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Welcome to Pod Watcher, the

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official podcast of Watcher Entertainment.

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I'm Ryan Bergara. I'm Shane Ledecky. And

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I'm Stephen Lin. And this is a show where we talk about

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whatever is on our minds every week. This

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week, we dive into the Golden Bachelor.

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Coffee. And birthdays. What

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what what episode is this? The fourth?

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The fourth episode of Pod Watcher? This is where we finally get really

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comfortable. This is where we let things slip that

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we shouldn't. Hmm. That'll be

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bad. Ha ha ha ha ha.

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How was your guys weekend, by the way? Starting there.

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Yeah. Hmm. This is we're filming this on a Monday. What

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did I do? Which is nice because people are going to be

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listening to this on a Monday. I had a weekend.

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Oh, yeah. What'd you do? I've been gone.

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I was in Miami. Whoa. I

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had a bad experience in Miami for some

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reason. I think it's I don't think it's indicative

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of how cool the place is. I think I just had a bad

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trip there. Yeah, probably because

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it was pretty sick. Oh, nice. What'd you do? Uh,

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so we went on this trip because, um,

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Seemu wanted to get his Canadian friends and U.S.

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friends and bring them all together. Yeah. In Florida.

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In Florida. Nice. And we had a little bit

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of like a sports off. So we played like

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flag football and basketball.

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And this sounds like the worst. Soccer.

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That sounds pretty fun. You know, and then and then we went

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out and had nice dinners and had a good time. But

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the most

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interesting part of any injuries, by the way. Oh,

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my gosh. He tore his Achilles. Who did?

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Seemu. No, he didn't. I'm not kidding.

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Are you fucking serious? Yeah. Dude.

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Yeah. Wait, I don't know why I'm laughing. It's actually

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it was it was horrible. Wait a second.

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Are we allowed to put that in the podcast? Yeah, no, he you

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know, he he posted this morning about it. God.

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Wait, which which was a flag football or basketball? It was

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basketball. And this is so

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the craziest thing is when when that happens, like

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it's a noncontact. Yeah, it is.

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And he was just running. Did he do the thing? Did he

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say the thing where he thought someone kicked him in the back? Yes.

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He was like, who? He's like, who hit me?

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Yeah. And we were like, oh, nobody touched

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you. And then that's what we knew that's

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the worst that's the hell-tale sign Kobe

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said that when he tore his Achilles What he thought somebody

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kicked him and Kevin Durant said the same thing,

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too He's like also when just kicked me and now

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what if I ever feel like someone kicked me while I'm running

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I'm gonna be like oh fuck. It's over.

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Yeah, I Was it

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mean when that happens when you snap

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your Achilles it's a rupture

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that in your leg I got right here. It's the back

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of the heel. It's the back thing right here connects your

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calf I believe to your foot so

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when you're running like a rubber band essentially

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So when you're running the actual force of it snapping

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set feels like the sensation of someone kicking

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you in the back of the leg And then all of a sudden you can't really

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move your foot. Mmm. That's bad

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Yeah, that was it was that bad. Um, but

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he took it. I mean like he took it like a champ He

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like was super chill about it. We finished

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the weekend off We

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even went to a nightclub and last night

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he was in a boot We were just all walking

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around it I would not have done guarding him

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I Wouldn't I would have been in like

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a hospital bed or something like that? I don't

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know Yeah, he just kind of wanted

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it still be a great trip, which it was it was

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a wonderful trip So wow, that's actually one of

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my worst fears is snapping my Achilles just

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because I've seen it happen so many times now Yeah,

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especially as you get into your 30s. Well, that's

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why they say like and and sorry to talk about

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sports Oh, I'll stop the sports talk, but

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that's why they say like it you got to get in

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the golf Well, I think this is an interesting

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jumping off point. You gotta get I don't know This is so

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much I talk about sports as it is like

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aging it is. Yeah, because that's why

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I actually don't Play

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basketball that much anymore because I'm too scared

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of getting injured. It's not worth it at this point Because

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I can't move around I mean,

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I may think I can move around the way I used

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to be able to in my 20s and maybe I can but Maybe

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not for a long amount of time before I

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injure myself because I'm pretty injury-prone

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now. Oh, yeah Like I've sprained my

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ankles. I think eight

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times on both ankles. I got in the hospital like

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three to four times for it It's

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all basket Yeah, you shouldn't move well the

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thing is like I have like a playing style. That's

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conducive to getting injured a speck attacking

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the rim Also like I'm a smaller

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dude, so when I jump and I'm up in

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the air for a long time Yeah, you're

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up there forever. It's a lot

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of time. This is a little known fact about

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Ryan. He's actually athletic and Megan

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jump I Mean you used to be able

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to dunk. I'm like what forage

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is taller than you probably Things what three

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and three or four yeah, and you can probably reach

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like four or five inches higher than I can well I

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can't I can't dunk anymore, but I could still

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grab the rim. I just can't dunk anymore Okay, maybe

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not four or five inches But

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the thing is when you're up that high and you're a smaller

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dude It gives a lot of opportunity for people

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to go under you so they could undercut you or you just land

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on a foot from That high up and it

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really fucking hurts like I can't believe I'm

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not broken my ankle yet But

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I made it out. I haven't broken a bone before don't

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say that now you're gonna jinx yourself. That's true The

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whole the whole weekend. I was scared I was

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having nightmares actually leading up to it that somebody wasn't

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injured themselves and whoa Oh, you have a sixth sense or something?

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Well, mostly it was just me like Terry my my

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ACL people tear their Achilles getting

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out of bed though Like yeah, I'm free

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guys a freak actually It's not really something that it

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wasn't you know his fault or anything

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you can't control it You could happen to me you could just run

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you could be walking and it just just pops No

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one really understands why it happens like in

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terms of like the circumstances. I don't

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think it could happen to me I think it could know

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because you've you've injured yourself walking

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by just tripping Yeah, I tripped and

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fell I I've injured myself recently

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by just standing. That's how hard

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were we kidding I actually injured myself recently

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by ending know by shifting my position in

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bed I shifted from my I'm a side sleeper

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So I see I shifted from the left side to

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the right side and I think I did it a little too Aggressively

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and I just turned I over rotated

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a little bit and I felt a twinge

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in my right shoulder And I think I think

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I fucked up my rotator cuff. Oh, oh And

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I had to come to the kind of sobering

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realization that I'm now at the age

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where I injure myself sleeping. I

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think you guys have ruined your bodies with

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sports because you're both about

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five years younger than me. That's true. And

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when I was, even now, I think my body

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doesn't seem to give me as many problems as

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it has been giving you for the past five

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years of your life. Yeah, because you've lived in existence,

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wrapped essentially in bubble wrap. Yeah,

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basically. I think so. I've just been in

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VR town with a headset on. Nothing's

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back and happened to him there. And

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honestly, it's probably for the best. If

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I could go back in time, I'd thank my mom for not

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letting me play football. I'd have arthritis

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in all my joints and everything. I don't think you'd be a good

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football guy. I'm actually the right

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height for a running back, which is the position I played in flag

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football. Because I played football middle school

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on our team. Tackle?

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They didn't allow tackle. You played tackle football? They

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did not allow tackle at middle school level. But then in high school, the

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next progression is tackle football. But you

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need to have a permission slip signed by your parent because

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it's a contact sport and obviously super

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dangerous. And so if I were to transfer,

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I'd be in the same position. I'd

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be a running back. Because running backs are all around

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my height and it's harder to tackle

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them. Yeah, most people don't really

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care about football at all.

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Although flag football was just added to the Olympic

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games. You guys see that? I didn't

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see that. I like football. I like football. And

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so all of these NFL players are trying to come out

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of retirement and be like, hey, Rob Gronkowski. Would

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you still watch the NFL if it was flag football?

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I would. No, I wouldn't. I think

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flag football is fun to watch still. It's fun to play.

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I don't think I need to see people get tackled. Maybe

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that's a hot take. I don't think that's part of the

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reason why I like football. They've

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done a good job of eventizing

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watching sports. That's the thing. It's

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the modern day Coliseum event.

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Well you have a Sunday. They own Sundays. Whereas

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basketball and baseball, they

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made the mistake of it being kind of like, well going

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to be this week. It's going to be a couple days this week. Whereas

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football, you could get people to wrap their mind

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around like, okay, I'm going to spend a day watching

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football. What do you have anything like that? Shane,

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that's event eyes. Like there's, is there something you do

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every week? The Gilded

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Age is starting up again soon on HBO. I

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haven't checked that out. I've talked to you

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about this offline, those kind of period

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dramas. Yeah. They

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always kind of feel like the same fun. This one's great.

