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This is the Patriots Training Camp
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Cast. The
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Patriots Training Camp Cast is your source
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for all the news from Patriots training camp.
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Well, I do still watch the news.
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Practice is over. But the writers of Patriots
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dot com have you covered well? I miss yesterday
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now here to review today's practice. The
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writers of Patriots dot.
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Com today, that would
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be Evan Wlizar and Paul Perillo. No, Mike do
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so a rare absence for
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Mike in these training camp casts. It's
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a it's family days family. His boys
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are here, Tyson Campbell is here, so correct,
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all of them, Tyson Campbell, Tyson
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Campbell.
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The Jaguars.
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So. But I will say Mike
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took in day twelve of training
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camp before he he relieved himself
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of his duties. Full pads
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once again. We sort of talked
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about that a little bit on the normal PU
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program, a little bit of a shorter maybe
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a half hour less, a lot of preppara work,
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I would say for Thursday night. What really
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stood out to me, Evan was, you know
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the first team period, it's Bailey Zappy, So my
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guess is you're gonna see ZAPPI to
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start. Then you saw a lot of Trace MC slowly in Malie
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Cunningham wouldn't be surprised to see
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a good, good chunk of all three of those Thursday night.
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Yeah, there was definitely a clear line
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of Mac and some of the other
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top receivers that he's been throwing to regularly
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in these practices were going
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through drills either on a separate
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field or just behind the
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guys that are going to be playing on Thursday night,
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and there was definitely a feel of Bailey
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Zappi's gonna start on
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Thursday night for the Patriots, and you'll see
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some of the exciting younger receivers.
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I'm sure you know, Pop Douglas and Kashan
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Boody will probably be his primary
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receiver. So you're not it's not like you're
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gonna see You're not gonna see anybody on Thursday
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Night that might make the team or have some value
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on the team. But it's gonna be this
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the clear cut veteran starter group. It
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looks like they're all gonna sit out. And actually, after
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practice, Dietrich Wise basically
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spilled the beans. Instead of yeah, he said he's
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not going to play. And if he's not playing, then
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that the domino effect. Yeah.
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Yeah, Now, one guy semi
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regular guy I would say, is Taekwon Thohnton. I
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think you could get some of him too.
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I think at least for the first couple of drives.
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I don't know how long Zapi's going to play, but
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I would think that as long as Zappi is out
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there that we will see Taekwon with
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him. And I think the interesting thing with Taekwon
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is he's I
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don't want to be too strong, but I
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can't really think of another word besides demoted
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honestly to a secondary
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group of receivers and not with those frontline
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guys. But he is popping
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in those reps that he's getting now. I
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would like to see him against a Christian
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Gonzales for example, or some
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of the leading guys on the defensive side of the
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ball at the cornerback position. But I
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have noticed that his speed and his
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ability to create separation with that
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speed has given no
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pun intended the emre speeds and Isaiah
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Boldens of the world some problems.
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So it wouldn't surprise me if if
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Taekwan sees some run on Thursday night. It wouldn't
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surprise me if he makes some plays on Thursday
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night.
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Yeah, well, no question he should get
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an opportunity. He's gonna be playing against some
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guys that probably are fighting for roster
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spots and whatnot. Some
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bookkeeping. Trey Flowers did you
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know, officially sign with the team. We
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did not see him out at practice. I know
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in the media relations department was efforting to try
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to get him to come out and speak. I hadn't
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seen him, Evan and I did not stay till
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the very end of the media availability.
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It was a rap. Okay, so unless
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it surprises, Yeah, so we'll see. I mean, obviously
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he's not going to be involved on Thursday night,
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but he is in the fold. Still no
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time Montgomery, still no cold.
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Strange, you know, Matthew
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Slater was back in uniform. But one interesting guy
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I thought from a health related standpoint
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was Trent Brown did take some scout
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team reps toward the end of practice
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with Mac Jones at quarterback running
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this Mac Jones seemed to have a great time running
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the scout team too, maybe a little too much fun.
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Maybe a little too much fun. I agree. It
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looked like Trent was pretty rusty. He had
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some problems with I think Sam Roberts
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on a couple of plays. He was
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you know, just out there. So I would say that
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that's a progression from what we've seen
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since pads came on, you
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know, So another thing to keep in mind.
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Yeah, yesterday he was a part of the walkthrough at
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the very beginning of practice. Today
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he did the walk through again and then took some
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i would say three quarter speed live reps
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at left tackle that you just
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mentioned. So definitely a ramp up in participation
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for him. And we also saw Matthew
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Judon take his first one on one rep today
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and O line D line one on ones
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and then also get a little bit of team run
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as well. So I think both those guys are starting
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to dial it up a little bit. And
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this was my not the
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too my own horn, but this was my prediction a little
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bit that once we get to Green Bay and
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we get to the joint practices, as long as
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Brown is healthy, I think that him
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and Judhon will participate in Green Bay.
