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Page 94, the private eye podcast

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episode

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of page 94. My name

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is Andrew Hunter Murray. And this time

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we are going to be a little recap

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on the former

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conservative party treasurer. and now sir

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had shelagh a who has had all

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sorts of interesting adventure since the last time we spoke about him

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will be speaking to the eyes richard brooks

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about that in a moment will

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also be speaking to adam mcqueen

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for a special jubilee edition

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of the podcast very exciting

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late this latest edition of the edition featured

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seventy glorious covers in

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a piece we are calling the ascent

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of man for a platinum

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jubilee bumper as youths so will be speaking

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to adam about that later but first

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aired select now sir and had

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show like there were all sorts of concerns

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about donations that mr

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select as he was then had made to the

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conservative party before becoming the

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conservative party treasurer the

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person nominally responsible

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for all their fundraising in ,

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twenty nineteen richard brooks appeared on pace

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ninety four and disgust some of those

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questions queries concerns about

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myths are like business activities he

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has been in the news again since then

1:14

at has cropped up quite recently not only

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in private eye but also the pages of the new

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york times very swiss so

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we thought it was time to get richer back on and ask

1:23

what mister show like now so i heard

1:26

has been up to since then his richard

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two things really is no longer treasurer of the

1:30

tory party he finished his term

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he's now also sir

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a hoot sure like neither

1:38

the arrived after he gave three point

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six million pounds to the tory

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party and he was knighted a nut

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trees amazed dissolution honest

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list will dissolute on his list

1:49

as some people call him and since he got his knighthood

1:51

he's given about nine thousand pounds for a party

1:53

ticket which isn't to grateful other thing

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three dropped off yeah yeah shame i'm in

1:58

the last time you covered in really substantially

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the i was in roughly march twenty

2:03

nineteen and i think than i was that olson

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so slightly dispiriting see the only

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of yeah it's the reverse cursive

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name again yeah exactly

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okay so the so i had celexa

2:14

had shelley we now know what has he been up to

2:17

in the last three years he must have found time since he

2:19

still being treasurer well and the last

2:21

three is is carried on being the

2:24

, owner of the house in art

2:27

gallery gallery mayfair

2:29

i'm not sure if you've been there but if you have you

2:31

have quite a few

2:33

andy warhol tight prince

2:35

and various other more

2:37

contemporary artists of well

2:40

questionable artistic merit

2:42

i would say but you know that's a dining

2:44

lawn gnome doesn't employ me as an art critics

2:46

so i'll leave it there he ,

2:48

said called bit more money off to then

2:50

and to the go as nice as a say in them twenty

2:53

twenty and he's basically continued

2:56

running the gallery the pandemic of

2:58

as he wasn't kind to art galleries but the

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in there is evidence that we reported

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have some very dubious furlough claims

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by the company we had

3:07

completely contradictory explanations

3:09

from them as to whether they were employing

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people and still

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, and paying them further same time

3:17

lots of sources saying they were so

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that in look good he's taken quite a bit

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of taxpayer support but otherwise fairly

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quiet on the select from until

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a , months ago when we

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reported some fairly

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serious concerns from within please

3:34

bank which did date

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back a bit too when he was giving money

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to the tory party and a source told

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us that there was real consternation

3:43

in the bank about the source of that money

3:46

and that it was connected to his father

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in law

3:50

those his father in law is only one year older

3:52

than him but we can maybe get onto that

3:54

in a minutes he's a former ukrainian

3:56

government official and that his name sergei

3:59

capito

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and he had he had also has a pretty questionable

4:02

background he now has substantial interests

4:04

in hotels in crimea but

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he was fifteen years or so ago

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he was a ukrainian government official in the interior

4:11

ministry then he became a

4:14

minister in the

4:16

crimean administration

4:19

the crimean parliament which was ten

4:21

before the twenty fourteen annexation

4:24

when that particular parliament was under control

4:26

of the party of the regions which

4:28

was the the party

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are run by yanukovych

4:35

who was the inner unceremoniously

4:37

booted out following the modern

4:39

protests and is

4:42

now hold up in moscow somewhere

4:45

there we have this show like sorry sir

4:47

i heard a who has connections with and missed capitals

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and discipline reminder for listeners who may