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It's got Carrie Kuhn and

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Carrie Kuhn is just playing a,

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her character

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is just a nasty woman, I think basically.

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She's a rich, nasty woman and she hates

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everyone. Nice.

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And a lot of times the show just pushes in on her

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face. Like when someone bests

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her in some way or she feels slighted, she'll

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just be like, So

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it's like house wise. Yeah, kind

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of. It's very funny. I really like it. Can

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I ask you a question, Shane? Yeah. About

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shows that you like? Well, what about them? Well,

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like what are your, what is your rating system?

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And maybe you don't have like a formalized

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one, but like, how do you decide if you like a show

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or not? Because sometimes I feel like you like

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a show just because it makes you laugh in a weird way. And I'm

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like, well, that's a bad show. That's such a strange

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question. I don't know. No, I think it's, if it

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keeps my attention, I don't know.

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You care about continuity. You

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care about like technical, like, like writing,

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like what it, like what matters to you? I think

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it's the whole package. Really? I think you're pretty open

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minded when it comes to content. There's like a

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lot of things that appeal to you. I like to look into

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stuff that I don't know about or

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like, you know, yeah, I like to dabble with

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stuff that seems like something I wouldn't like or

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that I'm not used to. Um, I don't know.

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I've got a pretty varied palette though. This,

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this is actually a good segue into something I did want to

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talk about and I forgot about it. Have you,

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are you guys watching Golden Bachelor? I

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started it. Dude, it is incredible. What? No, wait,

9:51

wait, what? So can you explain? Do

9:53

you watch The Bachelor at all or no? I've seen

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maybe two episodes or two

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show two season. Wow,

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that's crazy. Wow, great. He looks like

10:03

when you go to the bachelors. Yeah,

10:05

yeah. People get in rows, he loses it. Maybe two full seasons

10:07

of it. And I actually

10:10

really enjoyed the one season of Bachelor in

10:12

Paradise that I watched. But then it's like, it kind of

10:14

gets old, so I stopped watching that. I've never gone on

10:16

the Bachelor in Paradise train. You've never gone on the...

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Oh, I thought you... I know some people actually like

10:21

Bachelor in Paradise more. They only watch the

10:23

bachelors so they could understand the characters. That's

10:26

where they just hang around and smooch, right? And

10:28

I'm not there for the smooching, I'm there for the storylines

10:30

and the love. Every Bachelor

10:32

season has some stupid ass... They

10:34

have tropes that they do. There's usually

10:36

some sort of villain that they

10:38

will find. And then the producers will just make it

10:40

seem like this person that the war is on earth. Yeah, yeah.

10:43

Okay, so the Golden Bachelor, what is the premise of that? The

10:45

old man. It's an older man. Oh! So

10:49

he's like... On a bunch of golden beddies. He's

10:52

like 70, I think, or 69. Wait. He's 69

10:54

years old. I gotta see this now. I really... You

10:57

got me. It's really heartwarming. It's good. It

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gets you right off the bat. Yeah. Widow.

11:03

A widow. He locked his wife to cancer. Or a widower.

11:06

The story was so... A widow's a lady. A

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widow's a lady? No, a widow's a man as well.

11:10

A widower. What?

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I guess... A widower sounds

11:15

like you died and caused somebody to be widowed. A widower

11:18

does sound like you've killed someone. Yeah, like

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a murderer. Yeah. A widower, they'd say

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a widower if it's like a... Can

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I pull up a photo? I wanna see this. This is what this

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man is like. Oh, he's a great looking guy. They'd saved

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up. They bought her dream house on

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the water and then she got sick

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like a month into the house and

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then she passed away. And

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so there's this package they filmed. They always do

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these little packages at the beginning to let you know what

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the guy... Like what his life is and how he got

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here. Sometimes it's a big package. Yeah,

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for him, I won't. Could

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I explain what happened to this man's wife?

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Oh my god. He's 72? He

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looks great, right? He does not look 72. You're

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not looking at Jesse Palmer, are you? No, no, I'm not. I'm

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not. Paul Mer who follows us

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on Instagram like that. What? That dude is an absolute

12:03

fucking you Jesse we're big fans. He also hosts

12:05

a lot of those baking challenge. He also

12:08

calls football games sometimes. Oh,

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we have seen him on there. Oh, is that Jesse

12:12

Palmer? He should be the only person

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we allow to be a guest on this show. Why

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is that? I don't know. It feels like a good

12:19

rule. I was thinking we'd have some employees and stuff

12:21

on. No, well. But anyways, yeah, like he, there's

12:23

like a footage, this footage of him like standing on the balcony,

12:25

just kind of he's like, I didn't, I

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got this dream home for her. And then now it's me

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here alone. It just feels wrong. Oh my God.

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He's an emotional guy. He wears hearing aids. And

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then they parade out

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the women. And this is where it's

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interesting. Now I gotta see the women. Check

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out the women. They're all in their twenties. Oh,

12:45

wait, are you serious? No, I'm just kidding. Oh

12:47

my God. Wouldn't that be really funny though? That would

12:49

be accurate for

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what's portrayed in, you know, in media.

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But no, luckily they're all around like their mid

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to late sixties though also,

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and here's my one issue with the show. I find

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it very heartwarming and I do love

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the message. It's trying to send it that you can have a second

13:06

chance at love and all that in, you know, but

13:09

here we go. I find it pretty tough

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to watch these old folks

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get their heart broken on live

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tell our national television. You

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know what? I feel like when you're that old, your heart's like

13:21

an old junk, you know, junk

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box. Yeah, that's the perception.

13:26

They're through it all. That's the perception

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they're trying to break in that when you get become an

13:31

older person, you're still a person. Wait, what is the

13:33

minimum? They have to be 60 years

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old. Yeah. There's one on there who's like 60 and

13:38

all the other ones are like, I think she got eliminated

13:41

though. The young one. Yeah. But there was one that 64 and

13:43

that's like the youngest one. I think

13:45

while they do not. Okay.

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They found like the youngest

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looking 60 plus year olds though.

13:52

Take it easy over there. Oh wow.

13:55

Look at their skin. It looks pretty great. They

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look like they're nice folks. They're

13:59

sweet. There's there's oh, it's there's some really sweet

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women Stephen's following all them on Instagram

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in our good times, baby back to

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uh, the bachelor The problem

15:51

I have is it's just really tough because

15:54

I would say 75 or

15:57

higher of the female contestants Are

16:00

widowers like their husbands have died. Well,

16:02

they're widower. They're widows. They're widows. Oh, yeah,

16:05

they're widows Widow what is

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what we're not a word It's

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a man. Oh Yeah, widower is

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a man. I don't know why they have to gender

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it. That's so weird. I'm sure I'm sure that's on the

16:17

way out I'm sure the people don't use that we'll all

16:19

just be widows someday, you know, I mean no,

16:21

I mean I I hope we go first Oh,

16:23

I've told Mario already. I'm gonna die first Yeah,

16:26

I might I might take that would you like was she

16:28

cool with that or was she like I hate when I say that I

16:31

think the ideal way though would be Sort

16:33

of a Titanic situation. Oh,

16:35

we all die in the same Me and Sarah

16:38

holding hands in bed as the frozen

16:40

waters of the oh man I've

16:43

had like this has been like a very recurring

16:46

fear Lately on

16:48

the tour because Shane and I when it's

16:50

all said and done we'll get out after the tour We

16:53

will have been on something like 60 to 70 flights

16:56

over the course of two to three months Yeah, and

16:58

I was just thinking of the math of that. I was like, I don't

17:01

think that many. Yeah No, no because

17:03

transfers. Yeah, I guess so, huh? You

17:05

think that's two separate planes per leg?

