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All right , welcome to the Paradigm you Podcast

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. Lisa and I are here today to

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round out 2023

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, as we reflect on how

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our partnership has come full

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circle in the past six months . You

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know we started out about six

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months ago , about halfway through 2023

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. But , quite frankly , we started

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this journey far sooner

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or far longer than in

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what was it June or July , Lisa .

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Yeah , yeah , we kicked off , I think officially in

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June .

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Yeah , but this has been coming

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for a while and brewing for a while , so

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it wasn't a surprise when we were

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ready to go . It was go time . But

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on today's episode , we want to share

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with you , our listeners , all

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of you , all around the world . Lisa

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, can we actually just do a shout out ? Yes

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, we have some really , really

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dedicated listeners in

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some amazing countries all around the

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world and I just want to say thank you to

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everybody who's listening . It's so fun

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to see and to look up some of these

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towns and countries .

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Yeah , absolutely . We are so grateful

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for you listeners and please keep listening

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because on my bucket

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list moving forward , I really do think we

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need to like travel and take this on the road . That'll

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be fun .

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All right . So on this week's

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podcast , we are going to end

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the year on a high note , and

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that is reflecting on

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where our partnership hit , the

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journey where we've gotten . So

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, lisa , tell me a little bit about what do you

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think when you reflect on our partnership

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, what are your thoughts ? What are your

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?

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reflections , so

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many great thoughts and reflections , but you know , the

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first real main takeaway that comes

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to mind is just

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the big fear of

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ruining our

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friendship on any level . It

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just was something that I

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was adamant that I did not want to

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have happen , and you're

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such an important person in my life personally

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and it was so exciting , as

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you've already mentioned , that we've

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known that we were going to work together at some point

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in our life . We just weren't clear

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on when . So when the opportunity presented

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itself , it seemed like , yep , absolutely , let's

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just kind of clear the air

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and make sure we are good , because

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number one priority is always going

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to be my friendship with you . So

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you know , and I think that's a common

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theme that people have , especially

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solopreneurs , other coaches , consultants

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, freelancers there's so many great

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opportunities to partner , to

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expand , to have

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community with someone on a regular

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basis and not just always go

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it alone . But I do think there's a big

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fear attached to it , and

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for us to be able to recognize that

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and equally start working through that in

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hindsight was super empowering and

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, dare I say , almost laughable now , because I

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feel like it's brought us closer .

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Yeah , you know , I wouldn't be surprised

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if our listeners have

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some of that fear as well . You

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know , for years I've had

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that fear with partnerships . Years

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ago , actually , I had gotten the feedback

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or the advice don't partner

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with somebody unless you absolutely have

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to , and I find that interesting

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. Yeah , that was , you know , early on

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in my first business goes and

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you know , for the longest time I really fought

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that and then what happened

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was quite a few years ago I

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found the opportunity to partner

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with my first investment

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partnership and we did

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that strategically because we each brought

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different , unique things to the table

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, and I think what I've learned

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is that when you find those

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right people that bring

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unique things , that compliment

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the other person , it's a game

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changer . You can go so much farther

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and faster and bigger and better

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that it just changes everything , and

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I feel like that was the same for us .

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Absolutely , and I would . I would also say

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that you can , by extension

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of what you shared you , you can make a bigger

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impact on the people you serve and

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on the world in general , and that , I think , is

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what's so exciting for me .

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I won't lie to our listeners

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. It's been a learning curve , especially

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for the two of us , because we

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we did have such a beautiful relationship

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prior to deciding to partner

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. We did .

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Wait , where are you going with this ? Well , we did

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, but you're making it sound like we don't anymore

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. Oh no .

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I totally , I love you . I'm so joking with you .

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Now you're getting in my head . You should see your face .

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I'm like wait what ? But no

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, honestly , you know what I think is the coolest part

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, lisa , is that we've been

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able to shine a light on

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where the other one excels . And

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also I don't know if you can say

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the same , but I know for me it's

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been really , really

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a beautiful gift to have somebody who

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I respect and I adore , and

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I think is brilliant to call me out

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on my crap . Yeah , because

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when you're a solopreneur , when you're working

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on things on your own , you

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can hide in that or get lost in it . But

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when you have somebody who holds you accountable and can

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call you out and be like hold on , yeah , yeah

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, are you showing up as your best version

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of yourself ? Ooh

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, you can't hide from that . I can't hide from

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you .

