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Welcome to episode
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eight of the
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podcast network.
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My name is Randy Wilkins. And
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as always, I'm joined by Yankees beat reporter
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from the athletic Chris Kirshner. Chris, how are
0:31
you? Doing well.
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The Knicks are up three, one over the Sixers. Not
0:36
much to complain about in my life.
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How you doing? I'm
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doing pretty well. The Rangers advanced. They
0:43
swept the the Capitals, the increasingly
0:46
dirty play of the Washington Capitals.
0:49
So they got past that. So
0:52
at least for non Yankees, New
0:54
York City sports, I think we're both happy.
0:56
So it was a good weekend for pretty
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much everybody. Yeah,
1:00
I mean, there's there's really nothing to complain about
1:03
in New York sports right
1:05
now. I'm
1:07
not really a hockey fan. So I don't know what's
1:09
really going on with the Rangers.
1:11
I did see that they swept and obviously you
1:13
just you just said that. But
1:15
I haven't watched. I haven't watched a
1:19
hockey game, I think, at all this
1:21
season. Yeah, I over
1:24
the last 10 years, I've paid more attention to
1:27
it. But the last couple of years, I guess,
1:29
with the rise of this iteration of the Rangers
1:31
team, I've made a much more concerted effort to
1:33
get into hockey and the Rangers specifically. So
1:36
I've I've it's interesting
1:38
because I don't know that much about the
1:40
league. So like
1:42
when the Yankees play the Brewers, I have
1:44
a sense of who's good, what they're good
1:46
at, what they're not good at. You
1:49
know, I'm pretty familiar with all
1:51
the teams in the league. Same thing with
1:53
the NFL and majority of the
1:55
NBA. I think the NBA is generally
1:57
boring at this point. So. I'm
2:00
not as into it as I have been in the past. But
2:03
with the NHL, it's
2:05
just weird as a fan because I don't know every nuance
2:08
of the game I'm still learning. And
2:10
I don't really know the league. So
2:12
I kind of embrace it too.
2:15
I just have very basic visceral
2:18
fan reactions to stuff. I
2:20
understand the Rangers better. And I have a good idea
2:23
of what they're good at. And I ask questions and
2:25
ask people I know way more about it than I
2:27
do. But I love hockey. I mean, I
2:29
think it's fun to watch, especially
2:31
live. I like
2:33
this Rangers team. They're going to have
2:35
a much tougher test against probably the
2:37
Hurricanes. So
2:40
that's going to the Hurricanes are one
2:42
of the odds on favorites to win the cup, even though
2:45
I feel like the Rangers get disrespected in
2:47
a lot of ways. But
2:49
yeah, I mean, hockey is
2:51
fun. And I like looking at it from a very novice
2:54
fan perspective because then I could just I don't
2:57
have to overthink it. This is like somebody gets
2:59
hit. I applaud it. My guy
3:01
gets hit. I hate him. I hate the person. I
3:03
hate the team. It's like very
3:05
simple. It's great. Yeah. No, I love
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hockey in person. I've been
3:09
to a couple of games. I've
3:11
only been to one Rangers
3:14
game. I mean, they're just so expensive.
3:16
And I don't know the players. So
3:20
it's like I'm not going to drop 200 plus dollars
3:23
on a regular season game when
3:25
I don't really know what's going on. I mean,
3:27
I love it in person. But
3:29
I just don't watch on
3:32
TV. I mean, it's fun. It's certainly
3:34
fun to watch. It's a fun sport.
3:37
You know, it's pretty easy
3:39
to understand, like even if you don't know the
3:41
rules, like I don't
3:43
know the rules. But I
3:46
just wish the games would be a little
3:48
cheaper because the environments, I mean,
3:50
just from the highlights I've seen
3:52
look incredible. Yeah. Yeah, they're
3:54
awesome. But I agree. They're way too expensive,
3:57
especially the Rangers and
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Knicks tickets. Nick. tickets are also like
4:01
wildly expensive. It's
4:04
the garden, I get all that but I
4:07
just feel like that building is
4:09
expensive. Even WWE tickets, the building
4:11
is expensive. Yeah, super expensive. I
4:13
mean, I just don't... I
4:15
don't know how like regular people can afford to
4:17
go to the garden for
4:20
like anything. I was looking at just
4:23
in the regular season because I don't
4:25
live far away from MSG and like
4:27
all the tickets, like no matter who
4:30
they're playing, it's like they're over $100.
4:33
It's like why do I want to see the Charlotte Hornets for
4:35
like $120? Right,
4:38
you should see it for $1.20. Yeah, I
4:41
mean it's like why?
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I don't get it.
4:45
Thankfully, I don't have children or anything
4:48
because it's like I don't know how a family of
4:50
four is affording to go there on a
4:53
regular Tuesday night in the
4:55
regular season. Yeah,
4:58
so I'm curious. We'll connect
5:00
it to baseball in a second. So
5:04
everybody knows I hate the Knicks. I can't
5:06
stand them. But
5:08
I do not hate Jaylen Brunson at
5:10
all. That guy's a monster. I have
5:12
nothing but the utmost respect for him.
5:14
He's a beast and made
5:16
me think and this is
5:19
not an original question. People have asked this since
5:21
I guess yesterday with that great performance. But
5:25
besides Brunson, is there
5:27
another Yankees free agent?
5:29
I'm sorry, is there another New York
5:31
City free agent that has
5:33
made such an impact in the last 10 or 15
5:35
years on a New York sports team? I mean the
5:38
only person I could think of is
5:40
Cece, like as a
5:42
free agent. But I can't think of
5:44
anybody else that's transformed a
5:47
New York sports team
5:49
the way he has. Aaron Rodgers.
5:52
No, that was a trick. I
5:58
can't, I mean, there may be high. hockey people
6:00
and you know hockey fans really oh I can't believe
6:02
you missed this again like I don't I don't know
6:04
hockey. Cece is
6:06
definitely a good one he won a title. It's
6:14
hard. On this level that Brunson is
6:16
at where Brunson is like a top
6:18
12 player
6:21
right now in the NBA. I
6:24
don't think there's any again maybe
6:26
hockey I don't know but for
6:28
NBA and football NBA I
6:31
can't think of one who's coming out of mind
6:33
who's who's on like that level where they're they
6:35
were like a top 10 to 12 player in
6:37
the sport. Yeah it's been
6:41
I had to give him his respect. I mean the
6:43
rest of those guys on the team I could care
6:45
less about but Jaylen Brunson I mean unbelievable
6:48
player like he's he
6:51
deserves like all the credit and
6:53
respect that one could give a
6:55
professional athlete really impressive.
6:59
100% and also it's like when he
7:01
was with the Mavericks you know when I was
7:03
covering the NBA at the time he was nowhere
7:05
near this player. I mean the Mavericks let him
7:07
go they didn't sign him I think
7:09
they could have offered him I think
7:12
it was like 40 million dollars at the time
7:14
but you know he's playing alongside Bukid Dontchich
7:17
and the fit wasn't like that great but
7:20
they let him go and you know
7:22
I didn't really think much of it at the
7:24
time when the Knicks signed him it's like all
7:26
right yeah I think Brunson's a good player is
7:28
he like a star no is he
7:31
gonna be you know is he gonna
7:34
transform the franchise no. So
7:36
to go from that to where he is now
7:38
I mean it's absolutely incredible
7:42
to watch over these
7:44
past few years of just like what he's
7:47
done to really elevate his
7:49
game from the Mavericks not wanting him
7:51
to where he is now it's I
7:53
mean I think the Knicks have a chance to win the
7:57
title and it's really because Brunson is one
7:59
of the best. players in the world. And
8:01
whenever you have one of the best players in the
8:03
world, especially in the NBA, you
8:05
have a decent chance of winning it all.
8:09
So speaking of one of the best players
8:11
in the world, the Yankees have two of
8:13
them. And the new guy,
8:15
the shiny new toy, if you will, Juan
8:18
Soto has helped
8:21
lead the New York Yankees to
8:23
a 19 and 10 record as we pretty
8:25
much get through the one
8:27
month mark of the 2024 MLB season. And
8:32
we wanted to spend this episode just kind
8:34
of given a
8:36
one month assessment of the Yankees. And
8:39
if there's any trends who stood out, who hasn't
8:41
stood out and who needs to get things going.
8:43
But I think it makes all
8:45
the sense in the world to start
8:47
with Juan Soto and
8:49
the incredible impact he's made on this
8:51
team. And I
8:54
know some people have at certain
8:56
points in the season have
8:59
said, this is the 2023 lineup
9:01
plus Juan Soto. I
9:04
strongly disagree with that sentiment, but you
9:07
do have to single out Soto. And
9:09
I know that you wrote a
9:11
piece for the athletic recently about
9:13
his impact on the
9:16
Yankees in the first month. So can you tell
9:18
us a little bit about that? And just
9:21
in what ways has Juan
9:23
Soto in many ways
9:25
changed this team over the first month? I
9:29
mean, for one, he's been the
9:31
best American league hitter. Coming
9:37
into the season, obviously everybody
9:39
knew Soto was good. There's
9:42
no one who could say otherwise, but
9:44
I think he's been better than expected. I
9:48
don't think anybody expected him to
9:50
post right now before
9:52
Monday night's game against the Orioles. He
9:55
has a 188 WRC plus. So
10:00
that means he's 88% better than
10:03
the average Major League hitter. He's
10:06
never posted a number that high. Last
10:10
year he was, I think, eighth
10:12
in WRC+, across baseball.
