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Welcome to a Slob Chem's Clean the podcast.
0:02
I am Dani K. White. I
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share my personal de-slobification process. As I
0:06
figure out ways to keep my own
0:08
home under control, I share
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the truth about cleaning and organizing strategies
0:12
that actually work in real life for
0:14
real people, people who don't
0:16
love cleaning and organizing. Thanks for
0:19
joining me today. This is podcast
0:21
number 412, and
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I'm calling it the messy middle is real,
0:26
but it doesn't actually have to be messy. So
0:29
the messy middle is one of
0:31
those terms that you
0:33
hear thrown about. I'm sure it was coined or
0:36
used by a lot of different people. I did
0:38
look it up and a guy
0:40
named Scott Belsky wrote a book called the
0:42
messy middle. I believe from
0:44
reading the description of it that it
0:46
is more about just the
0:49
messiness along the way of getting from
0:51
point A to point B of just
0:53
different things in life, success, whatever. So
0:57
just to be clear, I
0:59
preach and teach against the messy middle, right?
1:02
My claim to fame, which isn't real fame, but you
1:04
know what I mean, is that
1:08
I created the no mess decluttering process. Long
1:11
before I ever called it the no mess
1:13
decluttering process, I came
1:15
up with a way to make
1:18
progress and only progress as
1:21
I declutter, to never get
1:24
myself in a situation where I'm
1:26
worse off than I
1:28
was before I got started decluttering. And it was
1:30
because I had the issue of every
1:32
time I tried to declutter, I ended up making a bigger
1:34
mess. And that's a lot of people's issues. Well, how I
1:36
solved it for myself turns out it works for a lot
1:38
of other people too. So that's my five step process that
1:41
helps me make progress and only progress. I
1:43
don't pull everything out. I don't make piles.
1:45
I don't leave things for later, blah, blah,
1:47
blah. Y'all know about that. If you've ever
1:49
been around here, right? But
1:52
I'm talking specifically about
1:54
the messy middle and
1:57
what that means. How
1:59
is that? real even though we're using
2:02
the no mess process. Okay, it doesn't actually
2:04
have to be messy as far as physically
2:06
messy, but it is a real thing
2:10
to get to a point in
2:12
the middle of what you're seeing
2:14
as a project and
2:18
think of it as
2:21
the hard part that you have to
2:23
trudge through and you feel like you're
2:25
just trudging through the
2:29
mud. Okay, well the first
2:31
thing I want to say is this
2:33
is a lot of times, I
2:35
mean this has a lot to do with one of the things that
2:37
I teach which is your house is not
2:39
a project. I teach
2:41
that your house is not a project because I
2:43
had to learn that my house is not a
2:45
project. One of the biggest
2:48
realizations that I had for myself as
2:50
I worked on my home was that
2:53
I had been treating my house like
2:55
a project because I tend
2:57
to be really good at projects.
2:59
I like to plan them, execute
3:03
them, finish them, and
3:06
step away from them. I
3:08
like things that have that
3:10
big planning, that big shebang
3:13
project thing. And
3:16
yet I would look at
3:18
my house, think my house is a disaster, I'm going
3:20
to tackle it the way that I know how to
3:22
tackle things which is tackling it like a project. And
3:25
so I would do that
3:28
in my house, I would clean like
3:31
crazy and wear
3:33
myself out, clean it from top to bottom,
3:36
set aside a weekend or a
3:38
week or whatever with nothing else to do and then
3:41
be so
3:43
proud of myself that I would step back
3:45
and go, okay, I'm done with that now.
3:48
And the next time I thought about my house,
3:51
it was back to being a disaster because my
3:54
house is not a project. It is
3:56
an ongoing series of tasks and things
3:58
that have to be done consistently. So
4:02
the messy middle is the middle of
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the project where you're just trying to
4:06
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4:08
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so the reason that I'm thinking about
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this is a post
5:08
on Instagram that my
5:11
friends at the Handmade Home had
5:14
posted. So the Handmade Home, they have a
5:16
great Instagram account, they have a blog and
5:18
all that. They are interior
5:20
designers like they actually do people's
5:24
homes for them, right? And they do
5:26
this beautiful stuff. But she had
5:28
posted something and I thought this was really interesting.
