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Monday March 18th

4:04

and we have our brackets. My brackets

4:06

busted. We have our brackets

4:08

and someone in that committee is a

4:10

real sick pervert. I actually think it's

4:12

probably someone that Hank knows because he's

4:14

been smiling ear to ear since

4:17

the brackets have been announced. The

4:19

pardon my take region, it wasn't just that

4:22

they had to put me versus PFT, Wisconsin

4:24

versus James Madison in the first round. They

4:27

also put Vermont and Duke in the

4:29

same quadrant. Yeah, Hank just loaded it

4:31

up. Famous graduate of Duke University, Henry

4:33

Lockwood, famous graduate of Vermont, Jake Marsh.

4:36

Yeah, that's that is actually the we'll get

4:38

to our game. But the worst part about

4:41

what they did to us is

4:43

not just the two of us because we've we

4:45

can survive anything. We're stronger than

4:47

steel, stronger than iron. We

4:49

can survive anything. It's the fact that

4:51

the winner of our game will then

4:53

go up against either Hank and

4:55

Duke or Jake and Vermont and

4:58

they both will be like, we don't really care as

5:00

our teams like one of our teams loses

5:02

to those fucking bumps. I've seen this movie

5:05

before. Here's what's going to

5:07

happen. Putting us apart. Here's what's going to happen.

5:10

It's going to be it doesn't matter who wins between me

5:12

and Big Cat. Yeah, because Jake Marsh

5:14

is going to be as in the second round and

5:16

he's going to say, I just I'm actually kind of

5:18

rooting for James Madison or Wisconsin. Yeah, I want Vermont

5:20

to win, but I want you guys to be happy.

5:23

Yeah. Oh yeah. Sorry,

5:26

sorry, I just beat you. Yeah. I'm

5:28

the best in the office again. I despite the

5:30

fact that this is perverted and it's sick and

5:33

it's disgusting and there's somebody that's listening to part

5:35

of my take right now in some college ivory

5:37

tower. Oh, they're all loving it. Some athletic director

5:39

and he's silently jacking his dick off, just listening

5:41

to us in pain. Slow straw. I want that

5:43

person to know that they're pervert, but

5:46

that's actually not the sickest thing. The sickest

5:48

thing they did was put UVA in. Yeah.

5:50

That's disgusting. UVA. You should

5:52

be ashamed of yourself. I want to give some shout outs

5:54

to the people who got the

5:56

people got snubbed. The bubbles burst. It was

5:59

a crazy week. end of basketball Saturday

6:01

you saw basically the bubble shrink and

6:03

shrink and shrink because NC State won,

6:06

beat North Carolina, they weren't gonna get in,

6:08

New Mexico won the Mountain West, they probably

6:10

weren't gonna get in, Temple beat FAU and

6:12

then it became a Temple UAB, one of

6:15

those teams was not gonna get in and

6:17

the bubble just got smaller and smaller and

6:19

smaller and the loser, the

6:21

big loser was the Big East who

6:24

ended up getting three teams in which is

6:26

crazy because of the second ranked conference

6:29

some people are saying our

6:31

friend Frank Fleming is saying that

6:33

because the Big East is broadcasted

6:35

on Fox and the

6:37

Mountain West is broadcasted on CBS what is

6:40

the tournament broadcast on? That would be on

6:42

CBS Big K. Interesting also

6:44

we have another theory Max could you please share it?

6:48

The committee is anti-Italian,

6:50

anti- Italian American discrimination.

6:56

This is an example of anti-Italian. Why

6:58

is it going against the big East?

7:01

The Big East is Italian. I actually agree

7:03

with you. Yeah I know I agree with

7:05

that you got some you got some Catholic

7:07

schools you got New York schools you got

7:10

you know Providence, Patino, yeah Patino and then

7:12

you got legends like Rolly Massimino great

7:15

Italian, Jim

7:18

Beyheim, Karnasekka, Dr. Ewing, John

7:20

Thompson, the

7:24

most famous Italians you can find

7:26

out. Yeah you got Patrick CUNY

7:28

the first Italian American coach Georgetown

7:30

University. Kyle Neptune ends in a

7:32

vowel Italian. Jay Wright

7:34

looks like he could be Italian. Jay Wright

7:36

is Italian. He's not Italian but he got

7:38

there as quick as he could. Yeah yeah

7:40

the suits are Italian. It was though

7:42

the Big East got screwed. St. John's

7:45

wasn't even in the last

7:47

four out. Seton Hall who

7:49

beat Yukon the number one

7:51

overall seed wasn't in Providence

7:53

didn't get in. It's bullshit. Yeah it's

7:55

kind of crazy too when you look

7:57

at what the NCAA did by inventing

7:59

the net ranking, right? It's

8:01

the NCAA evaluation tool to

8:04

determine what teams are better.

8:06

It's their own metric that

8:09

they invented, that they claim to rely on.

8:11

They did this, and they did it so

8:13

that they could have some data

8:15

to show people when they complained about bubble

8:18

teams. They invented a whole new formula, and

8:20

then they just threw it out the window

8:22

when it came time to decide on which

8:24

teams were in. It's ridiculous, but it's also

8:26

very funny that they just created it as

8:28

a distraction, like, hey, maybe people

8:30

shut the fuck up for a while, and

8:33

then we'll just put in the teams. Oppenheimer

8:35

had spent those four years inventing the atomic

8:37

bomb, and then Harry Truman just surrenders right

8:39

afterwards before they drop it. It's so

8:41

dumb what they did. Do they

8:44

have an explanation? Well, so here

8:47

was one. Matt Norlander, who works

8:49

for CBS, talked to the committee.

8:51

They said, New Mexico would

8:53

have been out if it didn't win the

8:55

Mountain West. Also, Q1 wins were why Michigan

8:57

State got a nine, which was pretty shocking.

8:59

Also, said the Mountain West wins mostly came

9:01

in conference, thus why so many teams seeded

9:03

at low. So there's two competing things. Mountain

9:05

West teams are like, our

9:08

league got seeded low, and Big East

9:10

fans are like, but you got six

9:12

in, and we got three in. It's

9:14

bullshit. I think it's Quad 1 wins,

9:17

is what they're looking at, but that

9:19

also doesn't make sense because Michigan State

9:21

had three Quad 1 wins. I

9:23

think Providence had six. So it really was no

9:26

rhyme or reason. And then you have Duquesne, who

9:28

got an 11 seed, who

9:30

I'm pretty sure they were just, the committee got

9:32

lazy, and they're like, whoever wins this game is

9:35

going to get an 11 seed. There's no reason

9:37

James Madison shouldn't have gotten an 11 seed over.

9:39

Like, James Madison better than Duquesne. They got, James

9:41

Madison got a 12, Duquesne got an 11. It's

9:44

just crazy. Duquesne got the same seed as, hold

9:47

on, I got to find it. It's almost like they just

9:49

looked at the name of the school. Yeah,

9:51

that feels like an 11 seed to me. Yeah. Put them in

9:54

there. All right. So New Mexico, who they admit was on the

9:56

bubble, is number 22 in

9:58

net, and they have the same. seed as

10:00

Duquesne who was 83 in that. And

10:03

Oregon who was 59 and NC State who was 63. They

10:07

really, this might be the first year where

10:09

like the arguments about how the bracket brachatologists,

10:13

the committee did it, is

10:15

all valid. Like it feels like they just

10:17

kind of winged this thing. Yeah. Both

10:20

in seeding and who they left out. Obviously

10:22

the bubble getting so tight.

10:24

You know, Virginia, that should have

10:27

just been an easy like, do we want to

10:29

watch more Virginia? It's so funny that not only

10:31

did they take a team that they knew would

10:33

piss people off. Yeah. Because they might not have

10:35

been deserving to get in, but also they picked

10:37

the one team in America that would piss the

10:39

most people off because now we all have to

10:41

watch a Virginia standalone game. Standalone game. Also

10:43

just one last thing about Michigan State, who I thought should

10:45

have been in, but it like when you put the resume

10:47

up it's, you

10:49

could definitely poke some holes in it. When

10:52

they went to, when they were revealing the

10:54

bracket on CBS, they asked about Michigan State

10:56

and someone said, it might have been

10:58

Clark Kellogg was like, they're playing really well even though they

11:00

haven't won a game. Okay.

11:02

Yeah. They're competitive. They haven't won games, they haven't

11:05

won games, but they're playing really well. So it's

11:07

awesome just having a bracket in your hands, holding

11:09

the bracket, looking at it, smelling it when it

11:11

comes out of the printer and it's still warm.

11:13

Everything about a bracket I love. It's the best.

11:16

I just went with my balls. I

11:18

did a balls first pick and

11:20

I think I'm gonna keep this bracket. I think I'm

11:22

gonna trust my initial reaction on the bracket. Who do

11:24

you have in the in the 12-5 matchup? 12-5 matchup

11:26

in the south? Yeah.

11:31

I have the Jamie Dukes.

11:33

I have James Madison winning two games and

11:35

Hank, by the way, this

11:37

is the time if there was ever a time. You

11:40

versus Jake, Duke versus Vermont, they

11:42

are the cat amounts. If you lose

11:45

to Vermont you should get a cat. Oh. All

11:48

right. Hank is- I tried. Hank

11:50

has this is gonna, this is, pardon my

11:52

take, Civil War in this quadrant and

11:55

Hank does not give a fuck. And we knew it was

11:57

happening. I do have, I filled out a bracket as well.

11:59

There's one. Oh one matchup missing Wisconsin

12:01

jam you I wanted to give you guys the

12:03

floor maybe try and might pitch me okay I'll

12:06

pitch you it's hell for me because I just

12:09

bought back into this Wisconsin team They

12:11

played their balls off in in the

12:13

conference tournament. I mean I I've

12:15

watched every single Wisconsin game They were playing

12:17

very bad basketball in February. They fought hard

12:19

almost, you know, they're the refs They

12:22

beat the refs on Saturday. They played toe-to-toe

12:24

with Illinois Illinois is really good. They have

12:26

two guys that just you can't stop So

12:29

I was like feeling excited. I was like, this is

12:31

a team that I talked about it

12:33

in January They have the makings every every

12:35

piece that's needed for a run JMU

12:39

is a problem. They're really fucking good and

12:42

basketball if they score the basketball they shoot the

12:44

three Wisconsin doesn't defend the three.

12:46

I'm just hoping that height and Scoring

12:49

down low can work But

12:51

it's a lose-lose for me because if

12:53

Wisconsin beats JMU, they're the favorites

12:55

They're the five seed and if we lose

12:57

it's like ha ha this one's gonna probably

12:59

hurt It won't hurt

13:01

as bad as 2015 because nothing will but

13:04

it will hurt very very bad What about like sweet 16

13:06

2016 early date? Florida

13:10

That hurt very bad. Probably won't hurt as

13:12

much as that because it's it's the first round.

13:14

It's the first hockey Won't

13:17

hurt so be number four. It'd be number four

13:19

on on Wisconsin basketball

13:21

losses the gets right like We're

13:25

not money was cut yeah, Wisconsin's supposed to win this

13:27

game. We're the underdogs for a reason

13:29

as we should be But

13:33

Hank to make my case this will actually

13:35

I'm not sure if this is gonna make the case for

13:37

me or against me I

13:39

think I'm gonna be there. So it's about 15

13:42

minutes away from where the wedding is gonna be

13:44

It's like the universe lining up for me. I'm

13:46

gonna go there straight from the wedding. It's a

13:48

black tie wedding, too It's a Haitian black tie

13:50

wedding and I'm gonna go 12 minutes

13:52

down the road go to Barclays That

13:55

might actually work against us because if you look

13:58

at the history of barstool and the team that

14:00

we root for breaking hearts, if

14:02

there's somebody there in person, that person usually

14:04

loses, right? Maybe not from your perspective as

14:06

a Patriots fan, but for most everybody else's,

14:08

like, this does feel like it's gonna be,

14:11

we are underdogs and we

14:13

are playing with house money, but it does feel like it

14:15

will be more heartbreaking for me if

14:17

I were to be there in person to watch

14:20

it lose. Okay, but counterpoint, hold on, don't fill

14:22

it out yet, counterpoint. I

14:25

just can visualize, I'm

14:27

gonna be streaming, me just at, people

14:29

love to watch me die on streams,

14:31

the number spiking as the game gets

14:34

worse and worse, and then the,

14:36

like, you know, every 10 minutes

14:38

a clip coming out of happy PFT, not

14:41

on mushrooms, but looking like he might be on mushrooms.

14:43

I haven't said I'm not gonna take much. Okay, so

14:45

he might be on mushrooms, happy PFT while everyone just

14:47

watches me die. Now the last thing I'll say in

14:50

defensive Wisconsin, this

14:52

will 100% be the trendiest 12-5

14:56

upset. Yeah, everyone's gonna pick JMU.

14:59

I was looking at the matchup because I was

15:01

like, I'm nervous. I was looking at Ken Palm,

15:03

Bart Torevic trying to find it, texting all my

15:05

friends who make power ratings. It's

15:07

gonna be a very difficult game for

15:10

Wisconsin to win because I think James Madison is

15:12

very good and they were criminally under seated, but

15:17

just gotta, just gotta be taller, just

15:19

gotta be taller. And AJ Storrs just

15:21

gotta be awesome. This is Hepburn. You

15:23

mean AJ Storrs? AJ Storrs. And Max

15:25

Klesman has to get

15:27

his groin replaced. It's gonna come down

15:30

to, this is actually the perfect litmus test for rest

15:32

versus rest. Yeah. Hank, do you

15:34

believe in rest or rest? We're playing good ball right now. We're

15:36

playing good ball right now. Jamie's had a lot of time to

15:38

recover. What did you put in there? Well,

15:41

here's the other thing too, is you would love

15:44

for me to die against Duke. So

15:46

that is correct. That's really what you want. I'm

15:48

thinking about the vibes. I don't want to get

15:50

lashed out on in person on Friday. Oh true.

