If you find yourself asking, 'Where have all our leaders gone?' then this conversation is worth a listen. Here, Rick Hill chats to David Thompson from the Council of Congregational Life and Witness and Christine Craig, elder elect in Kilbride Presbyterian and together they discuss themes like personally approaching people to serve, developing a leadership pipeline, and helping younger leaders to grow. Much of David’s input offers a big picture view of volunteering in church service at this time, while Christine shares some more personal insights of what this has looked like both in her life and in her congregation. A PCI resource called ‘Opening up to God’ is also pointed to towards the end that might be helpful to Kirk Sessions in the coming months.