4:52

not have gone back and listen to a march twenty nine teen

4:54

episode of the fall into this one

4:57

and there were concerned about the sources of the

4:59

money at the time so it's halcyon as

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you said rang companies in singapore

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hong kong shanghai which were buying and selling

5:05

off from the uk company

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or of house in the uk brunch with as it were

5:10

see apparently to be delivered to overseas customers

5:13

but they were discrepancies in the numbers halcyon

5:15

claimed that the

5:17

uk branch was buying tens of millions of

5:19

pounds with an art every year from singapore

5:22

that money wasn't showing up showing the singaporean

5:24

accounts that's rather worth some strange

5:27

discrepancies and there was also say that of art

5:29

trading been done in the uk through

5:32

these offshore companies so there was a lot

5:34

of you know what circumference

5:36

would euphemistically called tax planning going

5:38

on on i was just one one

5:41

speak to the house him business that we reported

5:44

on from the other was dealings

5:46

that some chalet candice partner

5:48

pool green had with some very dubious

5:51

characters out in russia

5:53

and so even at the time there were

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questions about where the millions

5:58

of pounds and total that the show like as

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he was then had donated to the conservative

6:02

party where that money might be coming from because there are

6:04

obviously rules about where money

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in donated to political parties isn't allowed to come

6:09

from i think that might

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bring us back to mr copies of now

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yeah and this is something of the new york times as be

6:16

picking up but that youth also been on the trail

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of can you tell us about that and of a mojito yeah

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well it turns out that the the concerns

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that have been expressed to us by the source

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a couple and that we reported a couple of months

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ago about mr coffee shops money

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were very well founded because a

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couple of weeks ago james bradley

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who's the new york times reporter in london

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got site holes a

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what's called a suspicious activity

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reports from barclays

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bank to the national

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crime agency in the uk these

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reports have to be made were bankers are

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suspicious that the

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money they're being asked to handle might

6:55

be a bit iffy and they

6:57

might be in danger of becoming

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involved in money laundering and this suspicious

7:02

activity report which we've gone

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into a bit in the in the latest

7:06

issue described

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, a convoluted flow of funds

7:11

thirsty from copy toss to

7:13

said egg and his his

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kopitar daughter and then how that sort

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of ping between various accounts

7:21

and accounts the selig

7:23

family trust and family was lent

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again to said egg before

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he donated a big

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chunk of it for about four

7:32

hundred fifty thousand pounds to

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the conservative party so that's what the new

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york times exposed

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and he have it's kind of the a

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strange that's a couple

7:43

of months ago there was this was the

7:45

big story in the country is strange

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my a russian money coming in because of them

7:51

once once russia invaded term

7:53

ukraine everybody got interested in it again

7:55

but this single the incident

7:57

really dwarfs or kind of things that

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we're getting very often or under the collar about

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then it's you nice absolutely huge

8:04

not only did does shed a

8:06

the and eight four hundred fifty thousand pounds in

8:09

february twenty eighteen but three

8:11

months after that

8:13

having received remember to and a half million dollars

8:15

from copies of in may

8:17

twenty eighteen he gave he gave

8:20

seven hundred and fifty thousand pounds though

8:23

you know we're getting pretty close to

8:26

the bulk of that to and a half million dollars by

8:28

now it's so is does appear that

8:30

huge amount of money comes in from this very

8:32

questionable character in ukraine

8:35

, and then very

8:38

large amounts go into the conservative party

8:40

coffers and , to be clear

8:42

if mister colbert of a tried to make that donation

8:44

himself he wouldn't have been on and is that

8:46

right now that's right this is what the saw

8:49

says that the suspicious activity report

8:51

that you know one of the reasons they were

8:53

concerned was because because

8:55

will be illegal for money to come from

8:57

someone who's not on the uk

9:00

electoral roll what can be

9:02

done next to a the prove

9:04

or disprove this claim this mean it's entirely

9:06

possible that he sums of money it's a completely

9:09

unconnected it just has commenced to be that

9:11

us the money goes from have to go out to mr

9:13

selig and them from his deselect a different amount

9:16

as you know different completely you yeah

9:18

different think the

9:19

the regulators the electoral commission

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ought to take a look at it take a judgment and

