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1:14

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1:16

we did okay, but we probably hyped it too much.

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Anybody in

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the parking spots. Welcome

4:00

to part of my take today is

4:03

Wednesday, February eight. Are

4:05

you okay, Hank? I'm great. I'm fantastic.

4:07

The C4 couches, comfortable as can be.

4:09

Yeah. You're really sitting in it well, and

4:11

congratulations to LeBron James for breaking

4:13

the all time scoring record. Great job,

4:16

LeBron. I'm happy for you. You know, LeBron,

4:18

he's had he's had quite a week. He goes

4:20

from the ups to the downs. He's gonna break Kareems

4:22

up to lunch bars all time record. Mhmm.

4:24

That's impressive. Like, great job, you know,

4:26

kind of a ball hog, but that's fine. You you

4:28

are a stack compiler. You're the greatest stack

4:30

compiler all time. But he would trade

4:32

it all to be able to go to Starbucks

4:35

and get his his name written on the cup --

4:37

Yeah. -- and go shop at Target. At

4:39

first, I was like, man, LeBron,

4:42

you don't own anything in your house that's

4:44

that's purchased a target. But then I thought

4:46

more about it and I was like, I bet he does

4:48

Oh, he definitely is up by the the

4:50

weird, like, pictures and

4:53

sayings guy. Yes. Oh, he's got home is

4:55

where the heart is. Yeah. Homes are, like, the wine

4:57

sayings. Like, Kunamascato. Yeah. Yeah. Everything

4:59

happens for reason. Like five o'clock somewhere

5:02

or it's one o'clock? Yeah. Yeah. No. And

5:04

he's probably got, like, a scarface poster

5:06

somewhere. He's got the kiss. He's got the pink Lloyd

5:08

album. Mhmm. It was just very fun to

5:09

be, like, to see LeBron say, like, I just

5:12

wish I could go to Starbucks and get my name written

5:14

on the cup. Yeah.

5:14

You can go to the drive thru. You can write your name

5:16

on it on the drive thru L'Bryan. It it actually

5:18

is one of those weird things where LeBron

5:21

is saying that. III understand what

5:23

he's saying, but it's it's I think it was

5:25

maybe Brady a few years ago when he's like, yeah,

5:27

it's really tough, you know, to be a parent

5:29

and try to figure out how to raise your kids when

5:31

they have so much. Fair

5:34

fair thing to say, no one wants to hear

5:36

it. Yeah. Like, fair thing for LeBron to say because

5:38

I bet you when you become that insanely

5:41

famous, there is a party that's like, I

5:43

really wish I could just walk down the street and just be

5:45

a regular dude. Yeah. But again, no

5:47

one wants to hear it because everyone would trade

5:50

lies with Well, that's what Michael Jackson did. So

5:52

Michael Jackson was so famous and so unique

5:54

looking that he couldn't go anywhere. He actually

5:56

rented out in his whole face. Entire

5:58

no. Well, that was I mean, that might have been part of

6:00

it at first and that things get out of hand. But

6:02

he rented out an entire supermarket, and

6:05

he paid people to be actors to pretend like

6:07

they were shopping the supermarket. So you could be

6:09

able to go out and shop for whatever weird stuff.

6:11

Did you guys? He just did Nathan Fielder Show. Yes.

6:13

Exactly. He did the simulation or what's called

6:15

the rehearsal? Yeah. The rehearsal. Did the rehearsal for himself.

6:18

But yeah. LeBron so we are taking this

6:20

early, so maybe he didn't break

6:21

it. He didn't.

6:22

He didn't. I don't think so. You don't think so. No.

6:25

I do that at home.

6:27

They're at home tonight. Next

6:29

point?

6:30

don't think he's gonna do little bit.

6:32

The only thing you can say is if if LeBron is

6:34

a true historian of the game,

6:37

he would wait to break it against

6:39

the box, the only other

6:42

team the cream played for. So Lakers

6:44

box playing on Thursday night, maybe

6:46

he does that. Who knows? Either

6:48

way, if he does break it, I'm not gonna be

6:50

hater about it. I'm not gonna be like it's just an attendance

6:52

record because that's what it is. He just played

6:54

a ton of seasons didn't go to

6:56

college, which is not something we should look up to.

6:58

Three point

6:58

line didn't exist for Kareems like, half his

7:00

year. Right. And it's I mean, he does have

7:03

the most points per game, LeBron. So that's wait.

7:05

No. He doesn't. No. M j still has the most points per game.

7:07

But either way Well, if if LeBron hadn't

7:09

played in all are we counting playoff games? Is this all

7:11

time points right now? don't think it does. It doesn't.

7:13

No. Then that completely submarines my

7:16

my take on him. I did do little research trying

7:18

to just being ready for this moment because

7:20

it is an incredible moment. LeBron is an all

7:22

time player. He's very

7:24

good at basketball. I think we can all agree on

7:26

that. But I I did kind of arm

7:29

myself with some stats. He's

7:31

actually more he's closer to James

7:33

Harden than MJ in terms of points per game. What

7:35

about his his efficiency rate? I

7:37

don't know what his PER is. PER plus

7:40

is what our PER plus. His PER plus

7:42

Thanks. The the craziest thing I was looking,

7:44

so I was looking through the the points per game I asked

7:46

you to distribute a question earlier, p t

7:48

hanks. Were you in the room? I can ask you now? I don't you didn't

7:50

ask me a trivia question or Well, you were standing there when

7:52

we were talking about it. There's nine guys right now

7:54

who are current active players in the top

7:56

thirty all time points per game. Kinda

7:58

tells you what the error we're playing in.

8:00

And one name is just insane that

8:03

you would never guess. III

8:05

think you're there. So it's Katie Lebron,

8:08

Dane, James Harden, Steph,

8:10

Deli, a d, Devin Booker,

8:12

Kyrie, and then one last name.

8:15

Can anyone guess it? I can.

8:17

Well, you heard it. It's

8:20

Karl Anthony Townsend, which shocked

8:22

me when I saw

8:23

that. I was like, He is. He's top

8:25

thirty. He's in the corner. Yeah. He's

8:26

not. That's wild. Yeah. That is a wild stat.

8:29

Is it not? It is kinda crazy though to think about

8:31

LeBron how Since two

8:33

thousand

8:33

three, the NBA has been LeBron James.

8:35

That's such a long

8:36

time. Like, those are so many different areas

8:39

that he's overlapped since he got into

8:41

the league, and the league has just been focused

8:43

on him that entire time. It's it's honestly impressive.

8:45

Some would say it's a little look at me selfish. Not

8:48

me. Some would also say like, hey, LeBron,

8:50

you've definitely been using performance enhancing

8:52

drugs. I would not say that about them. But a

8:54

lot of people have said it. I think that we should we

8:56

should hear them out. Here's something nice I'm gonna

8:58

say about LeBron. I think there has never

9:00

been a case where the

9:03

he exceeded the hype. Because

9:05

he was expected to be this

9:07

player -- Yeah. -- coming out of high school, you

9:09

know, to televised high school games, and he

9:11

somehow was better than that. Because, you know, there's been

9:13

many times in sports where you see a

9:15

player or a prospect, you're like, he's

9:18

gonna be the next guy, and he might even have a good

9:20

career. Doesn't have career like the blockchain.

9:22

That's pretty insane to think about, like, the

9:25

the the general media called their shot.

9:27

Oh, and they were right. Yeah. We actually, we

9:29

should get we should get in the media because, like,

9:32

we were so right about Leon James. We

9:34

call Guess what? I'm calling it right now. Wimbagnana

9:36

is gonna be great. Yeah. He's gonna be he's gonna

9:39

even be better than LeBron at his peaks.

9:41

Yes. And yeah. Actually, when you think about

9:43

it, LeBron Like, he actually

9:45

had kind of an average career when you put it into

9:47

perspective. We all expected him to be great.

9:49

Well, he wasn't the the, like,

9:51

he should have been averaging fifty points. If he averaged

9:53

fifty points a game, then we could be like, hand

9:56

up, we were wrong. You were that much better than we

9:58

expected. We kind of expected this. I

10:00

personally expected LeBron to surpass Michael

10:02

Jordan's championship numbers. Mhmm. So

10:04

he didn't do Well, he did he surpassed his finals

10:06

appearances. Right? Yeah. Appears his soul

10:08

loss. And losses. Yeah. He has more the all

10:10

time Is he the Is he four in six?

10:13

No. Is he four in six? No.

10:15

Is is LeBron James the all time NBA

10:17

finals losses

10:18

leader? No. Wouldn't

10:21

that be it had it would have be

10:23

like, no.

10:23

Wilt just Jerry Westman. Jerry

10:25

West. Jerry West. Jerry West. Everybody lost everything.

10:28

Yeah. He lost literally everything. I want LeBron

10:30

to stick around and make more final so he can be the biggest

10:32

The biggest finals loser, Volta. Now

10:34

tonight of all nights, you should have

10:36

to be available. If he doesn't pay because Yeah.

10:39

That's right. But I'm just let I'm letting

10:41

you guys know right now. This is what makes our

10:43

returns on skip Bayless tweet notifications

10:46

because he's got something loaded. Well, I don't

10:48

know what his angle's gonna be. He's gonna

10:50

pretend to be gracious or And there's gonna be

10:52

something

10:52

that's, like, very slightly deprecating

10:54

in

10:54

there -- Yeah.

10:55

-- towards the Braun James. I'm just excited as a

10:57

student of his game.

10:58

This is three and a half and six. This is

11:00

this is gonna be great because what what is

11:02

it? Three and half and a half and six. Yeah. Well,

11:04

actually, three and six because Kyrie carried

11:06

him in twenty two and a half and so.

11:08

Two and half and the six. Well,

11:11

and also he had Bosch and Wade. And it

11:13

was the baby thunder stimulus package. Yeah. And his hip

11:15

thunder was old. Didn't he get swept once? He

11:18

did get That should count as the spur. That should count

11:20

as too. Yeah. Too long. Yeah. This

11:22

is this is the difference between part of my take and

11:24

every other podcast. I always think Like,

11:26

III think most there probably won't be,

11:28

like, a ton of new listeners for JJWoc because

11:30

we've had them on before. But for any of the new listeners,

11:33

listening to the start of the show. They're like, what the fuck

11:35

are these guys talking about? LeBron scored twenty points

11:37

against the thunder. He's still sixteen away.

11:40

And then the even better part is if he falls

11:42

short, tonight, on

11:44

Tuesday night, we're not even gonna mention

11:46

it on Friday's show, and people were like, you don't even

11:48

mention it, like, Golis and the Tuesday show. We

11:50

gave him his flowers. We already did this.

11:52

We already he wants to do it again. First.

11:55

We're first reporting that LeBron James has broken

11:57

the record. So Please credit report my chance to credit

11:59

us. If he doesn't, Now if he doesn't do it, wow,

12:01

what a what a colossal disappointment that would

12:03

be to be within striking range at home,

12:05

in front of the home crowd, and not breaking

12:07

that record? I did So I bet I

12:09

really put an asterisk on the entire deal. I

12:11

bet is over thirty two and a half points tonight,

12:14

and I didn't I just did it. I woke up and I bet

12:16

it, and then I realized the box angle.

12:18

That I mentioned that he would be playing against the only

12:20

other team Corinne played for the guys passing.

12:23

And also, is there like

12:25

a sadder team that you could

12:27

break an all time record against than the thunder?

12:30

That's that's let me That's a real

12:33

tough one. Probably the wizards maybe

12:35

the kings kings are good though. Those are good right now.

12:37

Yeah. Yeah. No. That's it's pretty up there.

12:39

It's pretty up there. It really it really gets the thunder.

12:41

It really does the significance of the entire

12:44

operation, I think, to break it against the thunder.

12:46

He'll probably do it tonight, and they'll they'll probably

12:48

stop the game. Oh, yeah. And LeBron, do you think he's gonna

12:50

take the mic? And thank everybody. I hope he writes

12:52

a letter to his younger self. Yep. Those are

12:54

always fun. Well, it's really a letter

12:56

from his younger self. To

12:58

his future self, but he's writing it

13:01

as his future self. Yes. See, this is

13:03

big LeBron, cosplaying as young

13:05

LeBron thinking future LeBron?

13:07

You you mentioned Skip Bayless, and we gotta

13:09

give him a shout out because he did

13:12

the impossible. He he criticized

13:14

LeBron for not demanding a trade

13:17

for Kyrie straight up. So

13:20

that trade was never on the table. So

13:22

he was like, Lebron's best chance of winning a ring

13:24

this year would be with Kevin Durant. He should've

13:26

he should've demanded a trade for Kyrie straight

13:28

up. That trade never happened or

13:31

never was even discussed. Not only does

13:33

that trade not discuss, Lebron

13:35

can't be traded. And I'm not saying,

13:37

like, he can't be traded because he's Lebron. He

13:39

he contractually cannot be traded. Does he

13:41

have a no trade clause? No. He

13:44

signed his two year extension in August, and you

13:46

can't trade him for six months. In

13:48

NBA pilot. So Skip

13:50

had a whole hypothetical that contractually

13:53

cannot take place. It's

13:56

a tough moment for our But if you're LeBron,

13:58

you can probably you can figure out those

14:00

laws. You can actually do the trade. What would

14:02

happen? Who is it if LeBron know he

14:04

can't be trade. If he just showed up in Brooklyn

14:06

-- Yeah. -- put on a Nets uniform and tried to

14:08

play. They let him play. Are they gonna stop him? Are gonna

14:10

stop him Ron James? I remember it was a big deal because

14:12

it was he signed it. It's

14:14

like a six month rule and he could

14:17

have signed it earlier in the summer and he signed

14:19

it later in the summer and then it became

14:21

clear that he couldn't get Like, the trade deadline

14:23

would pass before you could get traded. Well,

14:27

could he trade, like, the future rights to drafting

14:29

his son? Yeah.

14:31

That might be that might be the thunder. Remember when he

14:33

was talking about San Presti? Yeah. I would

14:36

I would love it if LeBron James' son got

14:38

into the NBA and just swatted the shit

14:40

out of his dad. That would be -- That would be cool. -- that would

14:42

rule. Okay. So what

14:44

else we got? And that that's the the leading story,

14:46

LeBron, not passing

14:50

record. It's a thunder even

14:52

though we started the whole show about it. There was media

14:54

night? Media night happened on Monday. Wow. The

14:56

pageantry the magic, the entertaining

14:58

questions. It's it truly has it all. Did

15:00

you hear so our friend front of the program,

15:02

Dave Damasek asked a great question to

15:04

Nick Seriani. He asked them if the Super Bowl

15:06

is a must win. Yeah. And I agree it

15:09

is a must win because I was thinking about it. He should've

15:11

maybe asked is that must win can't lose

15:13

I think it's a must win. I disagree. You think

15:16

it's There's there's yeah. It's a can't lose. Okay.

