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Welcome back. We're doing a real deep dive

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here with Lauren Lapis on episode number

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one oh seven. Grandma was a rolling stone.

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This episode is a little bit of a doozy, so

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see beelt yourself in uh and

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welcome back to the show, Lauren Lacus. Okay,

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so we see Carrie Russell in the backyard and

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her mound of hair stunning.

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Daniel unbel I

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thought, maybe they can't have to pay in this episode because

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there's just too much hair, too much from

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that would make too much hair in

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one episode. I didn't remember.

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I don't I remember when Carrie Russell then

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cut her hair when she was on Felicity and it was

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a huge deal. It

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was the it was on the news. And then watching

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this episode, I was like, yeah, that's newsworthy.

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I can't believe she cut that. I honestly

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I can't either. I was looking at it going if I had

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that hair, well, I think I would look insane. But if

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I had that hair, I could take

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over the world. That's like amazing hair. She

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just and she's so cute. I mean it's

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it's just like you automatically like, oh, that's he

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must go out with her. You can't go

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with her, and by the way, what

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a cute couple. I know, cute.

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I remember almost nothing about her

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except that she was so

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nice to me. I mean, she could tell this

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was like my She'd been in the business forever, she'd

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done a bunch of stuff. This was like my sixth

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episode, and we would sit in between scenes. I remember

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we would sit we were at the Disney lot of the time, and our

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trailers were outside, and we would sit on the

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the on the curb and we talked about

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music and we talked about but I mean, she was just

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like she kept me chill kind of the whole

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week. And maybe that's one of the reasons I was more relaxed

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during this episode. But I distinctly

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just remember how nice a human being

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she was. She was great. Did you have any

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sort of crush on her? Of course I had a crush,

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She's Carrie Russell, but I never liked, never

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tried to like hit on her or do anything inappropriate.

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But it was But I mean it's hard not Did she have

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somebody? I honestly I don't.

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Did you have a girlfriend? Were

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you dating Nicki Cox at this point? Maybe

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you may have been dating Nikki because Nick just been on the episode.

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I may have been dating Nikki. I have no idea, and dating

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is put in quotes, by the way, his fifteen year old dating.

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Um, But but it was she

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was fifteen. I was um,

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but yeah, it was. It was. She was just

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Yeah, she was so sweet. I have no idea if she has a boyfriend,

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but she was. She was so nice to me and

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very easy to work with and and was like kind

2:39

of running me through the what

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certain things in the script meant, which we'll get into

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in the later scene. I can't wait to see

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because she translated something for

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me in a very funny way that always

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stuck with me, So I can't wait. We will get to

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that in a later scene. This

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incredible leap over the fence. Can

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I talk about this scene really quickly because

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it looks great and it's awesome, and

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I was terrible. We

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did this scene. By this point

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the audience had left. We

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had shot the scene once or twice badly.

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It was not this take, and

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Michael was like, let's move on while the audience

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is here. Then he got rid of the audience

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and we shot this scene over

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and over and over again,

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and I could not get it right. It

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was because of you or was it because of me?

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I was He didn't think I was big enough.

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I wasn't doing it right. I so

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certain things. By the way, notice

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you can't understand what you're not doing

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that needs to be done, and you're

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not doing it. But I don't know why. Don't

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do this, don't do that. So if you notice the

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first though in this scene, I hop over

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the fence and then I

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reached for her, and you see me pull

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my arm back. And it's because in the takes

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before, Michael's like, don't touch her. You would

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never touch her, You would never her jump over the fence and

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then just touch her. So you watch me. I

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got I like make a laugh, and I go to reach for her

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and I shoot my handback. So it's like this brought

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me right back to shooting this thing where it was you

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actually remember those individual beauts. This

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this scene is burned

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into my brain because it was again

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focused on me. Audience

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gone, I can't get it. Jeff

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Sherman, who's one of the writers and produces the show, still remembers

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the scene. He's like, oh, I remember you that night. And

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so we're sitting there and I'm doing and I'm doing

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it over and over again. And then comes

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the bag tossing, and I've

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now tossed the bag ten times, and

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I just it's so good. This is crazy that it was sound,

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but I had that's the thing. So the last

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time I did it, because you hadn't made the sound, I

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added the sound, which I've never done

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before. I went, let me and

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if you listen to that is the most Wilfordell

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moment. It's so like that is

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the thing that Will do. Like you tell

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them to throw a bag and throw it and it's

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funny, and it's kind of funny. But then Will will add

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that little thing that makes it it's

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perfect. I knew when I heard it. I was like, that

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was Will. That was not in the script. And

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well, that's the thing. You hear a huge

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laugh under a ginormous laugh.

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The ginormous laugh is fake. They

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added that the audience is gone. It's

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the machine. But if you listen, you

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can hear all the producers and the directors

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defawing. And that's

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when I knew I had had it. Right

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after that, I go to reach for her again and I

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pulled my arm back again, like you still can't

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touch her, Still can't touch her. But

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I gotta go frame by frame on this,

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and you can hear, I mean in my head,

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and I can hear the difference between the fake

5:41

laugh track and them actually laughing. And

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that was the tuning fork I was talking about. It's like,

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oh, that's the huge laugh like I felt, it

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was so natural, And that scene

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is what changed the whole thing for me, like changed the

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whole show for me. Was that scene at probably

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one o'clock in the morning, because we're all adults, there were

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no kids in the scene. In the scene,

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no she we shot her out by

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that point. So that's what you filmed in front of the audience,

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you use you used the lily takes

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from the audience shoots, and then all makes

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sense. Yeah, exactly. And then

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there's the rest is just Carrie and myself

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and Bill there at like midnight or

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whatever. And we finally got that scene

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and like Lauren said, Carrie breaks, And

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I'm not knowing that that was I thought that

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was like part of it that she as the character was

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also laughing at Eric. But now knowing that

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you added that it was probably a real break. Maybe

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I don't know. It looked like there was some authenticity

6:34

to that to mean it. That's really that was a great

6:36

scene. That was a very important scene for me, and because

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I burned into my head, one of the things I wrote down

6:41

is that the scene isn't It's one of the

6:43

first times, uh that it

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isn't this. The scene is entirely

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dependent on your performance, do

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you know what I mean? Like the story of the scene is

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that you are flailing or that

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you are performing, like even when you're doing your gritted

6:56

teeth thing, like this is one of those scenes where

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it doesn't work unless perform

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at this level. I'm retroactively

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nervous. Thank you. It's

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true though we were still we're still all finding

7:09

ourselves as actors. I mean, we've talked about

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it. The only person who and we've said this

7:13

before, writer and you don't agree, but it's true. The

7:15

only person who seemed to know what they were doing

7:17

and have their character down from the second

7:19

they stepped on set was you. Yeah. The rest

7:21

of us were still trying to figure it out, and you were

7:23

Sean from word one of the pilot,

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so it was like they didn't know what Sean was,

7:28

but you already had that. So

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it was we're still flailing as we go

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and I can look at me and go, oh I got it there, whereas

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you I was like, yeah, writer already what he was doing.

