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All right, welcome to Patriots Unfiltered.

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It is Tuesday here at Gillette

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Stadium, and we got slots to talk

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about boy starting

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with this roast and Rookie mini

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camp starting this week on Thursday, and

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so there's there's a good mix of subject matter

1:47

to go over. It's Deuce, It's Alex who

1:50

came in after that roast and was just

1:52

like, I can't believe what I just saw.

1:54

I was ready to talk about it all day, and

1:57

some people were like, oh, I'm too big, Like Veronica

1:59

had a whole message outside her Q was like

2:01

I can't talk, I'm too busy, and then people were

2:03

working from home.

2:04

It was like only Fred that I got to.

2:06

Geek out with talking about

2:08

We all talked. The four of us talked about it.

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You didn't want did and

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some ish Paul's here, I

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couldn't take my eyes off.

2:20

It was it was, it was, it was crazy.

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I mean, I don't know what you expect. I mean, that's what

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a roast is, right like, but but

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it's still was just that nothing well

2:28

was off the list.

2:29

That's what a roast is. But I didn't think that they

2:31

do that. Now, once Jeffrey

2:33

Ross is involved, you

2:35

know they've got to do somethings. But boy,

2:38

you know they went there.

2:39

They did. I mean everybody but all those.

2:41

People say, I can't believe they got away with

2:43

that. If you've listened or seen the

2:45

Jeffrey Ross I've

2:48

seen worse, especially when a woman

2:50

is the person being roasted, like

2:52

some of the things, like I think it was Joan.

2:54

Rivers the herd roast.

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They were fishes, So

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I would like, that's what I expect from a Jeffrey

3:01

Ross Rose. But I just didn't think they'd

3:03

go where they went, and they went everywhere.

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There is not one taboo

3:08

subject that they didn't hit.

3:10

And right off the bat too, they got right into

3:12

it.

3:12

Oh yeah, I mean everything

3:15

that was I mean, name it.

3:16

Giselle's karate instructor was one that like,

3:18

I was, oh my gosh. And then Bill

3:20

with his young girlfriend too, that was another one

3:22

that I just you know, joke areas

3:25

that the right cap I.

3:26

Mean was unreal.

3:28

I mean like Foxboro High scouting

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your heads and.

3:31

I thought everybody did it like Edelman

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did a great job, Bronk, everybody

3:35

did a great job. I think the worst person was benefit

3:38

Ben a Fleck. Yeah, and he's the only actor

3:40

among the group, and he was the worst. Everyone

3:43

was hysterical, unhinged.

3:45

It was it.

3:47

Maybe it was a little too long, but it was. It

3:49

was amazing, did you.

3:50

I mean because I saw some fans say

3:53

it kind of felt cathartic in a way, which I

3:55

mean.

3:55

I think that's interesting. You know, like like all

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these guys.

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Who have all this like you know, kind of controversy with

4:00

each I mean, obviously they had great things together too, but

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it just feels like this is kind of what some people

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need to get, like just let's all sit around

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and just roast each other and then we'll feel

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better.

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I don't know, it was definitely, you know what.

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I've heard that a lot, and I can understand

4:14

that. It's like you finally

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had that fight, you beat the crap

4:18

out of each other, and then it's like, okay, we're good

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now.

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We should have done it every season.

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I feel like that was like, let's all, let's

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just hash it all out, you know, in a public forum

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and let everybody laugh about it.

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And then we'll move on.

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So I think, like I talked

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to some people, this is good.

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You know.

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I thought it was good for.

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The for the organization and for the

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for the brand, but also you know,

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for that dynasty era

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of players. I thought it was a good

4:44

thing. It's like, yeah, we we were We

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had a lot of screwed up things that went

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on, but you know, we're okay.

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It's ok the end of the day, we.

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Can all do a shot and say we won some games,

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and you know, we screwed each other over here and there, and

4:57

and we had some nasty things but to say.

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But at the end the day, everybody's tied tied

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together.

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And yeah, that was the moment to the

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shot, not even Belichick and Crafts,

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which came after, but right after Gronk's

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bit when he said, when he was doing

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his whole bit about how similar Tom and Bill

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are, and he said, as

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his last point, and neither of you have ever had

5:16

a drink with me. And the next thing, you know, they're

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all ripping a shot together. And that's

5:20

when I tweeted this. But I was like, this isn't out

5:23

of body experience if you're a Pats fan, because

5:25

you would never thought you would have seen something like

5:27

this, but just how uptight everything was.

5:29

But just to hear them like really going

5:31

at each other like they probably used to in

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the locker room, just so unfiltered, so

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raw, so funny, especially once they

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got the drinks flowing and they realized like, oh,

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this is like a proper twenty ten roast right

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now, Like this is back when comedy.

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Like we we went.

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I felt like we hadn't had anything like

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that in the comedy world in just so

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long, like five years, five ten years.

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I've been waiting for this for so long.

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Yeah, look to old Foxboro

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High is the only job offer you've.

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Had that was Edelman getting

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back at Bill Just nothing

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was nothing was sacred.

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No, And poor Gronk, Like I just feel like Gronk didn't

6:09

realize that there was going to be so many,

6:11

so many strays, Like

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poor Gronk, Like you know, Nikki Glazers like

6:16

going in hard on Gronk and I'm like, oh, leave

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all alone.

6:18

He's so sweet.

6:19

What about Drew Bledsoe,

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I know, Paul's guy.

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He was right off the bat getting get hurt

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though.

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He was excellent, handled comfortable,

6:29

he was excellent, and he was one of the first.

6:31

Non evidently he was bleep face.

6:34

Yeah, I know, maybe well he was.

6:35

It was a great promo for his vineyard, Yeah,

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red from the Bloodsoe family winery.

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And he was really early.

6:42

I mean I did see him, but the first he was

6:44

the first non comedian right to go, and

6:46

and he looked just so comfortable up there.

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And you know, you saw with with Randy a.

6:50

Little bit like, oh man, you know, you got

6:52

these jokes and it's hard.

6:53

When you're going after these comedians that that know

6:55

how to deliver the.

6:56

Drew was the coolest guy.

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He was.

6:58

I could definitely see him.

7:00

Kevin Hart, I love this man. I

7:03

feel like I've seen you at.

7:04

Every Walmart in those picture frames, you know, employee

7:07

of the of the month.

7:08

You know, like he's got that face.

7:10

That's true, that's true.

7:12

But he was funny and yeah,

7:14

now I guess it's it's it's uh, it's

7:16

just funny listening to everybody discuss

7:18

it and bring out their favorite parts.

7:20

And I mean, there's just so much. Like you said, it was three hours, right,

7:22

That's why I had to I had to tap out along

7:24

from.

7:24

How I couldn't.

7:25

I couldn't you watched it,

7:28

and I like.

7:29

Everybody raves them like and admittedly

7:32

I will up front, I'm going to let everybody I

7:34

did not see it, but everybody

7:36

has raved about this. I haven't really seen one person

7:38

who said it was not good. Not one. Yeah,

7:41

and you know how I always say that I don't mean

7:43

that literally. I mean this one literally.

7:45

Yeah.

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I have not found one person that didn't find

7:48

it funny.

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There were some ladies clutching their pearls upstairs.

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Okay, one one particular,

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there was one man that I work with that

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was clutching, but he thought it was funny.

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One but he just kind of thought.

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Maybe it was a little One particular

8:02

security booth operator came up to me

8:05

and she was like, I had

8:07

to turn it off for some parts of all.

8:09

It's funny because I thought she was trying to stop

8:12

me yesterday and that's probably what she

8:14

wanted to stop me about. Yeah, and I just kind

8:16

of like, the way.

8:17

Does she stop you?

8:18

You guys talk occasionally

8:21

interesting.

8:22

You have to be special to get yours.

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When you're behind me.

8:25

But like he's still going to talk to Devin McCarty

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about that.

8:28

You've never seen one of these.

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Alex, you are special Jeffrey.

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If you've never seen one of these Ross things, you

8:34

would be shocked. But that's what they're

8:36

like.

8:37

This was I am not familiar with that. That

8:39

would have really that's

8:41

probably why I didn't.

8:42

Will didn't think just because it's

8:45

Tom Brady, it's all these like I didn't

8:47

think it was going to be like a real rose like

8:49

when.

8:50

Yeah, but I should have known.

8:51

That's what I was probably where I

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missed and what Alex said a few minutes

8:56

ago, it was kind of like a throwback

8:58

to a different time of comedy, and

9:00

maybe that's what I was figuring. Okay, yeah, I

9:02

know roasts like you know that they can get

9:05

vicious, but I was like, not anymore, right

9:07

because you just figured like, you can't do that anymore because

9:09

you're just gonna get canceled.

9:10

No, no, I mean these roasts,

9:13

all these Jeffrey Ross ones are they

9:15

are vicious.

9:16

They are vicious.

9:17

I'll have to check it out.

9:18

And it was funny because you could see the shift kind of

9:20

because Drew went up there and Drew was great

9:22

and made the jokes.

9:23

But then Nicki Glazier.

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Comes on and there was like the

9:28

i'd say the first half of her set If you look

9:30

at all the reactions of people in the background, they're

9:32

just like bewildered that this is even happening,

9:34

that they're hearing.

9:35

But then they start.

9:36

Loosening up and having more drinks, and Nicki's

9:38

set continues and gets crazier and

9:40

more outrageous and more outrageous, and

9:42

then from there it was just like we

9:45

lost control of the car and it's speeding,

9:49

but in a good way, the best.

9:51

Way I get it.

9:52

It's hard to walk away from something that's not your pregnant

9:54

girlfriend.

9:54

It's tough geez.

9:57

I mean. Then that's the thing too, is he was really

9:59

good.

10:00

These guys, they've had twenty five years

10:02

of on the big stage and all these things were

10:04

just waiting there to be made fun of. It was just so

10:06

so much comedy gold

10:08

that that people could have fun with going back

10:10

to you know everything I mean over

10:12

you know, like I said, twenty five years it's it's there's

10:15

not many things like that. You could do a roast where

10:17

everybody all right. There's a couple of things he had to divorce,

10:19

but this is like.

10:20

You That's why my

10:22

only complaint

10:27

three migos, That's why my only complaint. Other

10:29

than Gronk getting all the strays was.

10:32

And I understand why Netflix didn't have

10:34

matt Light to take a turn, because like, who's

10:37

matt Light. However, I don't think they

10:39

realized what they missed out on.

10:41

Yeah, he would have been good.

10:42

They had that row of you know, teammates

10:45

sitting behind. I thought Nate Solda was uncomfortable.

10:47

I think he was like at first, I thought all those

10:49

guys were going to get up.

10:51

I thought all those guys were going to.

10:52

Get up, and I'm like, oh man, this is I mean, if Randy

10:54

Moss can barely put it together, like what's Nate Solda

10:57

going to do?

10:57

They should have swapped out either Affleck or car

11:00

Ardashian, get rid of one of them and

11:02

throw it matt Light.

11:03

And I think it's a perfect way.

11:05

The Kardashian was like a minute,

11:07

you could see she got ship.

11:09

She got shook by getting Boo. You could

11:11

tell, like because everyone was just and then.

11:13

Affleck was like unhinged on

11:17

like.

11:17

That get unhinged by getting Booth.

11:21

I don't think because she's delusional, was

11:25

like let's go up. Yeah, I

11:27

think she's delusion.

11:28

You would think that she'd be used to getting booth because

11:30

she has to be pretty polarized.

11:31

In that setting. It's not it's not her people,

11:33

This isn't like you know, this isn't the eel.

11:35

But she was the only one.

11:37

Yeah, yeah, and where did

11:39

you Why did they get her?

11:40

I don't I still don't get how she fit.

11:43

There was a dating, there was like a rumor, there

11:46

was a little thing there, right, Yeah, So

11:48

they.

11:49

They were hanging out together in the Hamptons as

11:51

they went through their divorces together, and the friendship

11:54

was.

11:54

They were leaning on each other. I

11:57

don't know whatever.

11:59

But my theory about Affleck is that I

12:01

don't know if you guys are coke well one

12:04

coked out too.

12:05

I don't know if you guys are onto this.

12:06

But Jalo recently came out with a documentary

12:09

and she's getting so much hate for it

12:11

because she just comes off as super narcissistic

12:14

and totally delusional, and

12:17

so she's been getting a ton of

12:19

hate, especially on TikTok. So I'm

12:21

wondering, like, is Ben just like so enraged

12:23

about what's happening to his wife that like

12:26

he was going on a rant about

12:28

the commentors, really like

12:31

it was about Jennifer, not.

12:32

Tom the Keyboard Warriors, the audience,

12:35

as they say, and.