10:14
He's third right now behind
10:16
Mookie Betts and Marcelo Zuna.
10:20
So for the first month he's been
10:22
the MVP of the American League, which
10:26
is, I mean, you can't ask for more
10:28
than that, obviously. Even just
10:30
the impact he's had for
10:33
the things you can't measure. We talked
10:35
about it early on with Oswaldo Cabrera
10:37
changing his approach at the plate just
10:39
because he was watching Soto
10:41
take batting practice. The
10:45
team's obviously been more patient at the plate,
10:47
and that's something that has
10:49
rubbed off just from watching Soto because he's
10:51
one of the more patient hitters in the
10:53
sport. So there are things
10:56
that he's doing that can't be measured that
10:58
I think have been impressive and also
11:00
he's been a good defender, which
11:02
really nobody thought that
11:05
would be the case a month into the season
11:07
because of how bad he was in
11:09
San Diego this past year. So there's
11:11
really, I don't even know if you
11:14
wanted to nitpick over Soto's
11:17
game. I don't even
11:20
know what you can nitpick just because of
11:22
how incredible he's been. He's
11:24
been more than expected. He's been better
11:27
than advertised. He's a
11:29
special player, and if
11:32
he continues this up, obviously he's going to
11:34
get paid a significant amount
11:36
of money in the off-season. I
11:40
think we talked about it a couple
11:42
episodes ago, but it's definitely reached the
11:44
point where if the Yankees
11:47
don't re-sign him in free agency, the
11:49
fan base is going to revolt. He's already become
11:51
a fan favorite. So it's like
11:54
House Steinbrenner has to bring
11:56
him back, otherwise he Risks
11:58
the fan base. Turning against
12:00
him. And. Turning it but a
12:02
against the organization I think it's as
12:05
already speech that point Twenty nine games
12:07
into the into the season. So.
12:10
What do you think is contributing to
12:12
this hot start? Because we seen many
12:14
times not just a New York but
12:17
with new players or new team to
12:19
take some little while to adjust. It
12:21
takes them a little while to get
12:23
their feet wide and see they can
12:25
really acclimate themselves to a team to
12:27
an organization to. A. Fan Base:
12:29
x Y Z. By.
12:31
It feels like. Soto.
12:34
Has. Just
12:37
totally maximized. His.
12:40
Introduction I guess sued the team
12:43
like on in every single fast
12:45
that a player can do such
12:47
a thing and. I'm. Curious! as
12:49
a there's in I am. I'm asking this
12:52
question because there's a stat that you brought
12:54
up in your piece about how. He's
12:56
sitting the fastball even better than
12:58
he has in previous seasons. And
13:01
I'm curious if this is a situation
13:03
where. One. Sotos doing all
13:05
this because is a contract year and
13:07
he's this is is like real last
13:10
opportunity to say I'm worth five hundred
13:12
six hundred million dollars. Whatever it is,
13:14
do Thing is the natural evolution of
13:16
an incredibly gifted player. Who's. Now.
13:20
Into. His sixties and twenty five Eastern
13:22
answers prime which is crazy to say
13:24
for somebody that's been so good. For.
13:26
So long already. Is
13:29
it a combination of those things? What?
13:31
Do you think it's conservative to him being able
13:33
to at green is a month and but what
13:35
do you can see be to. Him.
13:38
Elevating his game as such. Good
13:40
elite level so quickly with the
13:42
Yankees. I mean
13:44
a thing is a combination of everything he
13:47
mentioned in our hit his twenty five and
13:49
and I know sometimes in a may be
13:51
forgotten because he's done in the league since
13:53
he's A since he's been nineteen years old.
13:56
And. He's not in his prime yet, which
13:58
is crazy to say. Usually know the
14:01
prime of someone's careers. you know,
14:03
twenty seven to thirty in that
14:05
area and so does not there
14:07
yet. I think he's just. He's.
14:09
Already been one of the best players in
14:12
the sport. I think he's
14:14
just continuously getting better. Like I don't
14:16
think this, this is his peak yet.
14:19
So. I think it. I think that is
14:21
certainly a major part of it. As.
14:23
As for free agency you never really
14:26
know how players going to perform in
14:28
their walk year I'd be saw the
14:30
labour to our season as walk year.
14:33
hasn't really done anything. Your. He
14:35
had a good weekend ago in in
14:37
Milwaukee but before that obviously he was
14:39
struggling at and and was one of
14:41
the bigger. The supplements said it's. It's.
14:44
Hard to say whether that's impacting
14:46
Soto because even if Soto had
14:48
like of or of regular good
14:51
season let's say he he had
14:53
like a upon thirty. Wrc.
14:55
Flaws which is. And a bad for
14:57
him which is crazy or it's. Just
15:00
just because of how special he's been. But
15:02
let's say he had a one thirty. He
15:05
still gonna get paid. So. It's not
15:07
like. You. Know. If. He if
15:09
he had a seasoned like that. If he's
15:11
gonna get yup, two hundred million dollars. Such
15:13
as not the case, he's gonna get paid
15:16
because one. Not. Many players
15:18
who were going to be twenty
15:20
six years old and are answering
15:22
free agency and also not for
15:25
yet in their primes. He's already.
15:27
Accomplished so much at his age. so
15:30
aren't even think like that, Is it?
15:32
I'm playing a factor in service. I
15:34
just think robot watching someone who's a
15:37
very special hitter. Arm.
15:39
He's very confident, which I think.
15:41
Is important in New York's you know.
15:43
We saw with a couple of other
15:45
players joey Gallo. Aaron Hicks.
15:48
You know they. They. Get down
15:50
and they just can't get out of. The
15:52
right there in but Soto just
15:55
from talking with them since spring
15:57
Training started. Ah he as swagger.
16:01
that just you don't
16:03
really see very often. He's very confident
16:05
in himself. He knows he's good. It's
16:08
not like someone who's like, am I
16:11
good? Like he knows he's good. And
16:13
I think that that definitely helps, especially
16:15
in this city, especially with
16:17
so many eyeballs on him, knowing
16:20
what's waiting for him at the end
16:22
of the season, when we look
16:24
ahead to December when he may sign
16:26
a contract. I just think we're
16:28
watching someone who's really a special
16:31
player who, again,
16:33
I don't think has reached his peak yet.
16:35
I think he's still calming, which is,
16:37
you know, insane to say because when you look
16:40
at all of his metrics, he's one of the
16:42
best five players in the
16:44
sport and I still think he
16:46
still has room to grow. Yeah, I
16:50
agree. I mean, that's the that's the scary part
16:52
that I think he's going to
16:55
maintain this level or even increase this level as
16:58
the season goes on. I mean, I think moving
17:01
down career wise, I think he's just going to
17:03
get better and he'll improve
17:06
at the margins, which I
17:08
mean, I don't know how much more juice he can get out of
17:10
that, but I feel like whatever's there, he's going to be able to
17:12
do that. But I just I
17:15
feel like extremely confident that he's
17:18
going to have this level of production
17:20
throughout the entire year. I mean, it just it
17:22
just seems like it's one of those years for
17:24
a great player where he's
17:27
figuring things out. And this
17:30
is something that I think is very important. He's been.
17:33
I think you guys also mentioned in
17:35
the athletic pieces, how comfortable he is
17:37
here that it just
17:39
feels like he's in an environment where
17:42
the emphasis is on winning is very
17:44
baseball hungry. That's the focus. The
17:47
fan base is focused on that. The organization is
17:49
focused on that. His teammates are focused
17:51
on that manager, like
17:54
top to bottom. The emphasis is
17:56
on winning baseball, and it
17:58
feels like that's something that someone
18:02
of his makeup and interest and character
18:04
is only interested in. We
18:06
haven't really talked about it that much, but it
18:08
feels like his time in San Diego, that wasn't
18:10
always the case for
18:12
various reasons. Yeah. And that's
18:14
something that he talked about
18:18
in spring training and even going back to
18:20
last year when he was still with the
18:22
Padres, that season definitely
18:24
brought him down. There
18:26
were a ton of expectations on that
18:28
team. You know, you can make the
18:30
case that they were one of the
18:33
most talented rosters and they flamed out.
18:35
It didn't seem like it was a good clubhouse. There
18:39
was a lot of infighting with the
18:41
Padres. Soto and Machado did not
18:43
get along. And it's
18:45
kind of like Machado's team in San
18:47
Diego. So there were a
18:49
lot of factors at play for Soto
18:53
last year. You know,
18:56
Richard Rolley, my colleague, wrote a
18:58
story a few weeks ago just
19:00
about everything that went down in
19:02
San Diego, how his attitude changed.
19:04
That really hasn't been the case
19:06
with the Yankees at least one
19:09
month in and even going back
19:11
to spring training. He's been very
19:14
approachable from a media standpoint.
19:16
I don't feel intimidated
19:18
or I don't feel like I
19:22
don't know what mood Juan is in. He may
19:24
not want to talk to me today. That hasn't
19:26
been the case. That was the case in San
19:28
Diego. He
19:30
just seems happy. And just from talking with
19:32
his teammates, he's been
19:35
very involved with everything that's been going on
19:37
in the clubhouse. It's
19:40
not like he's just talking
19:42
with a group of players and he's
19:45
not assimilating himself in with
19:48
the whole team. That just hasn't been the
19:50
case. He seems happy. When you
19:53
talk to him, he looks
19:56
happy. He looks comfortable like
19:58
we wrote in the story. story. Again,
20:01
I don't see any negatives
20:04
right now with how things are
20:06
going. And maybe it's because the
20:08
Yankees are doing well and he's
20:10
doing well individually, but it's
20:12
as good of a start as you could possibly
20:15
want from Soto.
