Sharing stories from his past, poet, writer and presenter, Ian McMillan explores what kickstarted his life in writing. He teaches me about The Elusive Trout and how he uses parameters and daily rituals to keep honing his skills as a wordsmith. Ian steps into Poetry Corner to read The Computer’s First Christmas Card by Edwin Morgan and I follow suit with my own nonsense poem inspired by Andy Kaufman.

Chat recorded in March 2020