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It

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is Monday, January ninth, and

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this is people every day. Well,

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hi there everyone. I am People's

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editorial director of society and culture,

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Michelle Tober. Janine is out today

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and I am honored to be filling

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in for her especially on

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today of all days when there is so

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much news surrounding the royal

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family. So let's jump

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right in with the biggest story

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out there in the royals world. Naturally,

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I'm talking about Kate Middleton's first

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day. That's right. The princess

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of Wales is forty one years old

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today and in fact is celebrating

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her very first birthday as the princess

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of Wales. The royal family Twitter

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account, of course, posted a

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birthday wish to her with a smiling photo

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of Kate and a caption that read quote,

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wishing the Princess of Wales a very

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happy birthday today. Kate and William

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have had a very busy few

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weeks And while they typically tend to keep

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birthdays really private and low key,

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I do hope that Kate is enjoying a few

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extra moments of relaxation today

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And then, yes, aside from

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today being Kate's 41st birthday,

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I suppose there is one more royal

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family story floating out there today.

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That would be Prince Harry. Yesterday,

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the Duke of Sussex had two

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big sit down interviews, one

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on sixty minutes, and one on

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ITV in the UK. And then

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there was another this morning on Good

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Morning America. And all

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of these are, of course, to

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discuss Prince Harry and

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his new memoir spare. Well,

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tomorrow is a very big day. Prince

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Harry's memoirs fare will finally

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be in bookstores for everyone to buy,

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although it does feel like it's been out for a few

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days. But before you receive your

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copy, let's dive into all of

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the interviews he's been doing lately where he's really

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been shutting some additional light on what

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he writes in the book. So joining me

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now to discuss everything are

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my royals colleagues, People's

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Chief foreign correspondent, Simon Perry,

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and People Senior Editor, Erin

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Hill. So there is a lot to

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get into, and I guess I'd like to start

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with some of what Harry discusses

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in his interviews regarding Camilla,

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the Queen consort. Simon,

2:24

it seemed as though goes a

2:26

bit further in the interviews than he does in the

2:28

book about some of the things

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he alleges she did in

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terms of what he

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says about, you know, planting stories and and

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and being he uses the word the

2:39

villain in this

2:40

scenario. What do you make of that? It was

2:42

fascinating. Wasn't it about Camilla? She is

2:44

mentioned throughout the book and there are hints

2:47

that she or people around

2:49

her were behind some of the leaks about

2:51

both Harry and William. But yeah.

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In the last day or so, he's gone a bit further. Hasn't

2:56

even talked about being sacrificed on

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her PR alter. There's no

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doubt, especially when he was a bit younger,

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there were people employed

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to promote Camilla and

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make her the com country Britain

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ready for her as a wife of

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Charles and sometimes

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that meant running stories that were

3:17

negative towards Harry and

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to a lesser extent William. Yeah.

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It was quite something to hear him call her dangerous.

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In terms of, you know, what he meant was

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she had this sort of motive to

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want to distract or deflect from

3:31

negative coverage of herself. And

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again, alleging that she did that by using

3:35

the press to her advantage. Were you surprised

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to hear him write in the book

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to read that he wrote in the book that Harry and William

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begged their father Charles not to marry her?

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I wasn't surprised because they always had

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this difficult relationship with

3:49

the idea of her. But as

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he often points out in the book and in these

3:53

interviews, there's no doubt she

3:55

makes his father happy. They like

3:57

seeing their father happy. And I think

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he makes an aside, doesn't her

4:01

being happy, might be a good thing that that stories

4:03

would stop. So he does see

4:06

the benefits of Camilo being around

4:08

and both for his father have the family as a

4:10

whole, and he also says he gets on well

4:12

with her. It's difficult, isn't

4:14

it for him marrying up the

4:16

politics of it with with what is actually the

4:18

human relationship that have gone

4:20

on and seemed to thrive in the family. I mean,

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you know, his father is happier. Right.