20:18
He's been special to watch. So
20:21
not everyone in this first
20:24
month of the season is
20:26
off to a great start and the perfect start
20:28
or the way that they would want their
20:30
season to begin. Is there
20:32
anybody either on the position
20:35
player side or the pitching side? We don't
20:37
have to keep this just at the offense,
20:39
but is there or are there a couple
20:42
of players that have stood
20:44
out to you that have struggled that
20:48
either you feel like
20:50
this might be the beginning of a long season
20:52
or it might just be a
20:54
slow start out of the gate? Who stands out
20:56
to you out of the players
20:59
on the team, either on the position
21:01
player side or the pitching side that have
21:03
struggled that might either
21:06
give you concern or you feel like, okay, this is just
21:08
a bad start. They can turn it around. Yeah,
21:11
I mean, it has to be Gleymatoras. That
21:13
has to be the number one
21:15
player. Before
21:18
this weekend, he was struggling. He
21:20
looked lost at the plate. And
21:22
we just talked about the
21:25
confidence that Soto has. Like even over
21:27
the past several years with Glaber, it
21:29
feels like whenever he makes a mistake,
21:31
he lets it bubble up
21:33
and it carries over whether it's at the plate
21:35
or in the field on the
21:37
base paths. We've seen
21:39
that a couple of times this year with Glaber.
21:43
He's certainly an emotional player, which
21:45
there's nothing wrong with that. But
21:47
sometimes the emotions bubble
21:49
over and they skew
21:52
negatively and impact his performance.
21:55
He mentioned this past weekend after the
21:57
three-run double he hit, I believe it
21:59
was in SAC. Saturday's game where he's
22:01
like, I can rest comfortably now. It
22:04
was certainly eating at him. And
22:06
for good reason, because like Soto, he
22:08
has a big contract waiting for him
22:10
at the end of the season. He
22:14
also has to face reality
22:16
and say,
22:19
this may be it for me in New York.
22:21
And he's made it very clear that he wants
22:23
to remain a Yankee. But
22:26
we've seen the Yankees in the past,
22:28
they give someone a huge contract and
22:30
obviously they're saving money for Soto. In
22:33
years past, Soto gets a contract with the
22:35
Yankees and that means someone like Glaber Torres
22:37
is playing elsewhere because they don't want to
22:39
pay him. So I think
22:41
for Glaber, that's certainly something that
22:45
he has to think about long term.
22:49
And you never know how these things impact
22:52
people. I talked with Glaber
22:55
in a story I did last week
22:57
about if free agency was on his mind,
23:00
he says no. But when
23:02
he talked to James Drousen, the hitting coach, he's
23:04
like, well, we're all human. So I
23:07
think those things certainly would
23:10
get in someone's head, just the
23:13
amount of money that's at stake. So if
23:16
we're talking about someone who's been a disappointment and
23:18
who could have a long season, I do think
23:20
that it's
23:23
possibly Torres. But
23:25
on the other hand, he is a really good hitter.
23:27
I don't think he forgot how to hit. But
23:31
like we were talking about Aaron Judge for
23:34
the past couple of weeks now, with Judge,
23:36
he was still hitting the ball hard. It
23:39
seemed like it was just a timing issue with
23:41
Glaber. It didn't seem like it was a timing
23:43
issue. There were just several things
23:46
wrong with where he was offensively. I
23:48
still feel that way now. Maybe
23:52
this weekend changes things for him.
23:55
Maybe he is breaking out of
23:57
it and now he feels comfortable.
23:59
at the plate. I
24:01
think this is a good series
24:04
for success where he is. Four
24:07
games against Baltimore. Baltimore is obviously one
24:09
of the best teams in the sport.
24:11
A good four games here could
24:13
be the difference in changing his season around,
24:15
but we'll see. I'm definitely
24:17
skeptical of Glaber. Yeah,
24:22
I'm not skeptical of Glaber,
24:25
but I am beginning to think
24:27
that the type of year that I thought he
24:29
was going to have probably isn't going to happen.
24:33
I thought that he was going
24:35
to be able to replicate 2023
24:37
and he's going to have
24:39
to play catch up. I think to get to that
24:41
type of year, I think he's
24:43
going to be much better than what he
24:45
has been simply because he's a good hitter
24:47
in the bar so far as on the
24:49
ground. I mean, he's been, I think
24:52
he's been the worst player both
24:55
offensively and defensively, but
24:57
I still have a lot of confidence in him that he can
24:59
have a respectable year and a
25:01
pretty solid year. It's just that I think
25:05
he would have to really turn it on
25:07
to kind of replicate what he did last
25:09
year. I'm not
25:12
sure if that's possible
25:14
given what we've seen so
25:16
far. I guess for
25:19
the sake of the question and out of the
25:22
performances, I would tend to agree that Glaber is
25:24
the one that you would be the most concerned
25:26
about moving forward, but I also
25:28
feel like I still have confidence in him
25:30
and I think he'll still be a pretty
25:33
significant contributor for them. I guess
25:35
the person for me that has
25:37
gotten off to a quote unquote slow
25:40
start, but I feel like that's
25:42
not really telling of what
25:45
he's actually doing is Austin
25:48
Wells. I was thinking about somebody
25:50
in the bullpen. I was thinking about Ian Hamilton
25:52
actually, because I think he's been pretty
25:56
inconsistent, but I
25:58
think the bullpen as a whole. is, you
26:01
know, it's not their best unit out of
26:03
the three groups that they have. But
26:05
I always go back to Austin Wells in terms
26:07
of someone that is performing
26:09
much better than the results are
26:12
indicating. And I
26:15
know that the Yes broadcast brought this
26:17
up almost ad nauseam this
26:19
weekend in
26:21
regards to how unlucky Austin Wells
26:23
has been. But it's really true.
26:26
I mean, he's smoking the ball.
26:28
He's hitting it hard. And for whatever
26:31
reason, he's just not getting the production
26:33
to match with his actual
26:36
hitting performance. And
26:39
the thing that I like, yes,
26:41
it's a month, but it doesn't
26:43
seem like the lack of production
26:46
or the bad luck is
26:48
impacting his approach at the plate. I
26:51
think he's, I think he still has more walks
26:53
and strikeouts. He's still hitting
26:55
the ball hard. He's still being selective at the
26:57
plate. He's still hitting pitches that
26:59
he knows that he can do some damage
27:01
on. You know,
27:03
he's still taking care of those pitches. So
27:06
I feel like at some point Austin
27:08
Wells is going to have a
27:11
course correction where the production starts
27:13
to match the actual performance. And
27:15
it's great that Jose Trevino has
27:17
been able to really
27:20
contribute from the catching position. So Austin
27:22
Wells kind of working through whatever he's
27:24
going through, has
27:27
some, you know, he has some leeway. It's not
27:29
like there's a lot of pressure on that position
27:31
because Trevino has been so good recently, but I
27:34
think Austin Wells is somebody that I
27:37
wouldn't be surprised moving forward. He,
27:40
he starts making like a significant impact
27:42
at the bottom of the lineup, just
27:44
because his approach and his performance
27:49
is much better than the lack
27:51
of results at this point. He's
27:53
been the unluckiest hitter in
27:56
the sport, according to
27:58
the difference between
28:00
his ex-Woba and Woba,
28:02
which is basically the contact
28:04
quality like you were just
28:07
talking about. I
28:10
appreciate that stack cast, like you're able to see
28:13
that like on the screen because it
28:15
really puts into context just of like
28:18
how unlucky Wells has been.
28:20
I mean, it seriously feels
28:22
like every hard hit ball
28:25
he's had this season is just directly
28:27
to a fielder. And like,
28:29
you know, you can't, you obviously can't control
28:31
that as a hitter. And
28:33
it's, I'm sure it's very frustrating for
28:35
a hitter when you look up at
28:37
the scoreboard and like your average, I
28:39
think before this weekend, it was like
28:41
below 100, which
28:44
doesn't like, it doesn't
28:46
factor in just like how good
28:48
he's been, but just
28:51
how frustrating baseball can
28:53
also be at the same time. Right.
