Victoria Miguel (Writer, Lecturer, Curator, and former assistant to the Director of the John Cage Trust)in conversation withDaniel Brine (Artistic Director and Chief Executive of The Cambridge Juction)Miguel recounts: One day, over lunch John Cage and Willem de Kooning were discussing the nature of art. De Kooning made a rectangle with his fingers and said “If I put a frame around these breadcrumbs, that isn’t art.” Cage shook his head. This talk focuses on Cage’s ideas and works and considers how his conception of the frame and desire to blur the boundaries between art and life created new understandings of, and increasingly interactive relationships to, art. Daniel Brine’s new motto for Cambridge Junction, relaunched as a regional centre for the creative and performing arts, is where ‘Art Meets Life’. Committed to integrating the arts and community, Brine was previously Artistic Director and CEO of Performance Space, Sydney Australia, an Associate Director of the UK’s Live Art Development Agency, a Visual Arts Officer for the Arts Council England, and has served on the boards of Blast Theory and Gob Squad UK.