4:25

Right. He did call Canela his father's

4:27

person, which is sort of an American modern

4:29

way of saying that. Erin turning

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to the quite extensive passages

4:34

in the book and also in the interviews

4:36

about the death of his mother, Princess

4:38

Diana, I think one of the things that

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really resonated and really

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surprised a lot of people was

4:44

this idea he reveals that he

4:46

didn't really believe his

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mother was dead for a very long

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time. Can you tell us more about

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that? You've heard so much from him over the years,

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while he's coats with his mother's death in

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the therapy he's been through and I'll say, well, it's been

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painful, but we've never heard him talk

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about this before that for many years

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and into his twenties, and

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it's part of this idea in his mind that his

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mother was in hiding and not really dead

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and that she was going to come for him and

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William one day and he just couldn't

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reason in his own mind that this was actually

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happened. It is really heartbreaking and

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it really shows that this was a young

5:19

boy and then a young man who really did

5:21

need more help than he was getting in processing

5:24

the death of his mother. He went to

5:26

great lengths to try to convince

5:28

himself that one or the other from

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asking to see the

5:32

secret government photos of from

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the crash and her death to even reliving

5:37

the final ride she took in that Paris

5:40

tunnel himself. He was just

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really trying to find out for

5:44

himself and what happened to this and

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possibly happened. Yeah. It

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was really I thought that that was really devastating

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hearing the links he went to

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convince himself that she was really gone.

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I thought in the interview with

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Anderson Cooper changing topics

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that one of the most

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pointed moments in that interview

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is when Anderson said to Harry,

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okay, you've made it clear why

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you left, why then

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not give up your royal titles,

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which, of course, are Duke and

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Duchess of Sussex for Meghan and

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Harry. Simon, what did you think of his

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answer to that. And also, I

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thought it was very telling that

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Harry seems to be laying some

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bread crumbs

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Possibly, pretty publicly for his father

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about a role he'd like to see in the

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future. Well, to answer the first part, why

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not give up your title? It's perfectly good question.

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Isn't it? But he said what difference does it

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make while the glibly, I suppose, in

6:39

his answer, but also, I

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mean, he would see it probably. It

6:43

was given by his grandmother and it sticks with

6:45

him a bit like being born Prince Harry. I

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imagine he hasn't said that, but it

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was given on his wedding day. It's

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not like there's other things that he gave up, which was

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his duties, for example, he had to give

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up when he left. But I agree

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he's thrown out this idea that

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he could. If dad asks him as he made

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a point in Tom Bradley's interview,

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he would consider coming back, but there's

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got to be more apologies before than

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he said as well. But he is leaving

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a door open and he's tantalizing

7:13

sort of idea that he could almost

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work in the commonwealth. I think there is the beginnings

7:17

of him trying to sort of see

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if there was a way back into real life

7:22

if they wanted it. And obviously,

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there's a long way to go in terms of working

7:26

that out on both sides. Yeah.

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He gives this very final answer regarding

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no. I will never be a full

7:32

time working royal again, but very

7:34

much leaves the door open to

7:36

this idea of serving his father

7:38

or the crown in some way within the Commonwealth.

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Which again, which was a bit like what

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they proposed when they first left. I

7:45

suppose he's trying to get back to that, which

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we might come back to the same problems. But

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it shows that they're still wanting to have

7:52

some way of moving forward, I think,

7:54

It does. So between the three of us,

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we have been covering this family for

7:58

several decades. And

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some of what we've heard in this

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book and in these interviews directly

8:05

from Harry are certainly things that

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we have heard from sources

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within the family within the

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institution on and off

8:13

throughout the years. And, you know, I wondered

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how for you, Simon, hearing

8:18

directly from Harry for the first time.

8:20

Is it validating in terms of

8:22

your own reporting? Did anything

8:24

really shock you or did it

8:26

feel more like, okay, for the first

8:28

time, he's really confirming things

8:30

that had been said sort of quietly throughout

8:33

the years. Well, it's incredible.

8:35

The most recent stuff that we've

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all been covering over the last couple of years is

8:39

why they left, why they had the terrible

8:41

arguments that that led to their

8:43

partially from the royal family, a working end of the

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royal family. And Harry

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confirmed it that his brother had

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warned him if it's all shown concern

8:52

about how fast were moving in their relationship.

