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We had Jake Genzl last Wednesday undergo surgery on his ankle, So just to
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provide more background on that. Obviously, he ended the year with an injury,
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and then the way that we had handled it in collaboration with Jake and
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the medical team, was to continue to monitor it. Obviously he continued to
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skate and train on it. But from from our view, I'm thinking with
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Jake and the team's best interest, we didn't want it to linger into the
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year, and so when it wasn't healing the way that it was supposed to,
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doctor Vus and Chris Stewart, in collaboration with Jake and the people on
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the ground in Minnesota, was given a very specific methodology to go through it,
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including trying it in some game action in the league there that that Ben
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Hankinson runs the Beauty League, and UM, it just wasn't comfortable enough for
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him as he was getting up to the prescribed levels. So at that point
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was decided that we would have the surgical solution performed and that'll get Jake back
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up to one hundred percent and jake best interest and it's best for the team to have Jake at one so we'll miss them. UM for the first couple
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games of the year, but then he'll be back to the Jake we know,
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which I think is the best solution for all of us. UM.
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Obviously, yeah, yesterday, UM we're able to complete a three team trade.
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UM. First off, I just want to thank um Casey to Smith.
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He's he's been here the longest, good story and great journey for Casey
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from the ECHL through to being an NHL regular with with the Penguins. Um
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he goes to Montreal, UM, Jeff Petrie, UM also goes to Montreal,
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Michael Grantland and uh In jan Ruda to San Jose, and Nathan lagarret
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to to Montreal as well. So just thank thank all of them for their
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contributions to the team. Never easy to call players and especially this late in
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the summer when they have children and families and let them know that they've been
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moved on. UM. But all though I didn't have a deep history with
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any of them, UM, you know, all all by all accounts pre
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contributing members of the team here and uh and good people. So UM it
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was a fairly lengthy process. UM. With San Jose. UM that goes
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back to my previous place of employment. And so my career was was great
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to deal with. Throughout UM, They're obviously accomplished their goal of gaining draft
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choices and greater flexibilities. They go through turning their their team to to where
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Mike's vision wants to bring it UM and then Montreal and Kent Hughes came in
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at the end, and I think this move helps them and acquire more assets
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and um that they can either keep or move and draft capital as well.
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So and with us, obviously it gains us the flexibility that we wanted,
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but also brings Eric into the mix here. UM. The reason why we
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wanted to bring Eric in was, I think when going through our team one
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of the things that I had felt and talking with Sully about it, as
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we needed to continually improve our ability to move the puck from our own zone.
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Eric, I think is one of the elite players in that regard in the NHL. Even though he's in his in his early thirties, he continues
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to be one of the top skaters in the NHL, and obviously his production
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and offense is quite prolific. So very competitive, very motivated person wants to
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come in here and help our team, think for us, adding someone like
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that to the group, as we you know, attempt to give it every
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chance to win, but also keep our eye towards the future. We were happy not to include any of our our prospects own Pickering, Brandy Jaeger in
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the trade as well to have them can move along. So that was what
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we're looking to accomplish. That's the way that we went about it, and
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with that, I'll open it up to any questions anybody may have. Would
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you expect this to be the group you have going into campbould you anticipate for
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the move I don't expect anything more majorum, But you can never make any
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promises. I think we always want to try to improve the team, Taylor.
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But um, I would say, now you know, we're six weeks
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out from camp starting on Wednesday, five weeks out suddenly from prospect to showcase
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in Buffalo, I think this will be the group, you know, with
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with grantland m going out and two defensemen going out. I do think,
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you know, there's we've kind of felt in the last twenty four hours just
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kind of a you know, of the remaining free agents in terms of whether
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there's guys we want to sign on or even professional tryouts that think this could
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be a great, great spot for them to come in. So we're sorting
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through that. I think would if if there's anything, it'll be more in
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that that vein than anything. Big thanks for doing this, Klum. How
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long? How much of the regular season do you project Cancel to miss and
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do you foresee trying to replace him internally or will you move aggressively for someone
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from the outside. Um, well, I think we would get a little
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bit fortunate there. Unfortunate in one case because Jake is projected to miss.
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You know, I think it's late October early November, and we don't we
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don't have a lot of games in that early stretch. We got three the first week, then just two the second week of the season, so I
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think it's in that third or fourth week of the season where he's projected to
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be reevaluated and then a decision will be made. So I think it could.
