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NFL Draft night from Detroit: Special guests, stories & reactions with Dan Orlovsky talking Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Rome Odunze, Michael Pennix Jr and Malik Nabers + Dallas Turner stop by

NFL Draft night from Detroit: Special guests, stories & reactions with Dan Orlovsky talking Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Rome Odunze, Michael Pennix Jr and Malik Nabers + Dallas Turner stop by

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NFL Draft night from Detroit: Special guests, stories & reactions with Dan Orlovsky talking Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Rome Odunze, Michael Pennix Jr and Malik Nabers + Dallas Turner stop by

NFL Draft night from Detroit: Special guests, stories & reactions with Dan Orlovsky talking Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Rome Odunze, Michael Pennix Jr and Malik Nabers + Dallas Turner stop by

NFL Draft night from Detroit: Special guests, stories & reactions with Dan Orlovsky talking Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Rome Odunze, Michael Pennix Jr and Malik Nabers + Dallas Turner stop by

NFL Draft night from Detroit: Special guests, stories & reactions with Dan Orlovsky talking Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Rome Odunze, Michael Pennix Jr and Malik Nabers + Dallas Turner stop by

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Fellows. If. The Twenty Twenty

0:02

Four Nfl Draft. A

0:05

vague about. How. Things are different

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Last year we are add the Nfl

0:09

draft and get an opportunity catching guys.

0:12

Coming. Off the stage this time and were

0:14

in Sullivan's Here in the West in. In.

0:16

Detroit will sit around. chop it

0:18

up there in Alaska is gonna

0:20

come through. Marcus Spears going to

0:22

get some athletes later on Friday.

0:25

T. Channing. Are more see

0:27

welcome to the Pivot. So different show

0:29

Forest is a is going to be not

0:31

necessarily a livestream what is going to be

0:33

as watching the show. Job. With it

0:35

a. Chain we've had three of

0:37

these guys on the show already.

0:39

Is is expected to be a

0:41

crazy day. Trades people, drop and

0:43

bag maybe five six quarterbacks in

0:45

the first fifteen pigs. what are

0:47

you excited about? With. His draft

0:50

beer on here Bro the quarterback. Good.

0:52

We know, I hate, I hate. That.

0:54

Would football Now you gotta had a guy

0:56

You have to have their guy Page mom

0:59

said understand what are my the Lamar Jackson

1:01

The.and we talked about him all the time

1:03

on his show. You gotta have their guy

1:05

who's going to find that guy is Michael

1:08

Clinics as you go go later. I really

1:10

do believe Kale Kale Williams then we already

1:12

talked to on so Jane Daniels I think

1:14

that's different Us to like numbers of an

1:16

athletic can be anything Drake May who's going

1:19

to go let like those next guy's bow

1:21

knicks who's gonna go next? I really do

1:23

and I hate I. Would love to talk

1:25

about Dallas Turner. I played it. gives him

1:27

an app icons to get some In high

1:30

school down to South Florida They have some

1:32

dogs on deaver. they have some dogs. Marvin.

1:35

Harrison Julia they got some Dogs are there but the

1:37

quarterbacks. That's what it's about. If you don't have the

1:39

guy, you can win in his league for it and

1:41

see. Chairs. Talking about the quarterbacks

1:43

were talking about the craziness. The thing

1:45

we will talk about tonight is running

1:47

backs Rock! We thought it would breeze

1:49

Hall is draft. He was the first

1:51

off the board in the second half

1:54

when you see the waiting game has

1:56

changed. To. That point Yeah why

1:58

is it that the running. There is

2:00

no longer value the way it was.

2:02

Were two of you guys when it's

2:04

hot tin ear drum yeah are man

2:06

it's crazy of a First Let me

2:08

say there's no better feeling than doing

2:10

his show. And coming from the D

2:12

pause. Pause. Ah,

2:15

I meant to say that my way, Terminal?

2:17

I know. mood of right? But anyway,

2:20

Le Mans and my mood handy? The.

2:22

Care that you are? Say no daily now.

2:25

I will say that I had it on my.

2:29

Pillow, I know. I mean it's crazy

2:31

right? When a crazy time to not

2:34

see any running mates projected the going

2:36

into in an earlier paid screaming a

2:38

first run around our which is crazy

2:40

What? The running game will never go

2:42

away. You. Know what else are running

2:44

game there's no offense so are these guys

2:46

in exist? Oh in a category of how

2:48

the that the the position has been undervalued

2:51

and now would start a leak into the

2:53

into the draft self let you know. hopefully

2:55

when you get that once in a lifetime

2:57

tournaments at that position then you have to

3:00

make a move. But I think and is

3:02

pretty good a draft we don't have that

3:04

caliber guys. we have a ton of great

3:06

quarterbacks I think we'll see a lot of

3:08

it and go off the boy early. may

3:11

be in a in a first in. Takes

3:13

all six seven possibly what's will see

3:15

mode above Michigan Court Court. Lovely nice.

3:17

You know I live my life gives

3:20

well as. You. Know I like

3:22

my life give well as Coach Bret what

3:24

network and play operating under the bed run

3:26

tobacco monotonous. Rothys nice but again he goes

3:28

back to his here once in a life

3:31

is he has a point. Is.

3:33

Here Derrick Henry is he a Christian

3:35

Mccaffrey see as be of that caliber

3:37

in order to be in his to

3:39

the other piece of into you know

3:41

you guys move. Got to experience this

3:44

I didn't phrase see that experience it

3:46

on nearly the highest level and going

3:48

in the top ten? What is that

3:50

moment like for some of these men

3:52

that will be drafted in the first

3:54

round where you know you've sort of

3:57

change the trajectory. Of your family's

3:59

last name, hit it on the head right there,

4:01

the family. As much as it means

4:03

to you, it's just knowing

4:06

what it's going to do for your family.

4:08

The anticipation of hearing your name called,

4:10

the excitement that follows. You know, just

4:12

I'm anticipating, you know, seeing the smiles

4:14

on these young men's faces each and

4:16

every year. That's what I look forward

4:19

to. And then to see the reactions

4:21

of the families, you know, if they're

4:23

at the draft or even if they're

4:25

at home, you just get a certain,

4:27

you know, just a feel good reaction

4:29

from the family, knowing this is my

4:31

baby. All of the hard work has

4:33

finally paid off. And we look forward

4:36

to seeing these young men develop to

4:38

see what type of players they

4:40

become. But it's nothing like, you

4:42

know, just seeing the joy,

4:44

you know, from the sacrifices that come

4:47

from the players, their families. It's

4:49

such a good moment for me. You

4:51

know, Freddie T. talking about the joy,

4:53

the elation that can be tonight. We

4:56

saw our family, Joey Porter Jr. and

4:58

his pops Peasy, sit in the room,

5:00

the green room, the entire first round

5:02

last year, Will Leves, the same way.

5:04

And we've seen that throughout

5:06

the draft. They only had 12 or 13 guys come this

5:09

time. And I believe that's a part of it. I think

5:12

if these dudes don't feel like they going in

5:14

the top 20, top 15, they're not

5:16

trying to come

5:19

and deal with

5:21

that embarrassment. Look,

5:24

hi. Welcome to the Detroit 2024 NFL

5:27

draft. Welcome to the NFL draft in Detroit.

5:35

Let's go, Big D. How do you

5:40

like that? About

5:48

the rough ball. We're gonna say that for

5:50

another day, but the

5:52

pride of the night no act. A

5:54

little some surprise for you and

5:56

bringing out a few other surprises for you. So

5:58

and here you go. Detroit! What's

6:02

Detroit? What up? The

6:07

inside of Mexico, the West Virginia, the East Virginia,

6:10

the United States, let's go! Hey,

6:18

he ain't do nothing about the grass.

6:21

Detroit Lions. Oh,

6:23

they bringing him up. Oh, okay. Eight

6:27

hundred. That boy's a good boy. Yes,

6:30

he can. Tell me what you got to say, just a

6:32

minute. He's so good. Look

6:34

how his power's over. He's a hustic. Ty,

6:38

the gold is a bull. Hey,

6:41

that man was a bad man a lot. Look at

6:43

this guy. Barry, his is gonna work, though. You see

6:45

how Barry works? Barry

6:47

can probably give you the business.

6:50

Yeah, Barry ain't giving me shit. How many

6:52

of them his ain't working, because he just

6:54

broke himself. He didn't go down to people.

6:57

Yo, yo, what up Detroit? This

7:01

is crazy. I can't believe it. But

7:04

before we get off the stage, I need to hear one thing.

7:07

Shane Ray Gough. Shane

7:09

Ray Gough. Shane Ray Gough. Shane

7:13

Ray Gough. Shane

7:16

Ray Gough. Oh, man. He's

7:19

about to get money, too. Yeah, right here. They

7:23

gotta play some rhymes. Let's go, baby!

7:28

Aiden Strong, let's turn up

7:30

tonight, baby! Let's get it! Yeah,

7:33

we love water. Aiden

7:35

though. I know Aiden, but I can tell. Aiden

7:39

got out of the quarterback. That's all they care about. I want to

7:41

hit the club with Aiden. Aiden.

7:44

Detroit has the two quietest stars of all time. What's

7:46

up, Detroit? What's up, football fans? Thank

7:48

you for showing the world. What are we doing here tonight?

7:50

They just said a word. Great job, guys. Thank you. Look.

7:55

Eric Sanders got us. Great

7:58

job, guys. the way the girl is. That's

8:01

the best of them. Let's break on three. That's the best

8:03

of them. Naturally. The

8:05

only job I got that said, what up

8:07

though? No, nobody done. What up though? I

8:10

know the thing, these boys don't talk though.

8:12

That's hard. Come on. I

8:15

like him as he's Roger. Okay. He

8:18

loves it. Oh, Roger even raises

8:20

it, yeah. Okay. Okay,

8:24

the 2024 NFL Draft is now underway.

8:30

The Chicago Bears are going down on the call. They

8:43

got a little squad. They got stuff, bro. Receivers

8:47

together at the Andre Swift. Who's the

8:49

OC? Guys

8:53

all talked about that will lead to his

8:55

success and this team's success. I

8:57

love your understanding why they all dap

9:00

each other off when the pick

9:02

is in. Why does everybody

9:04

like hug? We made all of those games. What

9:08

I'm saying is they're like custom-made. Like

9:11

y'all knew what y'all was coming out of makeup

9:13

pink anyway. And we're first pick. So

9:16

we're celebrating the fact that you need eight of them. The

9:20

commissioner was talking about this. He got it said. The

9:23

first pick of the 2024 NFL Draft. I

9:27

knew this when he was on the throat. I just said he

9:29

ain't say nothing, but I could tell by his demeanor that he

9:32

knew it was about to happen. With

9:37

the first pick, in the 2020 NFL

9:40

Draft, the Chicago

9:42

Bears' team, Taylor

9:45

Graham, one

9:47

of them, Taylor Graham. There

9:53

he is, Chicago. Well,

9:56

fellas, there it is. Last week we were

9:58

in Los Angeles with Caleb. Shane

10:00

you said he already knew though It's

10:04

something and he said he didn't say nothing. He tell

10:06

us nothing off the camera on camera You

10:09

just knew with that smile when you talked about it

10:11

when you asked him about Chicago when you asked him

10:13

about the bare fans Y'all

10:15

asked different questions and you could

10:17

just he was just he was

10:20

just smiling and it was the best decision That

10:23

man can play football man Caleb is special.

10:26

I just told somebody we was down in we're

10:28

in Detroit now I told somebody I said this

10:30

is a franchise-changing

10:33

Athlete but a franchise-changing

10:35

person. I he impressed the hell

10:37

out of me last week pretty tea What

10:40

goes along though with being

10:42

the first pick of

10:45

a team in in that year? And now

10:47

for Caleb Williams being the first overall pick

10:49

of the entire draft pressure. It's

10:52

a lot of pressure that goes along with it Excitement

10:54

from the fan base, you know

10:56

and even excitement from Caleb, you

10:59

know He's the guy who sat on the show

11:01

with us and he said look I was groomed

11:03

for this Mm-hmm asked him if he was made

11:05

he was created in the lab So

11:07

he's been prepped and prepared for this moment for forever

11:10

Now he has his opportunity to go out there

11:12

and he's subtle away from the

11:15

fan and the noise He's

11:17

misunderstood But when the lights

11:19

are on as much as he's

11:21

when he was walking on the red carpet and

11:23

the crowd started yelling and it Started roaring. He

11:26

started getting hyped and running around here when they

11:28

just select him call his name He ran out

11:30

in front of the crowd. He's ready to go

11:32

So I believe when the lights are on he

11:35

turns into a different person Then

11:37

what he is or what he's perceived to

11:39

be on social media. So for me, I

11:41

love a person like this I

11:43

wish him the best and I hope he goes out

11:45

there and he lives up to the hype and expectations

11:48

what I enjoyed about it was the Genuine

11:51

excitement. Yep, right the the

11:53

screaming the beating on his

11:55

chest the turning around smiling

11:57

because he's really known when

12:00

he was going to be this pick since the 2023

12:02

season started. He

12:05

just had to make sure he stayed healthy and

12:07

make sure he played the level of ball he's

12:09

used to playing. And so I

12:11

think for me, it's about the decade

12:14

plus of work he

12:16

put into this, the treatments

12:19

he said he had to

12:21

get, the training, the nutritionist,

12:23

living on your own in

12:25

high school, because it was

12:27

the thing that was best for this part

12:30

of your career. And I

12:32

think when you're north of star is always,

12:34

I want to be the best quarterback possible.

12:36

I want to be the first overall draft pick

12:39

of the NFL draft. And you

12:41

get there, that's unimaginable. I

12:44

know what it was like to just make a team. So

12:47

to set those goals at a young age, to

12:49

have the discipline to work toward

12:51

those and now accomplish it, man, salute

12:53

to him, all respect to him. I

12:56

think he deserves it. And

12:59

Caleb Williams is now the starting

13:01

quarterback of the Chicago Bears. I

13:04

think about the ball, bro. I really

13:06

do after meeting him last week, I think about the

13:08

ball. I think he has a

13:10

good opportunity. Look at the players that

13:12

are surrounding him. His weapons? What they're trying

13:14

to bring in, what they've done. They got

13:16

him two nice tackles. So they

13:18

got the receivers there with DJ Moore

13:20

and Keenan. They were able to

13:23

trade and get Keenan for like a fourth

13:25

round pick. So. Swift in the backfield? Yeah,

13:27

Swift is back there. So let's get it.

13:29

With all of those pieces, man, I think

13:31

it gives him an opportunity to go out

13:33

there and be successful. Everything else just has

13:36

to marry up. Bro, he's jumping out there.

13:38

It's getting cold, though. There's

13:40

record temps here, right? My

13:43

homeboy Joe, sitting in the big

13:45

room. He's right

13:47

there to the left. And my dog, yeah. He in

13:49

the big room now, Chance. He

13:51

in the big room. Yeah,

13:55

my dog in the big room. Yeah.

13:58

There He is. Jaden.

14:03

Came to see the right thing to say

14:05

that it was at least that I think

14:07

or say we seemed was my only with a

14:09

do. It was a hermaphrodite. We

14:12

were your stomach growls. I'm. There.