15:18

Because if you if you lose, then

15:20

what? Yeah. But if you win, it's like,

15:22

okay. It's a must win. Okay. We just checked off

15:24

something. Good job. Okay. You might be right. Moving on,

15:27

think it's can't lose. If you can't lose if

15:29

you're Nick Seriani, you lose the Super Bowl. You're

15:31

gonna be known as Super Bowl losing head coach.

15:33

Yeah.

15:34

You can't lose that game. You can't you cannot

15:36

lose that game if your next Hurry on. And if you yeah.

15:38

You I mean, you want to win it, but it's not a must

15:40

win. If you what happens if you if

15:42

if you lose a must win, then

15:45

you get another crack at a must win later. That's Then

15:47

your next Super Bowl becomes a must win. But

15:49

he will get another crack. At it. We

15:51

think we you think they you think

15:54

if they lose Zoom while they fire Nick

15:56

Seriani, nobody can see, but he might he

15:58

he lost a must win. You can't

16:01

have a coach around that loses must wins. Right.

16:03

Losing can't lose though is pretty

16:05

bad. If you lose it, can't lose then he resigns.

16:07

Yeah. You have to just fall on the sword.

16:10

Literally. Yes. Like, great. Yes.

16:12

Right? Japanese. Yes. If if

16:14

you have any honor, Nick Seriani will

16:16

commits subuku. Get my On a get my sword.

16:19

Yeah. You can see that The lo Lombardi

16:21

trophy. The loser should have to impale themselves

16:24

with it. I would see Jason Kelsey would definitely be

16:26

the the sword unshoulder. Yeah.

16:28

He would he would be the designated sword

16:30

guy. He seems like Jason Kelly is an

16:32

all time, like, costume guy. He can wear

16:34

any costume and would look incredible. I

16:36

think if he were, like, either the executioner's

16:39

hood or if you put on, like, a priest

16:41

robe, and gave him his last rights. Oh, I

16:43

think that would look awesome. Big baggy pants?

16:46

Yeah. Huge baggy pants for some pretty

16:48

school. Yeah. Giant weird baggy pants.

16:50

Yeah. Did you know Jason Kelsey plays

16:52

the Saksophone? No.

16:54

I did not. Yes. So I saw a video got

16:57

me pumped up. He was, like,

16:59

the Philadelphia orchestra. He

17:01

was playing the Saks the phone they're doing fly equals

17:03

fly. And it was just an awesome like

17:05

Philadelphia moment where all these people

17:07

at the symphony and they're just singing

17:09

the song in chanting Eagles. Yeah. Jason Kelsey

17:11

might be the most interesting guy in football. You could

17:13

tell me any fact about him, and I would

17:15

believe it, because he seems like a a worldly

17:17

guy with lots of different pursuits. He

17:20

also said, I know it's Travis Kelsey, I

17:22

think. They asked him about the key

17:25

to preserving his body and to making sure

17:27

he's always in good football shape. He said naps.

17:29

Mhmm. He naps like three times

17:31

a day, takes like thirty, forty five minute naps.

17:33

I might have to start dipping my tone of the nap

17:35

game. Dude, that's whenever you read

17:37

a story about someone who lives

17:40

forever who lives to like hundred and

17:42

fifteen, it's never the dude that's at the gym.

17:44

It's like, AA52

17:47

person from Italy who just

17:49

takes naps, drinks wine, and and

17:51

eats pasta with, like, fresh olive oil

17:53

every Yeah. Like a grandmother who's like, well, I've smoked

17:56

the same brand of cigarettes for for sixty

17:58

years. It's the no stress

17:59

people. Yeah. It has nothing to do with physical fitness.

18:01

It's all about stress.

18:02

Yeah. If you just have no stress, you'll

18:04

live forever, and it's always those people.

18:06

So maybe that is the naps we can

18:09

live forever. I'm gonna get into nap game. I used to

18:11

call them just blacking out, but feel like, you know,

18:13

now that I'm in my late thirties, I'll just call

18:15

naps. Dude, rebrand. I am elite

18:17

at the nap game. I'm Like, the dad nap

18:19

is a true thing where if if I

18:21

lay down like, I'll even be, like,

18:23

it'll be the middle of the day and my kids will be playing.

18:25

If I lay down, lay down flat

18:28

Ten minute nap. No problem. Instantly.

18:31

Instantly. Could be I could have a cup of coffee in

18:33

my hand. Ten minute

18:34

nap. I'm already geared up for the master's nap this

18:36

year. Yeah. I've got my spot on the couch picked out.

18:38

No one's touching that thing. Yep. Good to be

18:40

so sick. I've done some reps. You

18:43

gotta get you gotta get your reps in beforehand. You don't wanna

18:45

hurt yourself. Pull muscle napping, which is something that I've

18:47

actually done. Is it injure yourself sleeping?

18:50

That's that's what I knew. Like, it's time to hang it

18:52

up. You know, just on just on, like, any

18:54

aspirations of being physically

18:55

fit. You wake up in the morning and you've got a pulled

18:58

hamstring. Yeah. The I've had the ankle. Yes.

19:00

So we created what did I just did I run-in

19:02

my sleep? The the a a

19:04

way to take your master's nap to the elite

19:07

level? For everyone out there,

19:09

crack a window. Crackle window

19:11

gets some air wake up. It's a little cold. Uh-huh.

19:13

It's like maybe four thirty in the afternoon.

19:16

It's a little cold. You missed probably, I

19:18

don't know, seven holes.

19:20

Yeah. And it's just that's that's

19:22

spring air. Oh, I'm going on a

19:24

little vacay after the Super Bowl. I've already

19:26

planned to shut the fuck

19:28

up. I've

19:30

planned to abscon from the hotel

19:33

with one of their robes that I will be wearing for

19:35

my master's I've got an accent. That's how you

19:37

also take it next like, getting getting into

19:39

full relaxation mode requires a rogue.

19:42

Yes. Yes. There was another story

19:44

about the Rocky Statue in

19:46

Philadelphia. This might have been from the same interview

19:48

with with Dekelsey's. It

19:50

turns out that every team, every fan

19:53

of every team that's put on opposing

19:55

jerseys on the Rocky Statue over

19:57

the last, like, five years going back

19:59

to the Super Bowl against the Patriots.

20:01

Back in twenty, was it eighteen? Seventeen.

20:04

Twenty seventeen. Seventeen and twenty eighteen.

20:06

Every time that's happened, that team is

20:09

lost. Oh. So if you're a Chiefs fan,

20:11

Don't go to the Rocky Statue and get it dressed

20:13

up because -- That's exactly what -- Rocco will

20:15

have his vengeance. I'm gonna need

20:17

an Eagles fan to please go and

20:19

put a Jersey the false flag operations.

20:21

That's I will pay for someone. I'll pay

20:23

for the Jersey. Operation Northwood. Someone hit

20:25

me up. I will do that. I did get a little triggered

20:28

with Super Bowl Media Night, because

20:30

I saw Matt Nagy getting

20:32

interviewed. So that triggered me. And so one was asking

20:35

about Justin Fields, and I was, like, watching

20:37

the video being, like, stopped talking about him.

20:39

Mhmm. He's not yours. You tried to ruin

20:42

him. Shut the fuck up. At Nagy's next

20:44

up, man. He's next up. It was it was a very

20:46

it was a very pathetic moment. I was sitting

20:48

in my car watching this video

20:51

being just like shut the fuck up, dude.

20:53

He was like, Justin Fields is wired correctly.

20:55

Like, the guy works so hard, like, shut the phone. Oh,

20:57

yeah. And that's not your quarterback. He's

20:59

definitely gonna take credit for, like, laying the

21:01

groundwork on Justin Fields. Like, you know,

21:03

when he got to the

21:04

NFL, his his fundamentals were all

21:06

askew.

21:06

I had to sit down and work real hard with him. It's

21:09

good to see that some of the lessons that we went through

21:11

together started take hold. Yeah. And he's ready now

21:13

build off of that and take the next step. It it was

21:15

one of those moments is sports fans where you

21:18

just have to take step back and be like, dude,

21:20

are you really letting this bother you? And the answer

21:22

is yes. It was bothered that he was

21:24

talking about the words Justin Fields coming out

21:26

of his mouth bothered me. And

21:28

that makes me a very small person. And

21:30

that's fine. I'm okay with that. Yep. So

21:32

as as long as you admit your faults, you can just

21:35

have them. Yep. But Woods taught us.

21:37

But also, at the same time, if you're Matt and

21:39

Eggie, this is what you have to do. Yeah. You have

21:41

to, like, take credit. That's what we do. Actually,

21:43

a tough time. Yeah. We took credit taking credit

21:45

for JJ Watts. We're his entire career. We're

21:47

we're taking credit. For I mean, just a purchasing

21:49

credit for LeBron James passing cream

21:51

at Dolce Bar because we said in two thousand

21:54

three he was gonna be good at basketball. Right. We all

21:56

agree. So, like, I understand what Matt Nagy is

21:58

doing, but at the same time when somebody does it,

22:00

in a way that irritates you, you just wanna rip

22:02

this off. I just don't want him talk about him because III

22:04

also feel the superstitions. Like, if he talks

22:06

about him, it's just this this thing is

22:08

gonna be there. I don't wanna talk about it. So yeah.

22:10

Yeah. We had Super Bowl Media Night. We'll

22:12

do all of our prop bets on Friday show,

22:16

full preview of it. Let's

22:18

do hot sequel. By the way, this whole show is brought

22:20

to you by C4C4

22:22

takeover.

22:23

Hank, why don't you start with your hot sequel

22:25

wrong. My hot seat is Aaron Rogers and Tom

22:27

Brady. Trent Delfort

22:29

went somewhere. I don't know what he was on

22:31

talking. think it was something to to do with the Ravens,

22:34

doctor minute came out. One

22:36

sec. I wanna watch that. Yeah. Is

22:38

that out? It's out. Oh, hell, yes. I

22:40

think it's the Ray Lewis thing. He

22:42

was talking about Aaron

22:44

Rogers and Tom Brady who said, you know, when I

22:46

talk about great quarterback, I should think about Joe Montana

22:48

and Steve Young, because of the way the game

22:50

has changed, I don't think Aaron Rogers and Tom Brady

22:53

are

22:53

impressive. Mhmm. Not

22:54

that

22:54

impressive. I love I love Trent

22:56

over because he is he only exists

22:58

to be the butt of the joke when somebody's

23:00

like, well, you don't need a great quarterback to when

23:01

it's Right.

23:02

Look at Trent Delfer. There was some gray and then obviously,

23:04

like, people online were were posting old highlights

23:07

of his where he was just missing wide open receivers.

23:09

Tom Curran, a Patriots writer, had this stat

23:11

From two thousand one through two thousand seven, Dilfer

23:13

had twenty nine starts, thirty one touchdowns,

23:16

thirty eight picks. He'd been in the league seven

23:18

years, and Brady made his first start. Brady

23:20

had a hundred ninety seven touchdowns and eighty

23:22

six picks in hundred ten starts over

23:24

the same

23:24

span.

23:25

Yeah. So that's

23:25

that's when Trend Delver was playing. Yeah.

23:28

There was that stat We've

23:30

brought it up earlier in the season.

23:32

can't remember what team were talking about, but the

23:34

Ravens that Ravens Super Bowl team

23:37

think they had like a six week, seven week stretch

23:39

where they didn't score an offensive touchdown and they went

23:41

like four and two. It was something crazy

23:43

like

23:43

that. That's how good their defense was. But,

23:45

yeah, I know that trenches. Affinity it.

23:47

Yeah. That's a weird I I don't

23:49

really understand. I get

23:52

They are Roger's part. He's overrated. But, like,

23:54

what how could you how could you

23:56

say those guys are bad

23:57

quarterbacks? Yeah. It's impressive.

23:58

What's that? Quarterback for as long as

24:00

he has been his been impressive. Take out and see

24:03

comments. So I'm I'm I'm gonna do something

24:05

a little bit out of character for myself, and I'm going

24:07

to try to wrap full context around what

24:09

Trent Delphur said. Okay. Because he was talking

24:11

about quarterbacks of, like, the nineties,

24:14

guys like Troy Ackman, Steve Young,

24:16

to a certain extent, Joe Montana, where the

24:18

pockets and the

24:21

receivers weren't as quarterback friendly.

24:24

So, like, the rules on the you know what? I'm done

24:26

with the campaign. Trent Delifer said that he's better than

24:28

Tom Brady fucking Delifer. I don't wanna get

24:30

into the countdown. This this is one of those takes. That's

24:32

best absorbed without the true context of

24:34

it because we all need to be able to get our jokes off

24:36

about Trenton. Yeah. He's a coach

24:38

at UAB. Is he? Yeah.

24:41

He got hired as coach

24:42

UAB. And then your CoolThorn?

24:45

My CoolThorn's mini golf. Today.

24:47

Okay. Mini golf. Jake's been there since

24:49

I think six thirty this morning.

24:51

That's why he's not here right now. I'm heading here

24:53

right after this HOTsey CoolThorn

24:55

session. You enjoyed the bowling

24:57

livestream, this is gonna be something similar. So

25:00

how are we feeling technology wise?

25:03

I'm going to the

25:04

rehearsal. We've never done a livestream mini

25:06

golf. Are you

25:07

gonna go practice mini golf? It's interesting.

25:09

I'm just helping, you know, make it happen. It's interesting.

25:11

Mhmm. I'm stressed. It

25:14

would be a

25:14

shame. It would be a shame. Hank,

25:17

do you think it

25:17

would be a shame? But I think it's gonna be great. I'm

25:19

excited. I'm excited for the course. I think it's a

25:21

much better course. I think, obviously.

25:24

Hank is so stressed that at at ten o'clock this

25:26

morning going down to the car, he was smoking the biggest

25:28

joint in the world. Oh, no. It

25:32

would be a shame. And also if you wanna

25:34

watch it, PFT, myself, Caleb,

25:37

Jeff

25:37

Deloitte, that's our foursome and we will be

25:39

live in the part of my take Instagram. We'll be live in the

25:41

part of my take Instagram. The broadcast will be live in

25:43

the Marshall Sports YouTube. So if you want, obviously,

25:45

the YouTube will be bouncing around from all the

25:48

players. So if you wanna watch everyone, watch that.