12:36

Then plus cocaine and jeering cocaine

12:39

in a way did that too.

12:40

He used his one minute to take a shot at Netflix.

12:43

Who did a white you

12:45

didn't see. I didn't care.

12:48

He was on the down list for what I heard,

12:50

you know, the ups and the down.

12:51

He was okay, that's fine for what he did.

12:53

He was fine, But he needed to be there for another

12:55

crucial joke that I don't know if it was Andrew

12:57

Schultz or Tony Hinchcliff making about

13:00

robbing a Brazilian at a half a purse.

13:02

That was all lost my mind.

13:04

That was a great line.

13:05

That was a great line.

13:08

I just lost my mind. I couldn't.

13:10

I just had to take a minute away.

13:11

I really did, like I.

13:12

Think, not to be dramatic, I think it

13:14

was good for the country.

13:15

I really do. I think we needed that last.

13:20

Bringing us back from the brink.

13:21

But but you know, going back to what you said

13:23

earlier, I think for Patriots fans this

13:26

was cathartic. It was.

13:28

It was kind of a lot of the stuff I hoped I would get

13:30

out of the dynasty, like the closure. Yeah,

13:32

like and that that Scotch

13:34

the itch for me.

13:35

It did.

13:35

Even the Dynasty got shots taken at it,

13:37

which I mean it was a great joke. Yeah

13:40

it was. It was good stuff. So you

13:42

know, if people want to comment on it, uh,

13:46

free to do so.

13:48

For people who hated it, I mean we just have.

13:52

Those are the very publicly hated it.

13:54

Like I can understand Aaron is not, but

13:57

why were you watching? Like why would

13:59

you want to have anything to do?

14:01

Also like to say, like my daughter's gonna

14:03

my daughter her dad was her hero and

14:05

now this is It's like.

14:09

She's probably all this. Like

14:11

I feel like I saw I didn't see one second.

14:14

And I feel like every single

14:16

one of the stories you guys have just told

14:18

I have either seen on Twitter or

14:20

heard the clips on the radio.

14:22

I don't think Gizelle cheating on Tom got

14:24

enough airwave though I think

14:26

her PR team has some friends

14:28

that it seemed like such a quick like little

14:30

TMZ.

14:31

Friday news dump never got any play.

14:34

But that's why I think like this was a roast about

14:36

Tom Brady, but I really think it was a roast about

14:38

Giselle. And I mean, your

14:41

actions have consequences, tomb

14:52

and like Tom's last line

14:54

of that roast is the true love

14:56

of my life.

14:58

Football. That's the last thing.

14:59

He sa.

15:00

I don't know I read into that stuff, but.

15:03

You know, and and if you look at the credits, Tom

15:05

was up there as execut one of the executive

15:07

producers, So we had something

15:09

to do with the making.

15:10

Of this thing, you know, getting some of the money out

15:12

of it too.

15:13

Yeah, g

15:15

z L.

15:17

However, I highly

15:19

recommend it if you want to. I assume Netflix

15:22

is showing it. You know, you can see

15:24

at any time. Yeah, just

15:26

you know, if you got the kids in the room now ear muffs.

15:29

Yeah, definitely mature audiences only

15:31

I would especially when.

15:33

Yeah, and according to Mike Florio,

15:36

Tom Brady admitted to the flight gate during

15:38

but you know, because everything else was

15:41

a joke except that.

15:42

The most humor humorless person in

15:44

football.

15:46

Yeah, that is really dumb.

15:48

So we get that and then back

15:51

to football, although this was football related.

15:53

But Thursday, Friday, and Saturday is

15:55

the rookie minicamp and we'll be

15:57

there with bells on. In terms of content, new

16:00

content throughout that. Excited

16:04

to get to see you know, the guys out in the field.

16:07

I don't even know if you guys have because

16:09

I remember one of my favorite things when I was a blogger

16:11

boy was wait for these rookie pictures

16:13

to come out because you guys know me, I like numbers and helmets,

16:16

so I would always do like a rookie eyeball test

16:18

post. But I don't remember seeing these

16:20

lately, Like I don't remember really a lot of

16:22

content coming out of I mean, we're

16:24

supposed to watch practice on Saturday, but I even remember

16:27

in recent years not really seeing much of anything.

16:28

Well it's it's really not much.

16:30

I mean, you know, helmets and numbers,

16:32

that's all I need.

16:33

The practice itself is

16:35

like an hour. It's it's not your

16:37

typical.

16:38

This is how we warm up you guys, get on that line

16:40

and lift writing

16:43

down like.

16:43

They're showing you what the process is,

16:46

what the routine will be, and.

16:47

Can we keep stats of the stats today.

16:50

I will guarantee somebody, I

16:52

guarantee you.

16:54

And lift his leg really hot.

16:55

Right right, great,

16:59

the whole tae.

17:00

Yeah, but not Joe Milton Man. He

17:02

can bend down and touch a tells no problem.

17:05

You know.

17:05

There'll be some plays that are you know, like some

17:07

basic plays that are sitting you know, like so

17:10

they can sort of that. This is

17:12

something that that Bill really credited Brady

17:14

with was his ability to sort of

17:16

take control of that group his

17:18

his rookie year, I almost said his freshman year, his rookie

17:21

year, and that

17:23

sort of showed him some leadership and potential.

17:26

Get them ready because they do this now, so that when the whole

17:28

team's there, they're not they're not for the first

17:30

time.

17:30

And they're not keeping everybody behind right

17:33

right.

17:33

And then our first ota full team, well

17:35

it's on full team, it's still voluntary, we guess. But May

17:37

twenty Monday, May twentieth, then, so

17:40

week after two weeks from yesterday, So that's

17:43

when these guys will.

17:43

Be Le'll be interested to see Gerrod Mayo for the

17:45

first time as head coach out there.

17:48

Like what's his demeanor? Yeah, you know,

17:50

how how does he present himself?

17:51

How does he twirl?

17:52

The twirl the what's his thing? You

17:55

know?

17:55

Yeah?

17:56

Does he float around from position to position to

17:58

gravitate towards the defense a little bit? Is it

18:00

Alex Van Pelt show?

18:02

You know?

18:03

On offenses? You know, where do those guys go? Those

18:05

I mean little things, but I love this stuff.

18:07

I mean it's you know, you don't build it up too much as

18:09

like we're going to watch football, but it's

18:11

just a chance to sit outside and watch some of these guys

18:13

just move around a little bit.

18:14

So I still think it's it's interesting.

18:16

Also, there's a report, not

18:19

that we didn't know, but the official

18:21

search for Nobody Wants

18:23

Dinner, general manager or head of football

18:25

Operations, whatever you want to call it is,

18:28

has started.

18:28

According to Jonathan Jones. Yeah,

18:31

simply by that one.

18:32

Simply right, simply by asking does

18:34

that fulfill a need to you know,

18:36

I think they have to with the they have to do that.

18:38

But if some if you ask.

18:39

Somebody and they're like, thanks,

18:41

does that update.

18:42

To that story?

18:42

There?

18:42

There was someone from the there's two people who

18:45

turned them down, one

18:47

of which was from the Cardinals, and

18:49

I think one was where the other.

18:51

One Cray Brown and I

18:54

forget the other one.

18:55

Yeah, Trey Brown was was today.

18:58

So yeah, I mean I did not see that.

18:59

Okay, but everything sounds like everyone expects

19:01

it to be Elliot Wolf, which I think, you know.

19:04

I would think why would, but I would think that's why people

19:06

are turning it down.

19:07

Right, They're like, we get it, We're not going to be right

19:09

we're not.

19:10

I'm not going to be your chara.

19:13

That was well, wells going to be a pawn

19:15

in your charade.

19:16

Yeah.

19:17

The other one was Quentin Harris, former Cardinals

19:19

VP of player Personnel.

19:20

Yeah, so I mean

19:23

I don't know, it's like, how bad of like how badly

19:25

could it have gone for them to.

19:26

Be like Elliott? No?

19:28

No, no, you really would

19:30

have so far you would all have to be like f

19:32

draft, you know. I mean there's still are people giving him

19:35

fs, but I mean reasonably, I

19:37

don't know how bad you could have screwed that up to lose

19:39

the job at that point.

19:40

I mean, yeah, you know, the only way that he doesn't

19:43

get it is this stuff that happened that we don't

19:45

even have a clue about it. And it's not the outward

19:48

things. It's relationship.

19:51

Yeah, it's you know, screwing things.

19:53

Is not collaborating.

19:54

Well, but we would

19:56

have heard about playing with.

19:57

Others, you know.

19:58

So I think it's a done deal.

19:59

Yeah. I think it seems like everybody

20:01

else thinks that too.

20:02

That The question is what will his title be? Probably

20:05

not general manager?

20:07

So why is that do you think?

20:09

I don't know.

20:10

I I think that.

20:13

General manager I guess cannotes,

20:17

you know, overall like I'm in charge of everything,

20:19

and I don't think that's the way the crafts want

20:21

it.

20:22

You know, VP player personnel appeal.

20:24

Title can well connote whatever you want

20:26

it to.

20:26

True. True, But

20:29

but I think general

20:31

manager.

20:32

I think I think general managers just

20:34

too broad for their liking, and I

20:36

think they want something that pinpoints what

20:39

their responsibility is. So vice president

20:41

of player Personnel or football

20:43

operations or was that what.

20:46

Get that title officially or I think he did

20:48

eventually.

20:48

Yeah, I think they were Director

20:51

player Personnel. Yeah, and I'm

20:54

curious with Mike. Does

20:57

that satisfy any

20:59

kind of search? Yeah, if you can't

21:01

get anybody to try, if you

21:03

can't get anybody to come in and interview, like,

21:05

what do you have to do?

21:07

Pick up some guys off something?

21:09

Random?

21:09

Guy, where's

21:12

the loophole?

21:14

Tell us about your experience I work at the car wash.

21:17

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I

21:19

wouldn't be surprised if people

21:21

don't want to do it, because I mean, just look at

21:23

the whole way it's unfolded.

21:25

Well, it's like you're gonna get paraded out, have to take

21:27

a flight, probably go through this process

21:29

when you know, it's someone else's job already.

21:31

It's got to be someone to convince themselves like, well, this is

21:33

good experience for me.

21:34

To get out.

21:35

Yeah, that's what they say, is you know, go anyway

21:37

just to get the reps.

21:39

You know?

21:41

Was that so that's like Girod and the Crafts and

21:43

that's who it's not. Obviously it's not Ellie Wolf

21:45

interviewing them. But it don sound

21:47

like they were interested in maybe hiring

21:49

someone additional too, like it wasn't necessarily.

21:52

Well, so who would you have taken it?

21:56

We knew drake Man for two months, but

21:59

yeah, I don't know.

22:00

I mean, it's it's just it always felt

22:02

weird to me when they said, like this is how it's going to be kind of

22:04

set up, but we're going to reevaluate things after the draft,

22:06

so I don't know. I'd like to just try

22:09

to get this thing wrapped up with and give Elliot Wolf

22:11

an official title and get everything.

22:13

And as I read, there's a lot of jobs

22:16

in Limbo until this gets

22:18

done.

22:18

Yeah, scouting people too.

22:20

I mean sometimes those guys go after draft, right,

22:22

like that's the time when you Yeah.

22:23

It all depends on contract

22:26

status too. Yeah, I mean, and if

22:28

if they were going to hire someone different, which

22:30

I think we all agree we don't anticipate.

22:34

Yeah, I would think all of those guys would be open.

22:37

Yeah, yep, all

22:39

right, what else?

22:40

So we got so thirst mini

22:42

camp, We've got GM.

22:44

Search, minor move. They shrunk

22:47

the quarterback room by one. They let

22:49

go of Nathan Rourke, which Mike

22:52

and I are not overly disappointed in because

22:54

we deal with the mail bag every week and

22:56

I would say at least at least one a week

23:00

that they wasted a pick at three with Drake

23:02

May because they have Nathan Rooke roster. I'm

23:05

not I'm not exaggerating.

23:08

Mister, And this is Rourke maybe maybe

23:11

Aunt Rourke something or

23:13

someone.

23:14

He's that kid's been in the community, like doing

23:16

events with Donna's team every day, like

23:18

probably.

23:19

Two weeks leading up to the draft too.

23:21

You think when you met, you know they've got four

23:24

right now? Do you think, like Bailey's

23:26

happy, for example, do you keep him just

23:28

through camp just to have four quarterbacks?

23:30

Or I think you have to see.

23:31

I mean, I think you got to see with Milton how much he

23:33

really gets it. I mean, I think it's a possibility

23:36

that Milton gets cut and you know, maybe it's

23:38

back on the practice squad.