14:15

To city is funny. I was do

14:17

sportscenter design everyone's Ivorian, older, You

14:19

get to go back home. Houses for their they

14:22

says we're going there are very nice, very

14:24

nice, Super. Loud

14:26

and like as as ago when

14:28

I was urging mother had presumed

14:30

that subsisting on his eyes shaded

14:32

know the game is as bad

14:34

as when he ran on the

14:36

matter. Is.

14:41

Also good for. A

14:44

lot of wrote it is that

14:46

is to school I'd and so

14:48

you reduce the not not not

14:50

very suspenseful but. Taylor. Been

14:52

Jaden seemed genuinely excited about this

14:54

man's death. Or when you look

14:56

at these two takes two guys

14:58

you think very highly. Oh, ya

15:00

know how much pressure is on

15:02

both among. Other: there's a

15:04

ton of pressure on Caleb. Couple reasons

15:06

why Taylor was a number one ranked

15:09

quarterback tom and on high school. He.

15:11

Went to Oh you started relatively early

15:13

on your and then goes a win.

15:15

The Heisman forgot to add three straight

15:17

number one picks in Lincoln Riley. So.

15:20

The expectation for him, his vehicle year

15:22

different than everybody else. And if we're

15:25

keeping it real about Justin. They.

15:27

Gave up to Number One's Chicago to

15:29

go draft. just and three years ago.

15:32

Justin. In the midst of

15:34

to head coaches three offensive coordinators,

15:37

Had. Fifty four touchdowns and thirty interceptions.

15:39

Nine thousand yards. I'm not centered

15:41

zone. everybody was. he was. You

15:44

know? Patrick. But.

15:46

That's pretty good and a bad situation and they

15:48

may moved on from a new nonsense. I think there's

15:50

a ton of pressure. On. Kids be

15:52

like a guy. A guy. Obviously a

15:54

lot on Jaden number to pick. You.

15:58

Can make the case that. his

16:00

season wasn't Joe Burroughs, but it was it

16:03

was remnant of Joe Burroughs in 19 and

16:05

how special it was. I,

16:09

you know, in Washington with the new regime,

16:12

the new ownership, they want to get a new

16:14

stadium. Like there's a lot for him

16:16

to go be special as well.

16:19

And then the situations, though, like you said, my

16:21

with Justin, I think Justin was put in bad

16:23

situation with Chicago and the room. The

16:26

situation Caleb put in now, the situation

16:28

is David put in. I think the

16:30

situation that Caleb is in is the

16:32

best situation in the history of the

16:34

NFL draft for a number one picked

16:36

quarterback. In the history? History.

16:40

All right. So I did this

16:42

research. The Bears went, I

16:44

think, seven and 10 last year, if I'm correct.

16:46

So not a number one picked team. Right.

16:49

A number one select quarterback. Right. Yeah.

16:51

Number one pick team as far as record. What does

16:54

I'm saying? Yeah, they are. The only other team that

16:56

had more wins than that when

16:58

they were selecting number one and they took

17:00

a quarterback, I think, were the Colts took

17:02

Jeff George in 89. They

17:04

were eight and eight at the time, I believe. So

17:07

you're talking about just wins and losses. That's

17:09

the second best ever when you took a quarterback.

17:13

Their defense was the number one defense need to fail the last

17:16

half of the year points per game. I don't think they're that.

17:18

But like they're probably going to be top six, top eight. Keenan's

17:21

had four straight thousand yard seasons. DJ's a

17:23

thousand yard receiver. Cole commit the top

17:25

ten tight end with

17:28

Swift's coming off a career year. Like

17:30

this is by far the best situation

17:32

for a number one quarterback. I think Jayden goes into

17:34

a good place though with the skill players for sure.

17:37

Then sticking with the quarterback. Right. So we

17:40

just recently had Caleb on the

17:42

show. Yeah. Great episode. We have. Thank you.

17:44

We had an opportunity to learn, you know,

17:47

the process in which he had to

17:49

go through as a young player, Pop

17:51

Warner, high school, college, et cetera. He

17:54

was prepped and prepped for that each moment.

17:56

He's lived up to all of the hype

17:59

on every level. Does that

18:01

make you feel better with him? You

18:03

spoke about pressure. Does it make

18:05

you feel better about him going into

18:07

the NFL as the number one draft

18:10

pick knowing he's been able to be

18:12

as good as the hype has followed him? Yeah,

18:14

and I also think he's been prepped to be

18:17

a pro. I don't

18:20

know if it was in your guys' episode talking about

18:22

he had his own apartment or something like that, right?

18:24

So that's abnormal. I

18:27

remember stories of guys that were getting

18:30

drafted at that position early on in

18:32

other organizations and the moms and dads,

18:35

like sitting with the general manager and the owners and being

18:37

like, hey, will you make sure that you protect my

18:39

baby? It doesn't seem like that's

18:41

the case with Caleb. Like he seems like the adult

18:43

in the room. So I

18:45

think like he's equipped to handle it. I think that

18:47

like, dude, if you're the

18:49

number one pick, you can't be that humble. You

18:51

just can't be. You know what I'm saying?

18:53

Like you got to walk in and be like, I'm the baddest dude

18:55

on the planet. You know, like that's the only way you flip about

18:58

organizations. He has that shit too. Yeah, like you

19:00

got to have something in your neck to be

19:02

like, I would say to the

19:04

two best I was ever around were Peyton

19:07

Manning and Matthew Stafford. They were two people at

19:09

the same time, you know, like you

19:12

guys been in locker rooms like they

19:14

everywhere they went. They knew I'm the

19:17

guy and I'm the guy no

19:19

matter where locker room field out

19:21

in the public at the same time, they went

19:23

out of their way to make sure that everybody

19:26

felt like they just wanted to be one of the guys.

19:28

You know what I'm saying? Like they

19:31

know that they're more important than you but they

19:33

want you to know that they don't think that

19:35

you know what I'm saying? And I think Caleb

19:37

has a little bit of that. He's saying he

19:39

seemed to have that when you talked about oh,

19:42

but you know, so did you expect Drake

19:44

made? Yeah, I've been to where it gets

19:46

interesting. No, the next the

19:48

next hour. I think it's going to be fascinating

19:51

in this draft. I think bombs away for Arizona

19:53

for so the drink may pick

19:55

in Carolina. There's a couple things

19:57

like listen his feet. talk

20:00

about the positive also to create you give

20:02

him is this suit this is a dance

20:04

this is a Dan or lousy NFL

20:07

he's right come on bro I actually

20:09

would wear that you

20:14

know the baby blue and the gray

20:16

um this guy's wildly talented like he

20:18

is I

20:30

called a couple of games early on in college you know

20:32

I remember them saying like he's got my homes to his

20:34

game when it comes to like the raw mechanics

20:37

he's he's got a lot of work in his game when

20:39

it comes like mechanically you got to get a lot better

20:41

his feet are all over the place comes

20:43

from a crazy competitive family the

20:46

reason I liked him in New England was because I

20:49

thought that New England would you Kobe they're not ready

20:51

to win they could sit like and

20:53

he's not gonna be pressured to get on the

20:55

field right right now I think that's the by

20:57

far best he needs the Jordan love treatment he

20:59

needs to sit and make

21:02

sure that like he worked look at his feet they're

21:04

all over the place like very rarely does he play

21:06

in rhythm at some point he's gonna have me

21:09

and early on in the season this is real sick this

21:11

place is egg I don't cut you up yeah so but

21:15

before the beginning of the season you

21:17

were preaching okay Drake make it end

21:19

up being the first number one pick

21:21

overall pick yeah what changed about that

21:23

throughout the season and he is the

21:25

falling to three is it more of

21:27

an ascension by Jaden that put him

21:29

at three and then also to not

21:31

playing well enough to be number one

21:33

yeah I would tell you

21:35

the truth is I was disappointed in Drake's

21:38

mechanics this year and that there was

21:40

never an improvement now I don't know

21:42

how much it was coached at North

21:44

Carolina College football I don't know but

21:46

that never that never got better and

21:49

as a young kid you can get away with it a

21:51

little bit three years into college you want to see an

21:53

improvement in that and I don't think it did and

21:56

then yeah there was the element of like when I cut

21:58

on Jaden's tape I was like oh my god Yeah,

22:00

it can go and that was that was

22:02

surprising in comparison to 22 Obviously Caleb was was

22:04

at worst gonna be you know The second pick

22:07

of the draft type of thing for a

22:09

while and then I want to

22:11

ask you man Cuz it's funny because I messaged

22:13

you about being skinny. Yeah, but we had Jaden

22:15

on Yeah, I've met Michael

22:17

Pennick and all and like

22:19

meeting Caleb. He was a thicker guy He's a

22:21

thicker dude looking at Drake may never met Drake,

22:24

but he's just a thicker thing Does that mean

22:26

something to be a bigger dude like that? Um,

22:28

I Think there's value in it for

22:31

sure. I think that the ability

22:33

to be tall in the pocket does

22:35

matter You obviously have to take hits now. They

22:37

don't get it. We the quarterbacks don't get the

22:39

way they did when y'all were playing

22:41

Yeah, you know I'm saying like I

22:44

always make the reference you guys remember the NFC

22:46

title game with Eli in San Francisco He lied

22:48

died on the field You

22:50

know, I'm saying quarterbacks don't get hit like that Yeah, you

22:52

know, but also there was the most amount of injuries to

22:54

quarterbacks last year in the NFL so I

22:57

think it matters a little bit but not Not

22:59

as much certainly as it used to because

23:02

you don't need to just stand there and

23:04

just take a beating the way that they

23:06

Did years ago then what's the what's the

23:08

difference in? Playing

23:11

the quarterback position in

23:13

college. Yeah, right not from I'm not

23:15

talking about the technical Standpoint

23:17

or the skill set or all those things. Obviously

23:20

you need to be better from a mental and

23:22

physical Aspect what's

23:24

the difference in the person the leadership

23:26

role? Yeah, what's required of you could

23:28

be three guys Yeah, we were

23:31

having a great conversation about this last night with

23:33

like a bug was there and Joe

23:36

clad and Schrager and EJ manual and

23:39

I was saying one of the hardest things for the quarterbacks

23:42

to go from college to the NFL is in

23:45

College football we all

23:48

live the same daily life on a pretty

23:50

much consistent basis 18

23:52

to 22 we all kind of wake up we do

23:54

the same thing we go to the same

23:56

types of classes We go

23:58

to practice practice. We live the same and

24:00

we all had a similar interest and whatnot. When you go to the

24:02

NFL, you guys know it. You walk

24:04

in the locker room, you got a group of 20-year-olds that

24:06

want to go hit the town that got a bunch of

24:08

money. Then you got a group of 24-year-olds that

24:11

are quiet bodies, and, um, you

24:13

know, they got a girlfriend or a new fiancé

24:15

that are a little bit home-bodied. Then you got

24:18

the 28-year-old who's newly married with a newborn, and

24:20

then you got the 33-year-old who's got three or

24:22

four kids, and his family might be at home,

24:24

his family might be live halfway across the country.

24:27

You got to be able to connect

24:29

with all of them and need all of them. And,

24:32

like, when you're all living a different daily life, that's

24:34

challenging for a young kid. That's new

24:36

for a young kid. Like, how do I relate

24:38

to you? So I think that's

24:40

a big thing. I

24:42

also think, like, you know,

24:44

in college football, unless

24:46

you go to, like, one, maybe three or four

24:49

schools, like, there's other things going on. When

24:52

you go to the NFL, you're the shove. You're

24:55

the deal, you know? And there's an

24:57

immense amount of, like, professionalism that

24:59

has to go on on a day-to-day... And

25:01

also, like, when you go, very few quarterbacks

25:03

that get drafted early on are gonna lose

25:05

the game on Saturday afternoons, because they throw

25:07

three picks. That will happen in the NFL.

25:10

How do you walk into the locker room on Monday when

25:13

you know you're the reason you lost? How

25:15

do you handle the 30-year-old

25:17

who is, you know... A

25:20

great player, a leader already. You're wobbling through the locker

25:22

room, because his body's broken out, because he

25:24

just had 30 carries, and you threw a pick six to

25:26

lose the game. And he's 30, and he's fighting for a

25:28

contract. How do you

25:30

handle that? Like, what's the, you know,

25:33

the personality interaction that matters in that?

25:36

And college just doesn't necessarily get everybody ready for that,

25:38

because they don't experience it, you know? I

25:40

know we just saw Marvin Harrison go. But

25:42

one more quarterback question about Drake May. The

25:45

Patriots haven't drafted a quarterback in over 30 years,

25:48

and we all know why. But the

25:50

last one they drafted in the first round was

25:52

Mack Jones, who they traded down to Jacksonville.

25:55

War number 10. Had an amazing rookie

25:57

year. Can Drake May come

25:59

in? and be as productive

26:01

in his rookie campaign as

26:03

Mack Jones. Dre, you ain't gonna be able to punt.

26:05

Yeah, Fred, I wouldn't even think about playing him this

26:07

year. Yeah. Couple things. One, New

26:11

England's not even remotely close to winning. This was

26:13

the worst pass protecting offensive line in football last

26:15

year. Their leading receiver had 561 yards. Their

26:18

leading rusher had 642 yards. Okay.

26:20

We're not even close to talking about winning. The second

26:22

thing is this. I was doing a little research on

26:25

this, and it's not like gospel 100%, but

26:28

if you look at the quarterbacks that have

26:30

come into the NFL and got drafted early

26:33

on and had mechanical issues, which Drake May

26:35

does, and they played early, they're the failures.

26:38

I go back to, you know, I go back

26:40

to like, Mitch Dribisky had lower half

26:42

mechanical issues, played right away, has

26:45

struggled. Sam Darnold, lower

26:47

half mechanical issues. Now, certainly situations

26:49

have impacted it, but like lower

26:52

half mechanical issues played right away, struggled.

26:58

I'm trying to think Josh Allen, lower

27:00

half, and a little bit of upper. His rookie

27:02

year, Josh really struggled. Now, he worked at it

27:04

and got better in this nap, but like that

27:06

was a dice roll. There's a

27:08

guy two or three years ago, mechanical issues.

27:11

The long story short is like, if you've

27:13

got mechanical issues, you

27:15

guys notice, all right, so quarterbacks have

27:17

to develop. They have to get rid of the

27:19

bad stuff out of their game, right? To actually

27:21

allow the talent to be a part. If

27:24

you don't allow the time to

27:26

get rid of those bad habits and they got

27:28

to get on the field, the number one thing

27:30

that they will always revert back to is bad

27:32

habits because they're trying to win. Correct. Like I

27:34

got to win on Sunday. Like, oh, we're one

27:36

and three, we're one and four. And

27:38

they never get rid of the bad stuff because we

27:40

got to win, we got to win, we got to

27:42

win. And you don't get to focus on that without

27:45

the burden of winning and like the burden of Sundays.

27:47

And that's why I think there's no,

27:49

there's a reason why Green Bay is, you

27:51

know, 30 plus years of doing

27:53

what they've done is because they allow those guys

27:55

to get rid of the flaws and the

27:57

warts. So then the constant conversation is the

27:59

talent. rather than the fluctuation of play.