25:50

If you wanna just watch big cat and

25:51

fifty, go to the Mar Marotta take Instagram. I

25:53

love it. That's hope it all works. Nothing better

25:55

than it's gonna work. It's gonna be great. Yeah. Everyone's

25:57

gonna tune in. And it would be a shame if

25:59

it wasn't that. PFT is a dark

26:01

horse. Big cat, I think, is gonna not try.

26:03

And and PFT

26:04

I tried hard in the first 1II finished,

26:06

like, third.

26:07

PFC finish second. Okay. But what

26:09

I didn't try. Not to me.

26:11

We'll see. There is there's a lot of Okay.

26:14

Yeah. Alright. Now you know what? I hope it breaks. Built

26:16

the whole thing, Braising, it never gets broken.

26:17

Yeah. That's what you already you've already plugged it.

26:20

No. What did I say? It would be a shame.

26:22

You literally said other day, you're gonna go to the truck and

26:24

unplug it when you get there. So

26:25

yeah. I might have said that. Yeah.

26:28

Alright. I might have said that. I might have said

26:30

that. Alright. You're rooting against me. I'm gonna

26:32

try. I don't like Not a good golfer. I'm gonna try.

26:34

Like having Hank over my shoulder. I'm gonna try. Alright.

26:37

What is that about I leave then? Alright. I'm just gonna

26:39

go back on. Go go make sure that everything's

26:42

correct and ready to

26:43

go. It was so that we don't have a

26:45

shame.

26:45

Yeah. No. It's gonna be great. Everyone tuned

26:47

in Jake this morning.

26:49

Tune in Jose was like, Well,

26:51

the Instagram live. If things are going south,

26:53

our Instagram live will be up, and you'll

26:55

be having the time of your life.

26:57

What if Instagram goes down? Because I'll be freaking out.

26:59

Then the whole world's probably gonna end at that point and, you know

27:01

-- Mhmm.

27:01

-- pray that. Enjoy it. Drink some seaborne.

27:03

Alright. Be real shame if LeBron James didn't get

27:05

the scoring title before the world end.

27:08

really would. Alright. Love you guys. Okay. You

27:10

don't say that. You don't mean that. It's like No.

27:12

You don't you don't love anybody. Alright. PfT.

27:15

Your hot seat is Russell Wilson. Russia

27:17

listens on the hot seat because Sean

27:19

Payne did one of his first interviews while

27:22

he was getting you know, he was getting asked questions

27:24

about being the did of Broker's head coach and

27:26

they asked about Russell Wilson's personal coaching

27:28

staff and training team if they're going to be

27:30

welcome. I think they're called like Team three --

27:33

Okay. -- after Russell Wilson's course. -- seal Team

27:35

three based course. And Sean Payne was like,

27:37

I don't know what kind of arrangements we had before that,

27:39

but around here, that's not going to be the case.

27:41

We're not gonna I don't I don't participate in any

27:43

outside coaching. I like that. I

27:45

also had an epiphany.

27:49

The Bronco's colors might be

27:51

the best colors for coach hiring. Because they

27:54

all put on that orange tie, and it

27:56

looks cool. Because I was like, wow, Champagne

27:58

looks cool. I'm like, wait, I thought Nathaniel

28:00

Hackett looked cool too. And so did Vic

28:02

Fangio something about the Bronco's,

28:04

like, that orange kinda pops on

28:06

a tie. It's a little youthful. Yeah. I would say

28:08

that if the Seahawks hired somebody, they

28:10

could have a cool But you can't go neon on that.

28:13

Vikings. You can go the yellow

28:15

tie. It's stately Yeah. The yellow tie.

28:17

I just I like the orange tie. So good for

28:19

you Bronco. Work size is good. I I think

28:21

that Sean Payne is telling himself for not

28:23

being unlimited. It sounds like he's not buying

28:25

into the unlimited lifestyle, and don't know if that you could

28:27

be a successful head coach. If you set

28:29

limitations on yourself. There's also a hundred

28:31

percent chance that Russell Wilson just still

28:33

brings his staff, like like James putting

28:36

on his uniform when he was suspended at Florida state.

28:38

What? Yeah. No. He'll I don't I don't understand.

28:40

He'll just, like, have them change their names -- Yeah. -- and

28:42

have them get hired as, like, janitors, like

28:45

Be be be be on the practice

28:47

squad. Yeah. I so Sean Peyton

28:49

is going he's gonna have his work cut out for him.

28:51

He's trying to to sheeze all that,

28:53

Russell Wilson, take his glasses off, let

28:56

his hair down. This is good first step though.

28:58

III really do mean this. Like, you need

29:01

Sean Peyton, and there's

29:03

just a reality of how the NFL works, is

29:05

going to be there longer than Russell Wilson.

29:08

Yeah. He will be the coach because

29:10

there's no there's no scenario where

29:12

Russell Wilson outlives Sean Payton

29:14

in Denver. Because if there if Russell

29:16

Wilson is really good, Sean Payton will stay there for

29:19

a decade plus. If Russell Wilson's really

29:21

bad, Sean Payton's gonna go find the next

29:23

quarterback. Yeah. So he should make the

29:25

rules and he should be the guy who's like,

29:27

this is what's gonna happen here because

29:29

I'm gonna be here long past you. Oh,

29:31

Sean Payne also can lay the gauntlet

29:34

down right now. And then slowly

29:36

take it away -- Yeah. -- as progress. Spring pound

29:38

table. But you can't exactly. Like, he'll if

29:40

you listen, Russ, if you win six games

29:42

for us in our first eight, you can bring your astrologist

29:45

in as a treat. Yeah. But you can't start

29:47

out by saying, yeah, you can bring in his whole staff

29:49

and then and then ban them because then that becomes

29:51

an issue -- Yes. -- it becomes personal. He just

29:53

laying down the groundwork little bit. My It

29:56

is very funny too that Russell Wilson had a whole

29:58

staff, like, when we made a big deal about the Tom Brady

30:00

Bill ballot check. It's, like, they were already, like,

30:02

four or five rings in. Yeah. When

30:04

when, like, Tom Brady got to have Alex Square

30:06

on the bill. Yeah. Russell won one Super Bowl. Yeah.

30:08

One Super Bowl with this defense. And so what hap

30:11

who's the worst quarterback in the NFL that has their

30:13

own guys that they rely on? I

30:17

could see I was gonna say Sam Arnold,

30:19

but Sam Arnold just

30:20

has, like, one of his college buddies. I was just his Instagram.

30:22

was

30:22

gonna say Kyle Trask, but it's probably just his weed

30:24

dealer. Yeah. Yeah. And it

30:26

might be Russ. Maybe Russ right now. Russ

30:28

might be the yeah. Yeah. He is probably the worst quarterback

30:31

that has his team. Yes. Yes. My

30:33

cool throne is Greg Olson. So

30:35

Brady went on. He shall not be named

30:37

show the other day, a fake suit guy and

30:39

said that he's not going to step

30:41

into the booth broadcasting until twenty twenty

30:44

four. So that means that Greg Olson

30:46

has an entire another year at Fox. Now,

30:49

I do think that there's a good chance that Tom Brady

30:51

spends the next year.

30:54

Just straight up practicing calling games.

30:56

Like playing games, excuse

30:58

me, with a sound off and him doing his

31:00

analysis. In fact, I brought that up to

31:02

to Jake yesterday. I was like, this seems

31:05

like a good thing for Greg Olson because if

31:07

he has another great year, they're gonna continue

31:09

to give them something to think about with the top Brady

31:11

situation. But Jake

31:13

was saying that he used to, like, play YouTube

31:15

games -- Okay. -- with the mute button on, and

31:17

he would do play by play -- Of course. -- to nobody,

31:20

which is perfect. Of course. Tom Brady is gonna

31:22

need somebody like that to train

31:23

with. Mhmm. I would like to offer Jacob

31:25

-- Yeah. -- if Tom Brady needs a

31:27

a play by play guy

31:28

to bounce off of -- Yes. -- Jake will watch

31:31

YouTube games. You can you can pick

31:33

anything out like any game over last ten years.

31:35

Jake will do play by play. You don't

31:37

even have to pay him probably. Yes. I'm totally

31:39

negotiating it. No. He don't pay him. I could say

31:42

right now, you don't have to pay Jake, Tom. You

31:44

can just get Jake to do play by play for

31:46

you. You can work on your colored commentary. Yes.

31:48

So this was my hot seat because I

31:51

actually think it's hot seat, the

31:53

Tom Brady retirement. He's not he's

31:55

spending an entire year off. He's

31:57

basically admitting that he's not gonna start broadcasting

32:00

until twenty twenty four. He's

32:02

not retired. I can be him. I can

32:04

see him being a total psycho about getting ready

32:07

to do Broadway. But he he just left an entire

32:09

year open for him to come

32:11

back. Like, he doesn't have anything holding.

32:13

If he jumps right into the booth and

32:15

the diners get, you know, a bunch of

32:17

injuries, and they call him, it's like, Well, I'm already

32:19

in the booth. I this

32:22

feels like he's just leaving the door a little

32:24

bit open. Also interesting because

32:27

Fox has the Super Bowl in twenty twenty four. So

32:29

I respect that part of Tom Brady's decision where

32:31

he's like, I'm not calling a season unless it ends

32:33

in a Super Bowl. Yeah. They have in twenty twenty four,

32:35

Earl. Yeah. So they have don't know what happened

32:37

with, like, the scheduling. It

32:39

there was a shakeup. I think it's because they gotta get ABC

32:42

into it. Because it's Joe Buck calling

32:44

it in, like, twenty twenty seven. There

32:46

was an article about Joe Buck today that was,

32:48

like and we love Joe Buck, but it was

32:51

just Flex city because it was this article

32:53

started like Joe Buck watched the NFL

32:55

championship game in a bar in Paris. Joe

32:57

Buck's gonna watch this this Super Bowl at a party

32:59

in Cabo. He's like, okay. He's living his best

33:01

life. But yeah. So I'm ready to, by the way, flip

33:04

on JoeBuck again. Yeah. Everybody will have

33:06

to have modern defender himself. Everybody likes

33:08

JoeBuck. Yeah. I'm ready to say like fuck

33:10

that guy. Yeah. I'm I'm in. I'm in. He's

33:12

entitled. He's spoiled. Yeah. He's whiny.

33:14

He hates my team. Yep. I'm in.

33:17

I'm sorry. Like, you were cool for a while, but guess what?

33:19

We're out. Yeah. But come back on the show to defend yourself.

33:21

So Fox has this year's Super Bowl and

33:23

they have it again in twenty twenty four. Okay.

33:26

So and then it resets where it's now

33:28

rotation of NBC, CBS, ABC,

33:31

which would be Joe Bock. Yeah. And fox.

33:33

So yeah. So it was funny that Tom Brady

33:35

is like, oh, wait next year we don't have the Super Bowl.

33:37

I'll just wait till we have the Super Bowl. It does sound

33:39

like Tom Brady is taking a vacation

33:41

away from work to, like, be a dad

33:44

for a year maybe. Try to get yourzel back.

33:46

Mhmm. See how that plays out, not have anything on

33:48

his schedule. And then returning to

33:50

work in whatever context that's gonna be.

33:53

I I think he's done, but if you

33:55

think that that's gonna stop us from speculating

33:58

every time a quarterback gets injured next year. He

34:00

could be a destination for Tom Braeff. He at least

34:03

leaves the door open for speculation. Escalation. Yes.

34:05

Which is because you won't be doing it. Yeah. No. It's it's

34:07

it's thank you thank you from us,

34:09

Tom -- Yeah. -- because we needed that. He also

34:12

did you hear him on Jim Grey's podcast,

34:15

which I I still don't someone's

34:17

gonna have to explain Jim Grey to me at some point.

34:19

Jim Grey? Why? Started a podcast

34:21

appearance. Right. But why is he that why

34:24

is why is it that everyone

34:26

like, why did LeBron do the the

34:28

announcement with Jim Gray when went to Miami.

34:31

Mhmm. That was Jim Gray. Was it not? I think so.

34:33

Why is Brady like, Jim why is Jim Gray

34:35

Brady's got what is Jim who Jim

34:37

Gray was a big deal back in the nineties. I know that.

34:39

But, like, how is he I just

34:42

I I want to maybe we just gotta get Jim Gray

34:44

on the show. Yeah. She's like, how are you doing this So

34:46

How are you the Oprah of sports? Where? They're every,

34:48

like, big only the a a

34:50

plus listers. They're, like, need

34:52

to interview Don, Jim Grant. Feel like Jim

34:54

Grey knows where the bodies are buried. It's crazy.

34:56

That's why, like, he he probably has

34:58

all the details. He's probably it all goes back to being drinking

35:01

buddies with people. I bet you Jim Graves, drinking

35:03

buddies with like Bob Kraft, with Brady's

35:05

agent, and then they go to him because they

35:07

know he's a trusted guy. And he's not

35:09

gonna speculate about some of the things that

35:11

have happened in the past. He was a boxing guy

35:13

for a while too. I think he almost got beat

35:15

up in the ring by Don King, maybe by

35:17

Mike Tyson, I feel like Jim Gray

35:20

almost got punched in the face by Mike Tyson

35:22

in the early nineties and almost blacked out.

35:24

And that kind of proved his mettle where he's like, I'll

35:26

air anybody down. That was also Howard Letterman

35:29

when I think he had the it

35:31

was like, I if I were if I were

35:33

fifty years younger, I'd kick your ass.

35:36

That was him. That was an all time moment.

35:38

Yeah. I'm I'm looking up Jim Gray right now. I'm

35:40

trying to figure out what exactly yeah,

35:43

he's been around forever. He had a Pete Rose,

35:46

big Pete Rose thing. Jim

35:48

Gray, married, no

35:50

no children. Also says that

35:52

Jim Grey is a veteran retired

35:54

special warfare com Oh my god.

35:56

Wait. No. This is different Jim Grey.

35:59

Jim Gray might be This is Jim

36:01

Gray. He's a retired special warfare combat

36:03

crew. No. But that's the master chief for twenty two

36:05

years' experience. No. I'm gonna I'm gonna

36:07

run with this. No. That that's the same

36:09

Jim Gray. I think it's the same Jim Gray.

