"You shouldn't be a marketer". Marketing at big tech firms like Google is a dream for some, and a nightmare for others. This week's guest Visha Kudhail explains wether its worth the hype and tells us her lessons from being a marketer at big tech firms like Google, Pinterest and Thinkbox.

Visha reveals how you can fail in fast-paced firms and more importantly, what you can learn from it. She divulges her best advice from Tess Alps, the real impact of layoffs across the industry and the not so secret hierarchy between brand and performance teams. We talk about how marketing has become lazy and long form content requires a mindset shift.

Plus, we get into why Steven Bartlett's pod gets overrated due to clickbait and Visha attempts the PMW Resell Me a Pen challenge with the telegram!

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