9:23

i think they are you

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know cause if you will to talk about criminal

9:28

offenses you will oversee

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have to prove that or you know beyond reasonable

9:32

doubt but in terms of the

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regulatory offenses i'm

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not sure you would need to and i think

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they really ought have a look at this and say come on if

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we can't say this there's no

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and unallowable donation then what can

9:45

we say is is it it would just be too

9:47

easy oh you would have to do

9:50

is put money from a foreign donors into an

9:52

account with at least that much money in it already

9:56

then pass on the same amount but

9:58

say a similar amount but say that

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wasn't the money that came in that was the money that was already

10:02

in the accounts right you know in the money

10:04

that i'm getting from borders actually just you know filling

10:07

up my account all that

10:10

, pay my shopping bill or whatever

10:13

yeah i'm using that for that different reason the

10:15

tourney

10:16

possible indication as to why

10:19

these might have been made you

10:21

can understand why must select matter wanted to donate

10:24

the conservative party poppers are

10:26

almost all parties ,

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have made enormous enormous

10:30

to the party and almost all of thing going

10:32

to be knighted think it might be all

10:34

become lords at the royalists

10:37

a bit unlucky he's unlucky kind

10:39

of exposed a bit

10:41

before he's got to that stage and done if

10:43

he will make the red benches

10:46

yet that

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account i'm not sure why woods

10:54

We don't know you, you can only speculate

10:56

and you can very quickly get into conspiracy

10:58

theories. But you

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had

11:02

absolutely no interest

11:06

until he started giving large

11:08

sums of money to the Tory party in 2017,

11:11

decided for

11:13

some reason you wanted to get into politics of

11:18

Treasurer, which is more of a sort of honorary

11:20

title that I

11:22

am holding any work and then

11:25

came the Knighthood.

11:27

I'm not questioning note stating

11:29

that any particular has

11:31

broken a law in general.

11:34

Just as cash for runners. That's

11:36

what it is. You give the money roll.

11:40

Treasure troll. Then

11:42

you can get the owner for services to

11:45

politics politics,

11:48

but

11:52

why did he want to become so? prominent

11:54

and next of to party why did he want the knighthood

11:56

in the peerage was that to gain some sort

11:58

of influence is there something really dangerous

12:02

hear something about

12:04

russian influence we don't know have

12:06

you been in touch with or sarah hoods representatives

12:09

about this yes

12:10

No recently. I was want to go fuck.