36:12

Maybe that's everyone's just respecting the troops

36:14

by asking Jim Gray to do these interviews. It's like

36:16

the the old rumor that mister Rogers, he wore

36:18

the sweaters all the time because he had all the army

36:21

tattoos on his arm. And he had like fifty

36:23

three confirmed killers as a sniper. Yeah.

36:25

I like that rumor. I'm gonna just transfer that

36:27

to Gymboree. Gymboree is a fucking assassin. Damn.

36:29

Jim Gray. Three times sports reporter

36:32

of the year. What a what a

36:34

what a career? If you ask someone to figure out,

36:36

how does Jim Gray just be the guy? So,

36:38

yeah, the Bella Check and Brady were on

36:40

the show together. And Brady, like, almost

36:43

cried. Because it was it is crazy.

36:45

It was one of those moments where you feel really

36:47

stupid with how

36:50

everyone covers sports and, like, the

36:52

Brady verse bell check thing because they basically both

36:54

are, like, yeah, we love each other. We there's

36:56

no way we would either of us would have the success

36:59

without the other. And it was one of

37:01

those no dumb moments. Like, yeah, of course.

37:03

Yeah. It's also very funny when he's got bored and

37:05

we're like, they've won six Super Bowls. How can

37:07

we split them up? Yeah. It's funny that that

37:09

he had Brady and Belichak on

37:12

his podcast at the same time. And

37:14

we all agreed as a society that it's not that big

37:16

a deal and let's not talk about Okay. Jim Gray, that's the

37:18

part that I wanna say Jim Gray doesn't move

37:20

the needle except for the

37:22

the, like, premier app. Can you

37:24

imagine if if BellaCheck and Brady

37:26

went on a premier podcast

37:28

together? Like, call her daddy --

37:30

Yeah. -- and got interviewed at the same time. That

37:32

would we'd all be talking about it. It's like

37:34

the secret to our successes. We we

37:36

found out day one that we both loved clock

37:38

look five thousand. And that's and

37:40

that's how you build the foundation of a relief.

37:42

Tom had the Kuch Gabbler unlock. Yeah.

37:44

Okay. And Bill, you like getting sucked off too?

37:47

Ernie Adams used to come in the room in Peguis

37:49

as we were doing film study, and that really drove

37:51

home all the lessons that we need to learn. Oh,

37:53

alright. My other hot seat was Jay

37:55

Williams, that dust up with Steven a was

37:57

all time, like, one of

38:00

those true great moments where

38:04

It was very personal on air,

38:06

and you could feel the tension. And

38:08

Stephen and I just body them because he just kept he

38:10

he basically called him out because Jay Williams

38:13

loves to say, I find it interesting,

38:16

which is a very good way, easy way,

38:18

a cop out way of not actually saying

38:20

what you feel. And Steven a was just

38:22

like, you keep saying that just say what you wanna

38:24

say. I find it interesting that Jay Williams keeps

38:26

saying I find it interesting. Yeah. Right. Right. And

38:28

that's exactly what he was doing. He was saying, I

38:30

find it interesting that you have all this

38:32

animosity towards Kyrie Irving and

38:34

you don't bring that same energy towards

38:36

Jeff Bezos. Which is a very funny

38:39

thing to see as a sentence. But

38:41

his implication was that Jeff Bezos,

38:43

by not taking down the link to the documentary,

38:46

of the anti Semitic film that Kyrie Irving

38:48

promoted was just as culpable as

38:51

Kyrie was. And it's it's funny to imagine Jeff

38:53

Bezos who don't even think is a CEO

38:55

of Amazon anymore. But, like, sitting

38:57

down and screening every documentary that

38:59

he sells on Amazon and giving it a rating

39:01

and be like, no, you know what? Didn't like

39:03

what this filmmaker was trying to do, so we're

39:05

gonna take this off the online store. Now

39:08

I'm I'm gonna say this just because if

39:10

I'm wrong and it's just false statement,

39:12

then we'll just call it even me and Jay Williams

39:14

for his tweet about I May

39:16

O'Docca being the first African male That wasn't

39:18

Jay. He was hacked. He was hacked. Either way, I'm

39:20

gonna go for it. I'm pretty sure

39:22

I have a memory of Jay Williams after

39:25

the entire documentary thing. He

39:27

said that he watched it and there were some interesting

39:29

points in it. I'm pretty sure he said, okay.

39:33

Who knows if I I'm someone

39:35

would maybe have to go find that for me

39:37

he I think he said it was bad. Like, he's

39:39

like, it's a bad documentary, but there were some

39:41

interesting things that were brought up. I just I just

39:43

felt it was interesting how the trains ran

39:45

exactly on time. Yes. Yes. So someone

39:48

find that for me so I can be vindicated and

39:50

then I can we're we're Jay Williams and

39:52

I are no longer even I still own one. Miss Steve

39:54

a Smith, was I think he was the victor

39:56

in this situation. It was basically was

39:59

making Jay Williams very emotional -- Yeah. -- on

40:01

the air, and Jay didn't really know how to explain his way

40:03

out of it. And then at the end, Molly blessed

40:05

her heart had to step in and go, like, okay,

40:07

fellas. We're all friends and colleagues, and Jay Williams

40:09

was over there, like, staring on looked like he was

40:11

gonna cry. And also Steven Ace Smith had an

40:13

unbelievable line when Jay Williams

40:15

tried to call him triggered and Steven Ace Smith said, I'm

40:18

always triggered. Yeah. It's like you can't beat

40:20

that. Yeah. He's always triggered. He had always

40:22

ready to fight. Yeah. It was great. It was it was

40:24

it it was kinda similar to WWE,

40:27

but it was real. Yeah. Right. No. It was it was

40:29

that one moment where it breaks and you're like, wait,

40:31

these guys really don't like each other. When

40:33

Jay Williams thanks Steven A Smith for

40:35

allowing him to speak for ninety seconds

40:37

on the show. At that point, you knew

40:39

that there was something personal that Jay was holding back,

40:42

and Steven A Smith was he was

40:44

like, he smelled blood in the water. And there's

40:46

no more dangerous, Steven Smith, than when there's

40:48

blood in the water. Yes. Yes. And then my cool

40:50

throne, we're talking about on Monday, Max, you

40:52

ready? Where you purchased these tickets?

40:55

So the Super Bowl. Said. And

40:57

also, we've decided we added memes

40:59

is gonna go as well. So memes

41:02

isn't part of the deal. He's gonna sit with them. He's

41:04

gonna get all the content. We're gonna have an incredible

41:06

PM TV out for this. So

41:08

Max will will have a entire episode of Max

41:10

the Super Bowl. We'll have social clips.

41:13

So memes, I'll get reimbursed for the ticket

41:15

I buy for you, so you you don't have

41:17

to pay me if the chief win. So that one will

41:19

be separate. You can pay me if the Chiefs win.

41:22

I'll accept that. You're allowed to do

41:24

that. You

41:24

can you can also pay me. No. No.

41:26

Max. Max don't don't step on my toes

41:28

here means you are more than welcome to pay

41:30

me if the Chiefs won. Okay. This

41:32

is a big purchase max. What are you thinking?

41:35

I found there's shout game

41:37

time by the way, buying them on game time, use bars

41:39

to one hundred for a hundred dollars off. I

41:42

think these ones right here Section

41:44

four seventeen, row 70I

41:46

shouldn't say this out

41:47

loud. Bleep that. People will just be

41:49

coming up to you. Yeah. No. No. We don't need that. We

41:51

don't need that. We don't need that. Alright.

41:54

I need to yeah. Let's

41:56

well, yeah, Roan is bailed on us.

41:58

It's disgusting. That's fine. Just show me where he's

42:00

gonna sit in. Show me where you wanna sit.

42:02

This chair this couch is an absolute You're

42:04

asking that Hank ruined it. Show me

42:07

point to where you wanna sit, and then I'll tell you

42:09

the price. I'm gonna scroll

42:11

real quick. I think it's these ones right here.

42:14

Those are those look sick. Don't

42:16

you think?

42:17

Yeah. Okay. Are these? A

42:19

little more expensive? Yeah.

42:22

Let's go with a little more expensive. Oh, okay.

42:25

Okay. Alright. Three

42:27

seats together. The total price

42:29

is eighteen thousand nine hundred and

42:31

sixty. And you're

42:33

paying for how much of that? Whatever

42:36

two thirds of that. So Max, we

42:39

we had an interview Max Homi. gonna be on the

42:41

show what next week? Yeah. So Max was

42:43

talking to us. It was really interesting about his confidence

42:45

and how he developed, like, a sense of real confidence

42:48

that's not just based on this hard tough

42:50

exterior shell

42:51

of, like, pretending to be super confident. I

42:54

couldn't help but think about you and how you not been

42:56

acting this week towards the the Eagles

42:58

because you do have this, like, hard shell

43:00

of confidence on the outside. Well, he

43:03

the way he really said it was there was

43:05

a difference between someone like Billy

43:07

who has delusional

43:08

constipation.

43:08

I think he said he he could be clinically diagnosed

43:11

as being confident. Yes. So

43:14

I I'd like to that I'm somewhere in the middle

43:16

of Billy

43:18

and Max, but probably closer to Billy.

43:20

Yeah. I actually think that's fair and that's

43:22

growth.

43:23

Yeah. You admitting that right now is

43:25

you can admit that you're you're nervous, that

43:27

you're shaky because this is the biggest game of

43:29

your

43:29

life. While also believing that the Eagles

43:31

are good enough to win the Super Bowl. No. You can have

43:33

both. I it's

43:36

starting up to a point where I

43:38

like the Eagles so much in this game that it's like

43:41

there's no

43:41

way. That's like like there's no way this is going to happen.

43:43

It makes

43:43

too much sense that the Eagles are going to win this game,

43:45

but that's not true. That's I'm gonna be going back and forth

43:48

all week. It's the only thing that's on my mind.

43:50

We have, like, a really busy work week and then

43:52

every single at at, like, every single thing that

43:54

I do, it's,

43:55

like, I just need to remember that, like, Sunday.

43:57

Sunday I need to be ready to go.

43:58

Yeah. Is this a can't can't lose

44:01

or must win for you?

44:02

This is a can't lose. Yeah. Okay. That's why

44:04

that's why I thought this is a can't.

44:06

Does it does it make you nervous that Nick Seriani

44:08

said it was a must win? Everything

44:11

that on it everything Nick Seriani

44:13

does makes me

44:14

nervous, but he still wins. Yeah. So the answer

44:16

is yes. That sounds like it's good. That's a good

44:18

way to describe Nick Seriani. It's like he

44:20

he comes across as the biggest loser in the

44:22

world, but he's really good. I don't like anything

44:24

that comes out of his mouth ever. Yeah. But

44:26

he gets resolved. But he's great. He's great. He gets

44:29

resolved. I look at him as, like, a Peter Lonzo sort

44:31

of of

44:32

football.

44:33

Okay. Like, it's not baseball season,

44:34

man. Yeah. But I'm just thinking. You just Half

44:36

our audience just tuned on. Alright.

44:40

J. J. Time? Yeah. Hold on. I'm I'm

44:42

purchasing them. So I hope

44:44

that I can transfer these. I wonder what

44:46

if the NFL bans me. I don't

44:48

think they could do that.

44:51

Okay. Now I have to do alright.

44:53

Then we'll do this after. Because now

44:55

the tickets are you don't need to know

44:57

what? It's gonna be nineteen thousand dollars. Me nineteen

45:00

thousand dollars. Okay. So that's

45:03

okay. That's -- Yeah. -- yeah. That's in that's

45:05

in that's in my that's in my

45:06

budget. Yeah. That's fine. That's fine.

45:09

Oh, wait. We have breaking news. Yeah.

45:11

Max? Breaking news?

45:13

Yeah. You have to do breaking news. Oh.

45:16

Break he moves. Rogers

45:21

has talked about Erin Rogers has talked

45:23

on the Pat Mackenzie show about potentially

45:25

retiring this off season. I don't know because

45:27

I haven't seen the clip yet. don't know what

45:29

context to take this in. But Aaron Rogers

45:31

says that this off season He has

45:33

an opportunity to do little self reflection

45:36

and some isolation. And then after that,

45:38

he's going to be a lot closer to the final final

45:40

decision. He has not even decided yet

45:42

whether he's going to play in twenty twenty three.

45:45

That's why I think it's going to be important to

45:47

get through this week and take my isolation retreat.

45:49

And contemplate all things my future.

45:52

He called it a darkness retreat for four

45:54

nights alone. He said he will be in

45:56

pitch black all day and all night

45:58

for four days and nights. It's really

46:00

sensory deprivation isolation. He

46:02

said it stimulates DMT and there can be

46:04

some hallucinations. I

46:07

love Aaron Rogers. Okay. I love love to

46:09

meet him. Yeah. He's locking him he's gonna

46:11

be waterboarding himself. Basically,

46:14

to to stimulate his brain

46:16

-- Yes. -- to release the god parts. Yes. So

46:18

he can figure out whether or not he wants to make

46:20

fifty eight million dollars next Yes. I can

46:22

save you you don't have to have your brain

46:24

exert the chemical that's reserved

46:27

for you when you die to pacify you

46:29

and make passing into the afterlife smoothly.

46:31

To know that, yes, you do want to play football

46:34

for one more year for fifty million dollars.

46:36

It's pretty easy. I'll save you that pretty easy.

46:38

By the way, the tickets have been purchased. Okay?

46:40

So you're ready to go. You're ready to go.

46:42

Also, just one last thing, memes

46:46

memes had never been to an NFL game.

46:49

And in the last month, he's

46:51

going he went to a playoff game

46:53

in Kansas City in the Super Bowl. Mhmm.

46:56

Pretty good. I never been to a fucking Super Bowl.

46:59

Jesus Christ. You literally had never been to

47:01

an NFL

47:01

game. Jesus, really. He's go to the

47:03

Super Bowl.

47:05

That's the same. But it will be great content, and

47:07

we'll do it. It will be a great PM TV.

47:09

You'll get to see Max and All's glory. We'll we'll

47:11

be tweeting out all the live stuff So

47:13

make sure you follow maybe even you go

47:15

live at some point from the part of my

47:17

take Instagram. Who knows what the WiFi

47:19

situation is gonna be like? Yeah. You're gonna get to

47:22

see Rihanna up close? Yep. Hank and

47:24

Jake aren't here. I can say that with impunity. Are

47:26

you like I'm very excited

47:28

to see Rihanna. I'm I'm very excited to just

47:31

watch Max. I I wish I had just

47:33

had you. I might have a personal

47:35

file of memes just sending

47:36

everything. I'm not

47:38

Yeah. Don't know. The closer it gets, like, the

47:40

more my heart is just like

47:41

You're gonna scream at a little child and

47:43

life's gonna be. Oh, man. Yeah.