8:54

Harry and Meghan were moving in their relationship,

8:56

which is a story that we'd been writing for the

8:58

last couple of years. Okay. It hadn't been

9:00

denied, and we confident of it. But at the

9:02

same time, here it was suddenly coming

9:04

from one of their voices. And then

9:06

there's things like in confirming his

9:08

drug use. Yes. We all reported that a long

9:10

time ago. Although it seems to be at

9:12

different points to when it first came out. And

9:14

their difficulties as we talked earlier about and

9:16

conflicts about Camilla and

9:18

the role in their lives as young

9:20

men and As I say, I think that's

9:22

more reconciled now, but it clearly

9:24

was a very hard time for him

9:26

and for William in terms of

9:29

getting used to her, but also the sorts

9:31

of conversations around the

9:33

place and in the media that that

9:35

surrounded her. And the fact that

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he's written it all down over four

9:39

hundred odd pages, it's fascinating

9:42

because we've covered a lot of it, and here we

9:44

are actually hearing his own take on it,

9:46

and some of it's resonates.

9:48

Some of it is brand new, like the

9:50

Nativa, who came to blows with his brother, which I'll

9:52

be honest, I did. Obviously, I've never heard

9:54

of before but it's fascinating to hear his side

9:56

of these last thirty odd

9:58

years. Again, it's it's really unprecedented

10:01

even his mother when she

10:03

first did share her side of the story to Andrew Morton,

10:05

did so under a cloak

10:07

of anonymity, not revealing that

10:09

she was Andrew Morton source. So

10:11

to have him put his name to

10:13

this is something really extraordinary. And I

10:15

think it's interesting, Simon, that he

10:17

does call out this use of

10:19

royal sources, unnamed

10:21

sources, which is something certainly that is

10:23

commonplace throughout the press on both

10:25

sides of the Atlantic. What is your

10:27

opinion on his criticism of

10:29

that? I have a big soft spot for

10:31

Prince Harry, and I've admired him over

10:33

the years for many things. But if

10:35

you're a political journalist, you have political

10:37

sources. If you're a royal correspondent or you

10:39

work in the royal world. You have a

10:42

royal source. He he says they're all

10:44

at the palace. Some of them are, some of them

10:46

are friends, some of them are all kinds

10:48

of adjacent to the to the

10:50

palace types. You can have a long debate about whether

10:52

you should name them, whether they should be named,

10:54

and so on. But to

10:56

say that you wouldn't have a source for things

10:58

or that they're all one

11:00

body or one type of person,

11:02

I think is is wrong. I'm not saying

11:05

he's not right in some respects he is,

11:07

but there are many royal sources

11:09

and he's not necessarily being

11:11

right about them all being one kind. He says

11:13

they're basically all the palace. Well,

11:17

there is still so much to talk

11:19

about surrounding Prince Harry and the Windsor

11:21

family. After the break, we get

11:23

into the rest of Harry's setting the

11:25

record straight in these really

11:27

in site down interviews, plus a

11:29

tease of what to expect from our

11:31

own interview with Prince Harry, which will be

11:33

out tomorrow. We'll be right back.

11:42

We are

11:47

back with people's Simon Perry and

11:49

Aaron Hill talking all

11:51

about Prince Harry's new mom our

11:53

spare. Let's get into

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what we hear at people have

11:57

learned in our own reporting. Simon,

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you know, there's quite a a bit obviously

12:02

in the book about Harry's

12:04

relationship with both his father

12:06

Charles and his brother William.

12:08

As someone who has chronicled those

12:11

three individuals quarter of

12:13

a century now, he admitted

12:16

to Anderson Cooper that they

12:18

don't speak at all right now. He and his brother and

12:20

father talked about this narrative

12:22

being shaved against him, talked about why

12:24

he's speaking to the press? Can

12:26

you shutlight on some of that for

12:29

us. It's quite clear they have a very strange

12:31

relationship they have done for a while. I

12:33

think it goes back further. I he even

12:35

says, doesn't either. As a teen, he

12:37

found it hard when he arrives at Eton and

12:39

William, like a lot of our older brothers

12:41

don't wanna be associated with their

12:43

younger sibling, and he even meant in one of interviews

12:45

yesterday that he can see that a little bit in Archie

12:47

that he doesn't want really crashing into his

12:49

playing time or whatever. So

12:51

of sibling rivalry and so on,

12:53

which is built up over the years. But

12:55

obviously, of late, he can't talk to

12:57

his brother very easily because

12:59

They have such diverse opinions

13:02

about where they are in their life and their

13:04

family and and all the relationships that have

13:06

clearly broken down wasn't remotely surprised

13:08

when he's been saying that I don't speak

13:10

to them. I sense that

13:12

he does speak to his dad more

13:14

and has done periodically over the

13:16

recent months. But I suspect and

13:18

I'm fairly certain it's fairly sporadic and

13:20

it comes in fix and starts depending

13:22

on what's needed or whatever.