12:12

I think I didn't used to get straight onzas

12:14

in touch with mister copies off

12:16

a

12:18

retard. public

12:21

servant the he is yes he is

12:23

just a retired pensioner is what he called

12:26

himself even a owns lot

12:28

since they're expensive hotels

12:30

and guess multimillion dollar gifts

12:33

reminds , a bit of fun hyman roth

12:35

in the godfather to remember he used

12:38

when asked what he was doing

12:40

by the f b i said i'm just said retired

12:42

investor living on a pension he

12:45

was evasive maffia kingpin

12:48

but we're not going to say that any of these papers anything

12:50

like that probably for the benefits such

12:53

as hoot sell eggs weiss

12:55

is lillian who

12:57

is sergei kaput toast daughter

13:01

she's thirty years younger than

13:03

sir a hoot and a former

13:05

miss ukraine i mean i don't

13:07

know whether we want make the point

13:10

that time normally the

13:12

sugar daddy arrangement works the other way round

13:14

san he , the money

13:16

where is he getting the money in this arrangements

13:20

and these matters these having raised haven't they

13:22

in they british parliament they

13:26

have quite a long time ago a

13:28

labour mp stephen king it raised

13:30

our stories about and who'd senate because

13:33

those so much on him back then and

13:35

he got knocked back by the

13:37

chairman of the conservative party that time

13:40

brandon louis in quite sort of

13:42

almost threatening terms brandon

13:44

roy said you want to be careful cause some

13:47

this , be libelous unit you might get

13:49

sued and by the way we all want anybody

13:52

looking at all the labour party's contacts

13:54

would you so you know he got what

13:56

you could kind to call kind to bullish response

13:58

from brandon is a hoot

14:00

has his party chairman must have had some

14:03

kind of role in civics appointment

14:05

and then after

14:07

they're who'd became say a hoot in

14:10

the early twenty twenty he

14:12

gave brandon louis ten thousand pounds

14:15

thank you very much when don't drink any connection

14:17

whatsoever between no news is just pumping

14:19

the the national the only connection is

14:22

very short space of time

14:26

i didn't mean anything that equals conspiracy theory

14:29

of course ah yes but i don't know why brenda

14:31

louis needed ten thousand pounds or what he did

14:33

with have some should ask

14:38

well i think i'm looking at them and is meant to be asking is that

14:40

point is an hour ago my list

14:43

read your book there and on current showing you will be

14:45

able to to that again in july

14:47

twenty twenty five to find

14:49

out what so ever did next we'll

14:51

have made into the house of lords we don't know

14:54

now we turn to a rather

14:56

happier stories the platinum

14:59

jubilee of queen elizabeth second

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known to private i read as as brenda