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So Lee was another one who kind of right from

7:40

the right from the get knew what he like, had

7:42

his character bill um you know the

7:44

rest of us. I was just I was founding

7:46

around. So this was an important one for me. So

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in the scene, uh, Morgan

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is there. She does her little lines to try

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and get Jessica to go out

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with with Eric, and Morgan

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convinces Eric to take her to the carn of All

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with Jessica, and phoene says, um,

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you know that you should probably invite me, and so

8:05

Eric reluctantly invites Poene and Phoeney

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says he'd rather have gum surgery than go

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to the carnival, and which was

8:11

kind of dark. There was like a moment where the camera

8:13

like followed him like it was sort of like not how

8:16

it typically looks like, it kind of like followed

8:18

him as he said the joke and he left the scene. I

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was like, whoa, he does not want to go. It

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just got real's got real driving

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that point home. He does not want to go. So

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then we're back in the kitchen and Corey

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and Amy have made four batches of muffins.

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Corey says they should call the police in case something

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bad happened to Grandma. He's worried about her,

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and Amy says she has known Grandma for a

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long time and there is something that Corey should

8:42

know. And Corey then realizes

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that Grandma is not coming to get him,

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and then Corey

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says it's not a big deal. It's just a

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stupid road trip, and Amy suggests that Corey

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calls his best bud,

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Sean. Corey then says, yes,

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I'll call my best budd Sean on and

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now exactly what we had talked about in the previous

9:02

episodes, the best bud, this is my

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go to guy, has now been well established.

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You guys think maybe this is where I got my last

9:09

name? Yes, yeah,

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because I would Has Phoeny ever called

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me out in class, because I would be the only time that we would

9:17

have heard my last name. I don't think

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he has I know he said Mr Matthews,

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Ms Lawrence and didn't didn't

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he say? Mr Hunter and Mr Minkus

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When they both slapped their heads like they're now

9:28

they're they're teamed up, must

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have right, he wouldn't said Sean. And well, I'm

9:33

trying to remember what did it say on the script page. Did

9:35

it say Shaun or did it say Sean Hunter? Becausember, the

9:37

first page of the script was always it had the character's

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names and then the actor playing them,

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um, and then you'd get on

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the first page of the script it would always said all

9:48

the characters and the actors playing them. And

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like, I think my name was like the

9:52

fourth or fifth one in that list last

9:55

names. Don't remember said

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our last name? Said our last names? Yeah, so

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I think Sean Hunter.

10:02

Yeah, you probably always because it's right because he was Stuart

10:04

Lemky when we when we first started, we

10:06

talked about that. Yes, yeah, so

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I think I do think it was probably in there,

10:11

but this maybe maybe it was one of the first times you

10:13

heard it out loud on the show instead

10:15

of knowing it just privately. What your name was funny,

10:18

Like a little bell went off in my head in this scene.

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I think it was that at the time I remember

10:23

getting a last name, like I remember being

10:25

exciting that or maybe it was just

10:27

that I was excited that I was referred to as the

10:29

best friend. So I knew that you might never

10:31

work for me. My question was they

10:33

obviously hadn't established your family life, but going

10:36

forward, I could never remember

10:38

because they switched it. Your chet was

10:40

always gone and you always lived with your mom,

10:43

or Shawn's mom was always gone and you always

10:45

lived with his dad. It's both,

10:47

It's both. It goes both way because I

10:50

think basically my dad abandoned me because he

10:52

was a traveling salesman and

10:54

I was always with my mom. But then my mom literally

10:57

left our lives right right right like

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and bailed on me. And I don't know if that's

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in until my teens or when that happens,

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but right so, at this point, I could be living

11:06

with my mom and Stacy

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like a lovely household somewhere that

11:13

then dissolves in a few episodes. Yet the

11:17

storyline that your mom left your family

11:19

is definitely the one that resonated

11:21

the most to me because I when he

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says, oh, Mrs Matthews, my first thought

11:26

was, Oh, his mom's around in this opening

11:28

me because we did whole episodes about her coming back.

11:31

I think we did. That's what it was. I thought the same

11:33

guest start, but because I think

11:35

we ended up having two different moms. Didn't I two

11:37

different actresses. I don't know I had three moms.

11:39

Yeah,

11:42

everybody had multiple parents on the show, except

11:44

for the Matthew. Speaking of moms, because we've talked

11:46

about the first few episodes,

11:48

we we've harped many times and rightfully

11:51

so, and we could do it again with this episode about

11:53

how good Rusty is amazing,

11:56

so that Betsy is really

11:58

good in this episode. So yes, she's

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great, and I don't think we talked about that enough because

12:03

she does anchor. I mean a lot of things

12:05

we've talked about. They they've really given her the

12:07

domestic role, which again nothing wrong with that, but she always

12:09

seems to be in the kitchen or cooking something or something

12:12

like. But she is really

12:14

really good in this episode.

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She really is. And I thought the

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way we touched on it earlier, but I thought

12:20

the way even she approaches this,

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listen, I've known your grandmother for a long time.

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Um. It didn't have the

12:27

feeling of like, sit down, we

12:30

need to talk. It had the feeling of

12:32

listen, people are going to disappoint you

12:35

sometimes and Grandma

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has a tendency to come and

12:39

go and this may be one of those times where

12:41

you're disappointed, and it was

12:43

like a weighty message

12:46

without feeling like you were drowning.

12:49

Yeah, And it wasn't like the and also which we'll

12:51

talk about later about this same with the dad, where that's that same

12:53

thing. It wasn't like that sitcom

12:56

moment where the music comes on and you

12:58

get really sad and you feel bad about

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how your grandma doesn't care. It's like they

13:03

framed it in such an interesting way that I just thought

13:05

that was really smart and it felt like really

13:07

authentic to life, like some

13:09

people are like this and that's okay, like you could

13:11

still love her. Yeah, no judgment really

13:13

Yeah. Um, So Corey calls

13:15

his best bud Shawn, Mrs Matthews answer, Mrs

13:18

Hunter answers and says that

13:21

sean fishing, which

13:23

is great. That's a great little story

13:25

twist. It was very cute.