28:56
Yeah, there were a couple of people that have criticized
28:58
them and gotten on
29:01
his case on Twitter. And I'm just like,
29:03
are you, there's no way you're watching these
29:05
games or like looking at the metrics. I
29:07
mean, I know the batting average
29:09
is what it is. And of course, like
29:11
people are gonna go by the stats, which
29:13
is totally fine and fair, but
29:15
also think there's like avenues for context
29:18
that at this point kind of inform what's
29:21
going on here. And I don't
29:23
know, I just, I just feel like as long
29:25
as Austin Wells is mindful
29:27
that his approach is working and that
29:29
he is actually hitting the ball well
29:32
and keeps that up and is consistent with that, then
29:35
it just feels like the law averages will start to
29:37
work in his favor at some point. So
29:39
that's another spot or another player
29:41
that can continue to elevate this
29:44
offense. And
29:47
I think he will, you know, coming into
29:49
the season, I expected
29:51
him to play more than
29:54
Trevino just because of his bat. And
29:58
like we were just talking about. at
30:00
least when you look at the raw numbers and if you're just
30:02
like looking at the the
30:05
numbers on the screen you know the
30:07
batting average the slugging the on base
30:10
you just look at that and you're like well
30:12
this guy should go back to triple a but
30:14
it's really not the case at all with wells
30:16
i do think that he's going to be fine like
30:19
you said i think it'll all average out
30:21
at some point you can't be like this
30:23
unlucky for the entirety of
30:25
the season i mean that would be insane
30:28
and it just wouldn't make sense from a
30:33
standpoint of just like looking at the numbers of like
30:35
how good they've been so i
30:37
think he'll be fine you know
30:39
obviously it's not a guarantee but if he
30:41
continues to have the right process which he's
30:43
had so far you know you
30:45
mentioned that he's walking more than he's striking
30:47
out especially for a hitter who has
30:50
barely any major league experience i think
30:52
that bodes well for him moving
30:54
forward so
30:57
we're going to go to break and when we come
30:59
back we'll talk a little
31:01
bit about and
31:03
ask if this 1910 record
31:06
that the yankees have is
31:08
a good or flukey representation
31:11
of how they've played to this
31:13
point and what that could portend
31:16
for the future of this yankees team
31:18
so we'll be back after
31:20
this break and
31:24
we're back with the views
31:26
from 314 feet podcast it's randy it's
31:28
chris so right
31:30
now as we're speaking
31:32
on monday morning april
31:34
29th we're about a month in and the
31:38
yankees are currently 19 and
31:40
10 i believe they have the third or
31:42
fourth best record in major league baseball they
31:45
just wrapped up in my mind
31:48
a very impressive series win over the brewers
31:50
i i thought that they could take the
31:52
series from the brewers but
31:54
i didn't expect two out of the three
31:56
games where the yankees would score 30 runs
31:58
and have the brewers have multiple
32:01
position players finish out their
32:03
game. So that went better
32:05
than I certainly expected, even though I felt
32:07
like they were gonna win the series, but
32:09
not in that fashion. So Chris,
32:11
I'll ask you this very general
32:14
question and we can take it in different
32:16
directions. In your mind, is
32:19
this 19 and 10 record
32:21
an accurate reflection of how this
32:23
team collectively has performed? Do
32:25
you think it's flukey? Do you think
32:27
that they've underperformed and
32:30
should have a better record? Where do you think this
32:33
Yankee team is in relation to their record
32:35
in their first month of the season? Yeah,
32:38
I mean, I think it's a good
32:40
reflection of how they've played. They've been
32:43
in every single game
32:45
outside of like two, I feel
32:47
like, which is usually a good
32:49
sign of how good a team is. Like they're
32:51
not getting blown out. I
32:54
think the offense has been good, even
32:59
with guys like Judge
33:01
Torres, Rizzo, Trevino, for
33:04
like the first week or two of the season,
33:06
he was struggling. Like it
33:08
hasn't been perfect for sure. But
33:11
when you look at it on
33:13
a whole, we're talking about a
33:16
Yankee team that has a top five offense. The
33:18
pitching staff has been good. It's
33:21
held up outside of not
33:24
having Garrett Cole, which I think a lot
33:26
of people coming into the year felt
33:29
like they are gonna be struggling.
33:33
They've been good. There's really
33:35
like not much to complain
33:37
about. Like, the bullpen has been a
33:39
little shaky. We've talked about that. It
33:42
hasn't been the greatest. It's not the greatest
33:44
Yankee bullpen that we've seen in our lifetimes,
33:47
nowhere close to it. But again,
33:49
they're 19 and 10. They didn't
33:52
win 19 games just
33:55
because every game's been a fluke. I think they're a
33:57
good team. Again, nothing's
33:59
been perfect. We're not talking
34:01
about a team that like has just mowed people
34:03
down. I do think it's possible
34:05
that You know the starting
34:08
rotation has Outperforms
34:10
like there the the advanced
34:12
metrics, you know, we
34:15
can talk about individuals, you know I
34:17
think some guys have certainly Overperformed
34:20
I think Carlos Redon has
34:22
been good. I don't
34:24
know if he's been as good as like the
34:26
numbers would say You know,
34:28
I think there's certainly a possibility that
34:32
You know, he's over performed his
34:35
metrics Marcus Stroman
34:37
hasn't looked that great in
34:39
his past few outings. So
34:42
I think there's certainly I Think
34:46
there's certainly a reason to be
34:48
a little Concern of just like
34:50
how well the pitching staff is done. I don't
34:52
think like that they've been like Amazing
34:55
like it like the raw numbers
34:57
would suggest so there's certainly Course
35:00
correction that could be coming for the
35:02
starting rotation But again, like
35:05
we're nipip we're nitpicking over this like
35:07
they're 19 and 10 there They
35:09
have the third best record in
35:11
baseball right now. They're a good team
35:13
I think they're gonna be in it,
35:15
you know I'm October and
35:18
who knows what they will what they'll do
35:21
at the trade deadline to improve their roster
35:23
even furthers But as of now, I think
35:25
you know, it's very encouraging just
35:27
how they performed I Would
35:31
make the argument that they
35:34
should have an even better record than they
35:36
do and I
35:39
attribute that thought to their
35:43
pretty Inconsistent performance
35:45
with runners in scoring position, which I
35:48
think is kind of It's
35:50
not a reliable stat. So I'm acknowledging
35:52
that like I
35:55
feel like that's a area
35:57
of performance that has a lot
35:59
of variants to it from
36:01
team to team, year to year. But
36:05
to me, it's
36:07
frustrating but also encouraging, because they've had
36:10
a ton of runners on
36:12
base through the first month. And
36:14
there are many instances where they just didn't
36:16
get a big hit. They hit into a
36:18
double play. There's some instances where they don't
36:20
necessarily execute fundamental baseball to get some cheap
36:22
runs across the board. But
36:25
I think that in many ways, that's a good
36:27
sign, because I don't think we've
36:29
talked about this before. I don't think that
36:32
their approach from at bat to at
36:34
bat is going to change. They've kind of laid the
36:36
foundation in this first month that they're going
36:38
to grind at bats. They're going to grind pitchers.
36:40
They're going to have long at bats. And
36:43
that's kind of part of their identity
36:46
with this version of the team,
36:48
which obviously has its history with
36:50
the Yankees going back forever. But
36:52
I think that there's been a
36:54
very clear emphasis on that. And it's worked.
36:57
They get on base
36:59
a lot. They don't chase a ton. They
37:02
have traffic, a lot of
37:04
traffic in many games so far. And
37:06
it's just that they're like one or two big
37:08
hits away from really cashing in. And
37:10
I feel like the Brewers
37:13
series is an indicator of how potent
37:15
this offense can be when they get
37:17
a couple big hits with
37:19
runners in scoring position. I feel like they finally
37:22
had multiple moments over
37:25
games where they were able to cash
37:27
in. And I know that there was
37:29
that statistic that, yes, that brought
37:31
up a few times about how many games
37:34
they've had where they scored five plus runs in
37:36
their top three and then how many games they've
37:38
had where they scored two runs or less in
37:40
their bottom three in
37:42
that. So there's obviously a lot of
37:44
variance going on. And I think it just comes down to
37:47
a couple hits with some
37:49
guys in scoring position, which I think over
37:51
the course of the year, and we've talked
37:53
about Judge and Glaber and Rizzo and
37:57
the up and down nature of
37:59
Volpe. starts of the year. It just
38:02
feels like more times than not one of those
38:04
guys if they're in that situation moving forward is
38:06
going to cash in. So I
38:09
think you can make a case that they
38:11
should have an even better record because as
38:13
you said they've been in so many close
38:16
games or they've been in every game where
38:18
one or two hits matters or one or
38:20
two situations that didn't work their way really
38:24
like kind of tipped the scales with with some
38:26
games. Like I think about that Oakland series the
38:29
two losses came
38:31
down to like not knocking in
38:33
a couple runs when they had the opportunity to
38:35
one of those games they had bases loaded with
38:37
no outs and didn't score
38:39
you know early on and then the
38:41
game just kind of like fell apart from there. So I
38:45
don't know I'm really encouraged
38:47
I know that I'm like the optimist
38:49
and the positive guy but
38:52
I do think with this team there are a lot
38:54
of moments you
38:56
can point to where a double
38:58
play here kind of like takes
39:01
the game away from them and
39:03
I don't I don't think that that'll keep happening
39:06
the entire year. So I think
39:08
19-10 is accurate I think they are a 19-10
39:11
team. I don't
39:13
feel like there is anything flooky going on
39:15
or it certainly
39:18
doesn't remind me of 2022 where there people
39:20
are playing over their heads and one guy's
39:22
like starting a
39:24
career year that none of us have
39:26
really seen before. Nobody's really doing that
39:28
at that level. Soto's
39:31
obviously been the best performer but I
39:34
don't think there's something that you can turn
39:36
to where you're just like wow this one
39:38
or this one player or these two players
39:40
are doing something so out of character that
39:43
it makes this 19-10 record feel hollow.
39:47
I think collectively they just have a good
39:49
team and they're a deep team which
39:52
I think is also very important that
39:54
you have guys like Verdugo coming through,
39:56
Cabrera stepped up, Trevino has stepped up.