15:53

Yep. For Wisconsin with you because PFT won't be

15:55

there. And then you're gonna convince yourself

15:57

that you're gonna get revenge for 2015. lose

16:00

to Duke which will be the best content case.

16:02

So I wrote Wisconsin. Okay.

16:05

It's funny. Jamie, you against the world. Again,

16:07

they did this, someone did this

16:09

on purpose. Yeah. Someone did this

16:11

on purpose. I said it on Monday.

16:13

I was like, I'm not trying to be a narcissist, but remember

16:15

when we had standalone games, Bears

16:17

vs. Commanders, Bears vs.

16:20

Patriots. Someone in the universe is like,

16:22

how can we squeeze it out of them

16:24

and try to break them up via sport?

16:26

Thank you. It's a good content for

16:28

the show. It's good for the show. But Hank, you're one

16:30

of them. You're one of the perverts out there. You probably

16:32

put a phone call in. But even if it was just

16:34

12-5, I would be like, okay, that's kind of a... The

16:37

fact that Duke's there, sitting there. Some

16:41

say fuck. Is just,

16:43

oh, I know, I wish maybe it

16:45

would have been great if it was just like, and

16:47

Villanova's in the tournament. Duke vs. Villanova. That

16:51

would have rocked. So we unveiled Hank's

16:53

pick for that game. On Wednesday's show, Will and

16:55

Bill Max's pick for that game. Yeah. And

16:58

then on Friday, Will unveiled Memes' pick. The much

17:00

anticipated Memes' pick. Yeah. Next

17:02

Monday, I'll unveil my pick. But yeah, the brackets,

17:04

I'm just so excited. I'm so excited for College

17:06

Basketball. It is my favorite. I mean,

17:10

we should talk about Conference Tournament week

17:12

because it was incredible. I

17:14

reached that point where I think

17:16

last night I was up again at

17:19

like 12 o'clock at night watching RUT,

17:21

Arlington boys struggle with

17:24

who they play, Grand Canyon. But

17:27

it's just these five days, I've just had

17:29

nothing but basketball in my brain. I

17:31

don't even know. I

17:34

just need to see a ball be bouncing at all

17:36

times. Yeah. Hearing the squeaks.

17:38

Yeah. And there was just so many crazy games.

17:40

I mean, the fact that NC State, that was one of

17:42

the craziest runs. Five games, five days. And

17:44

to beat Virginia when

17:47

Virginia should have fouled on a

17:50

bank in three pointer and then

17:52

kind of low key throttle NC.

17:55

They were up that entire game. It

17:57

was crazy. And then we had every tournament. its

18:00

own weird thing happened. Kentucky

18:02

losing in the first round, Tennessee losing in

18:04

the first round, Bama getting smoked. Mm-hmm. SEC

18:06

was a bloodbath. Yeah, SEC was a bloodbath.

18:09

Yeah, SEC was a bloodbath. Yeah,

18:11

SEC was a bloodbath. Yeah, B-bath. Houston

18:13

getting absolutely trucked by Iowa

18:16

State. Wisconsin beating

18:18

Purdue was the happiest

18:20

I've been in a while. Mm-hmm. For any of

18:22

my sports teams. I mean, that was a crazy

18:24

game too. Yeah. And the big pain for me

18:26

is like I've I like this Badgers team. They're

18:28

so fun especially when they're

18:30

shooting the ball well. They have fun

18:32

guys. They're not the typical like slow

18:34

it down Virginia. Let's just fucking you

18:36

know go 30 seconds just

18:39

passing the ball around and then get a you know

18:41

a good layup. It's very hard for me to root

18:43

against a guy named Chucky. I can't be like god

18:45

damn it Chucky. I fucking hate you. No, it's like

18:47

that's Chucky. Yeah. Yeah, but so I then PAC 12

18:50

has craziness like and then you know every

18:52

single conference it felt like the only conference

18:54

that went chalk was the Big East and

18:56

UConn just marches on just dominating everyone. Yeah,

18:58

I feel like this is a big setup

19:00

for UConn to just destroy people again. Yeah.

19:02

So who would you say because I

19:04

was going to say that NC State to me feels

19:06

like America's team or America's sweetheart. America's sweetheart

19:08

because DJ Burns can't root against that guy

19:11

just throwing his ass at the people. He

19:13

looks like Escalade. He's the new model of

19:15

an Escalade and he's just mowing people down

19:17

with his ass and then the fact that

19:20

he's such a silky smooth passer too watching a big

19:22

dude that can pass like that is so fun. NC

19:25

State feels like the team that most of America's

19:27

fall in love with but

19:29

besides them who would you put as

19:31

like the sentimental favorites? Sentimental favorites. Good

19:33

question. Can I just say one thing

19:36

about NC State and where they're seated

19:38

in the bracket? I

19:41

know that we're just going off vibes and

19:43

everything but I was thinking about it. You

19:45

have Houston and Tennessee futures. I do. I

19:47

have Kentucky, UNC and UConn futures. Kentucky

19:50

wins their first game and

19:52

Texas Tech wins their first game. I was just thinking about

19:54

how I'm just going to watch that game at Patrick Holmes.

19:56

It's going to be standing behind the bench and

19:59

just another future. by Patrick. You can somehow

20:01

come in and drop 30. Yeah.

20:03

It's like, God damn it, this guy. All

20:06

right. Team of, or America's

20:08

team? America's sweetheart. America's sweetheart.

20:11

That's great. I mean, you usually don't find out until you

20:13

get that upset, but hmm. Based

20:16

off by... Will Wade, McNeese? We

20:19

also need big sexy merch for sure. Oh yeah. Yeah, I

20:21

mean, yeah. He's gotta be our guy. Does he have a

20:23

nickname yet? I

20:28

think I've heard... Just big sexy? I've

20:31

heard Escalade memes just keeps calling them

20:33

big sexy. What about the Cybertruck? The

20:35

Cybertruck. We can workshop something, but we

20:37

need to make a deal there.

20:41

Yeah. The perfect person to ask about that is coming

20:43

on the show, actually. Yeah. It

20:46

was Indiana State who didn't get in. I

20:48

feel bad for Indiana State. It fucking sucks,

20:50

because they were so fun to watch this

20:52

year. That definitely would have been the team

20:54

that everyone was rooting for and pulling for.

20:56

Oh, I've got another America's sweetheart, but they're

20:58

gonna get bounced in the first round. Okay.

21:00

Long Beach State. Yeah. Because their coach, he

21:04

and the university mutually agreed to part ways

21:06

after the season. Yeah. Essentially, he was fired,

21:08

but they're like, hey, you can stick around

21:10

and you can coach for the tournament. Then

21:12

they just won their conference tournament, so he's still

21:15

their coach. And Dan Munson is a legend coach.

21:17

If you want to actually draw the

21:19

line of when did Gonzaga become Gonzaga,

21:22

it's Dan Munson. Yeah. He was the

21:24

coach of Gonzaga. He was assistant coach for a really

21:26

long time. Then their head coach when they made their

21:28

very first deep run where everyone was like, what is

21:31

this school? Where is it? Yeah. Yeah. Him, they fired

21:33

him and he's like, yeah, I'll keep coaching him for

21:35

this conference tournament. You're fired. He's like, okay, can I

21:37

still coach the team? Yeah. And they came back. They

21:39

were down, I was watching that game. They were down

21:42

like 10 in the second half and came back and

21:44

won that game. They said afterwards that Jim

21:46

Harbaugh is full of shit when he says, who's got better

21:49

than us? Nobody. He's like, yeah, I do. I do.

21:51

My life's pretty sweet. Yeah. So like a guy who's fired

21:53

being that happy about his life, which I guess is

21:55

still to coach basketball. It's hard not

21:57

to root for that guy. By the way, If

22:00

they beat Arizona in the first round, is

22:02

he coaching for his job? Like could they

22:04

rehire him? They should rehire him. Another one,

22:06

Keats, NC State's coach, all time,

22:09

all time coaching for your job, he

22:11

had a line in his

22:13

contract that if he ever wins the

22:16

ACC tournament in a contract year,

22:18

he gets an automatic two-year

22:20

extension. So he got an automatic

22:23

two-year extension on Saturday night just by winning that

22:25

game. That's cool. And he was

22:27

on the hot seat. They were gonna fire him

22:29

and he just, it kicks in and he just

22:31

got all these bonuses. All right, I'll give you

22:33

one other team that I think could be the

22:35

like capture America's heart. Alabama.

22:38

Samford. Samford's playing

22:40

Kansas, 13-4. Kansas

22:43

has been trending downwards. They've had a lot

22:45

of injuries. They got bounced quickly in the

22:47

first round against Cincy in the Big 12

22:49

tournament. Samford plays so

22:52

fast, they chuck and

22:54

like that's the type of team that everyone falls in

22:56

love with. Just a bunch of

22:59

like undersized guys who hit threes and

23:01

played a crazy pace. So Samford could

23:03

be that team. And Kansas is like,

23:05

you always got to look, what's the

23:07

story? Even though Kansas is down, it's

23:09

like 10 years from now, if Samford

23:12

beat Kansas, everyone would be like, wow,

23:14

remember when Samford beat Kansas? Yeah, Kansas.

23:16

They lost to a school named Samford.

23:18

Yeah, right. If you're looking at

23:20

the Jake Morris storyline, Super Bowl, I see

23:22

one in the second round, Tennessee,

23:24

Texas. Jake Barnes. Yeah,

23:28

I love that. I really wish the committee had done

23:30

Purdue versus St. Peter's in the first round. Yeah, me

23:32

too. That would have been great. But

23:34

yeah, this bracket looks great. All right, so

23:36

you guys want to do a quick Final

23:38

Four that we can then adjust at a

23:40

later date? Yes. All

23:43

right, do you have yours, Hank? Mm-hmm.

23:45

Okay, give it to me. Yukon,

23:47

Arizona, Kentucky, Gonzaga.

23:51

Yukon, Kentucky, rematch from

23:54

what was that, 2014? Kentucky

23:57

wins the national championship. Okay.

24:00

Okay. I

24:02

have Yukon, Arizona,

24:05

Houston, Tennessee. Okay.

24:08

I have, this is my first, I haven't

24:10

even done it all, all throughout. I

24:12

think it's going to be the storyline

24:15

revenge factor. It's going to

24:17

be Yukon, North Carolina,

24:20

Marquette and Creighton. And

24:22

everyone's gonna be like, why did you leave out

24:24

half, you know, the entire Big East three out

24:26

of four of the final four teams are Big

24:28

East team. Counterpoint, do you know what network this

24:31

is going to be played on? Oh yes. CVS.

24:33

And what network is the Big East played on?

24:35

Fox. Fox. Something to think about.

24:37

Shit. That's not going to happen.

24:39

It would be very, it actually going to be, it

24:41

actually would be great. State, Colorado state. Yeah. It would

24:43

be great if that did happen. It would be a

24:45

big fuck you. Yeah. I'm rooting for that. I

24:48

think I would love to just see the, I

24:52

just like whenever the committee gets embarrassed,

24:54

whether it be college football, whether it

24:56

be college basketball committees are bullshit and

24:59

I am convinced that all of

25:01

these committees can be, the job

25:03

of the committees can be done better by

25:05

like 75% of the fans. Or

25:08

AI. Is anyone who's been paying attention? I

25:11

know for a fact, I know

25:14

college basketball guys who are way

25:16

more informed about college basketball

25:18

and who's good and who's bad than this stupid

25:20

committee. Yeah. Committees exist just so that one person

25:22

doesn't get blamed for stuff. Yeah. And then they

25:24

think. It's like when somebody says, oh, you know,

25:26

I have to take this to the board and

25:29

get the board's approval on it. No, it's just

25:31

the having a board or having a committee is

25:33

very useful so you can be like, no, it's

25:36

this nebulous entities problem that you've got fucked over.

25:38

There's, there's no one person that like a St.

25:41

John's fan can call up on the phone and be

25:43

like, fuck you. Yeah. That's all, that's all we want

25:45

is fans. Like give me somebody to tell us to

25:47

fuck off. Yeah. Give us a hot. Yeah. Establish an

25:49

open hotline to act. We should do that for voicemails.

25:52

Maybe, maybe for a Wednesday show. Oh yeah. What do

25:54

we, what do we, what was that segment we used

25:56

to do? We should bring that back for March Madness.

26:00

Uh, was it like parent

26:02

when your dad texts you? Oh,

26:04

parental advisory. Parental advisory. Yeah. Pissed

26:07

off parents. And then we had another one where we used the hashtag

26:09

that was good. Oh yeah. That people would

26:11

tweet us. Higher education? No, no, no. How come people would tweet

26:13

us that they were mad and we'd read them off and they

26:16

were great? It might just be

26:18

like mad online. Yeah, we gotta bring that back. Because that

26:20

was great to hear from the fans when they feel

26:22

like they're hurt. Yeah, yeah. So if you were in

26:24

a grieved party, if you feel like you've been wronged

26:26

by the committee, just tweet at

26:29

us, hashtag mad online. Yeah. Let

26:31

us know why, let us know what school they fucked over and

26:33

we will read the best ones. Yeah. Um,

26:36

the end of the CBS show, they

26:38

thank the committee. Shut

26:41

the fuck up. It's a bunch

26:43

of dudes sitting in women probably sitting

26:46

in like business casual attire in

26:48

a Sheridan conference room eating like

26:50

lukewarm spinach artichoke dip and just

26:52

sitting there being like, oh, this

26:54

team looks pretty good. Thank you

26:56

for your service. We spent six

26:59

hours today and it's probably, I don't know

27:01

if it's spent our tip or if it's

27:03

like just cold cut sandwiches. It's just gross

27:05

food. You had to eat dry sandwiches for

27:07

a day. You had to eat a turkey

27:09

club that didn't have almost any mayonnaise on

27:11

it at all. Like a very dry sandwich.