47:46

I'm pro there's gonna be there's there could

47:48

be

47:48

tears. Every time I start talking about

47:50

it, he starts, like, getting deep

47:52

into the successes of his brain and

47:55

realizing the loss is a possibility. And

47:57

you can hear the switch in his brain where he's like,

47:59

it's gonna be, man.

48:04

It's gonna be. That's

48:07

him realizing that a loss could happen. He

48:09

and in that scenario, he gets into, like,

48:11

I'm gonna fight somebody. Yes. Yes.

48:13

I'm gonna be fighting someone with tears in my eyes.

48:15

Yeah. Which first time someone ever gets his ass beat

48:17

while the other man's

48:18

crying. That would be awesome. You should actually think

48:20

about doing

48:21

that. You're gonna see a a

48:23

rare side of me on Sunday night if the eagle lose

48:25

this game. Yeah. And it's I think we all

48:27

know what side of you. That's gonna be I also seen it.

48:29

I'll I'll gonna say this right now. Let's make

48:31

sure maybe Sunday before

48:34

you go to this ADM will do like a quick video

48:36

with me and PFT just getting you

48:38

pumped. Maybe we'll just go live for a minute. Just

48:40

just last thoughts before you go into war.

48:42

Okay. Yeah. So -- Yeah. -- get ready for that. Yeah.

48:44

I'm ready. I'm ready. Okay. Let's do the

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he is j j watt. Okay.

49:41

We now welcome on. A very special

49:43

guest, recurring guest. think we can give him

49:45

two very. Very, very, very special

49:47

guest. Future hall of famer. It

49:50

is JJ Watt. We

49:52

have to first of

49:53

all, thank you for coming.

49:54

Thanks for having

49:55

me. This is the first exclusive interview you've

49:57

given since you retired.

49:59

Let's say that.

50:00

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Correct.

50:02

I mean, what other show did you do?

50:04

Yeah. Rich Eisen? I did Rich and Dan

50:06

today, but not exclusive.

50:07

Not exclusive. You definitely didn't go on,

50:09

Keller. Right? Yeah.

50:11

No. Okay. Good. Also, Rich and Dan,

50:13

I would assume, didn't ask you, like, how

50:15

long could you feel Ravell creeping on

50:17

you on her last

50:18

game. Like, we're gonna get to that. Look course. We're

50:20

gonna get to that. So those are the good ones.

50:22

This is gonna be a good Yes. It does.

50:25

Yes. Alright. So it's great to have

50:27

you on here. If it I'm

50:29

sad that you retired. Are you actually

50:31

retired though? We have to start there. No. But come on.

50:33

Yes. Like, really? Yeah. Let's hit him

50:35

with some hypothetically Well, okay.

50:37

Hypothetically, the Steelers

50:40

are the one seed next. Year.

50:41

Right? Right. They they lose a

50:43

defense alignment -- Right. -- going into playoffs.

50:46

It's like week seventeen. They're like, hey, J.

50:48

J. Hey, JJ.

50:50

You wanna come play? Ten million dollars.

50:52

Wow. Finish out the

50:53

season. Ten million to finish out

50:55

the season. Yeah. Seventeen. Both of brothers.

50:57

I mean The one so long now.

50:59

In Pittsburgh, are you are you going to deny

51:01

your family the joy of watching you play with

51:03

your brothers? I

51:04

mean, if there's ten million dollars in week

51:06

seventeen, with the one seat and everything. That

51:08

is in consideration. Alright. So you're not retired. No.

51:10

I'm retired. You're definitely not retired. Well, I mean, you saw Tom

51:12

Brady retire. You're like, well, now I have to share the hall of

51:14

fame induction ceremony with that guy. It's gonna be

51:16

all about Tom that weekend, put it

51:18

off a week, and then it's like you and Matt Ryan.

51:20

You'll definitely get the

51:21

answers. Perfect.

51:22

Yeah. You'll get the last speech.

51:25

Oh, I don't want the last speech. Oh, yeah. No

51:27

interest in the last speech. Okay. So I can, like, I can just

51:29

fluff it up for Tom and let him hit it out of the park.

51:31

I can give him all, like, the

51:34

praise and everything and then just let him maybe

51:36

say like a quick sentence about me before he gets

51:38

into --

51:38

Yeah. -- thanking everybody.

51:40

So alright. So this is where we get Hank in a pickle

51:42

his Hank still hates you. No doubt. Yeah.

51:44

And and you you knew

51:45

it. I'm here for it. I'm here for it.

51:47

Yes. You're on it up. You said that Hank, I'm sorry

51:49

that you hate me.

51:49

Yeah. It was

51:50

sad to see the look on the little troll smiling.

51:52

Yes. Well,

51:52

he's proud of it. I'm sure I mean, he should be he's one he's

51:55

holding on. He's holding on to where he which

51:57

is great. So we so I told him last

51:59

night. I was like, you know, you know, the old

52:01

saying, like, you can't tell the story of football

52:03

without this person. That's that's kind of the mark

52:05

of a whole family. You can't tell the story of football without

52:08

JJW. And, you know, the dominance you

52:10

had. I don't think you can tell the story of

52:12

JJ Watts without pardon

52:14

my take. Uh-huh. So I'm wondering

52:16

if maybe we should probably give the speech

52:18

beforehand. You

52:20

know, your son won't be old enough. So --

52:22

Right. -- maybe it's just us and

52:25

and and you invite us to Canton

52:27

with you. And Hank will unfortunately

52:29

not be able to attend even though Tom Brady will

52:31

also be being ducted that

52:33

weekend. Right. So, I mean, You know?

52:35

Maybe we could give your speech tonight before at the

52:37

point. We should

52:38

set up there and can. Yeah.

52:40

And we'll I mean, if I'm fortunate enough

52:42

to get in, do we do a PMT from there?

52:44

Don't do that. We don't do that. won't

52:46

do that. I won't I won't. Go

52:48

on. When you retired, we actually had the debate

52:51

on part of my take. It was a no brainer. A

52:53

lot of people will say like J. J. Watt, great

52:55

player, all time

52:56

player, even better person. That's

52:59

bullshit shit.

53:00

No. Wait a minute. You

53:02

are a person. You're a pretty good person. Oh, thank

53:04

you. You're very good person. But any of these guys out

53:06

there that are, like, even better

53:08

Nope. Not true. Thank you. As

53:10

good of a person.

53:10

I appreciate that. I appreciate that and probably

53:13

true. Probably true. Let's take off the

53:15

humble stuff for a second. Right. Your

53:17

peak. Because when you were at

53:19

your peak, you were the most dominant player

53:21

in the NFL. Where would you put

53:23

yourself? I know that, like, alright, Reggie White,

53:25

maybe Lawrence Taylor, you're in the conversation.

53:27

At your peak. Like if you took best

53:29

defensive players at their peak --

53:31

Right. -- you're in the conversation. Yeah. That's

53:33

that's the problem. That's the I was taught

53:35

literally having this debate this morning with

53:38

a couple guys. And the issue with

53:40

debates like that is what's what what are you

53:42

talking about? When you say greatest defender of all

53:44

time, Are you talking about longevity

53:47

of their career? Are you talking about if you

53:49

took everything in their career and put together, or

53:51

are you talking about for one single game? Are

53:53

you talking about for one single season that

53:55

which player would you want because that's different. I mean,

53:57

I'm I'm never gonna argue for the longevity

54:00

of my career. I had injuries, I had issues, I had things

54:02

going

54:02

on. But for one season or

54:04

one game, I I'll I'll put myself in

54:06

the argument. I like that. Yeah. Because it's I mean,

54:08

it's a fact. Like, your dominance in

54:10

that stretch. Was it three in a row? Did you

54:12

win three in a row or three out of four? Three out of four.

54:14

Three out of four defense player in the years,

54:16

like and and I think that,

54:18

you know, maybe I I think

54:21

people recognize that. They realized like

54:23

that stretch where it felt like there

54:25

was a stretch where it felt like every

54:27

time they would go on red zone, and they cut to a Texas

54:29

game. It was like, what did JJ watchers do?

54:31

And I the one thing that I I heard

54:34

about you and I don't know if you can speak

54:36

to, like, how this is possible. But

54:38

in in hearing about, like, offensive linemen

54:41

talk about how you played, they said the difference

54:43

between you and everyone else is that you your

54:45

motor never stopped. So you, like, play one

54:48

to play seventy. You are still

54:50

going a hundred percent. Is that like

54:53

You know that when you were

54:54

playing, like, I have the ability to just never

54:56

let up even a little bit. Yeah. That that's

54:58

something I pride myself on. And I think

55:00

I mean, I don't have it in front of me,

55:02

but I I would say if

55:05

I looked at most of the Sachs and most

55:07

of the TFLs and things from my career, I

55:09

would assume that a decent majority

55:11

of them were either in the back half

55:13

of the season or in the back half of games like the

55:15

second half because Guys get worn

55:17

down. Guys get tired. Whether it's the second half of

55:19

a game or it's the second half of the season, you

55:21

just get gassed, and that's what I

55:23

pride myself. I mean, all know

55:25

my history of working out and I'll Yeah. -- some of the bullshit.

55:28

But that that's why I was who I

55:30

was at the end of the season because of

55:32

that and it's also part of the reason I ended

55:34

up

55:34

injured.

55:34

I like you say that some of the bullshit when you retired

55:37

and then the next day you took picture of you at

55:39

the squad rack.

55:40

Not the next day.

55:41

It was with the same day?

55:42

No. Oh. He took a day off?

55:44

No.

55:44

It was, like, a couple of that you're talking about the one from

55:47

Claudio. When when Demiko got hired?

55:49

Yeah. How how long break did you

55:51

take? Okay. I took

55:53

ten days. I thought Ten days. Wow.

55:55

I I felt Yeah. Yeah. Tenmo

55:58

I can't do I can't do your guys' lifestyle.

56:00

Okay? I just can't.

56:01

I I tried it for ten days. I

56:03

I mean, I went home to Wisconsin for a weekend

56:06

and we threw a good party at a little

56:08

Irish pub in my town and got after

56:10

it pretty good. And I had no routine,

56:12

no nothing. I'd sleep till I could wake up every

56:14

day and hang out with my son all day and

56:17

was

56:17

like, dude, I gotta get a routine. This is a

56:19

shit show. Like, just That's actually freedom

56:21

can be bad too. Yeah. That's also perfect too.

56:23

You basically were like, I went to Wisconsin

56:26

bar in the middle of winter looked around and

56:28

was like, I can't

56:29

do this. Yeah. This this

56:32

cannot be a weekly thing, man. Like, this

56:34

cannot be it. So do do you

56:36

have any plans for retirement? Are you gonna step

56:38

on Artsurf? Or are you gonna be one of these players

56:40

that retire some things they can take over the podcasting

56:42

game? Our motor never No. We don't. Right. I can't

56:44

get up to them. Yeah. You will. No. That's

56:46

why you will. You do not. You guys are the reason I

56:48

will not get into podcasts because of how much

56:51

It's too you have to be pumping out

56:53

content at such a crazy rate, and you have

56:55

to be doing it with such like ferocity and enthusiasm,

56:57

and you have to be doing it constantly. And you

56:59

have to have a team that puts it together,

57:02

that literally is a deterrent for me.

57:04

Like, I I don't want to work that hard

57:06

at

57:06

that. Okay. So that's

57:09

not it for me. Yeah. Let's show us a little secret. It's

57:11

really easy. Yeah. It's super easy. These guys

57:13

do it all. These guys do it all. A lot of it. They're

57:15

not actually doing anything right now. Yeah. Just

57:17

the microphones connect to the Internet and then

57:19

people listen to us. It's pretty That's fair. Although,

57:21

I think that you probably would take pride in, like,

57:23

we do we take pride in having bad opinions, you'd

57:26

probably wanna be correct. That's

57:28

that's really the the key to podcasting

57:30

is, like, if you don't care about being correct,

57:32

it's very easy. That's fair. That's one of the

57:35

issues that I have because, I mean, I do think that there's

57:37

some form of broadcasting for me in the future just

57:39

because I don't wanna be away from the game. I wanna be

57:41

around the game. I love it. Early in my

57:43

career, I said I'd never do it. But the close

57:45

I got to the end, I realized, like, it's

57:47

just it's too cool. Like, the NFL is

57:49

awesome. And I wanna be around it, but I don't wanna

57:51

be around it in capacity where I have to pour all

57:53

my time and energy into it. But the

57:55

problem with broadcasting is is every week you gotta

57:57

make those picks where they put the little thing at the bottom

57:59

and they're like just he picked twenty seven to

58:01

thirteen. Then on Monday, everybody comes in and like, look at this

58:03

moron. And I'm like, what do you want me do?

58:05

If I knew what I was

58:06

doing, I'd go to Vegas.

58:07

I put it all on the line. Nice.

58:08

Nobody knows what's going on.

58:10

Yeah. You just have to be so bad you become

58:12

good. Yeah.

58:13

It's like when everybody picks the one, I'm the guy

58:15

that picks the other one. And then when you do win, they're

58:17

like,

58:17

He knew. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Right. And those

58:20

I never lost. I'm wanting to know my last one.

58:22

Yeah. Like, I mean, the game of the year. Yeah. Yeah.

58:24

I gotta have Took a game year almost killed

58:26

me this year. The Baylor BYU game,

58:28

I didn't sleep, and I I got sick

58:30

for, like, two weeks after. So, yeah, it is

58:32

it's harder than the NFL out. Say.

58:35

Oh, easily. Yeah. Easily. I'm watching all

58:37

these games. If I knew what I like my buddies I mean,

58:39

even just since the season then, if my buddies are asking

58:41

me opinions and shit, and I'm trying to, like, I'm literally

58:44

trying to think, like, who would I actually pick in this

58:46

game? And I'm I'm nowhere close. Yeah.

58:48

Somewhere close. So you might wanna get into broadcasting.

58:50

I'm hearing a no to coaching. Yeah.

58:52

Demiko calls you up and he's

58:54

like, hey. Yeah. I need your expertise on the defensive

58:56

line. Are you going are

58:57

you thinking about it?