17:08

Oh, yeah, you're right So because the number

17:10

without the transfers is 41 Interesting

17:13

man one because you're going there and

17:15

also there and down and but then

17:17

if you count the The layovers

17:20

which we always have layovers Those

17:22

will you know that pups it up to about 70 to 80? Damn

17:26

plus all the ghost files ones where you get kovat and

17:28

you go there come back and go. Yeah It's crazy

17:30

and I was just doing the math and I was like One

17:32

of these wonderful these is gonna crash It

17:36

actually happened recently at the airport Because

17:39

Mari was with us on one of the legs and

17:41

there's just so many flights that I forgot

17:43

to book One of Mari's connecting

17:45

flights and I was like, oh my god. And

17:47

so Mari we at the airport I had to

17:49

book her another flight that

17:52

was separate from ours, but arrived at the same

17:54

time And we did that at the airport

17:56

and as we were on the plane, I had this horrible

17:59

anxiety intrusive thought where I was

18:01

like, oh my god, what if Mari's

18:03

plane goes down and it's all my fault

18:06

because I forgot to book that connecting flight or

18:08

vice versa if our flight goes

18:10

down and she's spared

18:12

because

18:13

of my mistake.

18:17

For two hours on that flight, I was in just

18:19

spin mode. I was fully spinning out. I

18:22

could not get over the idea that my wife was going to

18:24

be dead when I landed. When

18:27

I ... Yeah. I can't get over

18:29

that. She also arrived seven minutes before ours, allegedly.

18:32

When I landed, I texted her and I was

18:34

like, hey, just landed expecting her to get

18:36

back to me because she would have already been on the ground and she

18:39

did not respond within 10 to 15 minutes. Then

18:41

I was really worried. Yeah, you can check her flight too.

18:44

That's true. Yeah. Funny

18:47

word that they used leg for the flight.

18:49

A leg of the two words? A flight leg, right. Yeah,

18:52

that's pretty funny. Let's unpack

18:54

that. One thing before we unpack that,

18:57

I think we should ... I mean, I don't want to laugh at your

18:59

anxiety at all because it's totally real.

19:03

My wife also has plain anxiety too. Yeah.

19:06

But you can't control that. You

19:09

can't live like that where you're responsible

19:11

for your wife's death because she booked a different flight.

19:14

You would have been responsible. No. I

19:16

actually kind of would have. No, you wouldn't have.

19:19

But this is also just the life of having an anxiety

19:21

disorder. You kind of live in

19:23

these weird little spirals that happen throughout the

19:25

day. You just kind of get used to them. It's pretty funny when we got

19:27

to the airport and Mario was like,

19:29

where's my ticket? And you were like ...

19:33

Your reaction was sort of like that when

19:35

Mark Ruffalo spoiled End

19:38

Game in the interviews and he

19:40

was like, oh, what? Because

19:44

you were like, I think it's in your

19:46

email. You know what's crazy

19:49

too is like, you know when you have that feeling like, I think

19:51

I forgot something. Yeah. And

19:53

then you don't know what it is. And then maybe hours

19:55

later, someone will say something like, I forgot

19:57

my toothpaste. And you're like, oh, toothpaste.

20:00

That's what I forgot. Yeah, it was that as

20:02

soon as she said or ticket. I knew

20:05

Immediately like oh shit. I have

20:07

fucked up in a very big way here So you

20:10

you guys landed in the connecting airport and

20:12

you realized she hadn't she didn't have the next

20:15

flight No, I it was the first flight like so

20:17

like because these are all one-way trips Like

20:20

so you go to Minnesota? I

20:24

had forgotten one of the one-way trips anyways

20:27

back to the Golden Bachelor though It's just it's because

20:30

they're all widows and they've already

20:32

experienced the worst amount of heartbreak Yeah,

20:35

they have to kind of watch them get rejected

20:37

on life. They're choosing to be there Yeah,

20:39

it's so sad though because they're signed

20:42

up for it. They're all I laugh I laugh and

20:44

laugh and laugh here You're you're you're an evil man.

20:46

They're there They

20:49

know what they're signing up for often give these

20:51

women some agency Ryan Yeah, but they'll

20:53

say things like to him like you know, I really didn't

20:55

think I was able to fall in love again and and

20:58

You've now woken me up to that to that possibility

21:00

And but also and then he's

21:03

like how how many buying into this they

21:05

meet this guy for two days That's

21:07

the weird thing on those shows. I don't buy that. I think

21:09

I'm falling for you No But

21:11

I don't I don't I don't buy that for the

21:14

younger bachelors But for the older ones because

21:16

they're often they're like I haven't gone on a day since my

21:18

husband died And so if you're going on your first

21:20

date in like 20 years Yeah, and

21:22

then you start to feel things and then they'll

21:24

be like I'm really starting to feel this connection and

21:26

he goes yes And then he like so

21:29

he starts to smooch him Yeah, they've been

21:31

on that and then they cut to a scene of him with it someone

21:33

else Yeah, they're gonna

21:35

smooches someone else and it just kind of like it's

21:37

just throwing me off It's actually other smooches

21:39

good. What is that? Oh, I

21:42

think you know because they're experienced smooches Really,

21:44

you know, they're even gonna watch the show at point five speed

21:48

Learn how to smooch from these golden Betty's

21:50

the It's

21:56

a touching show. I wonder if this is

21:58

in line with the sort of thing you hear

22:00

about retirement homes and their

22:02

issues. Oh, there's a lot of STDs

22:04

right there. They're bad boys. Yeah, they're STDs issues. Because

22:07

they're going to Bangtown. They go to Boing Boing City

22:09

with each other regularly. No, no, no. Don't

22:12

mix that up because a Shaboying Boing is the name for a hot dog.

22:15

Over the weekend, I was at home. Mari

22:18

and I had perhaps taken an edible. We were

22:21

watching something and I can't

22:23

recall who sent me the meme. I think it was

22:25

my brother. And it was a guy

22:28

who took a picture of a hot

22:30

dog. You texted this to me at 1am. I was

22:32

brushing my teeth and I almost spit. Dude,

22:36

my brother sent me this meme and it's

22:38

a picture of a guy holding a hot dog bun. But

22:40

inside the bun are two hot dogs

22:42

and the caption, and I was reading this while I was

22:45

like laying in bed 1 o'clock

22:47

in the morning, Mari's sleeping next to me. And

22:50

I did that thing where something made me laugh so hard and I

22:52

couldn't laugh. So I tried to silently laugh. And

22:55

the whole bed was just convulsing because I was crying,

22:58

laughing, trying to stifle this laughter. It

23:01

was a picture of a hot dog bun with two hot dogs

23:03

in it and it said something like, damn,

23:05

dude. It's

23:08

like about to go to Glizzy Town. No, it was

23:10

like about to go to Glizzy Town by seeing a double barreled

23:12

Shaboying Boing with no condiments is crazy.

23:17

Double barreled Shaboying Boings with no condiments

23:19

is insane.

23:20

Double

23:22

barreled Shaboying Boings.

23:27

I love that. I'm going to

23:29

start saying that all the time because I know

23:31

Glizzy is like the typical kind of nomenclature

23:34

for hot dogs. I feel like, like,

23:37

oh, let me get one of those Shaboying Boings. That's

23:40

like referring to hot dogs as that is

23:43

on the same part. And let me get a honk

23:45

that sweet Bobo. Honk that sweet

23:47

Bobo if you didn't realize that's when you

23:49

refer to getting a puff, a little puff

23:52

Rooney of a joint. That's right. Oh,

23:54

I didn't know that. So like if I were like, I gotta get a Shaboying

23:56

Boing and let me get a honking that sweet Bobo before it is

23:58

because I want to. nice and prime

24:01

for my double barrel Shaboyng-boying. I've

24:03

never done a double barrel Shaboyng-boying,

24:05

but I don't think there's any need for

24:07

it. I've never had the idea to

24:09

do that. Neither have I, because it

24:12

feels crazy. But it sounds awesome

24:14

now that I'm thinking about it. Structurally, I don't

24:16

think it makes sense to do. Well, structurally, it

24:18

actually might make more sense, because you could put condiments

24:20

in between the two hot dogs.

24:22

I don't think, I don't think, no. I

24:25

kind of think a triple barrel. Now,

24:27

triple barrel is a bit. No, no. Think

24:30

about it. If the hot dog bun is like this,

24:32

a double barrel's only

24:34

going to be like one, two, but then you could do one, two,

24:36

three. But I think a good hot dog bun

24:38

is actually pretty small. I

24:41

don't want a big, when people have like

24:43

those rolls, you know, like I don't

24:46

want that. Look, you already know

24:48

this about me, but I fucking

24:51

love hot dogs. Yeah, me too. They're

24:53

one of my favorite foods on earth. They really bring me joy.