27:14

Thank you for your service. You basically served overseas in Iraq.

27:16

Yeah, you just, you keep standing up

27:18

and looking at the cookies again, being like, oh,

27:20

is this oatmeal raisin and sitting back, I'll have

27:22

half and then you have another half and then

27:24

you have another half. You've had seven cookies, dude.

27:26

They probably who put Duquesne at number 11. They

27:29

brought in the pitcher filled with water and like

27:31

the metal vase and it was

27:33

probably filled to the top too far when

27:35

you poured it into your little stemmed glass.

27:37

It probably spilled a little bit on the

27:40

white tablecloth that was housing all the craft

27:42

services. So it was a tough

27:44

day for everybody. That fucking one idiot who's been accidentally

27:46

drinking decaf for the whole day and he's like halfway

27:48

through, he's like, fuck, this is decaf? Yeah, it probably

27:50

took him like 10 minutes to get

27:52

the PowerPoint set up. Yeah. You

27:55

didn't have the right connection cable. They're morons. So

27:57

no, no, thank you to the committee. You

27:59

guys did. bad jobs. Bad jobs.

28:01

I actually am more like

28:03

it's the bubble got burst by everyone like

28:06

this was the craziest conference tournament week. I'm

28:08

more mad about the seeding. I think they

28:10

they did some really bad shit with the

28:12

seeding and fucked over some teams. Yeah,

28:14

that really would have come in terms of the teams

28:16

that got left out. I think you just you have

28:18

to look at the ACC and then you look at

28:20

the big E teams that got left out and be

28:23

like which team like Clemson was what

28:25

a six seed? Yeah, I

28:27

think so. Yeah, they stink. Yeah. Clemson

28:29

is six seed. Joe Girard is going to get absolutely

28:33

eaten alive by New Mexico. They

28:35

play fast. Yeah, all fast ball is also

28:38

a very funny time of year because I'm

28:40

very bad at gambling. I'm on a historically

28:43

bad run right now. But I

28:45

also think that I'm smart enough to pick like

28:47

Colorado to win a play in game and then

28:50

pick Colorado to win their second round

28:52

game over Marquette. I already bet Colorado. Yeah, so

28:54

I feel like on Wednesday. We're smart. We're sharp.

28:56

Yeah, no, it's fine. You got

28:58

to get into it. So what

29:01

else we got for the bracket? Anything

29:03

else, Hank? Duke? Are

29:06

you gonna be a Duke fan? Yeah.

29:09

I like how you just decided that right now. Sure. I

29:12

mean, I don't have a college basketball team.

29:14

So they're the closest thing I got. Duke

29:16

went out sad. Yeah, I mean, this team is

29:18

not good. Sad. Who do they lose to

29:20

again? NC State. Oh, yeah.

29:22

NC State. Yeah. My brain is

29:24

just melted with basketball. He

29:26

asked me what happened and I'm just like,

29:29

I think. I don't know. Well, Max, do you

29:31

have any other thoughts? Villanova. How mad would you

29:33

have been if Wisconsin lost at the refs?

29:37

Oh, with Zach Headey? Yeah. Very mad.

29:39

I mean, anyone who watched... Everyone

29:41

who roots for a Big 10 team should be thankful

29:44

that that was the last time we have to watch

29:46

a Big 10 ref, crew, ref, Zach Headey. I still

29:48

think Purdue is a very good team. They're better than

29:50

they were last year. But

29:53

it's just maddening watching a

29:56

seven foot guy get treated like he's a

29:58

five foot guy and with kids... gloves

30:00

and every single time he gets touched

30:02

there's a whistle he's barreling over people

30:05

it's nuts so I was that was that felt

30:07

really good there was a very fun wind out

30:09

it is funny cuz the refs feel bad for

30:11

Zach Edie right is it which is it really

30:13

strange for a guy that that he's that physically

30:16

imposing and you're like oh poor Zach Edie he

30:18

doesn't look like he's having any fun out there they

30:20

did it to Michigan State the night before too it

30:23

was just egregious call after egregious call I had one

30:25

last thing max you

30:27

were never even close to the bubble that

30:30

you keep saying that that's not true no

30:32

you kind of wasted our time yeah like

30:34

you wasted all that anger and you weren't

30:36

even close to those

30:38

to the ball if Villanova beats

30:40

Marquette then beats Providence and is

30:42

in the Big East final and loses to Yukon they

30:45

are a thousand percent in that

30:47

would be six quad one wins I

30:50

don't think so a thousand percent we don't have

30:52

the committee feels about Italians max and what network

30:54

is the Big East something sure

30:57

but and the whole quad one thing is

30:59

bullshit like Michigan that Michigan State got that seating

31:01

because their quad one wins they're going to

31:03

have them yeah Seton Hall has more

31:06

st. John's has more yeah I thought Michigan State

31:08

should be in but I hold five quad one

31:10

win I know and they beat Yukon yeah it's

31:13

crazy and and max you

31:16

were never close to close probably wasn't

31:18

what was Providence even the last four

31:20

out they last four out no

31:22

they were not last four they weren't last four out and

31:25

they went around they were there than you in the

31:27

Big East tournament but we were ahead of

31:29

we we already beat them twice we were ahead

31:31

of them going into the Big East turn so

31:33

last four out was Oklahoma Seton Hall Indiana State

31:35

and Pitt you were not even we you wasted

31:37

our time but if they beat Marquette and then

31:39

beat Providence to get to the Big

31:42

East final there are a thousand percent in yeah

31:44

I don't think so I don't think I don't

31:46

know why you say that I don't think so

31:48

because you weren't even close did you call him

31:50

Frank you weren't even close but you're yes there

31:53

you're saying that because they lost that

31:55

gets them to know what you've got them to 20

31:57

wins with six quad one games Actually,

32:01

I don't know if Providence would have been quad one. Justice

32:05

for pug. Justice for pug. Oh yeah,

32:07

so we should say that is another

32:09

Fleming curse, a crazy

32:11

stat. John Phantom put this

32:14

out there, for the first time in 45 year

32:16

history, the Big East Conference of Team went over

32:18

five games, over 500 in conference

32:20

play and did not make the NCAA tournament.

32:23

That team is Heaton Hall. Damn. That's

32:26

tough. That is tough.

32:28

That is very tough. It was a bubble. The

32:30

bubble went crazy. It was all

32:33

those teams just stealing bits. I

32:35

mean, the A-10 had every single team

32:37

being upset. So, but

32:39

yeah, we have a bracket and I'm very excited about

32:41

the bracket. I love my bracket. My bracket is perfect

32:43

and it's 100% correct and

32:46

nothing ever bad is going to happen to it.

32:48

Who do you think Purdue is going to lose to? I think they lose to TCU.

32:52

Samford. Samford's

32:55

in the Elite Eight. I

32:57

think I just picked some of these

32:59

teams because I want to see these storylines develop.

33:01

I want to see Will Wade win

33:04

two games. I want to see McNeese beat

33:06

Kansas. Samford also,

33:09

everyone needs to know that you have to fill

33:11

out your bracket. You have to have a really

33:13

strong conviction about one crazy upset and then have

33:15

that team lose by 30. Yeah.

33:18

And then your entire bracket is going to... You guys are highlighter guys,

33:20

right? I go back and forth depending

33:22

on the year. Highlighter for sure. I

33:25

don't have a device that I need to use

33:27

every single year. I go with a flow. Oh,

33:29

highlighter for sure, right, Hank? Yeah.

33:32

Always highlighter, right, Max? Circle.

33:35

You circle? Circle and then... You

33:37

fucking weirdo. And

33:39

then put a line through it. You got to be... Yeah, you

33:41

got to be able to do both. Yeah. If I

33:43

have a highlighter for me, I'm a highlighter guy. If I got a pen,

33:45

guess what? It's big time. I want it to be

33:47

as quick as possible and I don't always have a highlighter close

33:50

by. I will always have a pen. Yep. Yeah.

33:53

So, we have a bracket with John Rothstein and we

33:55

also are going to have Titus on Wednesday where we

33:58

dive really deep in, have more crystallized thoughts. Let's

34:00

do who's back the week. By

34:04

the way, I mentioned at the top, we were going

34:06

to talk Justin Fields after John Rothstein. Got

34:08

a lot of thoughts on that. He was traded, so

34:10

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35:20

Hank. Who's back of

35:22

the week? Who's back of the week is Black Dick.

35:25

Okay, good, good. Great

35:28

Dick and Anthony Black did a jersey swap

35:30

at the end of their game on Sunday.

35:32

That's pretty cool. It's like when

35:34

Chris- Very funny. When Chris Long- Very funny picture. Used

35:36

to always stand next to Fletcher Cox, so it was

35:38

a Long Cox, and then one time Jalen Hurst got

35:40

there and said Long Cox Hurts. That was awesome. Yeah.

35:43

This guy's tough. Yeah. Always

35:45

makes me laugh. Nothing like a good jersey swap. Who's back

35:48

of the week is Scotty Scheffler.

35:50

This guy is good. He's a problem.

35:52

He is a big problem. Another

35:55

comeback victory at the players, repeat champion at

35:57

the players. Fifth major. Fifth major. Wyndham

36:00

Clark had

36:03

a putt to tie, forced a playoff, went

36:06

inside the cup, rolled around, popped back out.

36:08

Did a 180 degree loop, came out, I

36:10

may have bet on Wyndham Clark to

36:12

win. That was a tough loss. That was crazy.

36:14

It was wild, yeah, it was really close going

36:16

down the stretch there. It was like Brian Harmon,

36:19

Shoffley. Is Shoffley ever going to win anything? He

36:23

just doesn't like to win. Zander. The only thing

36:25

Zander does, his name is always

36:27

at the top of the leaderboard on Saturday. It's

36:29

always right next to Patrick Cantlay. It's always like

36:31

Cantlay Shoffley. I think he's like 0 for 9

36:33

and he's been in the final group nine times.

36:37

Maybe it's 0 for his last 9 because he's won a couple times,

36:39

but can't break through. Can't break

36:41

through, tough. What about a Zander

36:43

is it where you're a kid and your name

36:45

is Alexander and you decided to go by Zander

36:48

instead of Alex? I think some kids are named

36:50

Zander. Yeah, Zander. Zander is Jimmy Taitrow in

36:52

his show. I don't think his name is Alexander. That

36:54

would be why. You think his name is just Zander?

36:56

Yeah. I think it might be Zander. I think people

36:58

do Zander now. I mean people do

37:01

all kinds. No, his name is Alexander. Of course it's

37:03

Alexander. That's what Zander is short for. I didn't know

37:05

that. You thought just Zander was a name? I think

37:07

people do name Zander. Yeah, why would you just go

37:09

with Alex? Yeah, Alex. That's what I'm saying. You should,

37:11

if your name is Alexander and you choose to go

37:13

by Zander, that tells me all you need to know.

37:16

He should go by Alex until he wins the tournament.

37:18

Yeah. With one tournament, no,

37:20

but he wins one since

37:22

he's been choking. You

37:25

could call today a joke. Also, Max Homa

37:27

did not hit a person. He hit a tree.

37:29

Yeah. He was very clear about that on the

37:31

record. Although I wish he had hit the person. Yeah. I wish

37:33

because the person was standing right in front of him when he

37:35

was trying to hit a shot. And that's

37:37

Darwinism. He said afterwards, he's like, yeah, I asked

37:40

him to move. And then they just kept on

37:42

reaching closer. The post-match press conference with Max was

37:44

so funny because they asked him about that situation.

37:46

And he had this smile on

37:49

his face and he kept holding himself back. And

37:52

if I'm running it through the Max Homa truth translator,

37:54

he wanted to say so badly, I wish that it

37:56

hit the guy. It is fault for being there. He

37:58

should not have done it. been there, that's

38:00

his problem, not my problem. You should ask him about

38:02

that. Yeah. But the video made it look like it

38:04

just walked him in the head. And

38:07

I was hoping that he got hit in the

38:09

head, but not bad enough to cause a serious

38:11

injury, just enough to teach him a lesson. Yeah.

38:13

Yeah, I agree. So Maxi

38:15

now hit a person. Have I

38:17

killed the guy? Yeah, I mean, there's no way that hits

38:19

him in the head. It doesn't seriously injure

38:21

him. Yeah, there's a person. It hits the thing,

38:23

and then you hear somebody scream like half a

38:25

second later. Yeah. That would have been, I kind

38:27

of wish that it happened. Yeah. OK,

38:30

PFT or who's back? My who's

38:32

back of the week is

38:35

the Titanic. Oh. So I think

38:39

we pitched this on the show to

38:42

Damon John. OK. In Shark Tank, like five

38:44

years ago. But it's been my

38:46

dream to one day recreate the

38:48

Titanic. And by that, I mean build the

38:51

exact same ship again, have it

38:53

leave from the same port on the same day

38:55

of the year, have it sail the exact same

38:57

route as the original Titanic. I like it. And

38:59

have the exact same number of lifeboats on it.