28:01

What do you think is the most important?

28:05

Correcting the mechanical errors or the

28:07

mechanical issues that they might have

28:09

or having a veteran guy to

28:11

help them, help bring them along

28:14

and develop? I don't think they're indifferent

28:16

of each other. I would never draft

28:18

a young quarterback and not have a vet in

28:20

the room. I love it. I

28:22

would never. I think it's the dumbest... I think it's

28:24

one of the dumbest decisions in the NFL. I go

28:27

back to years ago, Houston, when they were a franchise

28:29

or expansion team. I think

28:31

it was, was it David Carr? David Carr, yeah.

28:34

I remember Jabbar Gaffney and David Carr. They didn't

28:36

have a veteran quarterback on the team. And that

28:38

was just a setup for failure, in my opinion.

28:40

Because you don't know what's real and what's not.

28:43

There's a lot of great coaches in the NFL. Unless

28:45

you stood there, more often

28:47

than not, unless you stood there and know what it's

28:49

like, it's hard to tell that kid, hey, throw that

28:52

ball on one hitch. That 300-pounder's

28:54

in my way. He's trying to

28:56

split me in half. You know what I'm saying?

28:58

So it's like, I think both of them.

29:00

But I also think, because here's the

29:02

thing, dude, if you are mechanically flawed,

29:06

the coaches are too smart and the defenders are

29:08

too good, they will attack it. And

29:11

then it becomes a problem. Dan, we

29:13

just saw Marvin Harrison Jr. go

29:16

forth. Yeah. Is

29:18

he the fourth best player this year, or

29:20

is he has his daddy's name? Oh,

29:23

this dude's cold. Marvin Harrison Jr.? He can

29:25

play, but I was just

29:27

watching his highlights. Like, I've seen him play,

29:30

but is he cold like that? Yeah, dude,

29:32

I mean, you're talking long, rangy,

29:34

unbelievable feet. Play, his

29:37

play speed is remarkable. His feet in

29:39

and out of his cuts are spectacular.

29:41

The only thing is, he's not this

29:43

burner by you. He won't need to

29:45

be. Contested catches, the body

29:48

control. He's, and, dude, you

29:50

are, it is, like, he's not all

29:52

that different than what we were talking about with like some

29:54

of the cable stuff. This dude's a pro. He

29:57

can go. There's stories that they had

29:59

to... like, um... Extend

30:01

the time on his key card or something. Right, because

30:03

he was working so much in the building at Ohio

30:05

State that, like, they had to give him a different

30:07

key card so he would have access 24-7 type stuff.

30:10

Okay, so if his name was Nate Daniel

30:12

Harrison, he would still be number four-three. Yeah,

30:14

yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. That was my thing.

30:17

That could also be Marvin Harrison Jr.'s little

30:19

brother, though. Yeah. Yeah, it could

30:21

be Nate Daniel. Good. Yeah, it doesn't... Dan,

30:23

you know, we had this conversation on

30:26

Face First before I started this,

30:28

just about family. Yeah. You're

30:30

an amazing father. You got three boys, your

30:32

daughter. You know, I've met them all. I met your

30:34

wife. How

30:37

much throughout your career

30:39

does that evolution of coming

30:41

into the league... Like,

30:43

you talked about the, like, the tears of

30:45

people, right? Or the levels of people. How

30:48

much does or did your evolution

30:50

help you be a better

30:52

pro? Yeah, well, I appreciate

30:54

it. I think that, like, coming

30:57

to the NFL was the first time I was ever on men. And

31:01

I don't mean that was the first time I was ever on males, but

31:04

it was the first time I was ever on men.

31:06

Like, guys that I felt

31:08

were like me, crazy

31:10

competitive, wildly confident,

31:12

out for personality, highly

31:15

driven, but also, like, really

31:18

liked being a dad and really enjoyed being

31:20

a husband. It was the first time I

31:22

ever seen it, and so that was very

31:24

much, like, a gravitational pull for me. And,

31:26

you know, like, when I went to the

31:28

NFL, I was under the assumption that, like,

31:31

you couldn't have it. Like, you couldn't really

31:33

be a great dad or wasn't cool to,

31:35

really wasn't cool to be a great husband,

31:37

and you couldn't do that and be a

31:39

really good football player or have the career

31:41

that you wanted. And going to the NFL and

31:43

seeing that, like, oh, no, dude, like, you played for 10

31:46

years. You also, like, you and

31:48

your son like each other. You know, like... Your

31:51

son's 12 years old and you guys talk? Right. It's

31:53

awesome. you know

31:55

what I'm saying? And then, like, oh, you don't talk

31:57

about your wife like, oh, you know, like, the ball

31:59

and... or something like that. And that was

32:01

my first time. But then also, you wanted

32:04

to go one-on-one and hoop and bust my ass and I

32:06

wanted to bust yours. And so it was the first time

32:08

that I was ever around that. And just watching

32:10

how guys parented, watching how guys talked

32:12

to their wife, but also watching how

32:14

guys talked about their wife when their

32:16

wife wasn't there. But

32:19

then also, we'd be in the weight room trying to compete with

32:21

each other. So it had a

32:23

ton of shaping of, like my vantage

32:25

point of what it could be. It

32:29

was super impactful for me. Obviously, you study the

32:31

game, you know, and I always tell you that,

32:33

like when we work together, and I think we

32:36

both always said, you get better when your teammates

32:38

are better. Right, when you know you don't

32:40

want to get left behind on a show or you want to be

32:42

able to compete. Also

32:44

know you have a ton of conversation with

32:47

teams about what they're actually doing

32:49

in ball. What you see, what

32:52

has there been any pull for

32:54

you to put the coaching hat on? In

32:58

that pool, how much does your family weigh

33:00

into that, though, because I know your boys

33:02

are extremely active in sports and different things

33:04

like that. Yeah, I think it gets harder

33:06

to say no to coaching every year I'm

33:08

away from playing. Wow. Yeah, the

33:10

pull is really real. Just

33:13

because I love football, I love the brain

33:15

element of football, I love the impact element

33:17

of football, I love the shape and

33:19

the challenge of it. But

33:22

it's hard, you know, like I always say this, R.C., like, if

33:25

I'm being honest, I think me going into coaching

33:27

would be an ego thing. If

33:29

I'm being dead serious, at

33:32

least right now, me going to

33:34

coaching is not the best thing for my family. Gotcha.

33:37

I got 2.12 year old boys, they're in sixth grade.

33:40

You guys got older kids that like, you

33:42

know, we're starting the time of like, we don't want to hang

33:45

out with you anymore, we want to be with our friends. I

33:47

only have so much time left with that, at least

33:50

that young face with them. So

33:53

as much as I love like thinking about

33:55

that and there's the draw to it, I

33:57

just think it would be an ego thing. And

34:00

just right now, it's just not the best decision

34:02

for my family. I don't

34:04

think it's ever gonna go away though. Yeah. What

34:07

are you the best at? I don't

34:09

really think I'm bad at anything. I tell people, I

34:11

told the Rock. You heard it? Did you hear that?

34:13

What do you say? I don't think I'm really bad

34:15

at anything. But I tell you Dan, I'm better at

34:17

football than you. You're better at

34:19

playing linebacker. I'm a better football player than you. Yeah, I

34:21

would agree with that. I started six years. I would agree

34:23

you're better at football. I told the Rock that too as

34:25

well. So I'm not jumping on you, Dan. But

34:28

what are you better at? Because

34:32

you're a great analyst. We can watch you.

34:35

I watch you run out the back of the end zone. So that's

34:37

not your shit. But

34:39

even like coaching, like honestly,

34:41

your thing, your God-given talent,

34:44

what's the, how do you

34:46

feel your best thing in the world? I think my

34:48

best thing... What were you put here to do? Yeah,

34:50

I think my best thing is I look at football

34:52

like math. Like I was

34:54

put here to do what I'm doing right now.

34:58

Career wise, football wise, for sure. I'm

35:00

way better at TV than I was actually

35:02

playing. I'm better at telling

35:05

you what's happening than actually doing it, unquestionably.

35:10

I always loved math as a kid. I

35:12

was always a numbers person. I

35:15

think that like one of the things

35:17

that I, I guess like really enjoy

35:19

is that I understand football

35:22

in a math capacity. It's 11 on 11. You

35:25

see the line. Yeah. And there's only

35:27

so much. Hey, I want to cut you off. I

35:29

want to cut you off. So Joe all goes to

35:32

the Chargers, bro. Look at the excitement

35:34

on his face. Has the pig

35:36

happened yet? Yes. So he went

35:38

to the Chargers? Yeah. See, this is one

35:40

of my favorite. I think Dave David Carson goes there. Really.

35:44

But what's going on with the Chargers? What

35:47

do you mean? I mean, I don't think

35:49

they're making a lot of great moves. I

35:51

think they did. I don't believe they had

35:53

a great offseason. Well, they did. This offseason

35:55

was necessary for them, though. They're in such

35:57

a bad cap space. that

36:00

like they needed to move on from some of those

36:02

receivers just because, I mean,

36:05

they weren't gonna afford them all. I

36:07

was adamant that they were gonna take an offensive

36:09

line and just because that's who Harbaugh is and

36:11

who Harbaugh wants to be. Harbaugh

36:14

believes as long, I think his quote was,

36:18

the offensive line is not

36:20

dependent on everybody else. Everybody

36:23

else is dependent on the offensive line. Very

36:25

much, yep. So, man, that, hey, Joe Hall

36:27

just doesn't care, bro. Channing, Channing made a

36:29

joke. Hey, man, you're the fifth pick of

36:31

the draft. We were at Notre Dame, we're

36:34

talking to the team. Channing picks, you know,

36:36

Channing does stand-up comedy. So he's picking on

36:38

people that are sitting, the players that are

36:40

sitting there. He makes a joke about Joe

36:42

Ault, doesn't laugh. Maybe

36:45

in front of you funny. Don't face. Maybe

36:48

in front of you funny. Hey, was it a funny joke?

36:50

Dan, I laughed. All my shit's funny, but

36:53

he was too big to get mad at,

36:55

but I caught a guy on the set

36:57

like, damn, Joe laughed. Now

36:59

I just saw him and Ryan had to tell me like,

37:01

that's a dude that ain't laugh at Joe. That ain't ever dude

37:04

that ain't laugh at him. He's gonna get in a draft like

37:06

this. Does it truly matter that he hasn't played tackle in

37:08

quite some time? He played tackle. He played

37:11

left tackle though. He played left tackle. He's

37:13

gonna play right now. Giants are making a

37:15

pick. We gotta talk to Rappaport. He's gigantic.

37:18

He said he hadn't played left, he hadn't played tackle in

37:20

years. No, all has only played tackle.

37:24

He's gigantic. He wants to Notre Dame. He's got

37:26

a lot of respect for Rappaport. What you doing,

37:28

Rappaport? So why are you

37:30

interested here, Dan? Because I think

37:32

they take JJ McCarthy. Yes, absolutely.

37:35

Because here's the thing, if they take

37:37

JJ McCarthy, then what

37:39

does Minnesota do? What do

37:41

the Raiders do? What do the Broncos do?

37:44

Like that's, and then also if you take JJ

37:46

McCarthy, it's like, oh,

37:49

they just paid Daniel Jones a gajillion

37:51

dollars last year. And they're

37:54

like, we're out, dude. The

37:56

pace in, bro. They took two minutes. I

37:58

think it's McCarthy. locked in over

38:01

pennants over nicks. Yeah,

38:03

I think I think McCarthy has moved

38:05

up the McCarthy has moved up the

38:07

boards, bro, since the college for

38:10

part of it. Who is this? They got to win

38:12

this year there. Yes, he will step

38:14

in and be their starting quarterback. They

38:16

will. So Daniel Jones will be the backup.

38:18

I would JJ McCarthy and do my second

38:20

quarterback. Is even fourth best quarterback in his

38:23

draft? Yeah,

38:26

probably right now. Fred, you know, like

38:29

he just was like if you asked me if he

38:31

if he played at LSU with their

38:33

people like when he had had

38:35

the season that I think that's a wild

38:38

projection. But I think his his numbers in his

38:40

play look very different if he was at LSU.

38:43

It all marries up. I think he stepped up

38:45

in the bigger moments. His third day I think

38:47

is tremendous. Even some of the quarterbacks that went

38:49

before him. Yeah, they didn't have that success in

38:51

those type of games. Yeah, so I mean,

38:54

you know, I do think he is

38:56

very physically talented. Yeah, I

38:58

think people do miss coming out of

39:00

IMG. He's a top five quarterback. Yeah,

39:02

man, you know, and that's

39:04

that's the other thing when you mentioned some

39:06

of the things with Jaden. Jaden didn't have

39:08

or we didn't get some of those Joe

39:10

Burrow moments because the defense wasn't good enough

39:12

to give him to right. Right.

39:14

No, he didn't have you know, the Texas

39:17

game. He didn't have the Alabama one drive

39:19

to go with him. Yeah, right. You know,

39:21

but but JJ McCarthy didn't get that. Yeah,

39:24

you know, so I think you could see pieces

39:26

of that, you know, in it. Let's see what they do.

39:29

Whoa. Whoa. The

39:31

Giants go Malik

39:34

neighbors. My much. But

39:36

they didn't take the party. And they bought hit

39:38

me a couple a couple of

39:42

days ago. I missed to try to call him back. Maybe

39:45

that was why. But

39:48

if you're Minnesota, you got a

39:50

who's next Tennessee Tennessee, Tennessee's not going to take

39:52

offensive line and land is not going to take

39:55

a look at it. He could go back to

39:57

that and they just got to see They

40:01

could take Fashionew from Penn State. I

40:07

would not be surprised if Tennessee took a wide

40:09

receiver. Why did they go

40:11

wrong here? Callahan came from where? Cincinnati.

40:14

Cincinnati had the trio. Yeah. Now you

40:17

have DeAndre. That does for the young

40:19

quarterback. Right. Why

40:21

do all these kids have on

40:23

sunglasses inside? I

40:26

think it's a style thing. Oh, it's cool. Yeah.

40:28

I think it's just like that. No, you

40:30

can't ask Dan any fashion questions. Is this because

40:32

I got the cardigan? You look good, Dan. I

40:35

thought you had a quarter zip, but you got

40:37

the full-blood. It's the cardigan. It says Detroit. I

40:41

saw Detroit. Dan. Any chance they

40:43

pick up Dallas here? Who? Any chance

40:45

they pick up Dallas? Turner? No. No?

40:49

No. This is either offensive or climate or what? Dan,

40:51

so I have another personal question.

40:54

Yeah. I

40:57

know, and we've had some of

40:59

these conversations. You mentioned

41:02

the things you didn't see in men from home.

41:06

Yeah. You sort of grew

41:08

up without your mom. Yes. In

41:10

ways, and I know you and your father have at

41:13

least a complicated relationship.