5:30
She said a doctor once asked me during
5:33
an appointment when she figured out what I do
5:35
for a living if I watched a lot of
5:37
design shows on HGTV. When I
5:39
said no, she laughed and said of
5:41
course you don't. I don't even know why I
5:43
asked you that. That's like someone asking me if I
5:45
watch Grey's Anatomy and we both had
5:48
a nice borderline hysterical laugh.
5:50
This little story pretty much sums it
5:52
up for us. We've lived
5:54
in a world of move that bus for some
5:56
time now. Entranced by
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sparkle transition. and scripted reality
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been brainwashed when it comes to all
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things home. We're here to tell you that if
6:07
you're a fan, that's so great, but
6:10
that's not really how it goes. It
6:12
can be a red flag for us when we
6:14
show up for an initial design meeting and someone
6:16
is donning a Magnolia hat. Renovations
6:19
are never easy. They're
6:21
actually a mix of
6:23
design, budgets, organization, communication,
6:25
unpredictable situations, and lots
6:27
of psychology. We want
6:30
to help you move through it smoothly, and that's
6:32
our role from beginning to end. We
6:34
launched a series called Things Your Designer Wants
6:36
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6:38
ago. Today, we thought it would be good
6:41
to highlight it again for anyone ready to
6:43
dive into a renovation of their own. We're
6:45
covering everything from that initial meeting to the
6:47
finishing touches. We thought it might help bring
6:49
a little awareness to the process and possibly
6:51
help anyone avoid a few of the pitfalls
6:53
that come with working with various professionals.
6:56
Okay, so she's
6:59
talking about design, and they make gorgeous
7:02
designs, but that's
7:04
what she's talking about, and it's basically
7:07
how I feel about a lot
7:10
of your organizing
7:12
shows, decluttering shows, okay? Now here, I
7:15
just want to be clear. I'm not
7:17
saying there's anything wrong with those. I'm
7:20
just saying that
7:23
while they are inspiring and while they
7:25
can be very helpful in learning things
7:27
and learning tips and all of that,
7:31
we have to guard against
7:34
and realize that the
7:36
30-minute show that we're
7:38
watching or, you know, an
7:40
hour show or whatever is not
7:45
reality. It's
7:47
showing pieces of reality along the
7:49
way, but it's not
7:51
reality. I'm not even going to get into
7:55
whether it's real or not. Let's say it
7:57
is Completely real, And we really
7:59
do. You from total disaster to
8:02
wow everything is actually gone and
8:04
to cluttered and beautiful and done.
8:07
Even if the whole and even
8:09
if it is actual before pictures
8:11
and actual after pictures and everything
8:13
is true. Still, just
8:16
the fact that it has been boiled
8:18
down. To Thirty Minutes of
8:20
Clips. Which is probably what. Twenty
8:22
One Twenty two minutes with commercials
8:24
of Clips. As a little flash
8:26
of this, a little flash of
8:28
that. I mean, To.
8:30
A very small amateur degrees something
8:32
on my youtube videos when I
8:34
so Decluttering project. I
8:37
can't So you everything. Because.
8:40
It would be so boring, right? and I
8:42
so you a lot. My son has to
8:45
be both If. So.
8:48
It. Has to be cut
8:50
dion. And so remembering
8:53
that when I'm seeing that when
8:55
I'm seeing their whoosh Whoosh between.
8:57
This is what it looks like
8:59
before and this is what it
9:02
looks like now something in my
9:04
brain. I have to fight against
9:06
their. Tendency. To
9:08
think that it's that easy. As
9:10
easy as it looks, as fast
9:13
as it looks to be, and
9:15
I have to acknowledge that there
9:17
is a whole lot of middle
9:19
in there that I am not
9:22
saying. Even if
9:24
I'm seeing the process, there's a whole
9:26
lot. So I do. Oh, I.