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You know, we're hopeful it goes well, of course, but we
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want to make sure he's one hundred percent right a roll when he comes back. So I would say between you know, around five games is what's kind
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of the projected number. But it's medical, so you never want to put
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a lock on that because we have to always do what's right for him.
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When it comes to replacing him, I don't think there are many he's There
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are no ready made replacements for Jake. He's a He's one of the better
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wingers in the NHL and certainly has a great chemistry with Sid whom you know
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they've had, They've had great success together. That's that. I think one
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of the fortunate parts is that it creates a major opportunity for our own young
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people that are here, whether that's Alex Nilander, Samuel Poulin. But also,
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I think more importantly that was one of the things we tried to address
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in free agency and to um you know, whether it's Finnie Hinnis Strozza Andrea
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Jansen, rampit like who we acquired yesterday with Eric he came over from Montreal,
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um Zahorna Poston and Coppen and Neto O'Connor, all those guys that have
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been wanting their own opportunity and chance to go and get it. And now
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you know, the knock is there at the door. Someone has to answer.
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And I think that's the one thing we're looking forward to in training camp.
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The most is you know there's there's going to be an opening, that
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there's going to be opportunity. We know we have our own guys that can
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slide there and do that. Riquelis played with Sid before. I think Riley
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Smith can play with Sid. But you know, there's there's all those other
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people that we we brought in to try to improve our depth, certainly on
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the wings in free agency. That now is you know, it's kind of
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it's this is the opportunity we've waited for all this time. You know you've
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got six weeks to put yourself in the best spot to take advantage of it.
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And I'm just excited to see who comes in and takes it. God,
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this is sort of a two partter about how you eventually got this across
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the goal line, the first part of which ties the gensl aspect into it.
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Was there anything that after Jake got hurt, you felt Okay, we're
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going to do it now, where maybe we didn't you weren't ready to do
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it before. Sure, that would be the first part, And then the
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second part is I'm going to tell us how the Petree to Montreal element came
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into play there. Because I was a little bit surprising to see him go
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back to the Canadians after he came from there in the first place. Yeah,
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So the first part with Jake is that with him being out not long
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enough to be on LTI R, it's sort of you know, it would
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have created at the beginning of the year, he's obviously we need to have the room to have him on the roster, but also have other space.
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So we knew that, you know, this all kind of happened with O'Connor's
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arbitration settling last week, so it'd open up that other bio window and we
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knew, Okay, if we're going to gain some flex ability, we kind
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of have until Sunday at noon to do it. So it sort of placed
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a deadline on it, which I think was a positive thing for us. Really not the ever want to get to that point. I think my my
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stance on biots has been made clear. I don't have a strong dislike for
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them, just because they sit on the cap for double the amount of time,
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and you know, even if they make a great deal of short term
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sense, it comes to comes to hurt you in the long run. So
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we knew we had that kind of timeline there at and that's how the Jake
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and the O'Connor settlement both kind of collided and made Sunday at noon the deadline
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because that's when we would have had to put somebody on unconditional waivers for buyout.
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With regards to Montreal and Jeff, I think it's it's you know,
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Kent, it's probably best to answer the actual fit in terms of the team.
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And in that situation, I think with their goals are you know,
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we're very clear they and I was, I was, I was really impressed
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with Kent. I always haven't had a long relationship with him when he was
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on the agent side. He's had a lot of players come through here, but just the way he was very clear and concise in what he was looking
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to do, uh in terms of acquiring assets to be in the middle,
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use his flexibility right now, use what he has to try to accelerate where
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they're at in their own um, in their own development, and acquire picks
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and and good in an opportunity where you have to acquire pick and a really
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good player to fail help a team facilitate something else. So that's how that
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came to be. And UM credit to to Kent for jumping in to clarify
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Montreal was initially a green light putre to go to or did you have to
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like talk? Was he was Montreal? The no trade? No, there
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wasn't he was. We didn't have to there was no there was nothing to
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do with the no trade on it. Yeah, Hey Kyle, how are
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you? Um Uh? I think I might have too, but maybe not for what is the message you want this team to take from acquiring an impact
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player like Carlson? Well, I don't. I don't even know if the
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team, because of the leadership, was sid and and Sully need anymore messaging.
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I think it's just the affirmation that we believe that they have a chance
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to contend and compete for a championship. And there's a lot of work that
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has to be done. Obviously, the team missed the playoffs last year.
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There's no dancing around it. But we tried to supplement as best we can.