13:29

Um. And so for Corey

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and I know, well he really he he

13:33

was really bummed by it, like it was

13:36

compared to and maybe he was just projecting his

13:38

his anger about the cal Ripken thing onto

13:41

that, but like considering he had been so excited

13:43

about cal Ripken, he really seemed significantly

13:45

more bummed about the fishing situation

13:48

than he did about Grandma. I think it's

13:50

also his responsibility. You know, he forgot

13:53

the can blame but himself. It's

13:57

so much worse that he just because I forgot, like

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created this situation. I love that be

14:02

true. It's not out of his control. It was totally in

14:04

his control. So he just feels bad. Yeah,

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So we're in the backyard. Corey is sitting in

14:09

his treehouse. Morgan, Eric, and Jessica are

14:11

back from the carnival. Morgan is still feeding

14:13

Jessica the lines that Eric has told her. Jessica

14:16

asks who the signature is on Eric's

14:18

arm. She seems a little jealous, flirty, jealous.

14:21

Jessica says, it's obvious he used Morgan as

14:23

date bait, and she

14:25

said he didn't need to work so hard or really even

14:28

at all. And they start kissing,

14:30

and Corey is watching from his treehouse

14:32

and Alan and Sean walk up behind

14:34

them as this kissing is going

14:37

on. Now, will this

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is your first on screen

14:42

kiss ever? Did

14:45

you guys kiss her? In rehearsals? We did.

14:49

She taught me not to

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put your tongue down. The script meda,

14:54

Okay, I know that's happened to people

14:58

so that I will never forget this. Script

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says, and they kiss dot dot

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dot a good kiss. Oh,

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I don't forget that. And I said to her, what does that mean?

15:07

And without missing a beat,

15:09

she went tongue the

15:12

opposite it was. It was that

15:14

it was kind of she said it to tongue

15:16

in cheek. Sorry, um,

15:18

but that's exactly what I'll never forget

15:20

that. I said, what does that mean? And she went tongue and

15:22

that's literally what the script said, dot dot dot h

15:25

speechless. So it

15:28

was that's the difference between like a peck

15:30

on the lips, yeah, look

15:33

like a real kiss, or you're moving your head around in her

15:35

case that giant mound of hair. That's

15:38

kind of all you see. You don't really see the kiss. And again,

15:41

there was no reason to French kiss. He didn't

15:43

have to. But she knew the industry. She knew

15:46

she like she knew what this meant because we had talked

15:48

about I was like, this is my first on screen kiss, and

15:50

the first run through our

15:53

teeth bumped. I've talked about this before.

15:55

Like I moved in too fast and I hit

15:57

her teeth and I was like, that's it. I'm never kissing

15:59

anyone in like, I just I'm done.

16:01

People don't realize how hard it is to just do

16:03

everyday normal things as an actor. Everyone

16:08

is offering at you. You got all the producers

16:10

and everyone staring at you, and it's

16:12

Carrie Russell in front of you, and our

16:14

teeth bumped and then my whole that's all was

16:16

in my head was like, oh my god, I just smashed

16:19

this poor woman's teeth with my own

16:22

and I'm never kissing again. And that was

16:24

a good run as a lover and I'm done now.

16:26

But I think I think you're lucky that

16:28

she explained how to do it,

16:31

because that takes the pressure

16:33

off you, like, because it's

16:35

so uncomfortable and I and it's very uncomfortable

16:38

for both people, especially as kids, to be

16:40

like, um, how am I supposed

16:42

to approach this? And I don't want to ask

16:44

like how do you kiss? Or you know, it's like it's very

16:47

like tough, and so she made it very

16:49

easy for you just to say that's okay,

16:51

we're doing it this way. I started

16:54

asking when I was about eighteen,

16:56

and it was a girl a week

16:58

writer. We both went through this were just that's

17:00

your part. Now you're gonna kiss girl. It

17:03

was like I started asking what, like,

17:06

how would you like to do this because it's just

17:08

I mean, it's it's creepy too, and when

17:11

you know not to jump way ahead, but the screen episode

17:13

where I'm kissing love, people are like, wow,

17:15

it looks like you just jam your tongue down the throat and I was

17:17

like, well, I did a for the joke and be she was

17:19

actually my girlfriend, like she knew we

17:22

were going to kiss. But if it's Hi, it's nice

17:24

to meet, like Marguerite Moreau, and she came on, another

17:26

wonderful actress and a really nice person. It was like we

17:28

talked a little bit about it because it wasn't just like

17:31

Hi, it's nice to meet you. Now I have to jump on

17:33

you and throw my tongue on your throat. It's

17:35

really creepy. So it was

17:37

and a lot of that is because of carry because Carrie

17:39

was like, this is what it means, this is what

17:42

we'll do, and she kind of held

17:44

my hand and walked me through it

17:46

because it was it was hugely

17:48

uncomfortable. It was it's just everyone

17:50

talks about that, like, oh man, you got to kiss all these

17:52

girls and you got to do all this and it's like it's not

17:55

awesome. You think it's you

17:57

might think it is, but it really is

18:00

horribly uncomfortable to do in front of an

18:03

audience and hearing people go whoo and

18:05

all this. It's really uncomfortable.

18:07

Well, and chemistry is not is

18:09

something that like you can't put your

18:12

finger on and just because they want you

18:14

to have chemistry with someone doesn't mean you actually do

18:16

have chemistry with somebody. And

18:18

not everyone kisses the same, not

18:21

every so, like I

18:23

would say in response to what Will just said, like there were

18:25

times when it was fun, but totally other

18:27

times when it wasn't, and it really just depended on the person

18:30

and that it wasn't whether they were pretty or

18:32

not. It was just literally that chemistry thing. Like

18:34

there were times when I was like I do not want to have to kiss this person

18:36

again, like it is awful, and then there are other times when

18:38

you're like, oh, that was fine. Also,

18:41

we we should, seriously, we should at least address because

18:43

especially in this day and age, it needs to be talked about

18:45

the kind of power disparity disparity

18:48

that's going on. Because we're

18:50

regulars on the show, so we

18:52

we have a job. We know we're going to have

18:55

a job, and here's somebody who's coming on

18:57

who is a guest cast and

18:59

it's like, I'm going to do whatever

19:01

the regular because I don't want so it puts

19:04

puts the actors in a position of saying, I'm

19:06

not going to actors, your tongue

19:09

down down my throat, you know what I mean, puts the

19:10

put the guest actors in a position.