58:58

I'll pop in and and talk to the boys

59:00

I'll I'll watch practice and I'll talk to him. But no, I

59:02

have no interest in the hours and

59:04

the time commitment and going to the combine

59:06

and, like, going to the senior bowl and doing

59:08

all these things. I I do not have interest in

59:11

that. It is very funny whenever a guy

59:13

retires like you and they're like, oh, he's gonna

59:15

be a coach. It's like, Do you know how

59:17

much? In, like, college coach. College

59:19

coach would be -- Oh. -- miserable. Yeah.

59:22

They put in so many hours. So many hours.

59:24

About any school coach like Phillips. High school high

59:26

school is certainly intriguing to me no doubt

59:28

because of

59:29

a, the hours are less, but b,

59:31

the impact that you can have.

59:33

Yeah. In the way that you can get to those kids and

59:35

you can actually have some real conversations. There's

59:38

no NIL. There's no anything else. You're just

59:40

I mean, my high my high school coach had one of the biggest

59:43

impacts on me and some of the messages he gave.

59:45

And I think that you can help mold the kid's

59:47

life and not not the kid that's going to college

59:49

to play football. You you can mold the kid's life

59:51

who's going to to college

59:53

or going to the

59:53

trades. I mean, my my one of my best friends from back

59:56

home as a plumber and to this day, we talk about

59:58

the messages our high school coach gave

59:59

us. Yes. That's cool. That is very cool.

1:00:02

That's awesome. Yeah. How's your heart doing? It's

1:00:04

alright, man. It's crazy. So I I after

1:00:07

that incident happened, it

1:00:09

scared the shit out of me and I had a lot

1:00:11

of, like, deep deep thoughts

1:00:13

about life and everything. And for

1:00:15

about a week, week and a half, I would

1:00:17

check my pulse ten times a day. And I'm

1:00:19

just checking my heart like, I had devices

1:00:21

and everything I was checking it just because I was scared. And --

1:00:23

Yeah. -- everything was normal. And then I

1:00:26

think it was probably best that I jumped

1:00:28

right back into the game because it

1:00:30

didn't give me time to think about

1:00:31

it. And then I all of a sudden settled back into my routine,

1:00:33

and I was it it went away. I stopped thinking about

1:00:36

it. One of those things where, like, it was you thought

1:00:38

that you had to get back in the routine at the time, but maybe

1:00:40

five, ten years from

1:00:41

now, you're gonna look back and be like, why did play

1:00:45

a game of football? Like, a week after my part

1:00:47

got shocked back

1:00:48

It can definitely seem like that. And then

1:00:50

for me and my wife at the time, it it kinda

1:00:52

felt like that. Oh,

1:00:53

you guys got divorced? No.

1:00:55

At that least That's not all. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:57

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:00:58

So but I mean,

1:01:01

you

1:01:01

literally I mean, I talked to eight

1:01:04

or nine doctors in a forty eight hour

1:01:06

period that weekend. And I was

1:01:08

asking every single question, like, what can possibly

1:01:10

happen? What happens if my heart goes back out

1:01:12

of rhythm during the game. What happens if when

1:01:14

practicing tomorrow my heart goes out of rhythm? Like,

1:01:17

every single question. I mean, I had anesthesia, they

1:01:19

put me out to shock my heart back in. And I'm like,

1:01:21

what happens if I'm at practice tomorrow and I just

1:01:23

had anesthesia

1:01:24

today. Like -- Yeah. -- we asked every question

1:01:26

and the doctors gave me the all clear. So

1:01:29

What exactly happened? Like, what how did

1:01:31

it all happen. Take us through,

1:01:33

like, you just woke up one day and it was I

1:01:35

don't know. No. So I I was at

1:01:38

practice on Wednesday. Went

1:01:40

out to practice. I came in, did my workout.

1:01:43

After my workout, I

1:01:46

was in the meetings in the afternoon, And

1:01:48

I stood up after one of our meetings, and I

1:01:50

was like, light headed. You know that feeling sometimes we stand

1:01:52

up in your light headed, and you're like, whoa, you just gotta balance

1:01:54

yourself. Which is normal. So I was like, god,

1:01:56

let's go on. But the next meeting, I

1:01:58

stood up and I had it again, and I was like, my

1:02:01

heart was being weird. And one of our assistant coaches

1:02:03

looked at me. He was like, you alright? And

1:02:05

the little you are right, kinda

1:02:07

gave me that, like, oh, shit. Somebody else saw it.

1:02:09

Right? It

1:02:09

wasn't just me feeling like little off.

1:02:12

I went in our trainers. I was like, hey, my heart's beating

1:02:14

a little weird and I'm real short of breath. Can

1:02:16

you just check my And they check my pulse

1:02:19

And our trainer looked at me and he

1:02:20

was, like, we're gonna we're gonna send you

1:02:22

look at some and that scares the shit out of

1:02:24

you. Because, like, was just expecting it

1:02:26

to be, like, yeah, no problem. So then he sent me to

1:02:28

our team doctor. They get an EKG

1:02:31

on me. He read the EKG and he was like,

1:02:33

oh, I'm gonna I'm gonna send you to a cardiologist

1:02:36

right now. And so I'm like,

1:02:38

fuck a man. So they sent me the cardiologist

1:02:41

and the cardiologist runs a test and he's

1:02:43

doing ultrasound of my heart.

1:02:45

And so I'm laying on the table and I've told this story

1:02:47

before, but I'm laying on the table doing an ultrasound literally

1:02:50

the week before we were doing an ultrasound of my son.

1:02:52

Yep. So I'm getting ultrasound to my son seeing

1:02:54

that. And then the next week, we're doing ultrasound to

1:02:56

my heart seeing if I'm like gonna live or

1:02:58

I don't know. I have no clue. I'm like, am I gonna die?

1:03:01

And it scared the shit on me. And I was

1:03:03

so worried and everything, and my wife is worried,

1:03:06

I mean, it's and he does the ultrasound,

1:03:08

and he goes okay, I'm gonna

1:03:10

send you to a specialist. And now I'm like,

1:03:12

what the fuck man? Like, why? I'm sent

1:03:14

five wrongs up the ladder here. Like, this is real.

1:03:17

And they sent me to, like, a electrophysicist or

1:03:20

something and and he was explaining to me what

1:03:22

was going on and it was it was basically

1:03:25

just an Afib. I mean, people have Afib all time.

1:03:27

There's people walking around with Afib. Like,

1:03:29

so in the end, it turned out to not be the

1:03:31

scariest thing, but it was scary because I'm a professional

1:03:33

athlete. Right. And it we

1:03:36

caught it within twenty four hours, which meant

1:03:39

that that saved a lot of potential issues.

1:03:41

Because if you're out for more than forty eight hours,

1:03:43

you can blood clot issues are going to have stroke potential

1:03:45

on things. But since we caught it so

1:03:47

fast,

1:03:48

they said, you're okay. We shocked it

1:03:50

back in and did it was was It was

1:03:52

crazy. So

1:03:53

what I'm hearing is you're a clone, and

1:03:55

the real j j was. Yeah. Yeah. I

1:03:57

mean, the real JJJI would never talk to

1:03:59

him. Yeah. You're they're right. You're right. They're

1:04:01

right. That's So that's what happened. Is it I'm

1:04:03

all AI. It's all AI. That's

1:04:05

that's scary, though. And and having, like, your heart

1:04:07

shock back into rhythm and then Yeah. You're

1:04:10

right. Like, looking you're always looking over your

1:04:12

shoulder. Like, am I going back into it and

1:04:13

then your

1:04:14

mind thinks maybe you're going back into it when you're not

1:04:16

Until this day, I'll check my stats. And my

1:04:18

wife, I mean, so so they took me into the hospital

1:04:21

to shock it back in the rhythm. And my wife,

1:04:23

they're like, would you like to be in the room for it? And

1:04:25

she's like, no. I don't wanna be in the like,

1:04:27

what the fuck do you mean? No. So, I mean, they

1:04:30

literally I mean, took my shirt off, like,

1:04:32

gave me some anesthesia to put me

1:04:34

out. And then put the pads on your chest, like, just

1:04:36

like you

1:04:36

do, like, shock you. And then ten

1:04:38

minutes later, it's in harmony.

1:04:39

Ten minutes later, I'm out the door. And then I

1:04:41

stopped she broke up with you after that. You're

1:04:44

Lois. That's a crazy

1:04:46

story. Then you played, like and then

1:04:49

the Mar Hamlin stuff happened. You that had to have

1:04:51

been it was you're

1:04:52

like, that could have been me. I mean, I know it's

1:04:54

different, but -- Yes. -- so we're we're sitting

1:04:56

in my house watching It's me and my wife and

1:04:59

her son. I'm just watching

1:05:01

the game on Monday night. And I went to the kitchen

1:05:03

to make some food. And I turned

1:05:05

around and looked at the TV and there's everybody stopped

1:05:08

and so I I stand and I stood in

1:05:10

front of my fireplace in front of the TV three feet

1:05:12

away from the TV four forty five

1:05:14

minutes

1:05:14

out. Yeah. I did not move. And it was

1:05:17

just the scariest. And then at

1:05:19

that moment, my wife had already known that I was

1:05:21

retiring and everything, and that was when she was like,

1:05:23

I could not be more happy that you're retiring. Yeah.

1:05:26

I mean, it's just

1:05:27

scary.

1:05:27

Wait. So when did you decide you're gonna retire?

1:05:30

Months months ago.

1:05:31

Really? Yeah. I knew Was it the start

1:05:33

of the season or was it before the season? It was

1:05:36

before the season, I I knew

1:05:38

that if I was playing at a level that I was

1:05:40

proud of, it was over. Like, I've been

1:05:42

kind of trying to find that season

1:05:44

where I was putting film out there and I was playing football

1:05:46

that I was proud of, that I could show

1:05:48

my son my final season and say,

1:05:51

look, this is dad. I didn't want it to be an

1:05:53

injury season. I didn't want it to be, you

1:05:55

know, a season where I sucked. Like, I wanted

1:05:57

it to be something where I could look back on and be proud

1:05:59

of.

1:05:59

And your return retirement. The way you did

1:06:01

it was awesome. The tweet, it confused

1:06:03

lot of people. Did you realize that? No.

1:06:06

Yeah. Because the the the tweet was Cohen's

1:06:08

first ever NFL game my last ever NFL

1:06:10

home game. Yeah. think it was just so subtle

1:06:13

because people don't retire like that. Yeah. I

1:06:15

obviously I I read it. It was like, oh, it's retiring.

1:06:17

But everyone replying, which is, like, just being

1:06:20

done. Yeah. I mean, it was cool way to do

1:06:21

it. Thank you. Were you thinking of other options?

1:06:24

So I had thought for a long because I known for a

1:06:26

long time and I've asked I was to my agent, to my

1:06:28

wife, and I was talking to my family, like, what do you think

1:06:30

is the best way to do it? Because I did

1:06:32

wanna do it with a little time left. I wanna

1:06:34

do with two games left just so that I could say

1:06:36

goodbye or my teammates right way the fans, like, I wanna

1:06:38

be able to say goodbye. But

1:06:41

I'm there was no way in my head that I

1:06:43

was like, every every

1:06:45

way it kinda felt like it was really making it

1:06:47

super about you. And I didn't want it to just

1:06:49

be like, hey, guys, this is it. So I wanted

1:06:51

it to be by my son and my family learn about the

1:06:53

reason that I'm retiring. Yeah. And

1:06:55

I didn't know until that morning that that's how

1:06:57

I was gonna do it, but I got some they sent

1:06:59

us the pictures from the

1:07:00

game. And I had the picture my son and my wife.

1:07:03

And I was like, this is it. It was perfect. I appreciate

1:07:05

it. And the and the video was great that

1:07:07

they showed of everyone from your peer. Now

1:07:09

not to be narcissistic, but I

1:07:11

was, like, half watching it being, like, or me and PFT

1:07:13

can pop up in this video. And I was

1:07:15

wondering why no one asked this. It's

1:07:17

pretty it's pretty crazy how that video came

1:07:19

about, and I am massively

1:07:22

thankful and will forever be grateful

1:07:24

for this video. My d line coach

1:07:26

Matt Burke when I was when I

1:07:28

said I was retiring. So he had two weeks to basically

1:07:30

put together. And he just got on the phone

1:07:32

and called the first person he knew and told,

1:07:34

like, spread the word like wildfire. And

1:07:36

people started firing their videos back. And

1:07:38

I'm so grateful to him because, I mean, I was

1:07:41

walking in that meeting. We had hard knocks. And hard knocks is literally

1:07:43

around twenty four seven. And they were like,

1:07:45

hey, Queen Mike you up for this meeting. And I was like, guys,

1:07:47

you'd mic me up all week. Like, we got cameras everywhere.

1:07:50

I've given two speeches to the team this week. I don't

1:07:52

wanna I don't wanna be miched up. And they're like, well,

1:07:54

we think he's got some special plant. Vance,

1:07:56

our decorate. And I was like, they don't have any

1:07:58

special dude. Like, we got a game tomorrow. Like, they

1:08:00

don't have any special. And then we went

1:08:02

to that meeting and Vance put on the film.

1:08:04

And I was like, I was kinda pissed. I was watching

1:08:06

film. It was my last game. And I

1:08:07

was like, just let me go to bed, man. Like, I wanna go to bed.

1:08:10

And then Bert got up and said the video

1:08:12

and he showed it, dude. And, I mean, I

1:08:14

don't know, like, the emotions that

1:08:16

flowed through me, and I wasn't ready for it. I

1:08:19

wasn't ready to see my whole career

1:08:21

in terms of what it meant to other people.

1:08:23

And in terms of thinking about

1:08:25

myself in fifth grade and where I ended up and

1:08:27

thinking about this is literally

1:08:30

it. I'm never ever in my life gonna play

1:08:32

the game I love.

1:08:33

Unless the steelers

1:08:34

It's a million. It's

1:08:35

a it just it blew my mind and I

1:08:37

the waterworks started and it couldn't stop, but it

1:08:39

was crazy. See,

1:08:39

I'm I'm pissed. We should have been that. What what would you what

1:08:42

would your reaction have been if, like, halfway through? It's

1:08:44

just, oh, hey, Jason.