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I think we'll see them in both joint practice
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sessions and that might be it, but I think we
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will see them, yes.
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And one other thing I'll add before we put
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a rap on this, both Marcus Jones
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and to Mario Douglas spoke after practice.
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Interesting to hear them talk about one another. They've
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gone against each other a lot, and some of the
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one on ones makes a lot of sense. They're
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both smaller guys that rely more
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on speed and quickness. Interesting
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to hear how each of those guys talked about
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the other and helping them sort
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of develop. And Marcus Jones
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in particular, I thought was complimentary of
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Douglas's ability to get in and out
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of breaks, stop and start. Yeah,
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you know, it doesn't really slow down, which
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is probably a little bit rare for a rookie.
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Yeah. Look, his route running is fantastic.
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It really does stand out. The quickness. They're
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no wasted movement and out of the break, which is
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really big for all receivers. But I
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think a lot of these speed guy sometimes,
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I believe it or not, the hardest part is
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decelerating and stopping yourself and being
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able to then change directions, and his
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ability to do that definitely stands out. I
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think the one thing with him and not to you
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know, rain on the parade.
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You know, I'm a pop Douglas guy. I'm excited about
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you, induce, but just smack me around
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every day. Let's just wait until
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we see it in some live eleven
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on eleven or preseason work. Because
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it's great that he's a one on one darling.
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It's great that he's great in seven on seven,
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but that's not real football. And one on one.
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I think this is a little bit of a gripe
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that I have that I can't just let
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go for some reason. But one
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on ones for wide receivers and corners is not
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real football. No, it's not real football.
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There's no help in the middle of the field, there's no
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pass rush. These are just covering
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guys on an island. And if somebody like
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the Mario Douglas, who does have insane
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quickness and good speed, if
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he's not separating in one on ones and he's
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not an NFL player like period, but
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that doesn't make him a superstar
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just because he's going out there and beating people
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in one on one. So I'm really interested to see him
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on Thursday night because I want to see. Okay,
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we see the traits, we see the skill,
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and we see the burst, but is
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that really going to translate
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once we get between the lines on Thursday night?
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So you guys can continue to listen to Mike and Paul
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about Tomorrio Douglas. If you want to stay excited,
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if you want to get rained on the parade. I
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am excited, but.
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I'm just being honest, like this is such
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a training camp player
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for me right now, where it's difficult
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to tell of whether or not this is just a
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guy that in training camp
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practices where contact isn't quite
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as as full tilt as a real game,
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is just going to be a star because he's so fast,
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or if this is truly a player that can go out
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there and do it on Sundays and we'll
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have to wait and see on that.
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All right, So that's going to put a rap on not
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only Day twelve, but our training
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camp casts because as of
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now there will be no more open training
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camp practices. I think that could
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change in terms of the media. Maybe on Sunday
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Monday ish and we'll
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I'm not sure if we'll have training camp casts
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for those days. But it's
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been a quick couple of weeks and I think
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you know, they got a decent amount
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of work done. You could see the progression
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I think that you're looking for that we didn't see last year.
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Offensively, it started in a similar spot,
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but I think it got better most
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days, whereas last year it just stayed
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the same. So I think if you're looking for reasons
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for optimism offensively, that would
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be it. You're seeing the progression.
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Yeah, I definitely said the progression. I would think
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mainly in the red zone. Like remember the first couple
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of days in the red zone was ugly for the offense.
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Sorry, those hard play action with the little swing
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to the back is given the defense fits.
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Yeah, all summer.
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Yeah, now all of a sudden, they're starting to make some more plays.
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MIKEASICKI had maybe the catch of training can.
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I'm glad you brought that up. Tremendous one handed catch.
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One handed catch tax to test. I think there
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are three defenders in the air and it wasn't official
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there to give them the touchdown. Yeah, it was. It was a
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touchdown. And he's come on a little bit last
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couple of days as well. So I think
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that's the biggest part that you know, people ask me
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what's the biggest difference between the offense this year
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and the offense last year? And I just think
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that this year the details look
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like they're they're being ironed out. It looks
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like the timing and the rhythm and then
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also obviously the scheme is doing
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what it's supposed to be doing at most
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of the time. Now, I think they've looked good,
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you know, the skeleton, the seven on seven looks
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good. Let's see what the offensive line play
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looks like and how it all comes together from there.
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But in terms of the timing, the
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ability to get open from the receivers within
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the structure of the scheme, quarterbacks
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receivers night and day compared to last
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year.
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All right, So that's Sevan Wizar and Paul Parolo
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that's going to put a rap on Day twelve here
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in Foxborough.
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