23:40

Sorry, I mean at the risk of drawing

23:42

anyone's hire. I mean, yeah, but.

23:44

You gotta, you know, you got to make sure you got another

23:46

guy. And I don't know.

23:48

I mean, I I preset and is

23:50

a great piece at the top. I think that just sets the tone.

23:52

You've got some leadership there, you know. I

23:55

don't think it's the worst thing in the world if at some point

23:57

it's just Drake May and and Prissett,

23:59

and you know, even if if May is starting.

24:03

But I mean there's a possibility.

24:05

I mean, I think that there was an immediate

24:08

report after the draft that there was like

24:11

some efforts to trade ZAPPI. I'm

24:13

not sure you know what kind of trade

24:15

value he has, but I

24:17

would hold on to him, at least

24:19

in the short term, just because of that. Like,

24:22

if you don't want to play Drake May,

24:25

let's just say that they

24:27

you know, want to sit him.

24:29

Yep.

24:29

So it's it's easy you have Brissett. Well,

24:31

what if something happens to Brissett and you want

24:34

to sit Drake May. Yeah, at least you have

24:36

a guy who's started. I don't know, twelve

24:38

games in his career. It's better

24:41

than the alternative. You know, if

24:43

you don't in the alternative would be you don't

24:45

want to play your rookie third overall

24:47

pick, and now you have to because you don't have

24:49

any options, right right.

24:50

Persi gets hurt in training camp and you're like, what the hell

24:52

is?

24:52

So I would hold on to Zappi at least initially,

24:56

and you know, maybe he plays well in training

24:58

camp, maybe he gets him some

25:01

preseason success,

25:04

and all of a sudden someone loses a backup

25:06

or something and you can get

25:08

a you know, a late round.

25:09

Pick for him.

25:10

Now we know, we know Jacoby Brissett's that, you

25:12

know, he seems to be a good teammate,

25:15

good leader. But is there any chance that Bailey's

25:17

app is a better quarterback.

25:20

Than Brissette?

25:21

Yeah, I would say no.

25:23

I think it's pretty close. I looked at the numbers.

25:25

Obviously Brissette has way more

25:27

experience, but at

25:30

their best, they're kind of the same.

25:31

Yeah, So just thrown

25:34

that out there.

25:35

We'll see.

25:36

I mean, it's it's it's gonna just

25:38

be interesting to me how they divide up the reps and get

25:40

a look at all these guys, and you know, it's

25:42

it's you have a new offense, so everybody

25:44

needs reps. And I mean, Jacoby Brissette is supposed

25:47

to be the starter. So you know, how much of a chance

25:49

does Bailey's Appy even really get?

25:50

I mean, is he gonna be.

25:51

Kind of the forgotten man during you

25:53

know, when the people you're really interested to see, he's

25:55

probably last, even though he's probably

25:57

third in the draft pick. You know, So

25:59

it's it's, uh, you got to get Brissett ready.

26:01

You want to see May start develop. You're starting

26:04

to like pour into Joe Milton and see,

26:06

you know, if he can start to put anything together. So

26:08

it's it's gonna be a hard position I think for Bailey z Appy

26:10

to you know, kind of make make the most

26:12

of his chances because I don't know how how many high

26:15

quality reps he's gonna get, especially if there's

26:17

like a joint practice or something. You're going live nobody

26:19

wants to see Bailey's Appy be sorry, buddy, but you

26:22

know, you want to see how the first offense looks, and then

26:24

you want to see how Drake May developing.

26:26

Could Joe Milton figure out an offense? Can he you know,

26:28

look like if let's take.

26:29

Fred's hypothetical another step, because you know,

26:31

I just like to throw out there, what

26:33

if he's better than Brissette? What if

26:35

Fred's hypothetical.

26:36

Is It's interesting because

26:38

I mean I think I probably have to come at it

26:41

like, man, Brissette's been really bad,

26:43

you know, like I like, that's how I think it would have to start

26:45

for me.

26:46

I mean, I know, has anybody watched Jakobet?

26:49

Well, I'm just saying to get to that point, you know, it's it's

26:52

hard to say, like, how could Bailey Zappy

26:54

look better than Brissett if he's

26:56

barely practicing or doing anything, you know, like

26:58

so like like I'm just saying.

27:01

So you're saying, because he won't have a chance to like

27:03

I think this. I think Fred's thing is not

27:05

all that far fetched. I think Brissett's

27:07

better. I think he's better, but

27:10

not by much. Yeah, I mean, I don't think

27:12

he'll get an opportunity to sort of

27:14

like have us

27:16

magpies in the tent saying

27:19

wow, he's I mean Zapi,

27:21

they might as well go with ZAPPI he's better.

27:23

Yeah, you know, like.

27:24

I don't think they'll they'll give us enough opportunities

27:27

to see that. I agree with you on that much.

27:29

Hard hard to get to that point. But you

27:31

also wonder, like, what's what's this offense

27:33

going to be like for Zapi? I mean, maybe he's better in it,

27:35

you know, maybe maybe that's a little bit more comfortable.

27:38

If you're the pages, do you leak it out that he is

27:41

doing well just to raise his value in the

27:43

trade market.

27:44

I mean, I just think, and we talk

27:46

about it all the time drafting quarterbacks, it's good

27:48

business trying to you know, unload

27:50

a quarterback that you might not need for assets.

27:52

Like I just I think you should constantly be in

27:54

that club. Now, the Joe Milton thing that might be a little

27:56

bit a little bit extreme in that end, but I

27:58

just think generally, if you're developing quarterbacks,

28:00

you've got quarterbacks to offer the rest.

28:02

Of the league. It's it's a good thing for everybody. So

28:05

I just I would be very cautious.

28:06

I mean I was cautious with Mac Jones too, Like, as

28:08

bad as he was and as much as I thought it

28:11

was broken here, you just you don't want to be

28:13

flippant about an asset at that at that position,

28:15

you know, And that's when we get into the Milton stuff.

28:17

That's the only place where I can kind.

28:18

Of live and be like, okay, Like, the

28:20

most important thing to the Patriots is not that Drake May develops

28:23

a quarterback.

28:23

The most important thing to the Patriots that they find a quarterback,

28:26

come hell or high water.

28:27

You know, it doesn't have to be necessarily Drake May.

28:29

But you know, we don't have to get into all

28:31

the you know, the psychological elements of that.

28:33

But I think that is the bottom line. Though this team

28:35

needs a quarterback.

28:36

All right, anything else league wide we need to just

28:38

put on the table.

28:39

You can do that.

28:40

First we talk about the schedule, schedule

28:42

next week.

28:43

It seems like it doesn't seem like next week seems

28:45

like it, right, And that's what Florio said.

28:46

Yeah, well, hey, Patriots fans, if

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29:00

that we've never gone on the Brady Roast, I

29:03

mean wow.

29:04

I mean, Nikki Glazer definitely went to some of those places.

29:06

All right, Okay,

29:08

so we might as well get to the listeners, right sure,

29:11

Yeah, I mean, I mean, I mean I will.

29:13

To Paul's point, the schedule next week, I mean, I think that's

29:15

an interesting thing. There's definitely some some interesting.

29:18

Continue to talk about London, Reese

29:21

throughout the possibility of a West

29:23

Coast well, Arizona, San Francisco,

29:25

twin Bill. So staying out in the West for

29:28

a week.

29:29

You said, we're like the Beatles in London London,

29:31

right, Paul? Is that I mean? Maybe I was?

29:34

I mean, yeah, I was. I was, Paul.

29:37

Paul and Andy wouldn't come out from behind the velvet

29:40

rope.

29:40

I did, and wouldn't He made me go and

29:42

get the beer all the time.

29:44

But then you don't want to talk to these people.

29:46

They talk funny,

29:48

But.

29:49

These are your people. Go talk to them, correct.

29:51

And I would go out and I would start talking, and then sure

29:54

enough people would just bringing me beers. It was like the greatest

29:56

thing ever, like a hot girl at the bar. I

29:59

don't know what the hot pot.

30:03

People just hot back then, tell you

30:05

how great I love you.

30:07

I still had my fastball back then.

30:09

All right, eight five five past five hundred is the

30:11

ACE ticket houtline. Web radio at patriot dot

30:14

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30:16

are stacking up, so let's get to them. Nelson's

30:19

in La.

30:19

What's up? Nelson?

30:22

Hey Nelson? Hello?

30:24

What's time today?

30:28

That it doesn't really matter?

30:30

Yeah, I'm doing good man.

30:32

I enjoyed that comedy thing

30:34

this weekend.

30:35

I went to it.

30:36

It was fun.

30:36

Oh you were there?

30:38

Yes?

30:39

Oh wow? How what tell us what that

30:41

was like?

30:42

My favorite party? When she said I

30:45

can't believe you fall bitcoin.

30:48

O morning, that

30:51

was great.

30:52

It was a great.

30:53

But I'm more interested like being

30:55

in the arena.

30:56

What was that like?

30:58

It was nice?

30:59

It was It was good.

31:00

I liked it, Like for me to not

31:03

not to see Tom.

31:03

Brady and everybody play because I'm from

31:06

Los Angeles, I could never go and see Tom

31:08

Brady play.

31:09

So for me it was good.

31:10

It was like a birthday gift for me.

31:11

How much did it cost to get in? If you don't mind me asking?

31:14

My ticket was one sixty?

31:16

Okay, that's not bad.

31:18

Yeah, it was good. I liked it. Yeah, the Dynasty.

31:21

Was right there, Bronk, I was I didn't even I was

31:23

surprised that Bronk.

31:24

And Bill better take an out of.

31:26

Them right there.

31:27

Yeah, it was well, so

31:31

I know they were drinking down there, but where you were sitting,

31:33

like, you know, was there food

31:35

and stuff like was it like a normal sporting

31:38

event.

31:38

Yeah, to drink minimum.

31:40

Yeah that food that had drink the hell.

31:42

That's great. That's awesome.

31:44

It was good.

31:45

It was the chairs were comfortable. Everything was nice.

31:47

That's that's cool.

31:48

They're like souvenirs or anything that t shirts.

31:51

Yeah.

31:51

Hey, I love your podcast. I always listen

31:54

to y'all, even though I don't call most of the time.

31:55

But you know, Patriots all the way.

31:57

All right, thanks Nelson.

31:58

Sounds like he wanted to go.

31:59

Thank you.

32:01

Raised in Atlanta. What's that right?

32:03

That's really cool.

32:05

Ray.

32:06

It's like.

32:10

You get to refill.

32:13

I guess Ray's gone, Ray,

32:16

Ray, people will come raise gone.

32:19

People will definitely.

32:22

Ford in Savannah.

32:24

Uh, that's that's Georgia, right,

32:27

says I love the Rose. It had me cracking up. It's

32:29

a testament to how great all these guys

32:32

are. It felt like Festivus,

32:34

a great airing of grievances. Gronk's

32:37

glass shot spike being the fear of

32:39

strength or the feet of strength. These

32:41

guys have done everything as good as they have ever done

32:43

all down the line, and this was another example

32:45

of that. Takes humor and real humility

32:48

for all these guys to do this. Who else

32:50

has climbed to the very top of the profession and

32:53

been opened to put it all

32:55

out there publicly? Can't say enough how

32:57

much I respect all of them.

33:00

Okay, yeah, yeah,

33:02

we.

33:03

Were talking that a little bit about that yesterday, just how

33:05

like who else could

33:07

create this effect?

33:08

And like what other athlete?

33:10

And I don't think.

33:12

Bill Simmons had a good point on

33:14

his show about how like you couldn't

33:16

really do it with an NBA player because their egos

33:19

are so big, Like it would be hard to get the

33:21

right guy and to do it.

33:22

The way they did it yesterday.

33:24

Durant, right, Kevin

33:29

Durant.

33:31

In the opening credits.

33:32

He wouldn't be able to wait for his turn. He would just be sealing

33:35

the mic to clap back at everyone.

33:37

Drake and Kendrick.

33:38

Yeah right, Wow, that's the whole thing.

33:41

Huh, that's pretty funny.

33:43

Yeah, Evan was breaking it down for me

33:45

up up above.

33:45

Oh yeah, I got enough of that at

33:48

home Alec in Connecticut.

33:51

Did anyone else feel like they finally got closure

33:53

after the roast. We talked about that earlier. I've

33:55

been waiting for this. I thought the roast

33:57

was very good. And I give a lot of credit to Bill

34:00

for all these appearances he's doing. Side

34:02

question in ten years, could Brady be the coach

34:04

of the Patriots?

34:05

No? No, no, so

34:08

I saw on of

34:12

course this NBC Sports Boston. If

34:14

you're got the Celtics show anymore,

34:16

I don't do that one. Yeah, I don't do

34:19

that. I think I I aged

34:21

out.

