0:01

Some of the content of Patriots Unfiltered

0:04

may not be suitable for all audiences. Listener

0:06

discretion is advised.

0:09

The World's.

0:11

Podcam.

0:15

Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered.

0:19

Let's just say, disaster strikes and

0:21

this negatively impacts Drake

0:24

May and you stuck without a quarterback.

0:27

So make May is playing but he's

0:29

not playing.

0:29

Well, oh, well, they didn't do anything to support them.

0:31

They failed them, you know, they ruined them. And that's

0:34

the that's the narrative to say

0:36

this time in two years. We're not allowed to say.

0:38

That by drafting Joe Milton.

0:39

We're not allowed to say. Yeah, we're not allowed to say it.

0:41

Thought, well, I think that would be incorrect.

0:44

But you didn't see it. No,

0:46

but if it's a hypothetic, were there more reasons

0:48

mac Jones was a bust other than they hired Matt

0:50

Patricia for the offensive coordinator. Yeah, but you're

0:52

not allowed to say that.

0:53

That's a lot different than drafting Joe.

0:56

I don't hear you say.

0:57

It's not even apples to apples.

0:59

So don't don't ever saying.

1:00

Allowed to say whatever you want, and everyone's

1:03

allowed to.

1:03

If I do that, I'm just being a baby. Check it

1:05

at the door next time. Okay, I'll be all on board.

1:08

Baby when you start saying, well, I can't

1:10

say what I when you act like a baby, baby,

1:13

It's.

1:13

Gonna be fun to just get out there. See what they look like, see what

1:15

they move like. And I'm just excited to see

1:17

what Joe Milton most like.

1:21

This is Patriot's Unfiltered,

1:23

presented by Toyota's official website.

1:25

For deals, buy a Toyota dot com.

1:29

All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

1:31

It is Thursday here at you Let's

1:34

Stadium. It's Deuce, it's

1:36

Alex, it's Paul, it's

1:38

Fred Evan.

1:39

U doing interviews with on WHENU

1:42

and uh Bentley okayah.

1:46

Help me buying a little bit. He's gonna listen to those guys.

1:48

And ask Michael and whine about his bike

1:50

riding through the locker room.

1:52

Yeah that was wild.

1:53

I'm just like and who filmed that?

1:56

Kendrick Bourne, I think, Yeah, it seems like Kendrick

1:58

Born.

1:59

So that's new.

2:00

Yeah, those basketball the shot.

2:02

You wouldn't have been able to do that a year ago.

2:04

Riding your bike, go ride your bike outside.

2:06

Or having your phone out. You got to get

2:10

Yeah, forget about the bike just filming

2:12

social media content?

2:13

Are those rules just for in season?

2:15

Maybe I thought when you come here, you

2:18

come here to work.

2:19

That's what I've thought. Yeah, tonight,

2:21

good job.

2:23

I don't know if the basketball hoop is brand new or

2:25

if it was just replaced. I think they've had basketball

2:28

hoops in the past, but they get broken.

2:29

They definitely connect four okay,

2:32

right, don't

2:34

know.

2:35

I mean, you guys have been in the locker room way more

2:37

than I have lately. I don't

2:39

know that they've had basketball hoops

2:41

in the locker.

2:42

I've never seen.

2:42

I haven't seen that. Well.

2:43

We talked about it for static camp, and I

2:45

think Richie, one of the guys that works

2:47

in football, was telling us that when they do have

2:49

them, they.

2:50

Just they break them because they take the

2:52

games to series.

2:53

Set up a hoop, me too,

2:56

I want to set up a hoop right here in the TV compound.

2:58

Okay, So like when there's no trucks,

3:01

we could just go down and shoot around.

3:02

That'd be fun, would be good.

3:03

The ceiling is certainly high enough.

3:05

Yeah, work on my my shot. Evan.

3:07

We can put Evan in his place because I

3:09

think you know, he's flexing telling us all about what

3:12

a dynamic c yo basketball

3:14

player.

3:15

Actually he's not. He didn't play

3:20

whatever his youth basketball league was

3:22

J C.

3:23

C Okay, Well, I told.

3:25

Him he can pick anyone against me. And Genesia.

3:27

Oh well, Genisia, that girl, she

3:30

she can play.

3:31

Guys are both legit basketball

3:33

players.

3:33

I've never seen her play, but I think she would

3:36

be.

3:37

I think so too. I talked to it.

3:38

Well, know, she coaches, coaches,

3:41

she coaches boys.

3:42

She said, she's that's her. That's yeah.

3:44

She played basket.

3:46

Yeah, we've talked a little bit. She played AAU.

3:48

I love talking to her about she first

3:50

year coaching.

3:51

She so.

3:51

I love hearing her go through the coaching experience.

3:54

And you know, it's very wholesome.

3:55

There's always a pain in the information.

3:57

I don't get doun in my dungeon. I

3:59

was aware of that. Lot told

4:02

to go back.

4:03

Down, get you.

4:06

I had a call.

4:08

I have a call anyway.

4:10

People listening don't know who these people are.

4:12

But dey knew who Devin mccordy is.

4:15

Anyway, So you

4:17

got a new kicker.

4:18

Yeah, Sly Joey

4:21

slye veteran, little veteran.

4:23

Yeah, any good guy. He

4:25

was Washington's can't be that.

4:26

Last, yeah they Yeah,

4:29

the Jacks just I guess the Jags must have drafted

4:31

somebody and don't care for competition. But wow,

4:37

but I mean joking aside,

4:39

like and I don't want to get back into the Joe Milton at

4:41

all, but I mean it does.

4:43

Seem like this regime is you

4:45

have.

4:46

No threat of that that.

4:49

I do think that this regime has carried some

4:51

of that over from Bill, which is competition,

4:54

competition, competition, and bring making sure

4:56

that that nobody feels too comfortable.

4:58

Maybe, and I think that that's certainly

5:00

the case at a number of positions on the offensive

5:02

side of the ball, is they try to, you know, find

5:04

a new offensive line from from all these.

5:06

I mean, believe it or not, most coaches or that like

5:08

that.

5:09

Yeah.

5:09

I mean Pete Carroll, believe it or not, was

5:11

like that. He always, you know, fancied

5:14

himself at having a very competitive

5:17

practice in training camp, and you

5:19

know most coaches want competition.

5:22

Yeah, I mean, I don't know, it's just sometimes

5:24

you think, guys,

5:25

I've.

5:27

Actually heard that.

5:27

Yeah, but you know sometimes

5:29

you just like think about like some player

5:32

like well he should just have the job. He doesn't

5:34

need like this guy breathing down his neck

5:36

right.

5:38

Year, there wouldn't be another kick.

5:40

And that's specific to Ryland.

5:41

I agree.

5:43

I agree with you in the respect to Ryland. That wasn't

5:45

the point. I was trying to go ahead, go to your

5:47

little pole.

5:48

Yes, this is.

5:51

But sometimes other position groups, you know, it's just kind

5:53

of like, really, do you really you need another body there?

5:55

But you know how it works.

5:56

Sometimes these guys people get hurt and uh,

5:58

you know, you can always use those guys

6:00

that have been in the building since the spring.

6:04

So that happened, and then today

6:07

just probably right now, the

6:09

remaining Tom Brady Day tickets

6:12

are up for sale on ticket Master June

6:15

twelfth.

6:15

Go get them. Go get them people.

6:17

Yeah, what they're going for it's

6:19

a hundred bucks.

6:21

Yeah, go

6:23

get them. I was just as a Patriots

6:25

fan, Well, there's not many left I

6:28

go right now because they've been up there for about

6:30

six minutes. But I just say, as a Patriots

6:32

fan, this is it's worth it. It's

6:34

worth it to be there if you're a Tom Brady fan and

6:37

you want to see him honored the way he should

6:39

be honored, with all kinds of surprises

6:41

and all kinds of fun and

6:43

not you know, and some people are like, oh, it's probably

6:46

the same old cast of characters that you're gonna wrote.

6:48

No, it's different, and

6:50

there's just a lot of really cool stuff. And I think if you're

6:52

a Tom Brady fan and you miss this, you're

6:54

gonna be kicking yourself in the butt because it's

6:56

it's gonna be awesome.

6:58

Yeah, it'll be something that goes down in

7:01

Patriots history. Yes, the

7:03

same way Larry Bird and I did for the Celtics.

7:05

Yeah, it was well done, and I

7:07

remember that like it was yesterday.

7:09

I thought it was kind of you know, he's getting roasted this weekend too.

7:12

Yeah, that'll be interesting, Yeah, which which

7:14

was you know. But I feel like it's a good

7:16

complimentary thing because you're gonna have everybody

7:18

come out kind of tease them a little bit this weekend

7:21

his wounds Brady, and then it's

7:23

you're gonna have some of the same people coming back and

7:26

you know, kind of glowing about him and you know nice.

7:28

So I think it's gonna be hopefully complimentary

7:30

and you know, not intrusive to either

7:32

thing. So complimentary With an E and

7:35

an I I think you corrected me on

7:37

that a couple of times, spread on things I've written, but I think I've.

7:39

Got it down now so that the difference between the e and

7:41

the eye.

7:42

But you know, there's a lot of complimentary weapons, complimentary

7:44

pieces.

7:44

To the offense cross I did.

7:46

I did, but I didn't know the actual name of

7:48

the library till about you.

7:49

They compliment each other and when they do well,

7:51

we will compliment them with an eye.

7:53

There you go.

7:55

Right, It's like.

7:56

The the brown horse jumped over what's that saying?

7:58

That?

7:58

Like?

7:59

It gets every letter in you know I'm talking.

8:00

About now jump over

8:02

the fence or something?

8:03

Yeah? Yeah, okay,

8:05

sorry, all right?

8:07

What else? So we got Brady tickets, we got

8:09

a new kicker.

8:10

A new kicker.

8:11

We're I mean, we're supposedly going to see

8:13

the rookies next weekend, right.

8:14

Did we mention that they released Connor McDermott

8:16

last.

8:17

Show after the show?

8:19

Yeah, yeah, it's got rid

8:21

of him.

8:22

So that gets him down to eight eight tackles.

8:25

I maybe do air quotes on the tackles because

8:27

some of them have you know, Michael, when you

8:29

I guess as a.

8:30

Tackle, but I don't know.

8:31

I continue to want wish them when you would go back

8:33

inside.

8:34

I just think that that's the best place. And well,

8:36

I love if they could find two tackles.

8:38

Well that's the thing. If he goes back

8:40

inside, it means that they have somebody

8:42

outside, so that now you've

8:44

increased the depth you've you know, So

8:47

that's that's why I would want

8:49

it to go inside, is because wow, they've got a you

8:51

know, a real tackle out there. Not that no,

8:53

no, no disrespect to Mike and when

8:55

you he could be just as good, but you want

8:58

as deep in solid line

9:00

as you can possibly get. And you

9:02

know, I think when you spent most of his time

9:04

at guard, that's his more natural

9:06

position, you know.

9:08

Yeah, I mean, and I think that the upside

9:11

of that would be to have and

9:14

I know that it's not ideal because you have two guys

9:16

that have played almost predominantly right tackle with

9:19

Chukes or Corps four in Cayden

9:21

Wallace, they've been right tackles.

9:23

But you could have Wallace as a rookie,

9:26

which is very common even with left tackles

9:28

in college, to play right tackle when

9:30

they first come into the league. Even I think Jonathan

9:32

Ogden did that, but if

9:35

it wasn't him, even guys of that stature

9:38

sometimes play as a rookie on the right side

9:40

before getting entrenched on the left.

9:42

And if a Corps four could play left,

9:45

now you have a when you freed up to solidify

9:47

the inside with David

9:50

Andrews and not, all you have to worry about is one spot.

9:52

So that I think would

9:54

be ideal, but I'm not sure if

9:56

it's plausible.

9:57

No, I mean this is this is probably

10:00

believe along the lines of still believing

10:02

in Christmas. It's like Calvin Anderson, and I mean

10:04

he has started a bunch of games at left tackle in the

10:06

league. I mean, I don't I don't really want to

10:08

hang all my hopes on him, but I

10:11

do think when you look at the actual depth chart, he's

10:13

the only player who's played significant amount of

10:15

time in the NFL at left tackle.

10:16

The only one that has any experience.

10:18

So maybe he's a little bit of a wild card.

10:20

But I did speak to you know, Paul's writing

10:22

that the profile on Wallace.

10:24

But I did speak with Eric Aalco from the Shrine Bowl yesterday,

10:26

who Wallace was at, and you know, he said

10:28

the feeling around the league was that he would be the

10:32

top swing tackle drafted, like he's

10:34

he that that's what they kind of saw him as.

10:36

As you know, he could play both sides.

10:38

We've talked, you know about how Olufashanu

10:41

kind of had locked things down on the left side, so we never

10:43

really had the chance to play left tackle. But there

10:46

is I think some feeling

10:48

in the league that that it's a potential move he could make.

10:51

So we'll see. I mean, there's no guarantee.

10:53

The other news that came out at the end

10:56

of the beginning of the week was of

10:58

course Barmar's deal, and since then,

11:00

his agent released a little

11:02

video of him here at Gillette

11:05

signing and all that. And what

11:07

do you think of that that video?

11:10

That's a good question. I don't really, I.

11:12

Mean, anyone can answer, and I'm not interviewing

11:14

Deuce.

11:14

I didn't see it.

11:15

Oh you didn't see it there?

11:16

No, yeah, I'm posting. I didn't see the actual

11:18

video though.

11:19

No, it was yeah, it was.

11:20

It was him walking in and

11:22

you know it was kind of like, here's the look of a ninety

11:24

million.