1:08:45

The whole room would've lost it. The whole room would've

1:08:47

die laughing. Oh, literally, we're making

1:08:49

for ourselves. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

1:08:53

Is

1:08:53

there, like, one week or one game looking

1:08:55

back over your Kareems, when you were truly at

1:08:57

the height of your powers, when you were

1:08:59

the peak JJ Watt. I I've

1:09:01

I've said my favorite three minutes of football

1:09:03

that I've ever played was versus Tennessee

1:09:05

Titans at home in Houston a year where

1:09:08

I got a strip sack. I

1:09:10

picked up the ball, ran it like fifteen yards.

1:09:12

I came off the fields for one play. They

1:09:14

threw a ball down to d hop to the one yard line.

1:09:17

They called me back in. I I went in the back

1:09:19

field, motioned out, and Ryan Fitzpatrick threw me

1:09:21

to touch down the next play. Like a three play

1:09:23

stretch where I did everything I could do on defense,

1:09:25

and then I went out and scored an offense. To me, that

1:09:27

was the coolest moment of my career because I

1:09:29

felt like I was playing backyard ball. That is

1:09:32

pretty At the highest

1:09:32

level.

1:09:33

It sucked that we weren't allowed to use you as

1:09:35

a tied in in fancy football back then.

1:09:37

Yeah. But if my score did it count,

1:09:39

like, on team defense? Or how does that work?

1:09:42

No. No. If they if somebody drafted you as,

1:09:44

like, an individual defensive player, maybe that

1:09:46

would count. But you should have been able

1:09:48

to start JJ Watt is a tight end. Yeah.

1:09:51

Yeah. That's bullshit. So who gets that time the

1:09:53

touch sound, nobody.

1:09:54

Yeah. No one's never happened. Yeah. Never happened.

1:09:56

So the best three you're like -- Yeah.

1:09:57

-- on on a recording. I didn't

1:09:59

have it. So what were the worst three minutes

1:10:01

of football? Oh, and why was it when Brent Thielman

1:10:03

just didn't run John Clay in the rose

1:10:05

bowl. Amen, man. Amen. That

1:10:07

was the like, you're Wisconsin football.

1:10:09

Tank card or the freaking The

1:10:11

dumbest thing ever.

1:10:12

The two point conversion that block. I

1:10:14

was sitting, like, ten rows up from that. It was, like,

1:10:16

just run John Clint.

1:10:17

How good was that just until that moment till we

1:10:19

lost? Yeah. Like, the

1:10:20

rose ball is the cool

1:10:21

The best thing of all The best time. Yeah.

1:10:23

And then losing sucks. Because I talked a lot of shit.

1:10:25

Moving as well.

1:10:27

But but yeah. What was the worst three minutes?

1:10:30

I mean, the worst three minutes is, you know,

1:10:32

take your pick of my injuries. I think my broken leg

1:10:34

was was certainly up

1:10:35

there. That that hurt the question. That hurt

1:10:37

like a motherfucker.

1:10:38

Yeah. What about you were on the field now?

1:10:41

Like Smith broke his legs. Yeah. That sucked. Cool.

1:10:43

And I did not know that I was

1:10:45

the hit and the reason until

1:10:47

years later when they

1:10:48

like, the three the e sixty and they showed the

1:10:50

slow motion and everything. It was you? Yeah.

1:10:53

Wow. Definitely not a better person than people.

1:10:55

Yeah. No. Not read that to him? Not

1:10:57

at all. No. It's terrible. I I felt bad. I

1:10:59

mean immediately after the game, I texted and everything because

1:11:01

the play was crazy because I just

1:11:04

assumed he like, it was a concussion or something because

1:11:06

Coram Jackson actually got the sack, and I

1:11:08

came in and was he was still up, so I came in and

1:11:10

I was coming over the top. And then I ran

1:11:12

off because we were excited and I saw him laying

1:11:14

down. I was like, oh, it's gotta be concussion or something

1:11:16

because he's really down and and we were all

1:11:18

taken knee and then we saw eventually, what

1:11:21

actually happened. And then years later,

1:11:23

somebody told me the story that it's like the exact

1:11:25

same yard line as Joe Theisman. Yeah. It was

1:11:27

like the exact same. And then it was

1:11:29

also me and Lawrence Taylor,

1:11:31

the two three time defense played the

1:11:33

years. Like, there were these crazy synergies that

1:11:35

blew my mind.

1:11:36

Lincoln Kennedy across the thing.

1:11:38

We're,

1:11:38

like, Lincoln's secretary's name, Kennedy's name

1:11:41

Lincoln, but just know that it's not

1:11:43

your fault. It's not your fault. It's that

1:11:44

field.

1:11:45

Yeah. Yeah.

1:11:45

It's a bad field. It's curves. It's not your fault.

1:11:47

Are you are you looking for a new

1:11:50

field? Are you guys is it happening? What's

1:11:51

going on over there? moved to to the side

1:11:53

of old RFK stadium. That's

1:11:55

what I'm looking

1:11:56

at. Yeah. I'm with Lamar. Right? I mean, I know you're

1:11:58

No. Lamar

1:11:59

has been rumored. Many stories rumors. mean

1:12:01

yeah. I've seen a lot of photos. There's a lot

1:12:03

of photos. There's a lot of photoshop that look hard.

1:12:05

It looks good. We aren't you So we we actually

1:12:07

we have a graphics guy, and his main job

1:12:10

is, like, make YouTube thumbnails for us.

1:12:12

And we just started hitting him up with these absurd

1:12:14

photoshop

1:12:14

requests. And they take two out, and they take and they take

1:12:16

two out, and they take two out,

1:12:18

I thought

1:12:19

it was. Stopped sleeping. He sounded

1:12:21

like, hey, Monte Adam is in a bear's uniform. He's like,

1:12:23

alright. I'm not sleeping. He's clocked in about thirty hours

1:12:25

over the last few weeks just making a

1:12:27

message. Totally shut. No. I mean, I'd like

1:12:29

to get I'd like to get off that field. Everybody's been

1:12:31

hurt on that field. And then just, like,

1:12:33

as a guy who's playing to every every

1:12:36

See, my last two games were the last two stadiums I had

1:12:38

to

1:12:38

play. So I played every single stadium. Yeah. Yeah. A

1:12:40

place can use upgrades. We're

1:12:41

we're grass, grass guys. Yeah. Not

1:12:43

sure. Yeah. Yeah. Like that. Yeah. Are you aware

1:12:46

of that? I am

1:12:48

on the if the weather is great, everything

1:12:50

is all the exact same perhaps one thousand

1:12:52

percent. I am also a path supervisor

1:12:54

who needs my footing. So rain, snow,

1:12:57

things like that. I do like turf, but I'm I

1:12:59

will not go against fellow NFL brothers are

1:13:01

very much fighting the fight for

1:13:03

grass. So on

1:13:04

You're thinking about maybe getting into ownership.

1:13:06

Right?

1:13:07

Soccer ownership? I'm big into yes.

1:13:09

Would you be interested maybe about

1:13:12

twenty thousand dollars of a team called Swancy

1:13:14

that someone might be trying to

1:13:16

unload? Because there's

1:13:17

a You have exclusivity. Yeah.

1:13:19

It's just losing money every year. So you want some

1:13:21

of that? I've I've give it to you.

1:13:23

I've literally been looking at

1:13:24

exclusivity. Oh, okay. Great. So yeah. Great. So

1:13:26

you can take my shares. What

1:13:28

what kind of discount are we looking

1:13:29

at? When

1:13:30

did you get into swans? Because I

1:13:31

noticed

1:13:32

you were a swans fan when they were back when they're playing

1:13:34

the championship. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. They stink. And

1:13:36

well, here's the one thing I'll say if you are thinking

1:13:38

about swanzy just actually, that'd be great because

1:13:41

they like, every probably six

1:13:43

months or so, I'll just start getting tweets

1:13:45

that will be like fuck

1:13:46

you, you, American pig. And I'm like, what's this? And then

1:13:49

I'll look --

1:13:49

Yeah. -- it's like a message board, and it will

1:13:51

be like, liver pool has LeBron

1:13:54

and we have this fat bladder. And it's

1:13:56

just

1:13:56

like, oh, okay. I guess this round them up.

1:13:58

That's the that's the one drawback

1:14:00

of minority ownership. I mean, because let's be honest,

1:14:02

I don't have enough money to buy majority of any

1:14:04

team. So you're the face and and

1:14:07

they want you to be a part of it partially because of

1:14:09

that, and you have a little bit of here in there. I have 07I

1:14:11

have 0II have, like, I have point

1:14:13

00001 percent

1:14:15

share. Like, I have zero six. But you get all the shit

1:14:18

when they Correct. Yeah. Right. And now you don't

1:14:20

mind. Oh, okay. get you for free. Twenty.

1:14:22

I

1:14:22

mean, you got the twenty. It's twenty. Nothing

1:14:24

now. But yeah. Even now. Thank you. I still have

1:14:26

to cost you my taxes in November because of

1:14:28

it. Are you interested in a professional

1:14:30

lacrosse league team? Mhmm.

1:14:31

Oh, that's actually be perfect. The dogs have

1:14:33

been

1:14:34

playing. The dogs have been playing. Dogs been playing.

1:14:36

They should go there.

1:14:37

Water dogs.

1:14:38

The j j water dogs. Yeah.

1:14:40

It is good. The current ownership has really trashed

1:14:42

that place, though. Wow. We have a champion shippers

1:14:44

left for the results. And how many shaper gyps if

1:14:46

you want? Zero. Yeah. Maybe some of your owners

1:14:48

should

1:14:48

have, like, belittled you little more.

1:14:50

They they should have maybe maybe I don't

1:14:52

respond to positive yeah. I

1:14:54

don't think that should've just had people shit on me

1:14:57

more. Yeah.

1:14:57

Couple of coaches tried.

1:14:58

Yeah. Are you are you going to go

1:15:01

into the hall famous at Texan?

1:15:03

I this is an honest question. I don't

1:15:05

know how any of that works. Like

1:15:06

I don't I I see the bus fall,

1:15:08

actually. The bus doesn't have You're not

1:15:10

wearing a hat.

1:15:10

No. I think it's just baseball. I think baseball,

1:15:12

they make you choose your hat. Yeah. But I

1:15:14

just wanna trap you into saying, like, I don't know if you

1:15:16

had some bitter to say about the Texans. No. It

1:15:19

was one of my

1:15:19

favorite teammates of all time. It was

1:15:21

one of the best decisions they could have ever made because

1:15:24

immediately, I mean, we've obviously

1:15:26

gone through some struggles there in the last few years,

1:15:28

but immediately every single old player

1:15:30

is on

1:15:30

board, all the fans are on board. Like, you wanna fill that

1:15:32

stadium up again next year? Mico Azercoaches

1:15:35

immediately doing that. Yeah. He's gonna be awesome. So

1:15:37

you you pretended that you weren't gonna make the whole fame.

1:15:39

That was funny. Let's do

1:15:41

the role play we'll do David Baker.

1:15:44

So he knocks on your door.

1:15:46

He's like, JJ, you've made the

1:15:48

whole thing. Are you gonna tell us

1:15:50

what your reaction Mike, let's pretend that this is happening

1:15:52

right

1:15:52

now. This is another question that I'm fascinated

1:15:55

to say, how the hell does that work? Like,

1:15:57

where is the hotel? Where where are these

1:15:58

hotels? I think it's in the circle week. he's

1:16:01

no longer yeah. Let's just say for the argument

1:16:03

that he This is David Baker. Okay. David Baker,

1:16:05

giant guy. Right. He he puts

1:16:07

everybody up in hotel room somehow. They're

1:16:09

all in the same

1:16:10

hotel.

1:16:11

It's super boy. But is he putting up guys

1:16:13

that aren't making it? It's

1:16:14

super boy. Yeah.

1:16:14

Everybody All the fun. That's what I'm saying. Like, if

1:16:16

if

1:16:16

David

1:16:17

Baker is putting up an hotel, I'm not crying

1:16:19

because he I know. I'm in. You're going right

1:16:21

away. You're all the finalists. So then they go in a

1:16:23

backroom, and then they have, like, I don't know, Peter

1:16:25

King orders three dozen

1:16:26

pizzas. Does it pay for eighty of them stands

1:16:28

on tables? Like, here's why I think this guy should make

1:16:31

it

1:16:31

in. Yeah. And then after that After

1:16:33

that, was that Pizza parties are under rated. Yeah. They

1:16:35

they are, man. Yeah. Why are you asking me at a good pizza

1:16:37

party? It's been a little while.

1:16:39

See, again, these are the things that we do for ownership.

1:16:42

But, yeah, they knock on your door after they take the final

1:16:45

vote. And then they tell you you made the whole

1:16:47

thing. Congrats. So there's probably, like, five or six

1:16:49

people that don't get that

1:16:50

knocked. That is crazy. Yeah. Yeah. So what I can

1:16:52

do, you saw Are you gonna cry? Are you gonna

1:16:54

don't even I didn't

1:16:57

think I was gonna cry my last game, so I don't know.

1:16:59

Maybe I will. Did you cry during the game? So

1:17:01

it was I

1:17:02

mean, we got crushed. We lost thirty

1:17:04

seven to forty six. So first You're

1:17:06

crying

1:17:06

on the field while you're while you're rushing the

1:17:09

pass, sir. So the the we

1:17:11

we lost thirty seven to forty whatever, but

1:17:13

I got two Sachs, which I was jacked about obviously

1:17:15

my last game. And with

1:17:17

two minutes left in the game, the forty nine

1:17:19

hours put up graphic that said, like, congrats

1:17:22

on a hall of fame career or whatever. And

1:17:24

the fans literally started chanting my name,

1:17:26

and they took me out

1:17:27

Like, they called the time out and took me out.

1:17:29

Damn. So, like, I was literally, like,

1:17:31

this is fucking crazy. Yeah. Fans

1:17:33

in an opposing stadium are chanting my name,

1:17:36

the opposing team put my face up there,

1:17:38

and this is it. This is my last time I'm gonna walk

1:17:40

off the field. So I

1:17:41

was, yeah, I was crying.

1:17:42

And my son

1:17:42

was in the stands. My wife was in the stands.

1:17:45

It was it was a cool moment. So when you get off

1:17:47

the field and you take off, like, all your pads

1:17:49

and stuff, how quickly did Darren Revel ask to

1:17:51

to

1:17:51

take, like, you know, your Jersey and all

1:17:53

that. Come on. Like, you knew he was behind

1:17:55

you. I didn't. I saw you. So this

1:17:57

is this is part of the interesting part of that.