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No , no , you can try , and

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absolutely vice versa . I

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do think , going into

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a partnership , it is critical to have some of

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these foundational questions and

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really vet each other out , based on what you said

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before . But I do believe that is

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part of what has always made our relationship

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great and we're seeing it

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become very fruitful on the business side

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, which is , we can ask each other

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the hard questions and it's not personal

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for us , right

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Like I don't take it personally when you call

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me out on stuff , I think , while she loves me enough

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to call me out to

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let me grow , and that's pretty

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cool .

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Oh , I do love you enough to

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let you grow . It's been really

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fun . You know , listeners , I will

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say that this is probably more of a vulnerable

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and intimate conversation and podcast

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than we've for some of the other ones , because

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we're really pulling back the curtain and we're

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being honest with you about the

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adventures and the challenges

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and everything in between

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that we've navigated for the past six months

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. And , interestingly , you know , we

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asked you on one of the previous episodes

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who did you intend to be

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when you started 2023 ? And

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how are you rounding out the

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year ? And it's it's

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fun to ask ourselves

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those exact same questions . We don't

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just speak to you and then say , good luck , you

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guys got to figure this out . We're

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walking alongside you on this journey , and

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one of the things that I had set my

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intentions on at the beginning of this year was

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to align myself with people

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that I could collaborate with to help

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me grow and step into that

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next level of myself . And

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boy , I will tell you , it

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was terribly intimidating when Lisa

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and I decided to sign on to do this together , and

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we're still working through a lot of the unknowns

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and we're still figuring out a lot of things , but

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I can tell you that , with open communication

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and also knowing what

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you want out of the relationship

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and also celebrating what

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you can bring to the relationship , it's been really fun and

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the coolest part just really quick and then I will totally

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hand it over to you . But

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the coolest part , you guys , is I

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get to see this

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beautifully brilliant woman

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shining so bright . I get

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to watch her speaking to

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people in our Elevate Group coaching

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cohort and

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just witnessing her amazing

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skill sets , and

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that , I think , has probably been my favorite thing

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.

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You are amazing and you're going to make me cry

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. Thank you for that . I'm

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receiving it all and

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equally , it's been amazing for me

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to sit back and just see how amazing

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you are with strategy

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and coaching and connecting

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with people . You have this deep

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innate ability that

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you clearly have honed through

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years and years of training

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and expertise and it's so cool

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to see how that radiates

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and just the frequency

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and the energy that you bring . So

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I appreciate everything

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you bring and I equally feel like I'm reflecting

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you right , like I feel like we got some

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energetic reflection going on here .

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Yeah Well , thank you . I appreciate that

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. You know one of the other things

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. If you are listening and you're like , ooh

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, maybe on 2024

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, maybe that's my year to partner and

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to link my harness with someone

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so I can go farther and faster

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and have a bigger impact than

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I could if I was on my own , here's

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what I can tell you . You have

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to know yourself and you have to know

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where you want to go and what

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you want to do . But , equally , one

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of the cool gifts that I think

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was unexpected for me was

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this opportunity to lean on each

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other . When life gets hard , life gets

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busy , you know , when you're going

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alone , the

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buck stops with you , and so

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for us , we have young kids

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. So if we have a kid that's

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homesick , for example , or if

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we have something that happens in our personal

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life , if we were doing this on our own

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, everything would pause , yeah

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, but when we link our harnesses

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and we can lean on each other , it

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allows us to keep going .

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Yeah , absolutely

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.

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You were talking about white space the other day

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. And I think this partnership

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has also created that . Do you want to talk a little bit

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about that ?