40:01
I think Clark Schmidt is
40:03
starting to like figure it out, you know,
40:05
piece by piece, start by start. You
40:07
know, I just think that they have a lot of
40:10
pieces depth wise that are contributed that
40:13
pretend well for them moving forward. I
40:16
have a stat for you that may surprise you
40:18
from from what you just said. The
40:23
Yankees have probably better in running the
40:25
scoring position than than I think. Better?
40:28
They're the best. They have a 148
40:30
WRC plus which is the best in the sport. But
40:39
it doesn't feel like that though because it
40:41
doesn't feel like that. No, it doesn't because
40:43
there have been so many moments this year
40:45
where it's like they had bases loaded and then
40:48
they end the inning because they hit into a
40:50
double play. So not
40:54
to cut you off, but my initial thought
40:56
about that is part of
40:58
that is because they have so many guys on base.
41:01
Like they have to be towards
41:04
the top five, top three of
41:07
actual like traffic. Like I don't know what the
41:09
specific like metric or stat would be to like reflect
41:12
that. But I mean,
41:14
I'm looking at it now. They're
41:19
11th in plate appearances and with
41:21
runners in scoring position. So it's
41:23
not like they're they're top. The
41:26
Dodgers have the most right now.
41:30
365 plate appearances with runners in scoring
41:32
position and they've been right over
41:34
the average. So it's not like they're
41:36
just getting a
41:40
billion guys on base and runners in scoring
41:42
position. I think it's I mean, the stats
41:44
are showing that when guys
41:46
are in scoring position, they're driving them
41:48
home. So it
41:51
doesn't it certainly doesn't like feel that way.
41:53
I was surprised when I saw that they
41:55
were the best team with runners in scoring
41:57
position just because of like how many moments.
42:00
It's it felt like
42:02
they've wasted opportunities. Maybe we're just
42:04
watching too many Yankee games maybe
42:09
to feel that way but Yeah,
42:11
I mean like i'm certainly surprised that
42:13
they have the best offense with runners
42:15
in scoring position I
42:17
mean i'm obviously very surprised because it doesn't feel that
42:20
way in the slightest. I mean, I feel like we
42:22
watch Three or four innings
42:24
a game where they have all these guys on
42:26
base and they don't score you
42:28
know what I mean like The oakland
42:30
series isn't as an example. I mean there
42:32
there are a bunch of moments where you're
42:34
just like You just remember the
42:36
double plays. Maybe it's just a double plays like
42:39
leave a A mark, uh
42:41
more so than the hits when they when they
42:43
cash in But I
42:46
mean it just feels like every other time there's
42:48
a there there's like a lot of traffic on
42:50
the bases Somebody sending it to
42:53
a double play. So i'm I'm
42:55
shocked. You know what I mean? It's just like Maybe
42:58
maybe they just do it in bunches You know what
43:01
I mean? Because we we mentioned that stat of multiple
43:03
games with five plus runs and then games where
43:06
they They can't score more than
43:08
two runs so Maybe
43:10
it's like when they cash in they really cash
43:12
in and kind of go off like they did
43:14
in Milwaukee and then when they don't You
43:17
know, it's bad news. Like they didn't
43:19
against oakland. You know what I mean? It's just
43:21
yeah I'm like really surprised by that because I It
43:24
feels like i'm not we're watching like two
43:26
different teams when it comes to that sometimes Well,
43:29
obviously it's an issue across the sport.
43:31
Um, right, but I I just I
43:34
just um Changed the
43:36
dates. So before the Milwaukee
43:39
series began obviously they went
43:41
nuclear in Milwaukee Before
43:44
that they were eighth In
43:46
uh with runners in scoring position, which
43:48
is still really good. Obviously. It's good.
43:50
Yeah Yeah, it's certainly good. Um, but
43:53
this weekend Pushed them all
43:55
the way to first and that kind of shows
43:57
you like just
43:59
how early we still are
44:01
in the season. Like there's still
44:04
a ton of baseball
44:06
left and if the numbers can
44:08
jump like that dramatically over three
44:10
games, I think that's
44:12
a good reminder for fans to
44:14
realize that the
44:17
numbers could change dramatically
44:20
over a five-game sample size just because
44:22
of how early we are in
44:25
the season. Like you don't go from, you
44:27
know, if we're having this conversation in, you
44:30
know, late August and they jump from 8
44:32
to 1, like that's not happening just because
44:34
of like how the sample size
44:36
is obviously much larger. So that's also
44:39
a good reminder for fans of
44:41
just like how early we
44:44
still are in the season because, I
44:46
mean, we talked about Judge
44:48
plenty of times before. It's
44:50
like it's still so
44:52
early that his numbers could jump and
44:56
they did, you know, dramatically
44:58
because of how well he's played
45:00
in the past like three to
45:02
four games. Yeah,
45:04
I mean, I'm glad you did
45:07
the date range because that makes
45:09
way more sense, especially after a weekend
45:11
where in two games they score 30 runs,
45:13
you know, and just went nuclear for a
45:15
couple days. So that
45:18
makes way more sense because like when
45:20
you said that I was still like trying to process
45:22
how they could be number one, but if you include
45:25
Milwaukee then that makes total sense because that was
45:28
insane what they did over the weekend. And
45:31
speaking of like numbers jumping, you can look
45:33
at Rizzo, like when
45:35
that Milwaukee series started, didn't
45:37
have great looking numbers and I think that
45:39
reflected his performance at the time. And then
45:42
he goes off as a great series and
45:44
now his numbers look much more respectable and
45:46
look like something that's closer to
45:48
the Rizzo we've seen as
45:50
a Yankee. So yeah, I
45:53
mean, it's definitely early, you know,
45:55
things are gonna fluctuate and I mean,
45:57
if they're number one, we're runners in scoring position in all
46:00
I think they'll they
46:03
would be having a very good season in my
46:05
opinion You mentioned Rizzo. I just I just
46:07
did the numbers. He had an 88 WRC
46:10
plus before Milwaukee
46:12
series After
46:15
the Milwaukee series, he's got
46:17
a 131. Yeah Yeah,
46:20
he's great. Yeah, I mean
46:22
he was fantastic but again it's just
46:24
a reminder because if you're just
46:26
looking at the raw numbers and You
46:28
know you tell someone who would like hasn't really
46:30
been watching the games like Rizzo hasn't been like
46:32
that good And then they just look at
46:35
the numbers and like what are you talking about? He's been one
46:37
of the best players in the sport. It's like no
46:39
he has but
46:42
again, like it's Another reminder
46:44
of just like how crazy the
46:46
numbers can jump in either
46:48
direction and and Rizzo is like the
46:50
perfect example of that because if
46:52
you sell anybody who's watched all 29
46:55
games that Anthony Rizzo's been incredible.
46:58
He's been fantastic. It looks like no he has
47:01
Yeah, yeah at all He
47:04
had a good he had a good series
47:06
in Milwaukee for sure and like obviously that
47:09
is impacting the overall numbers But
47:11
yeah I mean like he hasn't looked
47:13
like the Rizzo That we saw
47:15
before he got the concussion last season
47:17
when he was a very very good
47:19
player on both sides Of
47:22
the ball defensively he was really good and
47:24
then offensively he was he was really good
47:26
and he was trending towards being an all-star
47:28
just because of like how great
47:30
of a season he was having but again,
47:32
it's it's still very early in the
47:35
year and You
47:37
know he has a 131 WRC plus, so I guess
47:39
he's been fantastic right
47:45
So you've kind of hit on this So
47:47
I'd like to get into a little bit more, but are
47:50
there any areas in the
47:53
team so far in the first month where You're
47:57
like, okay. This might be a problem moving forward
47:59
or this is an area that needs to
48:01
be addressed at some point or this
48:03
is a potential red flag to kind
48:05
of limit the outlook of the team. Is
48:07
there anything or any trends that you've noticed watching
48:09
the team over the first month that
48:12
stand out to you that could be
48:14
a problem either in the short
48:16
term of this season or the long term? I
48:19
mean, I go back to the bullpen. Like I
48:21
don't think the bullpen is like overwhelmingly
48:24
good. Like I don't know who, like
48:28
outside of Clay Holmes who I think has been really
48:30
good and gets hate for whatever reason. Yeah,
48:33
it's weird. Yeah, I mean like
48:35
he's not, he's not Rivera,
48:38
but no one's going to be Rivera ever. But
48:41
he's been good. But outside of Clay,
48:43
it's like I need,
48:45
you know, we're
48:47
up to, there's bases
48:50
loaded, no out and
48:53
I really need to preserve this win and
48:55
Clay's not available. Like I don't know who
48:57
they're going to. You mentioned
48:59
Hamilton earlier in the episode. Like he's
49:01
been very shaky for,
49:03
I feel like six or seven straight
49:05
outings now. Like he hasn't been
49:08
very good. Like even the advanced
49:10
numbers suggest that he's been very
49:13
lucky so far with just
49:15
where his numbers are. He has a
49:17
293 ERA. His
49:21
expected ERA is over 4.5. Yeah,
49:26
like I think that's
49:28
probably, that would be Boone's answer
49:30
of like, all right, I'll give
49:32
you the situation. Like, who are you going to go to? I
49:34
think he'd say Hamilton. But
49:37
again, he's been very shaky. Marinaccio has been better
49:39
than expected. He was awful last year and had
49:41
to get sent down triple A just because of
49:44
how bad he was. Not a
49:46
bad spring. I didn't think he was going to
49:48
be up this early.