15:04

the greatest on the front cover of this week's edition of private

15:06

ice and it's not the only time she

15:08

has featured that in fact this week's

15:10

edition of the magazine features

15:12

a gorgeous supplement features beautiful

15:15

he put together with seventy

15:17

times together queen has appeared on

15:20

the pages of private i write for

15:22

nineteen sixty two the very

15:24

first time all the way up to

15:26

up present day so it's

15:29

been seventy gloria his i spoke to adam

15:31

mcqueen who are as well as all

15:33

of his work obviously on the street of shame and other

15:35

bits of the mag is the ice constitutional

15:37

historian if you like now at maybe

15:40

seventy covers that were running at this week's magazines

15:42

but actually she has appeared on the front page of the

15:44

make a little bit more than that hear that

15:46

i'm to explain it but the queen has paid of

15:48

hundred seventy nine different covers

15:50

of private eye over the six

15:53

de anda beats years that we've been

15:55

in circulation or tell you that the two

15:57

people had about two people who have had a more covers

15:59

than her majesty yesterday alone this

16:01

is fun i am i would guess margaret

16:04

thatcher hang

16:06

on all good again i guess how many covers

16:08

oh eighty five ninety

16:11

seven

16:12

right now i had she's she's right there

16:15

in front of everyone else as one person

16:17

between her and the queen kitty guess and

16:19

off it's

16:22

gotta be and i say another the under to say tony blair

16:25

are you all very good very good bot can

16:27

you guess and if you think about this you will be able to guess how

16:30

many covers tony blair has a pet who

16:33

are mighty for a survey

16:35

jeffrey surface one of many many

16:37

many reasons why five i should never put thirty

16:40

level discover as a result amazing

16:43

, so that's and well as very respectable third place

16:45

the queenie i'm looking through

16:47

the and listen to the supplement a the magazine some

16:49

of them are referencing stories to the south street

16:52

i don't have got almost no idea what no mean

16:54

different things but some

16:56

things but very

16:58

you know still very guess bledsoe very

17:00

relevant so conservative it about the first time

17:03

she was on the catholics i do like this on while amazingly

17:05

she was the first person ever to speak

17:07

a photo bubble so spate of me on

17:09

the of improv i it was v

17:11

rt sister disinfect very nice and sixty

17:14

two and a looks very very different you'll see

17:16

this in supplement with but i with the magazine this way it's

17:18

got a different ball said on a it's got a very very different

17:20

looks with but i have got that photo bubble

17:22

coming out the royal coach and eat

17:24

this is one that these a little bit of context because

17:27

the yeah the headline on his principles a nation

17:29

whites are and print cells then

17:31

aged thirteen which seems sort of of

17:33

just as unbelievable is that the queen's been on for over

17:36

seventy years have a the idea that that pencils

17:38

was ever a teenager has been rushed

17:40

to hospital for an emergency appendectomy

17:43

having be nice from dammit appendicitis wealth

17:46

at boarding school asset bubble is coming

17:48

out of the royal carried in all his palms and

17:50

i'm on and ceremony as he goes to i think piccadilly

17:52

circus is great ormond street games

17:54

and step on a is impeccable impression

17:56

that lovely that ring as if

17:58

you're looking for new yorker of zelda

18:00

the young people young queen now which is why doesn't

18:02

count as as as they will have a familiar with with

18:04

i mean so many appearances

18:06

as the i'm just wondering i know obviously

18:09

the

18:10

the attitude of the from or that generation

18:12

service never complained never explained as any

18:14

of them has prompted any complaints

18:17

ah rebukes blowback lot

18:19

of i'm guessing now lawsuits but

18:22

not for the palace now let's not smoking

18:24

is over the years on an ongoing thing

18:26

that still write up as seventy years

18:29

into a rain and into the twenty first century you still

18:31

get letters from readers complaining on

18:33

the most recently about our our coverage

18:35

of prince philip's destined funeral and

18:37

, as you people whose address and are outrageous

18:40

just as a sandwich in a way i

18:42

think because i'm prince and it was

18:44

such a kind of fall on connoisseur of the

18:46

of the tasteless joke himself i think we we

18:48

we probably have thought he have a better reception

18:50

with those than that the might get in certain

18:52

circumstances but this is not the dates to ponder

18:55

the circumstances of know in terms of stuff

18:57

in the palace nothing at all right

18:59

up until a couple years ago where there was one

19:01

item in the slumped and column which got

19:03

us an official rebuke from

19:06

not from the queen on on on post ah

19:08

if of the from from a spin docks

19:10

at the palace but the colossus mcmahon because

19:13

and post from the palace does arrive on very

19:15

very expensive for station i'm is still is

19:17

now my system since the officer or it's almost

19:19

like vellum parchment by the do the queen's speech office

19:22

but he also had his own and are not

19:24

unless i but postmark on it and that's a royal

19:26

postmark across the some new system

19:28

profits to see how many went to a about it appears

19:31

that any eat a post on to meet

19:33

our to to tilt of lucky because i'm kind of flunkies

19:35

i'm handler flunky hum stuff

19:37

over to me in a dead letter drop ins and james's park