9:28
Think this year without five
9:30
one. Hour better sessions on you
9:33
tube. And. People.
9:36
Love. These not not gonna say
9:38
they love. I'm like they get
9:40
millions of views but like my
9:42
real core people love these one
9:44
hour. Better sessions. And.
9:47
The reason that we do when our
9:50
better. Is so
9:52
that you're seeing what actually happens
9:54
and an hour now it's petty
9:56
own. We try to get them
9:58
down to. You know twenty
10:00
twenty five minutes. So about half of the
10:02
time as out of there but I'm trying
10:04
to so a very realistic. You actually do
10:07
see what it looks like at the beginning
10:09
of our and you actually do see what
10:11
it looks like at the end of the
10:13
our and you see what's happening and between
10:15
with you know bits and pieces cut out
10:17
here and there. But my
10:19
goal is free to see. This is
10:21
actually. What? Happens in an
10:23
hour as opposed to. You're
10:26
watching an hour. That
10:29
is. Thirty. Hours.
10:32
Of work and maybe we've never
10:34
actually put out there How many.
10:36
Hours were spent. To. Make
10:38
this thing that looks like it took an
10:41
hour and A because we all know. I
10:43
mean, you were smart enough. We know that
10:45
this is taking longer than what we're seeing
10:47
and yet. It. Does
10:49
something in our brain when we just
10:51
don't have to see and we don't
10:53
have to? Go through all
10:55
the time that it's actually. Taking
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my. Kids the thing. The
11:02
real messy metal is the distance between
11:04
starting a project and finishing a project.
11:06
But your house is not a project.
11:08
so what is it In the middle
11:10
of all this he is. The
11:13
distance between. Where
11:15
I am. And. Where I.
11:18
Want to be the reason that
11:20
I'm working? That means
11:22
there's a whole lot of messy middle and
11:24
the vast majority of the worst that you're
11:27
doing. Can in up feeling
11:29
like the messy middle. And.
11:31
Conceal defeating. If.
11:33
We don't look at it in the correct way
11:35
and came. It. Is hard enough?
11:39
It. Is hard enough. So let's. Look.
11:41
At this and say where am I letting
11:43
this feel like the messy mint middle where
11:45
it's actually not? Or how can I change
11:47
the way that I look at this so
11:49
that it doesn't. Feel like
11:52
the messy middle and make me want
11:54
to give that paints. So we start
11:56
a project. Any. Time that you
11:58
start nine And no, I'm saying price. That can your
12:00
happen on a project but. A decluttering
12:02
project. As a real thing we start
12:04
decluttering project. We say I'm going to
12:06
declutter my kids and I'm going to
12:09
declutter my entry way for visibility role
12:11
which I am really lot rights I'm
12:13
going to. Declutter that self.
12:15
That drawer, that. Closet?
12:18
Whatever. A
12:20
lotta times not always been a la
12:22
times. We start with. Excitement Like
12:24
have signed the going to get the
12:27
span of It's time. It's time. I've
12:29
got to do this. And
12:31
we make progress. But
12:34
at the beginning. When
12:36
I actually anywhere near being done right.
12:39
And maybe we have to step away.
12:41
And as long as you are following
12:44
the know mess decluttering process, you can
12:46
step away. and it's only better. But
12:49
it's it's still not done, which is usually
12:51
not going to be. Then.
12:55
You have to get going again. So.
12:57
It is that distance between. We started
13:00
this project, we made some progress with
13:02
follow the know mess decluttering process and
13:04
so this space is better than it
13:06
was when I started and yet I
13:08
had to stop. And.