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Yeah , and I would say that's one of the biggest takeaways

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. As you were , you transitioned

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us into it so beautifully this idea

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of white space and in marketing language

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, white space is a term that's used

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especially amongst if you're selling

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to female females

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at all , or female entrepreneurs , white

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space becomes a critical component to your overall

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design because , as women , we

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like things that have a little white space . But

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there's also this idea you

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can take that philosophy and apply

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it , overlay it in your life or

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in your business and really just allow

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for space . Not

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everything needs to be scheduled back to back to back

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to back to back . You don't have to cram

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more in , and I felt like

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, to a lot of degree , that's what's

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happening with solopreneurs . People are wanting

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to do more and be more and

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grow more , and that's amazing , and I

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think there's so

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much dreams and visions that can be actualized

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. But

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I do believe in what I've seen with

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our partnership and , equally

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, just taking a completely different approach to

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business through our partnership

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. White space , this

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idea of allowing yourself

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to breathe , allowing yourself to have

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a little bit of extra time , really

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is what's going to catapult you forward . It's learning

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how to do less better . It's

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learning how to be in this messy middle . We

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don't have all the answers for

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every single piece of

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the direction of the business moving forward , but

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we have the critical ones and we're

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in it and we're figuring it out

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right . We're in the arena

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, as Brené Brown likes to talk about

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, and we're fighting to figure it out together

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.

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So this idea of white space

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and really taking

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action to find the answers

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, I find just so

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refreshing to have , to

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your point , a partner alongside

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you know , Leigh , it's cool

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that you say that , because I don't know if you remember

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this , but a couple years ago

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and gosh , I wouldn't be surprised if

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it was like 2019

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, maybe 2020 , I

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was in a rough spot

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and at the end of the year

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I said I'm going to go on a

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little quiet retreat on my own and

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I am going to just map

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out my whole year , and

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so I had bought a big calendar

13:06

for the whole year . Do you remember this

13:08

?

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Yes , I just love you and your

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calendars . It's

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just so much joy .

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Yes , I do . Yeah , and

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what I the cool part was I think

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I don't remember if we had zoomed together

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or what we had done , but I feel like we

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were kind of along the same journey or we

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were kind of mapping out our year together in

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parallel , because we weren't partners back

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then . But one of the

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cool parts that I think you were the one who

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actually nudged me to do this , because

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I was at a season of life where I needed to

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do a lot of healing , yeah , but

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I was also a recovering

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overdoer and I was trying to

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figure out where did this ? how

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does this all work ? And so I very clearly

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remember mapping out on my year calendar

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, actually putting

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posts on certain days and saying

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this is the day that I'm going to

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go to Reiki , this is the day

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I'm going to just take a personal

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day . And I did that for

14:06

the whole year and I knew like , ok , well , for

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Reiki , for example , I like to do that

14:10

at least once a quarter . So I

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went through the whole year and picked out those

14:15

days in December

14:17

for the next year and

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I will tell you , having the

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white space carved out . For the whole

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year , I did vacation days

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, I did everything that allowed

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me . When I look back at that following

14:29

year , it must have been the winter of

14:32

2020 , because it was 2021

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. I had so much more

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productive

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time and so many

14:41

more things that I was able to accomplish

14:43

, and I still was able to guard

14:45

all of that downtime , and so that's

14:47

so , yeah , and that was all you .

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Oh well , I'm so glad you know . I think what's so interesting

14:53

about us is you , as

14:55

you've shared with listeners over the years , or

14:57

, from that overdoer perspective , I'm

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definitely the over-thinker Right . So like

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I will sit and I will think

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and think and think and think and think as

15:06

opposed to doing . And

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so for me , I had a

15:10

my white space . That I had

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created was , I believe it was the winter or

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the fall of 2018 . And

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I took a weekend away up north and

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it was just me and just the north woods

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in fall . There's no

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Wi-Fi

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and I can't remember if I shared

15:29

with listeners that's kind of when I had an

15:31

identity crisis in a grocery store because

15:33

I didn't even know what to buy , because

15:35

I was only buying for myself . But

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I'm sharing this with the listeners

15:40

because I created white

15:42

space , time away just to

15:44

be alone with me in the woods

15:46

for an entire weekend , and

15:48

that's where things started to

15:51

really open up for me

15:53

with the direction

15:55

of my life moving forward . But carving

15:57

that out on a daily basis , especially

15:59

for the overdoers , like you did , april

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, is such a great , great

16:03

approach .