11:25

Dollar man, or this is what mill That's

11:27

what she said his agent.

11:32

I don't know.

11:32

That's a good question, fred I.

11:33

I I'm a little torn on Okay.

11:36

Think about it this way. Forget about if your deuce.

11:38

If you're Christian Barmore, are you

11:40

like, oh, you're feeling okay with that with my

11:42

agent posting that, I

11:44

think so?

11:45

Yeah, I think so.

11:46

I mean, I I just think it was a big

11:48

moment for them, for them both, and I

11:50

don't know, I didn't I didn't recoil from it. And wow,

11:52

this is awkward and this feels weird. But

11:55

I guess my hesitation at the same time is just

11:57

like you're kind of like strutting your stuff

11:59

now, and it is a little bit a little

12:01

bit weird to put that out, but at the same time,

12:03

I guess it's just so different.

12:05

Yeah.

12:06

Yeah, he's

12:08

worked so hard and you know, obviously it's a huge

12:10

deal for his agent to put that together, so

12:12

you know, congrats to her. But yeah,

12:15

I don't know, it's it's I'm happy for Barmore,

12:18

and it's it's it goes back to what we talked about

12:20

it just as a fan being able to know which

12:22

players you can get behind, and I think that's one of

12:24

the things that fans haven't had the last couple of

12:26

years. You don't really like right now, I feel

12:29

pretty good about Like, I think we're going to keep

12:31

Christian Gonzalez for a long time, like you know, like

12:33

and previously I might

12:35

have been like, well he's he's here for four years, maybe

12:37

five, and and then you know, most likely he's probably

12:39

gone. So I just from a fan headspace,

12:42

it's it's nice to feel like you're

12:44

going to be the people that

12:46

you the players that you invest in and start to get

12:48

attached to that that you can form those long term

12:50

bonds because you haven't had that in a while.

12:52

Speaking of Gonzales, who was court side at the Celtics

12:54

game, Yeah.

12:56

It's got a lot of FaceTime behind

12:58

spo all night too.

12:59

Yeah, it looks good.

13:01

I mean, I'm I'm just excited to see him

13:03

back. I mean, it was always just so fun to watch him him

13:05

move out on the field.

13:06

But like I was saying.

13:07

Earlier though, I mean, we're supposed to get a look at these rookies next

13:09

Saturday.

13:10

That's yeah. So now so the next

13:12

thing here is rookie mini camp. What's

13:14

the dates on that?

13:15

Yeah, the act, Well, our our access day is

13:17

supposed to be Saturday.

13:20

Yeah, I think they are. They're they're out there the first

13:22

day.

13:23

But yeah, I'm just curious

13:25

what that what that looks like, what they're gonna do. I

13:27

hope that they kind of protect the players a little bit and

13:29

and don't have them doing anything too uh

13:32

you know, competitive or anything that people could read

13:34

into. But just cool

13:36

to get to see these guys play.

13:38

Sounds like Jalen Polk's gonna take number one too.

13:40

So things are a lot a lot different

13:42

now with how how the access are getting with.

13:44

These rookies, So that'll we'll

13:46

be having content throughout. I

13:48

think media has one day of access, but

13:50

I will have some extra access.

13:52

Yeah, some pictures, yeah, and stuff like that as

13:54

a as they drink from the

13:56

fire hose, right yeah, nice,

13:58

Yeah, the rookies and Shopper's Iron,

14:01

we're.

14:01

Getting them all in today.

14:03

What else before we open it up to listeners?

14:06

Anything?

14:07

What else?

14:08

No, I mean, I I think we're just uh,

14:11

I mean you see there there. I think the roster is full

14:13

now with the linebacker that they signed, So for

14:15

the moment, it seems like everything's kind of in place.

14:17

I know, we talked about Stefan.

14:18

Gilmore maybe another veteran edition, which

14:21

I would be on board with another outside

14:23

guy, right, Yeah, the little experience,

14:25

good size.

14:26

The first it's like Zamdes. But what

14:29

is the first name?

14:29

Yeah, Archimedes.

14:32

Shoot, I didn't, Uh, I didn't reprint my own

14:34

I didn't.

14:36

Your color coded death shot lasted

14:38

one show? Did

14:41

me and Fred areguing so much? Upset

14:43

you what you couldn't.

14:44

I didn't even print a new one. I was just so enamored

14:46

with the color on it.

14:47

He was rattled.

14:49

We rattled him, Freddy. Yeah, he's

14:51

done.

14:52

Sorry, Okay, I'm just looking to see if

14:54

there's any updates on the Brady. Maybe

14:57

it's already sold out. Oh man, I haven't

14:59

heard anything yet. That'd be crazy.

15:02

Yeah, So if people are

15:04

trying or have bought since noon,

15:07

let us know, or if you

15:09

just got on there and got denied, let

15:11

us know. Yeah, we'd love to get an update

15:13

on what that's like. But I do

15:15

know they're they're getting close.

15:17

Selling it out.

15:18

Yeah, I mean because they got to cut

15:20

some of the stadium. I mean yeah, it's Yeah.

15:21

I think I think capacity

15:24

for this event, because you know, you get the stage and blocking

15:27

the south end zone, I think it's like fifty

15:29

six thousand or something like that.

15:31

Little less than like a concert.

15:33

Yeah, more Brady.

15:34

Yeah, yep,

15:37

So

15:39

that'll be great. It's gonna I can't wait for that.

15:41

It will.

15:42

It's like I kind of feel like you got all the draft guys

15:44

and now you're like, all right, and now I want to see them. You know, you

15:46

waited all these like two months to just finally get to this point

15:48

where you know who the Patriots drafted, and

15:50

now you're quickly turning the page too.

15:52

All right, let's get on the field.

15:53

So I'm gonna be a little selfish here. And

15:56

at the end of the show on Tuesday, Mike had

15:59

mentioned that he and

16:01

I were going to be doing something with Josh mc We

16:03

kind of teased it. It was Josh McDaniels.

16:06

I didn't know if you guys wanted to bring that out.

16:08

Well, and now that we did it, I

16:10

think that we should, absolutely And

16:13

it was an

16:15

absolute home run how well

16:17

it went. And basically what Mike and I did

16:19

was we got together and

16:22

came up with what we thought were the twelve

16:24

best game

16:27

winning drives for Tom Brady,

16:30

you know, as part of the Brady festivities and

16:32

content that we'll be putting out leaning

16:35

into the night. You know, it's not going to be probably

16:37

something that we'll see during the ceremony on

16:39

the twelfth, but heading into that week,

16:43

and Josh sat down with Mike and I

16:45

yesterday and it was incredible,

16:47

like just the amount of memories

16:50

and detail that come

16:53

back with it, And it was Josh like

16:55

he would be doing if it was breaking down the film

16:58

that week, if the game had happened in that week, And

17:00

he's showing Mike and I all these different things

17:02

that probably get overlooked

17:04

by a lot of people, you know, including us

17:07

at the time, and I think it's

17:09

something to keep an eye on. We'll be promoting it. We'll let

17:11

you know. We're not exactly

17:14

sure how we're going to unveil it and

17:17

present it, but it's

17:19

something that you guys, especially people

17:21

on this show, because I know the people on this show

17:23

are the the inside football guys.

17:25

They're the diehards that want any

17:27

and everything, and this is something

17:29

you won't want to miss.

17:30

Yeah.

17:31

I mean I've done a lot of cool things

17:33

since I started working here.

17:34

This was the cool.

17:35

It was incredible. I loved

17:37

that we we sat with him for about an hour and a

17:39

half. Yeah, And I said

17:41

to Mike, as soon as we've done, I could have done another hour

17:44

and a half easily.

17:45

It was so enjoyable.

17:46

I said to my dad so much.

17:48

It was it's learning to appreciate

17:50

Brady.

17:50

What made Brady great?

17:51

And everybody knows he won super Bowls, he had comeback

17:54

drives, you know, he had touchdown throws.

17:56

But Josh shows you what

17:59

made him special, from

18:01

snap to snap, down to down, every

18:03

moment, little subtle things. I mean, it's

18:06

just it's it's I see Tom Brady in a whole

18:08

different light. And like you said, Paul, like I

18:10

could have sat there for two more hours just

18:13

watching him go through the All twenty two show

18:15

us. You know, look at him here, he sees exactly

18:17

what it is, he knows where he's going with it.

18:20

It's just I'm so excited for

18:22

the fans to see it, especially people who really

18:25

get off on quarterback stuff and then quarterback

18:27

play and what made Tom Brady elite.

18:29

It's it's and Mike and I played the hits we got,

18:31

you know, like you know, super Bowl thirty

18:33

six against the Rams, and you know, the overtime

18:36

game winning drive against the Falcons and the Chiefs,

18:39

and but there's some other stuff in there that you probably

18:42

don't necessarily necessarily

18:44

remember, with the same amount

18:46

of detail that So we kind of gave you a good

18:48

little cross section. Yeah, regular season,

18:51

postseason, you know, different

18:53

stages of his career earlier, later,

18:55

and just sort of the maturation

18:58

process that you could actually see as

19:00

you go through them.

19:01

Yeah.

19:01

The cool part to me was just that Josh started

19:04

off as a coaching assistant and you know, we know

19:06

we left for a little bit, but when he I mean

19:08

he was basically there for the whole thing.

19:10

You know, he saw all the development.

19:12

I mean, he made a joke we were talking about a

19:14

game in six that we're reviewing and it's like,

19:16

you know, all of a sudden, you're the offensive coordinator.

19:18

How was that?

19:19

Trends in out I was very lucky to have Tom, you

19:21

know.

19:21

He's that.

19:22

But they became such a you know, a dynamic

19:24

duo, so to speak, and and you know,

19:26

Brady and McDaniels. I mean, this will live forever,

19:29

and I think it'll be, you know, something

19:31

that people really want to look at how great Tom Brady

19:33

was. I think this shows it in a way that nothing else

19:35

has ever shown.

19:35

Yeah.

19:36

I can't wait to see it.

19:37

Yeah, I can't wait to see how they edit it.

19:39

I don't know.

19:39

Yeah, yeah, I think we're gonna do and we're going

19:41

to need to sit down and figure out exactly

19:44

what our goal was to try to

19:47

present.

19:47

It a lot.

19:48

I was telling No Socks

19:50

that it should be edited in a way to make it

19:53

look like the old NFL films

19:55

would safety stable,

19:57

would sit down and maybe kind of have that time

20:00

kind of look to it.

20:01

Yeah, that was I mean, those were my I mean that's for me

20:03

like that.

20:04

I love those films, like and everyone remembers

20:06

those where you know, Steve Sable sitting, you know, in a

20:08

button down and a sweater and he's

20:10

sitting in the studio, you know, within his chair

20:13

and it's almost like masterpiece

20:15

theater kind of how he would, you know, introduce it.

20:17

Well, I was definitely thinking the masterpiece theater

20:19

thing, because I know they had to be a camera behind us,

20:21

you know, and you know, contrary to popular

20:24

opinion, they did not show the plays on the back of my

20:26

head.

20:28

But I heard You've got a lot of compliments

20:30

from Josh and your memory. Yeah,

20:33

like you were throwing stuff out there and

20:35

he's like, yeah, that's right.

20:36

Yeah, the steel Trap. Yeah,

20:38

Paul's like calling out corners names.

20:40

Yeah, it's the useless stuff that I can't

20:42

know.

20:43

Somehow, in this case, it was useful.

20:45

As soon as we got about twenty fifteen, Paul zoned out.

20:47

He didn't remember any I.

20:49

Was laughing with Deuce because I was sort of talking

20:51

about different personnel on the other side

20:53

of the you know, the other team. And

20:56

I have a recollection for the individual

20:58

players that were involved in any of those plays

21:01

from six, much more so

21:03

than I do now. Like if you ask

21:06

me, you know, like the

21:08

Denver game last year when they went down

21:10

the fields and you know, set

21:13

up the Ryland game winning field goal at the end,

21:15

I couldn't tell you who the cornerback was they gave

21:17

up the big play or anything, you

21:19

know for Denver. But you asked me, like, why

21:21

do you think seven was?

21:22

Like?

21:25

Is that because we were doing the paper?

21:26

Because I'm a loser now, No, seriously, get

21:30

older to retain new.

21:31

Information the brain, Really, I

21:33

have to push some other stuff out.

21:35

You gotta get rid of some of those. You probably

21:37

have a theory on that. What do I have to do?

21:39

Get rid of your olive oil?

21:42

Olive oil?

21:43

Definitely, if you want me to go into a rabbit hole

21:46

olive oil. Every day consumption is

21:48

we don't really linked to good memory

21:50

function.

21:51

What about oil?

21:53

That's two. That's definitely.

21:54

I have a goods take every day. Yeah, it

21:56

doesn't work. I'm only kidding. I

21:59

do take it every Some fish.

22:00

Oil is sketchy. You got to get a reliable

22:02

fish oil.

22:03

Yeah, but you need a lot of people are deficient

22:05

in omega threes and then their balance of omega sixes

22:08

is too much, and it can.

22:11

Correct me if I'm wrong. If anyone actually knows more.

22:13

Than this, somebody nutrition.

22:17

If we got a balance, it is

22:19

really bad, really bad.

22:20

Okay, that's always the rule of thumb. I always assume

22:22

they all know more. They will, let you know,

22:28

brain superfood.

22:29

All right, well, let's get to the listeners

22:31

eight five to five past five hundred programming

22:34

Note. Around one o'clock or so, Mike Reese

22:37

of ESPN, one of the

22:39

leading Patriots beat writers, will be

22:41

joining us to get his take on the draft

22:43

and in the current state of the team.