39:01

Have tickets cost the same that they did back

39:03

in the day. The three richest guys in the

39:05

world on there. Yeah, adjusted for inflation. And

39:07

then just see if you can make it. I guarantee

39:09

you that would sell out. People like thrill seekers out

39:12

there. There's a bunch of Titanic freaks out there. We

39:14

saw it with the sub that imploded. Like

39:16

people get legit obsessed with the Titanic. I would

39:18

love to have it be like, like, stowage

39:20

class where it costs like $5 for a ticket. You

39:23

sell 1,000 of those. And then you have like other,

39:26

like, sweets up top that cost $250,000 where

39:28

rich people get to go. Just

39:31

recreate it 100%. But there's an

39:34

Australian billionaire named Clive Palmer. And

39:36

he is planning on building the

39:38

exact replica of

39:41

the Titanic. And he wants to set sail in 2027.

39:45

I hope he does it at the same time of year. Just

39:47

run the whole thing back. See what can

39:49

happen. Well, there's no ice caps anymore, right?

39:52

Maybe by then. We fucked up

39:54

that iceberg. Yeah, we did. That iceberg

39:57

does not exist. Global warming. Titanic?

40:01

Kind of a little bit of a bitch

40:03

made boat when you think about it. Obviously

40:05

because it got destroyed but have you ever

40:07

seen the pictures of the Titanic versus like

40:09

a modern day cruise? It's not as big

40:11

as that. That shit is a fucking joke.

40:14

Yeah, Basil's probably has a boat picture of

40:16

Titanic. Yeah, definitely. That Titanic was mid at

40:18

best. Yeah. So they should make

40:20

this a bigger boat. Yeah, that's what

40:22

I'm saying. Like if you remake the Titanic, everyone's

40:24

gonna look at it and be like, that's it? They

40:26

should? Because in our heads, they're like, biggest boat

40:28

ever. For that one day, like

40:31

on the same day of the journey that

40:33

the Titanic hit the iceberg, they should just

40:35

have the captain blindfolded. Yeah. It's

40:37

like we're going straight ahead. Yeah. And

40:39

can you imagine what a thrill that would be to be on

40:41

that boat? I want this thing to sink so bad. It would

40:43

rock. Especially a billionaire named Clive. It would rock so hard if

40:45

it sank. I'm rooting for it to sink.

40:48

He might be building this just to blow it up and

40:50

be like, it sunk. Yeah, this might be a

40:52

Michael Bay movie. Yeah. Okay, my who's back a

40:54

week, I have two. One is, I should have

40:57

said this during the brackets, but this is

40:59

the funniest time of the year in terms

41:01

of non-sports fans or sports fans because I

41:03

think in NFL season,

41:06

if you aren't a football fan, I think

41:08

most non-football fans, at least respect it. We

41:10

know that's big. We know the

41:12

NFL's big. The NFL is king. There are

41:14

people who just like will never watch a

41:16

college basketball game just out of principle and

41:18

I saw this one guy tweet, you're a

41:20

sick individual if you've been watching college basketball

41:22

all week. It's like, no, this

41:25

is the best. But it's always a

41:27

funny divide because you have people who,

41:29

obviously not listeners to this show, but

41:31

you have people who are just like, this is just another week for

41:33

them. Wow, we are just going to go to

41:35

war. Yeah. Yeah, I love it. Yeah,

41:38

it is. It's really strange. You

41:40

know what I mean? I get into whatever big

41:42

sport is happening at that time. That's how my

41:44

calendar is synched. Right, of course. But you know

41:46

what I mean? When you meet someone who doesn't

41:48

watch the NFL, they're like, oh yeah, well, I

41:50

watch Super Bowl on Rothstein. You

41:52

meet people who don't watch college basketball, they're like,

41:55

what is going on? But I feel like during

41:57

bracket week, yeah, that kind of transcends. Office, yeah.

41:59

You're right, you're right. You get the office

42:01

calls. But conference championship week, you're right. There's a

42:03

lot of people out there that like March, like

42:06

college basketball does not start until the break. Right.

42:09

It's more about conference championship week. They don't understand

42:11

like, wait, you've been watching basketball every day for

42:13

the last five days. It's the exact opposite of

42:15

Joe Lenardi's schedule. All right. So that was a

42:17

segue because my other who's back is Joe Lenardi,

42:20

who's now no longer back because it's golf season.

42:22

Joe Lenardi. I thought I

42:24

liked this guy. Have we had him on? I don't think so. I

42:26

think, you know what? He reached out to us

42:29

maybe year two of part of my take. And

42:32

I think we were going to put him on the show, but he was like, the

42:35

thing is, I'm actually like swamped until the third week of

42:37

March so I can come on the third week of March.

42:39

And then we were like, wait a second. What the fuck

42:41

are we going to talk to Joe Lenardi about during

42:44

the NCAA tournament? Right. Like

42:46

his job is done by then. He doesn't even, he

42:48

doesn't even, I don't think he

42:50

watches the NCAA tournament. He was also

42:52

getting community noted because he was putting

42:54

in like wins. He had Virginia winning

42:57

against NC State. They didn't get Illinois

42:59

losing to Nebraska. They didn't, but Joe

43:01

Lenardi on Friday night after

43:04

making Virginia the winner, uh,

43:06

tweeted danger time for UVA and good

43:08

night for me. Joe Lenardi

43:11

has to work three weeks a year. And

43:14

he said good night at 1057 during

43:16

conference championship week on Friday night when

43:18

there was like six games left. What

43:20

is up with this guy? I think, I think he

43:23

hates his brackets. Yeah. He also

43:25

said, I think Joe Lenardi is trapped in his

43:27

own personal hell. Like the one thing that he

43:29

has to do all day, every day he hates

43:31

doing, which is watching college basketball. Right. And

43:34

he was the first to do it and everyone respects him

43:36

and ESPN employs him, but like a million people do brackets

43:38

now. Shout out bracket matrix that compiles it all. He

43:41

had, you know, a couple hours before,

43:43

uh, the brackets came out. He

43:45

said two hours, actually two days until golf

43:47

season. He's just so excited to be done

43:49

with this stuff. And then he

43:51

also said, uh, this is grumpy time for

43:53

him right now. It was like right before

43:55

the brackets come out, he's as grumpy

43:57

as it gets. What is up with this guy?

44:00

Does he not? Bro, you gotta

44:02

love what you do. Yeah, it's like if Hank's

44:04

job was to read all the time That's

44:06

what he's treating this like I was shocked

44:09

and he might not even watch the

44:11

games this week I don't know his job is done like

44:13

Joe Joe Lunardi's Usefulness runs out at exactly

44:16

this time. Yeah, it's over. Yeah, and Max

44:18

was here on Friday night We were just

44:20

we're like, what do you mean good night?

44:22

I was furious. What do you mean good

44:24

night? Your job is to

44:27

watch the games and decide the bracket

44:29

for us. You are going to sleep.

44:31

We had Max

44:33

when he tweeted that I think you and I

44:35

both stayed up for another five hours Yeah, I

44:37

mean the Arlington game was unbelievable. It went forever

44:39

and it was incredible Yeah, New Mexico and Colorado

44:41

hadn't even tipped off yet and they were both

44:43

bubble teams good night How are you supposed to

44:45

make a judgment on who should be in and

44:47

who should be out if you won't even watch

44:49

the games on? Championship

44:52

we careful Max. He's an

44:54

Italian We were literally come across like a

44:56

BBS. We were just screaming. What do you

44:58

mean good night? You can't go to sleep

45:01

This is your job. It's five days

45:03

a year that he has to stay up that late Yeah,

45:06

what he needs to realize is that with one

45:08

snap of the fingers that freak Steve kornacki could

45:10

step into his job and do It better. I've

45:12

always been a Jerry Palm guy myself that fucking

45:14

piece. He has on his head just rocks I

45:16

like just goes out there with authority. You're like,

45:19

dude, what are you wearing? I like Charlie cream.

45:21

I'm on the cream team Yeah,

45:23

yeah, so let's let's normalize other guys.

45:25

Yeah, I think so I was thinking

45:27

about the upcoming College

45:29

football season I think Blake his line is

45:31

gonna be he's gonna be a bracketologist for

45:33

football Cuz nobody's doing that

45:35

yet. Yeah, I'm gonna be the first. Yeah That's

45:38

as long as the Lunardi's not doing it. No, he

45:40

hates his job Good

45:43

night You don't fucking say

45:45

good night to us at 1057 on

45:47

Friday night of conference championship week. What

45:49

do you mean? Good night? Yeah Well, it was

45:51

it was midnight on the East

45:54

Coast. This was an after he had put Virginia

45:56

as a win Yeah, it's tough tough night for

45:58

real tough. Okay, Jake is

46:00

still taping with Titus, we can

46:02

ask him who's back when he gets back here. Let's

46:05

get to John Rothstein, talk

46:07

a little more college basketball. Also got to talk some

46:09

tweets with John Rothstein because he's had a bunch recently

46:12

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47:59

John Ross. Okay,

48:02

we now welcome on a very, very

48:05

special guest, recurring guest.

48:08

It is John Rothstein. You can find him

48:10

on CBS Sports. You can hear his podcast

48:12

College Hoops today. It

48:15

is a tradition unlike any other. We have

48:17

John Rothstein to break down his regions, talk

48:19

brackets, but before we do that, John, how

48:22

are you feeling after Shaka Smart just outed

48:24

you for being a serial texter to him

48:27

on national television for people who missed. John

48:30

asked him about Tyler Kolick and

48:33

whether he'd be playing and Shaka

48:35

said, should I answer this now or should I

48:37

wait till you text me every single morning? How

48:40

are you feeling? You know, hey, look,

48:42

I hope that cat everybody who meets me and

48:44

I think probably most people feel this. I feel

48:46

I'm one of the most relentless people that they've

48:48

met in the history of their life. Look, nothing

48:50

was given to me. Nothing obviously was

48:53

put in front of me and said, okay, take this. This

48:55

is yours. The only way I know

48:57

how to live life is to go through every

48:59

life each and every day like I've accomplished nothing.

49:01

And the way in life to accomplish everything is

49:04

to wake up each and every day believing that

49:06

you accomplished nothing. Oh, every day is a gift.

49:08

Wait, sir. Every person told me that. Oh, lovely.

49:11

Wait, so every day you wake up and you're like, I have

49:13

not texted Shaka Smart ever in my life. Essentially.

49:17

No, I was following up with him this

49:19

past week, obviously about Kolick's injury

49:21

news. And we spoke before the big East tournament.