19:13

These these young women coming in having to

19:15

say I don't want you to put your tongue down

19:17

my throat, and you're putting them in that position,

19:19

and a lot of people at the time, especially,

19:22

I don't know, it's just it's weird. The whole situation

19:24

is just the role of an intimacy

19:27

coordinator makes so much sense to me. I

19:29

love that idea. I mean, i'd never heard of that when

19:31

we were you know, we never never existed, and

19:33

now it's become pretty standard on sets,

19:36

and I love it. I think that I've never worked with

19:38

them personally, but I totally think

19:40

that that's a necessary role

19:42

because, you know, because you can't just trust that a

19:45

director or a producer is gonna

19:47

have the you know, the wherewithal

19:50

or the experience or the delicate tone

19:52

or whatever is situation

19:54

or the morality. Right, There's a lot of different

19:57

ways this could go, and I think having an

19:59

assigned person just to you

20:01

know, navigate that with the actors

20:03

is great. Um and yeah,

20:06

an essential role, but yeah, I mean that's basically what

20:08

we're talking about, is the need for an intimacy coordinator.

20:10

Laur Unless your experience with on screen

20:13

kisses, Oh my god. I

20:15

always thought I would never have to do it for some reason,

20:17

and I've had to do so many crazy,

20:20

crazy, amazingly hysterical

20:22

moment in Jurassic World though, where you stop him from

20:24

kissing it's like one of my favorite gads.

20:28

No, no, okay, totally.

20:31

That was very fun, But like the I've

20:34

had, My first one was like a music video

20:36

and it was like supposed to be really nasty, like

20:38

spit. We had fake spit in our mouths.

20:42

Yeah, yeah, but it was still my first time doing

20:44

it, so I was like, oh no, and then like it's

20:47

like the spits dangling between the two people. It was just

20:49

really rough. And then I'm sorry, was I

20:52

don't want to delve into that, but I have to. Was

20:55

it supposed to be funny or was it supposed

20:57

to be sexy crazy? No, it's supposed

20:59

to just be kind of like weird, Like

21:02

it's a it's a music video where like Food is singing,

21:04

like there's just a lot going on, like it's that they

21:06

might be giants video, Like it's kind of like weird

21:09

already. This song is weird, the music video

21:11

is weird. All the weird um.

21:13

And to do the video because

21:15

I love that band. But yeah, the kiss

21:18

rough because you have to have this like it's

21:20

like cherry flavor but not you know, And I was

21:22

like gagging really, and then you don't want to be gagging

21:24

at someone that you're kissing. It's like that's not that's not polite. So

21:28

Danielle really disgusting.

21:30

It's like the idea, it's really it's like

21:32

it's actually gonna make me. It's gonna make me gags

21:35

because I know, I know, I know it really is sick

21:37

um. But it's disgusting

21:40

that idea of like a mouthful of fake

21:42

spiff and then leaning in with something in your

21:44

mouth to kiss somebody. I know, because you're

21:46

holding it like you're like keep talking about

21:48

it. We don't need to keep talking about

21:50

but I know I've had to do a bunch of weird

21:52

kisses or like kisses where they're like make

21:54

it a good one, sort of where someone's like can

21:56

you really do it this time? And it's like

21:59

okay, and then you look at the other person like okay,

22:01

and then you just really do it.

22:04

But it's like, geez, like, it's just

22:06

a weird job. It's a weird job.

22:08

That's the thing you're at work, you're at it's

22:11

like, it's just it's weird. Yeah.

22:14

Well, Terry Russell was very, very nice and

22:16

took my hand and kind of I really appreciate

22:18

that. And then when I've definitely had situations where I've

22:20

been so grateful for extra communication and

22:23

as I as I, you know, work more and

22:25

more, I feel like I get more confident saying like

22:27

here's how we're gonna do this and whatever. But I definitely in

22:29

the first time is doing that kind of stuff, didn't say

22:31

anything and felt more like

22:33

I'm just going in my own little world as we prepare

22:35

for this moment and then we have to do it, and you

22:39

know, so

22:48

it's strange to me. We've talked about a little, but

22:51

it's very strange that in the nineties, kissing

22:53

on a kids TV show was a totally normal

22:55

thing, and now it does not seem

22:57

to be the case. Right, like family sitcoms

23:00

I don't think have this component.

23:03

Why is that? I mean, because it's not like we've gotten

23:05

more conservative, is

23:07

it? Is it because we've actually gotten like

23:09

there's more access to porn, so

23:12

like we don't like people don't like you watch

23:14

a kids show, you don't need to

23:17

watch people kissing. You can go find that somewhere else

23:19

when kids can find it, and there's so many shows

23:22

that are beyond their age. It's because

23:24

the accessibility of that kind of content

23:26

has been like completely enabled,

23:29

right culturally, like we can find if if kids

23:31

want to find watch people kissing, I guess

23:33

you can search for that, right so on. But

23:36

back then, it seems like you were servicing the idea

23:38

of like like all being slightly

23:41

luscifious, like like having to be a little

23:43

sexy, and that was like part of the who But

23:45

now that we just seem out of place, like

23:47

it's I'm not watching the show for that, you

23:49

know. I wonder if it's because it

23:51

was like t G I f if you think of that,

23:54

like families gathering around to watch, so you

23:56

want to give something for everyone. It's like there might be

23:58

the seventeen year old kids sitting there, there might be an eight

24:00

year old, there might be a data mom and or whatever. So it's

24:02

like that. It was like you're pleasing

24:04

a bunch of different audiences in one show, which we don't

24:06

really before. That's what I was gonna

24:09

say. It's it's there's no more, for

24:11

lack of a better phrase, in between shows,

24:13

it's either Disney Channel or it's

24:16

um, you know a family show, like

24:18

like, um, what was the Modern

24:21

Family? It's like the idea where

24:23

it's kind of like in between now. So just

24:25

like Lauren saying where it's like kind of teenagers

24:28

making him out on Modern Family, well, you

24:30

know, they take it even farther. They talk about sex and

24:32

she got predic to talk about it. But do you watch people?