22:45

So we'll be talking to Mike around one o'clock,

22:49

just before or after we get to eat. All right,

22:51

let's get to the Ace ticket hout line. We'll start

22:53

with Tim and Westford. What's up,

22:55

Tim?

22:58

Hey, I just want to talk. But

23:01

Drake May for a minute, really

23:05

excited by the pick. Okay,

23:09

I think, you know, looking at him after

23:12

all the draft type has gone down, a

23:15

lot of people have compared him to Josh

23:17

Allen. I don't quite

23:19

see that. I don't think he I think,

23:22

you know, I think Josh Allen is kind of one of

23:24

a kind, super

23:27

elusive kind of quarterback and

23:30

a rocket arm. I

23:32

think Drake May is a plus arm. I

23:35

think he's you know,

23:38

kind of prototypical. But

23:40

I see it more as like a Jordan Love as

23:43

an NFL pro comparison. It's still a great

23:45

player, right, I guess my

23:48

My other feeling is, you

23:51

know, if this offensive line situation is

23:55

really not good this year, I

23:57

think in the best interest that Drake

23:59

made it not play.

24:02

But how will we know that just because yeah,

24:05

I mean, we find that

24:07

out before you know, when it's too late. You

24:09

know, how do you know if the line

24:11

is going to be good before they start playing games?

24:14

And if you want me in there right away, he's

24:16

going to be in those games.

24:18

Well, I don't think they should play him right away.

24:20

So regardless if

24:22

he's good enough to play.

24:25

Well, he might be physically good enough, but

24:28

I don't think he's going to be a

24:31

full field reader by the time the NFL

24:35

season opens. I mean, that was one of the big

24:37

knocks on him coming out is

24:40

that he was kind of a first read guy. So

24:44

I think he's gonna need

24:47

some time not only just getting used to the

24:49

playbook this offseason,

24:52

but also working on his footwork and becoming a

24:54

full field reader. So I think Jacobe Brissette

24:56

is starting no matter what. And

25:00

I think if we see bad offensive line

25:02

play, then

25:05

you know he can't go in until the

25:08

offensive line improves. And if

25:10

it doesn't improve, then

25:13

you know, I see a whole year

25:15

with him not playing.

25:16

All right, Thanks, Tim, I mean count me among

25:18

those that absolutely hate that mentality.

25:20

Well, listen, the whole thing where

25:23

I veer off of what Tim

25:25

was saying is he's gonna Jacoby Brissett's

25:27

gonna start no matter what.

25:29

Why.

25:30

I mean, so it has nothing to do with the offensive line.

25:32

I mean, this is Tim's view, and this

25:34

is a lot of people's view, but it has nothing

25:36

to do with the offensive line. You don't think that Drake me is going

25:39

to be ready to start, he may not be, and if

25:41

he's not, I would suggest Tim's right, don't

25:43

play him. But he says, but if he's ready to play, I

25:45

don't care what the offensive line he can't. I want my

25:47

third overall pick to elevate people around him.

25:49

Yeah, And when you say no matter what, then

25:52

you're saying even if he's head and shoulders

25:54

better than perset, and I don't that I don't agree

25:56

with. I mean, listen, you

26:00

can come up with examples of it

26:02

working every different way, and you can

26:04

also come up with examples of it not working

26:07

every.

26:08

If he's not ready, I don't want him to play.

26:10

That's where I agree with Tim. If he's not

26:12

a you know, if his footwork is still a mess,

26:14

and he hasn't, you know, learn how to

26:17

read the field and see the field properly,

26:19

I'm with Tim. I don't want to play him, but I'm

26:21

assuming that we're having a good training camp right

26:24

where he shows that he can do those things.

26:27

And the comparison to Josh Allen

26:29

is not about like level

26:31

of play, it's style of play.

26:34

Like he might never be anywhere near what

26:37

Josh Allen was four years ago, let alone

26:39

now. He might never get to that level.

26:42

But stylistically he plays in a similar style.

26:45

He's a bigger quarterback who doesn't necessarily

26:48

elude you. He runs through you, and

26:51

he has a big arm. Doesn't have Josh Allen's

26:53

arm, No one does.

26:54

Yeah, he's not quite the freight train that Josh Allen

26:57

is. To me, like hell run through, but he plays

26:59

in that.

27:00

That's where the comparison is. Yeah, And

27:02

a lot of people say, justin Herbert, that's the

27:04

mix.

27:05

It's a mix of those guys to me, And it's not

27:07

either one of them is perfect, but I think there's little

27:09

elements of both that if you kind of combined, And that's

27:11

that's kind of what I just want.

27:12

Like Tim, like I've used that comparison

27:15

a lot.

27:16

I don't.

27:17

I would never even dream of putting

27:19

him on that level of ability.

27:21

He has never played a game. Yeah, so

27:24

I agree with Tim, Like, it's not it's

27:26

not call him Josh Allen. I don't think anyone

27:29

is. I think they're just kind of comparing them.

27:31

Yeah, it's just to categorize the guys, like it's

27:33

just leading up into the draft. How else do you

27:35

get these players to resonate with fans who

27:37

don't really know as much about it. You have to give it, you

27:39

have to give a comparison, but you can't read too much

27:41

into it.

27:42

Like yeah, I mean, even I think we get on the field on ota

27:44

is you'll start to get a little bit of a sense. But on

27:46

one point I wanted to make off that call though, is that I'll

27:49

be very disappointed if this offensive line.

27:51

Is a disaster this year.

27:52

Like, I think that that's a huge miss if that, if

27:54

that ends up happening, I think that they have

27:57

enough depth there that they should be able to salvage

27:59

a serviceable, dedicated coach. Dedicated

28:02

coach guy knows what he's doing. He's been trained for

28:04

a while under Bill Callahan. So I mean, you

28:06

know, kind of like Elliott Well, some of these guys have been

28:08

apprentices to do what they're doing

28:11

now. And you know, if that ends

28:13

up short circuiting this season and harming

28:15

Drake May's development, I think that's something

28:18

that you really have to look at as a point of criticism.

28:20

Where we all knew it. We knew it was a disaster

28:22

last year. It wasn't addressed.

28:24

We knew it was you know, we knew that that was

28:26

a big piece that had to be fixed, and you

28:28

went the wide receiver route. It seemed like even if you traded

28:30

back into the second round, you wanted to go to the wide receiver route.

28:33

So I do think that that's an area that

28:35

you have to watch.

28:36

And that they I think they should be

28:38

okay, though good enough at least to not be like

28:41

we can't even put a rookie in because it's just

28:43

the guys are flying it.

28:44

I think that's going to depend on what they do for a

28:46

system. Evan's been talking about this a lot about,

28:48

you know, protecting the offensive line, and that was one of

28:50

the things that really stuck out to Mike

28:53

and I yesterday when we were watching a lot of those things,

28:55

and how many times Brady was the offensive

28:57

line.

28:58

It was amazing.

28:59

How many times was absolutely immediate pressure

29:02

Yeah, didn't matter because you knew, he knew

29:04

it was coming, he knew where it was coming from.

29:05

Now, there's always going to be offensive line complaints.

29:08

Yeah, and I think that there will be because I don't

29:10

think they've really done anything to address. So

29:13

I think they're going to have a similarly

29:17

in terms of the way they play. It's going to be

29:19

similar, But I think the offense

29:21

is going to probably do more because it's going to

29:23

be so different and to protect that,

29:25

yeah, and but sort of and hide that.

29:28

Yeah.

29:28

But will the communication be better on that?

29:30

I don't know those things to be, but

29:32

that that can help.

29:33

It would have helped even last year with those

29:35

guys, better communication even would

29:37

have helped them.

29:38

Yeah.

29:38

I mean I think even just in a heavy wide zone

29:41

system where you know, you want to I mean, Drake's

29:43

athletic, I mean, Jacoby's pretty athletic. I mean you're

29:45

gonna be running bootlegs with them, you know, stuff like that off

29:47

of play action. So you know, I do think that

29:49

there's some stuff baked into this offense that you

29:52

know, can just help. It's not going to just be a spread attack

29:54

where make sure we had the protection, right, that's

29:56

you know, not have any you know, free runners,

29:58

which is what you've seen a lot the last couple of

30:01

years, is those guys where it's like, well

30:03

that play had no chance because they were they weren't

30:05

they didn't have it protective, you know, And.

30:07

If a good defensive coordinator can create

30:09

that anyway, that's where the quarterback

30:11

comes in, right, right, What do I

30:13

do when it's a red alert.

30:15

Yeah, and that feeds into the question of and you

30:18

know, to Tim's point about you know, I don't think

30:20

you need to feel that a quarterback is ready to read

30:22

the full field before you can put him in. I

30:24

do think there's ways that you can manage young

30:26

quarterbacks, you know. And and

30:29

but how much are they gonna put on Drake may I? You know, we

30:31

again go back to the breething. I mean, everything was on him,

30:33

he could, you know, And I think that was one of the big criticisms

30:36

of, you know, the system that they kept going

30:38

after Josh with Mack, that you put so much on the

30:41

quarterback that if he.

30:42

Misses one thing, he's dead.

30:44

So now, you know, I know there's you know, David Anders

30:46

been saying he's gonna start calling the protections and stuff. So

30:49

I do think that there's some mechanical shifting

30:51

going on within this new system that

30:53

that I hope will help keep them all on the same

30:55

page.

30:56

Our first feedback on the Brady tickets,

30:58

Carlos writes in the show, just wanted

31:00

to give an update on the Hall of Fame

31:03

cermony. Tickets are sold out and

31:05

the cheapest verified resale

31:07

ticket was around two seventy five.

31:09

Wow.

31:10

Yeah, also wanted to ask

31:12

what your guys opinion was regarding to do

31:14

your job signs being removed from the facility.

31:17

I personally feel like it makes sense considering

31:19

it was the previous coach's mantra. It's

31:22

interested to hear your thoughts.

31:23

Yeah, I feel the same.

31:24

I mean, you've got to put your own stamp on the team, You've got to

31:27

put your own pictures up you want to you know, that's

31:29

that's I mean, that's probably one of the fun parts of

31:31

things that I like about coaching is you have to have your own

31:33

philosophy and you know, those things

31:35

are so attached to Bill and I mean the general sentiments

31:38

kind of remains with what you see,

31:40

Like we not me saw some of the signs that you know.

31:42

Supposedly that they had up.

31:43

But you know, that's that's what each coach

31:45

has in their discretion and how they want to you know,

31:48

what messages they want to boil down and really want

31:50

the team to focus on.

31:51

So it's funny, it's become a narrative kind

31:53

of because it's like, has football been

31:55

renovated in like twenty years, Like

31:57

they probably needed to refrash.

31:59

I just did the whole thing. They justly

32:01

Yeah, like before like what

32:03

was that it's inside of ten years

32:05

anyway.

32:06

Well, yeah, when they Yeah, they redid a lot

32:08

down there.

32:08

Yeah they did the whole now but now they they

32:10

read it again.

32:11

I know.

32:12

But I'm saying when we moved, when

32:14

I like, when we moved over to the other side

32:16

of the building, that all football all changed. That's

32:18

not that long.

32:19

No, when we first moved, Bill's office was

32:21

right up front, right and he had a window looking

32:24

out. And then when they redid it, they

32:26

moved his into more.

32:27

The interior didn't want the window anymore.

32:29

They didn't want a window anymore.

32:31

Regardless, Like if you bought a house, if

32:34

you bought a house and the previous owners were

32:36

like driving by to see like what you were doing,

32:38

Like don't update the don't take the floors

32:40

out like we worked hard on this, or like

32:42

oh you can't take the cabinets or redo the kitchen.

32:45

Like for my pic, it's less about

32:47

the snappy little sayings

32:50

because I'm not a big fan of Yeah, I

32:54

think that's I totally agree with Alex on

32:56

that, like take all of that out

32:58

and put yours in it's like to

33:01

use to continue Alex's like

33:05

home analogy, like no,

33:07

no, no, you have to have the pictures of my family

33:10

up there, right, I'm gonna

33:12

put you know what I want. What I am a little

33:14

bit curious about

33:16

is and I read this. This

33:19

was Cameron Wolfe's piece on NFL dot com,

33:21

who was here for the

33:23

draft, so he had sort of evidently

33:26

a little bit of a tour and info

33:28

session about all the things. I'm a little surprised

33:31

they took away as many of the pictures

33:34

of past success. I would think

33:36

that's something that you'd want to embrace, but

33:39

for whatever reason, they decided to take

33:41

all that away. But do your job, and

33:43

now it's I

33:47

have no problem with any of that. Like Jimrod should

33:49

have what he feels is an important messaging

33:52

on the walls. I totally agree with his

33:54

team. I'm with Alex, especially.

33:56

With the big criticism of you know, former Patriots

33:58

assistants trying to be Bill, like you

34:00

can't like always just keeping do your job, you

34:02

know, like that's Bill's thing, like he heeds.

34:05

I did like the camera and this is just the one

34:07

little critique I would say, And this

34:09

was nothing to do with what the Patriots have done. This was the way

34:12

it was written in the piece. It was like they

34:15

did have a picture of Belichick with

34:17

other past coaches.

34:21

Oh well, that's nice, you

34:25

know Rod rust Bill Belichick,

34:28

you know Bill Boshells. I

34:30

just thought that was kind of odd that they had, like that's

34:34

what they banished him too, like all with all

34:36

the rest of the you know, the memorable coaches

34:38

and scouts.

34:39

I thought that was a little strange.

