one with a
38:10
99, Trey Taylor number two 97,
38:12
Ola Dapo 96, Evan Williams
38:15
94, Malik Mustafa 93. So
38:17
that's the rating 50 out of 99. Just
38:20
their proprietary like how good are you, whatever.
38:23
Some stats not necessarily having anything to
38:25
do with the top five but just for our own,
38:28
so we know. Slot usage,
38:30
Ty Key Smith is the second highest 74%.
38:34
In the box percentage, Jayden
38:38
Hicks, who again I'm not a
38:40
huge fan of but he's one of those guys, Bo Braid
38:42
who I do like 33%, Cole Bishop
38:44
who I like 32%, Sion Vaki 26 and then Trey Taylor
38:48
26%. Blitz percentage,
38:51
Ty Key Smith is second and then we
38:53
get to actual quality, how good are you?
38:55
Pressure percentages. In the top five,
38:58
Trey Taylor who is fifth, 50% pressure rate.
39:01
Sack rate, what percentage of the time when you
39:03
pressure do you actually sack the quarterback? Trey Taylor
39:05
is number one 33%. Yards
39:08
per target in coverage, Ty Key Smith third.
39:11
The great thing about Ty Key Smith and
39:13
a lot of these guys are really good at
39:16
stuff. I mean, let's check, Trey Taylor
39:18
is fourth, Malik Mustafa is fifth but I mean the
39:20
cool thing is a lot of these are coverage stats.
39:22
I look at Trey Taylor and I'm like, I don't
39:24
know what he can do in coverage but this dude
39:26
will kill some people and granted he plays for a
39:29
smaller school but Ty Key Smith doesn't,
39:31
he plays at Georgia and you look at him and
39:33
say, I think he'd be a good strong safety and
39:35
I'm telling you he's dominating all the coverage statistics. He
39:37
also has four interceptions and zero
39:40
dropped interceptions. Just saying. EPA
39:42
per target, Trey Taylor number one
39:44
ahead of Tyler Nubin, Malik Mustafa
39:47
comes in fourth, Ty Key Smith
39:49
fifth. All of them are negative. In
39:51
other words, when you throw at me, it's
39:53
going to be bad for you. Negative
39:55
point five for Ty Key Smith, negative
39:58
point five seven for Malik Mustafa. negative
40:00
point seven five when you target Trey
40:02
Taylor. Positive play percentage
40:04
again. What percentage of the time
40:07
is it positive when you throw at me? Tychee Smith
40:09
31 percent is fifth. Malik
40:11
Mustafa just 25 percent. He's
40:14
third. Tyler Neuben number 120 percent.
40:16
Deserved catch rate. Malik Mustafa ranks
40:18
fourth. Trey Taylor fifth. Yards
40:21
per target in man coverage. Trey
40:23
Taylor is third. Malik Mustafa
40:25
fourth. Trey Taylor fifth. Positive
40:29
play percentage in man coverage.
40:31
Malik Mustafa number one. Trey
40:33
Taylor number two. These are
40:35
man coverage guys. By the way, Cole
40:37
Bishop four. Tyler Neuben five. Kaitlyn Bullock
40:39
third. I mean this is written in
40:41
stone, man. How many times did I
40:43
say Jackson Turner's name? How many times
40:45
did I say Oladapo's name? How many
40:47
times did I say Miller Bradford or
40:49
Thomas Harper or Jalen Simpson or
40:52
Imani Johnson or Alex
40:55
Johnson or Dejaun Anthony
40:57
or even Bo Braid who
40:59
I like? I mean there's so many guys,
41:01
none of them cracked the tie. Cam Kinchens.
41:04
How many times did I say that guy's name? I mean he was
41:06
a couple times in there that I just didn't say it but
41:08
maybe twice he was top five. I
41:10
mean and again if you want to discount
41:12
Trey Taylor because he's a smaller school, fine. But
41:14
you can't do that with Tychee Smith. Even in
41:17
positive play percentage in man, he wasn't top five.
41:19
He was sixth. I just
41:21
I mean if you already liked these
41:23
guys like him more if you didn't start liking
41:25
him and I think Tychee Smith is really not
41:27
a lot of excuse. He doesn't have
41:29
an elite RAS at seven four three but
41:32
let's see where is he expected to get
41:34
drafted. He's 126. We're
41:36
talking about possibly a fourth round pick and
41:38
he runs a four four six. I mean the only
41:40
real negatives is that he's five ten. He's
41:42
202 so he's not small. He's
41:44
just a little shorter and his short shuttle
41:46
was slow but I mean overall
41:49
it was poor size, good
41:51
explosion, okay agility and great
41:53
speed. But again you're going to give
41:55
me that in the fourth round or how about Trey Taylor? He's got
41:57
a 933 RAS. So
42:00
he can talk about small school, but he's got the agility.
42:03
He's 6' 213 pounds with great
42:05
agility, good speed, good explosion. He's
42:09
consensus 213. He's a seventh round
42:11
pick maybe. And Malik Mustafa has an
42:13
almost identical RAS at a 9' 3' 9". He's
42:18
similarly to Tychee Smith. He's 5' 10",
42:20
which is really his only knock, but
42:22
he's still 209 pounds. He's
42:25
a big, thick dude, and he looks like it when he goes
42:27
out and plays. He's a short, broad
42:29
fella, but he's got okay
42:32
size, good speed, and elite
42:34
explosion. He's consensus
42:36
129. So right
42:39
around Tychee Smith. In fact, it's just
42:41
three spots behind him. Now, would I
42:43
take Tychee Smith over Malik Mustafa? Probably.
42:45
But either way, you can be either of these
42:48
guys in the fourth round, maybe throw in a
42:50
Trey Taylor kicker in the seventh. Oh,
42:54
come on now. Come on
42:56
now. Anyways, I should
42:58
probably stop and get this posted for you. It
43:00
has a little bonus episode. I
43:03
will leave it at that. I'll talk to you all later. Have
43:05
a good one. Bye-bye. This
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is the Zach Tom
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43:25
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43:31
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43:57
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