34:21

Of the demography like

34:23

you no more.

34:24

But I heard Holly

34:27

and Felger a sort of getting

34:29

into their show and they let off

34:31

with the roast, and and Holly

34:33

just continuing something that Fred and I have been talking

34:35

about a lot, like with the Wickersham stories

34:38

and all that stuff. It's just like it

34:40

was another validation of all

34:42

of the stuff that we've talked about for ten

34:45

fifteen years of being accurate.

34:47

Yeah, and so like Mike's point

34:49

about there being a little bit of a cathartic nature,

34:51

like if you didn't

34:54

believe that this stuff was really

34:57

real like all along, then

35:00

was very cathartic for you because now you've finally

35:02

accepted it, right, So now you can move on.

35:04

But like I don't know if

35:06

you if you haven't, if you if you didn't get it from

35:09

watching the documentary and

35:11

you didn't get it from reading you know, five

35:14

different ESPN expose

35:16

is then I'm not sure you'll ever

35:19

gonna you're ever gonna get it until they finally

35:21

said it themselves, and now you can sort

35:23

of move on. For those of you don't know, Alex

35:25

is the snake oil salesman who transformed

35:27

Tom into a total fucking weirdome.

35:31

It was a good line, good line.

35:34

Uh, it'd be interesting to me how

35:36

this kind of feeds into June twelfth

35:38

too. And you know, this is almost like we

35:41

all like kind of got some stuff out and hopefully

35:43

June twelfth becomes more, you know, kind of celebration

35:46

you want.

35:47

To give the We had the Brady Roast, now

35:49

we'll have the Brady Toast.

35:54

Yeah, he works shopped at a little bit.

35:55

But I believe you. I believe you.

35:58

Now we have the Brady Day coming here on June

36:00

twelfth. It'll be very different than what we

36:03

watched Sunday night, but

36:05

it's going to be a great another great

36:07

event for Tom. Yeah, the few

36:10

surprises. I don't want to give it away, but

36:13

hopefully.

36:13

Every bid as much fun

36:15

and a lot of the same personalities. Yeah,

36:18

that's uh, the Summer

36:21

of Brady, the Spring of Brandy continues.

36:23

Uh being Fresno curious if Evan watched

36:25

the Roast? Did he watch he did, or

36:28

if he's too much of a football guy to be bothered

36:30

with him music.

36:31

Well, I will say I saw one tweet

36:33

from Evan and it was the lamest tweet ever,

36:35

and I'll say it to him when he gets here. You

36:37

know, the best line of the night was

36:40

Bill Belichick saying that Rodney Harrison should be in

36:42

the Hall of Fame. That was the biggest joke

36:44

of the night, is that Rodney's not in the Hall of Fame.

36:46

That's got the football coming. That's your takeaway

36:48

from from what everybody agrees

36:51

is one of the more entertaining nights

36:53

that they've seen.

36:54

Bill had like six jokes he likes

36:56

ball.

36:57

That's not actually a joke.

36:58

Football related, Joe.

37:00

I think that Bill had was when obviously

37:03

him and Danny avint Dol have some animosity

37:05

and Danny's been taking his shots

37:08

respectively, and clearly Bill is listening

37:10

because it took Bill three sentences to

37:12

just destroy Dannyman.

37:13

Oh yeah, just about his production.

37:15

It was so funny.

37:16

I loved it,

37:18

he says. Sometimes I wonder if Evan is as allergic

37:21

to fun as Eric was. Anyway, Nicki

37:23

Glazer was amazing.

37:26

Yeah, absolutely, big winner, I would

37:28

say from Sunday Night was Nicky Glazer.

37:30

Yeah.

37:30

By the way, I heard Eric got a job communications

37:33

director for like the mayor. I don't

37:35

know that the mayor of Providence, like or the

37:37

mayor of a smaller.

37:39

Really, ye can't be small town

37:41

mayor can't have gotten a job

37:44

of Providence. Hold on, I

37:46

thought there was a I was waiting for the punch. I

37:49

was waiting for the toast and the roast like

37:51

I was waiting for the rest.

37:53

Who's Mayor Smiley.

37:56

That's Providence guy Smiley.

37:58

So he oh he's uh,

38:01

Eric as director of communications

38:04

for Mayor Smiley.

38:05

So he's in like.

38:06

The West wing of Providence. If they made

38:08

a West Wing, he would be a prominent character.

38:10

Eric Scalavino I really

38:13

thought that I was safe in not being passed by

38:15

by that one, but had another one

38:17

to the list.

38:20

Well, you think communications director

38:22

is bigger than the job you have right now.

38:24

Yes, I'm sure it pays more. Okay,

38:27

I'm not sure about that, but anyway, I'm sure it

38:29

has the ability to earn more in the future

38:31

as well, which I don't have.

38:33

Yeah, but that's pretty cool.

38:35

I mean it's got some notoriety too, Like Paul.

38:37

I mean, you know, people walk around and like, hey,

38:39

is that Eric Scalavino, like from Pete

38:42

No, from the mayor's office.

38:43

He's a powerful man. Yeah, he runs

38:45

he runs the show.

38:46

He's gonna be running like the press conferences.

38:48

Of the don't you feel like Providence is gonna somehow hate

38:50

him at some point.

38:52

He's gonna he's gonna be like staunch for

38:54

something that's completely unpopular, and he's like they

38:56

just.

38:57

Vegetables to deal with it, Like, you know, like who

39:00

is this guy?

39:01

I'm so excited for this.

39:02

He's gonna be on w p R O now giving interviews.

39:04

Oh wow, Oh that's great.

39:06

It's like Rhode Island, like I will call in.

39:09

It's not like one of those shows where they grill you and they put

39:11

you, you know, and you have to like take.

39:12

Political stands and stuff.

39:14

Good for Eric. That's sounds like.

39:18

Stuff to do with cats. Probably there'll be some kind

39:21

of like initiative with cats.

39:22

Oh yeah, they're going to start

39:25

a whole new nobody asking.

39:26

Them about And so we understand, Eric, you're

39:28

also writing a book about Africa. Tell us

39:30

more about this, right, it's been

39:33

in the works for twenty years.

39:37

Sneaky, sneaky.

39:40

I couldn't help it. It's the whole thing, is a

39:42

whole thing. Just picture Eric. Suddenly Fred and I

39:44

are right out there.

39:45

Everybody's in the stick shouts that we take you.

39:47

I lay in the weeds.

39:49

You know, you don't even realize that all of a sudden, naked

39:52

right in the head. There you go.

39:54

All right?

39:54

Eight five five pats five hundred is the ACE ticket

39:57

hutline web radio at patries dot

39:59

com.

40:01

Let's see.

40:01

Ashton writes in do you guys think

40:03

now that Belichick is gone, well, Drake may

40:06

have to earn his number in training

40:08

camp by starting with the number fifty like we've done

40:10

in the past. Oh nope, we already know these number.

40:12

Ten correct, And I

40:14

would I'm gonna die on the hill on

40:16

this. That bill did

40:18

that to mess with the media, not to make

40:21

rookie's earned numbers really completely

40:23

convinced of it. Just all of a sudden,

40:26

you know, sixteen years into his tenure,

40:28

he starts giving rookies numbers in

40:30

the fifties. I

40:32

think that was an attempt to optu

40:34

skip if you remember, it started

40:37

in the spring with no numbers on the jerseys

40:40

at all. The first

40:42

yet, they had no numbers at

40:44

all for anybody,

40:47

veteran or rookie. And then of

40:49

course Fred insert

40:52

name here complained to PFWA.

40:55

Yep, and they put numbers on

40:57

and they said, I'll show them the

41:00

rookies all had these numbers.

41:02

But it took us I don't know, thirty

41:05

five seconds to realize the sequence that they

41:07

went in. Right, Oh, it's just so right,

41:09

So you figured it out.

41:10

But I don't think it was about the media.

41:13

I mean, why else would you have no numbers

41:15

at all for anybody?

41:16

Because I think that, you know, he was

41:18

maybe sensing that these guys are coming in

41:20

with more attitude than they used to cut to do,

41:23

and you know, I want to make sure that

41:25

they realize that. You know, you have to earn

41:28

every everything with a capital

41:30

E, not just your job, but everything.

41:32

You were in the majority.

41:34

Okay, you are in the majority. I am in the minority.

41:37

I mean the Cowboys. You're not even allowed to have the star

41:39

in your helmet, and that's been the tradition

41:41

forever.

41:42

Incorrect. He didn't just invent it, like seventeen

41:44

years in. That's why I don't buy it.

41:47

Yeah, but I don't know, Maybe I

41:49

buy it.

41:50

I think he was annoyed with the amount of attention

41:53

that we were giving those guys

41:56

and he wanted them to earn that attention before,

41:58

which I think is why they started. I mean

42:00

for years, they had rookie mini

42:02

camp open for a long time. Yeah,

42:05

and then they stopped. I think it's

42:07

all part and parcel to that.

42:09

I don't know.

42:09

I think I think he might have been a little prescient

42:11

and he could see what was coming

42:13

with these kids coming out of college, and he wanted

42:16

to make sure that once you get here, you

42:19

know you're starting from scratch.

42:21

So, Evan, you've been on the show now for fifteen

42:24

seconds, so I want to come clean. I took

42:26

a rocket shot at you for your tweet about Rodney

42:28

Harrison and Bill Belichick. I

42:30

just thought that was your takeaway familiar before

42:33

the.

42:33

Twitter people be like, oh, oh

42:35

okay.

42:36

So I thought that was the lame.

42:40

Okay, well I think you found the one football thing.

42:42

You highlighted the one.

42:44

Someone so to give you all the

42:46

background. Someone wrote it and said did ever actually

42:48

watch the or was there just not enough football

42:50

in it for him?

42:51

I go, well, that's fun Well it's

42:53

funny because earlier

42:55

in the day Jess asked me, She's like, we're gonna

42:57

watch the Roast and I was like, no, I don't want to watch the Rose.

43:00

I don't have time for that.

43:01

Uh and what were you doing Sunday

43:04

night?

43:04

It didn't break?

43:05

I was watching getting there, you know I

43:07

I I didn't at first. I

43:09

was like, there's not enough like nerd football

43:11

stuff for me, Like it's jokes, like I don't have time for

43:14

Yeah, and then there was nothing on

43:16

and there was nothing on on Sunday nights. I was like,

43:18

all right, final, like we can turn it on. And

43:20

within five minutes I was like, oh, I'm so glad we're

43:23

watching this Like this is I.

43:24

Had any idea it was going to be that

43:27

funny. I would have absolutely watched it.

43:29

I just didn't think I hadn't. Oh

43:32

no, I'll see it. But now it's you know it mean,

43:34

it's obviously past the time, and I already feel

43:36

like I saw the whole thing. Yeah, because

43:38

everybody is talking about every joke, like

43:41

there's so many the original jokes

43:43

well and also changed.

43:47

You know, I'm destined to watch this and I'm going to say,

43:49

is that it she.

43:50

Won't watch Jaws? But you know the roast.

43:53

Laugh like that, watch it

43:55

can but it's not supposed to.

43:57

I'm not sure who enjoyed the roast more male Alex

43:59

or female out I

44:02

don't know.

44:05

When you watch it live, you see the cutaways

44:07

of the reaction and like, you

44:10

know, like.

44:13

I just thought, Kevin Hart said such

44:15

a great tone of like we're gonna

44:17

go there, like this is not gonna be a PC Rose,

44:20

like we are going to divorces

44:23

on the table. Everything is on the table

44:25

and we're just gonna go after it.

44:27

And you know, it was. It

44:30

was pretty good. There was a couple of acts that I I

44:32

felt like probably didn't need to happen,

44:34

but the people that I wanted to

44:36

see were great.

44:39

Evan you excited about Rooky Mini.

44:41

Camp, Yes, and no. I imagine

44:45

that the one hour that it sounds like we're

44:47

going to be out there for is gonna be a whole lot

44:49

of nothing. But I think it will

44:51

be good to to hear from people and we're

44:53

going to talk to We're gonna talk to Drake.

44:55

May it sounds like, But in

44:58

terms of the actual practice, I am ex expecting

45:00

this to be oh yeah, literally nothing

45:03

which.

45:04

Went out stress.

45:05

It'll be a crawl through.

45:07

If we get to like.

45:08

Setting up who goes where in the huddle, I think it would

45:10

be wow, Like that's as close to football.

45:12

I just want to see him throw the ball man, Like, you know,

45:14

it's just like in a live setting, you

45:16

know. And I understand we're not going to see pads and all

45:18

that obviously, but just

45:20

in terms of seeing I've

45:23

saw him at his pro day, but it would

45:25

be great to just get like we get one seven

45:27

on seven period or something, you know, just to

45:30

see us to see him actually

45:32

throw against competition and not just throw against

45:34

air, would be great.