24:55

For a while in my youth, my employment

24:58

really was focused on places

25:01

where I could eat free hot dogs. Get some Shaboyin'

25:03

Boings for free. My first job was at a soccer

25:05

park where we made hot dogs all day

25:08

and ate hot dogs all day. And

25:10

then in the summers, I worked at a ballpark where

25:12

I also ate hot dogs all day and gained

25:15

like 10 pounds. No way you were driven by eating

25:17

hot dogs. I mean- Was that

25:19

part of your application process?

25:21

It wasn't like on the surface, I needed

25:23

a job and a bunch of kids from our high

25:25

school work there. So it was

25:27

fun, but I ate a lot of hot dogs. And

25:30

I would, at the end of the night, they'd be like, we've got 80 hot

25:32

dogs left over. And I'd be like, I'll take 20.

25:34

It would bring them home. What are your top- Be

25:37

my neighbors. Top three places to eat a hot dog. Like

25:39

for me, I would say probably- Like a ballpark number.

25:42

Ballparks number one. Or outside of a game. Yeah,

25:45

ballpark number one, number two is probably on the beach.

25:48

Okay. Because I fucking- Have you ever grilled a hot

25:50

dog on the beach? Yeah, I've done that. Fucking

25:53

incredible. Okay. Where's your

25:55

third place? Anything on a beach though is pretty good. I

25:57

think my third place would probably be by a pool.

26:00

A little poolside shaboing boing. Yeah, that's

26:03

nice. It's incredible. Fucking

26:05

love hot dogs. I'll eat hot dogs anywhere. Oh,

26:08

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season. Welcome back. Let's

27:54

get back more into these hot dogs, these

27:56

shabung-bungs. I think, you know who also loves hot

27:59

dogs quite a bit? is Jay-Z. Okay.

28:02

Beyonce told this story about how Jay-Z

28:04

is obsessed with hot dogs and sometimes he eats

28:06

like four days. I could eat

28:09

four hot dogs easy. Oh, easy, but he does

28:11

it like after award shows. I like that. That's

28:13

a nice little treat. I have got it. I can't think

28:15

of the last time I had hot dogs at home. There's such a... I

28:17

don't think of it. I mean, like ever. You

28:19

also mentioned there's a hot dog place that you've been going

28:22

to recently. Yeah, there's a place in those fields called Special

28:24

Hot Dog. And actually, I think they might

28:26

have

28:27

temporarily stopped for

28:30

family issues or something, but yeah,

28:32

it's a great little pop up. Shout out to

28:34

Special Hot Dog. What's the hot dog say? Honestly,

28:37

it's more like a sausage. They make... I

28:39

don't know about that. Yeah, if you want

28:41

a full hot dog experience, it's kind of a different

28:44

vibe. But if

28:46

I want a hot dog, I'm going to Portillo's

28:49

or trying to think where else in LA

28:52

has hot dogs. Honestly, the

28:54

best hot dog you could get in LA is at the market.

28:57

Just grill it yourself. It's fucking amazing. At the market,

28:59

at the supermarket. I don't discriminate

29:01

when it comes to hot dogs too. I love

29:03

turkey dogs, pork, beef, vegan. Yeah,

29:05

they're all good. I love hot dogs. I don't

29:07

like the vegan ones. Those are weird. But you know, what

29:10

are they made out of? Carrots or something? The actual act of

29:12

it is, I don't know what they're made out of. Carrots.

29:15

They're probably a tempeh or some shit like that. Tempeh?

29:18

I have no idea. Or the tempeh? Is

29:20

that how you pronounce it? I don't know. I mean,

29:22

you're a vegan. Like the fake chicken. Okay.

29:25

Vegans are screaming at us right now. I love Nathan's,

29:28

you know? Dude, Nathan's Fox. Nathan's Fox. I

29:30

love a Vienna beef. Yeah. The

29:32

snap of the skin. That's what it's all about. The

29:34

snap. Do you get crazy with them sometimes? You

29:36

could do like that chicken and apples, like sausage

29:38

and fucking jalapeno dog. No, no, no,

29:41

no, no. I don't really like stuff. You

29:43

don't like brats. I don't like the call coming

29:45

from inside the house. There's a spot

29:48

on... Fuck. Where

29:50

is it? I think it's on La Brea.

29:51

You're not talking about

29:54

pinks, are you? No, I'm talking about

29:56

versed house. Though

29:58

it's spelled ver-

32:00

and not sign up for this. I love Benihana, we

32:02

could talk about that in a separate episode, good,

32:05

because that'll be a whole episode onto itself. We never

32:07

did the company-wide Benihana dinner.

32:10

We should do that at some point. Fuck, I

32:12

would love that. Mari

32:14

and I go to Benihana to celebrate career

32:17

milestones. That's the spot

32:19

you guys go to? We thought it would be funny. We did it first

32:21

as an ironic joke, and then we realized we both

32:23

just love Benihana, so we're like, you know, fuck it.

32:25

I love the ones where they bring it to your house. Where

32:28

they bring it to your house. Yeah,

32:31

they bring the grill and everything, and

32:34

they do it in your backyard. I've never done that, I've always

32:36

wanted it. It's amazing, you should do it for

32:38

your birthday. You should do it for your birthday. I think

32:40

for my birthday I'm gonna go to the... Told you

32:42

I saw Bob Sagat there once, right? Not

32:45

recently, I imagine, because that would mean that I'm right

32:47

about ghosts. By the way, I... I think

32:49

you made the same joke last time you said this, too. In

32:51

the Boston

32:55

episode of Food Files, I

32:57

laughed real hard watching the cut back. I

32:59

laughed as hard as I did in the moment when

33:01

that woman was like, JFK

33:03

used to go here, it was his favorite restaurant

33:06

in Boston, and then I

33:09

didn't think he'd just say something like, he doesn't do that

33:11

anymore. It really got me. That's...

33:16

Food Files has been a fun little watch. Adam

33:19

Bianchi is a little genius,

33:22

I love it. That's Mari's favorite show that we make. It's

33:24

her favorite show? Yeah, she

33:26

said this is her favorite show we've ever made. She

33:29

thinks there's just something like, kind of like... She

33:31

said there is a quote, Genesee Kwa to

33:34

Adam Bianchi's producing quality. I

33:36

mean, she's just a fan of Adam Bianchi. I think she's

33:38

just a fan of Adam Bianchi. There's

33:40

something about that show that's really good. I don't

33:42

know, it must be the person who made it. Yeah. Really

33:45

talented. He's very good at

33:47

what he does. My

33:49

favorite show that you guys make is one made by

33:51

somebody else. There was somebody else. He's got a point. Something

33:56

that you guys have nothing to do with it. We just show

33:58

up. Anyways... Let's move

34:00

on to Shane's topic of what

34:02

the fuck coffee coffee. I

34:05

got some coffee. Yeah.

34:08

And guess, guess where it's from. I asked him where

34:10

it's from this morning. One

34:12

of the topics in the first episode, Shane was

34:14

juice and then Shane went juice cause

34:17

he was drinking juice. I

34:19

bought some coffee from lazy acres. Oh,

34:21

you went back. Uh, it's no good.

34:25

It's no good. What, why, what

34:27

is this abusive relationship that you

34:29

started with this supermarket?

34:32

If people have listened to the third episode of this

34:35

pod, they'll remember Shane talking

34:37

about just chronicling his

34:39

issues and triumphs with this

34:42

one local supermarket, you wanted to grab

34:44

some cherry tomatoes, they didn't have them, but

34:46

then you kept going back. Shane and I did a tour

34:48

date on a couple of days

34:50

ago. Uh, we were in Texas

34:53

and in the green room, they gave us a veggie platter.

34:56

And inside the veggie platter were cherry

34:58

tomatoes and Shane made a point of looking

35:01

at me and going, they got cherry tomatoes and

35:03

he ate the cherry tomato. So it's something

35:05

that's on your mind. This, this supermarket has a

35:07

hold on you. Yeah. Well, it's,

35:10

um, even last, even

35:12

last night we were driving past it. Sarah and I went

35:14

out to dinner. I was driving past it. Yeah. I said,

35:16

please the acres pointed

35:19

it out. Throw a brick through the window or something. Well, I

35:21

don't know. Cause I go there. I showed the tape

35:23

to it, get cherry tomatoes. But this coffee

35:25

I bought there is really bad. Why

35:28

is it bad? Even like you're forced. It's like, I've

35:31

been in towns before. I live in towns where you're

35:34

forced to go to the grocery store. There's only two stores

35:36

out there. Yeah. There's we're in LA. There's

35:39

you probably pass a bevy of options stores

35:42

on the way. I mean, I pass a Gelson's

35:44

brother and yet you go

35:46

to lazy acres. Well, Gelson's is too

35:48

expensive. It's lazy acres. Like

35:50

very like I haven't bought enough there

35:53

to really clock what they're doing. Why

35:55

are you going back to this place over and

35:57

over again? I don't know. I'm very intrigued

35:59

by it. You know, it's got a welcoming atmosphere.