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And I know that there'll be lots of people that doubt the group,
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and rightfully so. I mean we have to go out and prove it starting
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in the first day of training camp in building to where we want to get
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to. Um So, I think the doubts are fair. I think the
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criticisms are fair. We have our belief and then it's about us to go
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out and execute it. And that's on me to lead the way and get
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the group and the coaching staff and the players what I think they need.
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So it was a unique opportunity to add a player like Ericum where you know,
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obviously we had to part with some some assets, but we gained more
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flexibility and added him on at the same time. And I think that was
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the message is clear as that you know he's he's still an elite player,
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as he showed last year winning the Norris Trophy. We have a chance at
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him. We're going to do it because we believe in the group. Kyle,
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Now, with this trade, do you have two of the better offensive defensemen of their generation? And Chris letangan Eric Carlson. This first part might
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be more of a question for Mike Sullivan once we get the training camp,
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but there's only so many minutes for everybody to go around. Just how might
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that look in terms of their deployment and then just in general, just how
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important would that one two punch be? Well, I think both are extraordinarily
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well conditioned, I think, and Chris's competitiveness is well renowned in here,
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and I think Eric's competitiveness will will stand out as everyone in the room gets
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to know him. But both have shown in the past to be able to
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take on massive minutes. I think we want to be cognizant of that as
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we go to the regular season. But that you know, Todd Reardon and
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Sully will will manage that handle that. But I think it it allows us
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to have one of those two players on the ice for you know, at
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least fifty minutes of the game, hopefully a little bit less, but but
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you know, and then it's up to us. And then again it speaks
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opportunity starre now in the third pair as well, You've got a lot of
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young guys there. Somebody has to come in and take it and run with
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it. So um, you know, in terms of the fact that they're both offensive, I'd love to have one great left offensive guy in one great
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right shot defensive guy or offensive guy, and then and have the the opposite
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sort of be on the defensive side. We happen to have two really strong
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offensive I would I wouldn't just class by them as offensive. I think they're
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they're both great all around defenseman and then two players and Marcus and Ryan Graves
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that that are you know, more known for their defensive play on the left.
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So it'll give us a chance to see which is how the pairs fit
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best, and and then give the younger guys below a chance to push as
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well. Kyle, something hurt this team last year under previous management was maybe
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some limited cap flexibility just for something simple as like a recall from Wilkes.
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Spare sure, do you feel you have sufficient flexibility in the event injuries or
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absences do happen. Yeah, So the way that we've built it out now is we feel we can carry with this. I mean, we obviously wanted
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we were trying to get to have it beat twenty three players on the roster,
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but we want to always be able to do twenty two. And then
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also we're not going to be afraid to use waivers to get our get flexibility
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or lose guys on. I've never operated that way, and you know,
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sometimes it's you never know, if you know you're think you have this fear
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that if you put a guy on way, he's gonna go else where, He's going to be great. If you're at that point where you're unsure,
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We'll just put them on and it will wish them off. They go and
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show us that they're better elsewhere that we'll be happy for them. But we
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I think with us we need to contied to have that competition, especially with
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the number of players that are there. We don't want to box ourselves in
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the way that we haven't mapped out. Now we have room for twenty two to start on opening night. Of course, things will happen in camp that
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will change all of that one way or the other. You never know what's going to happen. But as we sit today, that's the way we look
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at it. So one extra d one extra forward, and you know we'll
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go with the best thirteen seven and two out of camp. And Kyle,
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one of the other things that happened last week is you took on the role
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of general manager. How did you get to that decision and how do you
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envision I guess the system of checks and balance is working. Um well.
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This process in the Carlson trade probably affirmed to me, not anything with myself,
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but with what we have in the group in the office, just in
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terms of the creativity and the amount of the amount of work they want to
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put in their capabilities and think you know, Jason Speza and Vuki Mapofu Fuki
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especially, I think through this he had constant ideas different things that we could
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offer and try. It was a very complicated process with San Jose, with
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with other teams involved, and Vooki continually showed me throughout that you know,
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I know he's this is this will be his fourth season in the league,
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but you know he's he I think showed during this process but also during free
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agency that he's capable of taking on a lot more and was very impressive.