34:42

Well, you can bet on that, and if you're in the game

34:44

or betting on the game, you'll need a game

34:47

plan. DraftKings Sports Book, the official

34:49

sports betting partner of the New England Patriots, provides

34:51

you with everything you need to build your personal betting

34:53

game plan so you can get on all the

34:55

action while practicing safe bets. Visit

34:58

DraftKings dot com slash with Responsible

35:00

dash Gaming to learn more about

35:02

all the safe betting tools DraftKings has to offer.

35:05

Hope is here eight hundred and three to two seven five

35:07

oh five oh or gambling helplinem

35:10

dot org must be twenty one plus play

35:12

It's smart from the start. Game sense

35:14

m a dot com physically president in Massachusetts.

35:17

See DraftKings dot com slash Responsible

35:19

dash Gaming for details and state

35:22

specific responsible gaming resources.

35:25

So hope us on the way.

35:27

That is difficult to read, But you

35:29

know what's not difficult. Bud Lie

35:32

Easy to drink, easy to enjoy. Bud

35:34

Light, the official beer sponsor of the New

35:36

England Patriots. You gotta work that

35:38

right in.

35:39

I didn't even realize you were doing an out read.

35:41

Just work it right.

35:42

Very easy to drink, It's so organic, it's

35:44

like you guys ordering pizza time.

35:46

Yeah, you can bet on that. Speaking

35:48

of betting, Yeah, Sam's

35:50

in Connecticut. What's up, Sam? Sam?

35:55

Sam?

35:56

Hey, Hey, guys, can you hear me?

35:57

Yes?

36:00

That a question about something

36:02

I haven't really seen discussed on the show so

36:05

far. Looking at

36:07

pats caps, the Patriots to have around fifty

36:09

million in cap space. Do

36:12

you expect them to spend that this season or

36:14

do you expect them to roll it over? And

36:17

if you do think they're going to spend it, what

36:19

position slash players do you think they

36:21

may potentially use it on?

36:23

Okay, Yeah, I do expect to expect

36:26

them to spend if not all of

36:28

it, most of it.

36:29

I don't, I don't. I just don't see where

36:31

they can right now. That's my only thing.

36:32

Yeah, like, where are you just going to get it a fie million in

36:34

caps?

36:35

I mean I could see Matthew Judon getting a little sweetener,

36:37

but that's.

36:38

Not that could get forty billion.

36:39

Yeah, I mean it's you know, they they definite they

36:41

need Look, they need five ten million to sign

36:43

all the draft picks and everything.

36:45

So well I thought that was counting. That is that

36:47

I thought that that number took in to

36:49

account the draft. Yeah, so I mean also

36:52

the neighborhood they have fifty they have fifty

36:54

million, you know in the draft. I mean that's usually

36:56

the way Miguel does it. Yeah, okay, but maybe

36:58

he didn't and I

37:00

would say, you need you definitely need

37:03

some money for I R and you know stuff

37:05

like you know in season.

37:07

Yeah sort of, but still that but

37:10

that's still a pretty big number.

37:11

That's a huge it's a huge number.

37:13

But I'm just like, I'm with you. I don't like, there's

37:15

not a big ticket.

37:16

Item that you can talk about your thing.

37:17

Maybe it's a it's a subtraction that they're saving.

37:20

It for a subtraction that they're

37:22

saving it, I mean dead money.

37:24

Yeah, that's not going to be fifty No.

37:26

But you know, little chunks here and there. You know, you get a

37:28

little sweetener.

37:29

For you might

37:31

get another another extension

37:33

too, who knows. I mean bar More was one. I was surprised

37:35

there wasn't as much. Who else

37:38

redre Andre

37:40

could get one one probably wouldn't heat

37:43

up too much space.

37:44

That narratives kind of started to about

37:46

it.

37:47

I was like, already, huh, well yeah, I mean the

37:50

media obviously turns to him. There came

37:52

in, you're

37:54

gonna get your Yeah, you really deserve

37:57

it, you know. That's how like some of

37:59

them do it.

37:59

That's what they do in New York.

38:00

Yeah, they go up to the guy in the you know, boy,

38:03

I can't believe it.

38:04

You know they do that.

38:07

They do that to one guy in New York. Then they go to

38:09

the other guy that might play the same position. A do

38:11

you believe they gave that money to that guy? My god, you're

38:13

better than him.

38:15

And then before you know it, he's just yep. Yeah,

38:19

school girls.

38:19

And that's why Parcels calls them commies

38:22

subvert from within.

38:24

And hi, evn't

38:27

hi. How's Mike on one?

38:29

You he's good?

38:30

Yeah, nothing has changed about Mike

38:32

on One who except a role X. He said

38:35

that at that he bought with his new contract.

38:37

But he didn't say no.

38:39

No, no to ask a good question.

38:42

I didn't get the model.

38:44

Was that an elected that he was riding?

38:47

No, I think it was a I don't think so, but

38:49

I guess he said that the defensive

38:52

players got them last year apparently,

38:54

and some of the guys left them here.

38:57

Uh, you know, over the just leave him here.

38:59

And so it wasn't his bike,

39:01

it was somebody else's bike. Was

39:03

the story? Big stuff?

39:06

What was Bentley saying about the kind

39:09

of culture stuff?

39:09

I don't know.

39:10

I just saw him saying stuff about things. It's it's

39:12

all across the building.

39:13

Now, Yeah, there's news, there's new slogans

39:17

and pictures.

39:23

Whiney can

39:28

adult today, Cameron Wolf somewhere

39:31

in the world from NFL network, I

39:33

think right network.

39:37

He had written his story obviously

39:39

had some access to to girod

39:41

and he had written a story about some

39:44

of the new pictures and slogans. And

39:47

you know, they revamped football. It's not Bill's

39:49

football operations anymore. So it's there's

39:51

different, uh stuff going on and

39:54

uh and so they they asked Jwan

39:56

Bentley about what's your favorite slogan

39:58

and his was progress process

40:02

something now is off the top of my head, I cannot

40:04

remember that's it.

40:06

Wow, yeah, I

40:09

read it in.

40:09

The process progress payoff is

40:12

what it is. And he just said that that that's

40:14

his favorite out of the few that

40:16

are floating around. But he

40:18

did say we have a slogan coach, well

40:20

when that comes, well he did. He did say

40:23

that, you know, it doesn't really matter. He

40:26

was like, thank you, but

40:29

yeah, he was like, if you don't walk the walk,

40:31

then you know, the slow the slogan really

40:33

isn't gonna gonna do much for you.

40:36

But yeah, he uh, you know, opened

40:38

the press conference with Celtics, ended

40:40

it with Celtics. So I was happy about that. Okay,

40:43

that's what's really important right now.

40:44

Okay, Evan, did you have a chance to send

40:47

your best wishes to Mike Gorman? And if

40:49

not, I did on Twitter?

40:51

Yeah, it motivated you to

40:53

get into the business.

40:54

I don't. I mean I didn't want to do the job that he does,

40:56

so I wouldn't say that. But as

40:59

a as a as a Green teamers, somebody

41:01

that bleeds green, I'm okay with saying that.

41:03

Did you cry?

41:05

It got a little Dusty full

41:07

fledged tried.

41:08

I have I have photo evidence because

41:11

it did.

41:11

And I'm not and I'm not just saying

41:13

this because you know I'm tough. No, I'm not really

41:16

a crier.

41:16

I am a crier, and that's not something that.

41:18

Was when when he when he

41:21

got he was getting choked up. You could tell on

41:24

his final sign off.

41:25

And it must have been a puddle when

41:27

Tom Heysen left.

41:29

Well what about Johnny most That

41:31

one hurts you way before my time.

41:33

Only true Jack's last game tonight too, Right,

41:36

Well, that's.

41:37

What I was going to bring up my Jack.

41:38

I don't think so they don't many.

41:40

People sucD Rock.

41:41

I do you think he's feeling like That's

41:43

what I didn't get because they said that Game

41:45

seven would be on ABC, But I didn't know if

41:47

there was an implication that they would lose.

41:49

No, No, there's no so that local TVs

41:51

only get first round.

41:53

I thought in the NHL they got the second round.

41:55

Maybe anymore. I think Mike

41:57

said last night Orman said

41:59

that eight was the last

42:01

time that they had No.

42:04

I thought the NHL was two rounds. Yeah, and

42:06

he wrote he did some interview.

42:09

I'm sorry, I don't know if he did a couple. I

42:11

don't know which one it was from, but he said

42:13

that he still hasn't forgave the NBA

42:15

for selling their souls to the big

42:18

networks and getting you know, the local guys

42:20

out of the playoffs. You know, he's still that still

42:22

bugs him to this this day.

42:24

The cowards too, cowards.

42:27

It's funny. I love Mike Gormy, I do, but

42:29

I can't wait for the playoffs so I don't

42:32

have to watch the local broadcasts, especially

42:34

in hockey.

42:35

Oh I don't watch anyway, You don't

42:37

watch. I know I watched the National.

42:39

Oh yeah, that's what I'm saying.

42:41

It's just better.

42:42

It's it well, sometimes depends on

42:44

what you're I just like when something happens

42:46

and I actually gets might

42:49

actually have happened, like when you watch the Bruins

42:52

and I know this is like taboo

42:54

now because it's so sad that and I

42:56

do agree that it's sad that Jack Edwards has

42:58

to just step down because you can't

43:00

do it anymore. But

43:03

like, I'd like to know what actually happened

43:05

on a play as opposed to the fiction

43:07

worlds that Jack Edwards.

43:08

Jack Edwards is Sean McDonough yeah.

43:11

When Jack Edwards compared the Bruins win

43:14

to the Revolutionary War, though, but that's a

43:16

classic.

43:17

That's a classic.

43:19

Back in the day, it was different.

43:22

Give me when I

43:25

just what I don't like about the national because I know

43:27

ESPN just took over and TNT just took

43:29

over, and as somebody that watches the Bruins

43:31

every single night, they don't know the team, like

43:33

they really don't, you know, they well

43:37

I don't really care about that, but they don't know

43:39

the team and that bugs me. Like I'm sitting

43:41

there, like watching it, and like they're

43:43

talking about a guy that isn't even

43:45

in the lineup that night, or hasn't scored

43:47

a goal in ten games, and they're pumping them up or

43:49

something like that, and I'm like, have you guys actually

43:51

been watching this team play?

43:53

I hear that I haven't heard things like that,

43:55

and I just I'm with you, Fred, I've

43:57

watched Sean McDonough. I think they've done a

44:00

fantastic job with the Toronto series

44:02

and they've gotten some of the the behind

44:04

the scenes stuff. Now what helps for Sean that he's

44:06

a Boston guy, so he probably does have

44:08

a little I'm.

44:09

Not talking as much about the play by play guys. I'm

44:11

talking about the.

44:12

Think it's been terrific. And I like Brickley,

44:14

but I just think he gets sucked into the homersm

44:17

of Jack And yeah.

44:19

I can't I can't handle that. I can't stand

44:21

Scal awful.

44:23

It's awful.

44:24

Now I have when I Scal's pretty

44:26

good though, we'll.

44:28

See play by play guy.

44:29

Yeah, the Syracuse Robot, Oh

44:32

yours are mean. I feel like Scal

44:34

though, Like last night, he's still complaining

44:36

about the reps. They're up thirty points and

44:39

he's still bitching about how they're not handled

44:41

that in the free throw discrepancies, like twenty

44:43

to two as it should have been, like the Celtics

44:46

were the more aggressive team. But like Scal's

44:48

going off about the refs and I'm just like, dude, they're

44:50

winning the game by thirty points.

44:52

Is not the difference.

44:53

Six games all year, every one of them was because of the refs.

44:56

That Drew that Drew Carter kids just like oh

44:59

man, tough call. Like not

45:01

every single time they lose it's because of the rest.

45:03

I have to admit. When I was a green teamer back

45:05

in the eighties, I would listen to Johnny most.

45:07

Yeah, I mean for the entertainment. I

45:10

mean it was completely biased. It it

45:12

was like ridiculous at times

45:15

Tommy, but it was just you had to listen to Johnny

45:17

Mos.

45:17

I feel like scal is trying to be like

45:19

Tommy because Tommy always used to complain about

45:22

the rafts and all that stuff. But

45:26

it's not the same, Like, it's not this it was

45:28

like when it was coming from Tommy. It was different

45:30

for some reason.

45:31

The only thing I would say about Scale and

45:33

Tommy is Tommy would

45:36

die. Tommy would get down with the ship like

45:39

you kidding me, and then they would show the replay

45:41

and it'd be like blatant, right,

45:43

and he would just stay with it, like you

45:46

know what. Scale sometimes

45:48

will watch the replay and go okay,

45:50

all right, he probably got him on the yard there.

45:53

That's the only plus

45:55

I would say for Scale.

45:56

But I totally agree with you.

45:57

He's trying to rip off Tommy.

45:58

Yeah, Scale points, Yeah, I don't

46:00

know, it's just like and

46:02

I think if you did a poll of people who watched

46:05

the local broadcast, most of most

46:07

of the fans want that they want the home

46:09

of view. They don't want objective,

46:14

don't there's two

46:17

things there too.

46:17

Much Like I want

46:20

for my local broadcast, I want homers

46:22

I do. I want to listen to my team get

46:25

excited when my team does well. That

46:28

doesn't mean that I'm not calling what's going on

46:30

on the game in the game. And Mike

46:33

Goleman was great because he actually

46:35

told you what was happening happening

46:38

in the game when it was to me the

46:40

heyday was Mike, Tommy and Bob

46:42

Coozy. And when Kozy would tell

46:44

you five minutes into the game, Bird

46:46

and Company didn't come to play tonight. This game

46:49

is going to go down a little Why because they were so good

46:51

they could turn it on and off in the middle of a game. He'd

46:53

tell you they're not they didn't come to play tonight.