49:24

He said, there's no news right now. I'll let

49:26

you know if that changes and so on and

49:28

so forth. But I can never go

49:31

through life feeling

49:33

like I could have done more in

49:36

my vocation and in my effort. So what I

49:38

mean by that is, you know, I believe

49:41

it was Salvador Dali who said, have no

49:43

fear of perfection. You'll never reach it. We're

49:45

getting deep and philosophical here on the first

49:47

question, but why not? We're close. Yeah,

49:49

I like that. I think the way you have to

49:51

look at it is I could never live with myself

49:54

about like, well, I could have done X, Y or

49:56

Z to be better. And I didn't do that. So

49:59

now I look at. things and I say you

50:01

know what I have to always make sure that

50:03

I'm stretching things out as much as I can

50:05

giving my best effort and if the chips don't

50:07

fall on your favor the chips don't fall on

50:09

your favor you're never gonna be able to be

50:11

on top of everything but you can never not

50:13

give your best effort in life as you know

50:16

from one of our favorite movies that we share

50:18

together one of most celestial salons most underrated movies

50:20

over the top the world needs nobody halfway yeah

50:22

and you you do not you live that you

50:24

live that mantra and sometimes to

50:26

your personal life's detriment because I was

50:28

made aware of this tweet of yours a

50:31

couple hours ago I wanted to follow up make sure that

50:33

you're doing okay personally because I

50:35

believe this was Friday you tweeted problems

50:37

at home yeah been so dialed in that

50:39

my wife took our six-month-old girl with her

50:42

to a work trip on the West Coast

50:44

I hope they come back but

50:46

if they don't dying on your sword is

50:48

worth it when you con st. John's is

50:50

24 hours away at MSG remember life is

50:52

about choices so are you single is

50:55

this the is this the like look out ladies John

50:57

Rothstein ready to get back at it no

50:59

but the truth of the matter is this my wife

51:01

you know I've got a really busy stretch as you

51:03

guys know I was doing TV tonight I had to

51:05

do my own podcast I'm on with you guys I

51:07

have more TV in the morning then I'm flying out

51:09

to Dayton for the first four and then

51:11

I'm going to another site from there but she was

51:13

like all right I get it that this is March

51:15

every month is March for me because I have a

51:17

job too and I have my own career and she's

51:19

like you know what I'm putting the baby to sleep

51:21

and I'm sleeping in a different room tonight because I

51:24

don't want to hear about these brackets I'll watch the

51:26

game socially but that's it and I go that's fine

51:28

so March season drives a rift I think you know

51:30

yeah in the house a little bit

51:32

like people don't understand that like it's a really

51:34

big deal that Duquesne hasn't been to the tournament

51:36

since 77 which is the same year that Star

51:38

Wars first at theaters but I have learned this

51:41

and you guys tell me if I'm wrong nobody

51:43

is perfect not even my wife who I

51:46

love the pieces but at the end of

51:48

the day you are who you are in

51:50

life and at this point you guys know

51:52

me well enough I'm not changing so if

51:54

I for years have felt that the most

51:57

underrated rivalry with st. John's Yukon and it

51:59

was untapped because St. John's who didn't

52:01

make the NCAA tournament hasn't won an NCAA

52:03

tournament game since 2000 when

52:06

Mike Jarvis led St. John's over

52:08

Northern Arizona in Tucson when Northern

52:10

Arizona had a very dangerous center

52:12

named Dan McClintock. I

52:14

am not gonna back down on the fact that I

52:16

was still waiting to see if St. John's could get

52:19

the Friday Night at the Big East tournament to play

52:21

UConn who again has become a team

52:23

that is operating on a Calhoun level

52:25

under Dan Hurley. Yes, no, hey listen,

52:27

we have busy seasons, football season, we

52:30

have a lot of stuff that falls

52:32

in different directions, so we understand, I

52:34

wanna follow up with one other. We

52:36

had your back on the other tweet

52:39

where you said you lost a friend because

52:41

you didn't go to their engagement party. I don't

52:43

know if you heard what we said on our

52:46

show, but we said engagement parties are bullshit. Guys

52:49

should never be like, I can't believe you didn't

52:51

come to my engagement party. That's point John Rothstein,

52:53

you made the right choice. But

52:55

also, and you guys know this, when you

52:57

do what we do, you don't

53:00

say no to work. You don't say

53:02

no when you have opportunities because

53:04

especially in you guys know this, when you're

53:06

starting out, if you say no, you may

53:08

never get another opportunity. This guy

53:10

who again was a pseudo friend I would say

53:12

when I went to college, he was friendly,

53:16

hey, do you wanna go to a Nick game or

53:18

whatever, kinda friendly, but then when I started having more

53:20

opportunities in my career, he's like, hey, my brother really

53:22

wants to get in the talk radio, and we come

53:24

by and see the station. And it's like a friend

53:26

of convenience, and you get invited to the wedding, and

53:29

you're happy that your pseudo friend is having

53:31

success, but you're not gonna say, no, I'm

53:34

gonna come to your engagement party instead of

53:37

going to a final four when Butler was

53:39

playing VCU and UConn was playing Kentucky, and

53:41

Shabazz Napier and Jeremy Lamb were freshmen at

53:43

UConn. Right, and that friend's name, Jonathan Bosco.

53:46

Yeah, look where it ended up.

53:49

Who's Jonathan Bosco? You can put it together with a last

53:51

name. Okay, fair enough. That's

53:54

all you, BFB, I'm not going down that rabbit hole.

53:56

Yeah, we had your back, all right, so let's get into

53:58

it, let's dive into it. I know

54:00

you always like to put names on the

54:03

bracket on the region, so we're just going

54:05

to hand it to you. You

54:07

drive. We'll insert ourselves here and

54:10

there with questions, but let's rip

54:12

it off. All right, well,

54:14

let's start now in the top left right

54:16

now, which is the east region. Yukon is

54:18

the one seed, and I look at the

54:21

makeup of the coaches in this region as

54:23

having such fiery personalities. Dan Hurley is your

54:25

one seed. He's a also burgher's the two.

54:27

He looks like he could step it in

54:30

octagon and fight Ken Shamrock right now. Brad

54:32

Underwood at three is a coach who keeps

54:34

a treadmill in the gym at practice, and

54:36

if a coach and the players and playing

54:39

well, he makes sure they get gets on

54:41

and obviously hits the treadmill. Duquesne is Pittsburgh

54:43

tough at 11. Auburn, one

54:45

of the toughest teams in the country,

54:47

one of the hardest playing players in

54:50

the country in Katie Johnson. San Diego

54:52

State is also a very hard playing

54:54

time for hard playing team at the

54:56

five seed. I see ruthless, hard nosed

54:58

competitive teams in this region, and I

55:00

see the region of gladiators led by

55:03

the coach of the one seed, in

55:05

my opinion, the favorite in the NCAA

55:07

tournament, Dan Hurley. And Dan Hurley, probably

55:09

in his own mind, feels like he's

55:11

a little bit like Russell Crowe

55:14

and gladiator in this NCAA tournament. Brother

55:16

to a famous point guard, son

55:18

of a famous father, and even though he won

55:21

a national championship last year, he will have his

55:23

vengeance in this tournament of the next. Okay,

55:26

I like that. I like that the

55:28

gladiator region. So can

55:30

you tell us what just missed for this

55:32

region? Because how quickly do you

55:35

come up with the names? And was there anything

55:37

you were workshopping? Because I'd love to see the

55:39

drafts. I'd love to see what was like, ah,

55:42

this was so close. But, you know, Iowa

55:45

State doesn't really fit this or BYU doesn't

55:47

really make sense here. So was there was

55:49

there a name that you were toying with

55:51

before you came up with gladiators? Well, I

55:54

was looking up and down, obviously, this region.

55:58

And I was just saying, oh my God. Like,

56:00

you know, Iowa State is so tough and Dan

56:02

Hurley is such a personality and you know, we

56:05

have Bruce Perle who's such a personality and so

56:07

fiery and then you have obviously, you know, the

56:09

Brad Underwood stuff He's such a personality and you

56:11

Cain and Pittsburgh and it's such a story for

56:13

them to get there for the first time since

56:15

77 I almost went with the region

56:18

of Hutzpah. Oh Okay, I

56:20

like early. I need the I know I

56:22

need whatever cut, you know Is

56:24

on the drawing or in the drafts for each

56:26

one of these reasons There's almost the region of

56:28

Hutzpah But I went with the region of gladiators

56:31

because I think you have the Dan Hurley element

56:33

of again Even though he won a national title

56:35

Brother to a famous point guard son of a

56:37

famous coach and even though he won a national

56:39

title He will seek his vengeance in this tournament

56:41

of the next. Oh, yeah I also think in

56:44

your flow chart it it really helps if it

56:46

can line up with a movie that would fit

56:48

right in at Like 2 p.m. On a Saturday

56:50

afternoon has a varying on TNT, right? I'm at

56:52

least 20 years or more Yes, right

56:54

later came out in 2000. Yeah, that's 20

56:57

years or more. That's right. Yeah All

56:59

right. Who do you have coming out of this region? I've

57:03

got you con guys. I mean you con is going

57:05

to be playing and I've been talking about this for

57:07

weeks In situations where

57:09

you con is not going to have to get

57:11

on a plane to go to a final

57:13

for Stores

57:16

to Brooklyn win two games there

57:18

back the stores win two games

57:20

in Boston But I will

57:22

say this if Auburn Can

57:25

find its way to Boston there in the sweet 16 I

57:28

think you con against Auburn in that sweet 16

57:30

in Boston has a chance to be one of

57:33

the best games of the entire Tournament, I don't

57:35

know if you remember this cat or PFC They

57:37

played a couple of years ago in the first

57:39

round of the battle for Atlantis And

57:41

it was one of the best games that we had

57:43

that season of that cat I think it was Thanksgiving

57:45

Eve it was I was at the park in Brooklyn

57:48

with my kids I think I I

57:50

think I had two kids I was

57:52

with my son and it was like what

57:54

two over times and I had a lot of money

57:56

on that game Was it two over times? That

57:59

was I think two overtime. Yeah, it was

58:01

definitely an overtime. I remember it well. That was

58:04

a great game. So there's a lot of conference

58:06

champions in this bracket. Do you put any stock

58:08

into them fading out of the tournament? There

58:11

are two sides to that. I mean, we

58:13

look at what happened, obviously, with Purdue in

58:15

the past. We've seen it work both ways.

58:17

It's obviously great momentum for some teams. UConn

58:20

in 2011 won five in five days with

58:22

Kemba Walker and then won six games in

58:24

the NCAA tournament. I think

58:26

there's some of that. I also think

58:29

that you look at the bottom of

58:32

this region, you've got the

58:34

two three seed

58:36

is massive. I mean, Iowa State on Sunday, I

58:38

had forecasted as my fourth number one seed. And

58:40

Illinois is a team that I felt for about

58:43

a month could be a dark horse final four

58:45

team. So I'm looking at the

58:47

scenario at the bottom of that region as being

58:49

a dynamite, dynamite region here. So who did you

58:51

have dropping out if you had Iowa State as

58:53

number one seed? I had North Carolina dropping out.

58:55

Huh. I saw a lot

58:57

of people online saying that you were a moron for that.

59:04

Would you like to defend yourself against those people? I

59:06

don't look at my mentions. I haven't looked at my mentions since 2017. That's

59:09

smart. That's smart. What

59:11

about the people that say Duquesne was lazily

59:15

seeded because it seems like

59:17

the committee basically said whoever

59:19

wins VCU Duquesne, who the

59:22

11th seed, VCU would make more sense than

59:24

the 11th seed. Oh, shit, we already filled

59:26

out our whole bracket. We'll just put in

59:28

Duquesne when they clearly are the weakest of

59:31

the 11 seeds resume wise. And actually, a

59:33

lot of 12 seeds have better resumes. Well,

59:35

look at this right now for a sec,

59:37

guys. The 11th seed,

59:39

Duquesne, bid stealer out of the eight ten.

59:42

New Mexico, we learned later, was a bid

59:44

stealer out of the Mountain West. I thought

59:46

New Mexico should have been in regardless. NC

59:48

State, bid stealer out of the ACC. In

59:51

Oregon, the 11th seed

59:53

in the Midwest, bottom right, was a

59:55

bid stealer. So it almost feels like

59:57

the 11th seed slots all just

1:00:00

Went to the bids dealers yeah interesting a

1:00:02

my view and happened. Okay so I'm if

1:00:04

the will. If you haven't if you haven't,

1:00:06

read your notifications are your mention city doesn't

1:00:08

seventeen? Did you ever think that maybe there's

1:00:10

like a young John Ross sea otter that

1:00:13

wakes up every day. And tweets at

1:00:15

you. And inside interact with you

1:00:17

in the same way. your deal with coaches

1:00:19

and they're just powder head against a wall.

1:00:21

There's some a name for themselves on I

1:00:23

have any I have an email he can

1:00:25

reach of. The guys are hankered. take any

1:00:27

organ potter them our our guy on. add

1:00:29

anything you know how to help you know

1:00:31

younger people achieve their passing like we've been

1:00:33

fortunate. The Okay so any upsets come out

1:00:35

this India in the first two rounds I've

1:00:37

got to Kane beating B Y U. That.

1:00:40

A little bit of an upset and

1:00:42

it's not an upset I'm going to

1:00:44

take here, but I mean it in

1:00:47

terms of the seed. But I think

1:00:49

consider how poorly Florida Atlantic play and

1:00:51

losing the Temple, I think a lot

1:00:53

of people are gonna fade Florida Atlantic.

1:00:56

I think Northwestern you had known as

1:00:58

being in Chicago is severely severely limited

1:01:00

after losing tie buried with season ending

1:01:02

injury and that Northwestern has also been

1:01:05

without Matthew Nicholson, who has been a

1:01:07

stalwart inside for them during this two

1:01:09

year run. He has been out

1:01:11

for a number of a number of

1:01:13

games ominous a Florida Atlantic. The

1:01:16

Beat Northwestern. I talked obviously upper

1:01:18

a long time about Auburn cause

1:01:20

I love Auburn and I really

1:01:22

love the matchup for jail. but

1:01:24

James Jones has a good ballclub.

1:01:26

At yeah I think over and it's too deep

1:01:28

for that. But my upset in this region as

1:01:30

detain beating B Y U in and Eleven six

1:01:33

I think we have to remember this new guy.

1:01:35

Get this. B. Y U for the most

1:01:37

part with a team. That. It was recruited

1:01:39

to play in the West Coast Conference and

1:01:41

now you have a team and detain who

1:01:44

just won the Atlantic Ten. There is not

1:01:46

the conference gap. That. They're probably

1:01:48

would be in your normal six eleven

1:01:50

when you have a big Steeler. Something

1:01:52

can detain right there. but I've got

1:01:54

Yukon, Auburn, Illinois. I was state in

1:01:57

my sweet sixteen, the regional gladiators and

1:01:59

I've got. Mcconnell were Illinois in

1:02:01

the Elite Eight. Okay, okay I

1:02:03

next region. Wherever.

1:02:05

You want to go? Bottom. Left will stay

1:02:08

on the left side of a bracket. The.

1:02:11

West Region which is played in Los

1:02:13

Angeles. And because it played Los Angeles

1:02:16

it should fittingly be called The Reason

1:02:18

of Drama. Know why? Is it the

1:02:20

Reason of drama? Well, let's look right

1:02:23

now. We. The one seat

1:02:25

is North Carolina obviously. Two.

1:02:27

Years ago played for a national Champs

1:02:30

of Lot. The Kansas had the dramatic.

1:02:33

Season. Last year were missed. The infeasible

1:02:35

tournament now does than a complete one

1:02:37

eighty with who is the to see

1:02:39

Arizona And that means if the seeds

1:02:42

hold. In Southern California and

1:02:44

it's a one to we would

1:02:46

have Caleb love. Going up

1:02:48

against. His former team where

1:02:50

the right to go to the

1:02:52

final four. That is the reason

1:02:54

of drama you look at be

1:02:56

other characteristics of this region. You've.

1:02:59

Got drama with New Mexico. a team

1:03:01

that had to play well at the

1:03:03

mouth was tournament after losing the Air

1:03:06

Force in obviously a very very brutal

1:03:08

last couple weeks ago. You also have

1:03:10

drama with St. Mary's rarely bad flub,

1:03:12

starts eight and six. then it goes

1:03:15

Ruff the Wc see like a chainsaw

1:03:17

through butter a get the five seats.