36:03

I got to go to this place. This is why I asked you

36:06

what you like about shows. I can't

36:08

wrap my head around like what you're drawn

36:11

to. And even with this

36:13

like... I don't even know. ...the scope of the debacle.

36:16

I like when a TV show

36:19

draws me in in ways that I can't even pinpoint.

36:21

And that's what Lazy Acres, it feels like, is doing

36:24

to you right now. They've done a lot in terms

36:26

of their aesthetic, you know. It's a nice

36:28

vibe in there. It's like one of the nicer Whole Foods. You

36:30

know, you've been to some Whole Foods where you're like... Yeah,

36:33

they're not trying. They're not trying. Yeah. This

36:36

one is... There's really a nice

36:38

vibe in there. They still don't have cherry tomatoes.

36:40

And by the way, that's... Or good coffee. I'll tell you what, those

36:42

cherry tomatoes in Texas, really

36:45

bad. They didn't taste

36:47

like anything. They're from a veggie platter from like Elbertsons

36:49

or something. You know, the carrots tasted

36:52

like carrots. The tomatoes didn't taste like anything. Actually, when I was

36:54

eating the tomatoes... When the carrots tasted like chips? When I

36:56

was eating the... You don't like carrots,

36:58

right? I hate the consistency. It's very... It

37:00

makes my tongue feel funny. Do you ever... Rawr.

37:05

Do you ever like peel a big one and then

37:07

eat it like a Bugs Bunny? Peel

37:09

a big one?

37:10

Peel a big one. You ever peel a big one? No. I

37:13

don't like carrots in general. The

37:15

Bugs Bunny thing I do, I do that with pickles.

37:18

He doesn't eat those. I know, but it makes

37:21

a similar crunch noise and I can pretend that it's a carrot.

37:23

Well, at that point, you're pretending to be the Velastics. Stork.

37:27

Not Bugs Bunny. The what? Oh, yeah. That's

37:30

a bit of pickle. Does kosher dill

37:32

have like a mascot?

37:35

I think like a little frog. Yeah. That's

37:38

cool. Yeah. He's a pickle frog.

37:40

It's not Pickle Rick.

37:42

Yeah, for all our

37:44

Rick and Morty heads up. There's

37:46

a Pickle Rick skin on Fortnite right now. Hey,

37:49

are you playing as it? It weighs you tiny though? No,

37:51

I think he's big. Because that would give you like an unfair

37:54

advantage. You know when you would play like Goldeneye and you'd

37:56

be Odd Job? Yeah.

37:57

I'll tell you what, oh,

37:59

tomorrow. Yeah, by the time this comes

38:01

in, this isn't exciting, but the Michael Myers

38:03

skin comes out. That is pretty cool. That

38:05

might be the thing. I can't wait to make him dance! Are

38:07

you... Are you buying the skins? You're

38:10

dropping cash. First, for my wedding, one

38:12

of my dear friends, Brian, gave

38:15

Sarah and I each $70

38:18

worth of V bucks. You know what? That's a really

38:20

good wedding gift. It was really good! Because

38:22

now we're like, oh, we can buy so much

38:24

on Fortnite. Because he's on our... You

38:27

know, Brian's fucked you for life now, though, because he's

38:29

given you a taste of having those bucks and

38:31

getting these skins. I mean... And once you run out of that money,

38:33

you're gonna be like buying skins. No, I'll go back

38:35

to what I was doing before, which was spending

38:38

my own money on skins. It's

38:41

a free game. It pays for itself. Does it?

38:43

Yeah. When you say it pays for itself,

38:45

doesn't that mean it gives you some sort of profit that's... Here's

38:48

the thing. I'm buying a skin once

38:50

every... Three

38:52

to five weeks. Yeah. Whoa,

38:55

that's actually pretty frequent. Could you explain what a skin

38:57

is for people who might not know what that is? It's

38:59

what you look like in the game. You know, so if I

39:01

want to be Ripley from Aliens or if I

39:03

want to be... It's like a costume,

39:05

if one could say that. It's like a costume.

39:08

For the Myers one, what does that look like? It looks like

39:10

Michael Myers from Halloween. But

39:14

the best part is you can then buy also

39:16

emotes. So my Mikey Myers is gonna

39:19

be doing, you know, Gagnon style. Yeah. Oh,

39:23

the Macarena? I don't

39:25

have the Macarena, but I'd like to get

39:27

it someday. That's good. We'll see when it shows up on

39:29

the shop. Going back to what Steven said about Shane.

39:32

One thing I've learned about him is his balking

39:34

points are impossible to figure out.

39:36

Didn't we talk about this last week? We did, but

39:39

it comes up a lot in the sense

39:41

of like, sometimes Shane will be watching a series

39:43

and he'll be like, I stopped watching that. And

39:45

I was like, oh, what happened? And he was just like... It's

39:48

really just like if it's keeping my interest.

39:50

And a lot of times I'm like, this ain't worth my time. And

39:53

that is one end of the spectrum. And then there's... Because

39:56

I've watched a lot of television and the only reason

39:58

I'm able to do that is... because I'm easy

40:01

to just cut out, just give

40:03

up on some of the things. But then there's your other end of the

40:05

spectrum, which is this lazy Acres thing where

40:07

you could go, they could have shitty produce, have

40:09

shitty coffee. Well, no, I didn't say that. And then you're like,

40:11

I think we're going to keep going here for some reason. Here's the thing,

40:14

I did buy a good coffee from them and I

40:16

bought a bad coffee from them. What is this? So,

40:18

I don't know where I fall on that. You're

40:21

like a wild card. It's impossible. I'm probing.

40:24

I'm probing. I'm gathering data. And

40:26

you not eating with the group at Benihana

40:29

is so you. It is uniquely

40:31

same. Everybody else is eating, I'm guessing, with you guys.

40:33

Yeah, uniquely same. You were like, you know what? I'm

40:36

out. I really

40:38

wanted a hot dog. People don't normally do

40:40

that. Or the famous Call

40:43

of Duty story, which actually our pop producer

40:45

Matt was here for. Shane just disappears

40:47

out of the game, doesn't text anybody

40:49

back. And then the next day I was like, hey, your internet

40:51

fall out? And he was like, no, I just didn't want to play anymore. Yeah.

40:55

We were in London and we were in rounds. Let's

40:57

go see a play. And you're like, nah, I'm going to

40:59

go watch a movie. I just honestly, the play

41:01

didn't seem fun. Which is fine. But

41:03

like, there's part of it is like, let's just hang out, you know?

41:06

He's like, no. But we weren't hanging out because

41:08

we were going to sit somewhere for three

41:10

hours and not beak. And I was like,

41:13

well, if I'm not going to hang out with you guys anyway, I'm going

41:15

to. That's, you know, that's a flawed

41:17

point. Also, that was my favorite

41:19

part of the trip. That makes

41:21

sense. That's such a flawed

41:24

piece of logic. You know, there's something to go

41:26

into a movie or to a play with like, like,

41:28

let's say you go to a play with Sarah, you're

41:30

not going to be like, well, we didn't hang out. You went to go

41:33

experience something together or a concert for that matter.

41:35

In my defense, the play seemed lame. And

41:38

my other my and I think my

41:40

logic is sound on this. We

41:42

were in London for work. We

41:44

were doing a VidCon thing there. Yeah.

41:48

Yeah. And I've never been in London

41:50

for work where I'm like relatively like we

41:53

did. I wasn't on vacation. No,

41:56

you guys were seeing a play that I had no

41:58

interest in. Sure. And I was like,

42:00

I'm going to seize this opportunity of not feeling pressured

42:03

to treat this like a vacation. And

42:06

I'm just going to walk around the city and listen to music

42:09

in a way that I probably would feel like it would

42:11

feel like a waste of time if I was on vacation.

42:14

But because we were there for work, I

42:16

just got to sort of vibe with

42:19

the city for a bit. It was slightly rainy.