1:17:59

So I know he got roasted for

1:18:01

that.

1:18:02

Yeah. Right. Right. So he'll literally cut in line

1:18:04

of special needs. So those kids

1:18:07

he did. We saw the You were

1:18:09

you were making a beeline over to the kids, and they were

1:18:11

they were so excited when you

1:18:12

said, oh my god. It's like, you're their heroes.

1:18:15

And then Darren's, like, excuse me, mister Watt.

1:18:18

This is so so so good

1:18:21

because this is the, like, boss this

1:18:23

is the most funny epitome of, like,

1:18:25

what you you only get what you see

1:18:27

and you immediately make your opinions on it. So

1:18:29

those

1:18:29

kids, they had been there. Literally, I don't

1:18:32

it was crazy. They were there for at

1:18:34

least an hour.

1:18:35

That makes it

1:18:35

worse. So I no.

1:18:36

No. So so I had seen them four

1:18:39

times. I had seen them four times and I talked

1:18:41

to them every time and they're it was awesome. They were they

1:18:43

were giving me shit because I'm a cardinal

1:18:45

in there for an hour, so I was trying to get him to come to our

1:18:47

side. But so then that

1:18:49

that was, like, the fourth time I literally had no

1:18:51

because they're in they're not our

1:18:53

buddies. Like, I know you guys hate them and it's

1:18:55

we're we're buddies and

1:18:56

so I'm starting to do this side of things.

1:18:58

If not at all. Yeah. I mean, maybe you're

1:19:00

right. You are So So he had flown

1:19:02

in. I didn't know he was coming.

1:19:04

So he was, like, surprising me in my last

1:19:06

game.

1:19:06

That's the worst surprise. It was. So

1:19:09

So I did not know he was there. I wasn't looking for

1:19:11

him, and then the whole thing that went down, but

1:19:13

I I will say this about him. He

1:19:16

handed me after the game. He handed

1:19:18

me a binder. And in that binder,

1:19:20

the the face of the binder said daddy's

1:19:23

cards and it said four coa. And

1:19:25

inside was every single trading card

1:19:27

from the time I started Wisconsin until my last

1:19:30

game in the

1:19:30

NFL, and it was for my son. He was stalking

1:19:32

you. It was pretty cool. And he got him just

1:19:34

so he basically was like, here's my stalking material.

1:19:36

Did he make it? Like, all the eyes cut out of all

1:19:38

the training clothes. I mean, he made a sweater about

1:19:41

my son when he was born. He's weird.

1:19:42

No. He didn't. Yeah. He did.

1:19:44

Did he really? Yeah. He was like, you gotta quad on

1:19:46

digital rights or something like that. It's like,

1:19:48

fuck it.

1:19:50

Okay. I'll admit, it's very thoughtful

1:19:53

that you That is a nice job. That's a nice job. We'll give

1:19:55

them That's very nice enough. He probably

1:19:57

is gonna be hitting you up to, like he actually,

1:19:59

he probably handed it to you because he was expecting you to

1:20:01

sign every

1:20:01

card. Probably. Yeah. With

1:20:04

authenticated -- Yes. -- your son's to grab some

1:20:06

grass and put it in there. Yeah. My son's signature.

1:20:09

So wait, how how is dad life? How old

1:20:11

is your son now? He's the three months. Okay.

1:20:13

There is the best. It's it's the greatest that I

1:20:16

don't you know, I just

1:20:18

like everybody, before you have a son or before

1:20:20

you have everybody tells you how great it is and

1:20:22

you're like, sure, whatever.

1:20:24

But it is truly the greatest thing of all time

1:20:26

and I can't explain it to people because you don't

1:20:28

understand till you do it. Do you think he had anything

1:20:30

too because, like, I I agree with everything you

1:20:32

said. You know, I cried both

1:20:34

times my my children were

1:20:36

born. Do you think though, like, because your heart

1:20:38

does grow bigger. Do you think your son maybe

1:20:40

had something to do with your heart going after them?

1:20:42

Possibly. What's that? Possibly. Yeah.

1:20:45

So much love. Yeah. Just too much love.

1:20:47

Like, I just can't. But he did.

1:20:49

The cool thing, someday I'll tell him, is

1:20:51

since he was born, I had in my last

1:20:53

ten games since he was

1:20:54

born, I had ten and ten games.

1:20:55

That's insane. Like I

1:20:56

literally turned into, like, a fucking good

1:20:58

football player. Yeah. That's that's what we we bet

1:21:00

on golfers after they have kids for that exact

1:21:02

race. In NFL player. bet on

1:21:04

you. When to get a sack. I think your

1:21:06

first game is you're

1:21:07

having good. Yeah. Because it's like something

1:21:09

about nuclear having good. They're going

1:21:11

out there. They're playing for a

1:21:12

sense, like, purpose bigger than themselves.

1:21:14

Yes. Their

1:21:15

teammates are usually pretty happy for him because he just

1:21:17

had a baby. Yeah. His easiest bet of all time. Oh,

1:21:19

no question. I mean, if you're receiver or something, quarterback

1:21:21

is definitely throwing you on the red zone.

1:21:23

Yeah.

1:21:24

Yes. Are you gonna let your son play

1:21:26

football? If he wants to, absolutely.

1:21:28

I mean, his wife His wife's

1:21:30

an incredible soccer my wife's an incredible soccer

1:21:33

player, so he could follow his mom's footsteps and do that.

1:21:35

But, yeah, if he wants to play football, he's

1:21:37

huge right now. mean, he's really Kids

1:21:39

dragging

1:21:39

it. How soon because you always hear rumors of, like,

1:21:42

a giant baby born in Louisiana, and,

1:21:44

like, Louisiana State immediately offers them scholarship.

1:21:47

Quickly can somebody offer your son a scholarship to

1:21:49

play football? Because honestly, right now, I'm gonna

1:21:51

speak on behalf of James Madison University

1:21:53

-- Yeah. -- on the moderate. I

1:21:55

would like to officially for your

1:21:58

son a giant NILE deal

1:22:00

to go to James

1:22:01

Masson. So he's he's got his first offer.

1:22:03

Thank you. Co's

1:22:03

gonna be, like, fifteen years old on line into

1:22:05

his DM's being like, you wanna make some sick t

1:22:07

shirts. He was constantly. Yeah. Yeah.

1:22:10

No. He's got some of those. He's got some of those

1:22:12

and

1:22:13

we're we're we're gonna look at all options.

1:22:15

No worries. We're gonna take all five visits. No,

1:22:17

he's gonna be a badger.

1:22:18

Has to.

1:22:19

By the way, do you have that I mean, my wife went to

1:22:21

North Carolina and won National Championships in

1:22:23

they're they've been a blast learn about

1:22:25

their program. They're she shits

1:22:27

on me with their stats. Like, their

1:22:30

their women's soccer national championship

1:22:32

streak is one of the incredible

1:22:34

thing. If you go back to like nineteen eighty two,

1:22:36

maybe even a little bit before that and then trace

1:22:38

it all the way through like two thousand six or whatever

1:22:40

it

1:22:40

was, they won something like twenty

1:22:43

five out of twenty seven national champion.

1:22:45

It is unbelievable. It's the best guy sports

1:22:47

dynasty

1:22:47

of all five. I lose every argument ever.

1:22:49

can't even Now we have Luke Fickle.

1:22:51

I know. So So we have future national

1:22:53

championships lined up. We're lined up

1:22:55

for futures.

1:22:57

Twenty five in a row. Yeah. Would you do with the stuff

1:22:59

bad because when you

1:23:00

opened that

1:23:01

gift and you tweeted about it, I looked

1:23:03

at it and everyone's like, what the hell? I was like,

1:23:05

I want that. Dude, how cool is it? Right? Yeah.

1:23:07

And nobody appreciates it. But, like, I badgers.

1:23:09

Yeah. So I I sent my wife a picture

1:23:11

from the facility when I opened it and she the she

1:23:14

sent one message back. Do not bring

1:23:16

that home. So but I was like, I'm

1:23:18

definitely bring it home. So right now, it's sitting in my

1:23:20

garage. I'll take it. Waiting for a home.

1:23:22

I'll take it.

1:23:23

No. It's awesome.

1:23:24

Yeah. I know what fun is I had been looking

1:23:27

I I don't know why I was googling this

1:23:29

like a week earlier. I literally googled

1:23:31

what is a Bradger like as a

1:23:33

pet. No. Not good.

1:23:35

Not good. Probably the worst. Very not good. I

1:23:37

would say, like, a skunk number

1:23:38

one. Yes. Very bad number. Very

1:23:40

bad pet.

1:23:41

Yeah. Did you name

1:23:42

it? Bucky. Yeah. It's

1:23:44

Bucky also? Yeah. No. There's not not still

1:23:47

Every badger? Yeah. Every badger. No. Every badger. Badger

1:23:49

in the world. She never talked to anemologist.

1:23:52

Yeah. Yeah. Every every

1:23:54

every Badger's name, Bob. It's, like, every Dawler's

1:23:57

named Jeves. Yeah. Right. Every Badger's name

1:23:59

Bob. You Badger's name Bob. Okay. Got it.

1:24:01

That's his name. He'll come he'll come run into

1:24:03

you. So now for the

1:24:05

hard questions -- Okay. --

1:24:06

how pumped are you to try smoking weed for

1:24:08

the first

1:24:09

Pretty excited. Pretty excited. Looking

1:24:11

forward to it. I've

1:24:12

got a lot

1:24:12

of teammates who are looking forward to that day as well.

1:24:14

Yeah. Throughout my -- Oh. -- throughout

1:24:16

my old career. Throughout my whole

1:24:18

career. You never smoked weed?

1:24:20

No. Shut up. No. So Like, even.

1:24:22

Yeah. So throughout throughout my whole career, I always told

1:24:24

guys, like, yeah. After my career, someday I'll do it

1:24:26

someday I'll do it. And every guy

1:24:28

is, like, whenever that day is, I will fly

1:24:30

there. I will be there. We're doing it together.

1:24:32

Yeah. So I gotta

1:24:33

gotta, like, throw, like, a massive party or something. This

1:24:35

is

1:24:35

gonna be great too because we're gonna be the guy who smokes

1:24:37

weed for the first I'm being like, I think I have a heart attack.

1:24:39

And we

1:24:39

won't know it. We won't have a heart

1:24:41

attack. Yeah. Oh, shit. You're

1:24:43

gonna get you're gonna so You think you have a heart

1:24:45

attack. That's how it feels. Some people

1:24:47

will be like, no. That's

1:24:49

not. Are you guys high right now?

1:24:51

Yes. Alright. Always constant. Oh,

1:24:54

Yeah. We should you should livestream that. I know

1:24:56

you probably

1:24:56

Oh, yeah. That's probably not gonna be good for

1:24:58

any future

1:24:59

business whatsoever. I mean, when you decide

1:25:01

to run the president eventually, they're just

1:25:03

gonna have that on you. Only legal. Legal.

1:25:05

Yeah.

1:25:05

Are

1:25:05

you running for president? I am not. Okay.

1:25:08

Yeah. Maybe an exploratory committee. don't know.

1:25:10

Has

1:25:11

Larry Fitzgerald hasn't been, like, here's how you run

1:25:13

for office. Because I'm I'm sure that dude's gonna be a senator's

1:25:15

house.

1:25:16

Has to be. He absolutely runs this

1:25:18

place deservedly so.

1:25:19

Yeah. But no it's no for politics

1:25:21

for you right now. Correct.

1:25:23

Well, he's only thirteen percent. It's a no win.

1:25:25

Yeah. I mean, it's a no win.

1:25:26

unless you win. Yeah. Then

1:25:28

Yeah. But then you still lose.

1:25:29

It's not

1:25:29

fun. It's true. Who the hell wants that job? Yeah.

1:25:31

Okay. So that's that's why I think you should have

1:25:33

it because I think anybody that wants to be president

1:25:36

wants to be a

1:25:36

politician, that should automatically disqualify

1:25:39

you. That's that's a good.

1:25:40

Yeah. Alright. So since we're doing hard questions,

1:25:43

Let's pretend that you we do

1:25:45

get invited to go, we're not gonna speak a

1:25:47

can, but we're gonna just be part of the

1:25:49

what like entourage. Yeah.

1:25:52

Who's the niciest to us in your family?

1:25:54

Is there any still residual anger

1:25:56

about the AJJJ period of pardon

1:25:59

my take?

1:26:00

Legitimate probably would probably

1:26:03

be my grandma. Yeah. Yeah. It's probably

1:26:05

my grandma just because she is the one who

1:26:07

was

1:26:07

like, what are these people

1:26:08

doing? Why are these why are all these people

1:26:10

saying these things to you? Because

1:26:12

everybody else is kinda moving fast. I mean, it is wild.

1:26:15

Like, and and I've told you guys multiple times. Like,

1:26:17

it it called me out on some shit that I probably need

1:26:19

to be called out on, and it kinda changed my

1:26:21

the way that I attack some things. And maybe

1:26:24

I let it get to meet too much

1:26:26

at

1:26:26

times, I'm sure, but it I

1:26:28

mean, I like it. It's a success story

1:26:30

because I do think and we were probably

1:26:32

very mean. Hank's thinks we should

1:26:35

have never let

1:26:35

up. Oh, that's his biggest critique.

1:26:37

Yeah. He thinks that he also claims, like, three

1:26:39

Super Bowl trophies that he had personally.

1:26:42

Yeah. Personally.

1:26:43

Yeah. He he but he doesn't

1:26:45

understand, like, I remember you

1:26:47

did you did kinda change,

1:26:49

like, you weren't Yeah. There was a moment

1:26:51

where it was maybe, like, oh, there's a little it was

1:26:53

the it was the hard knocks, the

1:26:54

Yeah. Oh, yeah. The good ass dude speech, all that.

1:26:56

Yeah. Right. And then turn that moment on, like,

1:26:59

you changed it. It's like, whenever someone

1:27:01

says, like, what's

1:27:01

like, dude, he's a really nice guy. He's well intentioned.

1:27:04

It's not like a bad thing. He just you know?

1:27:06

Yeah. I was trying too hard. I was just trying

1:27:08

too hard. And I I thought that's what that's

1:27:10

what I was supposed to do on the rise. Like,

1:27:12

when you as you get more notoriety, as I'd

1:27:14

never done it before. I didn't know. I was just

1:27:16

trying to be the

1:27:17

person, like, the fucking Captain America

1:27:19