41:16

Yeah. How hard has that

41:18

been on you, though? Because now,

41:21

like you said, the difference in

41:23

who Dan Arlovski is now, the

41:25

success, the recognition,

41:28

all of those things, it's

41:30

normally good to share those with people who got

41:32

to see young Dan. It's wild you're asking me

41:34

this. Right. What

41:36

is, how do those relationships

41:39

affect you now? Yeah. So I

41:41

was... I

41:52

was working out this morning, actually, and a song came

41:54

on. I was listening to like, manly

41:56

Christian rock music. I don't know the song

41:58

or the words or whatnot. Not exactly, but

42:00

it triggered my brain. It

42:03

was something about like, you

42:06

remind me of your mother, you love like your

42:08

mother, you fight like me type thing, whatever. And

42:11

it brought back memories like

42:13

of myself and my childhood, the broken home, all

42:16

that stuff. And I

42:18

started to think to myself and I texted my wife,

42:20

this morning I was seeing, I texted my wife and

42:22

I was like, and I really talked

42:24

to my wife about this stuff. I'm like, I don't talk about

42:26

it in general. I texted my

42:28

wife and I was like, it

42:30

was something that I just thought about and she was

42:32

like, what? And I was like, it

42:34

makes me sad. I don't ever tell my wife that.

42:37

She was like, what? And I was like, I don't

42:41

really remember as a kid

42:43

hearing from my dad, like

42:46

I love you or I'm proud of you. And

42:55

it was weird as a 40 year old man, I was

42:57

like, I wonder, like I didn't talk

42:59

to my dad a long time, like I wonder if my dad's

43:01

proud of me. I wonder if

43:03

my dad said, I'm proud of you to

43:05

me now, would that hit

43:07

me like I was a 12 year old kid? And

43:11

I told my wife, it makes me sad that

43:13

I don't remember that from my pops. Because my

43:16

dad did do good stuff for me and sometimes

43:18

I feel bad because I know that he tried

43:21

or whatnot stuff, but to not have the

43:23

memory of my dad saying, I'm proud of

43:25

you or I was proud of you or I

43:27

love you. It makes me

43:29

very aware of trying to overdo it with

43:31

my kids so they know. And

43:36

I don't know if it's the last time I thought

43:38

about it like that. That makes me sad, man, that

43:40

I don't

43:42

have that memory or

43:44

from him. My

43:47

dad is very like, I love you,

43:49

like to his friends, to his

43:52

brothers and sisters. And so he

43:54

was that way with me. But

43:57

to that point, my son's birthday

43:59

was. Monday. And

44:01

like I'm talking, I'm doing things for him.

44:03

His license plate got stolen. So I don't

44:05

get a new license plate. We're having conversations,

44:07

I've FaceTimed him and I didn't tell him

44:09

happy birthday. Now I just saw him the

44:11

day before, you know, and I

44:13

FaceTimed him to call him back. He doesn't answer. And I texted

44:16

him I said, bro, I'm such a dumb ass. I was

44:18

like, Happy birthday, bro. I love you whatever he's

44:20

like, pop, you know, I don't, you don't care

44:22

about none of that. I was like, but still, you

44:25

know, and, and I woke up the

44:27

next morning, and I just sent him a

44:29

text. And you know, I talked about, you

44:32

know, like, I do recognize some of

44:34

my failures as a human. Yeah, where

44:36

I haven't been always

44:38

where a lot of things to preoccupy me

44:41

whether it was football work, and as

44:43

a father, I may have missed. Never tried.

44:45

Like I knew I loved them. Okay, I got

44:47

to do better with that. And also as a

44:50

husband. But I did tell

44:52

him, I said, The one thing I've never questioned

44:54

about myself is how much I love you. Yeah.

44:56

You know, and also, I was like, and

44:58

I've never, I've never had to think

45:01

about pride when it came to you because I'm so

45:03

proud of you, like you wanted the best things I've

45:06

ever done. And I think

45:08

those things are hard for people to say

45:10

sometimes, you know, and I'm

45:13

sure why

45:15

though, I think

45:17

excuse me, I think, I think

45:19

part of it is that sometimes nobody

45:21

told you. Yeah, right.

45:24

And I think that

45:26

makes people go you go one of two

45:28

ways, right? So like, let's say you

45:30

didn't have a great father, and you

45:32

always miss that you make a decision,

45:34

I'm going to be a different father. Yeah, I'm

45:36

going to work in a different way. I'm going

45:39

to connect to my kids differently than my dad

45:41

did. Because I wanted that. Yeah, I missed that.

45:44

And then some people even though they may

45:46

be very good fathers, they're still that same

45:48

sort of hard father because they never heard

45:50

I love you. Yeah. So they don't necessarily

45:52

know or feel like that's an important thing

45:54

because they turned out all right. Yeah, I

45:56

think people can go, you know,

45:58

two different two different ways. with

46:00

it and for you, you

46:03

know, how much of it do

46:05

you think was him having to do a lot

46:07

by himself? Yeah, I mean, my dad, he came

46:09

from, you know, a rough background

46:12

himself and whatnot and broken home and so a

46:14

lot of himself and I'm sure there was that

46:16

pride like of like I'm gonna go and make

46:18

something of my family and I was talented with

46:20

sports so it's like he was gonna push me

46:22

to make sure that I got

46:25

the most out of myself type of thing.

46:27

It's funny with the I love you thing

46:29

because I don't come from the big family

46:31

and again very small. My

46:34

family doesn't know this but

46:36

like when my family, my direct family, not

46:38

my wife but like my direct family, it's

46:40

like my sisters grew up

46:42

without one and my mother like

46:45

when and even my wife's family a little bit when they'll

46:47

be like we'll say bye or whatever and they say I

46:49

love you it's a weird feeling for me. When

46:53

my boys say I love you or people that are

46:55

like my friends it's the easiest thing for

46:57

me to say back. You

47:00

know, cuz like that's I

47:03

didn't I don't grow

47:05

I didn't grow up with family you know what

47:07

I'm saying? I grew up with boys. Yeah. My teammates

47:11

were my family. I remember getting

47:13

married with my to my wife. My wife comes

47:15

from the a big Irish family and

47:18

we bought our house and her family would

47:20

just show up unannounced and

47:22

I would be like, my teammates

47:26

would show up

47:34

and announce and I'd be like, so

47:37

you know like it was this it was

47:39

just this weird it's this

47:41

weird I guess like internal

47:45

maybe programming you know where it's like

47:47

when when family says I love

47:49

you to me I'm like I

47:53

mean something. No

47:55

he doesn't even know how to respond. Yeah. You don't even

47:57

know how to respond. It's odd for me. I get weird.

48:00

It's kind of different, it's vice versa. Correct.

48:02

Your friends versus your family. Usually when your

48:04

boy say, I love you, like, I

48:07

love you too, bro. But your family

48:09

is like, I love you. No, your family

48:11

is like a natural response. It's unnatural. It's

48:13

your family. But it's different for you. Yeah.

48:15

I was going to say, because I started that in

48:19

this generation. Every time I get off the phone,

48:21

I tell my wife, my kids, my everybody,

48:23

I love you. Yeah. I love

48:25

you too. And we got on the phone because in

48:27

my thing, Dan, it's crazy. Like, I don't know if

48:29

this is a wild thought. It's that if something

48:32

happens between this time and

48:34

the next time I talk to you, the last thing

48:36

that you hear from me is for me to say,

48:38

I love you. Yeah. If something was to happen. You're

48:42

a great father. I actually laughed the other day. You

48:44

put out a video. And I'm not doing a little

48:46

thing that you couldn't do. It's stand up. It holds

48:48

your leg off the ground. I'm about to show you

48:51

how real athletes work. But

48:53

I love how your daughters are involved, your wife's involved.

48:55

Yeah. As you were talking, I thought about

48:57

it. Would

48:59

your life have been different if

49:02

your dad thought the way you do? Jana,

49:11

I don't know, man. Like, my

49:15

honest opinion is, I don't know if I

49:17

would have made it in football if

49:20

he was like me. My

49:22

dad pushed me, man. He pushed me

49:24

and he demanded from me. And

49:28

that's the only reason

49:30

I made it. You know what I'm saying?

49:32

That's the only reason I get to sit here somehow. You

49:34

know what I'm saying? I don't know

49:36

if I would have made it in football if

49:38

it wasn't for that. I honestly don't because he

49:40

pushed me so hard. He taught me work ethic

49:43

so hard. I don't know. I

49:47

would like to think that I would be as committed

49:52

to being a dad and a husband as

49:54

I am. But I don't know because I

49:57

was so committed. to

50:00

like, I'm gonna do it differently, I'm gonna do

50:02

it one time, I'm gonna do it right, I'm

50:04

gonna watch the people who have all these marriages

50:07

and families and relationships, and I'm like, what's

50:09

it take, you know, and so like, I don't

50:11

know if I would have been as motivated either,

50:13

you know, for I don't know, like I don't

50:15

know. I don't know if

50:18

Big JC know about Roger's back. Yeah,

50:20

JC Latham just picked Roger up. Yeah,

50:22

Tennessee just picked him, and before he

50:24

can even get to the stage, the

50:26

Falcons pick his end. So we'll see

50:28

how that happens then. We had, a

50:30

year ago, we did the show with

50:32

YouTube TV, we had the

50:34

one and two picks with

50:36

CJ and Bryce, Heisman

50:40

guy, second pick. This year we

50:42

did the same. The number

50:44

two pick was the Heisman guy, number one

50:46

was obviously a Heisman a year ago, two

50:49

years ago, 2022 I believe. Who

50:52

do you think set up to

50:54

have a more successful rookie

50:56

campaign in those two guys? Caleb.

51:00

Why? I mean,

51:02

DJ's a stud, Keenan's still a thousand yard

51:04

receiver, 100 catch guy. I think Cole Komet's

51:07

a really good top 12, top

51:09

10 tight end, the Swift's coming off of

51:11

a career year. Their offensive

51:13

line's above average. I like their offensive

51:15

coordinator, Waldron. I also think this, Fred,

51:17

like, you know, one of my things that I, is

51:19

like a little bit of a pet peeve of mine

51:21

is when people say, you know what's the best thing

51:23

you can give a rookie quarterback? You

51:26

know what? A run game. No,

51:30

it's a defense. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha

51:32

ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha Bruh, no,

51:35

you need to go pick a quarterback when you're like, hey,

51:37

score 14. You know how

51:39

hard it is? Go score 35. Great,

51:41

you know, so like, I just think their defense

51:43

is gonna take a lot of pressure off like,

51:46

oh my gosh, I gotta go score 35 points

51:48

for us out of any chance of

51:50

winning. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? So. Then,

51:53

how do you think, how JJ McCarthy

51:55

feels, right? Because here's what happens. The

51:58

entire time that all. of this news of

52:00

everybody trying to trade up for J.J.

52:02

McCarthy has been going on, I've been trying to

52:04

make it make sense. And I

52:07

trust you so much, I

52:09

start to feel like I'm wrong. Right,

52:11

because, and, but you're never talking

52:13

about, like you're never saying

52:15

this is where these guys are going to

52:17

be drafted. You always show me, if

52:20

they're drafted there, here's why. Right,

52:22

this is their trade or their

52:24

feeling. And so, but when

52:27

you, when we start to hear all these rumors,

52:29

are things, how do you think this happened?

52:32

Are you leaning towards things or

52:34

just correcting themselves on draft night?

52:37

Or people truly saw it how you did,

52:39

where you say, yes, J.J. McCarthy is the

52:42

top 15 talent, but

52:44

he may go early because of the way people

52:46

view court. I think it's also information, you know,

52:49

like if you're in Minnesota and you're one of

52:51

those teams that was potentially trying to get up,

52:54

well, maybe you had got wind that

52:56

like, nobody's going to take them. Well,

52:58

then you don't have to be overly aggressive. And

53:01

you know that, hey, Tennessee,

53:04

like, listen, if the

53:06

Raiders or the Broncos call you, we'll

53:09

give you more. You know, so it's like, No, they call

53:11

them, hey, this is what we got. And

53:14

we got, we got, we got the 12th pick. Well, we'll

53:16

give you the 11th and the 23rd. So I think it's

53:18

a little bit of an information thing as well. I

53:21

also think, and I had heard word

53:24

of this a little bit here today that like

53:26

Minnesota was not going to

53:28

be overly aggressive to go get up in

53:30

McCarthy. Unless

53:32

like, if JJ had

53:34

gone six, they weren't going to

53:36

overspend to try to go get in that five. They were

53:39

going to be willing to take Michael Pennicks

53:41

at 11. I think that was

53:43

a little bit like Michael Pennicks had

53:45

had risen just as much as JJ

53:47

had. Yeah. Now you put yourself in

53:49

a position, we'll see what Atlanta does.

53:54

And, you know, I

53:57

think we're a little behind and Fred just

53:59

said, Wow. So I'm nervous.

54:03

It's got to be amazing. Wow.

54:06

Holy hell. The

54:10

Falcons pick Michael Phoenix.

54:13

And A. Wow. Oh

54:18

my God. Bro, are you serious? They're

54:21

getting interested. Coach. Coach Morris

54:23

first pick. Here's the thing though. Bro,

54:25

they just gave Kirk a buck 60. And

54:28

so now you think JJ Minnesota 24. What

54:31

are what are the Raiders going to do? And

54:33

if you give Kurt you gave Kirk a

54:35

buck 60 for four years. You're

54:37

expecting him to play two to three of

54:40

those years by the time Michael Phoenix plays

54:42

he's 27. What?

54:45

What's the thought? The

54:48

quarterback guys here. I know. I

54:53

like Penix's game. I do. He is Luca

54:55

Donchez to me like long-range shooter. Dude, I

54:58

mean this throws ridiculous, but I mean

55:01

he's 24 years old. You

55:03

just gave Kirk a gajillion dollars. Wow.

55:07

Holy smoke. You trade Kirk? No,

55:10

you can't. Your dead cap will be outrageous.

55:12

And the other piece of it is too. No,

55:15

you have. Hold on. Hold on. Hold on.

55:17

This is also me just being a ridiculous

55:19

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55:53

Who's there? Who's their general manager? Fonno.

55:57

Where'd he come from? New Orleans. Who's got the 12th

55:59

pick of the draft? The

56:03

Broncos, Sean Payton, New Orleans. How

56:08

did your mind work like that? Because

56:11

this doesn't make a ton of sense. Does

56:14

the NFL work like the NBA? Can you train

56:16

a draft they pick? Oh yeah,

56:18

yeah. He's a genius. Because here's what

56:20

happened. Here it happens. The Broncos say

56:23

pick him. Pick him. You have

56:25

the conversation. The Broncos says pick him. And Atlanta

56:27

Falcons say, well, we want this

56:29

guy at 12. Right. They picked

56:32

that guy at 12. They trade that. And

56:34

you also get an asset. Because that doesn't make a

56:36

ton of sense. It doesn't make any sense. That's crazy

56:38

how fast your mind works. But the

56:40

Broncos, the Broncos could get him at 12. They

56:43

couldn't move up. They talked about

56:45

moving up, right? Because what, Minnesota,

56:48

6th area, 11th area, and you don't know

56:50

what the Raiders are going to do. The Raiders

56:52

are 13, but they could jump. Yeah,

56:54

they could jump. So

56:57

maybe it's one of those things where the

56:59

trade necessarily doesn't happen. You

57:01

don't figure out the

57:04

compensation right away. But it's similar

57:06

to what happened with Eli and

57:09

Philip. Take him. We'll

57:11

figure it out afterwards type of

57:13

thing. Yeah. They can still get

57:15

their guy. It doesn't make any sense, man. Especially

57:17

after the cousin trade. It's 24.