13:11
Now I am in the messy middle
13:13
where I'm like as. I
13:16
spent an hour on that. Made a
13:18
lot of progress, But. There's
13:20
still a lot to do. So
13:23
often the messy middle is being willing
13:25
to get started again. Being
13:27
willing to go back to
13:30
that space. And
13:32
this time I don't have the same
13:34
amount of excitement. This time I'm not.
13:37
Wearing. To go this, I'm I'm a whole lot
13:39
more realistic as I know what I got done in
13:41
an hour and I know that I thought I was
13:43
gonna have three hours last time and I only have
13:45
an hour or whatever. but I am going to keep
13:48
going Now I'm faced with the reality that this isn't
13:50
gonna be instance. So getting started
13:52
again isn't as exciting as it was
13:54
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13:56
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I got through the first three
17:17
steps which are all non-emotional
17:19
trash, easy stuff, and debt
17:21
donations. They're all non-emotions. They're
17:23
all decision-free. And now
17:25
I'm into step four where
17:28
I'm having to go through and ask the decluttering
17:30
questions. And the decluttering questions make the process a
17:32
lot easier than other ways that I used to
17:35
declutter. Decluttering questions being if I needed this item,
17:37
where would I look for it first, take it
17:39
there now, and then if I don't have
17:41
an answer to that, if I needed this item, would it ever occur
17:43
to me that I already had one, I need to put it in
17:45
the donate box, right? So but those
17:48
decluttering questions in step four where I'm
17:50
going one item at a time going
17:54
through figuring out where it's supposed
17:56
to go according to where I would look for
17:58
it first can feel like I'm trudging
18:00
through mud. It can feel like,
18:03
okay, this is going so slow.
18:05
One item at a time.
18:08
Wouldn't it be better for
18:10
me to just pile everything up for me to
18:12
just make sort things into piles? We don't do
18:15
that. I don't do that. Because
18:17
I know
18:19
that that's the
18:22
real messy middle. That's the
18:24
actual physical stuck
18:27
messy middle that I used to get myself into all
18:29
the time because I would pull everything out of a
18:31
space. The energy would be
18:33
gone. And I was left
18:35
with all these piles of things
18:38
now out, straight across
18:40
the hallway or whatever. So
18:42
that is where I used to be.
18:45
And now I
18:48
know that was
18:50
the real messy middle. This still feels like
18:52
the messy middle because
18:54
it's like, oh, I gotta get started
18:56
again. But it's not the
18:59
messy middle compared to what the messy
19:01
middle used to be. Okay, so it's
19:03
remembering I am not in
19:05
the situation that I used to always be in.
19:07
I am not experiencing
19:09
the thing that used to make
19:11
me want to not declutter. That's
19:14
not happening anymore. That's not
19:16
happening anymore. I am doing
19:18
the no mess process. So even though I feel like I'm
19:20
in the messy middle, I can shake my head and go,
19:22
oh, there's no mess.
19:25
I'm in the middle of doing this. But
19:29
there's no mess. This
19:31
is different than
19:33
it used to be. I am
19:35
not in what used to feel
19:37
inevitable as part of the process
19:39
of, oh, my goodness, everything is spread out.
19:41
I'm not doing that anymore. It is different.
19:44
Okay, every time I will
19:47
take the moment to acknowledge that,
19:50
realize it, appreciate
19:52
it, it helps
19:54
me be willing to get
19:57
started that second time to keep
19:59
going. the next time I'm doing
20:01
something. Okay? So
20:05
the getting started again, the keeping
20:07
on going is required. And
20:10
that is easier because I can look and say,
20:13
it could be so much worse. The
20:15
only thing I'm having to do here is
20:18
get myself to get going again. And
20:21
keep making progress. As opposed
20:23
to now I have to get
20:25
myself to get going and deal
20:27
with all these things that I have pulled out
20:29
of this space, okay? It
20:32
can feel like the messy middle when
20:34
you feel like you're never getting to the
20:36
more hidden spaces. I know I hear this
20:38
from some people a lot. You
20:40
know, they'll say, they're following the visibility rule
20:43
and they see the value in
20:46
the visibility rule. Their living spaces
20:48
are now decluttered and under control.