45:35

Yep, all right,

45:38

Norman writes in earlier conversation about

45:40

Zappie and Prissette. They may be close

45:42

in terms of talent. I'm guessing they

45:44

brought in Jacoby to mentor Drake until he's

45:47

ready. I can't imagine Zappi is ready to mentor

45:49

anybody at this point, considering his lack

45:51

of experience.

45:52

I agree with you.

45:52

That's that's why he wants to play

45:54

like he wants to be the guy. Yeah, I

45:56

agree with that now mentality absolutely

45:59

similar or another.

46:01

Wait this real quick, why did you Why

46:03

didn't you like my Rodney Harrison tweet?

46:05

Because I just think everybody is like falling

46:07

all over them I didn't see it, so in full disclosure,

46:10

I saw your tweet. I saw your tweet. I didn't

46:12

see the ropes like everybody

46:14

was falling all over themselves, like this is the greatest

46:16

thing I've ever seen, and this is so funny,

46:19

and then every it's like the best

46:21

line of the night.

46:26

You think that was the best line of the night. It

46:28

wasn't.

46:29

It wasn't. It wasn't the funniest line of the night.

46:31

Of course not. No, he didn't true

46:34

the best was it the best line? And nothing

46:36

has been more true out of all the bs

46:38

that they was the

46:40

most truth that was spoken on that stage

46:43

was what the heck? With the probably

46:46

famine? Rodney Harrison love.

46:47

It and building because of me?

46:50

It loved every second of it.

46:52

Okay, so I didn't overstate

46:55

it. I did misrepresent it that I'm

46:57

owning what you said.

47:00

Eight five to five, pass five hundred. Let's

47:02

go all the way to Spain where

47:04

James is there? Hey James,

47:07

Hey.

47:07

Man, I have I have a

47:10

question here about our draft class. I

47:12

guess I'm wondering if we know anything

47:14

about this guy Marcella's dial, if

47:16

he has any potential move over top.

47:18

We kind of lacked that the

47:21

rangey over top safety

47:23

since.

47:23

Devin mccordy left.

47:24

And I really want to see

47:27

Dugger and.

47:30

The other guy.

47:31

They're trying to move the safety play closer

47:33

to the line.

47:34

Poo.

47:34

Yeah, they seem to be doing better there.

47:37

What do you guys think I would just say?

47:39

I actually I'm writing his profile. I talked

47:41

to the coach, Shane Biemer about him a little bit.

47:43

Doesn't really sound I did ask him that about, you know,

47:45

how versatile he is for the second are It didn't

47:47

sound like he really had a lot of high hopes

47:49

for him being a free safety type. But he did thought that he

47:51

did think that he can move around, you

47:54

know, at the cornerback position. He can play a little bit inside,

47:56

but you know, he played all outside at

47:58

at South Carolina. And you know, I said,

48:01

I said to him, I mean, I think there's an opportunity

48:03

for him, you know, I mean it's Isaiah Bolden

48:05

Alex position, like one of those

48:07

guys needs to come out. But I I

48:10

I agree though on the point just about free safety,

48:12

it's it's how's it gonna play out with Mapu kinda

48:14

is he going to get elevated at you know how I

48:17

just didn't like Dugger last year playing so far from the line of

48:19

scrimmage so much. It felt like it limited the amount

48:21

of plays he could make. And and really I think the perfect

48:23

fit was, you know, having a Darron Harmon,

48:25

you know, just a guy at them on the back end for

48:27

third downs, to to really let those guys, you know,

48:29

Peppers and and and and Dougger

48:32

rome and make plays and do what they do best.

48:34

Okay, do you think that's something Jonathan Jones

48:36

would switch over the top or do you see something

48:38

else on the roster?

48:39

And already I could.

48:41

See that a little bit on third they can afford

48:44

to.

48:44

But yeah,

48:46

yeah, I don't necessarily

48:48

understand the screaming

48:50

desire. I feel like we hear that a lot about Jonathan

48:52

Jones moving to free safety, and it's like he's

48:56

he's a really good corner and he's getting better,

48:58

right, Yeah, I mean he's he's probably

49:01

he's definitely. I mean, like we all love Gonzo,

49:04

but Gonzo's only played four NFL games

49:06

in his career so far. Like Jonathan

49:08

Jones is mister reliable for them in

49:10

that corner back room, And I just I don't know how

49:13

you where you turn if

49:15

if it's not him and Gonzo it being

49:17

the top two guys.

49:18

How was Gonzo by the way, he was good?

49:20

Yeah, he he was you know, deferred

49:23

to the coaching staff and the medical staff about

49:25

his shoulder and participation in

49:27

the off season and in OTAs

49:30

and stuff like that. It was weird though, because he

49:32

kind of caught himself because he sat down and he said, I'm

49:35

healthy, ready to go, and then later on

49:37

he was like, well, I'm not saying all that, you know, like

49:39

he's going to be a full participant in all that kind of stuff.

49:41

So we'll see, but it definitely

49:44

seems like he feels like he caught it in

49:46

the past, you know, the shoulder, and it

49:48

seems like he feels like he's ready to go.

49:50

Todd's in North Carolina. I hate Todd.

49:54

That's how you doing.

49:54

Okay, My question

49:57

for you is I've heard all sorts of different

50:00

reports from the draft, right and then I've

50:02

heard different rankings and stuff that listening

50:04

to Heart's New shown and they had a guest on

50:07

and he was saying, yeah, they're about thirty first is where

50:09

I ranked them out of the thirty two teams.

50:11

So just going into this year,

50:13

what do you think we should be expecting, Like, what should we be

50:16

happy with?

50:18

Uh?

50:19

Competitive team that's tough to beat and you

50:21

know, just that can score some points again

50:23

after last year. I mean that's you know, baseline

50:26

of it. But I don't know, everyone gets caught up in these

50:28

rankings right now. I think the Patriots

50:30

they've got some they've got some interesting

50:33

guys to me now that they didn't really have last

50:35

year. And that's what the hope is that these

50:37

young guys develop and sooner the better.

50:39

Yeah.

50:40

Yeah, So you're looking for

50:42

work to be done and building the team

50:44

a little bit further because I don't think they're like

50:46

I don't think they're a playoff team. I don't even know if they're a

50:48

five hundred team. But if they're competitive,

50:51

like you say, I think I will.

50:52

Be very happy.

50:54

Yeah, you'll know it when you see it.

50:55

Yeah, yeah, Yeah. I wouldn't get too much

50:57

caught up in the record in May.

51:00

Right at the moment, right now, I feel

51:02

like it's all about eye tests, like does Drake

51:05

may look like he can play? Does some of these receivers

51:07

look like they can play in the league, And then

51:09

we'll worry about playoffs and all that kind

51:11

of stuff.

51:11

Yeah.

51:12

I think that's the perfect way to look at it. Just

51:14

to have players on the team today

51:17

that are that are new, that weren't there last

51:19

year, that looked like they will be contributors. And

51:21

if that's the answer to that is yes, when we

51:23

get to like November December, I would say

51:26

that's a positive sign, I think.

51:28

I mean, I used to tease about this all all of

51:30

last year about the competitive and

51:33

I used to I used to I never said

51:35

the Patriots weren't competitive. I said

51:37

all games are competitive in the NFL.

51:40

For the most part, they were

51:42

competitive last year. They just lost every one of them,

51:45

right, So I'm not going to get tied up

51:47

in well, they only lost twenty

51:49

one seventeen, they're competitive.

51:52

But to Evan's point is

51:54

is Polk and Baker two

51:57

of your best three receivers. I think

51:59

that would be a really positive sign, right,

52:02

Yeah, you know, does Caden

52:04

Wallace have the ability to play left tackle? You

52:07

know, even if he's not starting right away, but you

52:10

watch him, you know, you watch him and he's playing

52:12

left tackle and when he plays, he's

52:14

not out of place. That's a positive sign. Now

52:16

you might go five and thirteen or whatever

52:19

that five and on twelve math

52:21

tough, But

52:24

does that is that better than last year?

52:26

I would say yes, yeah, if those things are

52:29

happening.

52:29

Yeah, you look at a team. You know, so many teams

52:32

that break out, it usually starts

52:34

at the tail end of the year before. Yeah,

52:36

like remembering like the Lions a couple of years ago, they

52:38

almost made the playoffs. I think they went on like a nice

52:40

winning streak at the end of the year and then they had

52:42

another good draft class that offseason, and

52:44

all of a sudden, now they're, you know, a team that's

52:46

for real. I feel like the same thing with the Patriots.

52:49

If their arrow is pointing upward and guys

52:51

are younger contributing, and Drake

52:53

May's playing and he looks the part, then

52:56

it might not be this year. But twenty twenty five might

52:58

be a year where they could start to talk

53:00

about playoffs really simplistic.

53:02

But Evan just hit it like if the quarterback

53:04

is playing in ascending as

53:07

you get down the stretch. Yeah,

53:09

yeah, I don't care what the record is. That's that's a

53:11

good sign.

53:11

I think I'm excited to see these receivers

53:13

because I'm realizing with Patriots training camp,

53:15

I've never really seen a good good receivers a Patriots

53:18

training camp.

53:18

Like we've seen him from other joint practices.

53:20

Certainly DeVante Adams was, you know, just

53:22

crazy to watch in practice, but you know,

53:24

I just.

53:25

There haven't been like DeVante Parker was

53:27

like the.

53:27

Crown jewel of their acquisitions

53:30

over the last few years when I've been here watching training

53:32

camp.

53:32

So I'm just so curious how Polk and

53:35

Bakers stand out. What do they That's a good point.

53:37

I had said. If they're like two of your best three receivers,

53:39

and you're right, that's probably not going to be good

53:41

enough.

53:42

Like these

53:45

guys are good where

53:47

it's like I've seen Nelson aguilor

53:49

I've seen Kendrick Bourne and they're they're fine,

53:51

you know, but I'd like to see somebody

53:53

not to say that any of those guys are going to be Devanta

53:55

Adams, but like that just jumps off the field

53:57

that you you look at that and you're like, this guy's a night

54:00

mayor. You can see it from one drill

54:02

watching it, and you know, Kender, those all

54:04

those other guys that I named, it's it's kind of up

54:06

or down and if they're in the right place

54:08

in the play, they'll make the catch and maybe they'll they'll

54:10

get you some extra yards.

54:11

But there were no real guys that I've seen in

54:13

training camp that were game changers

54:16

and oh geez, like this guy's a

54:18

problem.

54:18

Like I haven't experienced that yet as

54:21

a member of this, you know team

54:23

covering the Patriots.

54:24

I haven't seen it, I tell you, I said at last, But Baker's

54:26

attitude sort of intrigues me.

54:28

Like this guy thinks he's pretty good.

54:30

Yeah, he's got a little less and

54:32

you know, we'll see.

54:33

I know, I said boom er bus at the time. I know

54:35

some other people said that.

54:36

Too, but I mean, they just they

54:38

need a boom, they need they need to hit on one of these receivers

54:41

at some point.

54:41

This has been so long, yep, Mike

54:44

writes in he didn't like the roast, well,

54:47

he says, he said, a good

54:49

roast can be done without the vulgarity. The

54:51

F word is thrown around loosely and people

54:54

tend to laugh no matter the punchline.

54:55

Call me a prude.

54:57

But I never would have let my children or grandchildren

54:59

watch such vault. Gary class has

55:01

been thrown out the window. One man's opinion.

55:04

Again, though, I would never tell anybody how to

55:07

parent. Yeah, but I don't think you should be

55:09

let children

55:09

watch.

55:12

That was not for the children.

55:13

If Jeffrey Ross is involved, don't watch

55:16

if you're worried about that.

55:17

But I mean, I mean, it's

55:19

it's very disrespectful, you know what I

55:22

mean.

55:22

It was all he was specifically complaiming about

55:24

of everything else.

55:25

Yeah, no, all that. I mean, look, there was a lot of

55:27

there's a lot of sex jokes. Obviously there was

55:29

F words. The only time that I

55:31

felt like I was I it went

55:33

a little far from me just as a Jewish

55:36

person, we start bringing up Hitler and stuff like

55:38

that. I thought that entire set

55:40

between those two guys could have I was like,

55:42

I.

55:42

Cut down on the radio they played that and I

55:45

mentioned that to you guys yesterday. I just didn't fight. And

55:47

I can understand where you're coming from as a Jewish

55:49

person. Yeah, I just didn't. I don't. I didn't find

55:51

it funny.