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Yeah , thank you . You know we obviously

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we want you to be

16:09

thoughtful and intentional with how

16:11

you're taking action , but sometimes

16:13

taking action includes

16:15

carving out that time and guarding

16:18

it really really well , because

16:20

it can be easy , especially if you're not in partnership

16:23

, to just say I'll just do this

16:25

, I'll just take this on . I met

16:28

somebody this past week where they're

16:31

an online entrepreneur and

16:33

they work every

16:35

night after their kids are put to bed until

16:38

this midnight . They said , yep , I

16:40

work anytime I can get my kids to

16:42

bed . I just I stay up as late as I need to and

16:44

I usually just fall asleep like working

16:46

out stuff and I'm like cool , my

16:48

friend , you might burn out pretty quick

16:51

if you keep going at that pace .

16:53

I've been there .

16:54

I've done that . But you

16:56

know , on the opposite side of taking

16:58

this white space and carving

17:01

it out and guarding it , I think it's

17:03

also important to take action intentionally

17:06

, and that's something that I'm

17:08

really proud of us the past few months

17:10

that we did . You know , we

17:12

were just kind of getting started , as

17:14

in our partnership , and we knew what

17:16

we wanted to do , we knew the impact

17:18

that we wanted to make , but did we

17:20

have all the answers ? No way

17:22

. But I can tell you we found a lot

17:25

more answers by taking action and getting

17:27

started than just over sinking

17:29

it .

17:30

Absolutely . I vividly remember having

17:32

a meeting with you and

17:35

we were both just like we got to just jump in

17:37

because and we knew that we

17:39

knew we needed to just jump in to find

17:41

more answers . And

17:44

I do want to circle back to taking a little bit of

17:46

white space , because as entrepreneurs

17:49

especially , or as moms

17:51

who are just so extra busy this

17:53

time of year you know we

17:55

need to start reframing and owning the fact

17:57

and this is something that I love about how we

17:59

are operating our business that the

18:01

powerful pause , taking

18:04

that downtime , taking that white space , is

18:06

an action for

18:09

your business or for your life

18:11

goals , whatever they are . And

18:14

I don't know where in our

18:16

culture , the hustle and grind

18:18

and where that

18:20

narrative took over , as if to say

18:22

that's the only way

18:24

to do life and be successful

18:27

. Because we're here to tell you that's

18:29

actually not . And , to your point , april

18:31

, it's the fastest way to burn out . So

18:33

, coming into the partnership and going , wait a second

18:35

, I've burned out , I've burned

18:37

my business down at least twice

18:39

. I don't want to be that person anymore

18:42

. So who's this new person

18:44

, who's this new Lisa going to be that

18:46

we can intentionally build , make

18:48

impact and all

18:50

the things we want to accomplish . But

18:53

first and foremost , put the relationship center

18:55

focus and take action

18:58

without burning out and putting those

19:00

powerful pauses in the middle .

19:03

You know , something else that I think it's important that we

19:05

share is that oftentimes , when

19:07

we come together for team meetings and

19:10

we're working on a project , or we're working

19:12

on forecasting or whatever it is , I

19:14

feel like the theme is how can we make this

19:16

easy ? Yes , it's

19:21

such a great question . How can you

19:23

make whatever you're working on

19:25

easy ?

19:26

Yes , what's

19:28

the easiest way to accomplish what we're

19:30

trying to do ? Yeah , how can this next

19:32

decision be easy ?

19:34

We come back to that question all

19:36

the time and

19:39

you know , it's something that I think I

19:41

bump up against . I probably fight

19:43

, I guess maybe more than you , because I'm like

19:45

no , we have to do it this way

19:47

, this is how it's supposed to be done . Quote

19:50

, unquote supposed to . And

19:52

you know when you were saying about . You don't

19:54

know where the hustle came from and

19:56

how important it's been to take this

19:58

powerful pause that we've been advocating

20:00

for . It's cool that you say that , because

20:03

years ago , when this podcast first

20:05

started , you were one of my first interviews

20:07

. You remember that and you were two

20:09

, yeah , and you were talking about the powerful

20:12

pause that you were taking in that moment .