24:36

Yes, there was there was an episode where you

24:38

know that you walk in and the parents were in

24:41

we might have to dug this we're in, I mean like

24:43

literally, Okay, It's like it's

24:45

like so it's one of those things where

24:47

I guess that's on a show. I mean,

24:49

that's on a television show. I wouldn't believed you

24:51

without the description. I

24:56

believed you when you said that, yes, they go

24:58

there. But can I throw another

25:00

suggestion or another idea that maybe

25:02

is there a possibility? And maybe this is just my hopeful,

25:05

wishful thinking, but like, is there

25:07

a part of it that also is about that the

25:09

people writing the content are now uncomfortable

25:12

asking real twelve

25:15

because I know that when I do think

25:17

that's a part of it, because I know that when I

25:19

have been on sets, the conversation

25:22

around well, we would never ask a child

25:24

to do that, well, we would never have. We would never

25:26

like, we're not doing that because that's an uncomfortable

25:29

thing to ask any fourteen year old to do? Is

25:31

now? And they weren't asking that, They weren't

25:33

asking that question. We were actors. It

25:36

didn't matter whether or not we were uncomfortable

25:38

or comfortable with it. Whatever the writer wrote

25:40

is what you. You did, and

25:43

you were made to feel that if you did have some

25:45

if something did make you uncomfortable, it was inappropriate

25:48

for you to express that. You weren't really supposed

25:50

to say, I don't want I don't want to do this, I don't want

25:52

to feel comfortable. You're a prop as an actor, basically

25:55

you say the words that we do what's written

25:57

on this page, no questions asked. Having autonomy

25:59

as a child actor is very difficult, you know. You

26:02

you you start to believe that if you

26:04

if you stand up for yourself or do

26:07

or do not want to do something, or do or do not want

26:09

to say a certain line a certain way or whatever, you

26:11

feel like you're making waves and you feel like you're

26:14

part of a problem, and it's and so

26:16

unhealthy, you know, And I, you know, I just started

26:18

not listening. I

26:21

mean, you were always in front of me at the notes session

26:23

because I would always go I'd get notes and I

26:25

go okay, okay, and

26:27

you guys would joke with me later like you and

26:29

Ben would walk by and go like okay, okay,

26:32

knowing that what I was actually doing was was just going all right,

26:34

and then I'm going to do it however the hell I want to do it,

26:36

and that's just what it's going to be. So

26:39

that, I mean, that was there's a great

26:41

kind of freedom in that where it's like, at the end

26:43

of the day, I'm the one standing in front of the camera.

26:46

So unless you're gonna walk out onto the

26:48

set and move my mouth. I'm going to say

26:50

it the way I want to say it, um,

26:52

which which some. But in the meantime, we're

26:54

going to keep you after the show is over and

26:57

keep doing this scene over and over and

26:59

over again. So so will

27:01

for what you're saying is like you were in a battle

27:03

of wills and they were going to keep going until

27:05

you made But that came later

27:08

that the oak just saying okay and doing it

27:10

my own way probably wasn't until about fourth or fifth

27:12

season. I mean that was like later in the day where

27:14

I was like, I got this now, and

27:16

so I'll listen to your notes, but I'm gonna

27:18

do it the way that I want to do it, um.

27:21

And that was I got that from Bill and Rusty,

27:24

And when you saw when they got notes, they were like

27:26

all right, and then they

27:28

go and rehearse and it was like, let's

27:30

really blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And so there

27:32

was like the power grab. I

27:34

don't even wasn't even a power grab. It was just trying to

27:36

balance it again where it was just kind of like, okay, we're

27:38

not We're past the point of just put

27:40

the words in my mouth? Um,

27:42

which was which is crazy?

27:49

Hey, this is Bobby Brown and I'm relaunching

27:52

my podcast The Important Things. What's

27:54

important to me is everything from

27:57

how to live my life, how to run my

27:59

biss business, what to do if I

28:01

feel anxious, what to do if

28:04

I'm overwhelmed. Certainly

28:06

I will tackle a lot of the issues

28:08

about getting older. I will tackle

28:11

with curiosity a lot of the issues

28:13

about what should we be eating, because

28:15

everyone tells us something different and

28:17

I'm just curious how other really

28:19

busy, interesting women

28:22

get things done. My first episode

28:24

is Giada de Laurentis, who is

28:26

adorable and gave such

28:29

great information. Talked to Jenna

28:31

Elfman, Gabby Reeese. I mean,

28:33

come on, the woman knows everything.

28:36

Talk to Jillian Michael's and that's going to

28:38

be a great one. I hope that you

28:40

will come along for the ride because

28:42

it's been really fun to do this. So

28:45

listen to the Important Things with Bobby Brown

28:47

wherever you listen to podcasts. Okay,

28:54

so we have Sean comes in wearing

28:56

a funny hat. Yeah, now that's

28:58

where I can trime in. Now, Okay,

29:02

if we are really going to get to that, what's up with the hat,

29:05

the best hat.

29:07

That's three but the hat is like it's

29:09

three's you

29:11

know. They were just like let's let's let's

29:13

let's say they went fishing as

29:16

boldly and it was like,

29:18

yeah, it was movie, it was.

29:20

This is actually a very I would say this scene

29:23

is one of the most sitcommun scenes evert

29:25

from start to finish, like all the wooze,

29:27

the kissing, the jokes themselves, Eric

29:30

the lipmaster. This feels

29:32

like this feels like the show Boy

29:34

Meets World was most of the time, not

29:37

do you know what I mean? This is like, this is us kind of

29:39

failing to distinguish ourselves from

29:41

pretty mainstream, like not great

29:43

sitcoms. This is like joke, joke, joke,

29:45

me and and he so yeah,

29:48

it was like of course, of course, like yeah, it

29:51

congratulating him on kissing her. But

29:55

I did get a laugh from Corey

29:57

at the end, like you kissed of Phoenie or of

30:00

these days swap spit with a phenie

30:03

with It was categorizing

30:05

her as you know, I know, I know, categorizing

30:08

her as like a phenie. That was just great because it's act she's

30:10

so cute. It's like that's just a funny way it is.

30:12

It was a funny way of thinking about it, calling her a phenie.

30:14

It's really cute. So this is the first

30:16

reference to Sean eating so

30:18

much. Did you guys catch that? Actually

30:20

did write it in? Because we talked about on the show,

30:23

I'm always eating and scenes, and this was it was actually

30:25

written in, So I guess it was a character. It

30:27

was the character saying that you probably

30:29

were not eating at home and so everywhere

30:31

you were, Yeah, you

30:33

were always eating. But going back

30:35

to you being the most adjusted actor

30:37

already, you actually ate

30:40

in scenes. And I mean to the point

30:42

where all actors. When I was literally

30:45

maybe an hour before we came on

30:47

this podcast watching an episode of Sopranos,

30:50

and these amazing, multi award

30:52

winning actors are pushing their food around

30:54

with the good man. That's what good acting

30:57

is. But when you really

30:59

go some times it really works. Like I was just watching

31:01

something I can't remember what it was, and it was a more recent

31:03

thing and the girl was like, I mean, I mean all

31:05

these donuts and I was like, no, she's not. And then she's still there

31:08

with a donut and she literally picked off a corner of

31:10

a think. I was like, show

31:12

don't out in your mouth. I'm gonna need you to shove

31:15

in your mouth like you actually

31:17

ate. And they're all all these shows. We just when

31:19

you push around the food with your fork. Agree.

31:21

I like to see people eating.

31:23

I really do. It's great.