13:24

Imagine in the coming up to the

13:26

coronation, they will have some

13:28

more back and forth in some form, whether it

13:30

be about an invitation and or

13:32

or not. But with his brother, it's clearly

13:34

harder and Sadly,

13:37

that was writ large, wasn't it? When they

13:39

came over for the funeral, there's very little

13:41

interaction between them and we know that they did

13:43

that walk about but not much else. Together.

13:45

They didn't even go and see the queen on her

13:47

deathbed together. They were separated at

13:49

that point in different houses on the on

13:51

the Scottish estate that where their

13:53

family gathered. As far as speaking to

13:55

the press, you know, I did think

13:57

that Anderson sort of put him on the

13:59

spot because Harry Harry tells him, well, I'd

14:01

like to have conversations privately

14:03

about reconciliation. And Anderson

14:05

said they may say to you, well,

14:07

how can we trust that these

14:09

conversations will remain private? If

14:11

you're sharing other private conversations, it

14:14

feels as though what he's trying to say

14:16

is my family speaks through

14:18

the And always has. And now

14:20

I'm just basically owning

14:22

it. Is that is that the

14:24

right take on that? I think that's I

14:26

suppose that is what he's saying. But I don't

14:28

think it's wholly true, sadly. Does

14:30

every conversation make its way to

14:32

to the media? I assume not.

14:34

I can see their weariness over

14:36

here. Of in Britain whether

14:38

Charles and William are based. They might

14:40

be wary about what conversations might

14:42

suddenly have been appearing in the book,

14:45

which clearly has repeated. Therefore,

14:47

having private conversations or any

14:49

kind of conversation will be

14:51

hard in the short term, hence, why

14:53

reconciliation or reproximate of

14:55

any kind most people

14:58

over here think it's still some way

15:00

off. That makes sense. Now,

15:02

Erin, you know, a big

15:04

topic in both the interviews

15:06

he's done and the book is, of

15:08

course, the very famous interview with

15:10

Oprah Winfrey that Harry and Meghan did

15:12

after they step back from their royal

15:14

royals left the UK. Harry

15:16

has sort of clarified something

15:18

that was one of the most controversial and

15:21

really the the biggest bombshells

15:23

that

15:23

interview. Right? What what has changed

15:25

now that he's talking more about it? So

15:27

Oprah's interview did come up and and within that

15:29

interview, like he said, that one of those talks about

15:31

moments was when Megan shared that the

15:33

color of their future children's

15:35

skin came up and within the

15:37

family and conversations about

15:39

how dark missing collar might

15:41

be when the baby's

15:43

born. And Harry was

15:45

as pressed about that. And

15:48

in how he and Megan accused the royal

15:50

family of racism, and he stopped

15:52

him right there and said, no, you know, the

15:54

British press inferred that and

15:56

Meghan never send their racist.

15:58

And so the interviewer then

16:00

says, you know, this is a that's what's inferred

16:02

and even William was asked point blank,

16:04

and and they are two leaders, the royal

16:06

family racist in which he says, no, we're very

16:08

much not a racist family. But here's

16:10

clarifying saying, wouldn't

16:12

describe the incident that they

16:14

talked about as racist, and it

16:16

wouldn't describe his family members as

16:18

racist not having lived within that family, and he

16:20

points to the difference between racism

16:22

and unconscious bias. And now those two

16:24

things are very different. You're talking about him. He

16:27

himself. Having to dealt with across

16:29

bias and his eyes weren't really opened

16:31

to that until he started

16:33

dating Meghan and saying that

16:35

there's no not racism with his family, but

16:37

there certainly is a bunch ice and

16:39

equates to the recent

16:41

example of the palace involving a

16:43

longstanding member of the palace household

16:45

and a charity founder who was

16:47

invited to a reception who was asked

16:49

some racially charged questions.