55:53

What about Edelman's line about Jeffery

55:55

Ross.

55:55

Yeah, see that was like from Edelman

55:58

though, like you know, like we're

56:01

we're part of the club, you know what I mean. And

56:03

I just I don't know if those two guys are Jewish

56:05

or not. But don't

56:08

like be comparing people to Hitler. It's it's not even

56:10

funny like that. It wasn't

56:12

even funny.

56:13

I died more from Burt Krysler.

56:15

I mean, Chrysler does sound Jewish. Maybe he is a Jew,

56:18

but that's besides the point.

56:22

Let's see. Oh, this is a story

56:25

that I forgot who wrote it, but Calvin

56:27

Anderson, Chris. I

56:29

was wondering if you guys watched the video from

56:31

Calvin Anderson on his illness last year.

56:35

I did not. But he had malaria, Like

56:38

that's like not your run of the mill, like

56:40

malady Alex was.

56:42

Alex had been hoping to write.

56:43

That, tried to write this story and I

56:46

faced a roadblock.

56:47

So it was really nice to clips

56:50

today and see that story ran.

56:51

Welcome to

56:54

the party.

56:55

Oh so you got denied if you'd like to Was

56:57

it a timing thing? You think he wasn't ready

56:59

at the point at that point.

57:00

I don't know, because they restructured his contracts

57:03

a short time later.

57:04

So that was my first Oh

57:07

interesting.

57:07

Yeah, well, I can give you a

57:10

dossier of stories that I've

57:12

pitched, written, taking

57:15

part in, and only to see them come out

57:17

in other places. First,

57:20

it's not the first, it's not the last, and do

57:22

not take it personally because it's not.

57:25

But I'm annoyed. Y,

57:30

Yeah, I.

57:30

Mean that's the nightmare. And then he got like what hit

57:33

in the chest? And then he had like a heart contusion?

57:35

Was what the second thing was?

57:37

I mean series of unfortunate

57:40

incidents.

57:41

Yeah, it's like the ROAs.

57:44

And I knew you didn't see the roast and set it upstairs.

57:48

He had press four buttons, but

57:51

not because of that.

57:52

I just figured they would not do I

57:54

didn't think there was any chance that they

57:56

would do anything Giselle related

57:59

of bad And evidently that was the best

58:01

part, Like I just had.

58:03

I was way off in my expectations. This

58:06

was not like a personal crusade like I

58:08

don't believe in that. Like No, had I

58:10

known it was going to be as funny as you guys said it was,

58:12

i'd have been watching No.

58:14

No, I was more than Netflix of it all that. I

58:16

was worried for you about.

58:17

No like

58:20

I may No I was the other

58:22

night. I was gonna say, I may have been watching a different

58:24

streaming service at the time. I was

58:27

trying to watch the Steve Martin documentary on Apple,

58:29

but it was not Sunday Night. Yeah,

58:31

I heard good things.

58:32

Yeah, we're watch that.

58:34

This is a Celtics question actually, but maybe

58:36

somebody here can help Micah in Delaware. Now

58:38

that we're in the playoffs, I've been wanting to find a

58:40

good Celtics podcast that has

58:42

covered similar to PU. The combination

58:45

of good analysis in decent audio quality

58:47

seems to be hard to find. Any recommendations

58:50

alex Ox start j King.

58:53

If you're looking for kind of the vibe we have,

58:55

I think Jay King. I think he still

58:57

does it with Sam Packard. I

59:00

can't attest the Jay King's audio quality.

59:02

But yeah, Corral still does

59:05

lock on Celtics, right, which is so very

59:07

technical. Yeah, that's like if you are into

59:09

like the stuff that I that I provide.

59:12

Yeah, catch tens. Yeah,

59:14

you'll learn a lot.

59:15

Honestly, And

59:16

I'm.

59:17

Not trying to take any any any shots.

59:19

I love.

59:19

I love the Celtics speed and j King

59:22

is great. That's a great recommendation. You

59:24

gotta go national when it comes to the NBA.

59:26

Bill listen to Bill Simmons.

59:28

Got Yeah, you gotta go about.

59:29

The Celtics enough. And his show has been really good

59:31

lately.

59:32

I think the national basketball

59:34

podcasts are are definitely much

59:37

better than the local radio

59:39

or podcast coverage.

59:40

Right now, Zach, maybe I haven't listened to Zach

59:42

Loo.

59:43

Yeah.

59:43

I listened to Simmons every time as play a

59:45

playoff game and he puts out a pot about it. I listened

59:47

to Simmons.

59:48

Simmons has been good this year.

59:49

How do you find listening to Simmons with football though?

59:52

Oh I shut it off. But he

59:54

has a Rosillo on usually

59:57

to talk hoops and and them

59:59

together. They're really really good. Yeah, they're

1:00:01

they're really good.

1:00:02

It's funny.

1:00:02

He used to drive me nuts with I love you know,

1:00:05

Bill Simmon's shirt. But like when he talked Patriots,

1:00:07

I'm like, I don't think he was.

1:00:08

He should tell me Jeff Blake was better.

1:00:10

Than so it's been

1:00:12

going back a while now.

1:00:13

I don't mean.

1:00:13

I don't mean I saw Fred in Paul's

1:00:16

faces and.

1:00:16

Said I used to work with him. He's

1:00:19

another one who dusted me.

1:00:21

I don't mean this to like brag or anything.

1:00:23

But the other teams, I

1:00:25

don't think they would have a podcast like ours,

1:00:28

Like they'd be afraid to, you know,

1:00:30

like credit to the Crafts for allowing

1:00:33

us to come on and say what we feel and be honest

1:00:35

and all that. But like I couldn't

1:00:37

see the Red Sox having a podcast

1:00:40

like this under their band.

1:00:44

Yeah, so if

1:00:46

you're looking for this, the.

1:00:47

Red Sox certainly would never do anything with

1:00:49

anything.

1:00:50

Yeah, it's Celtics coverage.

1:00:52

Like there's a lot of really good written

1:00:54

work and like beat reporter type of work

1:00:57

for the Celtics when it comes to podcast,

1:00:59

like I said, you know, it's really you really

1:01:01

have to listen to, you know, the ESPN

1:01:04

guys or Bill Simmons or

1:01:06

something like that. Like I remember the last

1:01:08

off season when they traded Marcus Smart

1:01:10

and for Bizingis. It's like this huge trade and I'm

1:01:12

just looking for people that actually know what they're

1:01:15

talking about to listen to about this trade and

1:01:17

I had to go to Simmons and those guys.

1:01:19

He just he definitely can't turn

1:01:21

on Pulse station.

1:01:22

Does Brian Barrett still do things?

1:01:24

Yeah, he does the off the Pike.

1:01:26

Yeah, yeah, for the Ringer, yeah yeah,

1:01:29

so that might be one.

1:01:30

Now, most of the ones that I know

1:01:32

of are all very analytical.

1:01:35

Yeah, So if that's what you're looking

1:01:38

for, then I think all of these

1:01:40

would be options. Like Zach Lowe, and

1:01:43

I completely understand that he knows

1:01:45

the league inside and out, but it's

1:01:47

all yeah, it's all just strict

1:01:50

data. Yeah, you know, usage

1:01:52

and five on five and ISOs

1:01:55

and if you want to know all the percentages of

1:01:57

all the different things, he doesn't exactly.

1:02:01

I just like to know who's good.

1:02:02

There's no Jaws or anything to talk about Jaws at all,

1:02:04

or.

1:02:07

Making fun of the analytics.

1:02:09

You're either going to.

1:02:10

Have like a j King podcast or they get loose

1:02:12

with it and they're still basketball talk, or the

1:02:14

other end of the spectrum where it's very analytical

1:02:16

but like we we really blend it all.

1:02:18

I think hockey's got some

1:02:20

good ones. I got shout out.

1:02:21

My my brother in law started a podcast with another

1:02:23

ref called Chirping Zebras and they just had

1:02:25

Ryan Whitney on it from which is the

1:02:28

Great?

1:02:28

You know that's like the spitting lipit and chick

1:02:30

Lits is like.

1:02:30

That before we almost lost his uh

1:02:33

career.

1:02:33

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1:02:35

If you're into the Bruins playoffs right

1:02:37

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1:02:38

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1:02:40

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one, how many career touchdown

1:04:31

receptions did Jermaine Wiggins have

1:04:33

as a New England Patriot?

1:04:35

All right?

1:04:35

Question one?

1:04:36

Question two, how many

1:04:39

career or how many playoff career playoff

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rushing touchdowns did Antoine Smith

1:04:43

have as a Patriot?

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What jersey numbers did Brian

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All right?

1:04:53

So, Chris, we spent last

1:04:55

show talking about the Pats draft

1:04:57

class quick recap, but I also wanted

1:04:59

to get into some surprises

1:05:03

and the we'll keep it to the first round, maybe

1:05:05

some second we can think of some first round

1:05:08

of just the whole draft, all right. And

1:05:11

I think the first one that comes to people's minds is

1:05:13

Michael Pennox, Michael Penick. And we mentioned

1:05:15

this because you know, for the

1:05:17

the months, the grueling months leading

1:05:20

up to the draft, Pennix was one

1:05:22

of those guys. I was like, Oh, the Patriot's gonna trade

1:05:24

that because Pennix is there second rounder? Right,

1:05:26

No, my boy went at eight to

1:05:29

the Falcons, who just paid Kirk

1:05:31

Cousins one hundred and eighty million dollars one

1:05:33

hundred million guaranteed.

1:05:34

Before JJ McCarty, before.

1:05:36

JJ McCarthy, and and you

1:05:39

know they didn't let Kirk cousins

1:05:41

know they were doing this much personally, I don't care about that.

1:05:43

Shut up, you're getting one hundred and eighty million. That's

1:05:45

a separate story. But like guys

1:05:47

Penix, I think he's great,

1:05:50

one of the better natural passers in

1:05:52

the draft. I agree, but

1:05:55

once again, injury history and

1:05:57

he's twenty four. I think he's twenty

1:05:59

four. He gonna be twenty five. Yeah, I don't

1:06:01

know when he's turning twenty five. But you

1:06:04

know instantly Raheem Morris who we saw at

1:06:06

the combine, nice guy. Yeah, and I

1:06:08

don't know their GM's name. They were

1:06:10

like, he's gonna sit. So you're sitting a twenty

1:06:12

four year old. And he gave Kirk a four

1:06:15

year contract, which you know, if you look into it, potentially

1:06:17

could be a two year contract. There's still a lot of

1:06:19

money to invest the guy to then go take

1:06:21

a quarterback. So I've heard a couple of takes this, but

1:06:23

Chris, let me let me hear what you got on this.

1:06:25

Yeah, I mean, I think Penmic's honestly

1:06:27

isn't a bad pick. I'm not saying it's a bad

1:06:29

pick for Atlanta.

1:06:30

There's nothing wrong with taking a quarterback, right.

1:06:32

And also if he's there, you're gonna

1:06:34

take him from the people that also want him, you

1:06:36

know what I mean. So it's like, what can we do

1:06:39

with this? I just think it's

1:06:41

hard to come

1:06:43

to terms with the fact that they're gonna take him and

1:06:45

have Oh, I'm gonna have him developed a couple of years under Kirk

1:06:47

Cousins, because you just paid Kirk Cousins about ninety

1:06:50

million dollars guaranteed.

1:06:51

And then he wasn't happy, right, So it's.

1:06:53

Like, Okay, now

1:06:55

we have a new guy, a new quarterback with

1:06:58

possible starter potential,

1:07:02

and he's gonna play behind

1:07:06

a Kirk Cousins who's looking to now

1:07:08

protect his job.

1:07:09

So so let me. I didn't mean to cut you

1:07:11

off here. I've heard a couple takes on

1:07:13

this. Dani Rolovski ESPN had

1:07:15

a good one, and also I think Ryan Clark said the same

1:07:18

thing, which is just

1:07:20

look what happened to the Raiders. You know, if

1:07:22

you take Kirk Cousins, you think this is gonna work out

1:07:24

the way it's gonna work out, you're

1:07:26

hopefully losing at minimum, like

1:07:28

you're hopefully at minimum winning ten games, which

1:07:30

is gonna put you in no man's land Raiders

1:07:33

and you're screwed.

1:07:35

So now when Kirk Cousins.

1:07:37

Who's what thirty six off the Achilles,

1:07:39

which is not an easy injury to come back, Horri

1:07:42

say, it goes well, like then you're just stuck in

1:07:44

no man's land and it's tough.

1:07:46

Now on the flip side, let me.

1:07:48

Just redoce some of the picks that were

1:07:50

available after Pennis

1:07:52

got taken, all right, instantly after it was Romadunze.