20:15

Oh , that's wild . I'm gonna have to re-listen to that

20:17

.

20:18

It was cool , but that was the first

20:20

time that I had ever really thought about

20:22

it from that lens . And now

20:24

, years later , we're talking

20:26

about it and we're seeing the impact

20:29

that taking a pause , taking

20:31

care of yourself , recalibrating

20:33

, re-grounding yourself and

20:36

your vision , grounding your nervous

20:38

system , all of it that

20:40

all has a pivotal

20:43

impact on your business , absolutely

20:46

. We just want to advocate

20:48

for you to do it , absolutely

20:51

.

20:52

It's been such a great year , such a great

20:54

six months together

20:56

, six months , six months doing

20:58

this , and I feel like , you

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know , we're just getting started

21:03

and I'm so excited for what

21:05

we've learned and how we're , you know , equally adapting

21:08

and the intentional

21:10

decisions we're making for the

21:12

new year . So

21:15

it's all just such a great

21:18

energy , great time .

21:20

It is yeah , and one of the things that we've

21:22

decided for this podcast is we'd like

21:25

to create more white space for our listeners

21:27

. Yes , Because it's

21:29

easy to get caught up in the doing , and

21:31

sometimes that doing even is

21:33

ooh . I got to stay up to date on

21:35

listening to all the podcasts for people

21:38

. I need to , you know , be reading and collecting

21:40

all of the content that's out and available

21:42

to me . But because we

21:45

love you so much and we respect all

21:47

of our listeners and all of our followers

21:49

, we actually have decided that

21:52

we'd like to create more white space for you

21:54

in the new year . We are excited to roll

21:56

that out and explain a little bit more about

21:58

that next year .

22:00

Ooh that's going to be great . I'm so excited

22:03

that's going to be such a pivotal

22:05

shift for everyone to not

22:07

only experience but also embrace and apply

22:09

in your own life and business .

22:12

Yeah , we're very excited to roll this

22:14

out for you guys . So , on that note

22:16

, I think it's important that we

22:18

invite you to take some time

22:20

over the next few days , as you're wrapping

22:22

up 2023 , to reflect

22:25

on your year , if you haven't done so , and

22:27

ask yourself what went well , what

22:29

are the things that I'd like to recalibrate

22:31

and what are the lessons that I learned

22:33

this year , because that's what

22:35

we're working on right now . We're paying attention

22:37

to what are those lessons that we had

22:40

the opportunity to learn , and

22:42

how will we take all of this information

22:44

and overlay it into the new year

22:46

?

22:47

2024 is really a

22:49

year of taking

22:51

action , and so we're

22:53

excited to be on that journey

22:55

with you .

22:56

On that note , we want to just say thank

22:58

you . Thank you for a wonderful year

23:00

, thank you for supporting Lisa

23:03

and I as we have navigated this partnership

23:05

and thank you for supporting this podcast

23:07

, as it's taken a completely

23:09

new role and a new identity

23:12

. The second half of 2023

23:14

. And we want to thank you in advance

23:16

for going with us on this journey

23:18

of 2024 . I think it's going to be an

23:20

incredibly beautiful and wild

23:23

ride and we are so grateful to

23:25

have you alongside us . On that note , it

23:28

is closing time . Cheers to good karma

23:30

.

23:32

Thank you for listening to this entire

23:34

podcast . I hope this episode

23:36

has left you feeling curious and

23:38

inspired . This podcast is intended

23:41

to create expansion in your life

23:43

through unique stories and shared experiences

23:45

, and if you enjoy today's episode

23:47

, I have a request . I'd like to ask you

23:49

to share this podcast with your friends and

23:51

family . I bet they'd enjoy it

23:53

just as much as you have . And , if you found

23:56

value , please share this on your

23:58

social media outlets . That is good

24:00

karma in action , my friends . All

24:02

right , it is now closing time . Cheers

24:05

to good karma and the power to

24:07

choose joy . If

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you like this , tell your friends

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.