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And then Jason, who's been in management and he's just been for a year,
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but he's been He was great throughout and in terms of the checks and
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balances, I think, I mean, they could tell you directly if you
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have when you have a chance to talk to them. But I want everyone
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in our in our front office and in our building to directly call me out,
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including everybody in the room, when you don't think I'm doing something right
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or doing something well. I can, I can. I want to hear
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that versus here the opposite. So they handle it that way, and then
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the way that the ownership group flows like they you know, it's here's what
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I'm thinking. They come right back with different questions, they want to know
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what everyone else is thinking, and then it's it's been you know, very
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open, transparent and worked well. I just feel right now that where I
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came to on the general manager side was I was weary of with that growth,
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even in the progression that I've seen in those others that are in our own building, bringing another person in and kind of unsettling the group again,
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because there's been a lot of that happened, you know, from April to
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now, and I think right now I have the certainly the energy and I
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and I felt comfortable with what I saw from you know, not only Vouki
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and Jason, but also Amanda Kessel and Trevor during agency UH saw Andy Saws
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Soocier and Eric Heasley UM and our group there, Tom Kastopolis, Kevin Stevens,
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all the people that were around during that time. UM, I just
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felt like we you know, it may not it may not have the decades
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of experience. UM. You know that that that you're you're trying to find
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everything. But I felt that we were in a really good spot and I didn't want to unsettle it further, and I feel like with what the what
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they all bring in my current energy level and where I'm at, that it
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was it was just best to move the group ahead that way. Kyle,
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you pushed hard for a deal for Carlson on July first. Can how regularly
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did you stay in touch with the Sharks from there? You know, were there any kind of quiet periods or there wasn't communication? And then was there
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a moment or two where you thought someone else might swoop in and get the
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player? I think you always think that. I don't know, maybe there's
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this paranoia that just goes with this um when it's a good player that you
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really want. I think you always have you operate, and I think that's
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why you spend a lot of your nights staring up at the ceiling rather than
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sleeping. Of different ways you can make it happen different you know, know
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the market, which other teams are going to jump in, who can beat
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you to it? How can they beat you to it? How can you
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outdo them? And I think that's where the staff also jumped in as well
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and said, Okay, here's where we're at is what is what's important to
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San Jose in the short and long run. What's important to the other teams
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that are getting involved. I would say we pushed hardest in the last week
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to try to make it all work can happen. I still think on July
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first, I know it was more of a public thing on July first than
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it had been of late, but I actually think that was more like that
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was more like the opening rounds of the championship fight per se, where it
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was feeling each other out, and then we kind of got into the later
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stages here this week. So, Kyle, was it the Canadians inclusion at
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the end of that was the turning point of this or was there kind of
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a tipping point that got this done? Well, there were a few other There were a few teams involved at the end. That was the the Jeff
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component and and and moving moving Jeff on UM and so there were a few
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teams and they all had different priorities at this time um and where they were
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at. And the part that made it difficult was that this all happened after free agencies, so with the cap being flat, um, you know,
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there was very limited cap space for teams, so you're trying to figure out the all the imaginations and the the salary components of it that are going to
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work. But obviously the Canadians jumping in, I think it showed, you
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know, they're where they're at in terms of the quality of their their group
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and management. They wanted to jump in and try to help themselves. Um.
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But and and also helped get this across the line, so they were able to accomplish what they wanted to accomplish. San Jose. You know,
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they've got tremendous flexibility and a great group of young players forming there. And
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then we're at a different spot than both those teams. So I thought it
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was something that worked out well for everybody. Yeah, hey, Kyle,
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when you make a move of a Carlson of that magnitude, I don't know
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if consults the right word, but do you talk to any of the Big three, especially because how this might impact his role? Um? You know,
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I I'm never looking for approval. I'm looking for um. You know
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in Chris's spot, you know you're looking for Okay, this is what this
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is what we're thinking, Chris. Um. You know, here's how we
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see it working. And just so we have an idea for where he's at.
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Unsurprisingly, with Chris, it was very clearly whatever's going to make us
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better and help us win, So I think that's you know, this process
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has also shown me why it was appealing for me to come here because Sally,
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the group of guys that have won here altogether, that's all they care
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about. They're not worried about their power play time, they're not worried about
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anything other than than winning and whatever's going to help the team win they want
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to do and they'll do. And that's not just the roster, it's it's
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off the ice, it's everything, and um it was it's been shown through
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this process to be everything that everybody says about them, and you all in
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the room have been a around them far more than I, um and know
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them much more personally than I do at this stage, especially where I haven't
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been around them every day in the season. Um. They're tremendous competitors and
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they want to win and they back it up with everything that they say and more importantly, everything that they do. And UM, it's been a lot
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of fun so far to to to work with them, and um it's uh,
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everything that everyone says about them is one percent true.
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