19:40

that's not actually true flunky being

19:42

i'll roll correspondent friday listeners yes yeah

19:44

autopsy our top secret man inside

19:47

the palace exactly

19:48

that all women i should say inside how the settlement

19:50

facilities at a sitcom

19:53

ah yes i know time cause with the last until

19:55

you have this moment before you haven't even get of is is this

19:57

it is this the order to attend the palace am i going to get

20:00

added better at night with a was fortunately

20:02

just a wins which went in on the letter states but that

20:04

as far as i know is the the only

20:06

time that they have ever complained or ever

20:09

will embrace him to explain looking back you

20:11

can kind of guess which ones might have prompted

20:13

more complaints than

20:15

others so when

20:18

harry comforts queen in nazi route

20:20

they do the budget of the queen forming a nazi salute

20:23

or the other about size prince harry leading

20:25

ever and whispering just tell them you were

20:27

pissed that must have process even

20:29

thought of a counterpart suits to the couple

20:31

weapons are himself or the yeah that that the

20:33

nazi uniform that was his excuse to a fancy dress

20:35

party in , the middle

20:37

to system we have something to power as a prince

20:40

harry upset the harry potter that's artists

20:42

i think of how a prince harry had made it a person

20:44

who can transform to into the meantime to assist on

20:46

thinks he's getting up to that points are and

20:48

we did we didn't put prince area with other we put a

20:50

hitler on the cover cover say hi

20:53

thomas prince harry our tasteless joke

20:55

special about that wasn't my best to the queen

20:57

the messy feature on that one but i can have them

20:59

something i think is really so when you look back at

21:01

the yeah that at the tobacco be said for nearly

21:03

all of the queen's right is how

21:05

much he seated on the cover but had

21:08

little she's actually seated in signed in mean

21:10

there's always an endless sylvie krenz battles

21:12

and diane are and and thirty are all the other

21:14

members of other royal family and as family little

21:16

philosopher some paraphernalia around the royals

21:18

in the more minor roles and fit but

21:21

the queen herself is is quite source

21:23

of hard to parody she

21:25

got hot tap to the voice of under craig branded

21:27

with absolutely brilliant attempts at it for with

21:30

golden jubilee in two thousand and two where

21:32

she where he did this wonderful diary of the queen basically

21:35

members her family of edward an andrew coming into visit

21:37

her in a will also be some sort of must settle come

21:39

far has been an invasion

21:42

of invasion hassle to be delighted to see dogs and horses

21:44

which effectively which think he knows absolutely gatos

21:46

the queen and everything we know about

21:48

when about set but because she says so little

21:51

because she basically husband sixty husband say nothing but

21:53

have no comes off as not as if

21:55

it's quite so hard to get a voice but the the

21:57

winningest visually the affection

22:00

story i seek immediately recognize which is perfect

22:02

for the cover in that way unit eg doesn't mean no

22:04

question isn't it did not summer school police cafe

22:06

going to be long and guess but also she

22:09

does effectively is posed for photos

22:11

that's what you know she will turn up and she will obligingly

22:13

you know how the machine gun well

22:16

stuff is the army barracks so he can we can

22:18

put that on the cover off to the a diana power

22:20

armor interview with has a i didn't think a divorce

22:22

will be necessary or see will have

22:24

a that's what he saw me what my see see see some plunging

22:26

the handle or not i assume site

22:29

kind of am tnt exams are

22:31

just a nice are

22:33

we chat with chat with we taught in i think too much

22:36

at solving and is very busy endless he does the

22:38

set of genes that just absolutely perfect

22:40

for brought out the only other person whether this

22:42

this was wisdom was boris johnson

22:44

and his days as mayor of london managed to bludgeon synopsis

22:47

any sort of photo opportunity that have have

22:49

have a caption put on it but that's essentially

22:52

unite know what what what provides them with the

22:54

quincy lend themselves to photo bubbles and to

22:56

covers but we still unknown when

22:58

i don't know if anyone has ever quite quite quite

23:00

have to the boys you have to take it off into slot the

23:03

real flights of fancy rather

23:06

than do a straightforward you i mean you couldn't do so to

23:08

pay a bill letters about the queen for instance

23:10

or anything like that

23:12

edited a thing of the covers of the seven

23:14

to cover that you've run out of seventy nine that and featured

23:16

her about ten of them are from

23:18

the state have any apartment which is

23:20

just about the longer time as he's speaking at

23:22

any length or in public including

23:25

not very first off from nazi sixty four lot of

23:27

at that point the was made on on a mighty sixty

23:29

four when she read the first a speech

23:32

about how with as labour government of sight out of involvement

23:34

am i went with the i have a bubble at

23:36

a healthy well as i didn't write this crap

23:39

six percent of liquid down

23:41

but not level and i think which with with which which with

23:43

with a few of a few complaints of the time

23:45

but some the i am on a subset setting

23:47

the tone quite early on for prada as well coverage

23:50

of i absolutely do you

23:52

think it's still has the power of

23:54

prompts complaints

23:56