1:03:19

It wins the Wc see regular season

1:03:21

and also tournament titles say Mary's Have

1:03:24

not been to the second weekend the

1:03:26

Dnc Double A tournaments since twenty ten

1:03:28

with all. More Sandman Mickey Mcconnell, Matthew

1:03:30

Dellavedova when they beat Richmond in Villanova

1:03:33

back to back in Providence and any

1:03:35

got Tom Izzo in this region as

1:03:37

well who again is always you know

1:03:39

a great quote, always opinionated. He's a

1:03:42

very dramatic guy but the big headline

1:03:44

for the reason of drama is the

1:03:46

potential North Carolina Arizona Taleb love against

1:03:48

the story of match up in the

1:03:51

Elite Eight in the west region. Therefore

1:03:53

the reason a drama ah how much

1:03:55

will you think is was gonna stick

1:03:57

around. oh i don't see him not

1:04:00

I don't think Tom Izzo could not coach.

1:04:02

He almost I think Izzo in some

1:04:04

ways enjoys the adversity more

1:04:07

than the actual success because the

1:04:09

adversity then it forces you to

1:04:11

have the truly brutal practice the

1:04:13

next day and Getting back the

1:04:15

respectability. So what missed the cut

1:04:17

in this region? What were we

1:04:19

thinking about when we saw it? As

1:04:21

soon as I saw that it was being played

1:04:23

in Los Angeles and as soon as I saw

1:04:26

there was a chance that Arizona could play North

1:04:28

Carolina in the Elite Eight. I said hands

1:04:30

down. This is the region of drama There's nothing else

1:04:32

to talk about. It's so dramatic And

1:04:34

again life is not obviously a movie But

1:04:37

this would feel like a movie if we

1:04:39

have Caleb Love against North Carolina going up

1:04:41

against RJ Davis and Baycott Guys, he went

1:04:43

to the National Championship game with two years

1:04:45

ago Yeah, so hold on that that feels

1:04:48

like kind of like the selection committee screwed

1:04:50

up by just like oh We'll just put

1:04:52

Duquesne in at the lemon seed When

1:04:54

you found out that it was gonna be LA what like

1:04:56

when did they announce the sights like a year ago? Was

1:04:59

that always gonna be the drama? In

1:05:02

LA? Yeah, no, but but the matchup, okay. All right

1:05:04

matchup, you know, I want to make sure I want

1:05:06

to make sure you're not You know, we're not like

1:05:08

you could maybe tell us what the regions are next

1:05:11

year based on where they're being played I'm not there

1:05:13

yet, right? I'm taking a one day one year at

1:05:15

a time So if we're looking at this like a

1:05:17

movie, who's the good guy though? Is

1:05:20

Caleb Love the good guy or is it his

1:05:22

teammates and then Caleb Love walks out

1:05:24

the door on him? Caleb Love is I

1:05:26

think has gotten a bad rap. I think Caleb Love

1:05:28

is perceived to be the bad guy, but he's not

1:05:30

I went to Arizona and you know spent some time

1:05:33

with him the preseason Wonderful guys

1:05:35

had a great year, you know packed well

1:05:37

player of the year played like an All-American

1:05:39

I just think that it would be

1:05:41

compelling compelling theater if that's the case I

1:05:43

mean look both of these teams got to

1:05:45

go through really good teams to get to

1:05:47

that point I'll say this guys. I'm looking

1:05:49

at North Carolina. Now the game will be

1:05:51

played in Charlotte, but whoever

1:05:53

North Carolina gets Mississippi

1:05:56

State or Michigan State in

1:05:58

that round of 32 game That

1:06:00

is a bear of a game to get

1:06:03

to the Sweet 16. Now

1:06:05

I think America is going to

1:06:07

be taking Michigan State in this game because

1:06:09

of Tom Izzo. That's what people from the

1:06:11

periphery do. I am going with Mississippi State.

1:06:13

I am going with Chris Jans, the dentist,

1:06:15

who will give you a root canal without

1:06:17

the Novocain when he gets the chance. Guys,

1:06:19

let's look at Chris Jans here in the

1:06:21

NCAA tournament. New Mexico State, he beat

1:06:24

UConn two years ago. Last year, he

1:06:26

got Mississippi State to the NCAA tournament. Lost on the

1:06:28

last possession in the first quarter pitch. Now he's back.

1:06:31

The dentist is doing work, Kat. I like him. He's

1:06:34

a very good dentist, though. He sounds like

1:06:36

he's a torturer. Yeah, I like it. All

1:06:39

right. Let's part it. He's a

1:06:41

really good defensive coach, PFC. Yeah, although their defense hasn't

1:06:43

been as good as it was last year. Fair enough.

1:06:46

Fair enough. I guess he took some tweaks out.

1:06:49

But again, a little bit better offensively. The

1:06:51

guy you want to keep an eye on for Mississippi State,

1:06:53

a guy who I think could be a real star, as

1:06:56

in people who are coming from the periphery, is

1:06:58

Josh Hubbard, 5'10 freshman from Mississippi State. I believe

1:07:01

he scored over 4,000 points in high school. Ooh.

1:07:06

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go to the top right? The.

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South Region. The Region

1:08:51

of Firepower And I'm looking at

1:08:53

this region and I'm seeing elite

1:08:56

perimeters, an elite score and power

1:08:58

use. Ah, Didn't play well

1:09:00

against I would say the Big Twelve

1:09:02

tournament title game. Tremendous for guards sets

1:09:04

tremendous guard play, tremendous firepower. You know

1:09:06

about Nebraska with Fred Hoiberg. We love

1:09:08

case a time when I got another

1:09:10

player I think captivate the contrary in

1:09:12

spurts where those suits Nebraska by the

1:09:14

way have never won an Nc double

1:09:16

A tournament game that on the line

1:09:18

for thou they don't have sex with

1:09:20

day and am who has that Dynamite

1:09:22

backward for busboy comes with way tell

1:09:24

the fourth entire is Radford and they

1:09:26

can really really score at a Dynamite

1:09:29

First. Round game And guys I'm going to be at

1:09:31

that game. You know do inside. lived in Memphis. We.

1:09:34

Got then Wisconsin. The.

1:09:36

best offensive theme of the gray guard

1:09:38

era with aj store against james madison

1:09:40

of can be a trendy twelve five

1:09:42

yup any at duke against vermont duke

1:09:44

is duke and cat doesn't want to

1:09:46

your that we've got kentucky the best

1:09:49

scoring team of the calipari error and

1:09:51

then if you look at the bottom

1:09:53

right in the region of firepower you've

1:09:55

got florida new get a lot their

1:09:57

center micah hand logged in the were

1:10:00

an injury on Sunday, a leg injury

1:10:02

against Auburn, but they're gonna probably go

1:10:04

in against the winner of Colorado Boise

1:10:06

State, Colorado a potent offensive team, and

1:10:08

then Marquette's the two, Chaka

1:10:10

Smart as you know saying on CBS

1:10:12

Sports Network that they're planning on Tyler

1:10:14

Cola coming back, there is major, major

1:10:16

fire power in that region. I have

1:10:19

loved Florida's ability to score the ball

1:10:22

throughout obviously this season, they're a

1:10:24

little bit different now upfront without hand logged

1:10:26

in, but you look at the offensive capabilities

1:10:28

of the teams in this region, it is

1:10:31

exquisite. Yeah, yeah, I

1:10:33

mean, PFT and I obviously were

1:10:35

going up against each other in the first round, then

1:10:37

you got Jake and Hank going up against each other,

1:10:39

this is gonna be a fun region. Yeah, can you

1:10:42

give us a pick for JMU Wisconsin? I know you

1:10:44

said people on the periphery, people on the outside, trendy

1:10:46

12-5 pick for JMU, does that

1:10:48

mean that you're going to Wisconsin? I'm

1:10:50

gonna take Wisconsin. I like Wisconsin to

1:10:52

play Duke in a rematch

1:10:54

of the 2015 National Title Game at

1:10:57

the Barclays Center. I've got Houston, and

1:10:59

then obviously I think A&M beats Nebraska.

1:11:01

I love the way A&M is playing

1:11:03

even though they lost a little early.

1:11:05

Nebraska again, never won an NCAA tournament

1:11:07

game. I'll take Texas Tech over NC

1:11:10

State, Kentucky over Oakland. I

1:11:12

got Florida playing Marquette, I

1:11:14

would take Florida over Marquette. Ooh,

1:11:17

that's a little bit, I'm gonna break it open

1:11:19

a little bit there. Then I'm gonna have Kentucky,

1:11:21

Florida in the Sweet 16 and SEC games. I'm

1:11:24

going to take Wisconsin

1:11:27

to beat Duke. And

1:11:30

then I'm gonna take Houston to play Wisconsin,

1:11:32

and I've got Houston beating Kentucky in the

1:11:34

Elite Eight in the region of firepower. Okay,

1:11:36

how about this? If JMU beats Wisconsin, can

1:11:39

JMU get a John Rothsteinism? Can you come

1:11:41

up with something for Harrisonburg? Well,

1:11:43

I can't force Rothsteinisms. Rothsteinisms are things that

1:11:45

can't be forced. Yeah, but if they beat

1:11:48

Wisconsin, if they shock

1:11:50

the world, if these JMU Dukes, if they

1:11:52

beat the Badgers. I don't

1:11:54

have a Rothsteinism for Kansas, Kentucky, Gonzaga.

1:11:56

I mean, they've done a little bit

1:11:58

more than JMU. Yeah,

1:12:00

so far. What was your last rostinism that you

1:12:02

came up with? I'd

1:12:05

have to go back and look at things in the lab,

1:12:07

but you know, one of the things

1:12:09

that you know, got a lot of play today

1:12:11

was the Keith Danbrot one because nobody for a

1:12:13

long time cared about Duquesne. Yeah. But

1:12:16

when Keith Danbrot took Duquesne's job, I called it

1:12:18

Mission Impossible. And then did Duquesne,

1:12:20

like a count, you know, tweeted today

1:12:22

Mission Accomplished. Oh. Because Duquesne hadn't been

1:12:24

to the hat. I love that. Yeah. Duquesne

1:12:27

hasn't been to the tournament since 77, so Mission Impossible

1:12:30

got accomplished. But yeah, you know, I don't just come

1:12:32

up with them and throw it out. Everybody knows, like,

1:12:34

oh, I want to tag, I want to tag, I

1:12:36

want to tag, it's not that easy. What

1:12:38

about Dan those out? Harrisonburg, more than just meth.

1:12:42

What about that? You like that one? That means no.

1:12:45

I think that would be good. Harrisonburg, the

1:12:47

Las Vegas of Central Virginia. That's

1:12:51

not what I've heard about Harrisonburg. Oh, well, my friend,

1:12:53

you have not spent time at Figgins Cove when they

1:12:55

get the SIGs inside and the Jell-O shot's going. Fair

1:12:58

enough. I have a feeling that you

1:13:00

might have had enough for me during your cent tenure there. How long was

1:13:02

it? Four years, exactly four years.

1:13:05

Thanks, John. That was a really mean question.

1:13:07

Yeah. Throw it at the check. All

1:13:09

right. So what about the last one, Midwest? Well,

1:13:12

the Midwest region is

1:13:15

the region of tension. Ooh, okay. Now,

1:13:17

why is it the region of tension? Well, your one

1:13:19

seed is Purdue. Your

1:13:22

two seed is Tennessee, who

1:13:24

has not been past

1:13:26

the Sweet 16 under Rick

1:13:28

Barnes. Your fourth seed is

1:13:30

Kansas, who again, did not

1:13:33

have both Kevin McCullough and

1:13:35

Hunter Dickinson available for the

1:13:37

Big 12 tournament. So

1:13:40

there's a lot of tension in this region right

1:13:42

now. And I also think, you

1:13:46

know, when you look at the one seeds, guys, I

1:13:49

think the path for Purdue, and

1:13:51

I know you have to obviously take this with a grain of

1:13:53

salt because nothing is easy for Purdue in March. I

1:13:56

think the path for Purdue is very

1:13:59

favorable. to at least get to the Elite

1:14:01

Eight. The first two games are at

1:14:03

Gamebridge Fieldhouse in Indianapolis. You're going to play

1:14:06

the winner of Utah State in TCU second.

1:14:08

And then if you win there, your

1:14:11

five and your four are Gonzaga,

1:14:13

which is the most vulnerable Gonzaga theme

1:14:15

we've had since 2016. Then

1:14:17

you have Kansas, we discussed, without McCullough, without

1:14:19

Dickinson, potentially in the big... Well, they didn't

1:14:21

play in the Big 12 tournament, but they're

1:14:23

obviously very wounded. I mean, it's not a

1:14:26

great Kansas theme, even if those two players

1:14:28

play. I'd be shocked if Purdue doesn't get

1:14:30

to the Elite Eight. I know that's saying

1:14:33

a lot considering the way things have gone in the

1:14:35

NCAA tournament. And then the bottom, I'm

1:14:38

looking at Creighton being an underrated

1:14:40

team. I think they lost early in the

1:14:42

Big East tournament that changed things. And then

1:14:45

also, if Texas wins and Tennessee wins, we

1:14:47

could have a game in the round of

1:14:49

32, Rick Barnes against his old school and

1:14:51

against his former assistant, Rodney Terrick. Okay,

1:14:55

so what was... Reason attention. What was... was there

1:14:57

anything else that we were going to name this

1:14:59

region? When

1:15:01

I saw Purdue and

1:15:05

Tennessee together, it was either the region of tension or

1:15:07

the region of pressure, but I thought tension was better.

1:15:09

Oh. So that a little bit more. So which of

1:15:12

these teams is best equipped to handle tension? Well,

1:15:15

if history tells you anything, it might not be any of

1:15:17

them, but I would say Creighton. Oh.