31:26

Well maybe maybe I would agree with you, but I have PTSD

31:29

from you and it makes you sick. I mean, I've

31:31

definitely gone for it. Like I was

31:33

on the show Good Girls and I had to eat some donuts

31:35

and shove them in my mouth as part of my character being like

31:37

sloppy, and I just kept going. But

31:40

by the end I was like spitting them out and like it was

31:42

just just getting disgusted. It's like, you know,

31:44

you can commit to a point, but true, it's

31:46

the it's the push around in the fork shake. The

31:49

fork shake is big. You put one piece of food

31:51

on the fork and you shake it over the

31:53

plate as if that is fake eating. And

31:55

it's as you're doing your line, you're just shaking

31:57

your fork. That is a common one. The mood of

32:00

the four. Yeah, it's very strange, but

32:02

right are you always eight? Very impressive? So

32:04

Corey tells Alan he didn't go to Baltimore

32:07

with Grandma because she didn't show up.

32:09

And then we move into the kitchen

32:11

and there are hundreds of muffins

32:13

everywhere and Alan

32:16

tries them and says they're a little dry. He says

32:18

he's been in Corey's shoes before with grandma not

32:20

showing up, and he tells a story about Grandma

32:23

not turning in his permission slip in school so he couldn't

32:25

go on a school field trip. And so

32:27

we go. We go from the least boy

32:29

meets World seeing to the most world

32:31

you know what I mean, Like this is what made the show special

32:34

Rusties performance, giving this monologue,

32:37

the casualness of them just setting down

32:39

and having this without like the special music playing,

32:42

like you were saying, like there is there's

32:44

an effortlessness to this scene.

32:46

And it's it's diffusing, right,

32:48

it's diffusing all the tension. It's telling Corey

32:51

like you're spinning out, dude, Like you're just

32:53

being a kid right now. And and I'm going to tell

32:55

you this life lesson, but it's going to be

32:57

relaxing. It's not like it's not like you're

32:59

in trouble. It's not like any you know anything,

33:01

anybody did anything wrong. This is just

33:03

life, kid, And that it's like such a great

33:06

tone. It's also not from Phoenie,

33:08

which I like, we don't

33:10

get a lesson from Poenie at all in this episode.

33:13

It felt like the kind of lesson that I

33:15

wish more people gave,

33:17

do you know what I mean? Like, I feel like it's not something

33:19

that you hear very often. Um Like,

33:22

I just think a lot of shows would have made that

33:24

a big dramatic, sad

33:26

thing that his grandma's like this. Maybe when she

33:28

comes back in they have like a heart to heart and

33:30

she explains why she's

33:33

like this or something, And it was just more like he

33:35

got to kind of accept it, and he just and he accepted

33:38

it really well, like he just was like,

33:40

okay, yeah, not to be the

33:42

person who always has like the

33:45

therapy background on the whole thing. Please.

33:49

I think the thing that is the most interesting

33:52

to me about this scene is that it's

33:54

all about p o V. And we regularly

33:57

tell ourselves stories about our lives,

34:00

and Alan could have very well and

34:02

he would have been correct if his

34:04

p o V had been my mom always

34:07

abandoned me. When I

34:09

needed my mom, she wasn't there,

34:12

and in big important moments

34:14

in my life, I couldn't count on her.

34:16

That's a p o V. That's a p o V from

34:18

his experience he could have had. It's the same

34:21

po V Corey could have. Now, my grandmother

34:23

made me a promise about something I was so

34:25

excited about, and when I trusted her, she

34:28

let me down, or the

34:31

same exact situation from just a

34:33

different p o V. A different story we

34:35

could tell ourselves is Grandma

34:38

is flawed, and sure, she

34:40

may not be there after she's promised to be

34:42

there. But on the other hand, the

34:44

moments when she's made it up to me, the other moments

34:47

when she is there for me are so salient

34:49

to me because they were so special. And that

34:51

my mom wasn't watching the

34:54

you know, the the takeoff, she was watching

34:56

me, and I knew she was watching me, and I knew,

34:59

yes, that was good, Like

35:01

it's it's it's great, it's it's a great

35:04

description and you know it's not and I would I would

35:06

just add it's also redirecting to the relationship

35:09

versus a a very specific experience,

35:11

right, Like I'm not going to hold on to one

35:13

memory, I'm going to hold onto this relationship

35:16

ongoing. Like I could hold a grudge or

35:18

I could just let that one go because I know there's

35:20

another one coming that that's going to be great. And so

35:22

it's it's redirecting from you know, this

35:25

one specific memory or this one loss to

35:28

you it's better to have a relationship with this person

35:30

in the long run. And I can't love people in slices.

35:32

You take the whole thing or you don't. Yeah, And there

35:34

will be conflict in every relationship.

35:36

There will be conflict. And it doesn't mean that

35:39

that person is bad or that relationship

35:41

is necessarily bad. It's just that

35:43

there will be conflict and there will be moments

35:46

of being let down in every relationship.

35:48

And and it it doesn't

35:50

need to be you can tell it. You can

35:52

tell a story to yourself that could

35:55

make it way worse than it is, or you could tell

35:57

the story to yourself that's much more like, this

35:59

is the person, These are their flaws, and

36:01

I love them anyway, and here are some great

36:03

things about them. I just it was like it

36:05

was I just thought it was a

36:07

very well thought out p

36:10

o V for them to have, not

36:12

only just to see how well established

36:14

and like, what a what a

36:16

great well rounded person Alan is,

36:18

but also that that's the story he's going

36:20

to pass on to Corey about his grandmother instead

36:23

of you know, your Grandma's gonna let you down a lot. Yeah,

36:27

I really every time we watched these shows now,

36:29

I really wish I

36:31

had understood how good

36:33

Rusty was when we were doing these

36:36

episodes. I know he's so

36:38

good, and I wish I thought

36:41

about something I thought about earlier when

36:43

we were talking about Betsy. Um

36:46

uh. Something that happens on a sitcom set

36:48

often is uh,

36:50

you everybody gets so obsessed with the

36:52

jokes, with the comedy, with the beats, it

36:54

starts to become who's getting the biggest

36:57

laughs, who's getting you know, And not

36:59

like in a bad way. It's mostly supportive. It's mostly

37:01

like, oh my god, did you see what Will is doing this week? Do you see

37:03

what Ben's doing this? And we would be we would be

37:05

aware of the sort of bigger

37:08

swings that people are taking comedy

37:10

wise, that we would totally as

37:12

a community overlook the more

37:14

subtle, basic performances that

37:17

somebody like Betsy is doing in this episode, which

37:19

is just as hard, by the way, but I bet you

37:21

more than anything, Betsy was probably disappointed

37:24

as an actor often that she didn't

37:26

get more laughs, that she wasn't being written a

37:28

better role, because when you're on a sitcom, you

37:30

keep thinking, where am I going to get my chance to like

37:32

get a joke in or you know, get a laugh or have a

37:34

whole episode about me. But the reality

37:37

is she's wonderful in this episode.