46:56

He wouldn't just.

46:57

Say the referees have put them in a hole

46:59

in the first quarter, which is what happens now.

47:01

Yeah, yeah, you know.

47:02

And that's I don't mind. I

47:05

want Jack Edwards' enthusiasm, but

47:07

when the Bruins commit a penalty, I don't want

47:10

it to be a bad call every time. He called

47:12

the ref of coward the other night for being

47:14

the first guy off the ice, like

47:16

I don't.

47:17

I just I didn't.

47:18

I didn't appreciate it. I understand, so

47:22

he's probably just like whatever, like

47:27

tell me what's happening in the game, Like

47:29

I don't mind that you're rooting for this. I'm rooting for the

47:31

team, like I want the Bruins to win.

47:33

But hopefully he gets to call a win because

47:35

the way the Bruins look the other night, they are they're.

47:37

Trying to blow out.

47:38

I'm sorry you get like three shots and forty minutes.

47:41

It's not the ref's fault that you lost the game. I

47:44

swear to you. If if I have to

47:46

listen to Doris Burke call another Celtics

47:48

Playoffs series against the Sixers, I'll

47:51

turn on the radio. I really like the horsebur

47:53

She's.

47:53

Better with play by play as than color.

47:56

Like color, she feels obligated

47:58

to say something after every play, like

48:01

I agree with criticism.

48:03

She has talk.

48:04

The other day, I forget which game I was watching.

48:06

I think it was either a Knicks game or

48:08

maybe even the Bucks. But JJ

48:11

Redick was in the booth wow,

48:13

and Doris made a joke

48:15

about like.

48:17

Oh, they barely even guarded him.

48:18

Looks like like JJ Reddick out there like

48:21

as a joke. JJ did not take

48:23

it as a joke. JJ was silent

48:26

for the next five minutes until halftime,

48:28

and then the other guy in the booth was like trying to get JJ

48:31

to talk, but it was so awkward.

48:34

JJ goes

48:37

that was a little unnecessary. Right after she said

48:39

that it was silent, I was like, oh no, I have secondhand

48:42

like awkward.

48:43

I can't do Doris. I just especially when

48:45

they play the Sixers, Like if they're playing a different team,

48:47

it's fine. But she grew up in like

48:50

South Jersey and she's the biggest

48:52

Joel Embiid fan on the planet.

48:54

I've heard that criticism.

48:55

Yeah, and I I just Boston fans.

48:58

Okay, well that's who the ones that are watching, Like

49:00

all of.

49:01

The national meanies are all rooting against

49:03

your team.

49:04

That's not about rooting against them. I just don't need

49:06

to hear about how great.

49:09

Power to bring it back to the Patriots.

49:13

You know, during the game when we're

49:15

covering the Patriots, I listen to

49:17

the broadcast whenever I can, and I'm doing

49:19

the blog and I hear people and it's

49:22

amazing how right off the bat, Jim Nance

49:24

hates the Patriots. Mike Tarico hates the Patriots,

49:27

and I'm listening and I'm like, I'm not

49:29

getting that, Like they're doing an okay job.

49:31

They're not favoring and I get I would

49:34

write, I would say more so, especially

49:37

in the early you know, two thousands, if

49:39

you were the fan of another team, he would say, Jim Nitz,

49:41

all he talks about is the Patriots, I.

49:42

Would definitely say, especially like the Color

49:45

guys who loved Bill right

49:48

like it was completely apparent

49:51

that these guys are like bowing at

49:53

the altar of it rightly. So the guy won

49:55

six titles. I understand why they had

49:58

such reverence for him, But I don't how

50:00

you could come out of any of those national broadcasts

50:02

and think people were rooting against Bill.

50:04

Phil Simms hates the Patriots.

50:06

You know, like it's like I don't know, you

50:09

know, normally I I that does like

50:11

I try not to do that, and it does bug me, but

50:13

but it's it's clear as like day

50:15

with Doris with the Sixers, Like

50:18

I mean, every single time they set to play the Sixers in

50:20

the.

50:20

Playoffs, I'm probably

50:22

not going to play the Sixers.

50:23

Though, no, probably not. You We're lucky, we're

50:25

saving ourselves from that.

50:26

All that to say, we've had some like legendary

50:29

like Jerry red Mey and Don Ricillo, Mike

50:31

and Tommy Gil Santos.

50:33

Like, yeah, legendary, we had it so.

50:35

Good and Jerry, we

50:37

we gotta let it go. With Donncillo, he's

50:40

not walking through that door.

50:41

What was the much better pair of Fred the

50:43

guy before Sean McDonough and yeah.

50:46

Like but it's

50:50

all about Don cracking. They

50:54

were great, like that was that was

50:56

invented by.

50:59

John Pearson.

51:00

Well that's me. That's good.

51:02

That was really good the only and I dare

51:04

I don't want to speak for you, Alex, but I'm sure we're probably

51:06

in the similar boat. She's a lot

51:08

younger than you, don't kid. Donnacillo

51:11

with the Red Sox obviously, Mike

51:13

Gorman with the Celtics and Jack Edwards with the Bruins,

51:16

Like those were the three people that that's

51:18

well. I mean, Jack Everard's been doing it for nineteen years,

51:20

so I'm only thirty.

51:21

So like h Sean got a little

51:23

bitter after he left. Yeah, he actually

51:26

complained was stole

51:28

my act?

51:29

And he totally did. He sounded just like

51:31

Sean who had better me

51:34

just like I think they were both excellent.

51:35

I think they were both excellent. I like Donald solo

51:37

a lot. Now to Fred's point,

51:40

not to the point where I'm going to wage a Twitter campaign

51:42

to try.

51:43

Right, like.

51:45

The war camp.

51:46

I was working for Nesson mind you.

51:48

This was years after Don had gone to San

51:50

Diego. I would write a Celtics article or

51:52

like a Bruins article, and the comments would

51:54

still be like, you guys.

51:56

Got rid of Don, bring back and

51:58

it was unreal. Yeah, good,

52:01

good local announcer talk right there.

52:03

We didn't even mention my namesake

52:05

or my my likeness.

52:06

I am.

52:09

Yeah, it's the national It's always a national

52:11

crew for Fred Chusick was a pretty

52:13

good play by play guy.

52:15

Yeah, yeah, he had. I

52:17

had nothing to compare it to.

52:18

I was Derek Sanderson, Keys

52:21

to the game, Skate Skate Skate, I

52:24

was.

52:24

I went to school with Derek Sanderson's son.

52:26

But we're forgetting the best color

52:28

guy for the Red Sox. He

52:32

was the best.

52:33

The best experience I ever had in

52:36

my career was being a little Ness in intern

52:38

and getting to watch games with E

52:40

and like as funny as he was calling the games.

52:43

The stuff he said in the room. Oh,

52:45

I write a book.

52:47

I love that man.

52:48

Why did you like that so much?

52:50

Just just this little quirky you know, look at

52:52

that cheese and that one had hair on it, or

52:54

you know the time that he would swear on air and

52:56

then have to come back.

52:57

After Dave

53:00

Price has taken four minutes between pitches. He's

53:02

telling you this guy's a clown. That's why

53:04

he was the best.

53:05

The best example of how beloved Ech was

53:07

was when David Price and Eck had that little

53:10

altercation on the plane, and instead of all

53:12

of the fans standing by their star

53:14

cy young pitcher, they said, hell,

53:16

no x our guy and just the

53:19

man, terrible.

53:22

Baby, he has the

53:24

cards now or whatever you know they want.

53:26

All right, let's get back to the phones. People are like,

53:29

what are they talking about? Well, this is our show.

53:31

We can talk about inside.

53:34

We went over a lot of news.

53:35

All right, let's go back to the ace ticket hut line

53:37

eight five five past five hundred. Landed is

53:40

in Virginia. What's up landing? You

53:43

guys?

53:43

Doing good?

53:47

So first time caller. I never

53:49

thought I'd have to call in until

53:51

I heard read all all

53:53

a Baby on live radio.

53:56

I had to come to fall and

53:59

talk about how I agree

54:01

with him on how drafted Joe Milton could

54:04

affect our third overall pick

54:06

developments be I'm

54:09

twenty two years old. This is the first

54:11

time a quarterback has ever been younger

54:14

than me, and to throw him into a position

54:16

like that, if time's crazy when

54:19

you're dealing with I love Patriots,

54:21

I love our fan base.

54:23

We're very uh, we're

54:26

not very forgiving, and so I want

54:28

to put our quarterback in the best position possible

54:31

the defense.

54:32

But I also had a question for you guys, at

54:35

what point do you.

54:36

Guys think we can evaluate Draws

54:39

Elliott's draft class. We have to wait

54:42

a year, two years, five

54:44

years, wouldn't be going to be able

54:46

to look back and say, how was their

54:49

first draft at our

54:51

GM and head coach?

54:53

Yeah, wow, good question.

54:54

I mean, thanks Landon, I mean training

54:56

camp. I mean, I'm not with it. That's not the final evaluation.

54:59

But I think right way, you're gonna know if these guys can

55:01

play the receivers, and you know, you're gonna

55:03

get a sense of Drake May right away. You're gonna

55:05

get a sense of where these offensive

55:07

linemen are in the depth chart.

55:09

How much is Kayden Wall is he at left tackle? Is

55:11

the starter?

55:11

You know?

55:12

I mean you can't make a final definitive

55:14

judgment till a couple of years evaluation.

55:16

Yeah, there's there's different places

55:18

and each of them have their own criteria,

55:22

you know. But like you said, you can't make the final

55:24

call, the definitive call until

55:26

like two years, like if you.

55:27

Had made the call about Mac after

55:30

his first season compared to you

55:32

know what I mean, Yeah.

55:33

People did, and.

55:35

If you want like the final pictures, I'm with Duce.

55:37

I think that one of the biggest players require

55:40

one of my biggest pet peeves is like, oh,

55:42

you have to wait three years, and you know, when

55:44

we get out there in training camp, especially

55:46

for the skill player guys like Jalen Polk and

55:48

Javon Baker, we're gonna know if those guys

55:51

have got the juice or not, like pretty much right

55:53

away, when when Javon Baker lines up against

55:55

Christian Gonzales, can he get away from him

55:57

or not? Like we're gonna be able to see that.

55:59

I agree that's short extent, but I would say,

56:01

you know, just as a point of recent

56:03

comparison, during training

56:06

camp, rookie year of Taekwon Thowton, I would have

56:08

told you this guy has some of that that you were

56:10

talking about. Yeah, I thought he was pretty good in his

56:12

first camp. Never

56:14

Never did I think he was pretty good when the game started.

56:17

Yeah, No, I think you have you need

56:19

two years because of the

56:21

MAC thing, Like you need to see how the when the league

56:24

reacts, in the league adjusts, is

56:26

he's still going to be good post adjustment

56:29

and that usually takes at least a full year to

56:31

be able to see him. At least one full year, but probably

56:33

too.

56:33

And like to Mike's point, I

56:36

think there's a chance you might see Kayden Wallace at

56:38

left tackle or even right tackle. You

56:40

know, I brought that up before when

56:43

you were still doing the interviews, like if if

56:45

you see would it be stunning to see both

56:48

Wallace and a core for a corps for it left

56:50

and Wallace at right?

56:51

I don't know, that's what.

56:52

I'm not expecting that, but I mean I wouldn't

56:54

be stunned to see it. Yeah, I mean that doesn't

56:56

mean to me, that doesn't make it. It doesn't

56:58

make it a good draft, right, like

57:01

it means that he's better than Calvin

57:03

Anderson and Connor McDermott who they cut.

57:05

Yeah, and I mean I think too.

57:06

It's it's it's directly related to like what they

57:08

need, you know. It's like if they have in the key spots,

57:11

like you know, if the guard Robinson doesn't work out, it's not.

57:13

That big a deal. But you know Wallace the

57:15

receivers.

57:16

I mean then, I mean, I'm thinking back to seeing

57:18

to Kill Harry in training camp, seeing Cole Strange

57:21

in one on ones in training camp as a rookie, and you

57:23

know, you got bad juju vibes out of those juju

57:26

not juj, but you got bad vibes

57:28

kind of out of the gate of like is this guy can this guy

57:30

play? Because he like, you know, I mean, Nikil Harry

57:33

looked great from like the point he walked to the top of the stairs

57:35

to the sideline and then it's just started,

57:38

right.

57:39

I was like this close

57:41

to callin Nikill Harry a bust and OTAs

57:44

before his rookie training camp, and it's

57:46

crazy, you know, it's like, well,

57:50

let's wait, let's wait, because Fred wasn't overly

57:52

impressed either, but like you know, he's a rookie,

57:54

first round pick. You want to give him a chance. Like

57:57

you want to give him a chance, but you know, kind of back full

58:00

cracle to our announcer category. If you're

58:02

tell it everybody, then everybody's great, and

58:04

then they actually see them play and they're not great,

58:06

then what does.

58:07

That make you? Anybody

58:09

have an example of someone

58:11

who, uh, we

58:14

thought was a bust but then ended up

58:16

not being.

58:17

Huh, that's a good question, because

58:20

I have a million the other.

58:20

Way, Yeah, a million the other way. But someone

58:24

this guy can't play and then all of a sudden he surprised

58:26

everybody.

58:28

I'm struggling. Yeah, I'm trying to so the

58:31

closest I can come.