57:20

Or there. So

57:22

because I don't know how to work Hulu, French

57:25

face, Fred goes, wow. Wow. Right?

57:28

Because he's watching on his phone. Wow.

57:31

Alicia's over there like. But

57:37

Atlanta can go back and get their guy. I think

57:39

Atlanta needs to go deeper. Wrong

57:44

complaint. Yeah.

57:48

Powers. I

57:50

mean, I would say that one. If you're if you're the

57:52

Vikings, this is panic mode. Because

57:55

you got to think, do the Raiders try to get up

57:57

ahead of you and get McCarthy? Because

58:00

you know the Jets aren't picking a quarterback. No. No,

58:03

I think the only thing, again,

58:05

I think that would be one of those

58:07

conversations if you're in Minnesota, you call the

58:09

Jets and say, hey, you call us

58:11

with the best offer that you get from somebody and we'll

58:13

beat it, type of thing. Could

58:16

this have been, you mentioned the

58:18

Broncos in that whole scenario. Could

58:21

this have been a piece of the

58:23

Kirk Cousins Minnesota thing too? Or

58:25

no? Could they have been... In regards to what? To

58:28

send a pick to Minnesota to do a swap

58:30

with Minnesota's on the clock. Sure. Potentially

58:33

just moving back. Yeah, sure. They're doing

58:35

the same thing with the Broncos. Right. Right.

58:39

The relationship. Right. But

58:41

maybe in that conversation with Kirk, and this is

58:43

just, there is kind of a way out above

58:45

the ceiling. But even in the conversation

58:47

when they sent Kirk there, and they made that

58:50

happen, maybe they said, look, this

58:52

is an insurance policy for us. If you made this

58:54

move, make it happen. But they didn't send Kirk there.

58:56

Kirk chose there. That's true.

58:59

That's right. I just saw on the

59:01

screen that Peninsett tore his right ACL twice and

59:03

boasted shoulders in this motion. Yeah, she got four

59:06

seizing ending injuries. That's why he's 24, right? But

59:09

that's what I'm saying. Like, that has to be an

59:11

issue to make him your friend. We're almost doing that.

59:13

We're almost doing that. The errors look scary, just like

59:15

that. Man. You know how fast he's going

59:17

to learn? Who's there three? Who's there three receiving?

59:20

King and Allen, Inwood, Warren, and room. And

59:23

Caleb is about to go crazy. Cole Comand, DeAndre

59:25

Swift. Caleb is about to go

59:27

crazy. Yeah, man. Their general manager has crushed

59:29

it. You know what else, though, Dan? I

59:33

don't think the world moves

59:35

in this coincidental over way.

59:38

Caleb Williams had a throwing session with

59:40

DJ Moore, King and Allen, and Roma

59:42

Doomsday. For real? Yeah, last

59:45

week. Right? And

59:47

they fly out here together, too? Yeah, and

59:49

listen. Things

59:51

happen. Yeah. Things like

59:53

that don't happen. Trade. Oh,

59:57

Minnesota. There you go. Minnesota

1:00:00

said, hey, Minnesota said, hell, we're

1:00:02

not. So

1:00:05

this is McCarthy. Yeah,

1:00:07

this is McCarthy. This is, this

1:00:09

is, we have to beat, because also

1:00:12

too, at this point, if

1:00:14

you're Minnesota, you're like, you have

1:00:16

to beat the Raiders. And

1:00:18

we don't know if Denver and Atlanta

1:00:21

have this thing that Dan is supposedly,

1:00:25

you know, offering up to the world.

1:00:27

So Minnesota takes McCarthy, man.

1:00:29

Does the, do the Raiders take Bo Nix

1:00:32

then, or do the Broncos take Bo Nix?

1:00:35

And then the Raiders. And now the Raiders are

1:00:37

stuck out. Hung out to dry, man. But I

1:00:39

think the Raiders had settled on the only, they

1:00:42

were only moving up, they could get two or three. Correct,

1:00:44

they only wanted to go, really go get Jaden. They only

1:00:46

wanted to get Jaden, right? So if you couldn't get them,

1:00:48

it was, we'll wait and

1:00:51

stay where we are, and

1:00:53

then see who falls. And now you're in a

1:00:55

position where nobody falls. Wow,

1:01:00

Rome is talented. Rome is very talented. Man,

1:01:02

think about it. Dan loves Rome. Yeah, Rome

1:01:04

is DeAndre Hopkins to me. His

1:01:06

catch radius is amazing. You don't ever

1:01:08

get open, he just catches everything. What

1:01:10

offense are you most looking forward to

1:01:12

seeing this year? The New Bears offense,

1:01:15

with those guys, with the Texans after

1:01:17

they added this. It's not even close.

1:01:19

Texans. Yeah, stop it. I

1:01:22

don't want to hear this. Freddie T, Freddie

1:01:24

T, Freddie T. Texans, they kept down on

1:01:26

Houston. They have seen the

1:01:28

clip on me, because you're him

1:01:30

and Micah. It's awesome. Because when we did

1:01:33

CJ, I called Dan. When I saw Dan

1:01:35

at work, I said, Dan, there's some stuff

1:01:38

on this show that you're going to. Nerd out of

1:01:40

it. That you're going to nerd out about. He loves

1:01:42

CJ. Right. I used to. So

1:01:44

if we're going, who is it? Diggs,

1:01:47

Miki. Nico Coleman. Nico Dell,

1:01:50

Tank Dell. Yeah. Nico

1:01:53

Coleman. Joe Nixon.

1:01:56

Nixon. No, no, no, no. Their

1:01:58

four is really. The top four

1:02:00

is like, Metchee's probably the four, Noah

1:02:03

Brown's their five, probably. Okay, he's the five. And

1:02:06

in Chicago you have Roam, who was

1:02:08

just drafted. Roam, Keenan, DJ, Cole

1:02:10

Comette. Cole Comette, Swiss Hook and Swift. Crazy,

1:02:14

that's the thing though, like I hear Chicago and

1:02:16

I'm like, man, that's tough. I

1:02:19

hear Houston and I'm like, we

1:02:22

gotta get a different game plan. But,

1:02:24

but. Because the thing we know about Houston

1:02:26

is, we know their quarterbacks. Right,

1:02:29

right, right. And then

1:02:31

their defense is, you know, F.T.

1:02:33

South. Caleb was CJ? That

1:02:37

is not easy. I think

1:02:39

we... No way to say Caleb at this level, but Caleb was CJ?

1:02:41

I think it's only easy because

1:02:45

we saw CJ quickly

1:02:47

become not one of the

1:02:49

better, one of the best quarterbacks

1:02:52

in the league. Like the only

1:02:54

quarterbacks you're speaking of that

1:02:56

we say are ahead of

1:02:58

CJ Stroud are some of

1:03:00

these transcendently talented humans. You're

1:03:02

talking four or five. Oh, I'm like,

1:03:05

okay. If CJ doesn't miss that game,

1:03:08

and if Lamar doesn't heat up in the last three

1:03:10

games, he was heavy in a

1:03:12

MVP conversation. Oh, for sure. You know

1:03:14

what I'm saying? So he's done some

1:03:16

shit stuff that many rookies

1:03:18

have never done. It's ours, though, it's not. It's

1:03:20

our life. I forget what it was. But the

1:03:23

answer here, I'm trying to be hospitable. My guy,

1:03:25

you know what I'm saying. Yeah, they're all fudge

1:03:27

in there. Yeah, you know what I'm talking about.

1:03:29

I try not to, man. I mean, I'm not

1:03:31

perfect, but I'm surprisingly... I'm sure he crosses a

1:03:33

couple of the boys across the game. Sometimes I

1:03:36

get after my kids. I

1:03:38

told my son two weeks ago, I

1:03:43

got one soon, it was starting to get a little loose with

1:03:45

his mouth. He's a good kid in my life. I

1:03:47

think he tried to prove himself too much. We're

1:03:50

talking about something. My wife came

1:03:52

home and he said the words.

1:03:55

We're talking about a situation. He went to my wife and

1:03:57

said, you didn't do anything. Buddy,

1:04:01

I almost killed the kid. How

1:04:04

old is he? Do you?

1:04:06

Is that too young to see some situational,

1:04:09

like, situation? No, I don't think so.

1:04:11

Like, I don't. They're smart kids. They're

1:04:13

sharp kids. They're aware. They're exposed

1:04:15

to stuff nowadays. Like, I think they

1:04:17

know what's going on. We

1:04:20

were at the beach last week. He was playing with a bunch of his

1:04:22

friends. We were all playing. You capture the flag? Yeah.

1:04:25

So we were playing. I'm,

1:04:27

like, running around with these kids. I'm tired.

1:04:31

Excuse my language here, but, like, him

1:04:34

and his friends were busted on me. I'm like, yo,

1:04:36

fellas, I'm dead. And I was like, I don't want

1:04:38

to play another game. Do you want to play another game? And he looked at me

1:04:40

and he said, don't be a P-U. No!

1:04:43

My son said that to me. I said, what'd you just say to me? No!

1:04:46

He looked at me, and

1:04:48

I was like, you're lucky your friends are here right now. I

1:04:51

was laughing at the time. And

1:04:54

I was like, you don't even know what that

1:04:56

is. You never seen one. And

1:04:59

he goes, what? And I said the words

1:05:01

to him. He goes, I don't know what

1:05:03

that means. I said, don't say that. That's

1:05:05

what it was. My son, he's been, um,

1:05:07

he plays this game on, uh, and then

1:05:09

he has, like, this Discord chat that's

1:05:11

live in the background. And he puts it on

1:05:13

speaker. Everybody on that chat

1:05:16

curses. Yeah. And when Braylon, he attempt

1:05:18

to curse him, like, I

1:05:20

look at him. Then I go, bro, what

1:05:22

are you doing? It's those guys that it's not me.

1:05:24

But I hear him drop some bombs every now and

1:05:27

then. I give him a pass. But in front of

1:05:29

his buddies, I've started to check him right there in

1:05:31

that spot. Right, yeah, yeah. You ain't allowed to beat

1:05:33

kids no more. You're not

1:05:35

allowed to spank kids. What do you call it,

1:05:38

gents-o-parenting? Yeah, you're not allowed to, uh, beat, beat

1:05:40

is an old spank, because beat

1:05:42

means something. You're not allowed to pop. You're

1:05:45

not allowed to, Dan, in my house, we call it a

1:05:47

pow-pow. You want to

1:05:49

pow-pow? And so it sounds, it

1:05:51

sounds cool right there. It sounds nice and pleasant.

1:05:54

You want to pow-pow? Because you get your ass

1:05:56

whooped in his house. In my house, this, this.

1:05:59

Grab. that area right there. I remember my

1:06:01

buddy's dad. The Vulcan death grip. But

1:06:04

my dad did that. My buddy's dad did that to me

1:06:06

one time. I thought I was gonna die on the spot.

1:06:09

I was like so scared of him after that so when

1:06:11

they're mouthing off I'll grab him like that.

1:06:14

I saw it on space balls. That's how

1:06:16

you put people to sleep. Yeah don't go

1:06:18

to sleep. That just hurts. For

1:06:20

me it just gives me a freaking headache because

1:06:22

my trap's tight. Some pressure pointing. I had friggin...

1:06:27

If they didn't call this Viking

1:06:29

fit. Oh he's like, you got it right. This is McCarthy.

1:06:31

This is crazy. You called that 30 minutes ago. No it's 1000% J.J.

1:06:33

McCarthy. I

1:06:38

mean that's who they

1:06:40

wanted, May or him. I

1:06:43

think he fits a lot of what Kurt

1:06:45

did and I think sometimes you become so

1:06:47

comfortable with familiarity. Yeah.

1:06:50

Right? It's... we don't

1:06:52

actually... and if I'm Kevin O'Connell I don't

1:06:54

need some of the things that Drake may

1:06:56

might be able to do. Right. But I

1:06:58

need the things I've seen J.J. McCarthy do.

1:07:00

McCarthy is... his comp to me was Kurt

1:07:02

Cousins. Yeah it makes it easy. He'll

1:07:05

step in right away and play good. But I also

1:07:07

asked him though, okay. You

1:07:10

know we see like a Kurt Cousins back end

1:07:12

of his career who he's become. Would

1:07:14

you draft Kurt Cousins in the top five

1:07:16

at the time? So now it's like would

1:07:18

you draft Kurt Cousins in the top ten

1:07:21

if you knew he'd become this quarterback? This

1:07:23

quarterback also has one playoff game. Right. Yeah.

1:07:25

Right? This quarterback has had... He's folded in

1:07:27

the playoffs. Yeah. Good regular season, folding the

1:07:30

playoffs. So do

1:07:32

you think that Harbaugh amped him up,

1:07:34

helped him? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. His

1:07:37

Harbaugh is respected. Harbaugh is highly

1:07:39

thought of. Yeah. He's even at his

1:07:42

pro day. He talked about how good

1:07:44

he was as a quarterback. Best throwing

1:07:46

day he's ever seen. Best pro day he's ever been. I

1:07:49

mean you think teams are hearing that. Yeah. I mean

1:07:51

with the respect that father's heart was on. So we'll

1:07:55

see. No.

1:07:58

It says team for tax. It'll

1:08:00

be interesting the next pick.

1:08:03

What do the Jets do? They go O-line for-

1:08:05

Can't for a good state, did they go Brock

1:08:07

Bowers? I think that's interesting. But

1:08:10

honestly, 12 and 13 are gonna

1:08:12

tell the tale of the rest

1:08:14

of the draft. Because

1:08:18

if the

1:08:20

Raiders don't get a first round quarterback,

1:08:22

is Gardner-Minchu their starting quarterback? They'd have no

1:08:25

other choice. You show me? Like

1:08:27

that's the position. Brock Bowers

1:08:29

is a monster. I

1:08:31

love Brock Bowers. He's also got

1:08:34

very bad mil at home. Who's

1:08:36

remaining? What

1:08:38

quarterback is remaining? He got

1:08:40

old fans? Yeah, they might be. Don't make it.

1:08:51

That's crazy. He

1:08:56

knew that. Yeah, that's crazy. It's

1:08:58

an extreme need. It's easier. I

1:09:01

understand, but to say that shit a

1:09:03

half an hour ago was wild. Yeah.

1:09:06

Yeah, that's why they understand. I'm not

1:09:08

just a pretty face, Chamin. You're

1:09:10

a beautiful man. No big deal. Dude,

1:09:13

you know what's crazy? I sent out a tweet. Yeah.

1:09:18

Probably like mid-October during

1:09:20

the Michigan game. I said JJ McCarthy is gonna

1:09:22

look amazing as a Viking next year. I

1:09:25

gotta find out. Yeah, go find it. If you typed

1:09:27

it, it'll come up. Unless you

1:09:30

put a lot of JJ McCarthy stuff out. Tweets.