42:21

I listened to music. I walked around. I

42:23

didn't intend to go see a movie until I walked up on a movie

42:25

theater and I was like, how do we go see a movie? This rules.

42:28

And it was incredible. It was a great night. And

42:30

if I went to see the play, I would have hated every

42:32

minute of it. I think the thing with Stephen was saying, though, is

42:34

that it's about like hanging out. Like so if you didn't

42:37

want to see the play, we could have wanted to go see something else

42:39

or you guys were crazy about

42:41

going to see that. I told you guys I don't really want

42:43

to see that. I was the one who

42:45

was I was down to play. But I've

42:47

also I also would have been down to do something else as

42:50

well. Yeah. I mean, I asked you guys if you

42:52

wanted to, but you were like, no, we want to see this play. And

42:54

I was like, all right. No, I honestly envy that you're able to

42:57

see something else. That you're able

42:59

to free yourself from the chains

43:01

of social norms and obligations. Thank

43:04

you. Yes. He definitely.

43:07

So it does will be on ghost

43:09

file shoots too. And he'll just like, I'm just gonna

43:11

I'm not gonna do that. I'm not

43:13

gonna do that. Hey, let's take a quick break

43:15

and then we'll come back. Okay.

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Here we are. We're back. Yes, we are

43:42

back. But yeah, we've gone. We sometimes

43:44

we'll go on ghost files trips and we'll do things as like do things

43:46

as

43:47

a

43:51

group.

43:56

Yeah. Oh, there was the one time we all were bowling

43:58

and I was like, no, I don't want to. Was the weirdest

44:01

thing I have ever seen I just what

44:03

it was I told that Mari that story and she

44:05

was like that is Odd. Oh, so what happened?

44:07

What happened? So we went we

44:10

were stuck in this one city. We weren't

44:12

stuck We were waiting for a layover that was

44:14

no weren't waiting No, we

44:17

I was annoyed because we booked our airfare

44:19

for like 5 p.m. Yeah, we were waiting for

44:21

our plane Yes. Yeah, we it was a

44:23

late flight We had just

44:25

shot the night before and we had

44:28

time to kill because our flight was super late And

44:30

the reason why I was late by the way is so that people

44:32

could actually sleep after the shoot Yes, but it was way

44:35

beyond that but it was like beyond it

44:37

was like why the fuck This

44:40

actually has no bearing on the story. I know it it

44:42

does because I was like I am NOT in the

44:44

mood to bowl Right now. I was

44:47

like we're stuck in this fucking town. I know

44:49

but no I want to be home I can't imagine

44:51

nobody was in the mood to bowl or

44:54

to you guys were like, let's all go bowling The

44:58

revisionist part that I was talking about so we

45:00

all then why did we go? Bowl

45:03

because it was either that or we just sit

45:05

in a car for five hours Like

45:08

because we have to check out at 12 they kicked out of

45:10

the hotel Yeah, we had a flight at 5 and we

45:12

were like, well, what are we gonna do? We could

45:14

eat lunch We have about five

45:16

hours to kill before this flight We can't stay in

45:18

our hotel and so we look up things

45:20

to do in this town and one of the only things they had

45:23

and one of the things that all The locals supposed to do

45:25

is like you should go to the bowling alley We're like I

45:27

guess and there were people that were like actually

45:29

vocal like be nice to go home

45:32

kind of thing but we couldn't so

45:34

we all went to this bowling alley and I

45:38

Bought a lane so that we could like play bowling

45:41

and everyone proceeds to start bowling

45:44

Shane is with us and he

45:46

stands like, you know what when there's a bowling

45:49

alley There's like the seats that are on like the ground

45:51

and you bowl and then there's like you go up a

45:53

little set of stairs And then you could like kind of just sit

45:55

like it like a bar area and watch people bowl the

45:58

entire crew bowls Shane instead

46:01

of just being like hey, I guess I'll bowl too stands

46:03

and watches us bowl for two hours. No,

46:06

I didn't do that. I I I

46:08

was drinking beer and I think I was You

46:12

I think I was looking at stuff on

46:14

my phone and I had my laptop out So I was

46:17

I was doing stuff. I wasn't what I didn't pay attention

46:19

to you guys bowling at all I know like

46:21

the entire crew is literally Like

46:24

five to ten feet away from him bowling and

46:26

he's just like standing up there next to

46:28

the nachos And we're just like you're sitting

46:30

I was in the standing watching you guys like

46:32

Michael Myers Yeah, but like okay

46:34

in the high seats and then making this weirder

46:36

than it was well cuz Lizzie That wasn't one was like

46:38

you're not gonna bowl and he was like no

46:41

and we were like, all right But

46:45

you see what I'm this is kind of the same yeah, no,

46:47

no, it's you you have a certain freedom I

46:50

have a hard time not just

46:53

Doing things cuz I feel obligated to

46:56

but you don't have that in in you almost

46:58

no I just really don't like bowling.

47:01

Yeah, I know but that's the point like

47:03

this So you took him to Highland Park Bowl

47:05

for the tourist Because

47:08

we needed to shoot a video well The thing is but like

47:10

even if you don't like bowling like I

47:13

don't particularly like bowling either But

47:15

it's just like well, we're here. The group is

47:17

here We might as well just do it like but

47:19

like I am not as strong on my convictions

47:21

of like things that if I don't Like it. I'm just not gonna do

47:24

it which actually though. I will say recently.

47:26

I think I'm done with golf I

47:28

just what damn I'm about to get

47:31

into it. No, Brian. It's too

47:33

much time to get out right? No,

47:35

you will see this I've this is like any actually

47:38

Because like you're saying and you have all your

47:40

brother place you can I know but

47:43

his brother's really good though So my brother's incredible. He's

47:45

actually almost a scratch golfer What

47:47

is that? Which means he could like go

47:49

on any golf course and hit par like

47:52

Oh across the board Oh, like he's

47:54

like I actually think if he would have Put

47:57

more energy into because he really didn't give a shit. He was just

47:59

naturally

49:57

Fuck

50:00

can you understand if that's how I feel about bowling?

50:03

Well, that's the point of getting I don't find it fun That's

50:05

the point of well the point I'm getting to is like because

50:07

I told my friends this recently Hey, I think I've done

50:10

golfing They're like do you can't do that come

50:12

similar reaction to yours not and in the

50:14

past. I would have been like hmm You're probably

50:16

right. I don't think I'm gonna do that. I haven't even gotten

50:18

into golfing yet, though I was wait you were you were

50:20

the one who I know I know I'm just like

50:23

now I hear that and I'm just kind of like you know what

50:26

no

50:26

and then they'll be like why and I my Reason

50:29

is I don't like it and then it's

50:31

kind of like hard for them to accept that but

50:34

I've watched him do it So I'm just like you

50:36

know what I could do I could just not

50:38

do something because I don't want to do it You

50:41

gotta you gotta feel good about Bailing

50:43

on stuff. I don't know about bad. See

50:45

that's what I like bailing I don't know if Matt

50:48

I agree with that like if I'm there I mean interest

50:50

wise or or yeah, or yeah Yeah,

50:54

but if I'm like if I'm there I'm gonna do it or

50:56

if like we're in a group setting where we're like we can't

50:58

Go anywhere else. I'm like alright Let's make the best

51:00

of the situation that we're in is my mindset

51:02

But if I have the opportunity to like control

51:05

the situation before I even get there That's

51:07

when I'm gonna start putting my foot down and be like I

51:10

don't want to go golfing I'm not gonna do it. It doesn't it's

51:12

it pisses me off It makes me yeah a

51:14

very frustrated person in the morning and I

51:16

don't like mornings to begin with I'm not a morning person I'm

51:19

a I've tried to change myself into

51:21

one but I can't I used to be somebody who Was

51:24

very regimented in only doing things I

51:26

wanted to do and I think I've

51:28

actually flipped because I was

51:31

a picky eater Nicely I was somebody

51:33

who didn't want to do stuff and then then people

51:35

like oh you should try skiing He's tried these and these are super

51:37

fun. And as I've like gotten older, I've I've

51:40

just become more of a

51:43

what do they call it? Not a punching bag a

51:45

rag doll or a mat doormat Yeah,

51:48

but I think actually that social pressure

51:50

weirdly for me has made me a better

51:53

human being So I don't know, you know

51:55

interesting what he's I think there's a balance to

51:57

it I was the kind of person that would say yes to every

51:59

thing and now I'm

52:02

kind of just like as I'm getting older I

52:04

figure it's more like controlling your

52:06

or conserving your energy I think Shane conserves

52:08

his energy better than I think I'm pretty enthusiastic

52:11

about most things in this life but I've also

52:13

picked things that I choose not to participate

52:16

in under any circumstance yeah

52:19

like you're not gonna catch me bowling anytime

52:21

that is clear that was like when I

52:24

I that's when I was like this dude is built

52:26

different like there are eight people bowling

52:28

and he's one of the eight he's like no I'm

52:31

gonna pull up my phone and I was like

52:33

that I in a million years I could never see myself

52:36

doing that but I don't have there's probably conditions

52:38

where I would be like you know what I'll

52:41

bowl but when it was

52:43

it was very circumstantial to the fact

52:45

that I was already annoyed that we were trapped

52:48

in this like that's a lit place

52:50

yeah and we had to check out of our

52:52

hotel at noon and our flight was until like 5 or 6

52:55

p.m. and I was like I am NOT in the mood to do anything

52:58

what's crazy is the alternative to with

53:00

like sit in the car like

53:02

they're really we can't understand

53:05

how much how little there was to do in this

53:07

place yeah I don't want to name the place but

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and we're back and we are back