20:51
And they'll say, but I'm never getting to the more
20:53
hidden spaces. When am I gonna get to the rest
20:55
of my house? I
20:57
think a lot of times for
21:00
me in those situations, I know what
21:03
you're saying and I experienced the
21:05
same thing. But I
21:07
remind myself of
21:09
the impact that
21:13
the work that I have done so far has
21:16
had on my actual ability to live
21:18
my life in my house. I
21:21
remind myself that
21:24
I'm able to do this and
21:26
I should have people over. I'm able
21:28
to do the things that I used to
21:30
not be able to do because
21:33
none of
21:35
the spaces in my house were under
21:37
control, right? And then I
21:40
remind myself that, oh, I can take a
21:42
chunk of time and
21:45
tackle one of these spaces that
21:48
are, you know, okay? So
21:50
basically my house is under control. I've
21:53
got a Saturday. I didn't realize
21:55
I wasn't gonna have anything going on this Saturday. So
21:57
I am going to go in and I'm gonna.
22:00
The tackle one of these hidden spaces
22:02
that I'm gonna do it with the
22:04
know mess declaring process so that. I
22:06
don't end up with a. Messy.
22:09
Middle. right? I don't end
22:11
up with a physical mess created
22:13
by this and that knowing that
22:15
oh okay my house is under
22:18
control, I can still have people
22:20
over, I can live my life
22:22
and and now I'm making even
22:24
more progress by going into you
22:26
know this this place that I'm
22:28
gonna now tackle to declutter and
22:30
were hidden space knowing that. the
22:33
starts to to make me realize
22:35
oh. Oh, it's worth
22:38
it. It's worth it to have followed
22:40
the visibility rural. It is a reminder
22:42
that in their midst of the decluttering
22:44
process. Even. Though I'm not
22:47
done. Even though I'm not done
22:49
decluttering my house, I guess I should
22:51
just say this and be done with podcast. But like
22:53
there is no done right like as long as you're
22:55
living. Especially. For those
22:58
of us history with clutter but as long as
23:00
are living you will always be decluttering people. His
23:02
houses are to stay consistently clutter free. Are
23:05
consistently decluttering right of it. So.
23:09
I. Am able to look at
23:11
things. And
23:14
appreciate. That.
23:17
The messy middle really isn't a
23:19
saying because. As. I'm
23:21
still working on my house. Because.
23:24
The visibility role was when I followed from
23:27
the beginning. I'm able
23:29
to. Just continue functioning better and
23:31
better and better in my house. You know
23:33
where before my whole house is a disaster
23:35
and I was like oh my goodness, I've
23:37
got to declutter. I'm going to go declutter.
23:39
In the garage. First, in that back
23:41
corner where a car couldn't even park
23:43
anyway, even if it was simply declutter,
23:46
Okay, I did all that and I worked. And
23:48
I worked In. I worked. And I also
23:50
wasn't following. The know must process cause I hadn't come up
23:52
with it yet right? And so
23:54
I would work. and work. and work. and
23:57
then had nothing to show for it. Will
23:59
that. Like a big messy middle
24:01
for me because it was so defeating.
24:03
and I think a lot of the
24:05
times the messy middle is the part
24:07
where you feel defeated in the middle
24:10
of the project and so the key
24:12
is to keep reminding yourself how far
24:14
you've come. This as big a big
24:16
part of the reason why Before pictures.
24:19
And. Better pictures are
24:21
so powerful. Have.
24:23
A minute of folder on your phone.
24:26
Try. To make sure they're nowhere near the ones that your
24:28
mother not going to be thrown through looking at the
24:30
kids right? But haven't been a folder
24:32
where you can go. Oh
24:35
my goodness. So much city. Who am
24:37
I? What am I ever going be
24:39
done? Go back and look at how
24:41
far you can swipe back and forth.