16:51

And Harry goes on to say that he and

16:53

Meghan love to stack her. This woman,

16:55

she's a long time waiting waiting of

16:57

the the late queen, and how he says

16:59

this is not something that she meant armed by,

17:01

but it's the unconscious bias. And that's

17:03

one of the main points I was trying to get

17:05

to. But I am curious, Simon, do you

17:07

feel like that change

17:09

and clarification he's offering

17:12

is in Olive Branch to the family. You know,

17:14

I remember when the when these over

17:16

interview happened, Harry

17:18

very quickly the next day, Harry and

17:20

Meghan clarified, the comment was

17:22

not made by my grandmother, the

17:24

queen, or my grandfather, Prince Philip. Now

17:26

he's going a step beyond that and

17:28

saying it was not actually racist.

17:30

Is this sort of in your view and

17:32

attempts at laying some sort of reconciliation

17:35

from work?

17:35

Maybe like we've said before, him holding out a

17:38

little hope for some form of world

17:40

position in the future. Maybe it

17:42

is an olive branch Well, maybe he's just come around to

17:44

it thinking that it wasn't how it's

17:46

been described. He reads the

17:48

media as we know and

17:50

he's come around to thinking

17:52

that it wasn't as deeply held

17:54

racist point. It was it was as easy

17:56

explaining now, an unconscious bias in

17:58

people who've not really had to think

18:01

about this the thing before enough. It will help to

18:03

soften things, but I know people over

18:05

here would be thinking, why didn't you

18:07

point this out

18:08

before? I will say to that point, why didn't he

18:10

say something? Well, that's the very thing he's criticizing the

18:12

family for never doing with anything that's

18:14

come out, a negative about them.

18:17

Nobody's ever corrected the press.

18:19

And so he kinda let it play out the

18:21

way he's seen so many other

18:23

things play play out for them in the press.

18:26

Silences betrayal. That's what he

18:28

said. Right? Silence is betrayal. You see

18:30

the pain. You see the

18:32

anger with Harry. Regarding Harry's feelings toward

18:34

the press. I think there is no doubt

18:36

when you watch these interviews, when you read

18:38

spare, how angry

18:40

he is with the

18:43

media treatment, obviously of his mother,

18:45

her death, and all the ways that was

18:47

tied up in the press. And

18:49

then, of course, through to his wife,

18:51

to his marriage, to Meghan, I have

18:53

to say, Simon, you and I have been at

18:56

people for long enough to

18:58

remember when in fact we were

19:00

chronicling Harry's Drug Use,

19:03

and Harry's Nazi costume,

19:05

and Harry's bill yards

19:08

in Vegas as the years progressed, I

19:10

mean, the culture has evolved and

19:12

changed. But also, what we

19:14

weren't in the press and I feel this

19:16

very much about something like the strict

19:18

billiards. You know, there wasn't this the

19:20

the appropriate context around a

19:22

young man who

19:24

was hurting. Right? Who was

19:26

truly traumatized by his mother's

19:28

death and listing in in the

19:30

military, facing down the prospect of

19:32

being in combat. Is there anything from

19:34

that time, Simon, you look back at and

19:36

think, I wish we'd done that differently? I

19:38

mean, he clearly was

19:41

struggling all the way through his

19:43

teen and early twenties life

19:45

that when he became a young man and was

19:47

clearly living out his life in more public

19:50

way. I think a lot of people would have now

19:52

knowing what they know may have approached

19:54

things differently. I don't think we

19:56

ever covered him in a nasty

19:59

way. But maybe there would have been more understanding about

20:01

the situation. But in terms of

20:03

his tour and how he's looking on

20:05

these interviews and very publicly out there

20:07

promoting his book, he does switch

20:09

from being sometimes eased

20:12

with his decision and his happiness that

20:14

he's made and a new life in the sunshine

20:16

of California with a lovely one

20:18

wife and two lovely children. But

20:20

at the same time, it looks like

20:22

he's lost something. He lost a life

20:25

close to his family. He's missing that. He's

20:27

missing some of those family gatherings. Which

20:29

would be completely normal and natural that he

20:31

loved those moments being around his wide

20:33

extended family. And you do see that

20:35

sort of conflict in in his eyes,

20:37

sometimes in his mistfallness at

20:39

the very least. So Aaron,

20:41

you in fact have your own

20:44

interview with Prince Harry for People

20:46

Magazine this week. It's our cover story.