53:51

it's time to talk about birthdays I'm always excited

53:53

for Stevens topics they always paint such

53:55

a rich tapestry well here's the thing I think

53:57

about my topic all week long oh

54:00

I'm mulling over. I take this podcast

54:02

very seriously. Good. That's good. No.

54:04

Yeah. And like, by the way, we

54:06

discussed how like there was a word where I wasn't

54:09

going to make this episode because

54:11

I was in Miami partying up last night. I

54:13

got in at 1 a.m. this morning and I actually

54:16

had today off. Today

54:18

was marked out of office for me. But he's here.

54:21

But I'm here because I care about the

54:23

pod. You care about pod watcher. And

54:26

I chose birthdays because my birthday when this comes

54:29

out will be in four days, November 10th. Well,

54:32

that's right. I have a lot to say about that. First

54:35

of all, I want to

54:37

rant a little bit. Oh

54:39

boy. Oh boy. It's

54:43

not even a rant. You know Famous Birthdays?

54:46

You know that website. Oh my God. I'm so

54:48

excited for what's about that. No, no. Like

54:50

so they kept emailing me the last

54:52

like 10 years like, when's your birthday? When's

54:54

your birthday? And actually I was like, screw

54:56

you guys. Go away. I don't want my

54:58

birthday publicized because it's public. You know, it's

55:01

sensitive information. I thought the same thing. I

55:03

thought that. My mom had grilled

55:05

me for years about like, make sure no one knows your birthday.

55:08

What? Yeah, it might be an Asian thing. I think

55:10

it is an Asian thing perhaps. Either way, they

55:13

put the wrong birth date on there. So I think like for a

55:15

long time, it was November 12th on Famous Birthdays.

55:17

But then because of that, I keep

55:20

getting birthday wishes on

55:22

the wrong day. You'll

55:24

have to email. Do you think they do that on purpose so that

55:26

you'll reach out? I think

55:28

so. I'm looking up right now. Well, and it's

55:31

really a bummer to get on the wrong

55:33

day. It's like, you know, it's like recognized for the wrong

55:35

award or something. I don't know. It's weird.

55:38

So I need to fix that on Famous Birthdays. It's

55:40

November 10th. I'm setting the record straight. Right now,

55:42

I was born on November 10th, 1990 at 3.33 a.m. Oh,

55:48

you know the time. It's changed. It's

55:50

November 10th now. Oh, it's correct now. Correct.

55:53

Somebody fixed it. Look at this funny little photo of you. That's

55:56

nice. Um, there's that. is

56:00

I wanted to ask you guys, do

56:02

you guys, are you a birthday

56:05

lover or hater? For your own

56:07

birthday. I personally

56:10

love my birthday

56:12

coming around not because of the celebration

56:14

of the birthday. Actually that's actually my least favorite

56:16

part. But I love that it's an excuse

56:19

to plan something to get all of my friends and

56:21

family together. See that right

56:24

there is something that

56:26

I don't have in me. It's

56:28

probably why I've hated putting something

56:31

in me. Yeah. I

56:33

don't like people celebrating me

56:36

around me. I don't want people to gather for

56:38

me. When I would, that's actually

56:40

the why it's an interesting thing for me

56:42

because last year for instance, I threw

56:44

a big house party for my birthday and I was like, this

56:46

is gonna be cool. I have a bunch of people, all my

56:49

friends and stuff will be here and my family and we could

56:51

all be in the same spot. And

56:53

when it came to the part of there being

56:55

a birthday cake, I always feel like I recoil

56:58

into my skin because then I'm reminded, oh yeah,

57:01

that's why everyone's here. It's because of my stupid

57:04

ass birthday. I

57:06

don't like that part. I wish I could just have the birthday

57:08

party without them even celebrating

57:11

me at all. I would love that.

57:13

I love other people's birthdays because it's not

57:15

about me. What are you pulling

57:17

up there? I'm pulling up picture

57:19

of the famous birthday's booth at VidCon that always

57:22

made me laugh. It just looks really good.

57:24

It looks like it's Barbie coated. Is that like a legit company?

57:27

Like are they making money? I'm not

57:29

sure. I guess ads. I don't know what they do.

57:32

Here's where

57:34

I'm at with why I hate my birthday.

57:37

And it's because I think it's because I'm a middle child.

57:40

And I think it's because there was one year that my

57:42

parents forgot my birthday. And ever

57:44

since then I was too traumatized

57:48

by people not remembering my

57:50

birthday that I was like, okay, you know what,

57:52

screw it. Even I'm not

57:54

gonna care about my birthday. Who cares

57:56

about it? It's not important to protect

57:59

myself. Talk to someone. What about that? I

58:01

have and it's been a lot of therapy. Okay,

58:03

well. But I'm trying

58:05

to figure out how to love my birthday

58:08

more. So if you guys have tips on that, you

58:10

know, leave them in the comments. I'm

58:12

curious because it is very hard. Like

58:14

it is a mental block for

58:16

me. Yeah. To like love

58:19

my birthday. And I want that though. I want

58:21

to need to. No, I want it. My

58:23

approach has been to treat

58:26

each year kind of as a toss up. Some

58:28

years I've had parties

58:31

where I invite like 50 people. Yeah.

58:35

Other years I've had parties where I invite like eight

58:37

people. Yeah. And then other years,

58:40

like this past year, we were kind of busy

58:42

in May. Sarah and I will

58:44

always go out to dinner for a nice birthday situation.

58:47

And then I'll be like, oh yeah, I should plan something

58:49

with everybody. And this month, earlier

58:52

this year, we were busy. And I was like, I'll do

58:54

it toward the end of the month. And then the end of the month came

58:56

up and I was like, nevermind.

58:59

Like, there's been, especially

59:02

the past few years with like the pandemic,

59:05

half the time I'm like, I don't need to do anything.

59:08

Yeah. Yeah.

59:10

You know, people who like will have like five birthdays, like

59:13

they all have birthday week. The

59:15

people who are really into their

59:17

own birthdays, it's

59:18

a little weird to me.

59:20

Yeah. I generally don't

59:22

like the attention. No, especially

59:24

when they're like into like the, you know, the whole thing

59:27

where you could use the, fuck

59:29

you, it's my birthday kind of thing to get people to do

59:31

things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

59:34

It's not for a ball. It's not for a ball stuff there. But even just like,

59:36

I think it also goes to this idea of celebrations.