24:43
Look at the time stamps. Oh that's
24:45
right on. January Thirteenth.
24:47
A Thursday, January thirty fourth, which
24:49
is not even a date. But
24:51
anyway. But on January Thirteenth, I
24:53
worked in there for twenty seven
24:55
minutes and oh wow, I made
24:57
a big impact. Okay,
24:59
yes, okay, I'm inspired. It doesn't feel
25:02
defeating any more to be in the
25:04
middle. It makes me think, oh, I
25:06
could spend twenty eight minutes today, make
25:09
even more progress and that how far
25:11
can I get a of an appliance
25:13
so those before and better pictures or
25:16
teeth. But it's also openly about redefining
25:18
that goal right, making that goal better,
25:20
making that goal less acknowledging that I
25:23
will be decluttering for ever. There.
25:25
Is no. I'm. Gonna do this
25:27
and I'm going to be done. It's gonna
25:29
be once and for all of a list
25:31
as get that out of our mind and
25:33
say I'm just gonna keep on decluttering and
25:35
knowing that it's gonna keep on going forever.
25:37
I'm always amazed when. You
25:40
know, one of the comments that I
25:42
get from people a lot is that
25:44
it actually changed things for them. And
25:48
help them be able to start making
25:50
real progress when they realized. That.
25:52
It was never going to be over. Because. the problem
25:55
is when you think it's a project and
25:57
when you think it's he there's an end
25:59
date of sinners line, then
26:02
you finish the project
26:05
and then clutter reappears and you feel like, well, what
26:07
was the point? But there was
26:09
so much point in all that you've done. But when
26:11
you realize it's an ongoing thing for the rest
26:13
of my life and the more I declutter now,
26:15
the less I have to declutter later, then
26:18
when new clutter reappears, it doesn't feel
26:20
like a defeat. Instead, it is
26:23
just that, oh yeah, well, you know, I just
26:25
got to keep decluttering. I keep on decluttering. I
26:27
just keep on getting rid of stuff and that's
26:29
how I keep my house from going back to
26:31
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get through the messy middle or diminish
27:28
the messy middle or view
27:30
it as a different way? Well, it's to not
27:33
view your house as a project. It's
27:35
to follow the visibility rule so that you
27:37
are experiencing the impact of what you have
27:39
already done and it's making your life better
27:42
and easier so that as
27:44
you keep going, you're
27:46
like, okay, well, I've already made my life better
27:49
and easier. That means that the
27:51
more I do, the better and easier my
27:53
life is going to continue to get right
27:56
or redefine the goal to be less
27:58
and better as opposed to. Other
28:01
strategies are. To
28:04
accept that decluttering regret. Is.
28:06
A thing. And it's
28:08
okay. Air on
28:10
the side of decluttering regret.
28:13
This is hard for those
28:15
who really, really. See.
28:18
You're. Needing.
28:20
Something that. They
28:22
have already declared or a. Fear that they
28:24
are going to end up needing something.
28:27
And. Therefore, then it went to
28:29
declutter. I get that like this was me
28:31
to right? I mean us or is a
28:33
while. I mean I. I didn't need such
28:36
and such until all the sudden and two
28:38
weeks after I declared at that's when I
28:40
needed at okay. But the reality is you
28:42
might have needed is another time and you
28:44
just didn't know that you had it and
28:46
so you'd gone out and bought another one
28:48
anyway, right? Like that's probably more likely. It's
28:50
not that you did not ever need it,
28:52
it's that's didn't even know you had it.
28:54
So. All. Those other times you
28:56
were going out and buying another one which meant you
28:58
were bringing more and more and more into your house
29:00
was getting harder to control in a way. That's another
29:02
speech for another time. Accepting
29:05
that regret is a thing. That
29:08
people whose houses are
29:10
consistently. Clutter free. Choose.
29:13
To live with regret.
29:16
Instead. Of clutter. That
29:18
is often the choice. Clutter.
29:22
Or. Potential regret.