1:15:20

I think Creighton's the dark horse in this

1:15:23

region. I'm going to say Creighton to get

1:15:25

to the Elite Eight and lose to Purdue.

1:15:27

I'm going to... I think that Purdue will

1:15:29

exercise the demon, much like Virginia in 2019

1:15:31

after losing to UMBC and get to a

1:15:33

Final Four. Okay. All right. So your Final

1:15:35

Four and then maybe give us your national

1:15:37

champion. I am

1:15:39

going to go with UConn out of the

1:15:41

region of gladiators. I'm going to go with

1:15:43

Arizona out of the region of drama. I'm

1:15:45

going to go with Houston out of the

1:15:47

region of firepower and then Purdue out of

1:15:49

the region of tension. And I like UConn

1:15:52

over Purdue clinging against EDI, a battle of

1:15:54

the Titans in the title game, and UConn

1:15:56

led by Dan Hurley, as we said, brother

1:15:58

to a famous point guard. son of

1:16:00

a famous coach getting his vengeance in this

1:16:02

tournament of the next will be coming the

1:16:05

first back-to-back national champion since Florida in 2006

1:16:08

and 2007. Okay, all right. Do

1:16:10

you have any comment about the Big

1:16:12

E's getting fucked over? Well

1:16:16

the thing is this

1:16:19

and Murphy's law sometimes happens with

1:16:21

the NCAA tournament in terms of the bubble

1:16:23

situation. The Big E's

1:16:26

started championship week with

1:16:28

seven teams in play for the NCAA tournament.

1:16:30

Now the thing was the Big

1:16:33

E's all season long had

1:16:35

a number of teams in play but

1:16:37

so many teams were tied up with the

1:16:39

bubble so there were only

1:16:41

three teams all year long that

1:16:44

separated themselves and we had

1:16:46

a Murphy's law type situation for bubble

1:16:48

teams. Now what do I mean by that? If

1:16:51

Florida Atlantic won

1:16:53

the AAC tournament we

1:16:56

would have seen one bit open up because they are

1:16:58

in a large team. If Dayton

1:17:00

won the A10 tournament we would

1:17:02

have seen an at-large

1:17:05

bid open up because Dayton was already projected as

1:17:07

in that large team so that's two bids right

1:17:09

there and then if NC

1:17:11

State didn't win the ACC

1:17:13

tournament we would

1:17:15

have seen that large bid open up and

1:17:17

then if Oregon didn't win the Pac-12

1:17:20

tournament we would have seen that large

1:17:22

bid open up that's four and then we

1:17:24

found out tonight if New Mexico

1:17:27

didn't win the Mountain

1:17:30

West tournament we would have seen that large

1:17:32

bid open up. That's five bids in five

1:17:34

spots for other teams where the Big E's

1:17:37

surely would have been represented. I thought that

1:17:39

St. John's would have been a little bit

1:17:41

closer to the cut line they weren't among

1:17:44

the first four out for the selection committee from what

1:17:46

we saw earlier tonight but

1:17:48

obviously you have three

1:17:50

Big E's teams in Creighton, Marquette and UConn that

1:17:52

are all good enough to go to a Final

1:17:55

Four but the Big E's right now with its

1:17:57

lowest number of teams in the NCAA tournament since

1:17:59

the Nineteen Ninety Three is crazy.

1:18:01

and now if all five of

1:18:04

those hadn't opened up. Would.

1:18:06

Villanova have been one of the last

1:18:08

four out then. Probably.

1:18:11

Would prefer to the first were out of the

1:18:13

last four are no loss for out. Like.

1:18:17

You would remorse for. Also there have been

1:18:19

the eighth a steam out. Like.

1:18:21

Away when they bumped up. if we had

1:18:23

had no, no bubbles burst like good could

1:18:25

we have had at least last for a.

1:18:28

I think that okay or it's that would

1:18:30

eighty eight Yes they were like. If

1:18:33

we had had. If the if the committee

1:18:35

had just said you know what this is

1:18:37

awesome year was you seventy eight teams would

1:18:39

zone over Been in. Potential.

1:18:42

Of potentially possible thought experiment though of St

1:18:45

John's had gotten in what seen with their

1:18:47

been. There. Would have been in

1:18:49

Dayton. In the first for us for instead

1:18:51

of Uva. The yeah I virginia

1:18:53

was a theme when it when I did

1:18:56

I do a braga projects in everyday during

1:18:58

sandwich we so when I did my bracket

1:19:00

projects in today I did not have Virginie

1:19:02

in the field. Now what we learn that

1:19:04

I taught you have a Cunningham about this

1:19:07

will obviously as a. Part. Of the

1:19:09

committee. You know is that the

1:19:11

committee really valued teams who didn't have

1:19:13

any bad losses. Now if you look

1:19:15

at the metrics for both Virginia in

1:19:17

Colorado, not too many impressive wins Virginia

1:19:19

Beach, Florida Want to Clemson? Colorado be

1:19:22

washed and stay twice? But they didn't

1:19:24

have any quad, three or four losses,

1:19:26

so the committee really took that into

1:19:28

consideration. Now. Texas A and M.

1:19:31

Had a weird resume at five quadri

1:19:33

losses. the Texas A and M B

1:19:35

I was state of the to see

1:19:37

the Tennessee is t to see be

1:19:39

Kentucky twice is a three seed and

1:19:41

also be. Todd.

1:19:43

Golden, Florida, The Seven Seas. Okay,

1:19:48

Ah John, what does ah

1:19:50

I? We. Haven't had gone since

1:19:52

you had of the birth your child what his father

1:19:54

had look like for John Ross in how's It Going.

1:19:57

a had pre say ask an everyday

1:19:59

the bike That's the best way I can

1:20:01

say it. It feels like you're down eight at the under

1:20:03

12 timeout every single day You know,

1:20:05

you know it there is nothing in the world Like,

1:20:08

you know being a father and you know having

1:20:10

obviously a child and the way it makes you

1:20:12

feel complete as a family But you also feel

1:20:14

like you know You're in a buy game against

1:20:16

Matt Langland Colgate and they're drilling threes and there's

1:20:18

nothing that you can do. Yeah Yeah,

1:20:21

no, it's a great way to put it. I often

1:20:23

say the same thing. Mm-hmm What

1:20:26

so what's your schedule you're going to Dayton do

1:20:28

you know where you're going after Dayton? Yeah,

1:20:30

I'm gonna be in Dayton. I'm actually having some

1:20:32

TV to do tomorrow morning I'm gonna do CBS

1:20:35

this morning's tomorrow or CBS mornings tomorrow morning and

1:20:37

then I'm doing I'm flying a Dayton We're

1:20:39

gonna do the first four Tuesday Wednesday Then

1:20:42

after the games I'm going to be

1:20:44

going to Memphis for the Friday Sunday

1:20:47

So Friday Sunday is gonna be

1:20:50

Houston Longwood Nebraska A&M and

1:20:52

then Clemson, New Mexico Baylor

1:20:54

Colgate and Then I'll

1:20:56

be back in studio on CBS Sports Network for the

1:20:59

sweet 16 in the Elite Eight and then we'll be

1:21:01

at the final Four in Phoenix are you gonna go

1:21:03

take a dip in the bass pro shop pyramid in

1:21:05

their their tank that they got there What's

1:21:08

the best pro shop pyramid? Oh my friend. It's

1:21:10

the most magical place on earth No,

1:21:12

I mean, I'm pretty you know singularly focused on the

1:21:14

labor of life. Yeah, I was gonna ask you What's

1:21:17

your take on Justin Fields being traded to the Steelers?

1:21:20

What position does he play? He's a quarterback For

1:21:23

what team for that? Well, he wasn't there's

1:21:25

no he's on the Steelers. Yeah Okay.

1:21:27

Yeah, I mean, I really haven't followed

1:21:29

the Steelers since like Neil O'Donnell. Okay. All right.

1:21:31

What about did you watch the Super Bowl? We

1:21:35

had a party. Yeah, and what'd you think? My

1:21:39

home's played right? Yeah, and

1:21:42

they play Andy Reid was the coach

1:21:46

Yeah, who was the other team that played against Taylor Swift?

1:21:48

No, the 49ers Right,

1:21:51

and that's not Jeff Garcia. Nope. Nope.

1:21:53

Not anymore. No. Yes Was

1:21:56

It: Brock Purdy? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:21:59

Okay. Yeah. I was going

1:22:01

to socialize and could like I going to college

1:22:03

basketball game was over I heard I've worked with

1:22:05

eaten all Villanova game that day and I was

1:22:07

gonna was just talking to people don't really have

1:22:09

an interest in the game I would like you

1:22:11

do to maybe you have the your relentless we

1:22:14

started to serve you say your relentless lot. I've

1:22:16

have a longstanding thought that. There. Should

1:22:18

be a college basketball game. After Zubov

1:22:20

on Super Bowl Sunday ever was looking

1:22:22

for something Tibet after they lose their

1:22:25

subo best system will get that into

1:22:27

someone's head and be like hey, The.

1:22:30

Schedule A game was play again. Well.

1:22:33

I think one thing we should do and you

1:22:35

tell me because an easy are always looking for

1:22:38

stuff like that. For additional ways

1:22:40

though, you know, obviously have any our

1:22:42

yeah, yeah, I think that you know

1:22:44

I'm all about standalone games in college

1:22:47

basketball. I think you

1:22:49

know a certain league she play

1:22:51

five o'clock game. On. Like

1:22:53

a Friday afternoon. Yeah, I'm happy I got

1:22:55

happy hour thing And I also think you

1:22:57

know that like certain leagues maybe not the

1:22:59

high profile least to play ten Am games

1:23:01

on Sunday on Saturday morning. So it's a

1:23:03

stand alone game and I'm not have as

1:23:06

not have any tension and get things going

1:23:08

quicker. I liked that. We also came up

1:23:10

with an idea that you should pits people

1:23:12

because this one has legs Pfc night. I

1:23:14

don't think that they should expand the tournaments.

1:23:17

Ah ela to expand the internment under

1:23:19

any circumstances and it aggravates me. Not

1:23:21

you guys with that, people think that

1:23:23

it's a good idea. Jeff Goldblum said

1:23:25

in The Last World a sequel The

1:23:28

Jurassic Park that taking dinosaurs off this

1:23:30

island was the worst idea in the

1:23:32

long said history of bad ideas expanded

1:23:34

term. Am I do worse? Okay, so

1:23:36

not as expensive the tournament, but. If

1:23:39

on selection Sunday. We.

1:23:42

Have. The eight teams

1:23:44

that would be potentially in on

1:23:46

the bubble in the bubble in

1:23:48

in the tournament so be a

1:23:50

Boise car Virginia, Cairo State all

1:23:52

were in Oklahoma see no Indiana

1:23:54

State Pit. We. Have them all

1:23:56

the same location. The. Minute we have

1:23:58

the bracket. We. Have the. eight teams

1:24:00

play to see who gets

1:24:02

the last four spots? Well I think

1:24:05

I think that's a good idea. It's expanding

1:24:07

the tournament but yeah. I've also said this,

1:24:10

I love you know where we're at right now with

1:24:12

the amount of teams in the NCAA tournament. I

1:24:15

feel that if you're an automatic qualifier and

1:24:17

you win your league you should

1:24:19

be in the round of 64 and

1:24:21

I have said that you know repeatedly so I would

1:24:23

like it and I love you

1:24:26

know I've worked into the first-born date

1:24:28

and it's great if the last eight

1:24:30

at-large teams someday could be the teams

1:24:32

in Dayton. Yeah I agree with

1:24:34

that. So if you're looking at it right

1:24:36

now let's look at we know the matchups

1:24:38

in Dayton the last eight at-large teams but

1:24:40

the 11 seeds were not obviously the

1:24:43

we're not at large teams they're

1:24:45

automatic qualifiers so the last eight

1:24:47

at-large teams were Nevada and

1:24:51

then let's see

1:24:53

Boise State Colorado well Boise

1:24:55

State Colorado and then Virginia

1:24:58

Colorado State but also so

1:25:00

that's four Nevada is five

1:25:03

Drake was an AQ so if

1:25:06

you had Nevada Michigan State A&M

1:25:09

and then PC

1:25:12

you were Northwestern in Dayton and then you

1:25:14

let obviously the 16th play in the round

1:25:16

of 64 I think that would be an

1:25:18

incredible way if we could ever do that

1:25:21

to really draw people in. I like that

1:25:23

I like that. And not to say that

1:25:25

people aren't obviously excited or whatever and look

1:25:27

the first four is great we had Fairleigh

1:25:29

Dickinson last year who wound up beating for

1:25:31

doing Fairleigh Dickinson was a treat to watch

1:25:33

but I feel if you are a mid-major

1:25:35

team that wins your league you deserve to

1:25:37

be in the round of 64 and those

1:25:40

last eight at-largest should start off the tournament

1:25:42

in Dayton. Yeah and the first four

1:25:44

is great because they're usually a team makes a run

1:25:46

I mean we had UCLA go all the way to

1:25:48

the final four like there's that. And out of the

1:25:50

last 11 years a team in the first

1:25:52

four has won a game in the NCAA tournament.

1:25:54

So who's that team gonna be this year? I

1:25:58

think the team to watch in the first four.

1:26:02

Let's see. That's a great question. Also, do you

1:26:04

have a name for the first four? You

1:26:06

should give a name to that. The first four.

