As Pride month draws to a close, today’s podcast is a bit of a trip across Europe! We have Artistic Director, Tommy and Dance Artist, Alex here in sunny Scotland joined by Body members Eleanor in Germany and Myrthe in the Netherlands. Chatting about coming stories, differences in being out between the 80s and present day and particularly how current events of June 2020 have influenced and affected the LGBTQIAP+ community. And of course, in true Shaper/Caper fashion, there is a good handful of Madonna references in there too!