1:09:34

Dan be tweeted. He does a

1:09:38

lot of videos. Let me show you shit.

1:09:40

I gotta see where the camera at. It should

1:09:43

pop up, Dan. I gotta show Dan what athletes

1:09:45

can do. Yeah, here it is. Now

1:09:47

you gotta just retweet it. Dan,

1:09:52

he's about to do your November 11th. You got me? I

1:09:54

got you. You got me, KK. Let me

1:09:56

go over here so Dan can see what athletes can do.

1:10:00

So what

1:10:02

was it, Dan? You can't grab your

1:10:04

ankle. So you know you got to

1:10:06

grab an ankle and then stand up.

1:10:08

Hold it the other way. Hold on.

1:10:10

So you can't grab one ankle. Now

1:10:12

you got to grab one ankle. Put your other foot

1:10:15

up here. Yep, and stand up. Hold

1:10:18

on, wait, wait. No, your foot touched the ground. Huh?

1:10:21

You can't jump. You

1:10:23

can't jump? No, your foot touched

1:10:25

the ground, Jason Momoa. I

1:10:31

look, I look, what's Aquabad's name?

1:10:34

Jason Momoa. That's what people always tell

1:10:36

me that look like Jason Momoa. No,

1:10:38

you don't. You

1:10:42

don't. You grab you with that goddamn Aquabad

1:10:44

foot on. So grab

1:10:46

this ankle and stand up

1:10:48

on the other leg. Put this foot on the ground.

1:10:51

Ugh. Ha ha ha ha

1:10:53

ha. Ugh. Come on.

1:10:56

So I can't... You

1:10:58

talked all that stuff. I know and I was about to

1:11:00

do it. I did it one time at the house, but

1:11:02

I was drinking. So maybe my knees were better. So

1:11:06

grab this foot. Yeah. Okay,

1:11:08

put this back. I don't think people who have

1:11:11

wieners can do it. Put this foot on the

1:11:13

ground. And now stand up. Without

1:11:16

this foot touching the ground. Correct. Without

1:11:18

anything touching the ground but that foot. Yeah.

1:11:22

You can do it. I should have left you still. Much

1:11:24

money. You sound like me with

1:11:26

your costume. Bro,

1:11:28

that should have kicked me that hard. Got that, man.

1:11:31

One more time. You can't do it. You're not even

1:11:33

close to doing it. Yeah, you haven't even... Ryan.

1:11:36

I'm not going to get on my knees for no min. So it don't matter. Shit.

1:11:40

Okay. Put

1:11:43

this foot on the ground. You ask that question

1:11:45

every time. Yes. Yup.

1:11:49

Oh my... Help me. Eee!

1:11:52

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Ha ha ha

1:11:54

ha ha ha. Ugh. Ugh.

1:11:58

You stupid, man. I didn't

1:12:00

think it was gonna happen. That's been almost everything.

1:12:02

Bro, the only people I've seen do it are

1:12:04

my wife and my daughter. So

1:12:07

if you got golden heads, this can't be

1:12:09

done. I don't think it's

1:12:11

for you. Unless you're like

1:12:14

a worst jockey. Like a gymnast or some

1:12:16

shit. Yeah. I'm pretty sure it's not a testicle

1:12:19

thing. It's

1:12:22

a testicle thing. Hold on, let

1:12:24

me lose my hamstring one time. Dio.

1:12:26

Yeah. One more time. And I didn't

1:12:29

know you got your start doing

1:12:31

something on good morning football, bro. Yeah.

1:12:34

Tell me about how that

1:12:36

happened. Because

1:12:38

I know you would do the stuff at the house. Yeah.

1:12:40

On Twitter. How did the good

1:12:43

morning football thing come about? Can

1:12:45

I test my knees? Sure.

1:12:49

He's been terrible the entire time for

1:12:51

it. Right. This guy, you got an

1:12:53

ACL brace? That's what

1:12:55

he needs. But he ain't even close. So

1:13:01

I can test my knees. Sure. You're

1:13:08

not even close. Yep.

1:13:11

Gotta protect right, Regent. Yeah,

1:13:13

that's the right way to protect. Gotta protect Rogers. Yeah,

1:13:15

man. I started doing a couple

1:13:18

of breakdowns on social media, RC, posting

1:13:21

them on Twitter, kind of very similar to what I

1:13:23

still do now. And

1:13:25

Shrager DM'd me on Twitter and said,

1:13:27

yo, would you come and

1:13:29

do this on television? On

1:13:32

live TV? I said, absolutely. So

1:13:34

I would just drive up to

1:13:36

the good morning football studio in

1:13:38

Manhattan. And

1:13:40

the first one we did, it was a

1:13:43

tele-shirtie tape. It wasn't a

1:13:45

touchscreen. I don't think they had the touchscreen

1:13:48

capabilities back then. Bro, you were just pointing

1:13:50

at people. Yeah. That's what it was,

1:13:52

essentially. Just slowed down video pointing at people. And then it

1:13:54

went from there, and it went good the first time. And

1:13:56

he was like, would you come back and do it again?

1:13:58

I'm like, for sure. So I did. that probably

1:14:00

like eight times but I got another

1:14:02

message late from him like I think

1:14:06

the morning of Memorial Day we're having a big

1:14:08

Memorial Day party at our family Broncos pick us

1:14:10

in and he's

1:14:12

like can you come to do you know this

1:14:14

tomorrow or tape on this tomorrow and I said

1:14:17

yeah I had to spend eight hours that day

1:14:19

because like back then I had

1:14:21

to tell them like hey eight seconds into the

1:14:24

video I need you to freeze it here and

1:14:27

what you're gonna do is like circle this guy

1:14:29

and as you circle this guy get an arrow

1:14:31

from that guy and then let it play for

1:14:33

three seconds and freeze it for 14 seconds as

1:14:36

you do this so it took so long to

1:14:38

create the videos six years ago

1:14:40

or so you know so that was the first time I was on

1:14:42

TV which did you

1:14:44

start the next year ESPN I started

1:14:46

that that fall at ESPN okay yeah

1:14:49

yeah that was that was like a

1:14:52

spring of 18 I started fall of 18 at

1:14:54

ESPN that suit was so bad it looks like

1:14:56

Drake Mays right yeah that was that

1:14:59

was 240 dance suit on 200

1:15:01

pound dance yeah yeah the suits

1:15:03

have definitely tightened up yeah you

1:15:05

guys was there you

1:15:07

surprised where you're at right now national TV doing

1:15:10

what you're doing totally man I

1:15:12

say this all the time like I have no business

1:15:14

being here like I sometimes

1:15:16

it's a problem though like you know

1:15:18

sometimes you I lose sight of it you

1:15:21

know and I forget like oh I'm

1:15:23

on TV I can't just say anything

1:15:25

or I can't just tweet out anything

1:15:27

or you know so it's like I

1:15:29

don't view myself in that way you know I

1:15:32

just don't view myself that way but I try to be

1:15:34

a little bit more aware of it but Denver's

1:15:36

gotta take bone there they have no other much

1:15:39

this is yeah I

1:15:42

gotta be very aware in my

1:15:44

job on a daily basis on

1:15:47

ESPN who's very much

1:15:49

so in a relationship with the NFL of

1:15:52

how I talk about quarterbacks I

1:15:54

was a back-up quarterback for 12 years so like

1:15:57

I don't think it does me

1:15:59

or the league or it's quarterbacks

1:16:02

or ESPN, any good to just go

1:16:04

on bash quarterbacks. This

1:16:06

guy sucks. Fans always be like,

1:16:09

you're such a quarterback coddler. Me

1:16:12

being a backup quarterback, I don't want the clout

1:16:14

to go on and tell everybody that this dude

1:16:16

sucked. That serves nothing,

1:16:18

you know what I'm saying? So

1:16:21

I just have to be, but I also have to do my

1:16:23

job and say if I got

1:16:25

played bad or did that, I try to

1:16:27

be very conscious of like, okay, why did

1:16:29

the bad play happen rather than he sucks,

1:16:31

you know? And so I try to be

1:16:33

very conscious of that just because I'm very

1:16:35

aware of what I was as a player.

1:16:38

Yeah, I would have never, never,

1:16:42

I mean, dude, I was at an event this morning

1:16:45

and Jerome Bettis came

1:16:47

up to me. It was like, man,

1:16:49

I love watching you, you're so, and

1:16:51

I'm like. You're

1:16:56

Jerome Bettis. I'm Jerome watching you. You're

1:17:00

Jerome Bettis, you know? And

1:17:02

it's just, those moments are

1:17:04

always just so outrageous to me. They're so

1:17:06

outrageous to me. When

1:17:11

you see guys and they say stuff to me, you're like, yo,

1:17:14

you're in the whole thing.

1:17:16

You're a legend. I got

1:17:19

with that tournament, I'm

1:17:22

an honorary stealer now.

1:17:25

Stealer? Yeah, I'm an honorary stealer with

1:17:28

RC and Joy Porter. He's

1:17:31

family. So now Lamar

1:17:33

Woodley, Wood was at the

1:17:35

comedy show the other night. I'm

1:17:38

cool with C-Ham, Foot, Pot,

1:17:40

all the Steelers, right? So

1:17:44

I say, Dan, I might have been drinking

1:17:46

and I met Jerome Bettis. And

1:17:49

Jerome, a little bigger now than he used

1:17:51

to be. I knew you were gonna say

1:17:53

something stupid. What did you say to him?

1:17:55

So I said, and

1:17:58

Peezy Porter went up the. doing

1:18:00

up the bus and then

1:18:02

everybody calls him Bussy. So I'm just still

1:18:04

nicknamed. So I'm still nicknamed. So he called you Dio.

1:18:07

Now you Dio to me because I just heard Ryan

1:18:09

say it. So he

1:18:11

said, Bussy, what's up? And I've

1:18:13

been drinking. And I said,

1:18:15

damn, Bussy, you're a double decker now.

1:18:18

Oh my

1:18:21

gosh. How?

1:18:24

Damn, it was a joke.

1:18:29

You said you wanted to bust me because you

1:18:32

sure Chicago went. Yeah, it was just a joke.

1:18:34

There's a little lady on top with a microphone

1:18:37

compared to what I watched him do on the

1:18:39

field. I said, Bussy, you're a double decker now.

1:18:41

And he didn't smile. Ma? Who

1:18:44

know the name, guys? Joe O. And Jerome Betis don't like

1:18:46

it. Why don't the name people like it? Well, he came

1:18:48

back to you. He

1:18:50

literally looked at me and

1:18:53

started another conversation. I would have done for

1:18:55

Jerome. But

1:18:58

I've seen Bussy since then. He come in.

1:19:00

He's cool with it. Yeah, we

1:19:02

saw him at the golf tournament. I thought he looked good.

1:19:05

He's smaller now than he was when he played. Wow.

1:19:11

He was a double decker when I saw him

1:19:13

at the golf tournament. That guy's ridiculous. So Sean

1:19:15

Payton. Gotta be Bo next to you. He's never

1:19:18

drafted a quarterback in the first two rounds. Right.

1:19:21

But the sense of urgency to go after Nick. What

1:19:23

do you think is a good pick for the Broncos?

1:19:26

12 is high for Bo Nicks, in my opinion.

1:19:28

But I do. There are elements of

1:19:30

him that I like. Bo Nicks, yeah.

1:19:33

There are elements of it. He's not. I think

1:19:36

most of America hears Bo Nicks. And they think

1:19:38

of the young dude that ran around at Auburn.

1:19:40

It was like, yes. You

1:19:42

know, like every play had to be this

1:19:44

throw up behind my back touchdown. Oh, my

1:19:46

gosh, type of thing. He's not that anymore.

1:19:48

He's way more developed. He's way more refined.

1:19:51

He's way cleaner. You

1:19:54

know, I

1:19:56

think like the best case scenario is

1:19:58

he becomes like Andy Dalton. He's been

1:20:00

a good starting quarterback for a while. For

1:20:02

a long time. For a long time, yeah.

1:20:04

You know, he's really smart.

1:20:06

I think he's got really good ball

1:20:08

placement on short throws. Super athletic, can

1:20:10

make plays down the field, but

1:20:12

he's way more under control. Yeah, like you're

1:20:15

seeing highlights now of him just running around.

1:20:17

This is literally what people

1:20:19

I think believe bone-niks

1:20:21

is. And he's still

1:20:24

gifted like this. He just doesn't make

1:20:26

the bone-headed mistakes like it. How

1:20:29

do you assess growth? Yeah.

1:20:32

You talked about it with Jaden. Yeah.

1:20:34

Right? Jaden had, he looked like he

1:20:36

had that Heisman potential as a freshman. It

1:20:40

kind of leveled off in the middle of his career.

1:20:42

Now he wins the Heisman as a

1:20:44

fifth year player as opposed

1:20:46

to seeing a guy like Caleb who

1:20:48

was a stud from the first time

1:20:50

you saw him, but never necessarily fix

1:20:52

some of the problems that he had.

1:20:54

Right. Had young. Well, Nick, there has

1:20:56

to be credit given for where

1:20:59

he came from at Auburn to where he finishes

1:21:01

at Oregon. He's very much

1:21:03

of a different player. Maturity. And then I

1:21:05

think a little bit too, I see there

1:21:07

is the benefit for some of these guys

1:21:09

of like, the

1:21:11

COVID year ends

1:21:13

up giving them an extra year of college in many

1:21:16

ways, an extra year of development, an extra year of

1:21:18

growth. And I think he took

1:21:20

advantage of it. Pennix took advantage of it.

1:21:22

Jaden took advantage of it. And

1:21:24

like, there's something to be

1:21:26

said for that for sure. So what

1:21:28

about the different conferences and the level

1:21:31

of competition? Auburn, SEC,

1:21:33

then he goes to Oregon. That's the

1:21:35

Pac-12. A little bit more fun

1:21:37

and gun. Yeah. A little softer defenses. Sure.

1:21:39

You don't have the LSU defenses or the

1:21:41

Bama's or the Georgia's. Did that

1:21:43

help him in his stock in

1:21:46

this draft? Yeah, I think so. I mean, it

1:21:48

certainly helped him go play, you

1:21:50

know, at a more consistent level.

1:21:52

You know, like, dude, I can't imagine how hard it

1:21:54

is to go to the SEC and play as a

1:21:56

young kid at quarterback, especially at Auburn when you're not,

1:21:59

you know, pumping out. out skill players in the perimeter.

1:22:02

Right, you know, so yeah, I think going

1:22:04

to the Pac-12 and getting to a different

1:22:06

offense and having a little bit more talent

1:22:09

around, like it helped him become a different

1:22:11

style of quarterback. So Dan, right now, man,

1:22:13

you know, I ask

1:22:16

you to be here, one, because I wanted people

1:22:18

to hear some of your personal story, that was

1:22:20

most important to me, but nobody knows quarterbacks and

1:22:22

studies them the way you do. When you look

1:22:25

at the way, all, now this is six quarterbacks,

1:22:27

bro, by 12. Yeah. That's

1:22:29

a historic run on the

1:22:31

quarterbacks. When you look at this draft,

1:22:34

what's your overall thought about what stands

1:22:36

out the most? Caleb's in a great

1:22:38

situation because of how solid Chicago's football

1:22:40

team is. I think Jaden's in a

1:22:43

good place because of the skill talent.