29:25
I would rather and this is so hard
29:27
to say but it has become the trees
29:29
for me. I would prefer. To.
29:33
Get. Rid of something. That is
29:35
clutter meaning it does not have a place
29:37
in my home. Were. Actually
29:40
know where it is and
29:42
can handle it. Can.
29:44
Is it? It's over my clutter threshold?
29:46
I would prefer to get rid of
29:48
it. And know as I'm
29:50
getting rid of it that I may
29:52
regret this. And. Yet.
29:55
I would prefer. Regret.
29:59
Over. Having. Fun thing in my
30:01
house! That's. Consistently getting
30:03
out of control. And. Definitely
30:06
making my house harder to live
30:08
in. It's definitely making my life
30:10
harder to live. It's
30:13
definitely. A bad
30:15
thing if it stays in my house and it's
30:17
clutter. And I'm willing to
30:19
take the risk that I'm gonna regret getting rid
30:21
of it. Because. That is
30:24
just a maybe. But
30:26
it staying in my house is a definite.
30:28
It's making my life harder to live because
30:30
I don't have a place for it. Time.
30:34
So accepting that regret. Is
30:37
a thing. And. It's okay, right?
30:40
Accepting that. There.
30:42
Is no end. And here's the thing to. In
30:45
which has with a minute ago. But it's
30:47
there's no Ends. There is no
30:49
middle. Get. Them. You
30:52
can't have a messy middle. If
30:55
there is no and we
30:57
are celebrating progress all along
31:00
the way, Progress and Only
31:02
progress when you really wrap
31:04
your mind around that way
31:07
of decluttering. It is so
31:09
powerful and so encouraging. So
31:12
focus on how much easier
31:14
it is to live. With
31:17
law. Every step
31:19
along the way as you get rid
31:21
of anything you have less. With.
31:24
Every I'd unless. Your
31:26
house is a little easier to maintain. Your
31:29
house is a little easier to keep. Under control.
31:32
There. Is less for you to
31:34
have to clean and deal
31:36
with and rearrange and manage
31:38
and. Blob of Law. That.
31:41
Means you're experiencing success all
31:44
along the way. The.
31:46
Focusing on it being easier
31:48
to live with Last means
31:50
that. Everything. That leaves
31:52
it gets easier and easier and
31:54
easier. And. if i'm considering that
31:57
to be my success the middle doesn't feel
31:59
as mess And most of
32:01
all, I think it's just
32:03
really important to remember that difference
32:06
between decluttering and organizing. Decluttering
32:09
and organizing are not the same thing,
32:11
and so many times on the big
32:13
wow, zowie, before and
32:15
after, whoosh, whoosh, photos and videos
32:17
and stuff on shows,
32:21
there tend to be elaborate organizing systems
32:23
and a lot of those types of
32:25
things. And
32:27
yet, I've
32:29
had elaborate organizing systems in the
32:31
past, but organizing is problem solving.
32:33
It can be overwhelming. It can also
32:36
be over my clutter threshold to
32:38
maintain it. So,
32:40
accepting that my goal here is to
32:43
declutter. It is going to have a
32:45
bigger impact on my home to get
32:47
rid of stuff than it is
32:49
to come up with a fancy
32:51
system. Okay? So,
32:55
my goal here is not necessarily
32:58
an amazing after photo that
33:00
makes everybody go, wow, that should be in
33:02
a magazine. My goal is to
33:05
declutter and to acknowledge
33:07
that decluttering is incredibly powerful in achieving
33:10
the home that I want anyway. If
33:13
I'm ever going to get to that after photo, I
33:16
have to declutter anyway. And
33:19
maybe you'll be like me and you'll just declutter and
33:22
you'll realize, yeah, I'm actually good with this. I actually
33:24
like it like this. This is great. Okay.
33:27
So, the messy middle is real, but
33:30
it doesn't have to be like you thought. I
33:33
hope that was helpful. I will talk
33:35
to you all next week.
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