59:38

Like I just don't celebrate my life enough. Like,

59:41

so like I honestly, like

59:43

I'm not going out like, you

59:45

know, anniversaries

59:47

for, you know, whatever. You brought for anniversaries

59:50

right here? I guess we do. I mean, there

59:52

was one year, like I didn't

59:54

do Valentine's very well and I

59:57

don't know. It doesn't like emotion. like

1:00:01

events celebrating my own life don't like move

1:00:03

me to plan

1:00:05

something but I want that I want

1:00:07

to care I'm

1:00:10

just got to dinner I go hard

1:00:12

on other people's birthdays I will say that

1:00:14

I like celebrating like for instance Mari's birthday

1:00:17

was this past weekend and I helped

1:00:19

organize like a slumber party like

1:00:22

so like not a slumber party but a slumber party didn't

1:00:24

like it

1:00:27

was my owner

1:00:29

friends and they came over and like pajamas

1:00:31

and we watched a movie and then I had

1:00:34

I took the popcorn machine from watcher and I made

1:00:36

popcorn for everybody and then candy you keep it at

1:00:38

home by the way just keep it at home you took the whole popcorn

1:00:40

machine I guess we've only used it here we want we've never

1:00:43

used it in this new office I mean I'll

1:00:45

keep it there until we want to figure back because I'm

1:00:47

not gonna lie I like it in the kitchen it's pretty sweet

1:00:49

yeah but I was there popping

1:00:52

I made an enormous batch of popcorn

1:00:54

for like 12 people tough machine to make a big

1:00:56

batch and I had to really work it yeah I just

1:00:58

hit there and work that was part of the issue why we haven't used

1:01:01

it the office much because I couldn't get my head around

1:01:03

you know it was weird though it was kind of nice

1:01:05

in the same way that I and this is

1:01:07

kind of goes back to when I don't like the attention on

1:01:09

me when it comes to my birthday like I've

1:01:11

had several birthdays now where I either am

1:01:13

the bartender for everybody have a role or

1:01:16

I am the person working the grill yeah and

1:01:18

for this particular case I was the person working

1:01:20

the popcorn machine man and I would say

1:01:22

they're working it like a grill like you know just people will

1:01:25

come by chat a little bit leave because

1:01:27

I also don't like chatting too much yeah

1:01:29

so I like what's that's insane and if that

1:01:31

can't be true that does not scan it depends it

1:01:33

depends if you can chat to yourself I

1:01:35

was gonna say I was saying the other week if you

1:01:38

if you divvy up I want someone to crunch

1:01:40

the numbers on these podcast episodes

1:01:42

I think 80% of them are you talking

1:01:45

the other 20% Stephen and I somewhere in there it's

1:01:50

probably true yeah there's

1:01:53

something about sit in this little room but

1:01:55

they are

1:01:58

saying I don't love chatting

1:01:59

that's

1:01:59

It depends, it depends what kind

1:02:02

of mood I'm in. That's fair. But

1:02:04

at like a party, I could either be like really chatty

1:02:06

or I could be like, I kinda wanna be a bartender

1:02:09

and then cat to nobody and just make drinks for everybody

1:02:11

all night. That sounds nice. Which is nice. But

1:02:14

I do like, you know, going hard for other people's birthdays.

1:02:17

Can I say one more thing about this? Yes.

1:02:20

And this is not even birthdays, but just like in

1:02:23

general. When people say thank you to me, I

1:02:26

realized over the weekend I was, somebody was

1:02:28

like, oh, thank you for doing that. And

1:02:30

I like instinctively I said, no, thank you.

1:02:33

No, you have to. And it like made

1:02:35

zero sense. I was like, wow, that was, I

1:02:39

had to just receive the thanks, but I had a hard

1:02:42

time receiving. You gotta rewire

1:02:44

that and you gotta change it too. You're

1:02:46

very welcome. I see. You're

1:02:49

very well though. You're very well though. You're very

1:02:51

well though. That's being passive aggressive, like you're almost like,

1:02:53

you didn't even appreciate the thank you. No,

1:02:56

well, if you're saying you are very welcome, that means

1:02:58

you appreciated the thank you quite a bit

1:03:01

without saying like, appreciate the thanks. Then

1:03:04

they're appreciating the appreciation. I've been saying something

1:03:06

lately. Is this okay?

1:03:08

I've been saying, thank

1:03:11

you, I received that. Like, like, no, it's like

1:03:14

certain, like, I

1:03:17

have received, like you're like, no, well, they say, they'll

1:03:19

say like, oh, like, Steven, you're like a really good

1:03:21

friend or something. Like, look at that. Thank you, I have received

1:03:23

that. You said, thank you, I received that. I

1:03:25

think my phone, my phone would auto

1:03:27

trigger Siri would be like, are you okay? Okay,

1:03:30

maybe I should stop saying that. It's because it's really hard for me

1:03:32

to receive those kinds of words. If I said thank

1:03:34

you to somebody and they said, thank you, I've received that,

1:03:37

I would run. Because I would think the next

1:03:39

thing that's about to happen is I'm gonna get murdered.

1:03:41

It's a Terminator. Yeah. He

1:03:44

says, is that not, did people say that?

1:03:46

Nah, it could back me up here. No one says, no one. No

1:03:48

one really says I received that. No one responds, like

1:03:50

they're responding to a business email. Oh God, help

1:03:53

me out. Okay, it's the same thing that I appreciate

1:03:55

that, yeah, yeah. Well, let me ask you this, Steven, because

1:03:57

this is actually probably a similar vein. How

1:03:59

do you do? with compliments. No,

1:04:01

that's what I'm saying. I can't, I'm like,

1:04:04

I'm terrible at receiving compliments too. It's like kryptonite

1:04:07

to me, which is also consequently why I don't

1:04:09

like people celebrating me on my birthday.

1:04:11

Yeah. Even at my own wedding, there was a part of

1:04:13

me that was like, this is a bit much. Yeah.

1:04:16

Like I don't, too many people congratulating

1:04:19

me. It's like not, I hate it. But

1:04:23

as a middle child,

1:04:24

I both hate attention

1:04:26

and desperately seek it out. We

1:04:29

can't be getting into this with five minutes

1:04:31

left in the podcast. We can do it next time. Mari

1:04:33

told me. I'll do that on my next topic, middle

1:04:35

children. She said something to me that helped

1:04:37

me with receiving compliments in that.

1:04:40

Say thank you. You say, well, thank you.

1:04:42

That's how you do it. But also like,

1:04:44

if you don't, like if

1:04:46

someone's like, oh, I love your hair

1:04:48

today. And you're like, oh, it's not that big of a deal. It's like,

1:04:50

or it's like, it's not that nice. You're basically

1:04:53

invalidating their opinion. Yeah. It's very rude. And

1:04:55

making it kind of rude. Yeah. So by saying

1:04:57

thank you, you're doing the nice thing. Oh, thank you. Yeah.

1:04:59

Like you respect their opinion. And ever since she

1:05:01

told me that my brain has been rewired for

1:05:04

accepting compliments, I still don't like them when

1:05:06

I'm able to accept them now because I understand

1:05:08

what's going on. Yeah. I accept

1:05:10

every compliment someone gives me.

1:05:12

I know. That

1:05:14

wasn't a compliment. No, you're pretty good

1:05:21

at accepting compliments. Like your mind is

1:05:23

suited for that. You know, the compliments

1:05:25

are nice. You're

1:05:28

probably you. Oh, Ryan's up there too.

1:05:30

You both are really good about reminding our

1:05:33

team that they're well deserved

1:05:35

of praise. And I just don't like when they give it

1:05:37

back to me. Yes. Yes. I

1:05:39

hate it. Well, you're not as deserving. Yeah.

1:05:43

And I, and that's kind of what's at the crux of it. No,

1:05:45

no, no, you're very deserving. Yeah. It's

1:05:48

more like, please stop acknowledging me

1:05:50

as a human, which I

1:05:52

guess to close out birthdays too, I

1:05:54

think that's also this may not, this may seem like a crazy

1:05:57

thought that's not even linked, but it's also why I like Christmas

1:05:59

so much. Which is every

1:06:01

we're celebrating everybody exactly celebration

1:06:05

for well not everybody Christians

1:06:08

Just Christians Well everybody

1:06:11

that's partaking at the look man Everybody

1:06:14

that's particularly Partaking in Christmas

1:06:16

like for instance if you're giving out gifts at

1:06:18

the tree No one's like honed in

1:06:20

on you while you're opening a present like do

1:06:22

you like it? Everyone's opening presents So it's just oh

1:06:24

you don't go around we do go around and

1:06:26

take turns But it's not as much pressure as

1:06:29

one gift after another that I ever tell you about what

1:06:31

I asked for for my like fourth Fourth

1:06:34

grade Christmas present. I'd love to know that

1:06:36

one with this We can unpack

1:06:38

this letter do okay you say what

1:06:40

it is and then we'll talk about it next time We'll

1:06:43

see if I can restrain from asking at least a couple

1:06:45

questions. Okay. I asked for an algebra

1:06:47

textbook Okay, all

1:06:49

right now. I it was received

1:06:53

It was received That's how he

1:06:55

accepts now. Did you? Well

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