1:22:45

They've got to get a better offensive line, and the defense is

1:22:47

going to have to play a lot better. I think the most

1:22:50

interesting part of that connection, Cliff Kingsbury

1:22:52

and how he's different than he was

1:22:54

with Kyler Murray. If he tries to

1:22:56

do only the same stuff that he

1:22:58

did with Kyler, then you're setting

1:23:01

Jaden up to struggle more than

1:23:03

he should. Drake may go into New

1:23:05

England is really good only if,

1:23:07

only if, he does

1:23:09

not see the field in meaningful games till at least

1:23:11

2025. Ooh, why? Man.

1:23:15

No, that's a bad thing. They don't have a tight end.

1:23:17

Bro, that's a bad man. No, they do. They just took

1:23:20

Michael Mayer from Notre Dame last year. Sure did.

1:23:22

The second round. Bro, early in the second round.

1:23:24

Early second round. Brock Bowers is a bad man.

1:23:26

I know, but like, they went back. They

1:23:29

went best player on the board. Yeah, probably. They

1:23:31

went best player on the board. If you go

1:23:33

with Devante, then you got to tight end. Right.

1:23:36

It's going to be straight. They got two now.

1:23:38

What about his hair? Two. He's male pattern. They

1:23:40

took Michael Mayer from Notre Dame last year. You're

1:23:42

right. With the way the game has changed,

1:23:44

I think those tight ends. They become slot

1:23:46

receivers. That's what this is. No, this dude's

1:23:48

also special. This dude's everything. Yeah, he's a

1:23:51

blocker. You

1:23:53

say he can block? He can block big time. Yeah, he's

1:23:55

physical, dude. When I think of

1:23:57

receivers and block, like George Kittle always pops in

1:23:59

my mind. He does both. Bowers can

1:24:01

be a George Kittle type guy. Yes.

1:24:03

Oh, yeah. I think he's a better,

1:24:05

he's a more versatile passer. I think

1:24:07

you remember, it reminds me

1:24:09

a little bit about us, more physical, but

1:24:12

Chris Cooley. Yep. I played with Chris Cooley.

1:24:15

Yeah, that's when CP was there. Ported. Yeah. He

1:24:17

got a little more burst than Cooley. I was

1:24:19

going to say, like, what Drake made only matters

1:24:21

if he doesn't play in real games till 25.

1:24:24

Like, meaningful games, at least. He's

1:24:26

got to sit for at least a year on his mechanics.

1:24:30

And the Pennics one is still very odd to me,

1:24:32

if I'm being honest. Like, I don't

1:24:34

get that one. I got to see

1:24:36

the tie. And maybe they know something about Kirk's

1:24:38

Achilles now that, I don't know. Like, that one

1:24:40

makes no sense to me. And

1:24:44

then JJ in Minnesota, I would put JJ as

1:24:46

the front runner for offensive rookie of the year

1:24:48

in Minnesota. I just think it's the best place

1:24:50

to go by far. And then

1:24:52

over. Jaden

1:24:54

and Caleb. Yeah. Wow.

1:24:57

Their offensive line is top six in

1:25:00

the league. O'Connell's great. And their receivers

1:25:02

are number one in the league. Hendrickson's

1:25:04

a freak. Yeah. They got,

1:25:07

who did get from Green Bay? The

1:25:11

tailback. This year, they got Aaron Jones.

1:25:13

Aaron Jones. Like, they're loaded.

1:25:15

Yeah. And I think Knicks is in a good place.

1:25:18

I just don't know if it's going to be, you

1:25:20

know, like, Denver's not super talented

1:25:22

on the perimeter. They got Cortland. You

1:25:24

know? Yeah. What deal, man? I

1:25:27

appreciate your time, bro. I appreciate you opening up and sharing

1:25:29

with me. You know I love you, my dog. You got

1:25:31

me. Thank you. Yeah, I saw

1:25:33

you. You was on the verge, dog. You

1:25:35

farted, though. You see how I had patience

1:25:38

in the moment, though. You farted. I

1:25:40

love it, boy. Can I hold that sweater? You

1:25:43

ready? Showtime. On May

1:25:45

3, summer starts with the fall guy. What

1:25:47

are you doing later? Let's drink a spicy

1:25:50

margarita. Make some bad decisions. Yes. Audiences

1:25:53

are falling in love with the most

1:25:55

entertaining film of the year. Fall guy?

1:25:57

Fall guy? Posters sent. Be randomly

1:25:59

in England. Emily Blunt in the movie Critics Say

1:26:01

exists to make you happy. Do you want to

1:26:03

make out? No. Because I don't need to. That's

1:26:05

not what I'm into right now. What are you

1:26:07

into? Talking. Yeah. The

1:26:10

Fall Guy, only in theaters May 3rd. Rated PG-13.

1:26:14

No. They won't fit you. It's

1:26:16

one of those things, man, like you just never can

1:26:18

tell. Oh, what up though? Uh-oh. Yes,

1:26:21

sir. That's good. Uh-huh. Well, good wishes. Congrats, my

1:26:23

boy. Be careful now. Listen, listen, we can't get y'all

1:26:25

in the league. I'm gonna call them leek because

1:26:27

the chain tells me to call them leek. See

1:26:30

what I done with my dog? R.C. I think

1:26:32

he got you. Don't lie, he's clean. I

1:26:35

think he got you, bro. Okay, okay. Don't get

1:26:37

it. They're just cleaning the clean though. Okay, why

1:26:39

not? It's clean today. We got

1:26:41

to get it to Luis. And he got them ankles

1:26:43

lotion. Hold on, hold on. First

1:26:48

off, man, I'm happy for you. Congratulations. More than

1:26:50

anything, I'm proud of you. I got to meet

1:26:52

you going into your senior year. And

1:26:55

not a lot of people know that story. I

1:26:57

difficult that year for you that LSU

1:26:59

didn't offer you until late. You were headed

1:27:01

to Mississippi State. How good does

1:27:03

it feel for all of your hard work

1:27:06

to end off with you, you know, being a

1:27:08

top six pick to the New York Giants?

1:27:10

A big breather. I would say, you know,

1:27:12

I had to fight through a lot of, you know, obstacles.

1:27:14

I feel like I went through those obstacles for a reason.

1:27:17

If I would have never went through those obstacles, I probably wouldn't be

1:27:19

here today. Probably would have went to Mississippi State and we don't know

1:27:22

the outcome of that. But, you know, all the things

1:27:24

that I've been through in life, it led me to this day here. So

1:27:26

thankful to God that, you know, I got this opportunity

1:27:28

to be here today. You know, that's a

1:27:30

lot of people still waiting to get their name called. I'm happy

1:27:32

mine got selected. So, you know, blessed with a man

1:27:35

up above that. But what did you know?

1:27:37

Did you know anything? Did you know top 10? Did

1:27:39

you know top anything? Because that that shit got to

1:27:41

be stressful. We were sitting here watching you right on

1:27:43

TV when you got drafted. But that shit could have

1:27:45

been 20 minutes. That shit could have been

1:27:47

two hours. Right. You know, I kept hearing I'm not getting

1:27:49

past type 8. So anyway, they were

1:27:52

telling me anybody after four,

1:27:54

you know, you make them pay when you play them. So

1:27:57

it was just whoever passed me up after that. You

1:28:01

have an opportunity to almost

1:28:04

follow in another LSU

1:28:06

Tiger, one of your alum footsteps,

1:28:08

OBJ. You're headed to New York

1:28:11

City. How excited are you about

1:28:13

that opportunity? Very excited. You know, there's going to be

1:28:15

a lot of weight on my shoulders for sure, but

1:28:18

there's no weight that's never been on my shoulders my whole

1:28:20

life. So, you know, when I find, you

1:28:22

know, when I'm able to put my mind to something, you

1:28:24

know, I'm able to do it. So just hoping to be

1:28:26

the best teammate I could possibly be, you know, go to

1:28:28

that organization and be the best person, get in the community

1:28:31

and be a great athlete for them. You

1:28:33

know, I love to hear that, but I'm going to

1:28:35

talk about the real. Whenever I

1:28:37

get a chance to tell people why I

1:28:39

thought Malik Nabors was the best wide receiver

1:28:41

in the draft, it was about a

1:28:43

mentality, right? You know, like we're from the

1:28:45

boot, we see it differently. And there ain't

1:28:48

no winning and getting through adversity where we're

1:28:50

from without having some dog

1:28:52

in you. I remember seeing you run the

1:28:54

40 after having a year where I felt like you should have won the

1:28:56

50 after you let the call off and you said stop playing with me.

1:29:00

What is it about what you've been through

1:29:02

and how you feel about the game that

1:29:04

makes you approach it the way you do? I

1:29:06

would say, you know, because the game could have been ticking from me, you

1:29:08

know, early, you know, a lot of different

1:29:10

times. So when I'm out there on the field, it's

1:29:12

like the mentality that I have is

1:29:15

I'm going to fuck you over. Like when I

1:29:17

get the opportunity, I'm going to do it because,

1:29:19

you know, a person is going to do it to me. So if I

1:29:21

can do it to you before you do it to

1:29:23

me a hundred times on the field, before you do

1:29:26

it, I'm going to keep doing every time. Like I'm not going to stop. It

1:29:29

is what it is because that one time is going to happen to me. It's

1:29:31

going to be pushed and talk about more than anything. So

1:29:34

if I got the ups, I got the ups. I'm

1:29:37

hoping to have the ups every time. Bro,

1:29:39

are you ready for the market? New

1:29:41

York, New York. Like

1:29:43

Freddie T just talked about it. New York is

1:29:45

the biggest media market. Everything is up there. You're

1:29:48

going to be across the river from Ryan working

1:29:50

every day. Ryan be over there every day. Like,

1:29:52

are you ready for the market? I

1:29:54

love the boot. But it's not New

1:29:56

York. Yeah. Not New York. Are

1:29:59

you ready for that market? I got a nice

1:30:01

smile, so I got a nice smile,

1:30:03

so yeah, I'm ready. I'm ready. You

1:30:06

have two games a season where you get an

1:30:08

opportunity to play against your quarterback. Can

1:30:11

we get any early prediction, just something from smart? You

1:30:13

know, when we walk out there telling me and him,

1:30:15

since we're on different sides, you know, it's time to

1:30:17

talk shit now. You know, we didn't talk

1:30:19

shit with other people now, so it's time to talk

1:30:21

shit with each other. You know, having that guy, you

1:30:23

know, as a teammate, you know, he's a

1:30:25

great leader, a great person to be

1:30:27

around. You know, I probably want

1:30:29

to have the year I had without him, you know,

1:30:32

by him pushing me every day at practice, by him

1:30:34

waking me up in the morning to go watch film.

1:30:36

I'm having my back do it all, so just having

1:30:38

that guy in my corner, you know, it's been the

1:30:40

best. So, you know, going against him, it's

1:30:42

going to be fun. You know, we got a bet going for

1:30:44

rookie of the year. Whoever

1:30:47

loses got to pay, I think, it's

1:30:49

10,000 cash. Oh, boy. Yeah, it's

1:30:51

a big, big life. It's life. Did

1:30:54

y'all make that bet before the draft?

1:30:57

Yeah. You can only make that

1:30:59

bet when you know you're going top eight. Yeah. Because

1:31:03

10, you don't make that bet. You're like,

1:31:05

all of the draft. So,

1:31:07

when losers draw, are you

1:31:09

looking forward to the jersey swap? I mean, that's got to

1:31:11

be a big moment for you. Oh, it's going to be

1:31:13

a great moment. Having that LSU, you

1:31:16

know, that LSU legendary status when you're going

1:31:18

into the league and seeing your brother or

1:31:20

cause that you play with, y'all guys finally,

1:31:22

you know, accomplish your dreams. Right. Having

1:31:25

that brother two times a year on the game

1:31:27

day, you know, able to talk shit, able

1:31:29

to, you know, share a jersey swap. So, you know,

1:31:32

I'm so, you know, that jersey is going to mean

1:31:34

a lot to me and him. Yeah. It's

1:31:36

just different, you know, they, you know,

1:31:38

both of these guys went to Florida, you

1:31:41

know, Chance from Georgia, Freddie T. is from

1:31:43

Florida. So many of us

1:31:45

grow up wanting to play in

1:31:47

that stadium. And there's now

1:31:49

a lineage at your

1:31:51

position. There's a legacy at the

1:31:53

wide receiver position at LSU,

1:31:56

you know, Odell Beckham Jr.

1:31:58

and Jarvis Landry, they both win. for

1:32:00

a band had great in one season

1:32:02

had great professional careers. I

1:32:04

was Justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase may

1:32:07

be the best receiver in the league and Justin Jefferson

1:32:09

top three in Jamar Chase. You

1:32:11

have an opportunity along with Brian Thomas

1:32:14

to continue the legacy of

1:32:16

great wide receiver play in

1:32:18

the NFL. How important is it for you to

1:32:20

represent wide receiver type shit? Very important you know

1:32:22

I got that I got that tatted on me

1:32:24

and I mean I meant that when I got

1:32:27

it tatted on me with something that I started

1:32:29

in something that I wanted to finish you know

1:32:31

I wasn't leaving that school just because a new

1:32:33

coach came in or anything it was a legendary

1:32:35

you know thing that we had going on there

1:32:37

so if I got brought there into it I

1:32:40

was gonna wear it with an honor so just like I

1:32:42

wear those colors with honor you know there's wide receiver type

1:32:44

single mean a lot when you make it into the league

1:32:46

because they they hold it high with those guys you know

1:32:48

how they play so you know I know it's gonna be

1:32:51

a lot of my shoulders for that but I'm

1:32:53

like that. You have a tattoo that

1:32:55

says what? Wide receiver type shit. What

1:33:02

is it? Wide receiver type shit.

1:33:04

So anytime you see like

1:33:07

Justin and Jamar and all those

1:33:09

guys whenever they post anything it'd

1:33:11

be hashtag WRTS. That's

1:33:13

what they mean. Yeah and

1:33:16

you got a tattoo on here. Yeah y'all

1:33:18

real about the LSU stuff.

1:33:20

That shit real. I like

1:33:23

Florida. My boys is crazy.

1:33:25

And he just said he's

1:33:27

like that. I don't even

1:33:29

know if he know your

1:33:31

coach might be bumping that

1:33:34

in his headphones during

1:33:36

practice. Y'all got a real one. You

1:33:38

got a big body to be grateful

1:33:40

to coach Guev-Daybo. Oh yeah you

1:33:42

know I know he didn't turn a lot of great receivers. I'm

1:33:45

not gonna say average players into great but you

1:33:47

know receiving into great receivers so just having that

1:33:49

person you know he loves he likes my dog

1:33:51

mentality. He likes the way that I move around

1:33:53

you know I'm so you know he has a

1:33:55

great plan to give me the football to let

1:33:57

me show my skillset when I'm out there on the

1:33:59

field. the field. How

1:34:01

much that change you for? Yeah,

1:34:05

yeah. Yeah. Please tell us. I

1:34:10

know anybody get you. What

1:34:12

you know, it's crazy. A lot of people don't know

1:34:14

that this Cuban is actually from a New York jeweler.