49:51
I know there's injuries obviously. But
49:55
yeah, it has to be the bullpen
49:57
of just like how shaky it's
49:59
been. And obviously, when we're
50:01
talking about October
50:03
baseball, you
50:06
need a really good bullpen in October. You
50:09
really do. And like right now,
50:12
again, it's April and it's still early and
50:15
the roster is going to change and there's
50:17
probably going to be four guys who we're
50:19
not talking about who are
50:21
impacting the bullpen in October. And
50:24
just outside of the guys who
50:27
are injured like Luca Vino, Scott Afros,
50:29
Tommy Caimley, there's probably
50:31
four more guys who we're not talking about right
50:33
now who may be a big part of the
50:36
bullpen. But if you're asking me
50:38
today, it has to be the
50:40
bullpen just because it's not impressive.
50:44
It's really not like the numbers say
50:47
they've been good. Again,
50:49
it's early. So
50:51
that's probably the area that I
50:54
would be most concerned about. I
50:56
assume you would say the same or
50:58
do you have something else? Oh,
51:01
no, it's absolutely the bullpen. I
51:05
don't think the bullpen is very good outside of
51:07
Cleo Holmes. I mean, it's
51:09
very much I
51:12
hope this works out today kind of feeling when
51:14
they come into the game. Yeah,
51:20
I mean, I think until
51:22
there are reinforcements both internally and externally, that's
51:25
always going to be my concern with this
51:27
team. I just don't feel comfortable with this
51:29
bullpen. Part of it is being spoiled
51:33
from how great some of their bullpens have
51:35
been in the past and the profiles and
51:38
players that they've had. I
51:40
just thought every time a guy comes
51:42
into the game, I just
51:45
feel unsteady, to be quite honest. I'm
51:49
curious what
51:51
you think or what you thought of
51:54
Boone's bullpen management on Friday
51:56
in Milwaukee, because that was
51:58
obviously. a big point
52:01
of contention amongst Yankees fans. I think
52:04
the media talked about it. I
52:07
just want to say this. I
52:10
have never been a fan of Aaron
52:12
Boone, bullpen manager. I think he's one
52:14
of the worst bullpen managers in
52:17
the league. I think he's been like that from the
52:19
beginning. So I'm in no way
52:22
defending him in this instance, but
52:27
I didn't really think outside of sending
52:30
heel out in the six. I
52:33
didn't really think that he had many options
52:36
and didn't make like
52:38
poor decisions. I think, you
52:40
know, I even understand the
52:42
heel thing logically because he's trying to steal
52:44
as many outs because he doesn't have many
52:47
bullpen guys available, but also just think
52:49
the bullpen is not that good or deep. You
52:52
know, like people were complaining about Tonkin being
52:54
in the game. Tonkin's in the game
52:56
because one, they don't have many guys to turn to
52:58
and they don't have a lot of good guys to
53:00
turn to. You know, I mean, I think some
53:02
of it is just the bullpen is not good. And I
53:04
know like people don't want
53:06
to say that or admit that or whatever,
53:09
but outside of homes, I
53:11
don't know who I mean, I
53:13
don't there's not one guy. I'm like, oh man,
53:15
okay. I feel good about this situation. It's just okay.
53:17
I hope he gets an out and
53:20
Friday to me was just one of those
53:22
moments. It was very clear at this bullpen
53:25
is just not very good and it's not
53:27
all because of the manager's decision-making is because
53:29
the bullpen to me is not that
53:31
good right now. Yeah,
53:34
I mean, I
53:36
get it from a fan perspective because it's like
53:39
you want to win every game and you
53:41
know, Michael Tonkin doesn't
53:44
give you the best chance to
53:46
win. So I get it from that perspective.
53:49
I also get it from Boone's perspective. It's
53:51
you know, when
53:54
if you look at last year, the bullpen
53:56
was shot in like June like
53:59
they started off high. like they were
54:01
like the best bullpen and from
54:03
like June on they
54:05
weren't they weren't good because like they
54:07
were like shot they they were overused
54:10
overworked and
54:12
I think whether
54:15
I mean the Yankees would not admit this
54:17
but a
54:19
game on April 27th
54:22
is not as important as the the
54:24
games coming down the wire in
54:26
September I get the wins count the same I
54:29
get the losses count the same but
54:31
you have to look at it like
54:33
from a long-term perspective which is what
54:35
the Yankees are doing you know
54:37
clay Holmes has been used a lot so
54:39
far you want clay very
54:42
fresh if this is gonna
54:44
be a playoff team which I think it will
54:46
be and you know the
54:49
pitches add up it's like every
54:51
pitchers arm is like a ticking time bomb
54:54
every single one of them you don't you never
54:56
know which pitch is gonna be their
54:59
their last so for
55:01
Holmes it's like okay like he got out of the
55:03
inning what do you throw like 10 pitches on Friday
55:06
so I like I get it like he yeah
55:08
he had he obviously had more
55:10
pitches to throw that night if if if
55:12
they wanted to use him but
55:14
it's also like the the
55:16
offense like had plenty
55:18
of red like the
55:20
offense was the reason why they lost that
55:22
game on Friday not Michael Thompson they had
55:24
they had plenty of opportunities to score in
55:26
that game and they didn't do it so
55:29
if you want to blame someone for Friday's loss
55:31
I think I would look at the offense first
55:33
rather than clay Holmes not pitching the second inning
55:36
I don't think that was the reason
55:38
why they lost the game and also you know
55:40
like we were just talking about with Hamilton
55:43
I think Hamilton's probably the the second option
55:45
out of the bullpen he was unavailable he
55:47
was sore that day he ended
55:49
up pitching on Sunday's
55:51
game but he was unavailable and
55:54
I think Luke Weaver was
55:56
also unavailable that night and Victor Gonzalez
55:58
was the only one left in
56:00
the bullpen at the time
56:03
when Tonkin went out there in relief
56:06
of Holmes. I think the Brewers
56:08
had three straight righties up and
56:12
Gonzalez is better against left-handed hitters. They
56:15
didn't have any left-handed hitters in that lane. So
56:18
I got it from that perspective, especially if
56:20
you don't want to burn clay. It's
56:24
the first game of the series. He pitches two innings.
56:26
He's probably not going to be available the rest of
56:29
the series. You don't know what's going to
56:31
happen in Saturday's
56:33
game or Sunday's game. You can't
56:35
expect them to score 15 runs
56:38
back to back games. So it's like you're
56:40
not thinking about that either. It's
56:43
easy to look back now and say, oh, clay could
56:45
have easily pitched two innings. Well,
56:47
of course, because hindsight is 20-20.
56:50
So I get it from that perspective. It's
56:53
like you don't want to burn your best
56:55
reliever per game in April. The
56:57
offense should have scored
56:59
more runs. It's really that
57:02
simple. That's
57:04
my opinion on it. I
57:07
really didn't understand the outrage behind
57:09
it. Yankee
57:12
fans get outraged
57:14
over everything. And I
57:16
certainly appreciate the passion.
57:19
But I didn't think that was something
57:21
to be outraged over.
57:24
It's just like they had opportunities to score
57:27
and they didn't. That's why they lost. Yeah,
57:30
I mean, I agree. And with
57:33
the bullpen, I really think this is a situation
57:35
that's pretty obvious that they're going to need some
57:38
of their internal guys to come back from
57:40
injury and perform well. And
57:43
they're definitely going to have to add externally. And I don't know
57:45
if that means Heel at some
57:47
point joins the pen when Cole is there.
57:49
That'll play itself out. The
57:52
bullpen, to me, is the one clear area
57:54
where they just they're going to have to
57:56
make additions and multiple
57:59
additions. uh to kind of
58:01
fix it. I just don't think this version of
58:03
their bullpen is
58:06
going to unlock something for this team. I think
58:08
that that's the one, the one
58:10
area that's going to be the limiting factor
58:12
on whether they have an incredible
58:15
year or a disappointing year to be
58:17
quite honest. But there's so much time
58:19
and there are options. I think
58:21
it'll get better as time goes on but they're
58:24
going to have to make moves. Like the bullpen the
58:26
way it is now is just, I don't think it's
58:28
good enough, you know, for a championship contender. So, um,
58:31
we'll see what happens. So
58:34
after this break, we'll get
58:36
to your mailbag questions and
58:38
then we'll briefly touch upon
58:40
the Baltimore series that
58:43
starts as we're
58:45
recording tonight, Monday night. So
58:47
we will be back after this break. And
58:51
we're back. It's Randy, it's
58:53
Chris. It's the View some 314 feet podcasts
58:57
on the picture list podcast
58:59
network. I'm doing better
59:01
at pronouncing that and not adding an S even
59:03
though it's very uh tempting to
59:05
do so but I'm getting it right. So
59:08
it's mailbag time. We'll
59:11
jump right into it. The
59:15
first question is
59:17
from, I hope I don't mispronounce
59:20
your name, but Brian
59:22
Rastuchea. Rastuchea.
59:27
Considering its declining performance and its being
59:29
is walkier, on
59:31
a scale of one to 10, how likely
59:33
are the Yankees to trade Glaber
59:36
Torres at the trading deadline? I
59:40
don't think it's likely. You know, especially if
59:42
they're one of the best teams in
59:45
the sport at that time, you know,
59:48
I think Glaber
59:50
will, you know, rebound at some point. I don't
59:52
think he's going to be, you know,
59:55
a well below average hitter.