58:32

And I wouldn't say bust because he was like a third

58:34

round pick, but like Anthony Jennings, I thought on

58:36

the way out of town, Yeah, yeah, he couldn't

58:39

get on the field. When he did get on

58:41

the field, he didn't do anything. Yep, And all of a sudden

58:43

he got a you know, his first real extended opportunity

58:46

last year, and I thought he played really well.

58:47

That's a good example.

58:48

Yeah, late bloomers like that, Yeah.

58:50

Late bloomers.

58:51

I'll still think about that. But just one

58:53

other point I want to make was like with and when you like

58:55

you kind of knew right out of the gate,

58:58

this guy's involved, like they're getting him at right

59:00

guard, they're getting him at right tackle, like he's in there

59:02

a lot like.

59:03

You put you right out of the gate. This guy's

59:05

going to play, yes, you don't know out

59:07

of the gate is he going to play well?

59:08

Right?

59:09

And then that's that's all you got.

59:10

That's my thing.

59:11

And I say this to Fred all the time. They always

59:13

tell you when it doesn't look

59:15

good for a guy, you can't to Evan's point,

59:18

you can't evaluate you need, you need three years.

59:20

Can't evaluate these guys. But

59:22

God help us if a guy looks good. On September

59:25

seventh, mailed

59:27

it what a draft pick? Like, nothing

59:30

can change, Nothing can change. And

59:33

I'm telling you there's a lot of guys that look good out

59:35

of the gate. Chad Jackson looked unbelievable

59:37

out of the gate, never did

59:40

really anything for the paper.

59:41

I think to it's it's like situational

59:43

because you know the positions of need and

59:46

you know when you just see the coaches are giving

59:48

a guy a chance, like it's hard to know. Are

59:51

they putting him in there to see how he plays

59:53

with the around the other ones. We're not sure

59:55

if this guy is really talented. Let's put him

59:57

with the ones and see how he kind of looks out. Is he moving,

1:00:00

you know, at the same speed as those guys, or you

1:00:02

know, is this somebody that we really see potential

1:00:04

in and and you know we think he's Malcolm

1:00:07

Butler.

1:00:07

I was just gonna say, Malcolm Butler was

1:00:09

one of those guys that right away in ot A as

1:00:11

you saw them like with regular players,

1:00:14

and you're like, they have they have some confidence

1:00:17

in this guy.

1:00:18

Hey, joining us right now on

1:00:20

the WebEx Cisco line

1:00:23

is Mike Reese from ESPN. Hey Mike, what's

1:00:26

up?

1:00:26

Fred?

1:00:27

Hey Paul?

1:00:27

What's up again?

1:00:29

What's going on?

1:00:30

Cubicles?

1:00:30

Are you in the building forever?

1:00:34

Oh, you're right here. I wanted the field.

1:00:36

Yates had a nice like bookcase behind

1:00:39

him. He's rich May that's

1:00:41

the.

1:00:43

Stadium.

1:00:45

Mike. I know we've got you on a

1:00:47

laptop and what you see is not what

1:00:49

everybody else is seeing. So just so you know that but In

1:00:52

We've got Deuce here, We've got Alex, We've got

1:00:54

Evan, Paul myself. So thanks

1:00:56

for joining us. What's up? How you doing?

1:00:59

How's your uh off season been

1:01:01

so far?

1:01:02

Everything is great, Alex. I'm so happy

1:01:04

you're in there. I didn't see you when I was looking

1:01:06

at the screen.

1:01:07

So awesome.

1:01:10

N everything

1:01:15

is great, Fred, it's been it's been

1:01:17

a great off season. And I want to

1:01:19

tell you yesterday was a great day

1:01:21

and just seeing Alex made me think of it. I

1:01:24

was down in Providence with six players

1:01:27

and it was really a very meaningful

1:01:30

thing.

1:01:30

You know.

1:01:31

I know we're going to talk a lot about the football, but I

1:01:33

went down there because the team had

1:01:37

They were working with this Foster Forward

1:01:40

or Not, you know, nonprofit organization

1:01:42

that set up three apartment units for

1:01:46

three youth that are aging out of foster care.

1:01:48

And Fred it was like an amazing building

1:01:52

that they put together, and with

1:01:54

the Patriots being down there, it brought a lot

1:01:56

of media and and I was sort of uplifted

1:01:59

by being there.

1:01:59

It was really cool to see.

1:02:00

That's cool. And Mike, you you've always

1:02:03

been really good at covering those

1:02:05

events, one because

1:02:07

you know they're nice events and

1:02:10

like you said, uplifting, but you're also

1:02:12

smart because those are times where

1:02:15

you get to know the players a little bit differently.

1:02:18

Freddie Adam so Jacoby.

1:02:20

I hadn't seen him since he got traded

1:02:22

in twenty seventeen.

1:02:23

And he looked at me and he goes,

1:02:26

you look the same.

1:02:27

And I said, Jacoby, that's like the biggest compliment

1:02:29

you can give me right now, like, because I.

1:02:31

Don't feel the same. I feel old, I'm tired.

1:02:35

My go ahead.

1:02:36

Oh.

1:02:36

I was just gonna ask you, Mike.

1:02:38

You know you were here.

1:02:40

You've been covering this team since, you know, the late nineties.

1:02:42

I know you got your start with Fred, but so much

1:02:44

has changed this year, and just what has it been like from

1:02:46

your perspective, the shift

1:02:49

from kind of how things had been now

1:02:51

to Gerard and the energy around the team.

1:02:53

Just from your perspective talking to the fans,

1:02:55

I mean, you're so plugged in. What's that experience

1:02:58

been like from you as the whole culture's

1:03:00

kind of shifted here in Foxboro?

1:03:02

So just start with starting with Fred,

1:03:05

because I was reflecting on that

1:03:07

recently, nineteen ninety seven first

1:03:10

ever game deuce preseason

1:03:13

lambeau Field. Oh my gosh, like

1:03:16

like think about that, Oh, it's your your first

1:03:18

job out of college, and

1:03:21

just go go cover a preseason game at lambeau

1:03:23

Field and Fred said

1:03:25

to me.

1:03:25

Fred, I don't know if you remember this.

1:03:27

You had your little camera with you.

1:03:29

Get down on one knee, Mike, and just

1:03:31

just say something about the game.

1:03:35

I remember the old postgame shows.

1:03:37

Absolutely, yeah,

1:03:39

the best, the best.

1:03:41

So I was reflecting on that, and I

1:03:43

think in a lot of ways, Mike, like, I'm

1:03:46

trying to just keep an open mind this

1:03:48

offseason, because you

1:03:51

get used to something for twenty four years

1:03:53

and it's you know, sometimes you

1:03:56

get thinking like that's the only way to do something,

1:03:59

you know, and it

1:04:01

was so successful that it's like

1:04:04

I can it's normal to think

1:04:06

that way. So as I'm older now,

1:04:08

Mike, so like, I'm trying to keep an open mind to

1:04:10

say, Okay, don't judge what's

1:04:12

happening as much as just let

1:04:15

it unfold and report on what's happening, if

1:04:17

that makes sense.

1:04:17

It feels more open. It feels a little

1:04:20

I.

1:04:20

Don't want to use the word looser, but just

1:04:22

like like a little bit of like everyone

1:04:24

took an exhale and it's

1:04:26

sort of like, Okay, let's let's move this forward

1:04:29

and try something a little different.

1:04:31

Okay, Mike.

1:04:34

We can read what you had to say about the draft

1:04:36

on ESPN. So I don't want to really get

1:04:38

into like, you know, how do you think this guy is going to do?

1:04:40

And so on. But in terms of

1:04:42

one of the conversations that's going on now

1:04:45

is do you play Drake May right away? Or

1:04:48

you know, no matter what, do you let do you have him

1:04:50

sit at least for some of the season. Are

1:04:52

you in a camp or on that

1:04:55

on that take.

1:04:56

I'm in a total camp of let

1:04:58

it play itself out, for like, I don't understand

1:05:01

why anyone would have to

1:05:03

be like he has to play. And actually

1:05:06

someone at ESPN texted me that today he's

1:05:08

the number three pick. He has to play, and

1:05:11

I said, I guess I'm in the other camp of

1:05:14

it will we will know based on

1:05:16

what we see, Yeah, and by

1:05:18

by setting like a declarative

1:05:21

like it.

1:05:22

Has to be this.

1:05:23

I just I don't understand that.

1:05:25

Yeah, but this is also the camp that says he

1:05:27

has to sit and I don't agree

1:05:29

with that either. Yeah, me neither.

1:05:31

Friend.

1:05:31

So, but so here's my question to all

1:05:34

of you, like why, like

1:05:36

why I understand we have debate and we

1:05:38

have to feel like airtime, but why do we have to

1:05:41

like say that it has to happen.

1:05:43

Why can't we let it play itself out and

1:05:46

whatever happens on the field dictates

1:05:48

the decision, Like I guess I don't

1:05:50

understand.

1:05:52

Someone enlighten me.

1:05:53

Yeah, No, it's a great point because

1:05:55

if you go back to twenty twenty one, I don't

1:05:57

think anybody was spending this saying.

1:06:01

Mac Jones has to play, he

1:06:03

has to be the starter.

1:06:05

You couldn't have had much worse quarterback play

1:06:07

the year before with Cam Newton.

1:06:10

So I don't remember everybody just

1:06:12

saying definitively yeah, but

1:06:14

like the fifteenth overall pick has to play, but

1:06:17

the third overall pick has to play. Like to

1:06:19

Mike's point, let the process play

1:06:21

out.

1:06:22

He and I usually locks down. I don't know if you know, it's the

1:06:24

best part of the award.

1:06:26

And that's what you're telling.

1:06:28

And here's the thing with Mac. With Mac,

1:06:30

had he sat, do you think it would

1:06:32

have made a difference, Like if he had sat

1:06:35

behind Cam Newton for half the season

1:06:37

or even a season, do you think it would have helped

1:06:40

Mac Jones?

1:06:41

No?

1:06:42

I fred I personally thought like at

1:06:44

that point, like it was so clear

1:06:47

to everyone that was at practice

1:06:50

that he gave him the best chance to win.

1:06:52

So I think it would have hurt

1:06:55

the team if he sat.

1:06:57

Definitely would have hurt the team.

1:06:58

Yeah, Mike, explain your reason, because

1:07:00

this is something we did talk about on the show about

1:07:03

how the the like the sort of a message that gets

1:07:05

sent.

1:07:06

So if you're so to me, Paul, like, if

1:07:08

you're sending a message that it's all about

1:07:10

competition and the best players will

1:07:13

play, and it's it was so remember

1:07:15

when Mack had that practice against the Giants.

1:07:17

Yep, it was so obvious

1:07:19

at that point that it was the offense was

1:07:22

running a certain way with Mac

1:07:24

that it wasn't with Cam that I

1:07:26

felt like Coach Belichick owed it to the team

1:07:28

to play Mac because if he didn't,

1:07:30

what message was he sending to the players, We're

1:07:33

going to play a quarterback that.

1:07:34

Doesn't give us the best chance to win. But

1:07:37

it's you know, we're gonna focus.

1:07:39

Here on the development of one player

1:07:41

over what gives the team the best chance

1:07:43

to win. It's a balance, obviously,

1:07:46

but when it was, if it's that decisive,

1:07:49

I think you just let let that

1:07:51

decision play itself out

1:07:53

by what happens on the field. And if it's like this,

1:07:56

so, how about this, would Jacoby and

1:07:58

Drake? If it's close who Jacoby

1:08:02

right?

1:08:02

That can't hurt.

1:08:05

Drake will probably have to be that much better

1:08:07

than Jacoby to get the nod, just

1:08:09

because it makes sense to.

1:08:11

Play it a little safe. Yeah, you know,

1:08:13

if does that make that that's.

1:08:15

Sort of my view. Yeah, So

1:08:17

I'm not going to go run down the draft. But other

1:08:20

than Drake, who was your favorite

1:08:22

pick for the Patriots or who's the guy that you're most

1:08:24

intrigued about seeing?

1:08:26

So I went with the last one, Fred Bell,

1:08:30

the tight end jahem Bell?

1:08:31

Did I say it right? Evan?

1:08:33

Yeah, that's a good answer, all

1:08:35

right, And here's why.

1:08:37

So I have to be honest.

1:08:40

I don't study the players as close as Evan

1:08:42

does, So I have to stay within what

1:08:44

I feel most comfortable in my wheelhouse.

1:08:47

And I look at opportunity based

1:08:50

on the roster.

1:08:51

So Hunter Henry, we know he's going to be there at tight

1:08:53

end, Austin Hooper pretty

1:08:55

good, Betty's going to be there behind him at tight

1:08:57

end.

1:08:58

So I look at like there's a spot behind those

1:09:00

two. If Bell can

1:09:02

do.

1:09:03

Sort of what he did last season, catch

1:09:05

and run short and intermediate roads,

1:09:08

and so I like the opportunity in

1:09:10

this, you know, for him there, and I

1:09:13

think he's sort of a different maybe

1:09:15

type of tight end, sort of a not necessarily

1:09:17

an inline guy and maybe fits well with

1:09:19

what Alex van Pelt and the Browns

1:09:22

have done with their tight ends.

1:09:23

Yep, yeah, absolutely, I think that he

1:09:25

has the most explosiveness out of

1:09:27

the group, definitely on I mean, Hunter

1:09:29

Henry's mister reliable, mister steady,

1:09:31

but there's no doubt that Jahim Bell is the

1:09:33

best athlete in that room right now.

1:09:36

Mike, I wanted to ask you about Elliott

1:09:38

Wolf's future and just your read

1:09:40

on you know, are they going to interview people

1:09:43

to maybe be an official general

1:09:45

manager or above him even on the totem

1:09:47

pole, And do you think that he there's

1:09:49

a chance that he's given the title after

1:09:52

this offseason?