1:26:09

I would say the team most likely to win

1:26:11

an NCAA tournament game this year of the first

1:26:13

four is the Boise State Colorado winner. I love

1:26:15

Florida. That's a really, really tough round of 64

1:26:18

game because Colorado, if you think about it,

1:26:20

guys, KJ Simpson, potent

1:26:24

player. I think if Colorado was better, he

1:26:26

would have been an all American candidate, potent

1:26:28

player. Cody Williams is a projected lottery pick.

1:26:30

Tristan De Silva is going to play basketball

1:26:33

professionally. Also, Eddie Lampkin, if you

1:26:35

remember, guys, is on the TCU team who

1:26:37

almost beat Arizona two years ago when they

1:26:39

had Ben Mather and he went for

1:26:42

2014. Florida is going

1:26:44

to have its hands full with either

1:26:46

Colorado State or Boise. Boise playing in

1:26:48

a third straight NCAA tournament under Leon

1:26:50

Rice. And another

1:26:52

storyline here, guys, which I wrote about

1:26:54

for my daily newsletter tomorrow. One of

1:26:56

the big takeaways is the Mountain West

1:26:58

got no respect for double

1:27:01

digit seeds out of the Mountain West.

1:27:03

I mean, Nevada, the two teams in the

1:27:05

first four and then also New Mexico as

1:27:08

10s and 11 seeds. I mean, as a wise

1:27:10

man once said, wasn't personal. It

1:27:12

was strictly business. But they did get respect

1:27:15

the fact they got six teams in the

1:27:18

big eight scout. No question. And that should

1:27:20

be celebrated. But the Mountain West, like I

1:27:22

felt like all week at today, the

1:27:24

Mountain West gets six teams in. That's great. You

1:27:26

should celebrate it. The Mountain West is something to

1:27:28

prove in this NCAA tournament. You were slighted. People

1:27:30

don't respect you on the committee. Yeah. All right.

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1:27:48

question for you, John. We haven't talked to

1:27:50

you in a while. How was

1:27:52

Europe? Europe was

1:27:54

incredible. Really better than the FBI? I mean,

1:28:00

And when Shaka was there and it was Brionte Weber

1:28:02

at the top of the press, I

1:28:04

mean it was tough, really tough to

1:28:06

kind of take that over anything else. Just

1:28:08

because I mean you know you had the band, you had the

1:28:11

havoc, you had the pressure. There's a clip if you guys can

1:28:13

find it, it was in 2013. Brionte

1:28:15

Weber stripped Alex Barlow on

1:28:18

Butler and threw

1:28:20

down a ridiculous jam and just punched the air

1:28:22

and like it made you like seriously like want

1:28:24

to find a picket fence to start doing pushups

1:28:26

on because it was so crazy. But Europe

1:28:29

was great. I think we

1:28:32

stayed, I think the trip was long, Kat. Like we

1:28:34

were there for 18 days. We

1:28:37

had a couple of friends get married about three

1:28:39

hours outside of Paris. So we went to Paris

1:28:42

first. We hung out with them for a little

1:28:44

bit. It was incredible. The bread, the scene, Paris

1:28:46

is an incredible city. We then went

1:28:48

to three stops in Italy. You were right about the

1:28:50

food, both of you, in terms of it being incredible.

1:28:53

I mean I have, we talk

1:28:55

about bucket list items. The

1:28:57

show Searching for Italy with Stan Tucci

1:29:00

to me is one of my favorite shows because I'm such

1:29:02

a food fan. Like that

1:29:04

to me would be

1:29:06

I think a tremendous guest for you guys to

1:29:09

have Stan Tucci on part of my take because

1:29:11

this guy's just housing food throughout Italy and he

1:29:13

doesn't gain any weight. But we

1:29:15

went to Port of Fino. We went through Rome.

1:29:18

We went to the Amalfi Coast. There's now direct

1:29:20

flights from the Amalfi Coast to New York. Then

1:29:22

we went to Greece last. Nice.

1:29:24

Yeah. Are you willing

1:29:26

to take back your statement, don't waste calories

1:29:28

on pizza outside the Eastern time zone? Not

1:29:33

in terms of the United States. But

1:29:35

pizza in Italy, you can do that. I

1:29:38

can do that. I leaned into the Italy trip.

1:29:40

But the bread in France was the thing that

1:29:42

really blew my mind. The

1:29:45

bread in France. The thing is this, you

1:29:47

guys know how much I love food but in France

1:29:49

you can be content with a beer and a great

1:29:51

loaf of bread and like some butter. So

1:29:54

content. Paris, France, the Siegel Center.

1:29:56

You got to pick one. I

1:30:00

mean aside from a rare thing like this

1:30:02

year, they've kind of become a one-bid league

1:30:04

So I probably take Paris over the seagull

1:30:07

Sun. Wow, John Rothstein sold out damn

1:30:10

Okay. Sorry. Sorry that all

1:30:13

right. I don't think it's really I don't think it's

1:30:15

really anything to do with Paris It's just an indictment

1:30:17

on the Atlantic 10. I never should win League

1:30:20

games. Yeah, we're from 1618 league games guys

1:30:22

after the 14th season think about this for

1:30:24

a sec in 2013 the Atlantic

1:30:26

10 had five teams in the NCAA tournament

1:30:28

five and then after that season Temple

1:30:31

left Xavier and Butler left in the next

1:30:33

year with the same crop of teams pretty much

1:30:35

what it has now The league had

1:30:38

six teams the NCAA tournament then after

1:30:40

that year all of a sudden the

1:30:42

eighth and thought it was a power conference It went from 16

1:30:44

to 18 leagues never

1:30:46

been the same since you need that non

1:30:48

conference scheduling flexibility It's the same flexibility that

1:30:50

the WCC had that allowed Randy Bennett the

1:30:52

schedule Colorado State and New Mexico two wins

1:30:55

obviously that helped st. Mary's get in a

1:30:57

position that's in right now Which is via

1:30:59

five seeing the NCAA tournament. I do have

1:31:01

one last last question for you So we

1:31:03

were just talking before he came on about

1:31:06

Long Beach Long Beach State and Dan Monson

1:31:09

Wild story. Is there any chance

1:31:11

that he gets his job back if they win in the

1:31:14

first round? It's

1:31:17

as awkward of a situation as I've

1:31:19

seen, you know, that would be incredible

1:31:21

I think he made a comment about that It's like he

1:31:23

said it's like your girlfriend coming back and trying to get

1:31:25

back together after you get famous as somebody asked him It's

1:31:28

like, you know, he would get his job back, you

1:31:30

know It's a bizarre scenarios

1:31:32

I've seen in 20 years doing this But you

1:31:34

know, there is a tie-in to that first round

1:31:37

matchup. Do you guys know it? Where's

1:31:39

it Gonzaga Dan Munson was

1:31:41

the head coach against Aga when he's

1:31:43

Aga went to the elite 899 lost

1:31:45

to Yukon coach Calhoun's first Final Four

1:31:47

and he's playing Tommy Lloyd a longtime

1:31:49

Gonzaga system. Oh Mmm, I just I

1:31:52

love the fact that he pulled a Hank they were like, hey

1:31:54

you're fired and he was like Yeah, can I just keep showing

1:31:56

up for work? Okay, cool. Boys are

1:31:58

playing for him. Love it Yeah,

1:32:00

all right well John thank you as always

1:32:02

you're the best Best

1:32:04

time of year and we'll be tuning in we'll

1:32:06

be watching you and Dayton on Tuesday and Wednesday

1:32:10

Always great being with you guys. Love you dearly. We sleep in

1:32:12

May Absolutely. Bye John

1:32:17

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1:33:28

Let's talk some Justin Fields. Oh by the way, I

1:33:30

should have mentioned during bracket talk We

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1:33:52

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1:34:00

got to drink coffee anyway. We have mugs,

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link and you can join the bracket. Justin

1:34:13

Fields traded to Pittsburgh Steelers for a

1:34:15

sixth rounder that could be a fourth

1:34:18

rounder. Depending on playing time. Depending

1:34:20

on playing time. So I'm going to

1:34:22

give my, I think actually

1:34:24

a very balanced take that people probably are

1:34:26

not going to like because it's been a

1:34:28

very polarizing subject and I have

1:34:30

a take that's, I'm going to give you my honest take that's

1:34:34

balanced and I feel is how

1:34:36

I feel. The

1:34:39

Bears failed Justin Fields. It sucks that

1:34:41

this is the way it ended. They

1:34:45

set him up in a really bad

1:34:47

spot in the fact that they drafted him with

1:34:50

a coach that was already on the hot seat. They

1:34:53

were planning on sitting him that first

1:34:55

year and then remember they decided, hey,

1:34:57

let's start him against the Browns. One

1:35:00

of the best defensive, one of the best pass rushes

1:35:02

in the game and this will be

1:35:04

fun. And he got sacked like nine times and

1:35:06

threw for 27 yards and we were off and

1:35:08

running. Year two, the

1:35:11

team was actively tanking. They had

1:35:13

one of the worst defense I've ever seen. They had

1:35:15

10 game stretch at the end of the season where

1:35:17

they let up 25 or more points and

1:35:21

six out of 10 of those games. They let up 30

1:35:23

or more points. And then year

1:35:25

three this year, they were basically like, be so

1:35:27

good Justin Fields that we will keep you go

1:35:31

out and do it with an OC that doesn't really know

1:35:33

how to use you. Could Justin

1:35:35

Fields have played better? Yes.

1:35:37

But I also think he was set up to fail and

1:35:39

I'm really sad about that because I like Justin Fields as

1:35:41

a guy and I think if you listen to anyone in

1:35:43

that locker room, they love him as a leader. It

1:35:45

sucks that a guy that was so exciting

1:35:48

and I had so much hope for was

1:35:50

failed by the organization. So

1:35:53

I thought that they had to trade him and

1:35:55

I'm happy that he was traded just because Kale

1:35:57

Williams is the future and you couldn't have done

1:35:59

the Justin Fields. Williams thing at the same time.

1:36:02

And if you'd kept him, maybe you could have gotten more

1:36:04

from him when quarterbacks get injured, but that would have been

1:36:06

a disaster for Caleb Williams. You would have basically done to

1:36:08

Caleb Williams, where you did Justin Fields and set

1:36:11

him up for failure. So at least they're learning

1:36:13

from these mistakes. Also shout out Ryan Pols and

1:36:15

the Bears. They did say they were going to

1:36:17

do right by Justin Fields and by all accounts

1:36:20

they did because they had a few different suitors.

1:36:22

And I think like Patriots fans are like, why

1:36:25

didn't we get Justin Fields? Eagles fans

1:36:27

like, why don't we get Justin Fields? I

1:36:29

think Justin Fields was like, I want to go to

1:36:31

a place where I can play. Yeah. So when you

1:36:33

look at what Ryan Pols did, I think you can,

1:36:35

you can definitely say that the Bears

1:36:37

did not get everything they could have gotten

1:36:40

for Justin. Correct. So a legitimate criticism of

1:36:42

Ryan Pols would be to say, your

1:36:45

job is to do what's best for

1:36:47

your team, Chicago Bears. And

1:36:49

in this case, it looks like he wanted to

1:36:51

keep his word to Justin Fields and

1:36:53

do right by him more than he

1:36:55

wanted to maximize trade value for Justin Fields.

1:36:57

So you might say that he made a

1:36:59

mistake doing that, but I also think that

1:37:02

this is in his mind, at least like

1:37:04

a long-term play for becoming known

1:37:06

as a GM that will do

1:37:08

something nice for a player as a

1:37:10

way to thank them for what they've done in

1:37:12

that city. So like it could, it could, I

1:37:15

guess make Chicago slightly more attractive. If it's between

1:37:17

the Bears and a team that's in a situation

1:37:19

like the Bears and you have a history that's

1:37:21

been built up of doing right by your players,

1:37:23

that could nudge a free agent or two over

1:37:26

the edge. And Ryan Pols

1:37:28

is probably admitting that the Bears failed

1:37:30

him and it wasn't Ryan Pols' failure,

1:37:33

like let's be honest, because it was,

1:37:35

remember, Justin Fields wasn't drafted by Ryan

1:37:37

Pols. Ryan Pols shows up in

1:37:39

year two of Justin Fields. He inherits

1:37:41

Justin Fields. Ryan Pols' job is to

1:37:44

basically completely strip this thing down and

1:37:46

build it back up, which he has

1:37:48

been doing an incredible job of. Unfortunately,

1:37:51

Justin Fields wasn't in that plan other than

1:37:53

Justin Fields playing so well in year three

1:37:55

that they had to have him. And

1:37:57

Then the contract part is a big part of

1:37:59

it. because everyone I think was saying what are

1:38:01

your got all your was a six, maybe a

1:38:04

fourth. They. The sewers

1:38:06

have to decide what they want to pick up the

1:38:08

for the fifth year option in like three months. Yes,

1:38:10

I think of a big part of this was it

1:38:12

feels. His. Value and into being so

1:38:14

low because gyms don't want to have to make

1:38:16

our decision before he plays us that we have

1:38:18

to decide they want to keep which is extremely

1:38:21

reliable that like I owe I'm going to trade

1:38:23

like a third round picks for this guidance as

1:38:25

can make me have to make a big decision

1:38:27

soon know my big decision is trading so the

1:38:29

guy don't have to double down on bright doing

1:38:31

work right so a desert. I understand that if

1:38:33

you're Russell Wilson I saw he reacted we say

1:38:35

like this to be rooms about to be lit

1:38:37

just and see I owed Obvious beats him out.

1:38:39

I think he's better than Russell Wilson right now.

1:38:41

I think he. I think you might. Be like

1:38:44

to the future he definitely is or then