1:07:55

Yeah, that's tough.

1:07:56

You add Olu Fashanu, the

1:07:59

ot Brock, Bauers was there,

1:08:02

Latto, Dallas Turner, that Jared

1:08:04

Verse, like these guys needed an edge rusher, Chop Robinson,

1:08:07

Ye, a couple other dogs

1:08:10

dogs there all right, so it

1:08:12

is tough, and there was some Falcons fans were pretty mad.

1:08:15

Yeah, I mean, I think just in general

1:08:17

it seemed like they're frustrations all across

1:08:19

the board there, and I it's hard to

1:08:21

understand it again, But at the same time,

1:08:24

it's like, okay, like now you do have

1:08:26

this guy Michael Pendix. If you want to

1:08:28

develop him, you can, but I don't know how much developing

1:08:30

he'll want to do there. And also you

1:08:32

don't want to be developing him because Kirk

1:08:34

Cousins is your guy technical.

1:08:35

Well, and then like let's say, let's say things go to

1:08:37

play, Like Kirk Cousins plays out three years. You

1:08:40

know, they get to the NFC Championship. I don't think the Falons are

1:08:42

only a super Bowl.

1:08:42

To be honest.

1:08:43

But he goes off, maybe plays

1:08:45

one year somewhere. My

1:08:48

boy pendix is twenty seven now, yeah,

1:08:50

and like you know that's that's

1:08:52

uh. And then he's still learning developing,

1:08:54

but you know that you only get so much game time, right,

1:08:57

so and then you know, Kirk Cousins has a bad

1:08:59

game, the fans are gonna start booing because he got

1:09:01

this first round pick there.

1:09:02

Exactly so exactly. It's funny.

1:09:05

I mean, the other teams that will kind of

1:09:07

step aside from Penetry because we could talk about Yah for

1:09:09

twenty minutes in and of itself. But I

1:09:11

mean, you think about what the Giants did. I

1:09:13

mean they're sticking with Danny Dimes.

1:09:15

You got it,

1:09:16

we got it.

1:09:17

So okay, so they got there. The league neighbors,

1:09:20

he.

1:09:20

Didn't look too happy to be there, but that's a different story.

1:09:22

Well, did you see kool Age reaction to being a saint.

1:09:24

That was interesting. But yeah,

1:09:26

so Neighbors is headed to the Giants

1:09:29

easily. I mean, all that talking

1:09:31

about the Vikings trading out and they still

1:09:33

got a guy who I think again,

1:09:36

early on we were saying J. J. McCarthy

1:09:38

might not be the answer in the first round, but you

1:09:40

saw how fast these quarterbacks went off the

1:09:42

board. Yeah, and I mean the

1:09:44

Vikings were lucky enough like to be

1:09:47

in that position that they had, that they earned,

1:09:49

like trading into those spots. I

1:09:51

think that was a big step for them and they were able to get their

1:09:53

guys.

1:09:53

Let's keep the QB stuff going because after JJ

1:09:56

was this was shocking.

1:09:58

Oh everybody, I mean, think about

1:10:00

who the Broncos will work them with right

1:10:02

now though, Jared Stinham, Yeah, Zach

1:10:05

Wilson, I think it's Trevor Simmels.

1:10:09

Ben Denucci's there.

1:10:10

But so that's the thing, like, are we are you sure bo

1:10:12

Knicks is is that much

1:10:14

better? And then Sean Payton's going,

1:10:16

oh, I baited the other teams to take it. This guy

1:10:18

like that, you're not even in your conference, Like.

1:10:21

You know me, I've been a believer in bo Knicks

1:10:23

for quite a while.

1:10:24

Now at the number twelve pick.

1:10:26

No, but I've been a believer in bo Nicks

1:10:28

and I think his first couple of

1:10:30

season in Auburn he was okay, but

1:10:32

he figured it out at Orgon

1:10:35

and I give him a lot of credit there. Also very

1:10:37

old by the way.

1:10:38

Sat Harry Old twenty four,

1:10:41

twenty five.

1:10:41

Yeah, he's not very old, but he's Pennix

1:10:43

Old.

1:10:44

Okay, And I think you know.

1:10:46

That pick for the Broncos

1:10:48

for what was left. I get why

1:10:50

you had to do it because you have no other

1:10:53

option.

1:10:53

Then also speaks on like like like mac

1:10:55

Jones going to the Jags like

1:10:58

as a like as he just I don't know.

1:11:00

I just think like also with the Falcons

1:11:02

or even the Broncos, like all right, you didn't

1:11:04

get your guy, like you're using that twelve pick. You need to

1:11:06

be locked in. You could have traded back because then

1:11:09

look what happened to the Raiders. I saw

1:11:11

a joke that they auto drafted. They got Brock

1:11:13

Bowers, who's a beast, but they

1:11:16

took may Or last year in the first or in

1:11:18

the second round, like like now they just have a bunch

1:11:20

of tight ends with Aidan O'Connell and minshew.

1:11:22

So oh no, though,

1:11:25

this is unless I'll probably have to wrap up soon.

1:11:27

But this is one more that I have here

1:11:29

that it's this is, this is

1:11:31

looking into the future. The Bills

1:11:34

trading with the Chiefs, the Kreefs

1:11:37

get Worthy, which I like, I

1:11:39

knew Worthy was gonna fall to them. He was he was gonna

1:11:41

be in that area where they could you get know, you win Super

1:11:43

Bowl, you get a luxury pick. Listen, the Bills

1:11:45

ended up with Coleman. Worthy's there,

1:11:47

you know, he he's he's one

1:11:50

seventy soaking wet. But

1:11:52

listen, I'll talk to you in December

1:11:55

when Patrick Mahomes is scrambling

1:11:58

off a stupid penalty because of hip drop,

1:12:00

so they get the first down in the fourth quarter and

1:12:02

he throws a bomb to Worthy. What

1:12:04

are we doing? What are we doing? So

1:12:06

so that's that's the crazy thing

1:12:08

there, I think, which will be interesting to see what happens.

1:12:11

Yeah, Chris, my others, I mean, I'm

1:12:13

just trying to think of you know, I'm

1:12:16

kind of still stuck in the broncos. I know you mentioned Worthy

1:12:18

and that whole trade. I mean, first of all, Bill's

1:12:20

training with a team that they literally can't be in

1:12:22

the playoffs is hilarious in and of itself.

1:12:25

But you know, just feeding

1:12:27

power more power, yeah, is insane.

1:12:30

With a with a with a fifth year option now

1:12:32

yeah, but Chris, as always, thanks

1:12:34

for joining and send your trivia

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with back at the Alma Mada and

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uh and he's you know,

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he's helping out Florida's program, trying

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to get them back, you know, to where they were when

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he was there and things like that.

1:13:19

And so is he still on the internet.

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I asked about that yesterday.

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I'm sure you know, I'm going to plead you

1:13:28

want his only fans account.

1:13:31

You get a license for that thing.

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That was a great That was a great moment in PFW.

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And oh yeah, oh you guys discovered

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that.

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A Google search of Brandon Spikes

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is junk, and Frank goes, I have seen it.

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I have seen it, and then I said it in the elevator

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yesterday, and then.

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Paul starts grilling. Have you seen yes?

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Have you seen SOA yeah.

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I just go I don't get that. I

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have no desire research.

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1:14:47

trivia time Trivia

1:14:49

Tuesday. How many touchdowns

1:14:52

did Jermaine Wiggans have with the Patriots?

1:14:55

Three's correct?

1:14:57

Seven incorrect? Five

1:15:01

No five is corrective?

1:15:03

Oh nice job.

1:15:04

How many postseason touchdowns

1:15:06

did Antoine Smith have with the Patriots?

1:15:10

Three? No?

1:15:13

Four? Postseason No? Two?

1:15:15

Two? Only two?

1:15:17

And finally, what numbers did

1:15:19

Brian Hoyer wear?

1:15:21

Two?

1:15:21

That's one, eight, that's two, six,

1:15:26

No ten, ten, No five?

1:15:30

I knew, I knew five two.

1:15:33

Yep, that's a good one.

1:15:34

All right?

1:15:35

Was he five last?

1:15:37

I think so?

1:15:39

I think I thought he was two. Wasn't

1:15:41

he.

1:15:43

Most recently?

1:15:44

I think he was five? I think the last time

1:15:46

you played, I think right, And

1:15:49

that's the one I missed.

1:15:50

I'll take your word for it.

1:15:52

You're the number one, if you'll take my word for

1:15:54

it.

1:15:54

I know.

1:15:55

So it's Duce, it's alex Evan, Paul,

1:15:57

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1:16:01

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1:16:03

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1:16:10

phones after our lunch break.

1:16:13

What you have Paul buff

1:16:15

tuff Tenders. Nice

1:16:18

Duncan is in Hawaii. Hey, Duncan,

1:16:22

Duncan, come on,

1:16:26

you know, I wanted to talk to somebody from Hawaii.

1:16:29

That's too bad. We got

1:16:31

to get a better phone system. When

1:16:33

people hang up, it should say that they hung up.

1:16:36

You know.

1:16:37

Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up? Eldred?

1:16:42

All right?

1:16:42

Hey?

1:16:44

Good?

1:16:45

He got a question. Bad if

1:16:49

the receiver coach, you

1:16:52

think you can do something with Pope

1:16:54

and.

1:16:56

Gosh tack on a any

1:16:58

other wide receivers.

1:17:00

Didn't have him last year a wide receiver

1:17:02

coach.

1:17:03

Last year, well,

1:17:05

they had a wide receiver coach. Last year's turned around.

1:17:08

But now it's Tyler Hughes. No bro

1:17:12

Okay, well he had.

1:17:13

To I got, I got, just had the title.

1:17:16

I get what you're saying. But he's

1:17:18

a former wide receiver coaching the wide receivers

1:17:21

with the title of wide receivers.

1:17:23

He was coaching the he was coaching the flag team this weekend.

1:17:25

H I'm sure.

1:17:26

Yeah. Tyler Hughes is the new wide receivers

1:17:28

coach who was on the staff before before

1:17:31

this a couple of years ago, and then is

1:17:33

U now was on the staff at Washington last

1:17:36

year coaching those receivers. So

1:17:39

there you go.

1:17:40

My guy just went.

1:17:44

In terms of how good he is at the job.

1:17:47

I yeah, yeah.

1:17:49

I mean, look, when you coach Roma dunes A, Jaalen Polkan,

1:17:51

Jaylen McMillan, I think that you have

1:17:53

to prove that you can do it with lesser talent first

1:17:55

before we crown you. But they obviously

1:17:57

had a very good year there

1:17:59

at Washington last year with those receivers,

1:18:02

so I mean it's

1:18:04

not a bad thing that they played well

1:18:07

under his tutelage. But there are also three really

1:18:09

talented guys. So we'll see.

1:18:11

If anyone wonders what Paul reacting to,

1:18:14

it's Northeastern, thanks

1:18:16

all, all right?

1:18:16

They almost went back to back to back. They missed

1:18:18

it by about a foot.

1:18:19

Northeastern baseball. That's next

1:18:21

to go, by the way, Paul, next

1:18:24

to Joe, next to go.

1:18:26

What they're cutting it from.

1:18:29

It's one of the few successful programs. I ain't

1:18:31

going anywhere.

1:18:32

They get to play the Red Sox every year in Florida.

1:18:36

Yeah, do you ever play the Did you get

1:18:38

to do that?

1:18:39

I did not because I didn't go to Norton.

1:18:42

You wouldn't know it doesn't play. They

1:18:45

never get I went to.

1:18:48

Gets to play the Red Sox right occasionally?

1:18:50

Yes, uh Tyler

1:18:53

in New York City. I really like the roast because they

1:18:55

play at Fenway.

1:18:55

Though, Alex why telling

1:18:58

Alex she asked them by play the Red

1:19:00

Sox And that was

1:19:03

specifically Alex genuine

1:19:06

curiosity.

1:19:07

If you're looking for some real baseball highlight to

1:19:10

eighties, I was there.

1:19:15

I could have throw this, put

1:19:17

me in. We were one state championship.

1:19:19

From the guy who's career

1:19:21

moment was against Caius.

1:19:24

Just became the roast of that's

1:19:27

good.

1:19:28

The Ice Griffs are the solid program.

1:19:30

You know what, didn't roast?

1:19:32

Wait a minute for a second,

1:19:35

Paul. Didn't we have a concept

1:19:38

years ago when Eric was here

1:19:40

that we were going to have a.

1:19:41

Roast, did

1:19:43

we? Yeah, like we would. When you take turns

1:19:45

roasting.

1:19:46

That's a good and you realize you liked your jobs and.