37:39

She's very small part, but she's wonderful. And same

37:41

with like Rusty. I feel like we probably just breezed

37:43

over this scene in our minds because it wasn't like

37:46

as funny as you throw in the bag, you

37:48

know, so like that, like what will we talk about the next week?

37:50

We're not sitting around going Rusty is monologue

37:52

and you know, you just totally take it for granted. But

37:54

the reality is it's genius because it's

37:56

so understated, so simple, so believable,

37:59

and in this could have been so cheesy in the hands

38:01

of a wrong actor, like it's a it's a monologue

38:03

on a sitcom. When he nails it, he just one

38:06

of the things I was thinking about, which is interesting, And again I

38:08

don't know why my mind went to this place. Was

38:11

they easily could have made it

38:14

Betsy's mom and given

38:16

Betsy a better role this week oh

38:19

yeah, Like it could have been Betsy

38:21

giving the lesson. It could have been Betsy giving

38:23

the monologue, because because now Alan

38:26

has done that in a number of episodes, and

38:28

it easily could have been an episode where they

38:30

really left character. They were,

38:33

ye, they were very focused on that would

38:35

have been good. Yeah,

38:37

it would have been great, and it would have it would have actually,

38:40

you know, taken Betsy's character to the next

38:42

level. But it was Alan again, which again he

38:45

nailed it, of course, but that went through my head,

38:47

was like, break

38:49

the Betsy character here, break the Amy

38:51

character here, and they just didn't. The answer is,

38:53

I think a lot of male writers and

38:55

a lot of boy p o V and

38:59

the that boy on our show, the boy p o

39:01

V was very heavy, heavily

39:03

reliant on his relationship with his father more

39:06

so than teacher, and his male

39:08

teacher and his hand and you

39:14

know what that is what it is. I

39:17

don't know why that hit me, but I was like, man, I would have

39:19

broken the Amy character. Yeah, okay, I don't

39:21

want to. I don't really want to break this open,

39:24

but man, it felt like a sideyard. Okay,

39:28

I was going to bring it up. I don't want to. I

39:30

didn't want to get into a fight with anyone here. I

39:32

was like, wait, where are the mums? Where's

39:35

the car? Well, okay, the

39:37

same thing. There got a lot of

39:39

questions about how she pulled up and came in. Did

39:42

you say that when she ran she

39:44

ran out? And did I thought if she went to the

39:46

right downstage, you know,

39:48

toward camera, that then it could

39:50

have been a side yard, like that's where she pulled

39:53

up, because he's talked about the moms being right

39:55

there in the area where we do those scenes over the fence.

39:57

But instead she ran toward the back

40:00

the treehouse, free house. She ran upstage

40:02

toward the treehouse, which makes

40:04

all that

40:06

means that her car was probably either

40:09

in the front of Penny's house, like further to exactly,

40:11

like maybe there's a driveway that back, yes,

40:14

camera right, Okay. I always

40:16

thought it was a sideyard my life,

40:19

Okay, and then I but I was like, I'm gonna watch this

40:21

episode, I'm gonna see I'm gonna try to do the math on

40:23

this. Listen. The truth is it's

40:25

a very weirdly designed set up

40:28

because the writer says the

40:30

front door of the Matthews house

40:32

where Rue McClanahan walked into thunderous applause

40:35

is directly opposite that back

40:37

door, which means that is a backyard.

40:39

However, there are also double

40:41

doors in the living room that go

40:43

out to somewhere, So what does that

40:46

go out? And I'm picturing, so

40:48

like when I'm picturing, looking at it,

40:50

just as like my brains just filling

40:53

it in. It's like I'm seeing I'm

40:55

looking from the front, right, that's what you

40:57

think, right, But they're looking from the front

40:59

of the house, right, like my brains filling

41:01

in that wall. That makes

41:04

sense because they're coming in. But I also

41:06

know many people use the side door to enter their home, so it's

41:08

like this is not uncommon, so

41:10

maybe front

41:12

door it feels like a front

41:14

it's red. Yeah to

41:18

me, it's also to me it just in

41:20

my head. Maybe it's an East Coast thing, you

41:23

know, different than a West Coast thing. But are

41:25

we never call somebody who lived behind us

41:27

our neighbor. It's like I live

41:29

next to my teacher, he's my neighbor. That

41:31

to me, everybody everyone,

41:35

Okay, Never it's always like, oh no, they

41:37

live behind us, or they're my neighbor. That's

41:39

always how we would say it. This episode

41:41

kind of changed it for me where I was like, it's a backyard,

41:44

but I was also wanting to defence ever get

41:46

higher. I was so surprised a byt Hello. Defence

41:48

was the whole time there the

41:50

whole time, right, it was they wanted an intimate

41:52

neighborly relationship. It really is also

41:55

a tiny backyard. I mean that's if that's the

41:57

backyard, it's that's true. Yeah, I

42:00

think it's let's let's be honest. It's the nineties. It

42:02

was whatever was convenient in the moment. We

42:07

were ruying anything. So um, we

42:11

get this amazing scene. We

42:13

get this amazing scene with with Alan

42:15

and Corey, and then the Winnebago

42:17

shows up again. We hear lakukaracha. Grandma

42:20

comes in and tells Corey that something came up. He

42:22

says it's okay that they didn't go. Eric

42:24

then runs in and says, quick,

42:27

dad, if Phoenie comes in here, I've been in my room

42:29

for the last twenty minutes. Sure enough, Phoenie

42:32

comes walking in and he says that Eric

42:34

and his hormones need to stay

42:37

inside the house. And

42:39

Grandma stands up and and says, I

42:41

will vouch that he's been in his room, and

42:44

um, Phenie says, well, that's impossible because your car

42:47

just ran over my mom's and

42:50

that's pretty much the end. She runs

42:53

out to go, I guess what, run over more

42:55

of hers more. She wants to run over

42:57

more more of the moms. Yeah. I would love to

42:59

have seen some type

43:01

of real scene, not just that, but like a

43:03

real scene between Bill

43:05

Daniels and Rue McClanahan, I know,

43:08

just old school actors,

43:10

Like some scene of just the two of them, to

43:12

me would have been awesome. I wonder

43:14

what their relationship was. I wonder if they knew each other before.