20:48

Can you please tell us a little bit about

20:50

what our readers can expect to find in that

20:52

interview. He also Harry really goes

20:55

into even more depth about his

20:57

decision to his

20:59

his life story in such a

21:01

revealing way and spare. And

21:03

he also used this opportunity

21:06

to really clarify and shed light on on

21:08

the global reaction and response

21:11

to a lot of the portions of

21:13

the book that were leaked and things

21:15

that were mentioned in his his recent

21:18

interviews and things he obviously

21:20

must set the record straight on.

21:22

And really goes in in-depth

21:25

into where he is today and what

21:27

he's looking to for the

21:29

future. Some things that people really haven't heard from

21:31

him up until this point,

21:33

including, we can choose one fun

21:35

surprise when you say I wanna

21:37

let's say that this is a really

21:39

a glimpse into his American life. Yes.

21:41

Definitely. And how he's adjusted? So

21:43

it's a yeah. Fun little

21:45

surprise, Andy. So So this interview will come

21:48

out tomorrow, Tuesday,

21:50

seven AM on people dot com, and

21:52

then the full interview and

21:54

cover story will be on

21:56

who stands this Friday. Fantastic. Well,

21:58

Simon and Erin, thank you both

22:01

so much for breaking

22:03

all of this down with

22:05

us. We really appreciate it. You're

22:07

welcome. It's been fun. Last

22:13

really not least. I thought I'd leave you all with one

22:15

of the lighter, really sweet

22:18

stories coming out of spare. This

22:20

is a story about the time Queen Elizabeth

22:22

met Archie and his sister

22:24

Lily Bet, and why her majesty

22:26

was so surprised. As

22:29

you all know, last year, Queen Elizabeth celebrated

22:31

her platinum jubilee and it was a

22:33

huge, huge party across the United Kingdom

22:35

and and really around the world.

22:38

And in addition to all of the planned public

22:41

celebrations, Queen Elizabeth had a

22:43

special moment. She and

22:45

her grandson Prince Harry

22:47

had both been looking forward to for a very

22:49

long time. And that

22:51

was the Queen meeting both

22:53

of her great grandchildren from

22:55

Meghan and Harry, Archie and Elizabeth,

22:58

for the first time. Because of the

23:00

pandemic and the fact that, of course,

23:02

Harry and Meghan no longer live in

23:04

the UK, The queen wasn't able to

23:06

meet those two great grandchildren until

23:08

they came together to celebrate

23:10

her seventy years on the throne. Harry

23:12

paints this picture for us in the book,

23:15

sharing that his son Archie

23:17

made these big sweeping

23:19

vows toward his great

23:21

granny, the queen, while

23:23

Archie's sister, baby

23:25

Lilavat, cuddles her great

23:27

granny's legs. And as Carrie

23:29

recalls, Queen Elizabeth sort

23:31

of playfully says, oh, there's

23:33

such sweet children. And

23:36

Harry's feeling is that his

23:38

grandmother perhaps expected them

23:40

to be more American because these are

23:42

after all her American great

23:44

grandchildren And by that, what Harry interprets

23:46

that to mean is a little bit more

23:48

loud and rambunctious than this

23:50

sort of stiff upper left British

23:53

demeanor. Although I'm not sure about British toddlers being

23:55

anywhere stiff upper lip than American

23:57

toddlers. But apparently, that's how

23:59

Harry felt and interpreted his

24:01

grandma's surprise. Harry

24:03

then goes on to talk about how

24:05

much it really meant to him to

24:07

see his children and his

24:09

beloved grandmother together. And

24:11

as our audience knows, Carrie

24:13

has often talked about how

24:15

close he and his granny were

24:17

on this special they shared. And he was really so

24:20

thankful to see her warmth and humor

24:22

on display with his own two

24:24

children. Well, I can

24:26

only imagine what else we're going to learn

24:28

about the royal family when we get

24:30

our hands on a copy of

24:32

spare at last tomorrow. our

24:35

show for today. I had so

24:37

much fun being with you

24:39

all. Thanks for letting me be a part of your day.

24:41

Janine will be back with you tomorrow

24:43

for your Tuesday edition of people every day.