1:19:49

Basically the show already, I mean kind of

1:19:51

the show for you and I is a roast. We

1:19:53

get killed every show.

1:19:55

That might be a good idea though yeah clean

1:19:58

though oh well yeah of course, no.

1:20:01

What's the point of the roast And we're not gonna roast.

1:20:05

We don't need any the history of

1:20:07

these roasts. It used to be the Friars Club in

1:20:09

New York was like this club

1:20:11

for a comedy and every year they would do the Friars

1:20:14

Club Roast and they'd pick a different

1:20:16

comedian to roast.

1:20:17

And then I don't know.

1:20:18

What happened, if they ran out of money or something, but then

1:20:20

Dean Martin picked it up and

1:20:22

on TV they'd have the Dean Martin Rose

1:20:25

and they were, you know, made for TV, and

1:20:27

it was like Foster Brooks doing his drunk

1:20:29

guy thing and Rich Little doing yeah,

1:20:33

and they were they start out good, but they

1:20:35

got really lame. It was like the same people

1:20:37

and it was it got bad and and then

1:20:40

yeah, it got it got really bad. And then

1:20:43

but now this new era is that the Jeffrey

1:20:45

Ross Rose and those are all crazy.

1:20:47

Yeah, there's some really good ones in the vault

1:20:49

with Jeffrey Ross, and it

1:20:52

hasn't been good in a while because they

1:20:54

people just don't joke like that and like

1:20:56

it's too everybody's gotta get

1:20:58

sensitive and everything about and apparently

1:21:01

Gazelle's already sensitive about it too, so

1:21:04

you know, crimea River.

1:21:05

But anyway, Tyler in New

1:21:07

York says, I really like the roast because it

1:21:09

celebrated Tom Brady the Patriot.

1:21:11

Too much of Brady media focuses on

1:21:13

both teams, Patriots and Buccaneers.

1:21:16

Remember that his first retirement

1:21:18

announcement didn't even acknowledge the Patriots.

1:21:20

You have all said, this really feels

1:21:22

like closure for the dynasty, and I agree.

1:21:25

By not including Buccaneer coaches or teammates

1:21:27

except Ronk, who is primarily a Patriots teammate,

1:21:30

it primarily celebrated Tom Tom's

1:21:32

Patriots career. It

1:21:34

felt healing in a sense. Tom Brady

1:21:37

is our quarterback and the world knows

1:21:39

that in his post playing career he's

1:21:41

a Patriot.

1:21:42

I forgot he played it Tampa.

1:21:44

I forgot he played for the Patriots.

1:21:45

I mean, it's quite a tricky just pulled

1:21:47

it there. Though. When Tom Brady retired

1:21:50

the first time, the media

1:21:52

didn't mention that he was a

1:21:54

Patriot. But

1:21:57

because Tom didn't mention the Patriots

1:21:59

in his farewell right, that

1:22:01

was a big thing. Ye, but we'll be mad at the

1:22:04

media.

1:22:05

There also there were Bucks teammates on

1:22:07

the dias, as they say, but

1:22:09

they just didn't speak. Oh really, Yeah, Ryan

1:22:12

Jansen Levante, David Oh,

1:22:14

were they the.

1:22:14

Guys on the other side, on the other side

1:22:16

where they were I thought they might be like comedy

1:22:18

writer.

1:22:19

Now no, no, the people that were behind the

1:22:21

room of comedia.

1:22:22

You didn't get any of what you want.

1:22:26

It was definitely not as advertised

1:22:28

as the Patriots contingent that was

1:22:30

there for sure. But they were some Bucks

1:22:32

teammates.

1:22:32

There's some good gold, comedy gold though, from Tom's

1:22:34

Buck days, Like you know, you probably could have worked

1:22:37

in him practicing when he wasn't supposed

1:22:39

to and the drunk thing,

1:22:41

you know, like after he did the

1:22:43

mix water.

1:22:45

Yeah, yeah, there's some stuff there. This could have been some comedic

1:22:47

area. I think you could, you could dabble it. The I

1:22:49

think with the roast though, is that like you just see

1:22:51

how simple it is.

1:22:52

Though.

1:22:52

It's like there's gonna be dumb jokes

1:22:54

about Gronk, there's gonna be you know,

1:22:56

Jewish jokes about Edelman, there's gonna be

1:22:59

divorced.

1:22:59

Jokes about Brady.

1:23:00

You know, like you just see like what they

1:23:02

are, and you know you just kind of work in that area,

1:23:05

so.

1:23:05

You pick at the nits.

1:23:06

Yeah, yeah, yeah, I don't know.

1:23:07

I always like my mind just always produces it down

1:23:09

to like what is the core of that joke, you know,

1:23:11

and it's it's all kind of obvious.

1:23:13

Like that's why I like poor Gronks.

1:23:15

Like as soon as you realize Gronk's get

1:23:17

targeted tonight, you knew he was getting killed.

1:23:19

But the only thing they have to say is

1:23:21

that he's dumb. Yeah right, he's in good

1:23:23

shape. Yeah, he made it his whole career without

1:23:25

you.

1:23:25

Know, somebody's got to be I still don't think

1:23:27

he's ever cashed a paycheck from playing

1:23:30

now.

1:23:30

Yeah, they're just sitting there in his.

1:23:33

Justice endorsements.

1:23:34

He spends Yeah, who's the idiot

1:23:36

now, right, guys laughing all

1:23:38

the way to the bank.

1:23:39

Craig and Charlotte here, I

1:23:41

don't really have a joke.

1:23:43

I just want to make sure that he knows.

1:23:46

Craig, Craig and Charlotte appreciate

1:23:48

your coverage of the draft. I've

1:23:51

got a renewed energy and hope for the coming year.

1:23:53

I know Elliott and Gerrod have talked a lot about

1:23:56

the importance of competition. We have like eleven

1:23:58

receivers in like fifteen old doesn't

1:24:01

feel like we really brought in hardly anyone

1:24:03

on the defensive side of the ball, especially

1:24:05

on the D line, aside from Watts. Do

1:24:07

you feel like the Patriots have done

1:24:10

enough to generate camp competition for

1:24:12

the D I think we'll see some of those

1:24:14

wide receiver in linemen released before

1:24:16

the start of camp and more defensive

1:24:18

camp bodies brought on.

1:24:20

I just think you got to pick your battles, and the offense

1:24:22

needed the attention this year, and I don't

1:24:25

think that they're totally prepared on the defensive

1:24:28

front, you know, for the season in terms of

1:24:30

the pass rush depths. You saw last year when

1:24:32

you lost Jude On, you know how much it kind

1:24:34

of fell off. So I still

1:24:36

have concerns, But it's just a matter of the offense was

1:24:38

so terrible last year. How can you really realistically

1:24:41

make a case that like, well, we really need a

1:24:43

too gabber to back up Davon godcha, you know,

1:24:45

or we really need a day

1:24:47

two edge guy, Like I'd rather have the

1:24:49

receivers. But I do think that, you

1:24:51

know, if Judahm were to go or you know

1:24:53

that, I mean, it almost like makes me wonder if it's it's

1:24:56

hurting them from trying to trade Jude On because they just

1:24:58

don't have the depth to play

1:25:00

behind him. I mean, you know the guy Kim Andez

1:25:03

that they signed like that, I mean, that's what you're talking

1:25:05

about. After j Jennings and Jude

1:25:07

On, it's there's nothing there.

1:25:08

What's the roster at now?

1:25:11

Players after after you'll.

1:25:14

Probably see some more comings

1:25:16

and goings.

1:25:17

Yeah, I just I think their defense is in really

1:25:19

good shape.

1:25:19

I do.

1:25:20

And I think that gered Mayo, DeMarcus

1:25:22

Comington coming back, Pellegrino coming back.

1:25:25

They're they're banking on the fact that they're going to have

1:25:27

continuity and coaching on that

1:25:29

side of the ball that they trust's.

1:25:31

Pretty strong too. Like they're giving

1:25:33

up like seven points a game.

1:25:35

If they were lucky they.

1:25:36

Got they got to force more turnovers.

1:25:38

I mean that was one thing that they didn't more disrupt last

1:25:40

year, splash play.

1:25:41

But if everybody, the top line guys all stay

1:25:43

healthy and one or two guys

1:25:45

takes a good step forward, I think

1:25:47

they'll be they'll be fine.

1:25:50

He's going to get so much attention.

1:25:51

Sorry to cut you off, and I think that's just going to

1:25:53

force other people to be in

1:25:56

positions to just rek havoc.

1:25:57

On the other time, and I wonder if Barmore is going to

1:25:59

start to get that attention too, you know, is that attention

1:26:01

going to start to go to bar more more than I mean, it's

1:26:03

hard to you know, kind of play both those with a guy

1:26:05

on the inside and a guy on the outside.

1:26:07

But and I get

1:26:09

the impression that, you know, wow, they're really just focused

1:26:11

on the offense. But when you think about

1:26:13

it, like Emma said, you know, Christian

1:26:16

Gonzales is still kind of in his rookie

1:26:18

year. He only played four games, you know, so

1:26:20

I consider him still kind of, you know,

1:26:23

a rookie. Keon White he's played

1:26:25

more, but like he's a young guy

1:26:28

that you know, we're waiting to see what he can do. So

1:26:31

I mean there's still there's young guys on defense

1:26:34

that we'll see what they can do this

1:26:36

year.

1:26:36

Yeah. I think that was the big thing that Dara had

1:26:38

mentioned too, is just wanting to give

1:26:40

those guys opportunities. And if you start signing

1:26:43

big name free agents and stuff like that on that side

1:26:45

of the ball, you're not ever going

1:26:47

to give Keon White a

1:26:49

fair shake of opportunities. If you sign

1:26:52

a big time edge rusher or something like that in free

1:26:54

agency. So I understand that maybe,

1:26:56

you know, they didn't invest on that side

1:26:58

of the ball as much as they did on offense.

1:27:00

But I just I feel really good about where

1:27:02

they are defensively. I don't think they're going to lose games

1:27:05

because their defense is not getting stops. Let

1:27:07

me put you that out.

1:27:08

I've said it before, and I still am

1:27:11

interested to see what the effect of losing

1:27:13

Bill Belichick has on the defense.

1:27:15

Yeah, you know, you lose that insight,

1:27:18

you lose that game planning

1:27:20

and Steve forty five years

1:27:22

of knowledge, you know, and Steve

1:27:24

you know, but you know, mostly Bill,

1:27:27

like are these guys

1:27:29

going to be put in the position to

1:27:31

succeed like they were last year?

1:27:33

And I think it almost carries over to offense to a little

1:27:35

bit. Fred Like, you know, you're I mean, you're saying, like Bill

1:27:38

going into the game looking at the other team and saying,

1:27:40

you know, this is defensive of what we have to do.

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I'm sure he had the same thing to say about the offensive side

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of the ball.

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That might not have been him necessarily executing

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it, but him identifying what

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they needed to do on offense. And I think there's

1:27:51

no way to really know, but I think that that's going to

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be part of it too, that you know, not having

1:27:55

his insight into opponents and knowing,

1:27:57

you know, tactically how we need to dismantle this

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operation.

1:28:00

Uh.

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I think that's that's a big list. Just to go back to Kem

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White though, he's my my, my most interesting

1:28:05

guy on defense this year. Like if he can you

1:28:07

know, elevate and really be one

1:28:10

of the main dudes in that kind of rotation up

1:28:12

front, I think it'll be it'll be a good thing. And then

1:28:14

and then the cornerbacks those three that I named with Isaiah

1:28:16

Bolden, Marcellus Dile and Alex Austin,

1:28:18

I mean Sean Wade, Marco Wilson in that mix too, But those

1:28:21

three guys, I feel like I'd love to see

1:28:23

somebody emerge and be, you know, another

1:28:25

outside presence, even if you start with with

1:28:28

Gonzo and J. Jones on the outside, and then

1:28:30

you know, and then allows J. Jones to slide inside

1:28:32

on third down like we've talked about with mccordy.

1:28:34

Uh, and even J. C. Jackson to a.

1:28:36

Degree, you know that that I think is the biggest

1:28:38

thing for me because they're just there aren't a lot of those guys, I

1:28:41

Mapho is kind of redundant. I

1:28:43

mean, I am interested in him, but I don't really

1:28:45

see a scenario where Marte Mapho becomes

1:28:47

a huge part of the defensive s here.

1:28:48

I could maybe see it with Keon White though.

1:28:50

Kenny T from AZ writes in do you see

1:28:53

the Patriots signing J. C. Jackson since

1:28:55

coach Mayo is a players coach? Or

1:28:57

has that ship sailed.

1:28:58

Sailed, sailed all the way across

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the world.

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I hope I'd rather sign

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