1:34:18

So you already had a New York connect. We

1:34:21

have a glow real on that. You got

1:34:23

a Cuban or a curvy? A curvy. We

1:34:26

ain't got Cuban

1:34:28

Cuban. My last

1:34:30

thing for you, man. What is it

1:34:32

like to share this moment

1:34:35

with your family? It means a lot. You know,

1:34:37

we shared tears in this restaurant. You know, last

1:34:39

night I went around the table and

1:34:41

I spoke about, you know, all

1:34:43

the people that was here at the table was here for

1:34:45

a reason. Everybody that was sitting with me at the draft

1:34:48

or they got the opportunity to come with me here was for

1:34:50

a reason. So I shared a story that,

1:34:52

you know, a lot of a lot of them probably

1:34:54

thought I forgot or didn't know. So a lot of

1:34:56

key moments in my past that they have helped me

1:34:58

when I was a child. They helped my mother when

1:35:00

she didn't have, you know, they helped me when I

1:35:02

have school clothes to go to school. So it was

1:35:04

just the little things that mattered to me when I

1:35:06

was a kid that led to this moment. So the

1:35:09

little things that counted for me, rather

1:35:11

than the big things, because the small things is something

1:35:13

that they do, that it might

1:35:15

not seem like it's big, but it's a little thing

1:35:18

that brought me here today. So let's share the story

1:35:20

about, you know, why everybody was here at the table.

1:35:22

So to spend that night with them,

1:35:24

you know, they've been crying all week, crying all

1:35:26

month to hear my name. So I'm

1:35:28

just living it up with them. I couldn't be

1:35:30

happier for you, right? I love the way you play

1:35:32

the game, but more importantly, I love the way you

1:35:34

carry yourself as a young man. And

1:35:37

like the thing I just want to tell you

1:35:39

is everything that those people poured into you and

1:35:42

sacrificed make it worth it. Right? Ten

1:35:44

years from now, let those people look

1:35:46

at you and tell you about

1:35:49

the moment y'all shared last night, about how

1:35:51

much that meant to them and about how

1:35:53

much it means that you carried on that

1:35:56

legacy that you made sure you made them

1:35:58

right. Man, much love to you. I appreciate

1:36:00

you doing your thing. Thank you. Yes,

1:36:02

sir. Hey, call me to come to Miami.

1:36:04

Hey, wait, wait. Do not call me. I'm

1:36:06

right, bro. I'm going to Miami. You still

1:36:08

think you're ready? I'm ready, sir. I'm ready.

1:36:11

I'm ready for you. Don't call me. Don't

1:36:13

call me. I'm ready for you. What, man?

1:36:16

I love you. How

1:36:19

many years I had to hear, I'm

1:36:21

ready for you. Paris is off in

1:36:24

my life. You know what

1:36:26

I'm saying? I was just talking about

1:36:28

trash. You hear now, man. How

1:36:30

was that? What was the feeling like? It was a

1:36:32

lot of emotions, you know, but it was definitely a

1:36:35

blessing. You know, it

1:36:37

was a good

1:36:39

experience, you know, just the experience with my family,

1:36:41

just knowing that the time and the investment

1:36:43

that they put into me and my brother, you

1:36:45

know, is paying off. So, you know,

1:36:47

it's just really just overall real

1:36:49

humble experience, too, you know, just to be

1:36:52

able to sit down in the NFL now. You

1:36:54

know, it's been a calmest of my dreams for real. It

1:36:57

was off the charts. A great pass

1:36:59

rusher. In this league, in

1:37:02

order to win football games, you got to be able to

1:37:04

get at the quarterback. What is

1:37:06

the team getting in the player when they

1:37:08

get Dallas Turner? First of all,

1:37:10

they're going to get a great person, a great person,

1:37:12

a great, respectful person, too, in

1:37:14

the building, a great teammate that

1:37:17

you would count on, too. But really, just

1:37:19

a football, you know, just a person that, you know,

1:37:21

is just all about football, eats, sleeps, and breathes, and

1:37:23

so, you know, it's just a person that's

1:37:26

willing to learn everything and anything, you know, as

1:37:28

fast as I can, you know, to get to

1:37:30

where I want to be, you know, and it's

1:37:32

really just a good person out of the

1:37:34

house right now. Bro, you gave

1:37:36

me hell since you school versus Parris.

1:37:39

That's what I'm going to do.

1:37:42

That's what I'm going to do. Bro, I

1:37:44

was coaching defense. I said,

1:37:46

I don't know what you're going to do with that big ass. There's

1:37:51

some more people there. But

1:37:54

to see the progression, to see all everything

1:37:56

in high school, to all everything in college,

1:37:58

and come on up. be at that next

1:38:00

level. How do you continue

1:38:03

that at this next level? How do you how

1:38:05

do you be a premier pass rusher against the

1:38:07

best lineman in the league? I would probably want

1:38:09

to say consistency you know just doing what I've

1:38:12

been doing got me to where I'm at

1:38:14

now so you know just trying to myself around the right people

1:38:17

you know having good guys in the locker room you know and just

1:38:19

really just uh willing just to learn and

1:38:21

just be great you know just work hard no matter what you

1:38:23

go hard you know and if I go hard and

1:38:26

consistently go hard you know everything will fall in

1:38:28

place. Did you pick that meant? Yeah I picked

1:38:30

it up. Clean up. I was texting back and

1:38:32

forth with your father with the line throughout

1:38:36

the draft and

1:38:39

sometimes when you're in that green room

1:38:41

there's pressure in there you know you

1:38:43

get the projections this that pre-draft all

1:38:45

that other stuff and we'll look

1:38:47

at those you know I think you handled

1:38:49

yourself well yeah you know I'm looking forward

1:38:51

to actually seeing you get out there and

1:38:53

show the teams that drafted prior

1:38:56

to you getting picked show them what they

1:38:58

missed with the Vikings

1:39:00

letting go hunters it's offseason I

1:39:02

think you'll get an opportunity to

1:39:04

go out there and play early.

1:39:07

Are you ready? Oh yeah I'm definitely ready

1:39:09

I'm willing to accept any role that I

1:39:11

need to take at the Minnesota Vikings but you

1:39:13

know I know the culture you know I

1:39:15

took a visit out there in the middle of the coach's call

1:39:17

and never question Brian Fleurs but you know I

1:39:20

know the type of coach that they have in the type of coach they're

1:39:22

trying to establish but really though yeah

1:39:24

I'm ready for you to say I'm ready

1:39:26

you know. I like to read or try

1:39:28

to read body language. Will Anderson Jr. one

1:39:30

of the best rush-ins in

1:39:32

the league now you know he goes number

1:39:35

two a lot of people expected

1:39:37

you to go higher yeah right I can see

1:39:39

it on your face that it bothered you I

1:39:41

can see it on your face that you know

1:39:44

you're better than where you get picked although you've

1:39:46

already said that's a blessing and it is how

1:39:49

excited are you to show people who

1:39:52

you truly are. I'm definitely

1:39:54

excited for Sury to go out there you know

1:39:56

prove a lot of people wrong and stuff like that. It

1:39:59

was a little devastating that phrase but You know, everything happened

1:40:01

for a reason. I'm a firm believer that God puts a

1:40:04

lot of things in place and for a certain amount of time, you

1:40:06

know, to have

1:40:08

it a good end. I don't think that's it. Yeah.

1:40:11

So, you know, I'm just blessed to be here. You look

1:40:13

like you're ready to play now. Yeah, he's fighting. I got

1:40:15

your feet. He's late shaking. I can fight it up. I'm

1:40:17

scared. You know, I'm ready

1:40:19

to go to Minnesota tomorrow. Just

1:40:21

congratulations, man. Freddie T has

1:40:24

been talking about you, man, even

1:40:26

before the world knew about

1:40:28

Dallas Turner and who he was at Alabama,

1:40:30

bro. We are excited. It is truly, though,

1:40:32

a blessing, man. I love to see, you

1:40:35

know, you young brothers, hard work,

1:40:38

be recognized the way yours was tonight, even though

1:40:40

you went to Alabama. Oh, man.

1:40:42

And you know, I was looking at

1:40:44

him sideways. Yeah, you know, I enjoyed him.

1:40:46

Y'all know what he did there, unless you

1:40:48

were in Florida. We watch what he did

1:40:50

there in the true Florida. When

1:40:53

he came to the Jaguars game, they got a

1:40:55

poster of me here. And

1:40:58

he took a picture saying, he going to do something

1:41:00

to me. I can handle him. He's

1:41:04

been talking like that since he was this big.

1:41:06

Like, we talked with Caleb and a couple of

1:41:08

other guys. To see him have

1:41:10

this dream at this age and to be

1:41:13

able to see that dream come to fruition,

1:41:15

you know, and have an opportunity to continue watching

1:41:18

them, we can be holding the crampets, sitting

1:41:20

back with our remote. We'll have an opportunity

1:41:22

to see them live out their dreams, much

1:41:24

like we had an opportunity to live out

1:41:27

our dreams. That's what I love the most

1:41:29

about it. I coached against

1:41:31

him in high school, and it was like

1:41:33

that Leonardo DiCaprio means, when

1:41:36

he came up to air the first time, I was like, yep.

1:41:39

That's the one. That's the one right

1:41:41

there. We

1:41:43

got to see him on Sunday, man. It's cool

1:41:45

to see the progression. It's cool to see the

1:41:47

growth, bro. And it's all love. I

1:41:50

do not want to see you in South Florida and in

1:41:52

the clubs that I frequent. So

1:41:55

just know that if I see you in my car,

1:41:57

I'm gonna play Dallas. You got to get out of

1:41:59

here. Oh, I got you. Congratulations,

1:42:02

brother. Yes,

1:42:04

sir. Go do it, bro. Go

1:42:06

do it now. Yes, sir. It's

1:42:08

for real talk, man. Freddy T,

1:42:10

man, you can't beat that, bro. To see a kid

1:42:13

that you knew

1:42:16

from a youngin wanted to be where

1:42:19

Dallas Turner is tonight, and for him to

1:42:21

believe in himself, that, you know, that

1:42:23

had to be awesome for you. No, that's amazing, man. It's

1:42:26

sort of surreal. It makes it, it

1:42:29

makes what you guys say and tease me

1:42:31

about my age. Yeah, it

1:42:33

makes it like come right to my doorstep,

1:42:35

man. Dallas was a kid. He sort of,

1:42:38

he knew what he wanted. He

1:42:40

knew he wanted to be on this level in his

1:42:42

league. He used to always challenge me. I

1:42:45

was still playing ball. And he was young

1:42:47

walking around, what's up? You think you can

1:42:49

do this? Like he would always try me.

1:42:52

And, you know, he's developed into this

1:42:54

monster of a kid, hell of a

1:42:56

player, SEC defensive player of the year.

1:42:59

You know, didn't necessarily go his way

1:43:01

based on the projections, but that's okay.

1:43:04

17th pick over all the Minnesota. I

1:43:06

think he'll go into a good situation

1:43:09

where he can play early and show the people

1:43:11

what he can do. So, man,

1:43:13

I'm excited for him. I guess the thing I

1:43:15

would leave it with, for all the people who

1:43:18

didn't get drafted tonight, I know Chan, you

1:43:20

know, you expect it to go in the first round

1:43:22

and win the third. I get

1:43:24

how disappointing that can

1:43:26

be, but it takes all types to make

1:43:29

a team. You know, here on our team,

1:43:31

we got a first round pick. We got

1:43:33

a third round pick. We have an undrafted

1:43:35

free agent. They all did pretty well for

1:43:38

themselves. And so, you know, Chan, when

1:43:41

you think about the guys who didn't get their

1:43:43

name called today and what the next two days

1:43:45

will be like for them,

1:43:48

what's your thoughts? You just got

1:43:50

to get in the door. So,

1:43:52

honestly, to yourself, because I'm mad about not going

1:43:54

first round, everybody hears my draft story. And they're

1:43:56

like, why were you so upset? Because

1:43:59

I wanted to go. go first round, but

1:44:01

you went third round, but

1:44:03

I wanted to go first round, but I still

1:44:05

got in the door. I still made an impact

1:44:07

in the league. I still got dudes that pretty

1:44:09

tease and the Marchand Lynch and dudes that respected

1:44:11

me for the game. Get in

1:44:13

the door because there are some first round

1:44:15

picks today. We had labors here.

1:44:17

You know what I'm saying? We had Dallas

1:44:19

here, but there are some guys that aren't

1:44:21

going to be great in this league. That's

1:44:24

all that was that that's all that's all the

1:44:26

draft is. Getting in getting in

1:44:28

the door. I do believe like I

1:44:30

say Dallas is a monster. I think neighbors is

1:44:32

a monster. Jacksonville Brian Thomas Brian

1:44:34

Tom Bro. That

1:44:37

was one of my favorite see Rome. Yeah,

1:44:39

we had on the show broke. They can

1:44:41

only we had we had Roman killer there

1:44:43

together. They're right there in Chicago together. So

1:44:45

but now you have to prove it. And

1:44:47

that's the thing I tell like after draft

1:44:49

night, everybody's excited. But now

1:44:51

you have to go play with these grown men. Now you're not

1:44:53

playing with 18 to 23 year olds. Now

1:44:55

you're playing with grown men that have

1:44:58

four mortgages that have seven kids that

1:45:00

might have three or four divorce. They that

1:45:02

understand they why they know they why it.

1:45:04

That's the thing when I talk to these

1:45:07

when I go to a symposium to stuff

1:45:09

and talk to these kids. I'm like, okay,

1:45:11

now you made it. Now

1:45:13

you have to prove that you belong here

1:45:15

and all these guys got to prove that

1:45:17

they belong there. Now first pick

1:45:19

to Mr. Irrelevant to undrafted free agent. You have

1:45:22

to prove that you can play and you belong

1:45:24

in this league and that's what these guys got

1:45:26

to do moving forward. Yeah, I think tonight was

1:45:28

amazing. This is something different for us to sit

1:45:30

down with Dan. I only talk draft talk

1:45:33

a little bit about his life, which I think is

1:45:35

fascinating. And a lot of people don't know

1:45:37

to be with Malik neighbors after he finishes

1:45:40

his media requirements after

1:45:42

being drafted sixth overall and then

1:45:44

Dallas Turner going 17th to the

1:45:46

Minnesota Vikings as well. I thought

1:45:48

this was cool, man. I enjoyed

1:45:50

it. And you know, just another

1:45:52

step for the pivot. So from

1:45:55

the first round of the 2024 NFL draft, we

1:45:59

see y'all next Tuesday. I'm

1:46:03

a cop in it. I thought they had

1:46:05

a witness. Come on people. Feeling really good.

1:46:07

We're gonna get me up. When the media

1:46:09

get me up. No one me. I got

1:46:12

the key. I'm gonna get you like a

1:46:14

truck. Just let me know. They

1:46:16

get them the captain in it. I thought they

1:46:18

had a witness. Come on people. Feeling really good.

1:46:20

We're gonna get me up.

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