1:09:53

So my read is that and

1:09:56

I don't know this for sure, Evan, but I assume

1:09:58

he's just going to continue in his role. And

1:10:02

if this was sort of like a trial run

1:10:04

for Robert

1:10:06

Kraft to feel comfortable

1:10:08

with it, I think he did a good

1:10:11

job and he continues to do a good job in terms

1:10:13

of these resignings that we're seeing.

1:10:15

So if there are interviews.

1:10:17

To me, it would be to compliment.

1:10:20

Elliott Wolfe, Matt grow

1:10:22

Alonso high Smith, Patrick

1:10:24

Stewart continue.

1:10:26

I don't want to leave anyone out, but you get my point. I

1:10:29

believe that the structure they have will stay in place.

1:10:32

But I am and I don't think it'll be like a

1:10:34

general manager title unless

1:10:36

I'm way off on that.

1:10:37

It would be maybe like a vice president.

1:10:40

Of player personnel, which is if I recall

1:10:42

what it was with Bobby Greer back

1:10:44

in the late nineties, when Pete

1:10:46

Carroll was coach, what Scott Pioli

1:10:49

was, what Nick Cassari was,

1:10:51

did I and check me all of you if

1:10:53

I'm wrong on that.

1:10:54

But no, there's no one. I mean, we know Bill

1:10:56

was, but there was no one since I've been

1:10:58

here that has had the title of general

1:11:01

manager.

1:11:01

Yeah, I would argue that that title is higher than the general

1:11:03

manager. But I wanted to ask you

1:11:06

something that we were talking about earlier in the show,

1:11:08

Mike about the cap space the Patriots.

1:11:10

I think Miguel has it at around fifty million

1:11:14

of cap space. Do you anticipate the Patriots

1:11:16

using much of that? I

1:11:18

mean, obviously there'll be expenses that

1:11:20

are incurred to take up some of that. But

1:11:23

in other words, is there another maybe big

1:11:26

money extension that's possible

1:11:28

between now in training camp or.

1:11:30

Portrayed on resigning or something.

1:11:32

Yeah, I like the

1:11:35

thought I was.

1:11:36

We talked to Ramandre Stevenson two

1:11:38

days ago and he talked about it. I know running

1:11:40

backs aren't like necessarily the biggest ticket

1:11:43

items. He would be one that comes

1:11:45

to mind that could use some of that space,

1:11:48

But I Paul, off the top of my head, I

1:11:51

can't think of anything that

1:11:54

would use a significant chunk

1:11:56

as much as just like good to have the flexibility,

1:11:59

right, opportunity presents itself

1:12:02

in a trade that you have the flexibility

1:12:04

to do that. I'm curious with all of you, like,

1:12:07

are you thinking of something or am I missing

1:12:09

something with another player on the roster.

1:12:12

No?

1:12:12

Yeah, you kind of batted it around, and I don't

1:12:14

think. I don't think any of us really

1:12:16

envisions a big ticket item coming

1:12:19

available now. The obvious

1:12:22

one as a possibility would be one

1:12:24

of the veteran wide receivers, you

1:12:26

know, a T. Higgins or a Brandon Ayuk, and then you

1:12:28

acquire them and give them a big,

1:12:32

you know, a big contract.

1:12:33

But I don't really think any of us envisions

1:12:35

that.

1:12:35

I can't think of anything, But I think an opportunity

1:12:38

will present itself, and I think I

1:12:40

think they will if they have an if

1:12:43

they have a chance, they'll they'll they'll

1:12:45

take you know, they'll do it.

1:12:47

Yeah, I wonder if it's a you know, there's

1:12:49

still some veteran defensive players in free

1:12:51

agency that didn't sign before

1:12:53

the draft. You know, Stefan Gilmore is obviously the

1:12:56

biggest name. I think Justin Simmons is still

1:12:58

out there too, if I'm not mistaken. But

1:13:01

you know, Mike, do you have any indication at

1:13:03

all if if Gilmore would be open

1:13:05

to a reunion with the Patriots.

1:13:07

And I don't know if you know about his relationship with Gerard

1:13:09

at all.

1:13:10

You know, so so not

1:13:12

too much Evan, And I think I'm thinking

1:13:14

about the position off the top of my head. I mean,

1:13:17

they possibly could use a little help

1:13:19

there, my gut. Evan

1:13:21

tells me that they'd like to see the young kids

1:13:24

first before and so

1:13:26

I think timing wise, I wouldn't

1:13:29

sense like anything like right now. But

1:13:32

I I you know, Stefan, I think I

1:13:34

don't think like this would be like a door closed

1:13:37

type thing. But he's a very

1:13:39

shrewd in my opinion, businessman,

1:13:41

So I don't think it would be like I want to come

1:13:43

back on a short money deal. Like

1:13:46

I think he's going to be out there looking for a significant

1:13:50

deal. And if ultimately the Patriots

1:13:52

like, like, let's be honest, you know, like Christian

1:13:54

Gonzalez incredibly promising,

1:13:57

but I mean he did get hurt right in the fourth

1:13:59

game of his career the depth.

1:14:03

Mike, I just got a text from p R you

1:14:06

wanted elsewhere. You have something coming up

1:14:08

in a couple of minutes the room.

1:14:10

They need room, Mike, So I'm.

1:14:11

Gonna let you go, but I appreciate you coming

1:14:14

on and always always a

1:14:16

pleasure to talk to. Mike g Reese.

1:14:18

Awesome, all right, thanks for having.

1:14:19

Me, Mike, Mike, all right.

1:14:21

I always tell you.

1:14:22

My favorite Mike Greece story is the day that I because

1:14:24

I was hired to replace Mike Reese here,

1:14:27

good job, and you

1:14:29

know Fred the Kingmaker Pete

1:14:32

Carroll was the coach at the time, and Brian

1:14:34

Moorey introduced me to Pete and he

1:14:37

said he's replacing Mike, and he goes,

1:14:39

whoa big shoes to Phil.

1:14:41

Then he goes, well, actually, but

1:14:44

but welcome.

1:14:45

But that's and that's Mike Reese two years out of college,

1:14:47

Like that's his He established.

1:14:49

That relationship professionalism

1:14:52

even at that two years. That's why I tell the story

1:14:54

not to take a crack at Mike being small,

1:14:57

but more so that the respect the head coach

1:14:59

had all around.

1:15:00

I'm pretty sure probably twenty four years old.

1:15:02

She's pretty sure when Andy Hart left in twenty

1:15:04

twenty, they didn't go to Mike do so and say, oh,

1:15:06

Bill, Bill Belchieivisor's

1:15:09

advisor to film, and

1:15:12

he would be like, oh that hurts.

1:15:13

Well, that's stings.

1:15:14

But after a head size

1:15:16

and I feel like maybe I could fill it.

1:15:17

Your head size is the angle.

1:15:19

Foods here, We're gonna take

1:15:21

a break when we come back. More calls and emails here

1:15:23

and Patriots Unfiltered. If you want to see

1:15:25

Toyota's best offers and have a first look

1:15:27

at that, including those not seen on TV,

1:15:30

go to buy at toyota dot com. It's Toyota's

1:15:32

official website for deals from the official

1:15:34

vehicle, the New England Patriots Toyota. Let's

1:15:37

go to the DraftKings commercial.

1:15:39

Whether you're in the game or betting on the game, you'll

1:15:41

need a game plan. DraftKings Sportsbook,

1:15:44

the official sports betting partner of the New England

1:15:46

Patriots, provides you with everything you need

1:15:48

to build your personal betting game plan so

1:15:50

you can get in on all the action while practicing

1:15:53

safe bets. Visit DraftKings

1:15:55

dot com slash Responsible dash

1:15:58

Gaming to learn more about all

1:16:00

the safe betting tools DraftKings has to offer.

1:16:02

Hope is here eight hundred and three two seven fifty

1:16:04

to fifty or gambling Helplinema

1:16:07

dot org must be twenty one plus play

1:16:09

it smart from the start game. Sincema

1:16:11

dot com physically president Massachusetts,

1:16:14

see DraftKings dot com slash Responsible

1:16:16

dash Gaming for details and

1:16:19

statespecific responsible gambling

1:16:21

resources.

1:16:23

Isn't it time to get exactly what you want? Welcome

1:16:26

to Red Hot Deal Days from Verizon, where

1:16:28

you get your pick of our best deals like

1:16:31

my Plan, where you can pick the perks you want

1:16:33

and save on everyone for limited

1:16:35

time. Bring your own phones to a Horizon store

1:16:37

and you can get my plan for our best price

1:16:40

ever.

1:16:40

Get exactly what you want.

1:16:42

On your phone plan and only pay for what you need. Bring

1:16:44

your phone to your Verizon start to day and

1:16:47

get my plan. These deals won't last. It's

1:16:49

your Verizon.

1:16:53

And we are back with another edition of a

1:16:55

PU halftime show. It to He's down here, Chris

1:16:58

Cassidy, as always were, start off

1:17:00

with some trivia. I got some good stuff today, Chris. Don't

1:17:02

answer it, all right, I might. Question

1:17:05

one, when was the

1:17:07

last time the Patriots wore their

1:17:09

silver alternate jersey? All right, give

1:17:11

me the week, the year and the opponent the

1:17:14

week. Yeah you're yeah, yeah,

1:17:16

week the year, opponent?

1:17:17

All right? Question two?

1:17:19

Who caught Vinny Testaverde's only

1:17:22

career touchdown passes the New England Patriot?

1:17:25

Probably don't even know.

1:17:26

What that is?

1:17:28

And question number three, how

1:17:30

many rushing yards did Fred Taylor have.

1:17:33

As a New England Patriot? All Right, you probably

1:17:35

don't even know what that.

1:17:35

Is either, Fred Taylor?

1:17:36

Yeah, yeah, all right, Bill's

1:17:39

guy.

1:17:40

Anyways, let's get into

1:17:42

it. Let's get it. Let's get into it. Let's get into it.

1:17:44

Jack's guy, all right, okay,

1:17:46

alright, right, So so so, Chris, there's

1:17:49

been a while since we've done some of these because

1:17:51

it's been kind of busy here a little bit.

1:17:52

Yeah, we had the draft, we did.

1:17:54

We did Yeah, saw A class the first

1:17:56

of the Mayo Mayo Elliott wolf Era. But

1:17:59

no, we're gonna do a little breakdown on our end what we

1:18:01

think of the draft, we think of

1:18:04

the picks, and so

1:18:06

Chris, what do you think?

1:18:09

Just like quick grade overall quick

1:18:11

grade?

1:18:12

Yeah, before

1:18:14

I give the grade to say, I think they hit all the pieces

1:18:16

that they needed. Okay, were

1:18:19

they the right pieces, we

1:18:21

don't know yet for sure, but overall

1:18:23

I would give him around a B plus A minus.

1:18:26

Yeah, I was going I was going B B

1:18:28

plus.

1:18:30

Listen, I think the may pick was needed, it

1:18:32

was the gat, it was the right pick, and the

1:18:35

way the board played out, I

1:18:38

think they're very smart they didn't trade that pick. I

1:18:40

mean, you were on the draft countdown, we're talking about potentially,

1:18:42

you know, getting a haul from the Vikings and trading

1:18:44

back. But I mean, look what happened to the Raiders. Like Pennix

1:18:47

went super early. He wasn't gonna be there

1:18:49

in the second round.

1:18:51

I mean that Penis pick is still nuts.

1:18:53

But you could we could go into a whole thing about that too.

1:18:56

But listen, I personally

1:18:59

a little not disappointed because the

1:19:01

pick needed to be done. The Caden

1:19:03

Walls and Leyden Robinson pick. They needed to be done.

1:19:06

I just think there were some really

1:19:08

good players on the board that you missed that, like,

1:19:11

like, you know, we we took

1:19:13

the tackle, but you know you had Roman Wilson there,

1:19:16

you had the other tackle

1:19:18

from Pittsburgh, addas

1:19:20

at Isaac the defensive end, and you know,

1:19:23

I just feel, like Evan mentioned it, there was a

1:19:25

top tier line of tackles and

1:19:28

I think we missed out in a couple. So I

1:19:30

hope Wallace works out. And then

1:19:32

also with Polk, I

1:19:34

listen, he's very good, and it's tough because you know,

1:19:37

you had all the shiny toys there, Adie Mitchell,

1:19:39

Roman Wilson as mentioned earlier, and I

1:19:41

guess Polk was hiding a lot of people's boards.

1:19:44

The Nutburn

1:19:49

Baker. The Baker pick made the Polk pick

1:19:51

feel better.

1:19:51

I agree.

1:19:52

I think I was just about to pick your back off of

1:19:54

the pole comment that you just made. But I think that

1:19:56

Javon Baker picked by the Pats in

1:19:59

the fourth round, by the way, their second

1:20:01

fourth round pick, which was even the kind

1:20:04

of it was

1:20:07

really piggybacked. I mean I already use

1:20:09

that term picking back of for you, but that it was

1:20:11

a huge ad with the Jalen

1:20:13

Polk pick, just because kind of counter

1:20:16

one another. And also, I mean, whoever's

1:20:19

playing quarterback this upcoming season, they have weapons

1:20:21

around them and they haven't really had

1:20:23

that deep ball threat. Both of these guys are deep

1:20:25

deep ball threats. Jalen

1:20:27

Polk especially, I mean one

1:20:30

of the better contested catch players

1:20:33

in college.

1:20:33

Football last year.

1:20:34

So these both of these editions

1:20:36

were huge for the team. Yeah, and

1:20:39

again, I think that Jayvon Baker pick was

1:20:41

high on everybody's boards here in New England.