59:57
So I think he'll be fine. And also,
1:00:00
There are really no better
1:00:02
options right now that the Yankees have, at
1:00:05
least internally, and it doesn't
1:00:07
really make sense to trade for a second
1:00:10
baseman on the roster. We
1:00:15
talked about it before, but it's certainly
1:00:17
possible that the Yankees do
1:00:19
part ways with Glaber at the end, but
1:00:21
I also think Glaber, like
1:00:23
having him on the roster through October,
1:00:26
probably gives you your best chance of
1:00:28
winning a title. Because
1:00:30
there just aren't many second baseman
1:00:33
who can hit the way he
1:00:35
does when he's looking
1:00:38
right at the plate. So I
1:00:40
would be very surprised if they moved on for him.
1:00:44
I think really the only way they
1:00:47
would trade him, in my opinion, at
1:00:49
least right now, is if
1:00:52
they're faltering, they're not
1:00:54
looking like a team that is
1:00:57
in contention, which I don't
1:01:00
think is going to be the case. I think the Yankees
1:01:02
are a good team, and I think they're going to be
1:01:04
contending by the time the trade
1:01:06
deadline comes around. Yeah,
1:01:09
on a scale of 1 to 10, in my
1:01:11
opinion, the answer is zero. I
1:01:14
mean, I just... Yeah, I don't think you're going to trade
1:01:16
them. No, I mean,
1:01:18
who plays second base? I mean, I
1:01:20
don't know who plays second base right now if he got a
1:01:22
day off. The only person
1:01:24
is Oswaldo, but then
1:01:27
who's playing third? I mean, I guess Jamyad
1:01:29
Jones, but I mean, that's
1:01:31
only to give Glaber a day
1:01:33
off. So DJ
1:01:36
LeMay who's not going to play second base, I mean,
1:01:39
you don't even know if his foot's going to
1:01:42
hold up for one game, let alone one game
1:01:44
at second base.
1:01:46
So yeah, I don't think he's
1:01:48
going to trade it. And
1:01:50
also, what's his value? You
1:01:52
know, like he's entering his walk
1:01:55
year. You're only going to have him for a couple
1:01:57
months. At this point, he hasn't hit well. I mean,
1:01:59
I don't even know. going to bring
1:02:01
back of what value. Yeah, that's
1:02:03
a good, yeah, that's certainly a good point
1:02:05
to make. You know, he's under contract for
1:02:07
the rest of the season, so he's
1:02:09
not going to like bring back a
1:02:12
hole that you would think
1:02:14
like if, you know, if you would think like, oh
1:02:16
yeah, Glaber's one of the best second baseman, we can
1:02:18
get a ton for him. No,
1:02:20
because of his contract situation. So
1:02:22
it really makes no sense from
1:02:24
the Yankees perspective to trade someone
1:02:26
like him. Yeah, he's
1:02:29
more valuable to the Yankees than he is anybody
1:02:31
else at this point. And I mean,
1:02:33
I think you'll, like I said,
1:02:35
and what we said, we both think you'll have
1:02:38
a better season moving forward. So
1:02:40
I don't, I don't see that happening. Like,
1:02:42
I think a lot of things would have to go
1:02:45
wrong for people for the Yankees to consider trading. Okay,
1:02:48
thank you for your question. And I hope
1:02:51
I pronounced your name correctly. If I
1:02:53
didn't, you could let me know. Second
1:02:56
question from Joshua Fincheler. He's
1:02:59
back with another question. Okay,
1:03:03
this is a long email, so I'm going to try to
1:03:05
find the point that I could jump
1:03:07
in. This is
1:03:09
also about the bullpen. The
1:03:12
lack of bullpen depth lingers in Friday
1:03:14
with evidence of this sadly, a sad
1:03:16
and to a promising effort. We
1:03:19
know that the personnel isn't going to see
1:03:21
a major shakeup this early in the season,
1:03:23
but at what point do you see the
1:03:25
Yankees try new approaches with usage or sequencing
1:03:27
to try and squeeze a little
1:03:29
more out of this bullpen? Some
1:03:31
things that come to mind using homes in multiple innings
1:03:33
or potentially trying to save them for the 10th if
1:03:36
things are tied in the ninth, trying
1:03:38
to use Hamilton or Santana as firemen
1:03:40
immediately following the starter rather than a
1:03:42
730 inning, or even tapping into the
1:03:47
major league holding cell relievers
1:03:49
at AAA. I
1:03:52
know this is a long question. Yes, it is,
1:03:54
Joshua. So I'll leave it at that.
1:03:56
Thanks. Okay, so we've kind of talked about this,
1:03:58
but. I mean,
1:04:00
I don't... This goes
1:04:03
back to like my idea of like changing
1:04:05
the lineup. I think it's
1:04:07
okay to a certain extent but that's not gonna
1:04:09
make somebody hit better, you know, they're in a
1:04:11
different position and you hope that you
1:04:14
know, there's a certain order
1:04:17
of events that happens that can contribute to
1:04:19
a hitter hitting better if
1:04:21
he changes his spot in the lineup. But
1:04:23
I also feel the same way about sequencing
1:04:26
the bullpen in usage. Like either you're gonna
1:04:28
pitch well, you're not gonna pitch well. So
1:04:30
I don't... You just
1:04:32
need them to pitch well or get better pitchers. I mean,
1:04:34
I don't... For my like,
1:04:36
I'm not a pitching coach, obviously. I'm not
1:04:38
like the GM of the Yankees but it
1:04:41
just feels like sometimes we're overcomplicating it
1:04:44
and that it's ultimately
1:04:46
not to say that Joshua is. I get he's
1:04:48
trying to find a solution for an area that
1:04:51
has struggled to a degree. But
1:04:54
I don't think sequencing or usage is
1:04:56
going to have them perform better.
1:05:00
Like I, you know, I don't
1:05:02
think it's gonna save... Also, we talked about this,
1:05:05
like there's also many bullets in a pitcher's arm.
1:05:08
You know what I mean? So there's a
1:05:10
lot of things that go into the bullpen
1:05:12
management and just like the sequencing of who
1:05:14
comes when and what their roles are. Yeah,
1:05:18
I agree with you. I don't think... I
1:05:20
mean, I think this bullpen is... They
1:05:22
are what they are. I don't think you
1:05:24
use Hamilton in the 6th. He's
1:05:27
gonna perform better there than in the 8th.
1:05:29
Like I just don't... I don't
1:05:31
see it right now. And also the Yankees are
1:05:35
kind of making it clear what their plan is with
1:05:37
the bullpen right now. You know, they have
1:05:40
Michael Tonkin on the roster. He's
1:05:42
someone who could be easily DFA'd to bring
1:05:44
in a new arm. I think they're just
1:05:46
gonna cycle in arms and
1:05:48
see if any of them stick. You know,
1:05:50
they had Josh
1:05:52
Machieski earlier in the season. I
1:05:55
think he pitched like one game.
1:05:58
Jake Cousins. I think he pitched
1:06:00
like two games. I think they're just going to bring
1:06:03
in arms because again, it's still
1:06:05
early in the season. Let
1:06:07
them burn the bullets. Let
1:06:09
them take, if
1:06:12
it's a blowout, pitch two to three innings.
1:06:15
The FAM, it sucks. That's
1:06:18
just the reality of Major League Baseball.
1:06:20
You bring in these guys to pitch
1:06:23
a couple innings and then
1:06:25
you send them on their way like
1:06:27
the following day. But I think
1:06:29
that's what the Yankees are doing right
1:06:31
now, letting these guys burn some bullets.
1:06:35
They're not going to be on the roster, nowhere near
1:06:37
the roster, when the games actually
1:06:40
matter come October. I
1:06:42
think there's still plenty of time for
1:06:44
the bullpen to sort itself out. We're
1:06:49
still five months away from October.
1:06:51
Like I said earlier in the episode, there's
1:06:55
probably going to be like four names who
1:06:58
were not talking about right now
1:07:00
who are going to be on the postseason
1:07:02
roster. So again, it's a
1:07:04
concern right now, but let's see
1:07:06
if it's a concern in five months. All
1:07:10
right. Final question from
1:07:13
Dan Gibbons. Oh,
1:07:15
thank you, Joshua, for your question. Appreciate it.
1:07:18
So Dan Gibbons, have either
1:07:20
of you guys noticed any subtle changes
1:07:22
in judges stance over the weekend in
1:07:24
Milwaukee because he seems to have unlocked
1:07:26
it again. I
1:07:31
didn't notice anything other than, I
1:07:33
mean, I think his biggest issue from
1:07:36
what I could see on television and like
1:07:38
not breaking it down. And again, I'm not
1:07:41
the hitting coach for the New York Yankees
1:07:43
and I will never pretend to be. But
1:07:46
I think it was pretty obvious on TV that, I mean,
1:07:49
he was just pulling off for pitches. I mean, his front
1:07:52
hit was leaking like
1:07:55
a bad faucet or something. I mean, it was
1:07:57
pretty obvious. I mean, it felt like labor and.
1:08:00
Judge had the same issue at the same time
1:08:03
and it's not a coincidence that They
1:08:05
had a couple hits going the other way and
1:08:07
then all of a sudden like they got some
1:08:09
hits You know what I mean?