the know you and i don't see the left betas know to say

23:58

some like dress is amazing the sub

24:00

editor royle coverage

24:02

or any less mother's day due to get still

24:05

from same kind of outrage show some things

24:07

that state happened was a recent funky peace

24:09

with one of the papers royal

24:11

editors and very naughty the above

24:13

the same go out by far the i took a photo

24:16

off and put up on whole do that you

24:18

, rather than actually going on getting a source healthy

24:20

just for his fear one of our system cervantes

24:23

but the number of people who practice and the thing

24:25

that they were really really upset about those

24:27

that age old when quite a joke

24:29

as i mean thompson be the seventies but

24:32

that tradition or calling the queen when

24:34

does does in a sense of

24:36

dread exactly and people with really really irate

24:38

with particularly twitter users in

24:40

america to america it's magazine

24:42

used to disrespectful sam

24:44

to work to to to add to apply to a modestly

24:47

with it he was just like me a bit less businesses

24:49

in isis businesses won a trip

24:51

up with a a suit repeat

24:53

rid of the got so used to it we will write that new

24:55

people coming in went went went get who were talking

24:58

about mad when we talk about render about how

25:00

long has been ravaged subs it's frankly to

25:02

me seems the saxena because only started reading

25:04

the magazine what the late the really naughty so

25:07

it's just always do their part of it is entirely affectionate

25:09

his name is one of those kind of papalia make

25:11

the jump that you have brenda from bristol the nuclear

25:13

reactors has the are they the elections

25:16

a ton of i sort of fight comforting old lady named

25:18

so many a to eat them and solve

25:20

his to is naturally a brian amount

25:23

of a society form of these these these are lots

25:26

of prices though not nicknames that provide

25:28

made up itself these these were really for

25:30

identified i'm in the seventies as

25:32

as as ones that were floating i will be used in the palace

25:34

bought by courtiers themselves yeah

25:37

i'm in that would that with are plenty of others with never quite go on

25:39

in the same way so princess

25:41

margaret was apparently refer to their below stairs as

25:43

if on which is on a lovely

25:45

as out of sixers else is very much an event that's

25:48

our when princess diana's end up in

25:50

a in a nineteen eighty one she was for to is cheryl

25:53

which are like i'm never gonna real life which never

25:55

quite got on with and it's a when when

25:57

harry met and first it's guess it apparently called

26:00

the limited a much more up to date was caught him referring

26:02

to them within the palace as an as chandler

26:04

and monica because , sits on

26:07

a perfect perfect perfect

26:09

at that point especially with them

26:11

but notice average an avid so that that that that

26:13

that works is only a bit more of a descent

26:16

kind of closed source of the couples by that's

26:18

that's the one that everyone's caligula is

26:20

their favorites queen cover that

26:22

he has out of the selection i

26:24

really really like the trump royal

26:26

visit one where this is one of those examples

26:28

of a of her obligingly posing

26:31

for for things that can be revoked his brother thinks in

26:33

signing some sort of book of his his book i guess

26:35

and she's diktat my hat and then

26:37

and and looking very very regal but it was a week that

26:40

them it was an enormous fishy going online

26:42

soft on from when presidents of

26:44

is in britain and and and you've got the city

26:46

to signing mistaken hand in hand them to

26:48

think that one has to draw the line somewhere

26:50

sounded like i think it isn't enough

26:52

of this useful source of have a feeling it's probably

26:55

true them it's membership at this point in a rangy

26:57

privy to the line at meeting anyone smith sick

26:59

of missing since then several hours per

27:01

cent of was particularly some that was good

27:03

but a lot of things arm of the are

27:05

at a didn't actually make it to the cover they were fighter

27:07

bombers that paid appear inside and it was on a series

27:11

do remember off to princess diana died when they're

27:13

with these the these kind of efforts to modernize the monarchy

27:15

and magazine appear on of a bit more hip

27:17

and with it and then them most people's princess

27:20

doesn't work as a but the people's that he pulls queen

27:22

and that was a wonderful ones in that way that

27:24

that was she was so disgusting football with

27:27

with with people and saying only a cop like

27:29

it's the up from i'm not as a nice one

27:31

of her i'm behind the bar the and i we are

27:33

not one of the sky substance which is putting a point to

27:35

pay six hundred looking have gotten him

27:37

and out and me i had a bubble coming out of a method

27:39

said i

27:43

, those as as as as as much what about

27:45

of her receiving a posey at a comma looks like

27:47

it's the i pad and she's to sex lucky one has

27:49

a death has others them

27:51

professionalism speaking my mind the city with as

27:54

an is an again that sort of

27:56

affectionate because they're parody what was absolutely

27:58

ridiculous exercising

28:00

the place adam mcqueen the and

28:02

if you'd like to see more ways that the queen

28:04

has been engaging with the youthful

28:06

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28:09

from the nineteen sixties right through to the present

28:11

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28:15

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