1:20:43

And I mean I haven't got up draft guys, ivn't

1:20:45

got up.

1:20:46

I haven't seen a remotion. I haven't seen a reaction

1:20:48

like that before. And it was pretty funny and so

1:20:51

Evan was pumped.

1:20:52

It also shows that they were you

1:20:54

know, it's been a last since we had at true

1:20:56

receive over here. I mean they reportedly

1:20:59

made like tried make a move for Xavier

1:21:01

l Get and key On Coleman,

1:21:03

who I know Evan wasn't high on key On

1:21:06

Coleman, but.

1:21:06

I've already come to terms that since he's not here,

1:21:09

he's gonna be a superstar. Yeah, that's just how That's

1:21:12

just how you.

1:21:12

Were saying forever that you thought is going to be

1:21:14

a bust.

1:21:15

Was Evan talked my ear

1:21:18

in my ear, he got on my ear, and I, you

1:21:20

know, I hope he is.

1:21:21

I've been I've been pretty high on Keon for

1:21:23

the most part, but I he scares

1:21:25

me a little bit in the sense that he's

1:21:28

very Harry esque. Yeah, and I

1:21:30

mean he's serviceable, but

1:21:33

when he a league, you don't know how he's gonna fully

1:21:35

adjust the Bills. The Bills

1:21:37

kind of made a move for him, essentially.

1:21:39

It's funny because we

1:21:42

talk about we talked about all these receivers, and I honestly

1:21:44

don't think we mentioned Polk. I mean, Evan Deduce

1:21:46

like wrote about him, but like in the Draft Countdown

1:21:49

podcast, we didn't really talk about him. And then

1:21:51

you like look at his tape and he's he's solid.

1:21:53

You're just like overshadowed by Roma Dunde,

1:21:55

who's a beast.

1:21:56

Yeah. I think Evan had him in his uh. I think it was

1:21:58

his twelve spot. Yeah, was this twelfth

1:22:00

receiver on On in the draft and kind

1:22:03

of in that second tier of guys aside

1:22:06

from the Parrison's neighbors. And yeah,

1:22:09

Brian Thomas's and everybody else up there. But

1:22:12

he was in that second tier. And I mean,

1:22:15

to Evan's credit, he was. He wasn't one hundred

1:22:17

percent on it, but he was. He was kind of there with what

1:22:19

he was writing. And I mean, our

1:22:21

guys really did a pretty good job of keeping

1:22:23

track of the guys that the Patriots were interested in this

1:22:25

year.

1:22:25

So another guy I wanted to talk

1:22:28

about, and it would have been a luxury pick, Jatavian

1:22:30

Sanders.

1:22:31

I think that was a potential miss.

1:22:33

Yeah.

1:22:33

I mean he just kept dropping just the way the board was

1:22:35

playing out. I mean, he actually was taking two

1:22:37

picks before Leyden Robinson and

1:22:40

then you know, we got a tight end in the seventh. But yeah,

1:22:44

there were beasts.

1:22:45

There were two tight ends that I

1:22:48

personally felt the Patriots could take that weren't

1:22:50

going to be in that first year of tight ends. Uh,

1:22:52

And it was Jatavian Sanders and

1:22:55

Jaheem Bell. I thought Jaheene Bell had a really

1:22:57

good career at South Carolina before coming over to

1:22:59

Florida State. By the way, Marcel

1:23:01

Style and Yeah Dreams teammates

1:23:04

teammates back in South Carolina in twenty

1:23:06

twenty two. But when jahaem Bel made the

1:23:08

switch to Florida State. I mean really,

1:23:11

he became that number one tight end on

1:23:14

a college football team and that was a big thing for him.

1:23:16

And he flourished at Florida State. He was great.

1:23:18

So you know, he's

1:23:21

really a bigger guy. He can get get targets

1:23:23

and he's also a pretty good run blocker. So the

1:23:26

overall really solid pick for the Patriots, something

1:23:28

that they needed. And between

1:23:31

those two guys, he was one of the two that I felt they could take

1:23:33

and they got him.

1:23:34

So let's go into one more thing, and it was

1:23:36

a big thing on the filth third, Joe

1:23:38

Milton, what are your thoughts like that liston We

1:23:40

Got It Machine.

1:23:42

He's a beast.

1:23:44

I think he's a great player or like a great athlete.

1:23:47

He's a great quarterback. And you

1:23:49

know, I'm I'm not in on ZAPPI nice

1:23:52

kid, I'm sure.

1:23:53

But he's great. I love love Bailey

1:23:55

Zappy.

1:23:56

I'm more at the thing, yeah, the Avon

1:23:58

and Paul thing, which is like, you know, he's

1:24:00

gonna look great and T shirts and a short. He's

1:24:03

gonna throw a bomb to Baker this summer.

1:24:05

And you know, Drake May might have some growing

1:24:07

pains and stuff like that. And then you got the twenty

1:24:10

four year old freak athlete

1:24:12

who's gonna throw a deep ball and THENTO a backflip.

1:24:14

That's so what's interesting about Joe Milton?

1:24:17

And again we mentioned we already mentioned Bailly

1:24:19

Zappy. It's kind of tough. He was released last

1:24:22

season and uh, you know he

1:24:26

after being released last season was picked back

1:24:28

up by the Patriots. But Joe Milton, he's

1:24:30

somebody that you

1:24:33

know has similar issues to Drake

1:24:35

kind of pocking mobility is not quite there.

1:24:38

Yeah, but I mean he he has

1:24:40

ability to be the interesting

1:24:42

quarterback backup possibly in this NFL.

1:24:44

So I'm Milton over Zappy for backup.

1:24:46

I don't know if he's I think kent with.

1:24:48

It, because what kind of athlete doesn't want

1:24:50

to go for the starting job.

1:24:51

Your three quarterbacks? But sorry, Milton,

1:24:54

May and Versette this season we

1:24:58

share a birthday.

1:24:59

There you go, all right, Chris, thanks for joining.

1:25:01

As always, guys, send your hands to the web Radio

1:25:04

Pictures dot Com and let's get back to the show.

1:25:08

When someone accidentally threw away the school

1:25:10

play costumes, no

1:25:13

replacements were shipped with FedEx and with

1:25:15

picture proof of delivery. Everyone could focus

1:25:18

on the perfect opening night FedEx

1:25:20

where now it's next for residential

1:25:23

delivery.

1:25:23

Only and

1:25:25

now great moments in.

1:25:29

History.

1:25:30

What's the Top Golf situation?

1:25:33

Tuesday?

1:25:34

Tuesday night, you're

1:25:36

going to play Top Golf? Thanks

1:25:39

for inviting me.

1:25:40

Oh, it's actually for Mike's brother.

1:25:41

It's for my brother in law.

1:25:43

Wanted nothing more pha

1:25:45

he's out. He wanted nothing cameo, Yeah,

1:25:47

they want. He wanted nothing more than a cameo from Hardy

1:25:50

for our family secret.

1:25:52

I don't know.

1:25:53

I didn't see the video, but he told me the story.

1:25:55

Oh, and I have a video of my brother in law opening.

1:25:57

So Hardy was like, well, why don't we just go to Top Golf cut

1:25:59

my brother than Lockolf's And so

1:26:02

I had the video of course, o'hardy. But then I took a video

1:26:04

of my brother in law opening it and like you've never

1:26:06

seen anyone more excited, And like when you.

1:26:08

Heard Parrillo's gonna be there too, Oh,

1:26:10

let's go.

1:26:11

He's from southeast Like yeah,

1:26:13

he get so excited.

1:26:14

They love you, not like Hardy.

1:26:16

You should have seen it. It was like Brady gave

1:26:19

him the cameo when he found out.

1:26:21

It's like a thirteen year old open like Taylor

1:26:23

Swift Tickets under the tree.

1:26:26

Wow, that's another great moment

1:26:28

from.

1:26:31

Suns Out. Funds Out get ready

1:26:33

for warmer weather with the latest in stock

1:26:35

and ready to ship outdoor styles from Bob's

1:26:38

Discount Furniture Shop. Everything from

1:26:40

weather resistant wicker seating and barbecue

1:26:42

ready bar and dining sets

1:26:44

to on trend indoor outdoor rugs,

1:26:46

umbrellas and decor. Stop in and

1:26:48

shop now to embrace springtime at

1:26:51

Bob's Discount Furniture, the official furniture

1:26:53

store of the New England Patriots. There

1:26:56

was only a way I could get my grass

1:26:58

to look the way it looks now in August, I'd

1:27:00

be upset. In the spring the grass

1:27:03

comes up, it's thick and green and showers.

1:27:08

You have no water down on your your

1:27:10

mats.

1:27:11

What do you mean water? No sprink I

1:27:13

could put my own sprinkler. You know, I could

1:27:15

water, But you know, but you're to August, and it's

1:27:17

like you feel guilty.

1:27:19

But you know what I'm saying is you don't have any I

1:27:21

don't have irrigation.

1:27:23

I don't know, I don't have an irrigation system.

1:27:25

We do and my dad, not me,

1:27:27

but my parents house does. And like my

1:27:30

dad's obsessed with technology, so he's

1:27:32

like always on the freaking phone app

1:27:34

like playing with.

1:27:35

It and stuff.

1:27:35

It's like I don't want the sprinklers to turn on when

1:27:37

I get home because then I'll And

1:27:40

I'm just like, okay, mister,

1:27:43

go go gadget over here.

1:27:44

That's fun.

1:27:45

But like everybody's grass looks great, now

1:27:47

mine doesn't.

1:27:48

It looks like c really I agree

1:27:50

for even mine looks good.

1:27:53

I gotta do some weeding, I like, I just

1:27:55

it's it's a life project of mine with the lawn.

1:27:57

But yeah, I have some minor issues in the

1:27:59

back, the rabbits that lived back there.

1:28:01

But you got the Japanese not weed. It's just this.

1:28:03

It's a nice you got the Japanese little

1:28:06

trivia.

1:28:06

Anybody ready, let's go.

1:28:09

It's an Invasi's plant. It's invasive, Paul,

1:28:12

It's a big problem.

1:28:13

What is the last time the Patriots wore

1:28:16

their silver alternate jersey?

1:28:17

Oh?

1:28:17

I helped him rite anything the opponent

1:28:20

in.

1:28:20

Their silver alternate

1:28:22

jersey.

1:28:26

All right, we don't know that was Cowboys, No,

1:28:28

but it's Buffalo seven, right, Buffalo seven.

1:28:31

I was literally just about to say Buffalo and you

1:28:33

jumped all.

1:28:34

Over seven

1:28:36

and they should Those are awful.

1:28:38

I did have time. I apologize.

1:28:40

Who caught Vinnie Testaverdi's only career

1:28:42

touchdown pass as a New England Patriot?

1:28:45

Christian Fourier incorrect?

1:28:47

Daniel Graham incorrect. I don't

1:28:50

even think they play it together.

1:28:52

Answer is Troy Brown.

1:28:53

I knew it was one of those.

1:28:54

I remember.

1:28:55

I thought that was something about four being an answer

1:28:57

to a trivia question.

1:28:59

Oh, with that over, finally,

1:29:01

how many rushing yards did Fred Taylor have

1:29:03

as a New England Patriot?

1:29:05

Oh?

1:29:05

Boy, it's like two or three games. I'm going to

1:29:07

say four hundred and thirty

1:29:09

eight.

1:29:10

You would be wrong.

1:29:12

Two hundred and seventeen.

1:29:14

Incorrect, one hundred

1:29:16

and eleven, one hundred and fifty

1:29:18

five.

1:29:19

Fifty five.

1:29:21

I remember, like, I think it might have been against

1:29:23

the Jets that he was because he was I

1:29:25

mean, he probably maybe dressed for two games, but there was one

1:29:27

game at the Jets.

1:29:28

I guess it was ten or nine that.

1:29:31

That he had the he had like a really nice run. I

1:29:33

remember it got called back for a penalty. And this

1:29:35

is the weird things to stick in your brain and like, oh Fred

1:29:37

Taylor, Yeah, yeah, yeah, you see how it works, and then we

1:29:39

never saw him again.

1:29:40

Yeah.

1:29:41

Speaking of running backs, I have a question for the group.

1:29:44

You guys want to give Rimandre a second contract?

1:29:46

No, it would

1:29:48

have to be very very team friendly, you

1:29:51

know, coming off an injury right now and running

1:29:53

back and you know the way they go

1:29:56

through right backs here and it doesn't seem to hurt them.

1:29:58

I wouldn't give him an extension now, but

1:30:01

after the year, I would let him explode

1:30:03

the market and take him back

1:30:05

on a friend.

1:30:06

Can I throw a question back at you? No,

1:30:09

I just to looking at the running back depth chart. I mean, considering

1:30:11

what they want to, you know, probably do with the wide

1:30:14

zone. Do you feel like they have the horses right now? I mean

1:30:16

it's Stevenson and Gibson and then a whole

1:30:18

lot of math. I mean it's you know, Kevin Harris,

1:30:20

undrafted, Deshaun Fenwick, Jamichael Hasty

1:30:22

Keys, Shaan Vaughan. I mean, you got two guys,

1:30:24

which is kind of what you had last year. But I I just I'd

1:30:27

like another guy like and I'm not sure.

1:30:29

Guy from Oregon State.

1:30:30

Why does that ring a bell to me?

1:30:31

I think so that sounds right.

1:30:34

I mean, Fenwick just stick to

1:30:36

me because he's not.

1:30:37

He's not a bishop.

1:30:39

H Yeah, it's a good question. I mean, obviously Antonio

1:30:41