1:08:11
I I didn't see anything like super noticeable, but
1:08:14
That was the one thing that stood out to me is
1:08:16
it just seemed for a while that Judge's
1:08:18
front hit was leaking and he was going
1:08:20
one way and the the barrel was going
1:08:22
in The other direction and you know kind
1:08:24
of yanks your barrel out of his own
1:08:26
pretty quickly Especially away and you can tell
1:08:29
by how pictures pitched to him that they
1:08:31
were noticing it too Because he
1:08:33
was getting a steady diet of Off-speed
1:08:36
away. That is a pitch that he's done
1:08:38
really well against the last couple of years
1:08:41
and he was just Falling victim to it
1:08:43
at bat after a bat. So I think Sometimes
1:08:46
opposing pictures tell you what the batter's
1:08:49
doing wrong or like what's off and then
1:08:51
they spam them And I
1:08:53
feel like that's what happened. But in Milwaukee, he kind of
1:08:55
cleaned it up a little bit Yeah,
1:08:57
I didn't I didn't see any Noticable
1:09:00
difference with with his stance
1:09:03
I think Again, it was
1:09:05
just a matter of him being off
1:09:07
with his timing Since
1:09:10
timing has looked pretty good in
1:09:12
the past five-ish games We'll
1:09:14
see if it continues but as far
1:09:16
as like noticeable difference with his stance.
1:09:19
No, I I honestly just think Judges
1:09:22
timing was off and that's why
1:09:24
he's been struggling to start the season All
1:09:28
right, Dan, thank you for your questions. Thank you
1:09:30
everyone for your questions. We appreciate it Uh,
1:09:32
they're great as always so we want to
1:09:34
wrap this up with a question Going
1:09:37
into this baltimore series that
1:09:39
starts tonight monday night A
1:09:42
four-game set in baltimore the two best teams
1:09:44
in the division so far two of the
1:09:46
best teams in the league so far And
1:09:50
i'm of the mind that
1:09:54
Series like this when it's
1:09:57
two really competitive teams division
1:09:59
rival I think at
1:10:02
least early on, there
1:10:04
are more fun than important. I
1:10:07
understand there are not as many division
1:10:09
games, so there's a value to it. I understand
1:10:12
that games in April
1:10:14
have as much importance as
1:10:16
a game in September. I'm
1:10:18
not sure I totally agree with that, but
1:10:20
I understand the idea behind it. I
1:10:25
think this series is going to be fun. I do think
1:10:27
it's a test for the Yankees, but I don't think it's
1:10:29
the most crucial thing in the world. I don't think it's
1:10:31
going to tell us about the
1:10:34
Yankees fortunes in the division or the Orioles
1:10:36
fortunes in the division. I think it's just
1:10:39
a nice test for right now. It's going
1:10:41
to be fun and competitive and people
1:10:44
get fired up over it. I don't think it's
1:10:46
a referendum on how
1:10:48
the division is going to play out
1:10:51
four months, five months from now. What
1:10:54
are your thoughts? I
1:10:56
definitely get your point. I think it's a big
1:10:58
series just because of the fact that I
1:11:01
expect that these two teams are going to
1:11:03
be the top two teams in the A.L.
1:11:05
East. These
1:11:07
games certainly matter towards winning the
1:11:09
division. I also think
1:11:11
winning the division, especially now in
1:11:13
the expanded wildcard era, is overrated
1:11:16
and not as important as it
1:11:18
once was. As
1:11:20
we've seen over the past few years, the
1:11:23
teams that have been winning
1:11:25
titles are teams
1:11:27
that enter October extremely
1:11:29
hot. The Rangers, the
1:11:31
Braves a couple years ago, just like
1:11:34
it doesn't... I
1:11:36
don't know if the division titles matter as much as
1:11:38
they once did, but if
1:11:41
we're talking about the
1:11:43
19-10 record of Fluke
1:11:45
or whatever, I think
1:11:48
these four games certainly are
1:11:51
a good measuring stick for where the team is
1:11:53
right now. They're going to have all
1:11:55
their best pitchers pitch
1:11:57
in the series. I think that's certainly going to be
1:11:59
a big one. a good
1:12:01
way to measure where those guys
1:12:04
are especially because
1:12:06
the Orioles lineup is really deep
1:12:09
and I think it's going to be a challenge
1:12:12
for every starter
1:12:14
the Yankees are throwing in the series
1:12:16
just because of how special Baltimore's
1:12:19
lineup is. In that
1:12:21
regard I think it's certainly a good
1:12:25
four data point set for
1:12:27
the Yankees but is it
1:12:29
going to be a referendum on the rest of
1:12:31
the season? Obviously not but I do think
1:12:33
that the games certainly matter just
1:12:36
because of the fact that this is going
1:12:38
to be a playoff team most likely Baltimore.
1:12:40
You want to have some sort of tiebreaker
1:12:42
over them at the end of the season
1:12:45
if it comes down to that and these
1:12:47
four games are the start of that. Yeah,
1:12:51
I mean point taken. I
1:12:53
just feel like sometimes there's too
1:12:56
much emphasis or weight on some of these series.
1:12:58
I mean it's a 162 game series. I
1:13:02
understand it's a division rival and
1:13:04
all those things but depending
1:13:07
on how seasons play out you could be
1:13:10
playing the Reds at the end of
1:13:12
August and that series has just as
1:13:14
much weight in some ways as a
1:13:17
Baltimore series depending on where the Yankees are
1:13:19
at or where Baltimore is at.
1:13:22
You know it's just I feel like
1:13:24
there's so many ebbs and flows and highs
1:13:26
and lows and you know injuries and so
1:13:28
many so much variance that
1:13:31
you know we you
1:13:34
can't really it's difficult
1:13:36
to pinpoint what could be like a
1:13:38
turning point or some kind of big
1:13:40
inflection point for a team. You
1:13:43
know I think it just kind of happens. I
1:13:46
will say though to your
1:13:48
point about the lineup I
1:13:50
am very interested to see how this pitching
1:13:52
staff will go up against Baltimore's
1:13:54
lineup. That's the thing that I'm
1:13:57
really paying attention to and if I'm being honest there's
1:13:59
a little bit of concern for
1:14:02
both the starters and the bullpen and, you
1:14:04
know, trying to limit the damage of a
1:14:06
very good Baltimore lineup. So I think out
1:14:09
of everything in this series,
1:14:12
that's the thing that I'm going to pay attention
1:14:14
to the most because eventually
1:14:16
the Yankees will get cold back. But how does
1:14:18
the rest of this pitching staff kind
1:14:20
of match up to an elite
1:14:22
offense? And I'm
1:14:24
not sure they've come
1:14:27
across great offenses that much so far.
1:14:29
You know, I think if you look at the teams that
1:14:32
they've played, they've beaten some good teams and teams that
1:14:34
are doing well. But I think
1:14:36
on the offensive side, this is their biggest
1:14:38
test and will give us
1:14:40
an indication of right now how
1:14:43
good and effective the non-cold pitchers
1:14:45
can be. So
1:14:48
I think that, you know, you talk
1:14:50
about data points, I feel like that for me,
1:14:52
that's the most important data point to pay
1:14:55
attention to is how is this pitching staff
1:14:57
going to go after this Baltimore lineup
1:14:59
for four games. Yeah,
1:15:02
I certainly agree. Right
1:15:04
now, as we're recording, Baltimore
1:15:07
has the second best offense
1:15:09
in the sport. The Yankees are right behind
1:15:11
them. Houston
1:15:14
coming up next week, fifth
1:15:17
best in the sport right
1:15:19
now. So there's
1:15:22
some big series looking ahead because we
1:15:24
talked about, you know, I do think
1:15:26
that it's possible that there's some course
1:15:28
correction coming for the starting rotation because
1:15:30
I don't think they've been as good
1:15:32
as the numbers would suggest. And those
1:15:34
two series in particular are
1:15:36
certainly good
1:15:39
early tests for the state of
1:15:41
the rotation. I
1:15:43
agree. So with that,
1:15:45
we'll bring episode eight to a close. I
1:15:49
hope everybody enjoys the Baltimore
1:15:51
series. Hopefully the Yankees come on
1:15:53
on top. They win the series. And there are
1:15:55
a lot of positives that we can speak on
1:15:57
after that series takes place. You
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1:16:27
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1:16:29
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1:16:33
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1:16:35
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1:16:38
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1:16:40
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1:16:42
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1:16:46
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1:16:52
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1:16:54
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1:16:56
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1:16:58
one will be with Mike Petriello
1:17:00
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1:17:02
talk a little bit more about the Baltimore series. So
1:17:05
Chris, any final words before we get out of here?
1:17:08
No, I'm excited to see that
1:17:10
beautiful left field wall at Camden
1:17:12
Yards. Yeah,
1:17:15
it's so stupid. Yeah,
1:17:18
yeah. You can thank the Yankees for
1:17:20
that, I think. Yeah. They
1:17:22
had like 20 home runs, I think, in one
1:17:24
year. That's probably why
1:17:26
they ended up changing it. Yeah,
1:17:29
yeah. I definitely think that contributed to it.
1:17:31
I'm sure there's some other ALEs teams that
1:17:33
contributed to that decision as well, but the
1:17:35
Yankees were probably at the top of that
1:17:37
list. Oh yeah. So
1:17:40
thank you everyone for listening. We appreciate it. We'll
1:17:42
be back with a new episode at the
1:17:44
end of this week and we will
1:17:46
speak to you then. you
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