43:17

I don't know, just knowing

43:19

the how small Hollywood is, especially

43:21

back then, I wouldn't be surprised if they had

43:23

worked together and knew each other. But that seemed like a

43:25

missed opportunity for me. And I understand that it's a kid

43:27

show and you know, two older people on some

43:30

might not whatever, but that to me as an

43:32

actor, I was like, man, I would love to have seen them, you know,

43:35

something more than what their characters would

43:37

have been good with each other because

43:39

she was like three wheeling and having fun. That's

43:41

why I wondered After watching that, I was like, I wonder

43:43

if she was supposed to be recurring, and like I wonder

43:45

why that didn't happen because she was such a

43:48

great character. She could have gone at odds. I

43:50

mean, she could have been at odds with anybody on the show, So I wouldn't

43:52

be surprised if they tried. Yeah, I mean that's one of those

43:54

negotiation things, like she paid

43:57

a certain amount and then she was like, I'm good. I'm good.

44:00

Then our tag Corey and Shaun around the bed,

44:02

admiring Corey's baseball card the grandma got

44:04

him from a swap meat, and Sean

44:06

says that his grandma must really love him because

44:09

that car card is about a hundred and fifty

44:11

dollars, and Corey realizes

44:13

that it's possible she killed

44:15

a man in Reno just to watch him die. Um.

44:19

This made me laugh though, because anyone

44:21

who knows right or strong, the idea

44:24

that he has baseball

44:26

card knowledge at his fingertips

44:29

is so not rider

44:32

that I would have had at this point. I would have had garbage

44:34

pale kid knowledge. That was the only card I

44:36

ever collected, as I had a big

44:38

garbage pale kid collection. I organized

44:40

it. I thought it would be worth money. Someday it probably

44:42

would be worth money, and I can't find it no way

44:45

where it was. They are actually worth it, They are right. I should

44:47

have kept them. And then Magic the Gathering cards

44:49

came later, not at this point, but I would have been collecting

44:51

magic within no, wait, at this point, it probably was

44:53

already. It was probably by then, yeah,

44:56

because I know I was an unlimited I bought.

44:59

I bought my first paxtor an unlimited Magic the Gathering.

45:01

So if somebody wants to backdate that and find out,

45:03

um, so I would have been playing magic. This

45:05

was November of ninety three. I think I was already playing

45:07

magic, all right. Anyway, those are the cards I would have cared

45:10

about. That was so funny, Rider talking like, no, this

45:12

card cal Ripken. He had

45:14

to look up what cal Ripken even was. Writer,

45:17

your hair is glorious in this scene.

45:20

It's really got a lot going on. I was like, actually

45:22

pretty surprised by it because I

45:25

felt like I remembered it more as a straight mushroom

45:27

situation, but it

45:29

had like death and

45:31

coral and it's

45:33

really where I noticed they straightened

45:36

his hair with the round brush and it

45:39

was so shiny. It was

45:41

it was really and it was long. I felt like maybe you needed

45:43

a hair cut here, but it looked great. Yeah,

45:46

it's really it was really classics. It was

45:48

really great. Well, Lauren,

45:51

Um, I'm so thankful that you were

45:53

here with us this week. And where

45:55

can we find you? Where can we watch

45:57

you? Also? I want to talk to you really briefly. You have

46:00

an animated show coming up, right, Crimes?

46:03

Can you tell us about that? Yeah? It's really

46:05

fun. It's um, it's me and Nicole

46:07

Buyer, who is one of my good friends

46:09

and also is just so Hilarious's also the host of Nailed

46:11

It if people watch that on Netflix. But um,

46:14

she's on five trillion shows. I think she had five billboards

46:16

unventur at the same time. Recently. I was like, this is

46:18

not fair, what's happening?

46:21

Um, But she deserves it. But we

46:23

are it's like a it's like a send up

46:25

at like SVU and stuff like that. So it's like we're

46:28

detectives solving crimes, but we're really

46:30

raunchy and like you know, nasty women.

46:33

It's really fun. Um can

46:36

see you? Where can we find you? Tell us your socials?

46:39

Give us all that information. You can find me on

46:41

Twitter and Instagram at Lauren lap Kiss and

46:43

my podcast Threedom and Newcomers

46:46

that I do with Nicole Buyer, where we watch things we've

46:48

never seen. We've been covering all of the Marvel

46:50

cinematic universe and mercifully it's

46:52

coming to an end soon and I cannot wait so

46:56

much. Yeah.

46:58

Yeah, we watched twenty watched twenty movies.

47:02

Um, there's twenty seven though, so we're not watch

47:04

really did you watch them in chronological

47:07

or or release date? Chronology or

47:09

release date? Yeah,

47:12

not chronological, So I'm sure there's back.

47:14

Yeah, there's a whole formula for starting with

47:16

Captain America. You're

47:19

gonna have to go back and do it again. Then, okay,

47:23

good, you're a fan, you love that stuff. I mean,

47:25

I'm getting into it. I'm I'm finding a

47:27

lot of joy um where I can. But I'm

47:30

so glad my son hates all things

47:32

Marvel and that has just made my life so much easier.

47:36

We did Star Wars for an episode and I was like, if

47:38

I have children who love Star Wars, I guess

47:40

at least I'll know what this is now because I've been avoiding my entire

47:42

life and I'm afraid but you had never seen the original

47:45

Star Wars New Hope, so

47:48

you really were more of a TV kid huh yeah,

47:50

oh yeah yeah, and there's a fantasy

47:53

yeah. Um. But

47:55

anyways, so yeah, those are my podcasts and then I

47:57

don't know, you can just watch me on random show Good

47:59

Girls all streaming on Netflix, and I really enjoyed

48:01

being on that show. And my movie The Wrong Missy it's on

48:03

Netflix. And that's that's it.

48:06

We'll see what happens next. You're just You're so

48:08

talented and I love you and I love being a mom of

48:10

you with you me too. Lauren

48:13

has the cutest baby girl who's about

48:15

to be one. I still need to rspp to your party. We're

48:17

coming. Oh yeah, oh good great? Um

48:19

yeah, and you have the cutest children in the world. And it's

48:21

been so great having you guide me in so many

48:24

moments with new baby. Oh my god, it's crazy

48:26

babies. Alright, Well, um,

48:29

thank you for listening. You can follow us at

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48:37

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48:39

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48:46

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48:48

you let me know which one is your favorite. We'll make sure

48:50

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48:53

uh yeah, and Lauren, you know, also, just thank

48:55

you so much for this. Was your idea for us to start

48:57

this podcast, and it's really

49:00

when out there a few years

49:02

ago after that con,

49:05

I was like, you know, people don't know that,

49:07

but it was really Lawren's idea. So

49:09

thank you for this, and um, you're so

49:11

welcome and I'm so glad you're doing it and

49:14

my royalties. Yeah,

49:21

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49:24

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